Why Southgate's Tactics Don't Work
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00:00
00:40 Problem With Build-up
02:30 No Runs in Behind
05:27 How England Will be Dangerous
07:00 How Serbia Dominated the 2nd Half
So what this meant that England lacked balance. They chose to use players they thought they were the best and never considered whether they had the same profiles or not
Yes - trying to hope that individual skill somehow saves the day. What Mark Goldbridge would term “Moments FC”.
Yea I mean looking at the starting 11 it's incredibly star studded. But it's as if a chef dumped all the delicious foods he could think of into a stew and expected it to taste good
Or the manager is picking a system that doesn't match the player profiles? Why do we have to be so risk averse and stick long balls up to kane when you've got bellingham foden, kane and saka as the attacking four.
Back to pickford from a corner, up to kane to win a header against the tallest defensive line in the tournament.
That’s Southgate for you. Reminds me of the days under Sven Goran Eriksen. He wasn’t a bad manager but we kept on trying to just cram all the best players into the starting lineup and just hope for the best. It’s why we kept playing Scholes on the left. The result was just going long into Crouch or Rooney and hoping the ball doesn’t rebound back to us which it always did. I see shades of that in how Southgate keeps going long into Kane and it’s like stepping into a Time Machine.
Works for The Real Madrid
Southgate masterclass
😂
Disasterclass
masterclass in Clownery
😂 I'm not English and i could see how gates tactics/decisions are pure mastercunts
It’s why I named my Euros Fantasy team “sOUThgate”, really get the point across
England parked the bus after 20 minutes. Exactly the reason they lost the final to Italy last time. Southgate tactics is limited.
Not after 20 mins, more for the duration of the second half.
But otherwise yes, been saying the same thing on every forum. GS is weak and learned nothing after throwing away the Euros
No one wants to say it but Watkins is way better for this set than Kane. He's a lot more traditional in his striker playstyle and will open up space for Jude, Phil and Bukayo.
Agreed or even foden as a false 9. Harry Kane will score a pen and get a motm and everyone will praise him. But when’s the last time he’s scored a real game changing goal towards the business end of a tournament? He’s not on the level of Benzema or Suarez for me
there isnt' the space in behind teams for Watkins at international level, he's not going to do anything.
@@matthewdobson100the run he made today against Denmark proves this point invalid
@@Kazeys Not true at all, hes let down by a poor manager who doesnt know how to build a team.
@@bensmith5581 kane is a good player but he’s a serial choker. I just don’t see any reality where he leads his team or club to a big trophy as the best player.
I feel like england should hire De Zerbi or idk anyone who isn't a bloody english coaching graduate who only knows to throw the ball up in long balls and pray to John Almond and Saint George they win the game.
not gonna work. england needs someone with the balls to put some of the stars on the bench. England has no balance, you just can't play with 4 ballplaying playmakers(foden, TAA, Saka, Bellingham) however good they are. There was no press, no out of possession movement and no one who would progress the ball from defense to attack.
Done this before with the previous “golden generation” and it didn’t work. Not saying it’s not worth trying, but it’s not as simple as just hiring someone else who isn’t English.
That and the FA aren’t exactly the smartest people at the best of times. Lots of people forget that before Southgate we almost had Sam Allardyce as the England manager.
England are Tottenham they ain't winning anything
Southgate believe it or not was supposed to be the opposite of this style of play, when he first came in it was all about structures and short passing. Go figure.
De zerbi playstyle is not tailored for international football one bit
End of day, just have more goals than the opponent and hold on to win. A lot of people forget that this is a tournament.
I reckon we should try Trent at right-back, Eze on the left wing and Wharton alongside Rice.
You mean play the players in their actual positions
Why Eze instead of Gordon? Just curious and not too familiar with Eze
Eze isn't a natural winger, its like Foden in the LW, Gordon best
Having good players means nothing if they can't make it perform as a team. it's the problem between stick to a single position (Rigid) or dynamically move to find space (Flexible). but either former or latter, the coach has to be clear on how to fit in the right player which I doubt he could. Hope this England team could reach final stage ;)
England have always been underwhelming for decades
Always? Or for decades?
