I just wish I could try them on before buying and see how the liners differ from each other. Dropping that kind of money on something that I could end up liking less than the stock liner is a risk I haven't wanted to take yet.
I agree. You should try and chat with a skate shop, see if they have a return policy. I know it’ll cost a bit more, but it’s worth talking with an expert before ordering.
In my opinion trying on skates or liners in a store is almost pointless. For me, every skate that felt like crap with all kinds of pressure points when I first tried them on ended up being perfect, and every skate that felt good when I first tried them on ended up being too big. You have to break things in, get used to the skate etc. So far I bought 3 pairs of skates that felt good in the shop, but then ended up being too big, or ended up completely killing my feet. Your mileage may vary, just my experience. I have weird feet for sure.
I don't have a single shop within a few states of me, just got my USD aeons today and they feel great but the skinny liner that came with them leaves a lot of unwanted space for my calves. Going to try a fatboy now but that's another $100 and if that doesn't work, I'm $400 out for something that I really want to get into, but won't work for me.
Makes absolutely perfect sense. I got some entry level calary size 12 and the lines seems like it's for an 11.. would heat molding the liner be an option?
Hey! So digging up an older one here but if you get to this comment I have a request/questions. Would you be able to dig a little more into the liners and maybe get/try a few different ones, perhaps make a new Gear Talk about liners again? Liners can get quite expensive so it's a hard thing to experiment with. Can you talk more about the Intuition liners and how you liked them, or maybe I'm missing a video that you have already uploaded? Here are a few of my comments so far: After over a decade of not skating I came back and skated my old skates (Rollerblade TRS Detail, and Razor Genesys 8) and the original liners were actually just fine, chewed up but felt ok other than footbeds being crappy. I then purchased a USD Carbon Free Montre Livingston skate which came with the MyFit liner (not sure really what model that is, and if it is a skinny boy or something else, but they are the thinner ones) and that's where my problems started. Not sure if people have similar issues, or if I'm just getting old(er) (mid 30s)... I really liked the MyFit liner to begin with (I heat molded it, properly, watched videos and read instructions) but when doing longer skate sessions I noticed they started hurting my ankle bones. I then switches to some Valo V13 liners I had laying around, and these seem to be better for my ankles, they don't hurt as much and not as quickly. I think the MyFit liner molded to the contour of my ankles is actually a bit too stiff and doesn't allow for that little bit of the ankle travel... I think it would require a much stiffer boot/cuff than the Carbon Free skate...? In comparison the MyFit liners hurt my bones about 1hr into the session, the Valo V13 don't start hurting till about 2hrs into the session. I know this must have something to do with the skate itself and how the cuffs flex and move which allows my ankles to most likely move back and forth causing some rubbing and eventually starting to hurt. Even though these skates have the ankle strap which the other 2 skates I mentioned don't it seems like something is not quite working there too well? Additionally I changed the top velcro strap to plastic buckle to prevent some of the flex. I also found that the type of sock makes a difference, I skated normal socks, I skated normal low cut socks (those are the worst), I skated Chaya Derby Knicerbockers (those were much better), and finally Drymax Hockey Socks (these are the best IMO for material, and really make a huuuge difference to keep your feet less sweaty). I wonder, if there is some techy geeky way to figure out what liners work better for what skates or what cuff design, and what to do to prevent the ankle pain to some extent (or really any other issues people may experience). I'm curious about Reign Liners, Intuition Liners, and MyFit (which seem to have a whole bunch of different models), and there are of course lots of other skate specific ones and so forth - so yet another area of aggressive skates that has sooo many different options and they don't all work the same! I don't know if you have the option to explore something like this but is seems like a huge topic!?
Thanks for the message! Liners are a black art, I don’t know how anyone can figure it out aside from trying them all on. I don’t have any secrets, just get lucky from time to time. Maybe calling a shop for advice?
This video reminds me how lucky I am that I've never had an issue with liners! I know fit and liners and comfort are big issues for a lot of people and can certainly be costly. Hopefully one day in the future we can have the air fit system/lining that powerslide (I think) have put out on one of their new boots. That way no one should really have an issue. Slip your foot on, pump it up and your foot should be surrounded perfectly!
