Doctor Reacts to Joel Embiid Torn Meniscus Update
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Joel Embiid has an injured lateral meniscus after the MRI and evaluation. What next?
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@@edkiely2712Would you rather he kiss down? 😏
Report was changed from a "tear" to just an "injury". It's believed it's not a complete tear.
new update is a displaced flap of the meniscus
I don’t believe anything coming out from the sixers and I’m a sixers fan. I think Embiids season is over,
literally was reading about this on twitter and said to myself i hope the sports doctor has a vid and literally the first thing on my recommendations is this
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Literally
Embiid not only had another meniscus surgery on his left knee in 2017, but in 2021 was diagnosed with a meniscus tear in his right knee. The tear in his right knee was iirc treated with physical therapy as it was at the very end of the season 5:47
I’m here to learn. I had 3 knee surgeries. One lateral meniscus and micro fracture.
Nailed it in the last video Doc! Prayers up for Embiid (and my fantasy team)
Everything here is so didactic, really love your videos!
Thank you for the lesson Dr. Sutterer.
People were dogging him for “faking it” too. Hope he heals up quick. He was having a historic season
Please, how many weeks, did they say Embiid is going to be out?
@@greekveteran2715 depends on if he needs surgery. I think 3-4 weeks was the prediction for no surgery but if he does get surgery it could be multiple months
@ParkerCrooks it also depends on if they repair or remove the meniscus. A repair takes alot longer
@@ParkerCrooks I'm a Bucks fn, but I really appriciate him as a player. He indeed had some legendary performances this season,so I'm really sad he got injured.Let's hope he won't need a surgery, it's a very interesting NBA season and I wish, allpeople stay healthy!! Thank you very much for replying! I really appreciate it!
Historically getting hurt every year too.
Great vid thanks for this as always
Thank you. I've watched every minute of Embiids' career and I was worried about this. I appreciate your knowledge 👍
I came running to this channel soon as it happened, this dude is a gem.
Great detailed explanation as usual Brian!
Amazing, clear and profesional explanation ❤
Doctor from the Dominican Republic, heard the Embid news and gladly found out you had a video already, never stop!
Very helpful and insightful.
You lessened my worries. That being said Embiid has been playing through knee issues a longer time this season and came of an MCL last playoffs.
Hopefully they rest him and ramp up before the postseason (if it isn't a surgical repair)...
Rest him and ramp him up? Do you not know who coaches the 76ers right now😂 Nick nurse is known for playing his players to the ground. Starters 35 min+ every game they play. I’d be surprised if Nick nurse rests Embiid like that when he’s back.
Edit : Embiid also wants to be out there dropping at least 30 a night. Pretty obviously Joel is playing to get crazy stats and nick nurse is only enabling him by playing him such high minutes.
@@B0ne835 min is regular started min bro. Stop woth this BS. If you cant even play 60 games then how you gonna help team het good position in the playoffs to go deep?
Lol Sixers are done how many times do you have to see the same story before you can predict the ending.
2 Meniscus injuries surprisingly helped end my Army career
Lucky
Dwayne wade as well and embiid supposedly this is his second
@@JaKingScomez how is that lucky?
@@mentalprograming5365 like doc said in the vid it’s never the same after
@@LastKingLJ free everything. Dont have to work another day
Just can't freaking wrap my head around the mechanism behind ASYMPTOMATIC tears. Baffling. Cheers for all the great work, doc.
It happened to me, there's also even ACL tears that come without pain (though you will definitely see swelling there). Think of the knee as a contraption with many mechanisms, if one is slightly damaged it can carry on working normally, but it'll take a toll on the knee as a whole in the long run.
@@jorgeeduardodussanvillanue46 I'm physical therapist myself mate , I see this and experience it first hand, every day. Even the "long term" part of your comment, I'm not so sure anymore , it's really humbling how many factors come into play (although genetics are king here I think) . The amount of asymptomatic disk herniation that never ever are problematic or problematic again is mond blowing . Or old geezers walking into my practice with severe radiographic knee Osteoarthritis and no or barely any pain. We know nothing lol.
Thanks for clearing Jonathan Kuminga's name doc!
