I am so surprised at the base price. Ford really did a great job improving the car inside and out and containing costs. That rear light with the sharp crease is a direct copy of the Mustang Mach E. Great review.
Though the V8 is the proper way to get a mustang, I had a rental with a turbo 4. That engine is stronger then you'd think and is a very reasonable option for the price sensitive shopper.
OTD price is only a small consideration. Most people do not consider the lifetime of a vehicle's fuel surcharge. It can add up not just over the life time of a purchase but annual differences can be quite substantial. I drive a 2.4L Turbo in the Outback XT. It's rated as being $1,250 more than the average new vehicle fuel cost. And That is under ideal conditions. Throw in inclement weather, more than average usage, i.e every day life unpredictabilities and you're having very bad regrets.
i have a 2020 gt and i can confirm that the ecoboost is a great option seeing as how it gets way better fuel economy and the i feel like i can’t really use the power of the v8 without risking a major ticket or even a night in jail.
I heard from an auto industry market researcher, many years ago, that buyers would grade the back seat on this type of car very low but at the same time consider it an absolute must have (designers considered removing the seat at some point). After many rounds of research on how to make the back seat better they finally heard from a young buyer that the reason is not the back seat itself but instead the extra room, especially being able to recline the front seats and make out with their date. True story.
The 2+2 configuration for Pony cars were because they were targeted at younger people, but later the 2+2 configuration on 2 doors I really think is an insurance thing. It's cheaper to insure a 4 passenger vehicle than a 2 passenger vehicle; even if that +2 is little more than an upholstered package shelf.
That seat material reminds me of my wife's 2023 Mach-e. Also, at 56 & driving mostly manuals for the past 40 years, bring on our 10-speed automatic overlords. Love that new IP. I bought a new model year 2016 Titanium Escape in the summer of 2015, mainly, to get Sync 3. IMHO Ford has been setting infotainment bar among OEMs, the last several years. I'm not really in the market or a new car, but in 2 or 3 years, I will definitely take a look at a nicely used model.
I'm digging the third window layout comments because your humor comes through. I always figured anybody who would stuff themselves in trunks for years on end had to have a sense of humor.
No, I agree with you. That's why I am sticking with the base model. I am actually getting more upgrades with the interior then the exterior. My first Mustang as I always wanted one for years and now retired and so thrilled to finally have one! After looking at the premium model, the middle of the large screen is black anyway. So the two separate screens I am actually happy with.
I’m a S197 Mustang fan all day..more over the 2013-2014 mustang in my opinion the best looking mustang😉having said that..I want to like this new S650 mustang but love the sharp lines of the S550 more..
I sort of wish the Ford had made this a liftback instead of having a trunk like they did for the fastback version of the Fox Mustang. Alas, I've already lived my Mustang dreams back in the early 90s with an 88 Mustang GT convertible.
Alex, You called the Ecoboost Mustang, "A Discount BMW 4 Series". I wonder if we can expect that tag line to appear in Ford's official advertisements 🤔
With options in the sports car market either being eliminated or ludicrously overpriced thanks to dealership markups (cough Toyota, Honda, Kia/Hyundai, etc) it's going to be a lot harder to get a decent sports car for cheap. Enter the updated Ecoboost Mustang to save the day.
The new WRX is easily available at a discount. Been having a blast with mine in snow, mud, wet and dry. There are so many cosmetic and performance parts available, you can turn it into whatever you want. Subaru finally made a great engine that can make 400hp reliably. Mines running 350hp and it's a blast!
It's really nice that the Mustang still lives. Just can't get over the new interior, which to me seems like a better fit on Ford's crossover/pick-up truck line than on a sportscar like the Mustang.
Any idea if the 2.3 has been updated to have port injection along with it's direct injection? Most of Ford's other EcoBoost engines have been given that treatment, but last I knew, not the 2.3 for some reason.
I am looking at ordering an EcoBoost. Any plans to review one with the Performance Package? I'm curious to see if the extra $$$ would substantiate adding the Perf Pack to it......
