@@xavierb9061I think your missing the point of the comment. It’s not saying he shouldn’t be drawing a lot of fouls, it’s saying that it’s crazy that he’s DRAWING more fouls than hack-a-shack. That means people are somehow unintentionally fouling Embid more than they were intentionally fouling Shaq. Which is crazy because they intentionally fouled Shaq so much they came up with a name for it.
@@xavierb9061the whole game plan was to send Shaq to the line as much as physically possible, they’re trying their best to not foul embiid and he is still getting more, please explain how that makes sense in your dense head
There is no question that superstar calls exist, and I don't think anybody criticizes him purely on the fact that he gets them. And it's not just the fact that they don't work in the play-offs where he hasn't proven himself. It's mostly the amount at which he gets them, and the fact he falls everytime someone touches him. In the clips you showed of MJ and Shaq, yes those weren't fouls to call, but they also didn't over exaggerate the contact. Shaq often seems rather confused that the whistle is blown. I remember a Nuggets game where Jokic was in the paint and someone slapped him on the arms, not even close to the ball, and the ball slipped out of his hand, his first instinct was to get the ball back. Where as Embiid in those situations tosses his arms up and cries for a call.
This was always Harden's problem as well, he sells it so hard that he basically has to make it seem that he can't continue playing. When calls are tougher to come by in the playoffs then this tactic just takes you out of the play. As a Blazer fan, as much as I loved Lillard he became more like that in his career as well. His first couple seasons his fg% at the rim wasn't great because he was getting knocked around and not getting calls, then he learned to sell contact better and was rewarded for it, but there were a lot of times that came back to bite him.
true but you could say the same thing for harden. however, with harden he at least tried to create contact a lot of the time. my issue with embiid is he acts like he was just shot when he feels even the slightest bit of contact. that’s not basketball.
The problem with Embiid is not his high FT attempts per game, it is his intention to take fouls in every single possession instead of getting buckets. He prioritizes taking a foul over everything else. Focus on his FGs. Usually, nobody is around him so there is nothing to do other than taking a free shot. Superstar calls isn't a new concept but prioritizing taking fouls at this level is a *new* concept.
That’s just not true ? “Usually, nobody is around him so there is nothing to do other than taking a free shot” That’s hyperbole, if you look at the any Embiid game he takes plenty of contested shots. Just say you don’t like Embiid.
It's also about intention. He's 280 lbs of muscle but getting bounced around like a ragdoll every time anyone puts a finger on him? Obviously ridiculous. If he just played the game and went up strong with normal shots, he wouldn't be getting this much hate. Harden got hate because his whole style of play was with the intention of getting calls, not just playing ball, and now Embiid is doing the same. Shaq just went up strong and if they fouled him, they fouled him. Sure he got some superstar calls too, but he didn't play specifically TO get those calls. That's when you lose people's respect.
@@SirCruxful I love shaq game play. Its even crazy how Nash can even got MVP in Kobe Shaq Era. But things like that what i love about Pros Basketball. But... right now.. omg flopping around.
One of my favourite Harden fouls was someone whiffing the tip of his beard, which was waxed forward from his chin to make it easier for someone to touch. This of course caused Harden to collapse as if taking a haymaker to the nose.
@@billbill6576 It's hard to breath in Denver due to the elevation. Good luck beating Denver at home when your entire team are gassed to the gills and their team is used to it and are still fresh. Tonight Bucks played Denver at home. Neither superstar Giannis or Dame ducked Jokic. Giannis played like his dominant self 31 pointss 11 rebounds but Dame was visably gassed in the 4th. He couldn't make a layup to save his life. Bobb Portis strugged the most he started the game shooting 0-9 from FG but Bucks defense look much improved unter Doc and they only lost by 4 points.
That guy who had a “where’s embid” piece of paper is crazy. He had it ready even though Embid wasn’t on the injury report and ducked out 5 minutes before the game. They knew he was gonna duck Jokic in Denver. Pathetic
Insane. He afraid of how bad he gonna look like when placed directly next to the Joker. Dumbell Embid is gonna get exposed if he plays a game against Jokic and gets squashed. Everybody sees a man pretending to try while the other actually makes it. For real, brother. I think the NBA today is full of players who pretend to play. Too many scorers. Guys just putting up numbers to get the new contract next year. Yet they all meltdown like ice in the sun during the playoffs. CP3, Devin Booker, Joel, Ben Simmons and Harden... We all get buckets some how, but never win rings. In my humble opinion, even KD has turned into one of these players.