Was Dr S the one given the responsibility of "clearing JK's name?"😂
Keep them out until two weeks to the playoffs, let him get back in shape and rock with the healthiest Embiid possible.
Dr. Brian, thanks for the video. A lot of folks speculate that Embiid's playing style, both his explosiveness/athleticism and his flopping, contributed to this injury. Would you say that's might be the case?
Kuminga should be pretty thankful a professional is using medical science to clear his blame for Embiid's injury.
who cares , it could have been anyone in the situation
Isnt it the right play? Diving for the loose ball?
The more I look into sports injuries, the more I'm amazed at how these sorts of injuries don't happen more often
they do, thats why every off season if your subscribed to nba news half the league is always getting surgery, most of them are guys we had no clue were injured in the season, this is why these guys get paid so much, surgeries are expensive.. surgeons make big bucks off NBA
@@mentalprograming5365 As someone who does follow the NBA, I'm still surprised at how even more injuries aren't occurring beyond the level they're at now. Forced exerted on the knee from odd angles happens multiple times in games/practice, so for someone who's 250+ pounds, 7 feet tall and plays mainly in the post with blunt force being applied to an area of the body with minimal SM coverage, I'm surprised it hasn't happened earlier
Thanks for what you do doc!
Does Joel's history of meniscus tears, recoveries, and observations allow the medical staff to make a more informed decision this time around as opposed to it happening for the first time? Is it possible they have a better idea how he may respond with just rehab vs. surgery since hes gone through it before?
Went from “faking it” to “why did he even play” NBA Twitter for you ladies and gentlemen
Both legitimate questions. He sat out against Jokic yet decided to force it against the warriors so that he didn't miss enough games and cost himself the MVP. He put the MVP over winning a championship. Yet he played 6 straight games before the Denver game and just happened to sit out against Denver. And oh by the way, Maxey and Tobias happened to be out that game as well.
If you're going to sit out the Denver game, sit this one out too. Don't duck the competition then play against the 13th seed warriors.
@@gray_gogy people like to say duck the competition and yet a few days earlier he dropped 41 7 and 10 on Jokic's head in Philly. If he was so "afraid" to play Denver or Jokic would he not have sat out that game too? Make it make sense.
@@gray_gogyit was a game time decision based on how he was feeling during the pre game warm up. So to answer your question, he was feeling fine that day so he decided to play.
@@x_pureHe only plays Denver in Philly, not in Denver. If he misses 4 games in a row (in Denver) he loses the benefit of the doubt
@@vickiwampler9823 who fucking cares where he plays at. I don’t get what the big deal is. It literally makes no sense. They never play in Denver in the beginning of the season always near the end. Of course he’s going to be resting or banged up, when has that not been the case before why would it stop now. He’s going to miss games and he’s going to be injured and idgaf if it’s against Denver in Denver or against the Harlem globetrotters.
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Pouring outa Shirley Temple for my boy.
im tuning in to doc again to see if i should drop him on my fantas team or nah
How can you explain on the videos by using this tools ?
a tear is often best described as a stone in your shoe, it can be just barely affecting your foot and
then disappear to a crevice in your shoe and not be felt for a long time OR it can be embedded in your heel and needs to be removed
Great analogy, especially in the meniscus. I think for ligaments it's a different story, although I even had an ACL tear that only gave me swelling, no pain, and I carried on playing for weeks until the swelling was too annoying. MRI -> Torn ACL and meniscus 😂
Hes DONE for the year. Dont bring him back this season. Close to 300 lbs. Theyre stupid if they rush him back and he has a worse tear which sets him back a full year instead of 6 months
Great video. That is unfortunate but Embiid does spend a lot of time on the floor and falling down, that should increase the risk of getting injured.
Doc is this like shoulder rotator cuff tears? At a certain age if you MRI men's shoulders a large % will have rotator cuff tears.
Can you do Jarred Vanderbilt’s foot injury.
1:04 obviously this play didn’t tear his meniscus. Normal Knee would not be injured at all by what happened there. No load, no great force, foot is not forcing rotation onto the knee, nothing. It had to be already torn.