@T.E.S.S. Both
@@bread3613 lol. Exactly
Underwhelming if you believed the hype. England had a really good set of players available around 2006-2008, but apart from that for the last 50 years or so England haven't had enough good players to justify anybody expecting them to succeed. Brazil, France, Spain, Italy and Germany have turned up to plenty of tournaments with top players in every position, so it's not surprising they are in a position to win.
England might be in that position at the next WC or Euros, given how many of the best English players now are in their early 20s and more seem to be coming through. All they need is a top English youth player to decide he wants to play left-back or goalkeeper for once, and they'll be sorted!
England played amazing football in euro 96 and were the best team in the tournament, just unlucky with results. Then England won Le Tournoi against Brazil, France and Italy (that tournament R Carlos scored the wonder goal). So maybe in your lifetime England were terrible but England were a very good side in the 90s unlucky not to win something. England were also the better side against Argentina until the red card, and again were the better side against them in 02. It's only in the modern era that we have so many players that are overhyped.
Felt this pre kickoff its why Gordon is a better option than Foden. Its not about your best 11 players its about your best team.
best team is foden jude rice midfieod
Very interesting analysis. I 100% agree. I feel like the major problem England had was that players other than Bellingham and Foden were incredibly non-dynamic. Trippier, Rice and TAA were glued to their positions and very reluctant to overlap.
The team also seemed incredibly weak at bypassing pressure having no real pre-thought passing schemes to overcome the Serbian pressure. Having no threats to explore the depth didn't make this task any easier, to be honest. Serbia realized this at half time but if Serbia had started off respecting England a little less the result might very well be different.
How to make England more dangerous? Don't park the bus at 1-0 up when you've had 80% possession.
TAA at RB. Shaw at LB. Wharton and Rice in the pivot. Gordon on the left.
Spot on analysis
simple, Gordon LW, stick him out on that side, play TAA RB supporting Saka or inverting, have Walker / Stones / Guehi as back 3 (walker covers for TAA when hes caught upfield) .... Rice sits with Bellingham box to box, Palmer in the 10, sorted.
No left back?
@@Naren25 with a 3 at the back, you dont need one, have Gordon hold the width. England essentially played a 325 or 326 anyway, but if they switched tripper out for gordon they would have a real threat down the left...
@@michaeladamson8109 I think a back 3 with Gordon and TAA protecting the flanks, and Rice and Bellingham in front of them would end up far too exposed.
I think you keep Trippier over Palmer, and have him and Trent both invert when in possession. Then Bellingham stays in the number 10 position, you have real width in Saka and Gordon, and you still protect the back 3
@@Naren25 walker as a RCB can cover trent on the right, the LCB can cover the left.... Rice can also drop into a back 4 (as he was doing on the goal kicks from the last match), or, pressure out wide to help the LCB/RCB when needed ....
Look at the best teams in the world, they usually use 3-1-6 or 3-2-5 in build up from the halfway line , what im proposing is just having more suited players on the wings over trippier on the left side
Watkins for kane and Gordon for foden. Ideally I'd rather trent played at rb, his defending is not nearly as bad as people pretend it is, walker has also been pretty shit this season. And if trippier is losing all his creativity playing on the left just play gomez instead and be more solid defensively. Then if trents at rb I'd probably say Wharton in midfield
Trent cannot be the 'controller' in midfield, he's not got the knowledge
Simple really. England won't win anything with Southgate.
agree 100 %
According to football meta analysis the problem doesn't lie with Southgate it lies with the players coming too deep to pick up the ball.
Plus Southgate needs new attacking strategy
@@yungdkay1008 Ye, coaches have 0 control over what players do. Players only play the way they want to. Hence, Southgate is the way to go. And ye, its 100% players fault. Southgate is masterclass. 💪
Maybe, but England have only ever won 1 competition in over 100 years of trying. Feels a bit unfair to pin it just on Southgate
@@ajmacconville1Lol they have an excuse for everything, it's never that other countries just produce better players 😂
Nice analysis, just like the old days, too many similar profiles of players. The bottom line is the tactics should be built around Jude at all costs so he should be the only player with freedom to roam. This immediately raises questions about Foden, Trent and Kane.
