TRIDENT 660 vs YAMAHA MT07 - Comprehensive Comparison

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  • @yammienoob
    @yammienoob  3 года назад +10

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      @popeyepunks1937 3 года назад +1

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    • @ChrisWolf75
      @ChrisWolf75 2 года назад +1

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  • @Timbo1969
    @Timbo1969 2 года назад +146

    There's a fix for the MT07 forks. The spacer is to long and the oil is to thin. Cut 10-15mm out of the spacer 15mm if your under 140lbs 10mm if over and put in some 20-30wt fork oil if over 200lbs 15wt if less. Credit to Dave Moss:)

    • @MrMcReeties
      @MrMcReeties 10 месяцев назад +1

      Thinking of getting an MT-07, being 6’2” 180. Only thing I’ve been worried about is the suspension everyone talks about, this info will come in handy I reckon.
      Thank you!

    • @rawcircoking
      @rawcircoking 3 месяца назад +1

      Dave moss

  • @zackarybrown6752
    @zackarybrown6752 3 года назад +129

    The truth is Yam is just a simp for his passions. Like we all are.

  • @vikhneshar104
    @vikhneshar104 3 года назад +63

    Yammie: you don't need Rain Mode for an 80hp bike
    Me afraid to say him there are 125cc bikes with rain mode in it

    • @leeinwis
      @leeinwis 3 месяца назад +1

      name them ?

  • @jeffrielley920
    @jeffrielley920 2 года назад +31

    As an older rider I'm no longer interested in choosing raucous over smooth. Odd that people are saying the Trident is more of a beginner or starter bike, when the far side of the bell curve showing age indicates that riders with the most years of experience are more likely to prefer the Trident. I'm not quite ready to get my motorcycle reviews from AARP, but I don't have a need to judge the value of a bike by its ability to wheelie.

    • @stilldajoker
      @stilldajoker Год назад +2

      Hello, I am an older rider also. My street riding started with a Yamaha R5. And you are spot on. Just because my 900 Eliminator made Santa Fe to Albuquerque in 27 minutes with my future wife as pillion ... fun memory but never again. Have a Trident in the garage --- my retirement bike. Got a nice 1976 Kaw 900 LTD for eye candy but that Triumph is great for my weight and abilities. 5'9" 162lbs. Fits perfect. Good luck.

    • @paradiddlesixix7530
      @paradiddlesixix7530 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@Tondaloona03 you make it sound like you are comparing a ducati to a royal enfield. half of the things that they like about the MT are negatives on any other bike (snatchy throttle and crap suspension). to say that the MT07 is hands down a better bike is kinda stupid. not to mention the yamaha looks like a pupating larva, and the triumph looks amazing.

  • @solvista7899
    @solvista7899 3 года назад +118

    I've had my Trident 660 since May, and I have to be honest... You definitely have to get it past the break in. Once past the break-in, the whole mapping and throttle feel is a world of difference. It really does come into it's own! I hope this helps a little.

    • @maximus9401
      @maximus9401 3 года назад +7

      The trident changes its mapping after break in? Is that an actual change or just a feeling?

    • @rickymahoney6664
      @rickymahoney6664 3 года назад +2

      Is that something that happens automatically or do you have to bring it in?

    • @pseugoat
      @pseugoat 3 года назад +17

      @@rickymahoney6664 you have to bring it in. I believe only the dealer has the ability to update the software. It also changes the shift warning light to a higher rpm.

    • @tronvoichoi2269
      @tronvoichoi2269 2 года назад +16

      Its true. After 3000km. Upgrade with Zard full system exhaust and mapping. Trident become the Beast. Less gas throttle delay. More 6 or 7 hp after that. Engine quite cooler. Alot of my friend feel the same and happy with it. Just dont give up on this Trident.

    • @kalromain8353
      @kalromain8353 2 года назад +9

      Agreed. I've had mine since June. The bike changes dramatically after breaking it in. It's a smooth ride under 5k rpm.. but very snappy and responsive at 5k and up.

  • @Yoss223
    @Yoss223 3 года назад +71

    I love my Trident, it's a bit harder to handle on low speed manuevers than mt07 - possibly due to firmer suspension on Triumph. Nonetheless it rips through corners lovely. The whine over 6k is just amazing, quickshifter adds to the experience, I love ripping it through the twisties. My only complaint is the same as Spite's - the cutout in the tank is just in the wrong place. I'm 6'0 and about 32 inch insem (european here so not sure if I did my math correctly). I could use higher pegs or simply different shape of the cutout. However once you ride it this doesn't bother you at all. The bike is amazing for beginners. Pulls from 2k RPM in the city like nothing, and the power curve is amazing. I would choose jt over the mt07 anytime. Michelin tires are awesome aswell. The mt07 is to snatchy on the throttle and Has wonky suspension. Still a lovely bike but I simply think the Trident wins in the category.

    • @stevenpuckitt212
      @stevenpuckitt212 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, it's a bit stiff on low speed maneuvers and with my short ass legs it makes it even harder. It's really my only complaint with the bike and I'm just short so I deal with it.

    • @Jay_Speed
      @Jay_Speed 2 года назад +2

      My experiences as well, see my comment above.

  • @shawnkislenger3024
    @shawnkislenger3024 3 года назад +11

    I like the classical music Yams uses because it's different from the generic rock or generic neo-hip hop everyone else uses.

