Disney is race-swapping again. And people are upset about it... again.
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Disney is remaking the beloved Snow White movie and bringing it to life. But it might have already died before it even came out because everyone already hates it lol. There's a lot about it that people don't like, but today I wanted to talk about the actress playing Snow White, Rachel Zegler. People are calling this another race-swapped disaster, because Rachel has Columbian heritage, and people don't believe she's fit to play Snow White. Today I want to revisit the video I made almost a year ago and talk about some things about "blackwashing" and "whitewashing" that I didn't think about before, as well as give more criticisms and opinions of the many race swaps we have going on, and whether or not it truly represents POC and minorities.
tags: snow white trailer, snow white live action, rachel zegler, halle bailey, wish, BLM, black, African American, psychology, internet analysis, video essay, analysis video, philosophy, the little mermaid, movie reviews, movie analysis, race swapping, ethnicity, Queen Charlotte, Velma, TMNT, film industry, racial inclusivity
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Honestly, my main problem with Live Action remakes is that, they're not really needed. For example, Disney's Little Mermaid is about 30 years old, which for a movie in not that old, so why did they remake it? Also, my even bigger problem with those remakes is that they really don't add anything valuable to the story and overall experience, and they lowkey push animated media aside, even tho animation is a much more flexible medium for both short and long film.
Also, in terms of movies, series ect. that aren't souless cash grabs, have diversity, and are still for younger audience, here's a list [note; not all of those movies etc. came out yet, but I do think that they're worth following their development] :
Jentry Chau vs The Underworld, Iyanu Child of Wonder, Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur, Owl House, Amphibia, Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeastes.
I agree. I think theyre remaking these things because no one is going to the movies anymore. They get the highest earnings out of remakes because the adults wanna see if for themselves and those with kids wanna show their kids (share in the fairytale magic they know with their kids). This is just personal guess on why Disney keeps doing remakes.
Finally, a video that doesn't go "this is bad" or "this is good." You are underrated. ❤
I personally dislike race-swapping in general. Most of the time, characters have a race, and it has a connection to the culture around. It also feels a lot like they're doing race swaps for "cash grab" just like it's done with queerbaiting. I would much rather prefer movies that create black characters from the beginning.
I will mention that while the action itself of whitewashing and blackwashing is the same, the social implication can be vastly different.
I'm a character creator myself, and I know pretty damn well that if someone tried to whitewash or blackwash my characters, I would dislike it because of their story and setting. It could break a lot of the story.
i dont care about race swapping, i just don't like rachel zieglar's behavior really
Not gonna lie, I’m absolutely exhausted from all the arguments around race swapping. And the main reason why is because, at least in the videos I’ve seen, nobody ever approaches it with any level of nuance. The overwhelming majority of takes I hear on it are either completely for it, or completely against it, with no in between.
I gotta admit, though; your video is very different. I don’t fully agree with everything you said, but it’s definitely more nuanced than most videos on the subject, and that’s really refreshing to see. The vibe I’ve gotten from this is very much one of “Let’s talk”, rather than the usual “let’s completely shut down the other side” that I usually see. So thanks. :D
I totally agree with your “original stories” point, also. Not just because I think it’s a great point, but because Disney has shown they can make great movies out of non-western folklore (Mulan, Encanto, Moana, etc.), so I wish they’d just do more of that instead of the lazy, unoriginal, and borderline rage-baiting way.
PS: totally agree with your thing about cinemas. They’re dumb, overpriced, the people in them suck, and since 2017-ish are louder than a rock concert. And don’t feel bad about not having seen Barbie or Oppenheimer. I’ve seen both, and neither of them were worth the hype at all.
Anyway, sorry for the super-long comment. Great video. Take care.
My problem is when things aren't applied equally. Why apply things only to one group? If they didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards.
Alita:Battle Angel in the manga was set in Japan with Japanese characters. The movie went the school-play route, and just chose the best actors they had available, of varying appearances. They did not discriminate in favour of anyone.
1. Stop overgeneralizing people in theatres. Not everyone in them sucks.
2. I've only seen Barbie but it WAS worth the hype. It's just that it doesn't hit as good when watching it on a physical media release and/or a streaming service.
You're right about movie theatres being overpriced nowadays tho.
@@TheMsJsrantheTAtradethenbl-x3y And if we apply the school play method to Snow White 2024, they surely must've had way better, way more talented actresses of European ancestry available. Even making her Japanese would've made more sense than making her hispanic lmao.
@@NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan Tis a fair argument. I was being a bit hyperbolic when I said the people in them suck; I’ve personally had lots of bad experiences with theatres and the people in them, but I know for every one annoying dingus, there were at least five who just watch the movie. Sorry if that came off wrong.