I think Kane can be disciplined enough to stay higg, he did very well in the 2nd half feeding off scraps, but Foden is completely wrong for this squad. A lot of noise about Trent after last night, hes definitely not the kind of player we need in the pivot but we dont really have any other options.
Saka on the left, Bowen on the right both playing high and direct. Trent needs more positional acumen, dont think Wharton is ready to start but he'd be perfect in terms of playstyle.
Kane should adapt trying to be a target man like Oliver Giroud does for France. Time for him to stop thinking he is a no 10, there is Jude for the role.
We could play Wharton instead of Trent
A bit too late to find your game idea, isn't it?
Reckon mainoo will be starting for TAA by the end of our tournament
If Kane and Bellingham are on the pitch, don't play Foden and vice-versa. If Kane and Bellingham are on the pitch, play a winger on the left instead that can run behind defenders and into space all day long. Foden is a traditional 10 masquerading as a winger, he just clogs up the middle when Kane and Bellingham are doing their thing in their natural positions.
Also, Walker needs to push up higher more often on the right, especially when you have a midfield base of Rice and TAA to cover any space left behind.
It really is that simple, but let's see what Southgate does or doesn't do (I'm not holding my breath).
Southgate doesn't deserve this quality of team. Painful watching Englsnd play
This is why not taking Rashford is crazy. His and Kane’s partnership has been great for England. It lets Kane be Kane.
Many great points made but imo you overlooked one of the biggest issues and thats Trippiers confused role as a lb.
He doesn't really stretch the opposition due to cutting back to his favored foot and he's unable to overlap consistently.
I think England should play Wharton or Mainoo and Gordon on the wing. I think Southgate should've gone for Ilang Jr from Juventus.
Anyone who sees nothing wrong with how the match played out needs to take a good hard look at both squads, just really inspect the difference in talent on each position and then rethink their analysis of the match. How a system can be so bad that it outright sucks the talent out of this squad is just mind boggling and should be studied by everyone who is aspiring to be a coach
I think it's important to also talk about how bad Southgate is at making substitutions. Foden who struggled all game to make an impact played a full 90 mins and it took him 70 minutes to bring more energy into the midfield. For me Trent should stay RB, Connor Gallagher's energy is extremely important in the midfield and we need a more direct touch line hugging LW so we don't have to rely on right-footed Trippier to make forward runs.
Tbf Trent could play a similar role as Kimmich.
Gallagher was put in to dive. And he did his job like a champ. what a lad.
We are the only nation in the tournament to only use 3 subs, and Southgate was saying after the game that the players used up too much energy in the first half, yeah well use the subs then!
@@jaybe2908 he’s always been extremely bad at game states and substitutions. Sadly can’t see it changing.
@@jaybe2908 southgate isn’t a modern coach. He lets his players play like we have the 2000s. You guys need a new headcoach
I cheered Gareth's selection of TAA because I thought it signalled a direction towards more flexibility and movement. What I expected was for England to line up initially in a 3-3-3-1 (similar to Germany vs Scotland) with Trippier and Trent playing wing-backs and Foden + Bellingham in free 10 slots. Saka would mostly be expected to run in behind, particularly anytime Kane looked to drop. On the left, Trippier not pushing up to left wing means this space is available to Phil or Jude to slide into, as well as lots of space in the central midfield areas. It also means that when this movement occurs, the wing-backs are ideally placed to rotate into the space that has been vacated. And against teams that overload the back 4 by width, I was looking for Gareth to change the shape to 3-4-3 - Trent is the one player in the England squad who offers this. What we got instead was 3 players - Trippier, Foden and Bellingham - all fighting for the same 20 x 20 square of the pitch and playing in each others' pockets. Just look at their heat maps to see the issue. And for a back 5, for whatever reason Gareth is preferring to drop Rice back instead of rotating Trent out, which just feels completely wrong.
