Hey question, is the 750 hornet coming to the states? It's not on Honda's US website. I figured you'd likely be one of the first people to know whether or not they were releasing this bike in the states or not, so I figured I'd ask
At the same time, it is incredibly....boring. It's like the people at Honda were like, "Oh f*ck, guys! Suzuki is rolling out the GSX-8S, Yamaha has the MT-07 and MT-09...and us? We have....the 500F. The idea: we take the 500F with a big engine! It's going to be awesome!"
@@krasky yep - it's the blatently obvious thing to do and there's very likely absolutely nothing surprising or excitingly new about the bike and that's exactly what we expect from Honda and that bike is gonna sell the second it hits show room floors because of course it will. Honda in a nutshell - you know exactly what you're gonna get and it's gonna be bulletproof but no surprises.
@@krasky yeah, I just don't understand Honda man. They got the engine, electronics and price right. But for some reason they just couldn't design a motorcycle. If they got the design right they would have killed the MT 07 and Suzuki because nobody in their mind would spend the same price for less HP or more weight.
But the suzuki comes with a quickshifter stock which is 300€ for the honda The remaining 700€ difference is worth just for the looks itself in my opinion
Thinking it will be the gsx8s for me. I haven't seen the Hornet get announced for North America yet. The MT07 would be my last pick. Partially cause I already had one. But now it also lacks tech that the others have. Maybe if 5k, couple year old ones actually existed here as mentioned in video, but they are more like 7k.
The MT-07 got so overhyped that the prices of used ones are getting out of control. I think the reason why many RUclipsrs are still talking about cheap used MT-07s is because this was true for a long time, but is outdated as of now. Good thing is that these now competetion at the market should have a positive impact on the used market as well and even out these crazy price demands for the MT.
My aged Suzuki bandit 650 has 77 hp but only 33 ft lbs of torque, and that, along with it's porcine mass is what takes much of the fun out of urban riding. I'm thinking the torque is the most important number for the bikes in this category, and that's where the GSX-8s reigns supreme. Plus it seems like you can actually buy one. Don't get me wrong, the Hornet does look like a very strong competitor in this category, but if you live in North America, you're going to be out of luck for a while.
@@underworldringside the chassis is not perfect, the suspension is literal garbage, and the frame flexes a bit to much under hard cornering after the suspension has been upgraded. The brakes don’t inspire a ton of confidence either, upgrades are also needed there. Suzuki’s new GSX8S, and especially Honda’s new Hornet vastly outperform it everywhere… the MT07 needs a massive upgrade… geometry is also highly subjective due to rider size/stature…
Nice video Noob. As the current owner of a Z900, a Ducati Monster and an 848, and previous owner of many different models, I have to say that it is horses for courses. The numbers are less important than the feel of a bike to you. So if you are looking to buy a bike, test ride everything you can and buy the one that makes you grin the most.
The gsx 8s costs 1000€ more in germany Add the quickshifter on the honda and its a 700€ difference That 700€ is worth just for the better looks itself in my opinion
Talks about the 2023 MT-07 TFT display but shows the previous year model with the LCD display. Also never mentiones that you get now a quickshifter option with the 2023 model
Why does it sound like this video was voiced by a bot using Yammie's voice clips strung together. Something just seemed off in the inflections, cadence and some pronunciations. Did anyone get a weird vibe to how this video sounded?
Yam, love the single swing arm look and while a more premium option they seem to be spread over quite a few options. Can you do a comparison of the single swing boys available? Thanks broham
I'm a new rider who just got a 2023 Z400, so it will be some time before any potential upgrade, but that Honda Hornet looks mighty fine to me. That price point, (assuming i get something good on trade-in) and the power bump up are hard to pass on.
All of these bikes need a round headlight version for non squids, throw in a rear fender as well. They look as if they are missing parts from the factory. Honda created this look in 83 with the CBR-400F, it also looked as if it was missing parts.
I just recently sold my MT-07 and now have a Tracer 9GT. I would really like to get my hands on the Honda Hornet as it looks so much more refined than the MT-07. Fit'n finish is not Yamaha's strong point for sure.
Yammi did you use an AI voice synthesizer for this? Like elevenlabs? Your voiceover sounds extremely robotic compared to what I remember about your voice.