I bought the FAT BOY PS for a malleolus contact problem, but they were of no use, modeling the liner's contact point when it is hot, what is needed for my experience, is that the boot is comfortable or moldable, then each liner will probably be more or less fine.
I hear you my man with my v13's i got trust spec op liners because with the orignal liners that came with the valos sucked heavy ... Atleast for my foot but the new liner helped out much more than expected i could actually ride my skates for more than an hour and i could also feel much more overall
I just got some entry level calary inline blades size 12.. the liner is a bit smaller than the boot itself. I was wondering what liner do you recommend for a wide 12 foot ?
I just ordered Intuitions because the crappy liners that my Roces M12 s came with have protrusions that dig into the foot. Terrible design. Beyond belief. Thanks.
Hey Noam Pitlik , I have pretty wide feet and always get blisters etc. which annoys me soon hard! :-( I always have to stop skating when I still want to keep going. SO as a result I finally want to buy some long lasting liners! Putting the smell of the intuition aside... Do you think they are good for wide feet as well? And I would like to buy the blue ones but I'm unsure whether they are only for the THEM 908 skates...
@@PhillGraaf The Intuition XL liners (gold and black) I bought are wide enough for my 13 wides. Them and Intuition are two brands of the same company, so they clearly work well together. I use mine in Roces M12 skates, as stated. No problem.
So my feet are normally size 40 (25cm) and I have the 39-40 Aeon 60 (Lomax 2016) boot. My toes touch the front with the stock skinny boy liners so I took the risk of getting 2nd skin liners online. I really like the insoles and my toes don't touch the end any more (just) but the boots are really flat at the front and still press down on my feet pretty bad. Toes go numb skating more than an hour. I can take the insoles out but then there's no padding at all underfoot. I'm trying the tennis ball trick and crossing fingers. I hadn't intended to buy them as a downsize but there you go! They're very snug and definitely offer great support and control.
People mod them a bit. skateandliberty.tumblr.com/post/150925741068/aeon-mod-the-narrow-boot-issue But I think making a destructive edit to the boot is a bit extreme so I'm just stuffing tennis balls in the boot toe and putting them in the sun. Hopefully between that and wearing in the liner and insole it'll come right. This is the tough thing about not having a skate shop to try things on!
I have a question that you may be able to answer I have a pair of ST80s Solomon's that I want to get back up and running found them in the garage looking for new liners any recommendations
Sure! Really depends on the skate and liners you’re using. Easiest way for any setup is to use a baseball or a wooden dowel or similar and press it into the hot spot. Leave it pressed overnight. If that doesn’t help, it might be the skates just don’t work with your feet.
@@BacktoBlading My skates are powerslide next 110, I've used them for a year and didn't have that problem, I started having this problem this winter, it feels like my pointy ankle bone on the inside edge of my left foot started being pressed against the plastic (feels that way), hence, I tried wearing more socks, didn't fix it, less socks, didn't fix it, so today I tried washing the liners for the first time since I got them with water and soap and now they're being dried on my window. I am wondering if that'll fix them or if I'll have to use footsies or any other solution, what do you think?
I’ve heard the same feedback with these boots. I have a pair and haven’t experienced it myself though. Maybe getting a stick or something to open that area and leave it there for a while, see if that makes any difference?
I keep getting a hot spot on my inner ankle for 1 skate. Do you think getting a paddier liner like a Crown Liner would fix that? Or do you think I should struggle with a heat gun/hair dryer to punch it out?