My view is that a midfield trio of Rice, Bellingham and Foden is a match (with the ball) for anyone in the competition, comparing with Rodri, Pedri and Fabian as an example. They just have to be used properly. I think that either means using Trent's flexibility more actively or switching to a 4-1-2-3 (copying Spain) and adding Gordon on the left, which is better offensively but has some defensive issues. One thing is clear - if the team can't sort out a pattern of play that works, a fantastic opportunity for winning a wide open Euros tournament will have been lost. There's still time...but not much.
Bellingham in number 8 role and Foden in number 10 role with Gordon in left side can solve much problem
I don't know why there is no competition in the squad there are players that are always being looked out for... they have natural LW's but chose to play a left footed player there
Its called traditional winger, it's role is to deliver crosses in the box
@@dakapro2273 Well, it could be called traditional winger IF the winger wouldn't be Foden who is a lot but definitely no traditional winger...
@@dakapro22730 IQ... foden was clearly not a traditional winger. He was constantly narrow while trippier was high and wide.
@@hebisty4163Tbf that's not the argument here.
OP said that instead of a natural LW they choose to play a left footed player and that's a nonsense statement.
please edit
I feel like having players to make runs Instead of dropping deep will help. Maybe Watkins and Gordon and advancing Trent up the pitch would fair well for them, but they need a better dm in with rice, maybe Wharton/Mainoo because they progress the ball forward and are more press resistant than Trent.
Very interesting analysis, Hope to see Ollie Watkins on the left at some point. His natural game is to run in behind and he's had an amazing season for Villa. Maybe it could be similar to the old Kane/Son combination, who knows
would be interesting but not going to happen this tournament. If Foden gets dropped it will be Eze or Gordon. In fact I expect Foden to be subbed at some point in the next match and his replacement immediately making such a big difference that he becomes undroppable from there on in
I think this team could work but you have to keep the ball higher up the pitch.
England have this terrible habit of always trying to build from the goalkeeper. Corners, free kicks, promising positions all get sacrificed to get the ball back to the keeper and start again. It is so frustrating watching it and wastes so much time.
Ill give you 4 reasons
1: The boss
2:: The Manager
3: Gareth
4: Southgate
Great video as always!
Totally felt that England clogged the areas where they couldn't do any damage and couldn't use space between the Serbia lines or make any runs behind the line.
Great graphics to visualize this.
Btw. Trippier at his "wrong" side and Walker are pretty useless providing any attacking threath from advanced vide positions. Both good players, but Serbia did let them get ball at flanks for a reason and deliberately funneled England to play to Trippier at 2/3 of the pich, because they knew nothing dangerous was ever going to happen from those possessions.
Spot on, Kane the only option no chance for any penetrating passes
it's not just lack of pace, the build up play was far too deep, it's fine to recycle posession but it's meant to be close to their box. It looked like they were afraid to push up and instead just wanted to play infront of them. If you want to play like this you're supposed to pin them in. Iceland game was far more impressive than this despite the fact we lost now it looks like that game scared Southgate and he's back to his scared approach. Foden is a box player if you don't play in the box expecting him to do anything is moronic. If you're gonna play this deep then yeah there's no point in him being there, just put Eze/Gordon on, boot the ball to him and hope he does something.
Southgate is a chief only put all the best ingredient into one plate and use microware to cook it
I thought I was the only one who thought England kinda sucked. Serbia was way more attacking. The problem with playing passively is that when you attack, it gets really taxing on the players and it does not even work out.
drop Walker and play TAA at right back, making room for Watkins to play up front. This will allow Foden to be more central and affect the game more.
Everybody overlooks the fact that Walker is an automatic starter. He's 34, lost a lot of pace and offers nothing going forwards. Southgate's stuck-in-the-mud defensive mindedness though means TAA will never be considered. He knows more than Klopp, apparently.
@@lukeyolives3300
agreed. I don't think he offers anything more than TAA in that right back position, and TAA has the better game for progressing attacking play.