Yeah, listened to it again and I am 90% confident Yammi used an AI voice synthesize for this video. Not that that's a problem or anything. Just pointing it out.
Has Yammie started using an AI with a voice tone similar to his to make videos? Quite a few hints of that in the sound and monotonic tone, plus almost no jokes? Maybe even the text itself is AI generated...
MT07 the best in the class, in my opinion. It's engine, weight (Suzuki), agility, rear wheel width (Honda). Also, Yamaha makes this type of engine since long time now and the other two have their first gens now only.
Sorry Yam- this dialog sounds like AI reading it in your voice without having done a read through first. It’s like it’s being read by someone who never saw a motorcycle.
So if the Hornet 750 had a big brother.... would the new CB1000 coming in 24 be that said brother? if the pics are close, its a shut up and take my money kind of deal
I love my Suzuki GSX 8s. I haven't had the chance to ride anything else because the motorcycle store that I went to does not allow you to test ride the machines or at least that's what I was told by the sales guy
When are people going to learn that the music on these videos completely destroys the work they put into the videos. Sounds like a funeral home appointment
New Hornet had just arrived in my local shop.... Looks good in the flesh. I had a sit on it, that seat is so bloody hard... Seems like no one at Honda actually sat on one....haha. It was painful..
The Hornet I would be a good offer. However there's one minor problem. You can't buy one here in the USA. They're not even one the Honda Motorsports website. And if you want a 650 to 700 cc naked bike for under 9k your only options are Suzuki Sv 650, kawasaki Z650 or a Yamaha Mt-07. All the other all other bikes are 9k and above.
I just want a 2023 Suzuki Sv650 in Dubai Black. Can't find one here in southern California All the supposed Suzuki dealers have just one in blue and one in grey blah
Wht did you use AI to deepfake your voice in this video? 4:14 is the biggest example of it Edit: 4:48 ujEEHHm -4:58 just sounds really really rough especially when he says "2000's" lol
@@stuckinobamalow4559 the bikes just too damn light that’s the issue. You know how many countless videos I’ve seen of people crashing in the twisties with their mto7? Cause it’s TOO LIGHT, the weight of the bike helps stay planted at high speed turns but the mto7 is too light.
I've got a 2004 Honda 919 hornet best do-it-all bike I've ever had and I've owned over 30 motorcycles . Bulletproof... light. . .quick and I paid $5,500 for it new.
Well, the MT 07 sells for 8340€, the 8S for 8900€ and the Hornet for 7890€ (or 8545€ if you want the sports pack with the QS). Honda looks like the best Value for money, but it's just the spec sheet. Need to ride all of the once the 8S hits the Showroom floors in Germany 🤷🏼
Hornet always was 599 CC lightweight naked, why do you associate hornet name with 900 failure? They made 900 for only a few years, it was a commercial failure , while hornet 600 always sold well, had multiple generations. One of the most iconic honda naked bikes.
They were great bikes but people failed to realise at the time. We were all buying gsxr cbr ninja and R1/R6 and missed out. The TDM had a real turn of speed around urban areas . And the torque was really something.
You said Cyberpunk insect styling cues just come with the territory for naked bikes.......and..... that's unfortunate because it makes them look like crap IMO...What happened to the round-ish headlights of old?...I think they should make half fairings that had retro styling cues. Kawasaki GPZ 500 but more streamlined...Think Speed Triple 1200RR...but on the Yam...They're missing the mark in the market.
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Hey question, is the 750 hornet coming to the states? It's not on Honda's US website. I figured you'd likely be one of the first people to know whether or not they were releasing this bike in the states or not, so I figured I'd ask
did you use a Yammie Bot for this video? It sounded off with a lot of grammatical errors🤣
That’s what I’m saying uncanny valley just doesn’t seem right
facts
That Honda Hornet is a damn amazing value proposition coming in at just below € 8.000 in Germany
At the same time, it is incredibly....boring. It's like the people at Honda were like, "Oh f*ck, guys! Suzuki is rolling out the GSX-8S, Yamaha has the MT-07 and MT-09...and us? We have....the 500F. The idea: we take the 500F with a big engine! It's going to be awesome!"