There is nothing to be ashamed of avoiding a game in Denver. NBA gives every player right to skip 17 games. Embiid is just being smart by using those for Denver (and some other difficult away games). Also, Embiid doesn't entirely avoid Jokic. He can play against Jokic anywhere with normal altitude.
Dude failed to recognize Giannis has led the league 3 out of past 4 years in free throws and Shaq, harden, Durant, Giannis, Kobe and harden all had their best years leading the league in free throw attempts Your point is invalid.
reality dosent lie - despite being such a 'superstar' player, he's never made it past the second round nor does he match his regular season performances in the post season@@chriscus3683
@@chriscus3683 really? There isn't a correlation with free throw merchants in the playoffs. Harden, cp3, Joel, even Trae young. All have history of playoff failure.
One thing that people tend to overlook is, how nobody really wants to defend players who are this eager of drawing fouls. Such players have incredible freedom of movement and often wide driving lanes or uncontested middies. Come playoff time, refs stop calling marginal contact and such players have very hard time to even convert a layup.
This also being the case in an era where it has literally never been easier to get into the paint and you have Embiid with 36 ppg… shameful from the NBA.
Exactly, Embiid is just a bigger version if Harden. They have the exact same style of play. I can't believe people are falling for it again by just looking at his stats and not watching the games. @@derekhayter4879
What annoys fans the most is not the fact that he gets so many FTA, but his intentions on any play he is in. The footage u showed about shaq or MJ getting insane FT actually tell the truth: they got more FT cause they were superstars, but didn't actively flop or trying for FT, but rather just got them, whereas Embiid (and prime JH) put they whole body in a way that's going to fool the ref and give them FT when there was no contact or reason to get them.
the problem is that basket it's a game of contact but basically all the contacts are foul, that's crazy, plus the fact that the defense can't do anything because of the politically correct and all the other things that driving the nba to a family friendly content, makes this weird scenario where there is the most offensive talent ever with the less defense ever and this it's simply boring, they need to bring back some defense.
Now I need a video about Luka's 73 point performance. Please make it happen, everybody else is just complaining about the defense, nobody is willing to give him his flowers.
@@Billiamswrd Or he's too big/violent to dispute...but nobody wants to play in his games. Also, in the park you might have somebody disputing calls who has actually stabbed people lol.
This is what I hate about modern youtube. "Joel Embiid Caught Cheating!" And also "Is Joel Embiid cheating? No" Your content is always exceptional man, you don't need to stoop to that level of clickbait
It works once. Once my trust is betrayed by clickbait, I not only stop watching your channel, but I click "Don't recommend channel" so I never see you again. So congrats Jimmy, you got one extra view on this video, in exchange for me never watching your channel again.
Getting superstar treatment and abusing superstar treatment are very different in the eyes of the fans. Failing in the playoffs piles up on top of that. It also doesn't help people like him when he is "injured" on all tough away games.
@@objectoriented3049 he's always injured when he has a tough away game, just like we're always told he was injured after he gets eliminated in the playoffs
Also, Shaq got those advantaged calls without flying all over the court like he been shot by a canon... the calls just went his way. Kobe practiced the rip through when players reached in. Embiid and Harden reach their arms out to initiate contact and flail around. Unfortunately, at 300lbs, it's a little extra silly to see Joel dive to the ground when a 180lb guard reaches in on him.
@@CollarToCollarno, we’re saying players like kobe mj shaq or even modern players like bron and steph still are making basketball plays, not flailing around prioritizing FTs over FGs
The first clip you showed actually IS a foul, but on Embiid. He hooks the defender's arm at the very start of the clip. That's an offensive foul. That's right, it's even worse.
That's what I thought. I was super confused when he said it wasn't a foul. It took me the other two to realize he was only talking about defensive fouls.
I saw a breakdown of one of his "trick plays" where, if the defender gets a hand between Harden's arm and his body, _at all_ , Harden clamps him down with his left (non-shooting) elbow and then throws up any kind of shot to get the call. They ran enough examples where you could tell it was a deliberate and well-practiced "move". Also amazing was how often those foul-drawing shots he took went in. Fine player, nasty plan of attack, but he never took into account how the refs change in the playoffs. Woopsie!