Hi I’m looking for a thinner liner for my skates, which are the aeon 80s I feel as if they are a little to thick and I would like more room in my boot. I already hear molded them but to no avail
I got a pair of Shift 2s. I have a U.S. 9 wide shoe size, I got the Shifts with an 8-9 boot, the Reign liner is a 9, I can't fit in them comfortably, they crush my feet, the Reign liners are too narrow for me, I need to use an insole with a high arch, can you recommend something? I've had the Shift 2s since the summer and I still haven't skated them. I have a pair of SL Blacks in the same size and they fit fine
my feet are 25.4cm so i purchased them danny beers with the 7.5 liner 25-25.5cm size, they feel really tight and uncomfortable. i have been advised to go for this size from long at oak city and watched leon basins review who has a slightly bigger foot in this size. will the break in? or shoul i try and sell them and go up to the 8.5 26-26.5 i was told my foot would swim in that size but i feel the 7.5 is very tight without insert. first pair of skates since 2003 usd thrones with the first xsjado mook chassis frame
I have a question. I noticed the liner in my razor gen feels a little small (my toe feels like it’s about to come through) but when I put my foot in just the boot I have a little extra toe room. I wear a size 12, the boot is 11-12 and the razor liner is a 12. Should I get a bigger liner (12-13) or do I need a new skate. I’m a 36 yr old trying to get back into the game but have no idea what to do lol. Really enjoy your videos!
I have Seba FR1 Deluxe (yin yang liner, model from 2012 ottomh). I wanna get the Intuition V2 but not sure. How did you like yours? Btw what's your take on Seba vs Powerslide? Some dude was telling me the Powerslide boot sits lower vs Seba (talking 3 wheels models at Pro Skaters a few years back). Just by looking at Powerslide, their liners look so plush - so idk, do you think they're worth it? Not sure how to ask this. I'm not the kind to invest in gear like you. The FR1 shell/blade is perfect, the liner was kinda meh, but it worked ok.
My feet are 285cm I was wondering if I would fit in the medium intuition liner ive seen on a few different websites conflicting info about which shoe size I’m a 10.5 us and some websites say go large some say go medium
@@BacktoBlading yeah tried on a pair size 11 it was alittle better then 10.5 but if i can get 10.5 to be comfy then I wouldnt mind lol like the remz i really want to try so bad but after that 6th toe everyone talking sbout I'm like nope lol but i would change alot like cut the tongue off switch liners and fix water needs to be fix to not get that 6th toe but your talking alot of money to play with and not work
I have been boot fitting at a ski shop for over 5 years. I spend hours with customers to get the right fit. As far as blade liners go just do yourself a favour and get a pair of Intuitions with a good footbed specific to your arch profile. Traditional foam liners are shit. Myfit are a close second. Myfit does a great job in the ski world so maybe in a couple of years their inline skate liners will be up to par
My toes hurt in my new Aeons , my foot also falls asleep after 15 min of just having my feet in the skates.. I’ve concluded I’ll probably need a new liner otherwise I’ll never get to enjoy the skates
Hey man i have the same problems with my razor cult whites. Think they are like a half size too small or something. Any recommendations on a sub 100 dollar liner?
@@TeeJayPlaysI ended up selling the skates as I was having a really tough time finding liners in my size , most places were sold out in my size and now that summer is almost here I’m gonna be shopping for new skates
I just wish I could try them on before buying and see how the liners differ from each other. Dropping that kind of money on something that I could end up liking less than the stock liner is a risk I haven't wanted to take yet.
Infinity Ripper I was certainly disappointed when I got Them and liner was to narrow at the toes. I'm a size 12
I agree. You should try and chat with a skate shop, see if they have a return policy. I know it’ll cost a bit more, but it’s worth talking with an expert before ordering.
In my opinion trying on skates or liners in a store is almost pointless. For me, every skate that felt like crap with all kinds of pressure points when I first tried them on ended up being perfect, and every skate that felt good when I first tried them on ended up being too big. You have to break things in, get used to the skate etc.
So far I bought 3 pairs of skates that felt good in the shop, but then ended up being too big, or ended up completely killing my feet. Your mileage may vary, just my experience. I have weird feet for sure.
I don't have a single shop within a few states of me, just got my USD aeons today and they feel great but the skinny liner that came with them leaves a lot of unwanted space for my calves. Going to try a fatboy now but that's another $100 and if that doesn't work, I'm $400 out for something that I really want to get into, but won't work for me.
Your comment just deterred me from getting new ones 🤣
Awww... you broke your vintage skate making this video for us... Much Appreciated!
Mate. Super helpful info on liners. I was skating less often over the years because of tight sizing. This might be a solution. Much appreciated.