I wish there was an option to delete the display and have a base model with "regular" digital gauges similar to the previous model. I like the ability to configure the screen to look like old Fox Bodies, but that could have been done with a small digital display rather than a living room sized home-theater display that irritates the *&$! out of me. That, no MT, no standard paddle shifters and piped in sound make this a difficult "want to purchase" decision for me. I've had 3 GT's and a Cobra in the past, however, and really want to like this car. I guess I'll drive one and see how it feels.
It was getting difficult to differentiate between the Camaro and the Mustang in any case. Maybe Chevy should rebadge Mustangs. I wonder why they don't use the 2.7 ecoboost. That thing is da bomb and it gets an indicated 23+ MPG in town when carefully driven in an F150. Regular cab F150 that is.
A friend of mine works on the design team. We like the look, but both hate how, with every iteration, it grows in size. He thinks the dash is ridiculous, I love it!
The Mustang hasnt really grown in size though, at least as far as I can tell it's very very close in size to the Mustang that came out in 2005 (maybe a couple inches wider but that's about it).
@ALMX5DP They are very close, and I like them. For me, they're too large. The engineer I know on that team complains about the size. He wishes they would do a smaller Mustang. If it were smaller, I'd buy one.
@@keithjackson4985 well to be fair even an original ‘65 is only like 8” shorter overall than the new model. It’s quite a bit narrower but really the Mustang has stayed fairly consistent over the course of its model history.
I hope it's the one to get, because I just bought a convertible. My only complaint is that the rear seats don't fold down so I can load longer items in the pass through.
The 3.5L Powerboost full hybrid V6 would be an ideal engine for the Mustang. Plenty of power and decent fuel economy, much less stressed than the 2.3L four. I'm certain that Ford will have to eventually offer a hybrid engine to meet stricter fuel economy standards.
The 67 had more or less a gentle curve with the fast back kind of sloping trunk lid. This and the Elantra have a mid-line harsh kink that’s fairly unique right now.
I think it would eternally grind my gears, so to speak, if I did not have this of all cars with a V8... especially where we live in these special times, last opportunity for many to get a V8, and soon a petrol engine car all together...
What i find hilarious is how Ford will let all these new first drives be with a luxury packed ecoboost and THEN i bet the first GT will be a magnaride, high performance pack GT lol... This first drive eco should have been high performance, people really aren't that interested in the minor details. We want to know how it rides with brembos and magnaride being 200lbs lighter!
Definitely Hyundai vibes on the back. That's the first thing I thought when they unveiled it. It's honestly the only design choice I don't like on this car
the lack of paddleshifters w/o the perf. package is really annoying, but Straightpipes found the package wasn't all that great, and was considerably less comfortable. Ugh. Ford. so close.
I recently thought of what the Mustang is. It was the first ponycar and will be the final of them with an in an internal combustion engine. All othe ponycar will become extinct.
I'll keep my 2021 Mustang Ecobust with a manual shift forever.This new Mustang with only a automatic with this ugly dashboard with the stupid digital screens is just plain a bad idea.
I thank myself every day for pulling the trigger on a 2019 fully loaded. These 2024 look so full of plastic on the exterior and ugly. I like the digital dash in the s550 more also. This is such a downgrade from the s550
Great car, though I think I'd still go for a 86/BRZ if given the option. Wont be as much of a hotrod in a straight light, but missing nearly 800lbs of the weight sure would put a smile on my face at every offramp and track apex.
Im going to assume the reason it's gone is because people weren't buying it. Most of the time, the reason a brand drops something is because sales just weren't good enough to keep building it.
@@watchreport Nope, in fact 40 percent of the previous generation that weren't sold to rental agencies were ordered with manuals. In The U.K., 60% of cars are still bought with manuals. They still offer the Fiesta and Focus over there as well. GM also did this with the Camaro. They simply are determined to make the 30% of people in the U.S. who prefer a manual just suffer with automatics or pay a huge premium for it. And, yes, the only difference between the ecoboost and base V8 model is really the engine and a couple of minor tweaks. Yet Ford charges 14K more for the GT, representing the single most expensive engine upgrade cost of anything outside of exotics. 31K car... now with V8 added! 14K more! A shame, really.
@@josephoberlander In 2020, 56% of cars sales in the UK were automatic, a total of 915,812 automatics of 1,631,064 cars sold. The year previous it was 49%, and is part of a long term trend.