Not surprised the Warriors live behind the three-point line. How often do you see foul calls get called theirs while Joel lives in the paint and the mid rang game and constantly gets tripled team. Using ur brain shouldn’t be this hard for u right?🧠🤦🏻♂️😞☠️smh
@@chandler4rittenhouse you right but you still comparing 1 man to and entire team, saying they live behind the free throw line only works if you compare teams against teams.
@@chandler4rittenhouse that "living behind the 3-point line" bs works when you're comparing fta between players or a single game, not a player vs qn entire team during a freaking regular season lol Get those cameroonian balls out of your mouth or you're gonna choke!
I think one of the reasons why people care more if Embiid gets favorable calls is because he goes out of his way to get those calls. Jordan and Shaq knew they get favorable calls but didn't go out of their way to abuse them the same way Embiid/Harden do. Even though MJ and Shaq both knew they would get better calls if they did but they didn't .But Embiid and Harden are fully aware that they get favorable calls and go out of their way to abuse them.
Good point. And at least w/ Harden, you could see some of the things he pulled were clearly well-conceived and rigorously practiced. I ended up almost respecting him, because it wasn't just wild flopping and flailing and complaining. Well, not all of it, anyway, and they took away a couple of those moves. Embiid? Flopping and flailing and complaining. Can't stand the guy.
@@Trollificusv2lets not forget that harden would have won in 2019 if it wasnt for cp3 injury or his team missing 27 straight threes, only guy to take the fucking golden state avengers to a game 7, embiid would never
That’s worse, it mean that MJ or Shaq were heavily favored, because if i was the ref i would call a lot of these fouls he showed on Embiid or Harden because there is an actual contact, even if it’s initiated by them, if you are the ref and don’t have the same point of view as us watching from TV it can be hard to tell, but the fouls on MJ and Shaq we saw on the clip ? There is no contact, or little to no contact you can see it from a mile away, so who’s worse, for me its MJ especially, that guy got so many calls for nothing but when Lebron get assaulted by 3 people in the paint and still find a way to score they call him soft 😂😂😂
@@Anthonydu01630 Some of it isn't just the refs like those players but those players like MJ and Shaq built up reputations on being unstoppable once they got into the paint and teams put up very real strategies of we're going to hit them hard/intentionally foul to disrupt them. I think that put a general mindset into the refs of playing it safe rather than sorry by always giving those players the benefit of a doubt. As in Jordan went up and the shot was way off mark. Well then it had to be a foul. I don't think that is necessarily worse then superstars going out of their way to get foul calls because at least there is logical reasoning that leads to the ref giving them the benefit of a doubt. Also don't get me wrong there were times where you could see Shaq and Jordan play up some contact to get a foul call as well. Also LeBron is a terrible example to use because he gets tons of superstar calls as well and is also known to go chasing calls similar to Harden.
The difference between the shaq and embiid career high is that shaq attempted 24 free throws when opposing teams wanted him on the line. Embiid made 21 free throws when no opponent wants him on the line.
Yes but what people also don't realize especially if you don't watch the sixers is he actually does get fouled all the time, the issue is he's elite at the midrange so you can't just leave him alone but he's also 7ft so he will just shoot over you, you have to be somewhat physical to really have an affect on him and plus he is a master at dropping the ball low and as soon as a player reaches in boom he goes to shoot. Like it or not it's not embiids fault it's the "modern" nba
“You better not stand too close Mike, Larry. Or you will get a foul called on you”. Magic to Bird and Jordan during their Sports Illustrated Dream team cover shoot. Those words possessed d a lot of truth in them.
one thing is "superstar calls" and the other is being the tallest and heviest player on the floor every night and fly 3 meters away and land ridicoulously every time someone is near you
I think personally if the rules don't get stricter someone's going to drop a 100 point game like we are getting 70 points game so often with guys like Luka and Embid.
Refs need to be held accountable and be fined when they give horrendous calls like we made SO MUCH improvement in the sport tech industry with video refereeing, sensors, ultra 4k with slow motions enable It's impossible to miss anything. I know that referees make the game more interesting even if they can make bad calls due to human error but GOD DAMN just use the tech and everything would get better. (and of course the player should stop flopping or at least get punched by refs if they see it)
They are untouchable (as a whole not as individuals) as they can alter outcomes for gambling platforms. Money always dominates. They will continue to be protected and there’s seemingly nothing that can be done about it. It’s hurting the sport far worse than anything else.