I bought a pair of Reign V3 and swapped them out for my stock liners in my Aeons… and they are great, such a good decision!!!
This is rollerblading academy.
Omg I laughed so bad when it broke 💔 I feel ya 🤣 it just happened to my dytonas and week later my Graals, plastic doesn't like being 20, 25 years....
Makes absolutely perfect sense. I got some entry level calary size 12 and the lines seems like it's for an 11.. would heat molding the liner be an option?
Can you tell me what size intuition liner you put in to the medium THEM skate at 25:12?
I’m hoping it was small size 25-26.5 cm Liner.
Hey! So digging up an older one here but if you get to this comment I have a request/questions. Would you be able to dig a little more into the liners and maybe get/try a few different ones, perhaps make a new Gear Talk about liners again? Liners can get quite expensive so it's a hard thing to experiment with. Can you talk more about the Intuition liners and how you liked them, or maybe I'm missing a video that you have already uploaded?
Here are a few of my comments so far:
After over a decade of not skating I came back and skated my old skates (Rollerblade TRS Detail, and Razor Genesys 8) and the original liners were actually just fine, chewed up but felt ok other than footbeds being crappy.
I then purchased a USD Carbon Free Montre Livingston skate which came with the MyFit liner (not sure really what model that is, and if it is a skinny boy or something else, but they are the thinner ones) and that's where my problems started. Not sure if people have similar issues, or if I'm just getting old(er) (mid 30s)...
I really liked the MyFit liner to begin with (I heat molded it, properly, watched videos and read instructions) but when doing longer skate sessions I noticed they started hurting my ankle bones.
I then switches to some Valo V13 liners I had laying around, and these seem to be better for my ankles, they don't hurt as much and not as quickly. I think the MyFit liner molded to the contour of my ankles is actually a bit too stiff and doesn't allow for that little bit of the ankle travel... I think it would require a much stiffer boot/cuff than the Carbon Free skate...?
In comparison the MyFit liners hurt my bones about 1hr into the session, the Valo V13 don't start hurting till about 2hrs into the session.
I know this must have something to do with the skate itself and how the cuffs flex and move which allows my ankles to most likely move back and forth causing some rubbing and eventually starting to hurt. Even though these skates have the ankle strap which the other 2 skates I mentioned don't it seems like something is not quite working there too well? Additionally I changed the top velcro strap to plastic buckle to prevent some of the flex.
I also found that the type of sock makes a difference, I skated normal socks, I skated normal low cut socks (those are the worst), I skated Chaya Derby Knicerbockers (those were much better), and finally Drymax Hockey Socks (these are the best IMO for material, and really make a huuuge difference to keep your feet less sweaty).
I wonder, if there is some techy geeky way to figure out what liners work better for what skates or what cuff design, and what to do to prevent the ankle pain to some extent (or really any other issues people may experience).
I'm curious about Reign Liners, Intuition Liners, and MyFit (which seem to have a whole bunch of different models), and there are of course lots of other skate specific ones and so forth - so yet another area of aggressive skates that has sooo many different options and they don't all work the same! I don't know if you have the option to explore something like this but is seems like a huge topic!?
Thanks for the message! Liners are a black art, I don’t know how anyone can figure it out aside from trying them all on. I don’t have any secrets, just get lucky from time to time. Maybe calling a shop for advice?
This video reminds me how lucky I am that I've never had an issue with liners! I know fit and liners and comfort are big issues for a lot of people and can certainly be costly.
Hopefully one day in the future we can have the air fit system/lining that powerslide (I think) have put out on one of their new boots. That way no one should really have an issue. Slip your foot on, pump it up and your foot should be surrounded perfectly!
My TRS skates broke also. I tried to skate them and they just fell apart...It was a sad day.
Sad. Those are great but the plastic doesn’t last for sure
Same! Both my Dytona and my poor Graals where gone after so many years plastic is shocked being used again
...they sang the last song 🎵
I bought the FAT BOY PS for a malleolus contact problem, but they were of no use, modeling the liner's contact point when it is hot, what is needed for my experience, is that the boot is comfortable or moldable, then each liner will probably be more or less fine.