I haven't been a fan of how the Mustang has looked for quite a while, including this one. It looks dated already. I preferred it's competition, especially the Camaro. Looks like high-end Camaros where the best of the bunch in terms of handling and dynamics. Only Dodge/Chrysler had a 4 door variant.
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The paddle shifters being tied to the performance pack really grinds my gears
Yeah, L gear is something you’d find in a 1999 Corolla
I don't use them so I don't care. Love that they deleted them.
@@r3games1985 they didnt delete them they put them behind a pay wall.
Pun intended...😂
And I agree 100%. Lame move, Ford. 😕
Can't grind your gears. No manual either. 😂
Alex trying to drift is not something I thought I would need to see but I'm glad it turned out to be that way
Terrible wheels
I am so surprised at the base price. Ford really did a great job improving the car inside and out and containing costs. That rear light with the sharp crease is a direct copy of the Mustang Mach E. Great review.
The dealers 5 to 10k mark up laughs at you.
@@Fyxxterzcthat isn’t happening anymore
same and I think people over 30 dont realize how much younger people like the updated screens and tech features .
19:08 Perfect *_Cars&Coffee_* exit.
😂💀 Right ! A mustang at its natural element.
Except that he didn’t hit a curb, blow a couple tires, and break the suspension. Also need a police car to drive in with lights and siren.
Though the V8 is the proper way to get a mustang, I had a rental with a turbo 4. That engine is stronger then you'd think and is a very reasonable option for the price sensitive shopper.
OTD price is only a small consideration. Most people do not consider the lifetime of a vehicle's fuel surcharge. It can add up not just over the life time of a purchase but annual differences can be quite substantial.
I drive a 2.4L Turbo in the Outback XT. It's rated as being $1,250 more than the average new vehicle fuel cost. And That is under ideal conditions. Throw in inclement weather, more than average usage, i.e every day life unpredictabilities and you're having very bad regrets.
i have a 2020 gt and i can confirm that the ecoboost is a great option seeing as how it gets way better fuel economy and the i feel like i can’t really use the power of the v8 without risking a major ticket or even a night in jail.
thats not a mustang...
@@laloajuria4678 why not?
@@laloajuria4678 maybe in your world it's not, but last I knew, Ford called it a mustang
I heard from an auto industry market researcher, many years ago, that buyers would grade the back seat on this type of car very low but at the same time consider it an absolute must have (designers considered removing the seat at some point). After many rounds of research on how to make the back seat better they finally heard from a young buyer that the reason is not the back seat itself but instead the extra room, especially being able to recline the front seats and make out with their date. True story.
The 2+2 configuration for Pony cars were because they were targeted at younger people, but later the 2+2 configuration on 2 doors I really think is an insurance thing. It's cheaper to insure a 4 passenger vehicle than a 2 passenger vehicle; even if that +2 is little more than an upholstered package shelf.
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@6:30 Whoa...Alex is in the trunk again...blast from the past! [as a "drifter" you had a couple of nice spin-outs]
That seat material reminds me of my wife's 2023 Mach-e. Also, at 56 & driving mostly manuals for the past 40 years, bring on our 10-speed automatic overlords. Love that new IP. I bought a new model year 2016 Titanium Escape in the summer of 2015, mainly, to get Sync 3. IMHO Ford has been setting infotainment bar among OEMs, the last several years. I'm not really in the market or a new car, but in 2 or 3 years, I will definitely take a look at a nicely used model.
I'm digging the third window layout comments because your humor comes through. I always figured anybody who would stuff themselves in trunks for years on end had to have a sense of humor.
I love the "chop" in the rear tail lights. It mimics the 67 and 68 mustang's tail lights. A design cue I have always loved.
I love all the new styling~ this car market doesn't support 'same old thing' styling.
How is the reliability for the ecoboost? Anyone have experience with past models?
This os the Mustang i prefer. The ecoboost. You sold me on one with this review. Fully specced with performance package and Mag ride. Same color.
Looking forward to the GT drive tomorrow. Platform looks great!
Am I nuts for preferring the separate screens? Definitely cuts down on bezel size that I don't think will age well.