  • @jamellionaire12
    @jamellionaire12 3 года назад +29

    Both are great, but the Trident styling has me leaning that way. Not to mention options like a quick shifter and Bluetooth connectivity (navigation) which I'd love to have on my bike. Can't go wrong either way though.

  • @zorak5890
    @zorak5890 3 года назад +2

    I’ve been waiting for this video!!!!

  • @MotobeatsTV
    @MotobeatsTV 3 года назад +1

    The video that we were all waiting for!!

  • @daveco1270
    @daveco1270 3 года назад +26

    The front end of the Yamaha reminds me of a giant bug. I don't like bugs...so I'd take the Triumph.

    • @rabbychan
      @rabbychan Год назад

      I'm okay with this desgin but the MT10 design is the stuff of nightmares, sooooooooooo ugly

  • @pralisk886
    @pralisk886 3 года назад +36

    Perfect timing! Was making my decision between the two this week and this was the final push I needed to go with the MT07!

    • @michaelgriffin1601
      @michaelgriffin1601 3 года назад +1

      I have a 2020 mt07 and i FUCKING LOVE MY BIKE! Its so frickin fun to ride, good choice for the money. Get an r6 throttle tube with a grip on it, shorter throw, makes such a big difference along with taking away just a little throttle freeplay, totally changes the feel especially on downshift blips. Got an rsc clutch and the clutch pull is so light and smooth.

    • @robsantiago8251
      @robsantiago8251 3 года назад

      @@michaelgriffin1601 im getting a new bike soon. And I’m leaning towards the mto7. I know it’s not all about speed but I want something pretty fast that I can get the hang of without feeling unimpressed or that I’ll die on the back of it

    • @AndreBrah
      @AndreBrah 3 года назад +1

      @@robsantiago8251 go with it, i got mine a year ago, its such a fun bike to ride it stamps a smile on your face every time, the sound of it can be enjoyable after 4k rpm even with the stock massive exhaust, if you get a full akrapovic the sound is simply the best out of the 650cc naked bikes.
      Theres no way you will regret the mt07, very solid and well put together bike

    • @naturalforlife6741
      @naturalforlife6741 2 года назад +1

      I bought my MT07 3 days ago and just love it. I've had a 675 Street Triple and loved it for over 6 years. I was really torn between these bikes but I didn't want with another euro bike. Parts for the MT07 are so readily available and less expensive.

  • @matt7984
    @matt7984 3 года назад +1

    BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

  • @jackgirote9132
    @jackgirote9132 3 года назад +25

    Love my Trident. I heavily considered the MT-07 in my shopping. I had to go with the Trident though, Brand new model, good looking retro styling, and the triple engine. I wanted to stand out from the crowd, I got the crystal white. I think it does everything pretty well. I don't think you can go wrong with either the MT-07, Trident, or SV650. I would still pick the trident though, such class...

    • @stevenpuckitt212
      @stevenpuckitt212 3 года назад +1

      I got the diablo. It's such a good looking design. So clean.

    • @JDB505
      @JDB505 Год назад +1

      I was in the same boat, I narrowed it down to a trident or an MT07.
      I went the other way though and got the MT. I'll admit I was biased though, because I did my motorcycle training on MT07s, and I just loved them the moment I got on them.
      Tried a kawasaki of the same engine size and hated it immediately...
      It was just something about the light weight, instant torque that I got on with I think.

    • @dymian666
      @dymian666 11 месяцев назад

      I learn to drive on yamaha, but im getting trident, love this bike!

  • @puga4608
    @puga4608 Год назад +3

    Was an MT07 headlight hater at first but they've grown so much on me! Love them now 🙌

  • @scottbroughton3847
    @scottbroughton3847 Год назад

    Most thorough reviews on RUclips. Thanks!

  • @brendanroe3946
    @brendanroe3946 3 года назад +3

    My 2018 MT-07 just rolled over 17,000 miles and I’m still loving it! Just wish it had cruise control.

  • @2WheelWeekendViking
    @2WheelWeekendViking 3 года назад +25

    Wahoo! The review we’ve been waiting for! Next please do RS 660 vs R7🤞🏻🤞🏻

    • @love2fight205
      @love2fight205 2 года назад +1

      Yam daddy is gonna worship the aprilia for no good reason and declare it the winner because they probably pay him to say it’s the best motorcycle ever made. The R7 may get “It’s a decent bike, lacking on power. Ergos are decent. Price is ok. Back to the Aprilia.”

  • @basedgigachad6606
    @basedgigachad6606 3 года назад +10

    Papa Yam mentioning how many fucking Daytonas he's owned never fails to make me laugh.
    FIVE time Daytona owner by the way LOL.

  • @SarfarazAhmad89
    @SarfarazAhmad89 3 года назад

    This is very well done !

  • @TestingTesting1
    @TestingTesting1 3 года назад +3

    Great review. Been riding for over twenty years and reckon MT is the best bike I’ve ever had. Guaranteed grin every ride!