@@willweaver5541players suffer by being kicked out of the league. You get punished for poor work performance. Simple. But I think it's too blunt an instrument. We'd soon have no refs if they were fined for every single mistake they make.
This is why I like Jxmy’s videos. He can accept and give valid criticisms about the current era, while also addressing those same issues from the older eras to show that these aren’t new concepts 😂
Yes, this isn't a new concept and specific to Embiid. But what makes Embiid special is that he takes fake fouls in the ugliest way possible. He is so used to flop that sometimes he falls down when his teammates contact and still expects a foul call. Joker and Giannis are also superstars. They also have advantage with no-calls and phantom calls. But the way they play doesn't look ugly as Embiid's. So it's not like this is a very common thing among superstars. Embiid does it in an extreme level that disturbs the average NBA fan.
I like Jxmy's video too but this one he is very selective. Comparing selectively Embiid to MJ or Shaq, the most dominant players of their own era, in the matches that matters. Like others pointed out Joker is actually the performer coming play off time, and the treatment he received from refs comparing to Embiid is night and day. What did Embiid do so we compare him to MJ or Shaq in the first place? Yet he receives much more favoured calls, for a player who always chokes in the playeoffs. People dont see this being a fair treatment thats why people dont like him. He is a great scorer, but until he does something meaningful in the playoffs, he is very much a scoring meme at this point.
@@fanfan9748 One theory is the following. Refs give favored calls to Embiid in purpose only to make fun of him in the playoffs where refs suddenly become fair again. Embiid is the player with the largest discrepancy between regular and post season performance. It's not even close. Even a championship ring + a FMVP won't fix this perception easily. He has to dominate in the same way that Jokic dominated last year (with better stats than regular season).
Dude failed to recognize Giannis has led the league 3 out of past 4 years in free throws and Shaq, harden, Durant, Giannis, Kobe and harden all had their best years leading the league in free throw attempts Your point is invalid.
I honestly think the other reason we're hard on Embiid is because we have another superstar that gets about half the calls Embiid does, but drops similar numbers each night, and now has proven it in the post season. We compare him with Jokic. And I think that's fair.
@@udishomer5852 SGA is getting tons of calls as well. The guy is sometimes shooting more FT than FG. Last year SGA had 10.9 TF per game. This year 9 FT per game, but in last 6 games he averaged almost 15 FT per game. Crazy.
Luka basically the real leading scorer in the NBA by far and he was last year aswell. Embiid averaging like 4 free throws more+ Luka taking out of this world harder shots while being the most double teamed per possesion player by far and still averaging 4 more assists than Embiid. Yeah Luka averages a bit more minutes than Embiid, but let's be real..Embiid doesnt even play back to back games. Imagine him playing back to back games 40+ minutes
I think the biggest difference between the players you showed is the way they get those easy calls. Yes Michael and Shaq were favoured by the refs as well, but they were not hunting cheap fouls like Harden and Embiid
That’s worse, it mean that MJ or Shaq were heavily favored, because if i was the ref i would call a lot of these fouls he showed on Embiid or Harden because there is an actual contact, even if it’s initiated by them, if you are the ref and don’t have the same point of view as us watching from TV it can be hard to tell, but the fouls on MJ and Shaq we saw on the clip ? There is no contact, or little to no contact you can see it from a mile away, so who’s worse, for me its MJ especially, that guy got so many calls for nothing but when Lebron get assaulted by 3 people in the paint and still find a way to score they call him soft 😂😂😂
@@Anthonydu01630 Some of it isn't just the refs like those players but those players like MJ and Shaq built up reputations on being unstoppable once they got into the paint and teams put up very real strategies of we're going to hit them hard/intentionally foul to disrupt them. I think that put a general mindset into the refs of playing it safe rather than sorry by always giving those players the benefit of a doubt. As in Jordan went up and the shot was way off mark. Well then it had to be a foul. I don't think that is necessarily worse then superstars going out of their way to get foul calls because at least there is logical reasoning that leads to the ref giving them the benefit of a doubt. Also don't get me wrong there were times where you could see Shaq and Jordan play up some contact to get a foul call as well. Also LeBron is a terrible example to use because he gets tons of superstar calls as well and is also known to go chasing calls similar to Harden.