No, I agree with you. That's why I am sticking with the base model. I am actually getting more upgrades with the interior then the exterior. My first Mustang as I always wanted one for years and now retired and so thrilled to finally have one! After looking at the premium model, the middle of the large screen is black anyway. So the two separate screens I am actually happy with.
I’m a S197 Mustang fan all day..more over the 2013-2014 mustang in my opinion the best looking mustang😉having said that..I want to like this new S650 mustang but love the sharp lines of the S550 more..
I sort of wish the Ford had made this a liftback instead of having a trunk like they did for the fastback version of the Fox Mustang. Alas, I've already lived my Mustang dreams back in the early 90s with an 88 Mustang GT convertible.
I really don’t like the lack of physical buttons.
Love Alexandra! I’ve watched you for years Alex, thanks for sharing and keep up the great content.
Alex, You called the Ecoboost Mustang, "A Discount BMW 4 Series". I wonder if we can expect that tag line to appear in Ford's official advertisements 🤔
With options in the sports car market either being eliminated or ludicrously overpriced thanks to dealership markups (cough Toyota, Honda, Kia/Hyundai, etc) it's going to be a lot harder to get a decent sports car for cheap. Enter the updated Ecoboost Mustang to save the day.
The new WRX is easily available at a discount. Been having a blast with mine in snow, mud, wet and dry. There are so many cosmetic and performance parts available, you can turn it into whatever you want. Subaru finally made a great engine that can make 400hp reliably. Mines running 350hp and it's a blast!
Its not like this isnt ludicrously overpriced either. This is a 35k car marked up to 45k for "reasons".
@@momsbasement656 Just as many upgrades for a Mustang as well if not more so. New WRX is ugly AF.
It's really nice that the Mustang still lives. Just can't get over the new interior, which to me seems like a better fit on Ford's crossover/pick-up truck line than on a sportscar like the Mustang.
I find the Kia style instrument panel very disappointing.
@@Warped9 Likewise. The removal of the IP binnacle only emphasizes the thick bezels and cheapens the overall dash design.
Overall I like the look of the 2023 Mustang far, far better.
The price for a face lift is insane.
Its 32k now
Any idea if the 2.3 has been updated to have port injection along with it's direct injection? Most of Ford's other EcoBoost engines have been given that treatment, but last I knew, not the 2.3 for some reason.
TFL said yes
Thats already been confirmed months ago
I am looking at ordering an EcoBoost. Any plans to review one with the Performance Package? I'm curious to see if the extra $$$ would substantiate adding the Perf Pack to it......
Gotta love the wall plastered in gang tags in the background. 🤣
I love Alex in the trunk. Lol
Alex trying hard to be the first one on "Mustang leaving Car Meet videos with the new mustang" ;)
I wish there was an option to delete the display and have a base model with "regular" digital gauges similar to the previous model. I like the ability to configure the screen to look like old Fox Bodies, but that could have been done with a small digital display rather than a living room sized home-theater display that irritates the *&$! out of me. That, no MT, no standard paddle shifters and piped in sound make this a difficult "want to purchase" decision for me. I've had 3 GT's and a Cobra in the past, however, and really want to like this car. I guess I'll drive one and see how it feels.
Look at the SIZE of that air cleaner~ that's serious breathing!
I love this new generation!
It hasn’t come out yet
2:50 The dual exhaust has nothing to do with the Ecoboost. Also the GT comes with the dual exhaust if you don't choose the Active Exhaust.
It was getting difficult to differentiate between the Camaro and the Mustang in any case. Maybe Chevy should rebadge Mustangs. I wonder why they don't use the 2.7 ecoboost. That thing is da bomb and it gets an indicated 23+ MPG in town when carefully driven in an F150. Regular cab F150 that is.
A friend of mine works on the design team. We like the look, but both hate how, with every iteration, it grows in size. He thinks the dash is ridiculous, I love it!
The Mustang hasnt really grown in size though, at least as far as I can tell it's very very close in size to the Mustang that came out in 2005 (maybe a couple inches wider but that's about it).