@@bengreen171 hes still better defensively then Trent and at 34 is still physically superior , trent just shouldnt be in the starting 11. He wins less then half his 1v1 ground duels , and barely a quarter of his aerial ones. He is literally in the bottom half of fullbacks across europes big 5 leagues defensively , and tbh was nowhere near the top for attacking stats last season either. but because he gets the opportunity in liverpools system to play some speculative diagonal long balls ( and has had a few big game moments like that cheeky quick corner vs Barca) hes somehow been labeled as this generations beckham. both walker and trippier should be ahead of him for RB. And he cant play midfield either . He can only long ball , he simply doesnt have the pass % to be a midfield maestro like say Kroos , and he also cant carry the ball forwards himself nor deal with heavy press as hes simply not skilled enough on the ball. All he can do is cross.
@@IamMalkavian
stats aren't everything.
@@bengreen171 so a strikers goals scored or keepers clean sheets doesn't matter? those are stats. people just dont want to accept that Trent is overated. hes obviously good , but hes not this world class superstar people imagine he is. his game is full of flaws and hes never going to shine in a cm role , at least not with the way england currently plays. all stats are doing are showing what a player does during a match. if i miss all my passes im going to have a poor pass % stat , so its a pretty easy way to decide im probably not suited to play a creative role in midfield as im going to turn the ball over a lot , even if im sometimes getting an assist with speculative passes. you can like him all you want , and who knows maybe he will grow into that position , but so far over the last few seasons hes shown little ability in the areas you usually need to succeed in a midfield position. a 3-4-3 with him on the right mid would suit him , he would have walker behind to defend since he cant do that , saka ahead of him to make runs and dribble since he cant do that , and being on the flank he can just focus on crosses and throughballs without dealing with the press in the middle of the park. either way it doesnt really matter as england's tournament will be over pretty soon
If TAA is going to continue in midfield, the entire left side needs to be replaced because the best pass that he hits is the diagonal from the right half space. Gordon, Gomez, and Wharton would totally change that dynamic with Shaw coming in provided he can return to fitness.
I think they need two fast strikes to be able to pull left and right.
If they can confuse center defenders,
Bellingham can push up and become the main threat
England should play a 3-5-2 with Alex.-Arnold and, I think, Saka on the left, Rice as the central player of 3 full backs. Wharton and Bellingham behind Palmer. Kane and Watkins up front. Key is to press, make the distances between the lines tight and Watkins, Saka and Palmer make in depth runs.
Agree 100% about Trent. The amount of people who don't understand positional play is different in possession and out of possession.
Also, England need a natural left back on the pitch, no point having both left sided players wanting to come inside and offer no width. Shaw has to play and probably better to drop Foden for a more natural winger like Gordon or Eze.
I said this before the squad was even picked. I can’t believe Sterling isn’t even getting a look in. He was our best player last euros and he always delivers for England. He is runs the channels all day long and very well.
You think the answer to the lack of pace in behind is Gordon? He’s very quick and direct. Maybe even Bowen on the left as he’s naturally left footed and can deliver a few crosses/cutbacks.
What’s particularly frustrating is that Southgate has had years to get this right, but he just hasn’t, and is still far too slow to adapt to events in games
Whatever third the ball is in, they must create overloads there, fluid 325 formation on attacking and 532 on defending
Passing the ball up the left ,then not crossing it ,because unlike Christy brown ,no my left foot 😂😂😂😂😂
That squad should win. It’s a golden generation. And England has so many lethal options in the final third it’s ridiculous.
By parking the bus after getting in front, you’re also double down on your “weakness”.
The players are getting frustrated as well. They run around shaking their heads and yelling of each other.
Foden is on the left, he should be at 10. Trent is a fish out of water on that 8th position and there’s great option at 8th. Kane drops deep and participate in the buildup, but when he gets the ball deep, who is he gonna pass to, to get the ball progressively up the pitch?
Pickford is alright but he’s England’s biggest weakness. Why would you intensify your weakness?