  • @micaelabrown9820
    @micaelabrown9820 2 года назад +1

    Love being the exact same size as yammie, perfect for trying to figure out whether I’ll fit on a bike nice or not

  • @JMArm97
    @JMArm97 3 года назад +36

    Triumph's styling is clear

    • @ChrisWolf75
      @ChrisWolf75 3 года назад +6

      My wife and I literally own both these bikes. Mines the triumph 660 and hers is the MT07 but we switch often. I agree the Triumph is the superior of the two in styling and is a much more refined motorcycle. I like both these bikes but I disagree with Yam and Spites statement that the Triumph isn't as "playful" as the Yamaha. We bought the MT07 because we got a super great deal but the Triumph was the better bang for the buck out of the two in my opinion because of all the standard equipment and electronics. The 660 is every bit as "fun" and "playful" as the MT07 and Yam and Spite are wrong on this one in my humble opinion.

    • @CutTheKam
      @CutTheKam 3 года назад +2

      @@ChrisWolf75 thats weird

    • @ChrisWolf75
      @ChrisWolf75 2 года назад +1

      kameron holloway what's weird about it?

    • @CutTheKam
      @CutTheKam 2 года назад

      @@ChrisWolf75 that you experienced similar if not the same amount of fun on the triumph and they didn’t. was the one you rode serviced? maybe the ride by wire throttle opened up after it was broken in?

    • @jackgirote9132
      @jackgirote9132 2 года назад +2

      @@CutTheKam I think yami guys don't think refinement is fun. The MT-07 is less refined, more raw. To them its more fun. I own the Trident by the way, I love the refinement. Its such an complete package, well thought out for the majority of riders. Unfortunately Yami just wants to be a hoonigan.

  • @ahunterohio
    @ahunterohio 2 года назад +6

    Mt07 is def going to be my first choice for a bike however one thing to keep in mind. You guys knock the z650 and other bikes for being "boring" but like the mt07 because of reason that some starter riders to not go with (bad suspension and too snappy throttle). Maybe a bike like the z or triumph and other "boring" bikes may be better for starters because they are smoother to learn on. Gotta keep in mind guys. You guys have years and many bikes worth of experience while other creators may recommend a more boring starter bike because of learning and can then grow into an mt07 or a sport bike. Just food for thought

  • @perpetual98
    @perpetual98 3 года назад +16

    I love how Spite just can't bring himself to even hint that he might like anything about the Trident in any video he's on it.
    *EDIT* I guess that's not a completely fair statement, but as someone who bought a Trident, he seems against it more so than other bikes.

    • @relaxingdrives6075
      @relaxingdrives6075 3 года назад

      That’s because he doesn’t own one. He has no interest and is honest when compared to the wide range of bikes he gets to ride

    • @stevenpuckitt212
      @stevenpuckitt212 3 года назад +1

      Given he finds the bike cramped that isn't terribly surprising. He isn't into it even when it's off. As a 5ft 3in dude I find the Trident extremely comfortable, albeit a little too tall.

    • @love2fight205
      @love2fight205 2 года назад

      @@stevenpuckitt212 I was halfway tempted to consider thinking about buying the Trident, but when Spite sat on it and he said it was very cramped an uncomfortable for him that was a deal breaker for me. I’m 6’4 with quite long legs, so it wouldn’t work for me.
      Funny story, I went to a dealership and sat on a Honda 50cc dirtbike and my legs were so long I had to spread them out because they were above the handle bars, and I wasn’t coming anywhere close to being able to shift or use the rear brake. I was so so sad about that for the longest time because I wanted one so bad.

    • @mozeby1975
      @mozeby1975 2 года назад +2

      The worst part was when he complained about his feet getting caught up on the pegs. I got size 14 boots and have no problem whatsoever so it looks like the guy is just looking for shit to complain about.

  • @ryanazariah5148
    @ryanazariah5148 2 года назад +2

    Ty for this, yous had me considering the trident, but the MT is Def what I want.

  • @oretako
    @oretako 3 года назад +1

    I ride my cb125r for a year, done 6000miles. Now I got the trident and I love it. Everything is controlable... Only a few little things to pick on.

  • @AmenCornerRider
    @AmenCornerRider 2 года назад

    Great comparison Vid!! What audio set up are you using to hear both of you so clearly? Thanks

  • @paulconnell1309
    @paulconnell1309 2 года назад +2

    Fun review, thanks. Three questions. If you bought an MT07 would you get a new cartridge for the front forks? Seems to be the main let down? Secondly, did you get to really push either bike around tight corners? Finally, where I live the Suzuki GSX S750 is the same prices as the base Trident. Any chance of reviewing this as an option? Thanks

  • @vijaysohal1575
    @vijaysohal1575 2 года назад +1

    Damn nice review. now i know what bike to get.❤️

  • @jimgordon3468
    @jimgordon3468 3 года назад +3

    Don't listen to these two idiots. These are NOT beginner bikes. 75 and 80 hp respectfully. Get a USED 250 to 500cc bike.
    I own a brand new Trident. It is stupid fast. It's probably my 30th bike. I also currently have a tiger 1200 XCA for the long trips. The pros of the trident, ABS, traction control, throttle by wire, the looks. The sound, TFT screen, 2 ride modes. it shifts perfectly, crisp..Bluetooth connectivity, $8200. the cons, the seat sucks, the engine produces a ton of heat. The mirrors suck, handlebars are tight. They need to be wider. They need bar risers too. No other complaints. It's so much fun on the very twisty roads of northeast Pennsylvania.

  • @cmdrratzass7305
    @cmdrratzass7305 3 года назад +8

    When in doubt, get an SV 650. There’s a reason they are building those since 1999.
    And it even saves you some bucks, which you can then spend on pizza and ice cream.