I hear you my man with my v13's i got trust spec op liners because with the orignal liners that came with the valos sucked heavy ... Atleast for my foot but the new liner helped out much more than expected i could actually ride my skates for more than an hour and i could also feel much more overall
Absolutely. Easy way to make a skate more custom.
I just got some entry level calary inline blades size 12.. the liner is a bit smaller than the boot itself. I was wondering what liner do you recommend for a wide 12 foot ?
I just ordered Intuitions because the crappy liners that my Roces M12 s came with have protrusions that dig into the foot. Terrible design. Beyond belief. Thanks.
Update: Intuitions are awesome. I skated 5 hours straight and didn't think about them.
Hey Noam Pitlik ,
I have pretty wide feet and always get blisters etc. which annoys me soon hard! :-( I always have to stop skating when I still want to keep going. SO as a result I finally want to buy some long lasting liners!
Putting the smell of the intuition aside... Do you think they are good for wide feet as well?
And I would like to buy the blue ones but I'm unsure whether they are only for the THEM 908 skates...
@@PhillGraaf The Intuition XL liners (gold and black) I bought are wide enough for my 13 wides. Them and Intuition are two brands of the same company, so they clearly work well together. I use mine in Roces M12 skates, as stated. No problem.
Noam Pitlik thanks for the reply! I see, your first comment said it :)
@@PhillGraaf :)
So my feet are normally size 40 (25cm) and I have the 39-40 Aeon 60 (Lomax 2016) boot. My toes touch the front with the stock skinny boy liners so I took the risk of getting 2nd skin liners online. I really like the insoles and my toes don't touch the end any more (just) but the boots are really flat at the front and still press down on my feet pretty bad. Toes go numb skating more than an hour. I can take the insoles out but then there's no padding at all underfoot. I'm trying the tennis ball trick and crossing fingers. I hadn't intended to buy them as a downsize but there you go! They're very snug and definitely offer great support and control.
Yikes! I haven’t had any tight toe issues with the Aeon but I don’t doubt it. Will be tough to find a thinner liner than the second skin.
People mod them a bit. skateandliberty.tumblr.com/post/150925741068/aeon-mod-the-narrow-boot-issue But I think making a destructive edit to the boot is a bit extreme so I'm just stuffing tennis balls in the boot toe and putting them in the sun. Hopefully between that and wearing in the liner and insole it'll come right. This is the tough thing about not having a skate shop to try things on!
I have a question that you may be able to answer I have a pair of ST80s Solomon's that I want to get back up and running found them in the garage looking for new liners any recommendations
Can you share some info about how to deal with a pressure point?
Sure! Really depends on the skate and liners you’re using. Easiest way for any setup is to use a baseball or a wooden dowel or similar and press it into the hot spot. Leave it pressed overnight.
If that doesn’t help, it might be the skates just don’t work with your feet.
@@BacktoBlading My skates are powerslide next 110, I've used them for a year and didn't have that problem, I started having this problem this winter, it feels like my pointy ankle bone on the inside edge of my left foot started being pressed against the plastic (feels that way), hence, I tried wearing more socks, didn't fix it, less socks, didn't fix it, so today I tried washing the liners for the first time since I got them with water and soap and now they're being dried on my window. I am wondering if that'll fix them or if I'll have to use footsies or any other solution, what do you think?
I’ve heard the same feedback with these boots. I have a pair and haven’t experienced it myself though.
Maybe getting a stick or something to open that area and leave it there for a while, see if that makes any difference?
I keep getting a hot spot on my inner ankle for 1 skate. Do you think getting a paddier liner like a Crown Liner would fix that? Or do you think I should struggle with a heat gun/hair dryer to punch it out?