You can’t just flip a switch either and regain momentum whenever you want. It’s bloody difficult in football.
And because you place a top3 world’s best offensive wingbacks on the 8th. you’re also completely unnecessarily get overrun on the midfield. Bellingham should be at 8 and have a free role. Foden should be at 10. You could put Gordon on the left.
In both games you needed pace in the number 9. That’s Toney for you.
He also became a danger against Denmark, but at that point, Denmark had the game under their control, because Southgate let them with playing a low-block, park the bus style, with probably the most competent front in this EUROS
Nowadays, players are rotating their position and moving together to overload one side. Southgate are still waiting these players to shine on their own.
I think by playing Bellingham as double pivot with Rice would be better. Palmer could succeed in the no 10 role as he’s been doing at Chelsea. And obviously England needs a pure left footed LB to exploit the wide area. I often see Trippier is awkward of using his left foot and this is a problem for England. Foden is in the half space so frequent and he needs to rely on a fullback that can gives overlap support. For no 9, they need a mobile striker and Watkins is the for the job.
I really hope Southgate watches this sort of stuff.
I would put Jude on the left and move Palmer/foden to the middle. Install a no nonsense midfield duo with rice and wharton/gallagher. Have Walker use his speed to overlap on the right and keep Gomez on the left. Trent can sub for Walker and invert with cover from wharton/ gallagher on the wing.
I think you should do a tactics review like this for the romania game. I felt it interesting with the scoreline and Romania having 34ish% possession
Southgate should have brought in Rashford, he’s the forward who best pairs with Kane.
Southgate will probably play a 8-1-1 if England make it to the semifinals
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Would have been interesting to see the difference Watkins would have made
probably not that much because the one thing you don't want in that system is the CF dropping deep, which is why Kane didn't do it, so anyone else would be equally isolated. In fact having these world class celebrity players who can't be dropped is in itself part of the problem - you lose a lot of Kane's quality by not allowing him to link play, but he can't do that because Bellingham is there. You want to play Foden as he's just won everything and been brilliant in another team, but it doesn't work with these other players. The only ones who are 100% comfortable in the midfield/attack are Rice and Saka
@@GuyJames i agree. Its annoying tho that Kane has to essentially sacrifice himself for Foden where in my opinion Foden should stay wider and sacrifice himself for Kane, whos the better player
@@GuyJames Except Watkins will run the channels and actually press, two things Kane did very little of
They need to get a better manager.
Southgate wanted what he thinks are his best players at any cost. He wanted Trent.
I'm keep it saying since 2000. England and EPL are just overrated.
It's mad we play out from the back but don't have any attacking full backs on the park. More importantly a left footed left back and we need someone like Wharton next to Rice. If we play Southgate ball then we need more pace..... Which doesn't really suit kane, at least for 90mins
Start gorden, bench walker, move trent to rb, start Gallagher
But when shaw is back, start foden
For a striker as complete as Kane the physicality, passing range, elusive movement and clinical finish it's a miracle that Southgate managed to avoid playing to any of his strength😂.
He could have tried to old school longball it, give it to him to create chances through his passing, just let him stay in the box and find space to receive and shoot
Physicality? Every time Someone as much as touched him he fell straight to the ground. Like a sack of potatoes…
You can talk as much about tactics as you like, but because our build up play is so slow, the opposition always have time to pick players up. Maybe we're trying to catch them sleeping lol
I think England should push Bellingham back to partner Rice, drop Arnold and then bring Foden to the centre in front of them. I got the impression with Bellingham keen to run across the outside of the penalty box, he was denying Kane those balls to his feet that he likes so much. If he is further back he can work with Foden to supply Kane, I would play a front three of maybe Kane, Saka and maybe Eze/Toney...
You ever try to give ppl advice but they do the opposite. That's the england manager in a nutshell. The more criticism of his tactics and squad selections the more stubborn he becomes.
How to setup a team and be outnumbered in every position. Thought he would have fixed the problem by now. It's been the same for many games now. How can trippier be playing in grealishes position? Honestly Southgate is setting them up to fail. We got a goal and did nothing further. First corner in second half with all that attacking talent. Just very poor decision making from England camp.