    • @jshumphress13
      @jshumphress13 3 года назад +1

      Love my 2018 SV. Did a couple mods, but for my purpose, it checks all the boxes. Don’t care about a TFT display on my toy.

    • @Fearless154
      @Fearless154 3 года назад +2

      As much as I don't like Suzuki I kinda have to agree on this one. It's just a perfect balance between fun and usability in a really solid chassis.

    • @Fearless154
      @Fearless154 3 года назад

      @Richard Hart Nah you're over pushing gsxr suck.

    • @stuartmoles843
      @stuartmoles843 3 года назад

      Exactly, tried both these two and still ended up buying a SV, just a fantastic bike with bags of character, 3 year warranty and a big cash saving.

  • @RyanJM76
    @RyanJM76 3 года назад +2

    I have a 2020 MT07 and it’s cheap and fun I paid $8k out the door for mine last year and was money well spent. Never got to do exhaust yet but the R6 throttle tube was the best mode yet. No extra power but a lot less twist to get the power.

  • @panosnen
    @panosnen 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the ergo checks mates, I'm 6'5'' and comfort is always the first thing in mind when looking at bikes...

  • @Mr3andrew3
    @Mr3andrew3 Год назад

    Spent the past 2.5 years in South America, nice to see u running through Austin. Coming back this March- and get my MT 07- Thanks, *A.

  • @martind349
    @martind349 3 года назад +6

    I remember roll-on, the cold, sticky white ball and exaggerated sense of self-awareness.

  • @jimradel3953
    @jimradel3953 2 года назад +2

    I rode both of these bikes on the Angeles Crest Highway and then up to Monterey. The suspension on the Trident was much much better. In the twisties I didn’t get that nose dive and always seemed to be in the right gear. I agree with the video, the Yamaha is much more herky jerky. Both were very good lane splitting, actually fun.

  • @klaymormusic931
    @klaymormusic931 3 года назад +3

    13:20 - 13:30 would you say that on the Triumph you have to try for that extra umph? tank you tank you everybody, I'll be here all week. Jokes aside, great content guys

  • @fjls69
    @fjls69 3 года назад +3

    My boy spite with the foot down turn at 18:09.
    Sheeeesh

  • @Rodrigo.Almeida93
    @Rodrigo.Almeida93 Год назад +3

    Suspension and brakes should always be tuned according to rider's weight and preferences.
    Great review!

  • @miself5709
    @miself5709 3 года назад +1

    19:50-20:20 You just stated why I still love riding my Sportster even after having my Z900. Different feel, but both still so fun to ride!!

  • @CarloPentel
    @CarloPentel 3 года назад

    For my XSR7 i just tuned to the front forks with the fluid and it fixed the wonkiness and feel..so good carving now. I totally get the wrestling the bike part and getting the gnarly feel riding it. Really gives me hooligan giggles everytime 😅

  • @defaultuser3410
    @defaultuser3410 3 года назад +2

    I have a 2020 MT 07, and was waiting for you to use the word I use to best describe it, and you did at the end: Raucous.

    • @michaelgriffin1601
      @michaelgriffin1601 3 года назад +1

      Best bike ive ever owned, dont think ill ever get rid of mine. Makes you want to be a hooligan lol

    • @AndreBrah
      @AndreBrah 3 года назад

      @@michaelgriffin1601 yesyesyes, thats exactly it, the effortless ease it can whip baby wheelies in second gear, the sound with a nice akrapovic on, its just pure emotion and fun.

  • @jorgebarbera
    @jorgebarbera 2 года назад +2

    “This (Trident) is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster (MT-07). An elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.” -Obi Yam Kenobi

  • @budgetlife4998
    @budgetlife4998 2 года назад

    Definitely the yam forme, so simple but soooo much fun bike ✌️👌

  • @paulpaul1429
    @paulpaul1429 2 года назад +4

    Yammie would it be possible to do a Trident before and after ecu flash comparision. It would be interesting to see how much effect it has especially in the lower gears.

  • @M1100go
    @M1100go 3 года назад

    thanks for coming to a conclusion 👍 i thought this was another "both great - cant compare - video"

  • @coreynaimark8369
    @coreynaimark8369 3 года назад +1

    I just picked up my first bike a few weeks ago the xsr700 and I was debating between that and the trident. I love the Yamaha and it looks like I made the right decision

  • @speedyspeedyi
    @speedyspeedyi 2 года назад

    Hi yam, having owned a few mt07s did you have any reliability issues, I've read that engine issues are common ,swingarm rust, electrical gremlins and cut outs. Are any of these issues common? Thanks you, and thanks for the vids

  • @stjimis
    @stjimis 3 месяца назад +1

    Very nice video one again you should also do a comparison between cb650 r and trident 660 I love bong and don’t know which to pick

  • @nightster15
    @nightster15 7 месяцев назад

    Got the trident back in April after riding Harley’s all my life. Right at 6’ and I feel very comfortable. Yoshimura pipe and over 15,000 miles, some from IA to CA an back to IA. Amazing bike. Highly recommend. Very versatile.