@ALMX5DP They are very close, and I like them. For me, they're too large. The engineer I know on that team complains about the size. He wishes they would do a smaller Mustang. If it were smaller, I'd buy one.
@@keithjackson4985 well to be fair even an original ‘65 is only like 8” shorter overall than the new model. It’s quite a bit narrower but really the Mustang has stayed fairly consistent over the course of its model history.
I hope it's the one to get, because I just bought a convertible. My only complaint is that the rear seats don't fold down so I can load longer items in the pass through.
Looks sharp!
Alex drifting is hilarious
Mustangs doing what mustangs do best! Drifting all over the place ha ha. I love Fords. 👍🏽
Love the review. Looks like you had fun drifting. How much is the EcoBoost premium
41k
@@Dhcudhnssicjsisisn’t it 36 because that is probably for a convertible.
7 Thousand more than the Base Model.
32k
All those ponies on the concrete barriers were probably contributing to your awkard drift performance. I would go with that storyline. 😆 Great video.
6 wheeled honda accord at 17:36 and you don't even flinch. Bruh.
The 3.5L Powerboost full hybrid V6 would be an ideal engine for the Mustang. Plenty of power and decent fuel economy, much less stressed than the 2.3L four. I'm certain that Ford will have to eventually offer a hybrid engine to meet stricter fuel economy standards.
Dude is this the CA-39? Do you think it should be reopened?? I love that road.
Might be trading my Maverick truck for this...
😂😂😂
That front grille is exactly like the new Honda accord
The rear of the Elantra 😂
@@revistadearmas Why do they keep ruining a classic ..just baffles me.
Honda copied. Ford has had that design for a decade now.
Only thing I don’t like about the mustang is that we can’t have a sunroof cause of the curved roof.
Gas savings is the future and for me, I wants to try to be as responsible as possible the mustang ecoboost is the mustang of today.
Looks like the @TheAutomotiveJunkies Mustang. Same color and stripes!
how tall are you btw?
need this car
Long live the Mustang! The first muscle car and last one to stand.
Still surprised they labeled this refresh as next gen, at least put a hatch option in the s550
🤮
You look like every other Mustang driver I see at Cars & Coffee...🤣
I see some really bad panel gaps, which is classic modern Ford!!
Better than the gt86 by a country mile.
Alex the rear tail lights design are from a 67 Mustang. Its Hyundia that copied the Ford design from the 67 mustang.
The 67 had more or less a gentle curve with the fast back kind of sloping trunk lid. This and the Elantra have a mid-line harsh kink that’s fairly unique right now.
I think it would eternally grind my gears, so to speak, if I did not have this of all cars with a V8... especially where we live in these special times, last opportunity for many to get a V8, and soon a petrol engine car all together...
Alex should stay away from crowds of people while driving a Mustang 😂
I could watch the drift fails for an hour though!
That's one good looking BMW 4 series Coupe. They really re-worked that beaver grill nicely...
It does look good in red.
Would be nice if Ford upped the power to 350hp/380lb ft
That's what the GT is for
Definitely not the same with the added weight.
Nice? So we all end up like Paul Walker and Corey LaBarrie? Too much power!!!!
Why?
@@brunoheggli2888 exactly! It’s already too powerful!!
5:45 So, are you saying that we cannot stuff mother-in-laws in the backseats?
Depends on the size of the mother in law
The interior upgrades are really cool, but the fact Ford doesn’t offer it as a manual is a complete dealbreaker for me
Hopefully the dealerships will actually have these for sale and not just 1 or two that are gone within a day.
They wont
Custom Order only. Get use to it.
@@r3games1985 no.
I have an ecoboost mustang manual 2019. I am really not impressed with this new one. They just added a big screen.
Wonder if this is faster than camaro v6? Learned a new phrase " turbo curious." Lol
I like it, but prefer the styling of the 2023.
What i find hilarious is how Ford will let all these new first drives be with a luxury packed ecoboost and THEN i bet the first GT will be a magnaride, high performance pack GT lol... This first drive eco should have been high performance, people really aren't that interested in the minor details. We want to know how it rides with brembos and magnaride being 200lbs lighter!
the car you reviewed is about 37k lol. Wild for a 4cyl Mustang
They need to put the 2.7 twin turbo in this car.