As a totally novice observer it seems obvious that players are not taking each other on, one to one. A totally non risk safe approach that does not create opportunity. If one player can beat another it leaves an unmarked player breaking free and pushes the opposition to break from strict marking. Remember those historical games where players “dribbled” past three players and took a shot at goal.!!!
Southgate is the problem now it's like Foden playing with Jude causes problems 😭 Musiala and Witz are able to play together as 2 10s
Currently if pep gets the England job will be something interesting cause he has been in the premier league fir many years and he knows all these players and maybe he can change the dynamics.
If our passing was better Serbia would have won. England coaching is not coming home
Put Sterling or Grealish on the left so they can make runs. Oops... They weren't selected.
It's simple really, a player on each side holding the width, 3 at the back with a box midfield with Bellingham as the left 10 and foden as the right (seriously, get foden off the left, why are we sacrificing him for others like trent) and kane up top, its simple really. You can even have 4 at the back and have stones come into midfield as the 2nd 6. In possession its the 3-box-3 and out its a 5-4-1 or 4-5-1. We arent drilled well enough for this pressing playstyle, just ait back and allow the opponent to create space behind them then hit them on the counter or recycle it and build up with slow play. Can even do a 5-3-2 or 4 triple 2 with watkins partnering kane up top, which would be great to see. Most of the players have experience with these systems, I've been saying this is how we should be playing for years now, is this not so obvious?
Southgate needs to change something. It would be completely unacceptable to come out exactly the same in their next game.
England should make a balanced team i know all these players are great for their clubs but if you want to have balance and some chemistry you need to change some players i think harry kane was playing more like halland in the 1st half and we should've played someone else in foden position became he was almost the whole time defending which isnt great and i think give TAA time but he shouldn't press high on the pitch he should've stayed with rice
Ball retention and playing it out from the back has killed football, and England are the biggest example of its ineffectiveness.
Why do you even need a double pivot when you have one of the best DMs in the world right now? Bellingham can easily play as a temporary 2nd pivot to progress the ball from defence to midfield.
Foden lw over Gordon made them predictable on that side
He left massive gaps on the left, which meant that Serbia where not being stretched. The overload that he should have caused when he roamed to the center of the pitch didn't materialise. He absolutely cannot start the next game.
Gordon and Watkins can make runs, so not having a runner could be fixed with right substitutions.
Should have played someone with more attacking ability and speed down the left instead of Foden. Already got Bellingham and Foden was just a waste not going out wide.
Kane should have been subbed off for Watkins with some pace on the ball if playing conservatively. If TAA was not working as you describe then again sub on Gallagher or Wharton sooner.
For harder opponents later in the comp, then it's probably going to need Wharton with Rice and Eze on the left. You want Kane to get service IN the box if he's playing and that will drive the best out of Bellingham and Saka. Eze is the sort of destructive player to cause carnage and Wharton can feed while Rice can play even deeper DM role. Gordon and Watkins if pace is on the agenda and pressing up high also again instead of Foden and sub on/off with Kane. And don't forget Palmer should have a run up front too instead of Kane if necessary. All depends if Kane gets ball in the box he's awesome if not try other combinations.
Southgate gamble to play TAA central midfield will cost him against big teams. Time will tell!
Southgate needs to see this video
England have one player who can turn in holding midfield , Mainoo. And he doesn’t even play
even with mainoo, who gonna be replaced with mainoo? If u replace Rice with Mainoo, u asking for trouble since there is no one cover
@@johnlau6749rice and mainoo flanking foden and Bellingham double pivot twin 10s
We are one of the best at holding possession from the start but one of the worst teams at chance creation. Arguably a dominant first half with just a few shots on target. Why aren't we more direct? We have world class players being stifled. At club level, our players have some of the highest goal contributions, yet for England it's few and far between, do I remember just one shot on target against Iceland? You have to question what's being told to the players to be so conservative.