I tore my medial meniscus on both of my knees first when I was doing plyometrics back in 5th grade the other was during PE in highschool didn't get surgery on both and I can walk and do sports just fine but my knees always pops every time I bend or straighten my knees and sometimes it feels like my bones are kinda grinding at each other lmao 🤣
Michael Jordan had a torn meniscus in 2002. He played 10 games with the injury though the Wizards went 1-9 as he clearly was struggling with it. He then had a surgery and then... tried to play for another seven games AFTER the surgery. However, he was mostly in reserve, as naturally his knees were not agreeing to it. This was all at 38yrs old.
MJ was crazy.
Damn near beat the tweet
Here we go again man. There goes any chance of a Joker/Embiid Finals match up.
Phili wasn't even gonna go that far lol
6ers aren’t making it to the finals lol
6ers we're not going to the finals lol
Wait… are all three of those comments you? lol
They all say basically the same thing lol
Nuggets will crush Milwaukee. The process didn't work and won't.
Can you make video about what happened to your eye??
went back here right after PHI vs NYK 😬
I tore my meniscus in 2022. The pain was crazy
how is it now?
Has Embiid ever not been hurt?
Was the ball under his ankle? If so that would assist extra hyper extending?
No, if you see the video his heel clearly hits the ground and then the dude falls on his knee.
Would prolotherpy work on Embiid’s knee?
But considering his heel is getting pulled under him, wouldnt that cause damage if his toes are getting pushed down as well? With the weight on his knee?
I’m not an Embiid fan but this sucks!
I’m an NBA fan and wants every star to stay healthy even if he plays for a rival team.
As a 14 year old playing travel baseball I slid into second base and felt a pop. Knee hurt pretty bad after and was sore for a few days. About a week and a half later while getting out of a chair my knee popped and I was finished. Medial meniscus tear very painful.
Had a torn lateral meniscus when I was 19 was back to dunking after 1 week and jumped higher than ever after 4-6 weeks
and i got shot 7 times and dropped 50 right after
That's tough bro. Glad you bounced back
@@7eventy4u
doctor, you're out on a tear
Thank you Doc! You gave this Sixer fan at least some clarity of whats going on with our MVP. 💯
If he asks nicely I am sure Jokic and Luka will "load manage" against enough tanking teams (the ones Joel plays against) to have just 64 games played.
The dream aint over yet!
I don't know why he was even playing in that game..
He looked totally drained the whole time. No doubt that 70 point performance a few days ago wore him out. Give him a break already!
Now look what happened. 🤦
40 minutes in a clear win against the second worst team in the league just to make the photo... They're was no 70 waiting in Denver
Against bad teams you should get your teammates to play and score more - like Jokic did against Detroit (he shot the ball in that game just 3 times in his 25min on the court)
you cannot run with some mcl tears. it jams up and you cannot walk period. this ain't a minor injury with mcl they just remove more and more of it.
Its not an MCL tear, its the meniscus
Can you explain Tyrese Halliburton’s voice change in a video 👍👍👍
Hi please keep the basketball world and Philadelphia fans everywhere posted about your views of Embiid and how the team medical staff is managing his care.
*sit him down until March* 🙏
I just hate all the people being crybabies about load management and stuff. Injuries happen, athletes are gonna stay injured, that's normal. Now they're going to use this particular example as an excuse as to why load management needs to exist. They already are.
Honestly this is best case scenario after seeing the pain he was in, we knew it was a bad knee injury but fortunately it’s something he can play through. But I’d rather him sit out for 4+ weeks though, let it heal as much as possible, screw the MVP we need him healthy for the playoffs.
The playoffs where he averages 19 ppg
@@PhenomRom He averages 24 and 11 in the playoffs what are you talking about? And his first 2 appearances he was barely over 20 so he’s more like 27 and 11. He’s played thru injuries almost every single year in the playoffs and still performs great, it’s not his fault they’ve lost.
@@jdaily2293His ppg drops consistently from 34 ppg in the reg season to 23.
That's 11 points a game drop off.
He wasn't injured in the reg season but he was in the playoffs?