@@krasky yep - it's the blatently obvious thing to do and there's very likely absolutely nothing surprising or excitingly new about the bike and that's exactly what we expect from Honda and that bike is gonna sell the second it hits show room floors because of course it will. Honda in a nutshell - you know exactly what you're gonna get and it's gonna be bulletproof but no surprises.
@@krasky yeah, I just don't understand Honda man. They got the engine, electronics and price right. But for some reason they just couldn't design a motorcycle. If they got the design right they would have killed the MT 07 and Suzuki because nobody in their mind would spend the same price for less HP or more weight.
But the suzuki comes with a quickshifter stock which is 300€ for the honda
The remaining 700€ difference is worth just for the looks itself in my opinion
@@coolmetin02 don't forget the 8 is less horsepower and heavier. We will see the difference soon with a head to head
Meanwhile I bought my first bike.
A 2009 preowned Kawasaki ER-6N.
Finally owning and riding a bike and not only watching videos about bikes.
Nice choice, service it when required and it will last a lifetime.
What in the text to speech?
Good comparison vid.
One correction: The MT07 does not have upside down forks.
After owning for two years I wish they did
he just anticipated the my2025 😂
Thinking it will be the gsx8s for me. I haven't seen the Hornet get announced for North America yet. The MT07 would be my last pick. Partially cause I already had one. But now it also lacks tech that the others have. Maybe if 5k, couple year old ones actually existed here as mentioned in video, but they are more like 7k.
The MT-07 got so overhyped that the prices of used ones are getting out of control.
I think the reason why many RUclipsrs are still talking about cheap used MT-07s is because this was true for a long time, but is outdated as of now.
Good thing is that these now competetion at the market should have a positive impact on the used market as well and even out these crazy price demands for the MT.
@@forrest_dumb1109 Yeah, the used MT-07 prices are absolutely nuts!
The 2023 MT07 has a nice upgraded color speedo.
Take the Honda out for a ride man. The engine is fantastic. I’ve ordered one
Yammie, why is this video fake voiced? And is it? Sounds like it
What is up with the generated voice? I can't be the only one who noticed it right from the start? :D
Looking forward to seeing you give Ride evaluations on these models.
As soon as I can get my hands on the hornet or the GSX8S - I'm making a video!
@@yammienoob 👍
@@yammienoob Can't wait! Thanks!
My aged Suzuki bandit 650 has 77 hp but only 33 ft lbs of torque, and that, along with it's porcine mass is what takes much of the fun out of urban riding. I'm thinking the torque is the most important number for the bikes in this category, and that's where the GSX-8s reigns supreme. Plus it seems like you can actually buy one. Don't get me wrong, the Hornet does look like a very strong competitor in this category, but if you live in North America, you're going to be out of luck for a while.
The MT07 really just needs a chassis update, or make an SP model with better inverted suspension and radially mounted brakes
Wrong chassis is perfect. I raced and it's spot on. That's a stupid reply
The geometry is spot on. The forks only
@@underworldringside the chassis is not perfect, the suspension is literal garbage, and the frame flexes a bit to much under hard cornering after the suspension has been upgraded. The brakes don’t inspire a ton of confidence either, upgrades are also needed there. Suzuki’s new GSX8S, and especially Honda’s new Hornet vastly outperform it everywhere… the MT07 needs a massive upgrade… geometry is also highly subjective due to rider size/stature…
@@sleeper.simulant7327mt07 is hopelessly outdated compared to Suzuki and Honda, both with more modern, powerfull and complete package
The background music is like you’re on hold trying to make a dentist appointment or stuck in a elevator…geez
We'll tweak that for future uploads 🔥
Yeah it’s made me not complete a few videos that I was genuinely interested in. But I cannot stand the “anti loitering” music
Beautiful piano music 🎶...I had no idea this was a motorcycle video...
@@yammienoob music's good 👍 easy to listen to. But of course you cannot please everyone
@@robertbuzby3769 I believe it is one of Chopins nocturnes
Nice video Noob.
As the current owner of a Z900, a Ducati Monster and an 848, and previous owner of many different models, I have to say that it is horses for courses. The numbers are less important than the feel of a bike to you. So if you are looking to buy a bike, test ride everything you can and buy the one that makes you grin the most.
The GSX8S is fully equipped, heavier, costs more and has less power than the Hornet. Are we sure Honda didn’t make THAT one?