This is why we need Rashford
was a disappointing performance. I think the defenders and gk played well but the midfield was way too passive, which Southgate recognised when he put on Gallagher. Foden had an absolute shocker, he was barely even controlling the ball at times.
I think they will start the next match with the same lineup but if it goes as badly then Shaw will be risked, and I would expect to see Gallagher again plus Eze. If/when Shaw does come back that may fix a lot of the problems because Trippier didn't play a single forward pass I don't think, so that plus Foden's rank performance meant that whole side was dead in an attacking sense
You never know, maybe england are sandbagging their performances so teams underestimate us in the knockout stages. I highly doubt it but one can hope 😂
What solutions do you think england could have?
Maybe Watkins, he is pretty good at providing a runs behind, but who do you drop to play him?
Bellingham/Foden is the new Gerrard/Lampard
I'd drop walker and trippier in favour for having trent invert at rb and gomez form the back 3 from lb, much like they both did for Liverpool this season. Then move foden to the right half space, let jude box to box in the left side, where he is best and play eze or Gordon on the wing making runs and holding width. Honestly sub kane is it's not working and we need an extra runner.
walker's pace is critical to our defending if we have a high line. As I've said elsewhere, 3-4-3 (on paper) with Gordon in for Trippier is my preferred solution currently. back three, with Walker narrower alongside Stones and Guehi, stay back (i.e. we're not trying to get width from full backs). midfieled of Gordon, Bellingham, Rice, Trent, front three of Foden Kane, Saka. Gordon offers overlap on the left which holds defenders for foden to work inside to the right of centre, Bellingham stays the same (he favours the left of centre) which foden has vacated, Trent is in his best position to play cross field balls or crosses from more advanced positions and overlap Saka from time to time, he can also slot across into midfield depending on the situation. Gordon (although still not a left footer still does play wide left) has the workrate to get up and down the left and help out in defending, whilst offering more threat than Trippier, and Trent can help on the right without being exposed as the primary defender. Rice is the holding midfield and Stones can also step out into midfield as needed to help ball retention whilst still having two cover defenders behind him (which currently with wide full backs isn't the case). Shaw (if he ever gets fit) could come in for Gordon if we wanted more defensive protection.
overall more balance with not much sacrificed in defense and gets more of the players into their most effective positions.
Ollie Watkins and Gordon should be starting
This video basically implies Southgate just copy & paste every player from their clubs onto his own tactic template without using much of his brain
The goal came from Zivkovic having a 2v1 at the back post because Serbia were set up first half in a 5-4-1 block with Vlahovic as the right sided mid but he never tracked back or connected properly with the line allowing an Bellingham to take advantage of a late run into the box with no one tracking from behind because Vlahovic wasn’t connected nor attempting to be connected as you can see he was in walking stride in your still & about 15m vertically away from Zivkovic which was too far in your own third …. It was more Stojkovic useless tactics that gave them the goal then them doing anything well
will you are spot on with a lot of the players want the ball to the feet,
so here is the changes
when attack 3-4-2-1
Pickford
walker- stone - Guehi
A.gordon - rice - Wharton - saka
Foden - Bellingham
kane
when defended they go with 4231
So saka LB and Foden or Belli as LM
to have that high press possibility
Hi, could you please tell me what that software is you are using?
Never worked, every tournament useless against any team even half decent , scrape thru first rounds then bar a wild horse 👍🏻 side we come home , its the man and tactics , the players know we all know , pundits n players dare not tell the truth , can,t won,t except a brave honest couple 🦁🦁🦁🏴
England is the graphics/gameplay debate. Looks amazing but the gameplay is meh.
Hopefully Southgate adapts, otherwise Bowen is a much better fit to pick up the Pickford long balls
Aren't you doing the live match tatics again?
i still said don't drop madders and jwp and select dan burn or ben white but they did select whom an immature parent gordon and eze/watkins etc if this happens england will not even play well nor will win anything till the end of 21 century.
The Netherlands, who played before England, were better than England. Strange that England are still seen as favourites when they are in such poor form.