@@wtfiswrong1h The game slows down in the playoffs, numbers go down across the board when the scoring is more like the 90s than 20s regular season. But yes he hasn’t been hurt bad in the regular season like in the playoffs, it’s been unfortunate, he always gets hurt at the end of the year. Embiid hasn’t been the problem in the playoffs, it’s been coaching, Ben Simmons, and an incredible shot by Kawhi.
@@jdaily2293 It's called "He doesn't get the fake whistles in the playoffs like he is getting them in the reg season"
He is the James Harden of bigs
Great reg season player
Mediocre post season
And it'd kind of disrespectful to harden cause Embiid would never take KD lead warriors to 7 games
Yeah..Its coaches fault that he shrinks by 11 points in the playoffs 🤦♂️
I have a tear that is described by my doctor as parrot tear. While surgery is not yet recommended, my doctor has informed me that I have a future appointment with a full knee replacement.
That might be a little alarmist. I've had meniscus and ACL tears in both knees, pretty nasty injuries, and not even then did I get a full knee replacement. If you wanna be safe, go for sports with less impact on the knee, I used to play football (soccer in the US) every day, now I play once a week, volleyball once or twice and ride my bicycle everyday.
@@jorgeeduardodussanvillanue46 I also have psoriatic arthritis on the same knee. I had to change my work out to stationary cycling and walking. The arthritis is what's causing the majority of the degeneration. But I plan to hold off on surgery for as long as I can.
When you’re flopping and falling around every other night, you’e prone to injuries…
Thats not why he has this injury. I remember he used to eat cheeseburgers before games. This is where it catches up to you. Especially when youre that heavy you need a strict diet. A lot of these NBA players have poor nutrition.
Isn't he frequently out for a sore knee or swelling?
Exactly, symptoms of meniscal tear 👍🏼
He tore meniscus against the Pacers a couple of weeks ago, somebody find the video.
His knees have always been a problem
Dammit! Going to the floor is so dangerous! Some guys, especially the clumsy or overly aggressive, defensive specialist type guys, just don't care if they land on you. C-mon Embid, you can't let these "hustle players" take you out like this. Man!
1. It is part of how he gets more fouls called
2. Softens the blow of impact on knees vs landing in a normal compressed stance
@@wackozacco7507I know the first reason but the second always seems like it causes more problems. Hitting the floor 12x per game is risky. First of all, he can hurt opposing players. Having a 300lbs land at the feet of 9 other players is a huge risk to their ankles, knees. Falling down so often is dangerous because landing on the hard floor with feet everywhere he can hurt his wrists, elbows, shoulders, etc. And finally , you increase the risk of players tripping on you and falling on you (plus risk for them). Exactly like happened.
but Lakers are still firing Ham right?
Joel Noooooo!!!!
His career is done. I’ve torn my meniscus twice and it’s reoccurring. Worst sports injury there is in terms of moving forward.
Not really, a lot of athletes recover successfully from it. Of course it might reaggravate in the future, but most NBA players come back from this and have successful careers. First one that comes to mind is D-Wade, Tim Duncan also.
@@jorgeeduardodussanvillanue46 I’m over exaggerating the “done part” but he will never be the same. I speak from personal and technical experience as well. You say D-wade, I say D rose. And you see how it can change that quickly. You will see. Joel never the same again.
@@LADcoronary180 I'm just qualifying what you're saying in the end, "worst sports injury in terms of moving forward". It's not even close, ACL, patelar tendon tear, broken tibia, Achilles tear, are all more traumatic and have taken more careers than torn meniscii. Don't forget D-Rose also had an ACL tear. Russ also had a torn meniscus and he came back being super explosive for a bunch of years. A torn meniscus is a significant injury, but it shouldn't derail your career (for most cases, depending on severity). An ACL or Achilles tear can easily end your career.
Did you get surgery?
Mines healed on its on after 11 months of inactivity. It took 4 months before I realized it was actually healing. Due to low blood flow it heals slow.
One why is he laying on the ground why is he diving save that for the lil guards
His black eye is healing up.