I think equipping quickshifter on the hornet makes the price tag closer to 8s
The gsx 8s costs 1000€ more in germany
Add the quickshifter on the honda and its a 700€ difference
That 700€ is worth just for the better looks itself in my opinion
I think the GSX 8S feels higher quality up close. You get what you pay for I think.
Suzuki is sportier in handling and has a 180 in the back, but also came with a 10% premium of price
Fires shots right at kawi in the first 15 seconds of the video 😂 automatic like for me
But why do you guys hata kawa 😀
Why is z650 not a contender?
Why is the Trident not in on the comparison? bc of te 3cylinder engine.. Triumph would make my day all day ^^
I’m in the Uk and have done my training on a brand new MT-07 enjoyed it, great starter bike imo now have my license and straight onto my z900.
Talks about the 2023 MT-07 TFT display but shows the previous year model with the LCD display. Also never mentiones that you get now a quickshifter option with the 2023 model
Exactly what is was thinking.
Why does it sound like this video was voiced by a bot using Yammie's voice clips strung together. Something just seemed off in the inflections, cadence and some pronunciations. Did anyone get a weird vibe to how this video sounded?
The lack of people noticing this is unnerving. I bet 1/2 of the views and comments are bots as well
i just bought my mt07 and was waiting for this exact video
@@Rettungssocke boi or gal haha 😂
Am I tripping, did yammie use a voice synthesiser for this vid, it has a slight inhuman tinge to it
Sounds like one of those AI voices
100% he used some kinda AI voiceover tool for this, it sounds weird as hell
Since when does the MT07 have upside down forks? 🤦 what’s wrong Yammie
Went a little too quick on that one 👀
2:15 right side up, not upside down ;-)
Yam, love the single swing arm look and while a more premium option they seem to be spread over quite a few options. Can you do a comparison of the single swing boys available? Thanks broham
Honda Nerds
Yamaha Chads
Suzuki Stans
Kawasaki Kyles
😂❤
I'm a new rider who just got a 2023 Z400, so it will be some time before any potential upgrade, but that Honda Hornet looks mighty fine to me. That price point, (assuming i get something good on trade-in) and the power bump up are hard to pass on.
They all looks EXACTLY the same.
How can people drive these soulless ugly plastic crapcycles?
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I can’t tell you enough, MT07
@@relevation0 huh?
A bit sad there wasnt the sv650 since it's also a naked, but understandable since GSX is replacing SV ;(
rip sv...
All of these bikes need a round headlight version for non squids, throw in a rear fender as well. They look as if they are missing parts from the factory. Honda created this look in 83 with the CBR-400F, it also looked as if it was missing parts.
The mt07 has xsr700 variant.
I just recently sold my MT-07 and now have a Tracer 9GT. I would really like to get my hands on the Honda Hornet as it looks so much more refined than the MT-07. Fit'n finish is not Yamaha's strong point for sure.
Hornet looks like a 300 sports bike. Ugly thing
Yammi did you use an AI voice synthesizer for this? Like elevenlabs? Your voiceover sounds extremely robotic compared to what I remember about your voice.
Yeah, listened to it again and I am 90% confident Yammi used an AI voice synthesize for this video. Not that that's a problem or anything. Just pointing it out.
2:15 @Yammie Noob MT07 doesn't has upside down forks
There are some parts of this video where it sounds like an AI-version of Yammie is narrating 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pretty sure it is
It definitely is. 100%. Listen to 4:48-4:58
8:02 57 footballs 8:42 heavier than the "Mount"
TFT displays don't do a thing for me. I much prefer simple analog clocks that tell me everything I need to know at a glance.
I prefer needles over lcd
is yams voice in this vid AI generated? Sounds like it
Anyone know if we’ll have a Cbr750r version of the hornet?
They are using the same engine platform for the new transalp so hopefully they will do a CBR sports bike too!!
Thinking about selling my 2008 R6S and getting an FZ or MT-07
How come there isn’t the Honda cb650r naked ?
When will we be able to get the 750 hornet in the US? Tried checking out the price and ordering options on Honda's website and it doesnt show up
Has Yammie started using an AI with a voice tone similar to his to make videos? Quite a few hints of that in the sound and monotonic tone, plus almost no jokes? Maybe even the text itself is AI generated...
needed this video
Hey I was on your website looking for parts for a 2005 Honda cbr600rr but Honda isn’t even a listed as a make is there a reason why?