  • @trextexting
    @trextexting 3 года назад +12

    Alot of the complaints on the Trident are true.....DURING THE BREAK IN PERIOD.... I noticed the one you are using is still in that mode. I have one and once I hit that 1k km mark, the bike just opened up. No more weird "strain" on the RPMs like its holding itself back. At 1k km the RPM stopped flashing on the speedo and it felt like a completely different bike. It was like someone took the choke collar off. The whine was now there and lept through the RPMS making using the quickshifter a joy..... so please Yams...give it another shot AFTER the ( i think) 600 mile mark when the gauge stops flashing. Something unlocks in that machine and its a blast to ride now.

    • @anonym3017
      @anonym3017 3 года назад

      it has a special map for the running in period specifically so that the engine can actually run itself in instead of getting it's full performance taken immediately.
      same as a C8 corvette.

    • @trextexting
      @trextexting 3 года назад +4

      @@anonym3017 yes its really odd and quite frankly off-putting while I was in that time so I have complete sympathy for those that tried it or have it during that mode...cause ...ugh... It was like it was struggling all the time and did not want to go past 5k RPM ( the bike..not me) I was not expecting such a change when I hit the 1k mark but man was that a game changer and a solidifying reassurance I got the right bike :)

    • @anonym3017
      @anonym3017 3 года назад +3

      @@trextexting yeah it doesn't want to go past 5k because you aren't supposed to take it to super high revs during break in.
      and you also aren't supposed to demand full power from it at any rpm.
      so triumph puts in a second map that is active until the running in period is complete which puts a soft limit on RPMs and limits torque to 70 os so percent at all RPMs.
      with the upside being that youir engine gets properly run in and will live quite a bit longer than if itr weren't properly run in.
      again. It's the same stuff as on a C8 corvette for exactly the same purpose.
      it even says that in the manual.

    • @yammienoob
      @yammienoob  3 года назад +2

      Doubt - the engine doesn't have the straight cut gears so it won't whine and whistle like a 675. Our points still stand

    • @1985GusT
      @1985GusT 3 года назад

      @@yammienoob Truth. It’s mechanical noise due to straight cut gears which the Trident doesn’t have. It’s not just going to appear after break in. If that was the case the other triples would react the same way which they don’t.

  • @thefinalcountdown19
    @thefinalcountdown19 3 года назад +16

    As someone whose about 5'6" on a good day I would appreciate you guys having someone a tad shorter on these bikes during comparisons! Not the end of the world, but man the mental gymanstics of trying to figure out how someone 6" taller than me fits compared to me is hard sometimes lolol

    • @thierryfaquet7405
      @thierryfaquet7405 2 года назад +1

      I’m 6’6’’ and there is one really easy solution to this problem. Just jump on the bike you are interested in…
      Your dealer will be mooooore than happy to let you try.

    • @thefinalcountdown19
      @thefinalcountdown19 2 года назад

      @@thierryfaquet7405 the main issue is that most bikes I do have to physically jump onto lol there’s no swinging a leg over from down here

    • @dp01
      @dp01 Год назад +2

      You can handle them both you will be able to touch with both balls of your feet. If not put right foot on brake and flat foot the left. I'm 5'7

    • @carloraycamado3010
      @carloraycamado3010 Год назад

      I'm 5'5". you'll be ok with either.. chose the MT07 😊 for all the pts they mentioned on the video

  • @jacobwiebe1460
    @jacobwiebe1460 2 года назад +4

    So I decided to make my bike faster so, I bought a gym membership.

  • @03Grunt-arrino
    @03Grunt-arrino 3 года назад

    Really wanna see you ride (& hopefully wheelie) on the new HD Sportster S.

  • @briansteele2723
    @briansteele2723 3 года назад

    In amongst all those pickups and Japanese cars both bikes looked pretty cool design objects to be honest. Here ing France lead times on nee bikes are bad after covid but Triumph are treating their clients to free accessories if delayed which is nice

  • @SHOCKPROOFX
    @SHOCKPROOFX 2 года назад +3

    Great video! My heart goes to TT660!

  • @stanleyblazeraznik6047
    @stanleyblazeraznik6047 2 года назад +1

    I am a mature rider who purchased a Trident for some fun. It is a blast with the Quickshifter but certainly could use some additional low end torque. As an entry level bike you could do worse. Anyone above that skill level will want more. I plan on selling it and I shall purchase a XSR900. Just waiting to see what this XSR GP is going to be all about. BTW…XSR900 comes with a QS and cruise control which is a tad odd, but OK.

  • @paulpaul1429
    @paulpaul1429 Год назад +1

    I was gonna get an MT07 but my brother said he'll give me his trident when he upgrades to an MT-09. Im hyped the trident is such a sick bike too.

  • @blocktimj
    @blocktimj 2 года назад +1

    Just wondering if you guys have tried the Dave Moss fix for the stock suspension on any of the MT07s you've had? Highly considering buying one if the solution really is that simple. Thanks for all the content.

    • @fcu423
      @fcu423 2 года назад

      Can you share a link or more info?
      What is that mode about?

    • @simonepecoretti3690
      @simonepecoretti3690 Год назад

      I did that and it has worked very well, 1.2 cm and oil w20, plus moved the forks up by 8 mm

  • @zef2stroke655
    @zef2stroke655 3 года назад +2

    Pleeeeease get that new sportster, so glad harley finally going liquid colled and over head cams, finally a harley worth owning

  • @djsangre
    @djsangre 3 года назад +2

    I don’t know man, everyone says the MT-07 is awesome, but I had a 2009 Street Triple 675 R (round lights) matte grey with no electronics and you can find a preowned one for cheap and that’s light years better than both the Trident and the Yamaha even if older (fully adjustable suspension, radial brakes)… but watch out: the restyled “drop” lights is softened and dull due to a different gear spacing.