@@insidejah9293 I mean MJ did get favorable calls. There is no doubt about it. That being said part of the history of that is because there was a real league strategy of intentionally fouling Jordan every time he made it to the paint. This made refs almost always lean towards giving Jordan the foul call. Don't get me wrong there were times Jordan played up contact, especially in his later years, to get the foul call but there is history on why Jordan got the calls he did.
The NBA literally punishes teams for playing any kind of defense. Defense isn't weak in today's game, the rules just don't allow teams to play effective defense because even the slightest bit of contact regardless of who initiates contact will be called a foul. You know it's bad when players just drive to the hoop not even looking for the layup and purposefully wraps their arms around the defensive player and get awarded two free throws
Yeah, okay, superstar calls and what not. Why does Jokic not get the same calls then? Why is it that one time he actually did get a lot of free throws, the opposing team's coach went mad, and people went mad and called him a flopper?
@@joelemsexy true, nobody says he should get EXACTLY the same amount of calls / FTs. But it's sometimes ridiculous when he doesn't get calls. Gotta be objective here
@@joelemsexy Not nearly as aggressive ..what are you talking about he leads the league with points in paint xD holy crap ...where did you put your brain ...
He forgot to talk about how embiid this year has been ducking against all the teams with a winning record. He plays all the bad teams and has only played half the games against teams over 500.
@@THECRAZYGUITARBOYwell duh he leads the league in points and gets fraudulent free throws ofc he’s gonna lead the league against teams +.500 in the like 6 games he’s played against them
Jxmy, your video journalism ability is truly incredible. Professionally I’ve worked in the commercial marketing realm for 5+ years and can honestly say your hard work and natural marketing ability truly shines through in all your stuff. Just wanted to say that. Have a good one and keep cooking bro.
The man has perfected "dont hate the player, hate the game" motto. NBAs gotta crack down and find a middle ground. Fouls are a part of the game. There has to be a middle ground between the 80s literal violent assault "fouls" and whatever Embiid is getting.
The NBA do that every year, "We have new rules against flopping." But if they enforce it at all, its just for the start of the season and then they stop GAF.
I think if the league just enforced tighter carrying and traveling calls it would do a lot to change this. Right now defenders have a hard time keeping up with players being able to essentially duck and dive and quick step in 360 degrees of direction that it leads to a lot incidental contact from a defender that has to always be recovering. Of course that will lead to more stoppages and less offense and I'm not sure the league wants that.
Can someone explain to me how Lukas stats right now are easily 3rd debatable 2-1 best performances but he’s #5 in the mvp race right now. Does record really have that much poll?
Love luka more than anyone. I'm slovenian. Luka is not an mvp. He's far from mvp. His team is shit and he can't lead. Luka winning mvp would be a disgrace for the league
Not sure AI should be in the same conversation as Harden and Embiid concerning “falling flat.” Harden and Embiid have had plenty of help while AI had 34yo Dikembe and Eric Snow
Putting AI in the same category as foul merchants is disrespectful on a whole other level. He actually went against the kobe shaq lakers and was still a menace. Sure he didn’t win a title but neither did any other superstar back in 2000-2002
@@masonwelsh9718 Thought it was odd too, even James Harden can make the case he got stopped by the Warriors every year like DeMar and the Raptors got stopped by LeBron like everyone else. The Sixers been getting stopped by the Heat lol, not the same.
13:00 Come on AI does not deserve this slander. He took the Sixers without a second star to the finals against a stacked Lakers team and still managed to win a game. Harden and Embid have never come close to that. EDIT: For those bringing up Harden in 2018, I said: "without a second star". Harden had CP3 until game 6. Who was the Sixers' second-best? Exactly. You don't know unless you search it up.
@@MoltenNineI mean if phantom calls get called on whoever is guarding you and he gets on foul trouble of course the defense isn’t gonna be as tight, even getting rid of ft points doesn’t rid Embiid of the accusations lmao
exactly this. I would not have an issue with Embiid if Jokic got the same bs calls all the time, but Jokic has to get murdered to get to the line. Its insane.
1. European 2. Doesn't "play the game" outside the court (media shit) 3. Not flashy, just good basketball 4. Being one of the best while looking like he is half awake makes other superstars and entire league look like a joke.