By inner ankle, I really mean smaller bone on foot not bigger bone on ankle
Hi I’m looking for a thinner liner for my skates, which are the aeon 80s I feel as if they are a little to thick and I would like more room in my boot. I already hear molded them but to no avail
I got a pair of Shift 2s. I have a U.S. 9 wide shoe size, I got the Shifts with an 8-9 boot, the Reign liner is a 9, I can't fit in them comfortably, they crush my feet, the Reign liners are too narrow for me, I need to use an insole with a high arch, can you recommend something? I've had the Shift 2s since the summer and I still haven't skated them. I have a pair of SL Blacks in the same size and they fit fine
my feet are 25.4cm so i purchased them danny beers with the 7.5 liner 25-25.5cm size, they feel really tight and uncomfortable. i have been advised to go for this size from long at oak city and watched leon basins review who has a slightly bigger foot in this size. will the break in? or shoul i try and sell them and go up to the 8.5 26-26.5 i was told my foot would swim in that size but i feel the 7.5 is very tight without insert. first pair of skates since 2003 usd thrones with the first xsjado mook chassis frame
I have a question. I noticed the liner in my razor gen feels a little small (my toe feels like it’s about to come through) but when I put my foot in just the boot I have a little extra toe room. I wear a size 12, the boot is 11-12 and the razor liner is a 12. Should I get a bigger liner (12-13) or do I need a new skate. I’m a 36 yr old trying to get back into the game but have no idea what to do lol. Really enjoy your videos!
Yeah, replacement liners are common now. Measure your feet in cm and see what you get. The Reign liners are perfect for that boot
I have Seba FR1 Deluxe (yin yang liner, model from 2012 ottomh). I wanna get the Intuition V2 but not sure. How did you like yours? Btw what's your take on Seba vs Powerslide? Some dude was telling me the Powerslide boot sits lower vs Seba (talking 3 wheels models at Pro Skaters a few years back). Just by looking at Powerslide, their liners look so plush - so idk, do you think they're worth it? Not sure how to ask this. I'm not the kind to invest in gear like you. The FR1 shell/blade is perfect, the liner was kinda meh, but it worked ok.
I need to get some Seba or FR to test. Soon!
Would love to know if an intuition size 10 liner fits in the 8-9 remz shell
It’s tough, because I think it would in width but you’d hurt length wise. Really odd skates
Wasn’t Reign first? Before the Sinister?
I don’t think so, maybe the same year?Reign was always part of Razors though.
My feet are 285cm I was wondering if I would fit in the medium intuition liner ive seen on a few different websites conflicting info about which shoe size I’m a 10.5 us and some websites say go large some say go medium
I think so, but I haven’t tried it on. I had the Large, which was too big
Back to Blading I treated myself to a nice Christmas gift of razors kirills intuitions and white oysi frames with undercover wheels
Great setup, loved the Oysi on the Shift. Enjoy!
What agressive skates would be good with myfit recall dual liner?
Aeon probably, if they fit you
@@BacktoBlading any others like roces m12 lo or usd sway? Or is the padding to thick?
The m12 might be nice actually. It’s a weird shape for most feet, narrower than normal.
@@BacktoBlading yeah tried on a pair size 11 it was alittle better then 10.5 but if i can get 10.5 to be comfy then I wouldnt mind lol like the remz i really want to try so bad but after that 6th toe everyone talking sbout I'm like nope lol but i would change alot like cut the tongue off switch liners and fix water needs to be fix to not get that 6th toe but your talking alot of money to play with and not work
I have been boot fitting at a ski shop for over 5 years. I spend hours with customers to get the right fit. As far as blade liners go just do yourself a favour and get a pair of Intuitions with a good footbed specific to your arch profile. Traditional foam liners are shit. Myfit are a close second. Myfit does a great job in the ski world so maybe in a couple of years their inline skate liners will be up to par
Woah! MyFit makes ski liners? I had no idea.
Yup, they come in Dalbello ski boots...the same company that owns K2 @@BacktoBlading
My toes hurt in my new Aeons , my foot also falls asleep after 15 min of just having my feet in the skates.. I’ve concluded I’ll probably need a new liner otherwise I’ll never get to enjoy the skates
Hey man i have the same problems with my razor cult whites. Think they are like a half size too small or something. Any recommendations on a sub 100 dollar liner?
@@TeeJayPlaysI ended up selling the skates as I was having a really tough time finding liners in my size , most places were sold out in my size and now that summer is almost here I’m gonna be shopping for new skates
Just got sifika