  • @shegocrazy
    @shegocrazy 3 года назад +6

    The Triumph is just classier. Performance difference is immaterial.
    (PS) Spike looks better on the Triumph.

    • @martinmackye9865
      @martinmackye9865 2 года назад

      Apparently dudes name is Spite..... who knew?

  • @reindef1747
    @reindef1747 3 года назад +1

    would the mt-07 be appropriate for long highway miles?

  • @DG-ig4wj
    @DG-ig4wj 3 года назад +2

    Are your competitions open to the UK? Or strictly US

    • @wetzel1628
      @wetzel1628 3 года назад

      They only ship motorcycles in the US

  • @Davfull
    @Davfull 2 года назад +6

    Do you think it is worth buying a 2021 MT07 at this point, or do you think Yamaha will update the suspension for the 2022 lineup to better compete with the Trident 660?

    • @jamiepoole5193
      @jamiepoole5193 2 года назад

      This is the reason i am holding back on a new MT7. Dont want to mess about with suspension on a new bike, no matter how good the motor is

    • @Dave-qq4lh
      @Dave-qq4lh 2 года назад +1

      Might as well get an older one and look into the suspension. Replacing the fork oil for a thicker one will help quite a bit alone. Just search Dave Moss mt07.

  • @saxon1177
    @saxon1177 2 года назад +5

    I still have my 15', FZ-07. Yamaha hit a sweet spot with the engine, it has the perfect combination of torque and power down in most of the range, it's all about the engine with this bike and you can't stop having fun with it. It's true, other bikes might have better this or that but it's the engine that makes a bike fun. Just stop wondering and get an MT-07 ... turn that frown upside down.

    • @izzy8609
      @izzy8609 2 года назад

      Have you noticed rust on the swingarm? or any issue with the coolant hoses? Those have been the main issues I've read about the fit and finish. Other than that it seems to be a good bike.

    • @wash.625
      @wash.625 Год назад +1

      @@izzy8609 yea I got a 2018 model got a bit of rust on swingarm and on coolant hoses white spots it is unavoidable unless you spray it with wd or something often

    • @haruhakushaku2441
      @haruhakushaku2441 Год назад

      😢😢

    • @haruhakushaku2441
      @haruhakushaku2441 Год назад

      @@izzy8609 😮😮😮

    • @izzy8609
      @izzy8609 Год назад

      @@wash.625 Honestly it seems unavoidable on most bikes regardless of manufacturer, I've heard of it on showroom fresh Hondas all the way to 15 thousand dollar ducatis. it just seems to be the way things happen. manufacturers have gotten lazy with their fit and finish department in modern times it would seem.

  • @brandonloukota4760
    @brandonloukota4760 3 года назад +2

    Remember when the trident got announced and papa yam thought it was the best thing since sliced bread? Put it at the top of the list of 650’s before it even came out lol

    • @EhdrianEh
      @EhdrianEh 3 года назад

      I'm glad he's not shy to love it when he saw it and then give an honest review after he went for a ride.

  • @motormuttldn
    @motormuttldn 3 года назад +1

    Would you ship giveaway bikes to the UK and does YN MOTO ship worldwide?

    • @danytheunicorn95
      @danytheunicorn95 3 года назад

      unfortunately no, they only give bikes to people who live in America

  • @greatestsuccessstoryofalltime
    @greatestsuccessstoryofalltime 2 года назад +1

    Heres a request for a future video: Put a $200 tune on the Trident then remake this video. Everyone knows the Trident has been nurtured from birth out of the factory, just don’t know how much. we want to know what it’s capable of out of the box if you simply rework the mapping.
    I’ve had a Trident for about 4 months and I was already thinking about my next bike. Until i put a $200 DNK tune on it. never, I repeat never, has a tune changed the character of a bike like it does with the trident. Utterly different machine and it’s a blast to ride. I think even you will be surprised with how much torque limiting and ‘smoothing’ they’ve done at the factory.
    Need you to make it happen. Game on!

    • @jmanuel722
      @jmanuel722 2 года назад

      Hey, that’s good to know! Would the tune void the warranty? I’m a newer rider and I bought a Trident. I’d be willing to to tune once I’d like some more pazzaz from her.

  • @808islandlife_HI
    @808islandlife_HI 3 года назад +1

    So which bike would take the "so perfect it's boring" crown - the Trident or CB650R?

  • @Firestorm637
    @Firestorm637 2 года назад +2

    Yamaha on every corner. Triumph a premium, exclusive bike. Nothing like a triple, torque of V2 and horsepower similar in line four. A taste of both. Yamaha is a great product but European pulls on my heart strings. Like comparing a corvette to a Lambo. They both do the same thing but one is more of an adventure.