15mpg! 😳
If you’re complaining about mpg don’t buy a sports car
He's driving in canyons what do you expect
That's the V8. This car is rated for 22/33.
The back doesn’t look like a Huyandai😅
When everything's going small displacement, hybrid, and fully electric, the V8 is the one to get.
Ford invested a lot in the engineerings and quality
Lol, they brought in graffiti in case you didn't know it was LA!
Definitely Hyundai vibes on the back. That's the first thing I thought when they unveiled it. It's honestly the only design choice I don't like on this car
15 MPG on a 4cyl?
Go back to the on-screen score by category THAT’S WHAT MAKES YOU DIFFERENT FROM THE REST
the lack of paddleshifters w/o the perf. package is really annoying, but Straightpipes found the package wasn't all that great, and was considerably less comfortable. Ugh. Ford. so close.
I know it’s blasphemous to say, but I wish it had a lift-back
I kind of agree
Yep, my 86 liftback was very practical and adults under 6 ft could sit in the back without their heads hitting the roof.
Which spec ecoboost have paddle shift?
Top of the line.
the volume seller
What happened to the v6??
Ford dropped the V-6 from the Mustang lineup in the 2018 model year. Since then it's been the Turbo-4 or V-8.
I recently thought of what the Mustang is. It was the first ponycar and will be the final of them with an in an internal combustion engine. All othe ponycar will become extinct.
I still don't understand the "drifting" thing.
102°F = 38.8° in the rest of the world.
I'll keep my 2021 Mustang Ecobust with a manual shift forever.This new Mustang with only a automatic with this ugly dashboard with the stupid digital screens is just plain a bad idea.
I wonder if Ford will continue putting an ICE into the Mustang, or will it receive an electric powertrain in the future?
I really hate that big info box on the screen. Very distracting
I thank myself every day for pulling the trigger on a 2019 fully loaded. These 2024 look so full of plastic on the exterior and ugly. I like the digital dash in the s550 more also. This is such a downgrade from the s550
WOW... so you put a 5'10, 300 pound woman in the back seat, then insult the Mustang for having limited space in the back... you're a trip dude!
Erm…my four-year-old Honda Fit has paddle shifters…
Ford..? 🤷♂️
lol 😆 the 6th gen can do 4.9 0 to 60 times
Plz stop comparing to Nissans and Hyundais
The Mustang is much heavier that the BRZ and it’s unreliability is terrible.
Seriously 15 mpg from a 4-cylinder, why would anyone buy this version.
Great car, though I think I'd still go for a 86/BRZ if given the option. Wont be as much of a hotrod in a straight light, but missing nearly 800lbs of the weight sure would put a smile on my face at every offramp and track apex.
It's not the one to get but it's cool I'll go with a Prius a very old Prius
Base model with manual.. gone. Please pay $15K more if you want manual.
Im going to assume the reason it's gone is because people weren't buying it. Most of the time, the reason a brand drops something is because sales just weren't good enough to keep building it.
@@watchreport Nope, in fact 40 percent of the previous generation that weren't sold to rental agencies were ordered with manuals. In The U.K., 60% of cars are still bought with manuals. They still offer the Fiesta and Focus over there as well. GM also did this with the Camaro. They simply are determined to make the 30% of people in the U.S. who prefer a manual just suffer with automatics or pay a huge premium for it. And, yes, the only difference between the ecoboost and base V8 model is really the engine and a couple of minor tweaks. Yet Ford charges 14K more for the GT, representing the single most expensive engine upgrade cost of anything outside of exotics. 31K car... now with V8 added! 14K more!
A shame, really.
@@josephoberlander In 2020, 56% of cars sales in the UK were automatic, a total of 915,812 automatics of 1,631,064 cars sold. The year previous it was 49%, and is part of a long term trend.
I haven't been a fan of how the Mustang has looked for quite a while, including this one. It looks dated already. I preferred it's competition, especially the Camaro.
Looks like high-end Camaros where the best of the bunch in terms of handling and dynamics. Only Dodge/Chrysler had a 4 door variant.
Don't want the price of the car up 15% for paddle shifters. What a joke.