MT07 the best in the class, in my opinion. It's engine, weight (Suzuki), agility, rear wheel width (Honda). Also, Yamaha makes this type of engine since long time now and the other two have their first gens now only.
What is a crossfire twin? 270 degrees? Like most twins today.
Been waiting for this video!!
Mmm still love my 2007 919. Owned it about 12 years and just clicked over 20k. She is a sweetheart thanks for the mention
How to spot a Yamaha fanboy: discusses MT07 - doesn't mention the lurching, snatchy throttle or overcooked pasta suspension.
Have you heard anything about the release date in the U.S yet?
Sorry Yam- this dialog sounds like AI reading it in your voice without having done a read through first. It’s like it’s being read by someone who never saw a motorcycle.
So if the Hornet 750 had a big brother.... would the new CB1000 coming in 24 be that said brother? if the pics are close, its a shut up and take my money kind of deal
Is a wider back tire better or the modes on a Honda ?
Really like that Hornet. But just could not accept that oil pan. Maybe they will be a upgrade if possible .
Great to hear riders comparisons
I love my Suzuki GSX 8s. I haven't had the chance to ride anything else because the motorcycle store that I went to does not allow you to test ride the machines or at least that's what I was told by the sales guy
Comparing specs isn’t compelling. I’ll watch when you do a test ride comparison.
When are people going to learn that the music on these videos completely destroys the work they put into the videos. Sounds like a funeral home appointment
Man had a Honda 600 hornet was soo great!!! Got a sv650 no w😅
Waiting for the Honda Hornet to come to America baby so I can trade in my Ninja 650 KRT for the Hornet.
Bet a cbr750r comes out soon sure you don't want to wait ?
Picking up my gsx8s tomorrow ready for warmer weather.
The concept & features of these bikes are fantastic, they just dont hold a candle to the looks of the Trident 660 IMHO...
New Hornet had just arrived in my local shop.... Looks good in the flesh. I had a sit on it, that seat is so bloody hard... Seems like no one at Honda actually sat on one....haha. It was painful..
As a mt07 2022 owner i would even upgrade to a 2023 model.
The hornet and the 8s looks are just not my cup of tea 🤭
❤mt07 ...... Fun/ exhilarating/ on edge / exciting. You can't beat that ,the others are for nerd's
I’ve sold my MT07 2022, and bought the Honda CB650R.
Best decision ever.
@@Kierowca_Odpowiedzialny why ?
Finally a TFT dash on the MT07! I tried installing an LCD flip kit on my FZ07 and now the backlight doesn't work properly 🤷♂
Now, I really do like the look of the GSX-8S, but it is so damn heavy compared to the MT07
It's 100.000 Baht more expensive in Thailand also
Not worth the money
MT light great handling enough power
The Hornet I would be a good offer. However there's one minor problem. You can't buy one here in the USA. They're not even one the Honda Motorsports website. And if you want a 650 to 700 cc naked bike for under 9k your only options are Suzuki Sv 650, kawasaki Z650 or a Yamaha Mt-07. All the other all other bikes are 9k and above.
I don’t like the bug looking headlights. Is there mods out there to switch the headlight shape/look?
Just unbolt remove and fit whatever you like. I think twin round street fighter lights would look great on the hornet
I just want a 2023 Suzuki Sv650 in Dubai Black. Can't find one here in southern California
All the supposed Suzuki dealers have just one in blue and one in grey blah
Wht did you use AI to deepfake your voice in this video?
4:14 is the biggest example of it
Edit:
4:48 ujEEHHm -4:58 just sounds really really rough especially when he says "2000's" lol
Honda can't even make car that doesn't break down every five thousand miles. I'm sure their bikes are just as trashy.
??? I don’t think you’ve ever driven a honda 😂
My only problem with the gsx-8s in blue is that when I see it I expect it to be orange for some reason. I'm sure I will get over it.
cause ktm vibe?