  • @AdityaSingh-jv3cp
    @AdityaSingh-jv3cp 3 года назад +8

    Here in india they give a 30bhp bike, a rain mode and a track mode😂😂

    • @jesselopez0008
      @jesselopez0008 3 года назад +1

      Haha stupid TVS marketing gimic

    • @umerkhan4818
      @umerkhan4818 2 года назад

      @@jesselopez0008 EVEN A 20 BHP BIKE FROM TVS HAS IT RTR 200 4V

  • @Naraku150
    @Naraku150 2 года назад

    I have been wanting to get into motorcycles for awhile since my dad used to ride and he LOVED it. Yamaha and Honda have been the two brands I have been eyed and this MT07 been look sexy. ANd I drive a Camry for a car so I dont want a nice family sedan in bike form. lol

  • @mchiola
    @mchiola 3 года назад +4

    You hated the on off of the z650... loved it on the mt07?

  • @paulfay2741
    @paulfay2741 2 года назад

    I was trusting the multiple reviews stating the Trident was the better bike but then I saw them in person and the MT just looked and sounded so much better. Trident is refined but the MT is more streetwise.

  • @v17v17v
    @v17v17v 3 года назад +3

    finally this comparison. was looking at mt 07 for quite a while, actually want a sports bike but 600 cc are to powerful and aprilia to expensive....

    • @brandonloukota4760
      @brandonloukota4760 3 года назад +1

      Why not the ninja?

    • @lunoirxx
      @lunoirxx 3 года назад +2

      There's the Yamaha R7, Honda CBR650R, and the Kawasaki Ninja 650.

    • @v17v17v
      @v17v17v 3 года назад

      I dont like ninja. I am thinking about r 7 but depends on the price

    • @michaelgriffin1601
      @michaelgriffin1601 3 года назад +2

      My 2020 mt07 is sooooo fun to ride, so much low end torque thats useable without ringing the rpms out. Engine is so smooth and sounds amazing. I ride it around twisty colorado mountain twisties all the time and i think it handles just fine unless youre some sort of track purest. It wheelies so easy. Perfect ergonomics in between comfort and aggressive, can still get aggressive with the big tank cutouts. Such a good everyday bike that is just fun af to ride. Would highly recommend, unless youre tracking it the suspension seems just fine to me. Power curve is so linear, very easy bike to ride at any skill level. Idk how the 2021 has a jurky throttle? My 2020 is so smooth on and off, wierd to hear that.

    • @v17v17v
      @v17v17v 3 года назад

      @@michaelgriffin1601 thanks for that answer. People on yt scare me a bit coz of a suspension....they say it is soft or that it has strange feeling. I think it is the best option. Now i have duke 390, i upgeade to mt 07 2018 or more for one year and than i think i will buy aprilia rs 660 for a longer time. What do you think is it worth buying new motorcycle like r7 for year or two. I dont want to loose to much money on it

  • @JohnDoe-mi3vc
    @JohnDoe-mi3vc 3 года назад +1

    OC! Which do I like more the MT07 or the Trident? Put it this way I totaled my 2017 FZ07 and took the insurance money and purchased a 2009 Ducati Monster 1200. I'm currently in the processes of selling or trading with a cash kicker the Ducati so I can ride a FZ/MT07 again. The bike is just too much fun to not ride one.

  • @matt7984
    @matt7984 3 года назад +2

    I'm debating between these two or a step up to the GSX S750.
    Currently on an ER6N and wondering if these two will feel like an upgrade or more of a lateral move

    • @Kitchenappliance996
      @Kitchenappliance996 3 года назад +1

      Having ridden the ER6N, Z650, CB650R, MT07 during lessons & owning a SV650. I feel like if you've owned an ER6N for a prolonged amount of time, you probably feel like it might be lacking a little on the highway as well. It runs fairly high in the RPM's in sixth gear going 70mph. I think an upgrade to a gsxs750 would be a great idea, I've heard it's ergonomic & Steers very light. An upgrade to a 900cc would be good as well. Like a z900.
      The ER6N and Z650 feel identical.
      In comparison with the MT07, the ER6N feels underwhelming, a bit underpowered, suspension is better in corners though. Clutch pull is amazing on the ER6N, however I feel like the left foot gear pedal feels a bit weird, like it's a tad too far away.
      I can't give my two cents on the triumph trident. However I can tell from the engine difference between CB650R & ER6N that an inline 4 will perform a lot better on stretches of highway, especially the vibrations.

    • @matt7984
      @matt7984 3 года назад +1

      @@Kitchenappliance996 wow that's actually really helpful, thanks. I've considered going 900 but not sure if I need thaat much power and it's another insurance class up so I'm hoping 750 will be perfect. Definitely have to ride one but leaning heavily toward the GSX S750, thanks man!

    • @Kitchenappliance996
      @Kitchenappliance996 3 года назад

      @@matt7984 anytime! In that case, if I were you. I'd totally go for the gsx s750. I'd imagine 115HP inline 4 sounds about perfect to perform everything well. A jump from 650 to another 650 won't be a huge difference.
      I'm considering a secondhand gsxs750 as well :) enjoy!

  • @MasaKillzAll
    @MasaKillzAll 3 года назад +4

    I was worried when you talked about the lack luster changes for this bike in your last video but I'm happy to hear its still fun even if the suspension needs an upgrade.
    Also Idk what's wrong with me but I love the look of bikes everyone else seem to hate. 390 duke? Gorgeous, 21 mt-07 come here you beautiful cyclops. 😂😂

  • @dcasandman
    @dcasandman 2 года назад

    Shopping both, but trident is so much sexier. I can just look at it. Love what you say about Throttle on mt07.