It’s not because Embiid’s cheating. It isn’t because of the MVP award, It’s his inability to perform the way he performs IN THE PLAYOFFS, WHEN IT ACTUALLY MATTERS!! That’s what people have rightfully been holding against him.
Joel Embiid's Playoff Injury History: 2023 (Knee Sprain), 2022 (Orbital fracture, concussion, torn thumb ligament), 2021 (Torn meniscus), 2019 (Knee tendinitis), 2018 (Orbital fracture, concussion). Has missed 7 of 54 playoff games in his career.May 1, 2023
That on top of his inability to Take accountability. When he dropped 17 on terrible shooting in an elimination game and then blammed his teammates for his shitty performance I knew he was a fraud.
Joker has never posted above 26 PPG for a season, Embiid and Giannis have both posted above 30 every season since the 2020-2021 season. You don't have to be a basketball fan to understand basic math. Two of those players are their number one scoring options, the other is a playmaking genius. Why are we even comparing their games other than the fact that their both 7 footers? This culture of hyper ignorant modern nba fans is weak as fuck lol
@@ingry Ironic because what you just said is incorrect. Jokic has averaged over 26 PPG twice in his career, in 2021 and 2022. He’s been the top scorer on the nuggets every season since 2018. Just because Jokic is the best playmaker on the team, doesn’t mean he isn’t their best scorer either. He’s both and has been for a long time. You didn’t explain why he doesn’t get more free throws and that’s because his play style is different. Also, their games are compared all the time lol did you just start watching the NBA? It’s funny how you say this culture of NBA fans is hyper ignorant and yet you sound like the ignorant one here 😂
Allen Iverson? That dude won a Finals game by himself against the prime Kobe-Shaq Lakers (with the iconic step over on Tyronn Lue). No way is he in the same conversation as Harden and Embiid.
Yeah he’s dirty and a free throw merchant, but for people to demonise his 70 point game for free throws is stupid, nearly all the high scoring games have this many, Jordan’s 69 was on 23 fta and making 21 of them, Jordan’s 63. vs celtics had 21 fta, Kobe’s 81 had 20 fta, mitchell had 25 fta on his 70, they’re all getting well over 40 without free throws, that is a terrible argument to demonise his amazing performance
Fun fact: Before there was "Hack a Shaq" there was "Hack a Wilt". Fouling Wilt had an even better effect and Wilt would get phantom offensive fouls called against him constantly. That's how insane Wilt was. They abused and changed the rules to make it harder for Wilt.
@@mattforbes221 And people nowadays think he is overrated because he only wins 2 rings. How tf is he going to win more when the league kept changing rules against him?
@@lucashigdon4488 It's not about the Lakers... it's about Lebron teams... Lebron has had favor from the NBA commission since forever... they wanted to make him bigger than Jordan by force and they have miserably failed cause he's not even close to that level of greatness... but the Lakers wouldn't be getting half the fouls they get if LePampered wasn't there...
@@sportschool3537 Is it that you didn't watch the video or is it that you disagreed with it? Because LeBron wasn't on that Shaq team. And the most controversial game for foul calls in history is the Lakers-Kings playoff twenty years ago or so, also pre-LeBron.
@@gandydancer9710 What does that have to do with the fact that Lebron has been pushed by refs for 15 years in a row? You're talking about one game... I'm talking about 15 fucking years which is a whole era of basketball!!! And that one game has NOTHING to do with the Lakers... the story is that the Lakers were so dominant that the fans were bored and the TV ratings were tanking and that series being competitive had the highest ratings since MJ's finals in 98 so Stern literally fixed the game to go to a game 7 to make more money... Lebron's games have dogshit ratings anyway and he still gets pushed by refs...
@@sportschool3537 Your claim was "It's not about the Lakers... it's about Lebron teams" and I demonstrated that that is patently false. AND you've claimed that Strern fixed games for ratings, but also claim that LeBron gets bad ratings. The incoherence of your beliefs is amazing.
Iverson was never viewed as a choke artist. He was just either always on terrible teams or his ego would get in the way. Sacrificing offensive hustle might have led to better team chemistry, but he didn't get that particular memo. That doesn't mean he "choked." His game was just too unique for an organization to build a solid team around his salary. Choke? This is the guy who led the only team who beat the Lakers in the 2001 Finals. Iverson had a scrappy, sometimes inconsistent style of play, but he always left 100% on the floor. He got banged up more than anyone, so he wasn't drawing unearned fouls.