As for Barbie… I’m sorry, I just don’t agree. I did see it in a theatre (friends convinced me to go), and all the hype I saw around it just wasn’t worth it for me. I didn’t think it was a bad movie, I just thought it was overhyped (and same with Oppenheimer, if not more so). I’m glad you enjoyed it, though! :D
The costume doesn’t even look right!
It would be weird for a character named snow white to not be white as snow in one way or another. Skin, hair, clothes, SOMETHING should fit the name. Vikings and other european period characters should be white (in most cases at least). Mermaids aren't real so they can have any skin color (unless the skin color matters to the story)
I've always felt similar to how you've felt about race-swapping like I don't mind it it doesnt impact me negatively however I would much rather have an original story that shows a poc character actually written as one like Princess and the frog is an amazing example of them being able to write original princess movies with black people at the forefront, like I would probably cry if we ever got an actual hispanic disney princess like that, however I loved your point about leaving the scraps of white people for poc people I had never even really thought of that I mostly only ever viewed race swapping as virtue signaling from these corporations to say hey ik we dont talk about gay people but we're not hateful!!
Im calling it the Snow White remake is gonna suck
2025 predictions are in
honestly I'm more concerned about how they are going to handle the music. In the original a lot of the sound effects were worked into the music really well. I just think that is something that will be completely overlooked in the remake.
Hiii! I’m so happy to be the first to comment. Love your vids I’ve been here for only about 2 or 3 months but I hope you keep going❤
(I just want to add that as a white person I don’t really think I can comment on this but I agree with everything you say)
Thanks so much for ur support! Also u ABSOLUTELY can comment if you'd like to I'd love to hear everyones opinion!
@@Kaysaja I think it’s important to have representation for every race in movies. In my opinion though people who were created as a certain race should stay a certain race in recreations. It’s cute to do it as a head cannon if you are making something like fan art or a fan made piece but if it’s cannon I think you should stick to the original. That being said it would be amazing if more movies had a lot more diversity with lead roles. It’s like every movie I watch the protagonist is white. Also whitewashing is not ok, it gets rid of black representation and sometimes even takes away shades of a persons personality. Black people need more representation not less. (Also other races in general)
I liked the video. I'm not sure of my thoughts on the topic tbh but I liked hearing yours.
On a technical note, I'm not sure having the mic attached to an open bottle is great for your audio quality. There may be echo/resonance or some kind of feedback from the air passing over the bottle mouth. That's just an assumption though, I could be wrong.
@turnt_barbarian thank u for watching and for ur feedback! I'm still tryna get the mic situation in order lol so any tips help alot!
I personally wouldn’t care that much if the movies didn’t suck
Perhaps they should actually swap out a bunch of writers
that is a GREAT idea. We need writer-swap not race swap lol
They need to add more middle eastern representation 😭 theres just aladdin which literally is a mix of south asian and middle eastern culture and not accurate to literally any culture
That's so true it really is just alladin representing for the whole middle east lol
I'm not gonna lie I freaking loved Wish, it wasn't perfect but as someone who has been watching Disney my whole life it really felt like a love letter to early Disney with all the references but I thought there were some parts that felt a bit lazy. the music was undeniably good though ❤
Wow, you've gotta be like the first person I seen who actually enjoyed the movie everyone else says it's complete trash lol thats really cool, I haven't watched it yet so maybe I should give it a watch and see if it's actually so horrible
@@Kaysaja I am massively neurodivergent I don't know if that makes any difference 😅 I find that I really enjoy the simpler storylines and lots of references plus throw in a couple of banging songs and I'm sold 🤣 I'm not sure it's the best movie to come out of the Disney studios but it has a place in my heart 😊❤️
Never been this early to a Queen Minnie video
Raceswapping is practially only done for cashgrabs, or, say, in the case of wish, baiting. It's just inheritantly bad and gets a big ol frown. The integerty of story is often lost in modern days in the face of money. love the video, exactly my thoughts :)
What if i told you Bailey was a far better fit for Ariel than Zegler is as Snow White considering what she has said about the character thus far?
ohhh yea a lot of peeps were talking about that too and how she seems to hate snow whites character. Some ppl say that the production team n stuff told her to say that and others are saying she just really doesn't like her ion know which one I belive, but I think Halle did a wonderful job with promoting herself as ariel
@Kaysaja My thoughts exactly from her cutesy videos with children to even her run-ins with Jodie Benson, Bailey has shown time and again, genuine gratitude for her role as Ariel. Ziegler, on the other hand has shown crass arrogance and utter contempt for Snow White and her story. Granted, Disney probably also has a hand in this, as they're the ones putting these videos out. But if what they're putting about, ziegler is true, it really makes me wonder how ziegler even got this role in the first place.