I think it suits the bike tho, a poor man’s 890 duke 😁
2:20 sorry but the forks are garbage idk what you on about
He’s very bias. But I agree. The mt07 handling is shit. And very prone to tank slap
@@Illness.og. I mean i own one myself and it's the only thing I really dislike about the bike. especially going into turns as a 92kg dude
@@stuckinobamalow4559 the bikes just too damn light that’s the issue. You know how many countless videos I’ve seen of people crashing in the twisties with their mto7? Cause it’s TOO LIGHT, the weight of the bike helps stay planted at high speed turns but the mto7 is too light.
@@stuckinobamalow4559 to which the mto7 doesn’t have
I've got a 2004 Honda 919 hornet best do-it-all bike I've ever had and I've owned over 30 motorcycles . Bulletproof... light. . .quick and I paid $5,500 for it new.
Yam you keep taking shots at the zx4r don't think we don't notice
2:15 - The MT07 has 41mm upside down forks? Errr no it doesn't.
Well, the MT 07 sells for 8340€, the 8S for 8900€ and the Hornet for 7890€ (or 8545€ if you want the sports pack with the QS). Honda looks like the best Value for money, but it's just the spec sheet. Need to ride all of the once the 8S hits the Showroom floors in Germany 🤷🏼
No upside down forks on Yamaha MT07… why would you say that?
The amount of Effort Yammie Puts into Discouraging Honda Nerds, speaks volumes about Yammie’s Suppressed Sadistic Tendencies.
Btw HONDA Nerd Here.
Did we get confirmation the hornet is coming stateside?
I love variety, but if I had the choice the MT would be first then the Honda, Yamaha is just hot like that.
Prefer underbelly exhaust. Honda could easily lose 2 pounds by decreasing size of the ugly side mounted exhaust
Triumph 660 ?
I do love my MT07. But....I am selling it it get a GSXR 750. Gotta let my squid out. Lol
They make those in a 1000cc size. Didn't know if you knew or not.
Hornet always was 599 CC lightweight naked, why do you associate hornet name with 900 failure? They made 900 for only a few years, it was a commercial failure , while hornet 600 always sold well, had multiple generations. One of the most iconic honda naked bikes.
i feel like the Yamaha tdm850/900 were pretty far ahead of the curve with their engines... Crossplane I2 with 85hp.
They were great bikes but people failed to realise at the time. We were all buying gsxr cbr ninja and R1/R6 and missed out. The TDM had a real turn of speed around urban areas . And the torque was really something.
Why does the z650 suck?
Heyyy !!! where is the ktm 790 duke? It seems that Yammi avoids mentioning the true King of that category at all costs. the 790 Duke beats them all
You said Cyberpunk insect styling cues just come with the territory for naked bikes.......and..... that's unfortunate because it makes them look like crap IMO...What happened to the round-ish headlights of old?...I think they should make half fairings that had retro styling cues. Kawasaki GPZ 500 but more streamlined...Think Speed Triple 1200RR...but on the Yam...They're missing the mark in the market.
Changed from Yamaha fz07 to Suzuki 8s this year. Huge upgrade. Fz/mt series is outdated. Fun but outdated.
Wouldn't consider the 700cl-x sport worthy of taking part in this comparison?
Where's Triumph Speed triple ?
Probably in the shop getting another new wiring harness and software update.
To get petrol😬
in europe hornet -91,9 HP / 9500 RPM and 74.4 Nm / 7000RPM. MT07 - 73,4 HP/ 8750RPM and 67Nm/6500RPM GSX 8s- 83HP/8500RPM 78Nm/6800RPM
No Trident love???
This. I have the tiger version and it's never mentioned in comparisons.
Why are all these mid tier bikes naked?
I just got my new MT-07 2 days ago. 🎉 I am very pleased so far. Just taught myself how to ride it too. Never ridden before this.
Are these middleweights suitable beginner bikes?
Could be, especially with riding mods set on lower power output. But I'd recommend you go with either 125, 300 or 400cc bike.
the absolute highest I would go as a beginner would probably be the suzuki sv650; reliable, dirt cheap, just good specs
Oh god there's an AI version of Yammie Noob now
HEY HONDA put that 755 twin engine is a CBR style bike that weighs under 430lbs with a MSRP under 8500 and you'll sell a boat load of them.
I like the GSX8s the most , but would like to test ride MT09 & Z900
Time to ride the three back to back and come up with some conclusions.
Why does audio sounds slowed