Same reason Curry doesn’t. NBA doesn’t want them overshadowing their preferred narratives ahead of the new TV deal/negotiations. Watch the refereeing get somewhat more consistent after that’s locked in & there’s no risk to letting parity determine who makes the playoffs. Edit: They’re still gonna have the ref gambling allegations to contend with though.
I hate that you said AI came up short, he performed well in the regular season and postseason, it is more about supporting cast for him, compared to Harden and Embiid coming up short performance and had the personnel to be succesful.
@greysongotzmer4126 I'm talking about in terms of coming up short (no pun intended) in the playoffs should not apply to AI because he exceeded his lower level teammates and took his team to a finals and Embiid over AI is crazy big bro. When the accolade doesn't Embiid have over Allen Iverson.
For me, Joel Embiid reminds me of James Harden when he was in his prime. Embiid can go crazy, no one can guard him and if they get close, they are called for a foul, but when it’s playoffs, there is always a reason. Either he’s injured, bad team, or chokes bc it’s the playoffs. Edit: should’ve watched the full video before I made this comment since you made that comparison, but none the less, the play style is the same
But the dude seriously hasn’t been healthy for a playoff series due to his incredibly high usage rate in the regular season because his teams were so bad with him off the court. This year is going to be very different because the Sixers are have a very good core and great coaching.
Embiid gets injured every year and Harden faced the most competition ever before the finals.. they aren't chokers just the most unluckiest NBA players of all time
Wait, wait , wait...Allen Iverson absolutely did not disappear in the playoffs. Go back and rewatch the games, he was, year after year for about five years, the most exciting player to watch, with absolutely the most heart you could ask for. He had very little help, and his teammates would disappear, production wise. Year after year, the only reason Philly was anywhere near the playoffs was him, and he was the only reason to watch his team. And his playoff averages were pretty damn good. Also, single handedly (almost, nod to Deke) stopped the Lakers from sweeping the playoffs in 2001. Seriously, find some of his old playoff games and watch...he was fucking amazing.
Harden was like this for so many years in the playoffs. Both hardens and embiids performances for almost EVERY single elimination game of their careers is literally horrible
Yall be constantly saying that bs when embiid has been injured for most of his playoffs runs he hasn't been as lucky with injuries as harden like yall can't be serious
Video request: what are the real differences between regular season and playoff officiating? Is that the main thing that contributes to guys like Harden and Embiid failing?
I’d say it’s a mix of more physicality allowed PLUS the other team learning how to avoid fouls. If your tactic revolves around calls, the other team can usually figure out a new game plan after 1-2 games. It’s the studying of the other teams that makes playoffs another level of play
I think a part of it is, refs don't want to make too many of those phantom "superstar" calls and then have to face questions and the next game is between the same 2 teams, and the game after that. It's too easy for a refs' name to become part of the story, and nobody wants that.
This was a great video… my only addition would be that the data showing super stars get more incorrect calls going their way in the last two minutes would definitely be skewed because the sample size of non star players shooting or handling the ball in key moments during the last two minutes of a game is extremely small compared to superstars
If you read the article, you see that the difference isn’t actually all that big. 20% isn’t a huge number, and the raw data numbers look a bit more natural
The 20% is based on actual bad calls, not the number of attempts. It's irrelevant how many are taken. The data is infallible. 5% would be a lot, 20% is mind-blowing.
11:06 just coming here to say that there is a difference between relative and absolute. There were a 20% relative increase, but the absolute difference was 0.96%
-- Agree. Random: I was listening to a NPR story about juicing in baseball. This one guy pointed out that fringe MLB players juicing made sense. Without it, they would probably be out of the league. However, it bothered the same guy when Superstars were juicing b/c they didn't need to use steroids. They were already hitting 20-30 HRs a season, but now? 40-50HRs.
"He looked at me funny" fouls are the reason NBA< EuroLeague. NBA has become so soft, not saying we should got back to the '90s with felony assault level fouls but the NBA 'manhood' has become weak sauce.
Some other things to note JxmyHighroller. - The LAL are shooting 233 more FTA's this year than ANY other team in the NBA while driving not nearly close to as much as other teams in the league. - SGA is an extreme foul merchant that throws his head back on every single drive to the basket, it's bordering on Embiid's level (this season).