@@joshuaokoro-sokoh2993 my guess is that she got the role because she has this operatic singing style similar to that of Snow White. This was displayed in the west side story remake.
I only give a shit about Snow White because they cannot even use the opening line of the story.
I love yr channel sm ❤❤
Actually the bow is really cute I like it
and i always see the argument like “What if we made tiana white🤓”
But again the race is relevant because the entire plot is literally based off African and Afro-Caribbean culture THE ANTAGONIST IS THE LEADER OF THE DEAD IN HATIAN VODOU
Snow white is just a basic fairytale love story that could apply to any culture
Except that Snow White is called Snow White because her skin is as white as snow. That’s when the skin color is important.
@@morigaena333so the culture and race is not as important.
Many asains people can fit the bill. Some black people to and also many white people won't fit the description like Rachel who people seem to like to tell her that she is wrong about her race
the race of an actor irl doesn’t really relate to the movie depending on what it’s about
for ex moana would make sense hiring a polynesian actress because the culture is literally part of the story
snow white, sleeping beauty, the little mermaid and all those, they don’t really have any cultural elements it’s more just a general fairy tale type thing.
So Europeans can't enjoy their own fairytales.
You say some Fairy tales have no cultural origins... Yes they do. They come from a lot of different European regions.
Snow white atleast the version the brothers Grim wrote down comes from Germany.
Yes you can spin them into any region of the world if you try. But still the tale itself is European on origin.
@@ghoulchan7525the ethnicity of snow white and the other princesses op mentioned have no bearing on the story. Anyone of any ethnicity could take on the role and it would make no difference. If the protagonist being a different race impedes your enjoyment of it that's concerning. It's a movie, the importance is on the storytelling and other elements, and in snow whites case her ethnicity has nothing to do with any of those elements
Snow White is literally named that because her skin is as white as snow. That’s like a basic part of the fairtytale
@@laysthechip3356if race doesn’t matter than why is it so important for YOU that the princess is race-swapped? Why can’t the princess be like how she is described in the original?
I was told that Mickey and Minnie were racist depictions of black people. Maybe you dont wanna play Minnie? 😅
Late to the party 🎉 just checking it out.
Oh I don't know about having 2 minutes of another RUclipsr in a 20-minute video... 😧 I felt a little disappointed that one-tenth of this video was something I've already watched. It started to make me feel like I was watching someone else's vid and made me question if you had anything new to even add. At that point you're better off showing the thesis of that section of Shan's vid, then summarizing the rest.
nooo I'm sorry 😭 I'm still learning what's the best way to go about doing this, cus like I wanna summarize the info but I'm afraid to get something wrong or mistranslate, so then I just use some of the video but ion wanna use too much. I'll work on my summarizing skills I promise, thank u for the critique though it actually helps alot!🙏🏽
@@Kaysaja whoops I hope you see my above reply 😅
I typed suuuuuch a long reply with like legit advice and RUclips axed it... 😩
Idk about what race she is, I just wanna see if the movie is good or not.
Idc * 😭
I havent watched the video so i have no knowledge on what you talk about in here, but i do wanna mentioned the thumbnail
I just dont quite understand why blackwashing is in quotes, when it most definitely is a thing and it is racism. Is it as bad as whitewashing?.. I'd say no.. but its still bad.
Kinda like how homophobia and heterophobia are both bad, but homophobia is worse. Still, does it mean its okay to be heterophobic? No.
Yup, I agree. I did that to get the idea that whitewashing is obviously very established and well known, however blackwashing is a term that it kinda new and used a lot more frequently nowadays, and getting to the difference of them both morally, not to say it doesn't exist of course.
@@Kaysaja exactly! I'm glad you agree, I just wanted to make sure you weren't saying blackwashing isn't real or anything because there are definitely people who say that.
Thanks for explaining💛
The race of the actor doesn’t/shouldn’t matter the costume design of the character is what’s important (just talking in the case of Disney princesses as often race ..excluding mulan, jasmine,.. is not important to the story)
So are we ignoring medieval Europe now?
You guys either know nothing about Snow White or are choosing to ignore her description being SKIN AS WHITE AS SNOW
@@morigaena333 idk I honestly feel like it’s not that important to the story
@@ghoulchan7525 did people of colour not exist back then orrrr?
@@SR-ec9cs but it is. It's a description of what she looks like.
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