It's about the playoffs.....come on
That guy is always hurt
I had a meniscus repair on my right leg 2 years ago from an injury in 2019. My doctor saw that it was relatively small and easily repairable but was super worried due to the long recovery period. Since I had been in pain for over 2 years, I went with it. It took over 9 months + PT to really start feeling like myself. 2 years on and it feels like I never got hurt. I did visit that Dr for a different issue on the other leg, but he panicked, thinking I retore it. He told me he sees way too many cases of people getting surgery only to reinjure that same meniscus in a slightly different area. Thankfully, I am not one of those 😅
I tore my medial meniscus a few years back. They wouldn’t cut me open for 6 months. Made me do pt and try steroid packs to get swelling down. At 6 months I got the repair and took about 8 months after that to feel like myself again. I know multiple people that recovered much faster. I think it depends on where the tear is and how big it is. Keep in mind Embiid is huge and has already had multiple knee surgeries.
I thought they didn't know whether it was torn or not?
It could have even been torn during his 70pt game but he was asymptomatic. It’s not certain when it happened
How will the referees recover
Almost 5 weeks and not a word other than he is lifting weights and doing minimal on court activities
76ers GM: Joel, just play throught it. We are having our best chance to win it all this season.
JE: Any long term health risks for me?
76ers GM: You might leave us anyway so...
So he may have already been playing with it already?? Big yikes.
if he didn’t flop and fall 24/7 he wouldn’t be hurt all the time
Dang I’m one of the first to
Watch; it’s an honor
Embiid done played thru a broken face a torn knee foot issues in the playoffs and we got fans and media claiming he ducking smh i blame them. Can embiid be in better shape? Yes but he’s a 7 footer 280 that can move like a guard we forget he missed his first 2 years in the nba because of injury
Starting to feel like Patrick ewing now
Tim Duncan had this, and came back and won 2 MVP's; and like 3-4 more rings
Tim Duncan was also a lot lighter and had an amazing post up game.
Not to mention embid had a history of knee problems.
Also embid is 30.
Duncan was young when that happened.
If I had to bet this is the Start of Embid's decline.
I thought Joel was in his rookie year.
Tim Duncan wasn't fat
@@Christopher._MDuncan never choked in the playoffs
@@komaddog
If you look at the number of total games played (even against tanking teams) he is like a sophmore.
Something was wrong with that knee prior to that as well, you can see a knee sleeve under his leggings.
100 percent was already damaged before the fall on the leg.
Why NBA teams not hiring this guy?
For sure had an injured meniscus before that play, there’s a play way before that where he tried to block podziemski and his knee just gives out.
Warriors younglings learned the first law of Zaza Draymond I see
Dray litterly did nothing. Get a life
@@tyreek.6815 Are you denying that Draymond was dirty all these years?
@@abouttime2569 name a player Draymond got injured on his dirty plays.
@@rsre8317 Somebody has to actually get injured to be dirty? Are you serious? Think before you talk.
Yup. Thought the same thing. Kuminga didn't have to land on his knee like that. Teach em young.
Can someone install Neuralink into Joel Embiids knee. 😂😂😂😂
Do you think Neuralink could fix his flopping too?
So he can get Spotify straight to the knee?
Who’s still worried about treating Covid 🙄
Was Joel's absence @Denver the other night related to a meniscus issue?
There's $75K riding on the answer.
well they knew its a knee thing but probs didnt know its meniscus
@@stefanpapdi5151 The league...I mean TV...was butt-hurt by being denied the match-up of the last two MVP's.
The Sixers probally informed the league the reason behind Embid's late scratch and for their trouble were docked the $75K fine.
Doesn't matter. That 70k has to do with not following procedures disclosing injuries.
That whole "probable, questionable and injured" is super critical and can make millions$$ of difference for the most important people. Not fans or opposing teams but gamblers. So when you don't let them know the risks and potential injuries it affects their odds. THAT is why injury list are serious business and they got fined.
They are not questioning the validity or seriousness of injury. Fine was to 76ers for failing to report.
He’s gona get surgery, it’ll be 2 months of healing time and physio.
Why the fuck do we have this 65 game rule when random bench warmers can sit on MVP legs and remove them from All NBA and postseason awards
Embiid really is Mr. Glass, shame.
did he lost his chance to get his first season mvp?
He got it last season
He has a career’s worth of falling down for calls so I’m not surprised this giant is riddled with chronic injuries.
Seriously? Covid-19? Wow.
First and this is sad to hear