  • @gabrielrivera3112
    @gabrielrivera3112 3 года назад +1

    I would like to see an MT-09/ Z900 comparison. These two bikes I am looking at carefully and would like your non-bias Yamaha simp opinions. Also, more content relating to second bike ownership.

  • @pedropauli5018
    @pedropauli5018 3 года назад +1

    What about shaking? does the mt07 shake a lot in higher rpms?

    • @musguelha14
      @musguelha14 3 года назад

      No, it's a very smooth engine.

  • @Mytwistedvoices
    @Mytwistedvoices 2 года назад

    Did Yammy choose the MT07? I just bought the Trident. That’s another bike he “recommended “ I chosen not to get. Keep the content coming!

  • @stubbingtonmarigold3032
    @stubbingtonmarigold3032 3 года назад

    Is the xsr700 suspension better?

  • @LHP-Engineering
    @LHP-Engineering 3 года назад +1

    Nice one! Could you please also do a comparison between the Yamaha MT-07 and the Husqvarna Vitpilen 701?

    • @getty6974
      @getty6974 3 года назад

      I'd say rather the svartpilen for similar ergos as mt-07 and tbh they have one in the shop (Whitneys)

    • @at9670
      @at9670 2 года назад

      Do you want to ride a lot? Buy the mt07, while the husky is a proper flamin weekend toy.
      I wouldn't trust their reliability.

  • @ravenreader4772
    @ravenreader4772 3 года назад

    I hope you do an exhaust and tune on the Trident.

  • @GoFast605
    @GoFast605 3 года назад

    I ride the 21 mt09. Being a bigger guy... 09 is fantastic. Interested to see the info you have on the 07

  • @MrFurley69
    @MrFurley69 2 года назад

    I ride my xsr900 in standard, because A mode is too twitchy over bumps, and use standard in the rain as well.

  • @cuannell2143
    @cuannell2143 3 года назад +3

    I wish Yamaha didn't change the front light so much, that's Just opinion, it's still nice but I prefer the old one

    • @cmdrratzass7305
      @cmdrratzass7305 3 года назад

      They should have given it the face of the previous generation of the MT-09. Still the best looking face I have ever seen on a bike imho. I don’t understand why they got rid of it with the new generation.

    • @ZSmith-yy4lv
      @ZSmith-yy4lv 3 года назад

      @@cmdrratzass7305 while the looks are debatable, the new headlight definitely performs better.

  • @reptilesgamers00
    @reptilesgamers00 2 года назад +1

    23:09 roll on

  • @ryanrowley5717
    @ryanrowley5717 3 года назад +2

    Been going back and forth between these two for my first bike. I think the mt07 is gonna be the one. Thanks for this comparison guys. 🤙🏻

    • @riccardoliboa556
      @riccardoliboa556 3 года назад +1

      I got my 2021 mt-07 and I’m really loving it. When you crank it up it’s just brute and when you come out of corners you can’t do anything but love her and smile

  • @streetie4877
    @streetie4877 Год назад

    We don’t have the MT07 here in India. Rumours are that we might get the R7 and the MT09 here by year end, but not the MT07. Plus it’s gonna be imported as CBU so it will possibly cost as much as a Street Triple R here. I have booked a Trident. I liked it over both Z650/RS and the CB650. Tuono is just crazy expensive here (more expensive than Street Triple RS, Ducati Monster and F900R!!) . In markets outside the US, we have to weigh the reviews here against the very real cost considerations in our market.
    Expecting delivery of the Trident next month and truly thrilled.

  • @j0ee09
    @j0ee09 Год назад

    I’m looking into getting a bike! I’ve always wanted a bike when I was a lot younger and I’ve always gravitated towards a classy looking bike! The triumph is a very good looking bike! And for minute in this video I really considered it. But for a couple of years my interest in bikes slowly faded away (I thought it was just an age thing) until I saw John wick on that mt09 I was like “what the hell is that thing” needless to say I remembered why my interest peaked again and it’s all due to the Yamaha mt09. Although I won’t be getting that as a beginner bike 😂😂😂 plus I’m 6’3 so it seems like a fun comfy ride! Yamaha mt07 is definitely going to be my bike!

  • @Ricardo-kv5tk
    @Ricardo-kv5tk 3 года назад +3

    Got myself the mt-07 last week couldn’t be happier with my first bike

    • @exactation724
      @exactation724 3 года назад

      First time ever ? Or you’ve ridden before

  • @mathieusimard9950
    @mathieusimard9950 3 года назад +3

    I can’t believe yamaha haven’t fixed the pogo stick front end :(

    • @MrGrattou
      @MrGrattou 3 года назад

      There were 2 things to fix. The suspension and the seat. They fixed neither. :(

  • @travissearles23
    @travissearles23 3 года назад +3

    I get more compliments on my black 2019 MT-07 then any other bike I've ever had! Plus it's the most fun!

  • @Cielzerozx004
    @Cielzerozx004 2 года назад +4

    So its like a Gentleman vs Hooligan huh? I just want to cruise and take it easy so trident for me then.

  • @jamesgozzo7860
    @jamesgozzo7860 2 года назад

    not going to lie i was pretty sold on the trident but i’ve been on dirt bikes since i was 3 and have been on 350s and 450s for the past 4 years which is the higher end of the power spectrum and the yamaha just seems more fun with that similar agro silly factor