And the warriors are dead last in free throw disparity despite the myth of them only relying on 3s and never driving to the basket being probably, statistically false. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Mdautkreixliterally I vividly remember lakers fans using one and the only excuse they had of “lakers drive more” yet this season and that game yesterday the warriors drove more yet the lakers had 2.7x more fta 💀 I swear only laker fans don’t realize how the nba gives them that treatment
He is a foul merchant which is really weird because he is so damn strong but you can argue that it's really smart because big guys typically don't get the calls like they should.
double edged sword. Embiid relied too much on it. It's basically killing our chance to win anything because his scoring drop. Also, he needs to keep playing against bigger team rather than farming them spurs, hornet, and Piston. He is asking to get injured by someone at this point and I don't want it.
@@hijisfriend9030 The scoring drop isn't free throw related though, throughout his career he averages 1-2 less free throws in the playoffs than the regular season. It's his inability to be healthy in the playoffs, because he's been injured in all but one post season and that was the bubble. Despite being injured 5/6 post seasons he's missed 7 of 54 playoff games.
I've actually been dubious of the so-called "superstar-call," so it's really interesting and impressive to see that someone did the math and proved that it really exists. Having said that, I still think that most people massively overemphasize both the importance and the level of prejudice of those bad calls. The video is actually a bit misleading on that point. If you pause the video at 10:50, the article says that the difference between superstars and non-stars, whose calls also account for the vast majority of calls in games, is actually about half as wide as the gap between stars and superstars, about 10% instead of 20%. That 10% difference basically means that for every 10 bad calls that go the way of a role player, a superstar gets 11. It definitely shows up in the data, but it's not exactly an earth-shattering difference.
it's actually quite a lot if you count it over a season & career. And I think superstars get even more preferential calls for the first 46 min of the game.
I could guarantee you that wilt wasn’t flopping around. If you go back to the reports wilt was being triple-quadruple teamed and was hard fouled. He was a notorious bad free throw shooter similar to Shaq. Wilt got 30 free throws because they wanted to foul him, it’s just this time he made em’. Embiid is more of a James harden searching to get to that line and flopping.
He also plays against defence that isn't allowed to touch him lol. Embiid doesn't sit under the rim like chamberlain did yet he still gets 12 free throws per game. Soft like charmin
He's a great player. The issue for me is that his game is focused on drawing these fouls. If he was just playing naturally and got the fouls, that would be a different story.
Games today are so unpleasant to watch today even highlights are miserable, the fact players this good arent winning chips or getting to the conference finals shows the results of this playstyle...
In my opinion, even if every Superstar gets preferential treatment, most of them don't go looking to abuse that. And i think we should really call out the nba and the refs for this plus the silly fouls they give in general. Anyways i love the videos. Keep it up!
Further proof that jokic vs embiid was never a debate. Duck the good teams stat pad to look good and then fail to make it out the 2nd round. Jokic really got robbed for not having any playoff success by a guy who has played with many all stars and never beat a good team in the playoffs or made it out the 2nd round. Imagine ducking a team for 5 years..
@@Six10demigod_5 Embiid is a clown who is scared to play against Jokic xdd, it truly never was a debate, Jokic owns Embiid and in the playoffs, Embiid will choke once again while Jokic will lead his team
The key difference between what Embiid is doing vs other superstars is that he is not even trying to score. Lebron gets favorable calls when he drives to the rim but he isn't doing so for a call. Embiid gets the ball and then tries to get a foul call instead of a basket.
The chart he showed had Lebrons call rate at -3.1 percent meaning he wasn’t getting fouls called. The refs have never been on Lebrons side minus a handful of games every season.
I've seen enough flopping from Lebron to know that he most certainly drives looking for calls... Most players of that style tend to do that but the flopping puts him, Harden and Embiid on a different tier.
My biggest issue isn’t that Embiid is scoring, it’s how he’s scoring. Fouls are the most subjective part of the game of basketball, as they rely on the ref’s judgement to call. Abusing this system is just completely immoral to me because of this, and that’s the biggest problem I have with how he scores.
Fun fact, if fouls didn’t exist, he still leads the league in scoring. People just ignore it because his face up midrange game is so automatic they don’t even notice.
Stil hate that he got the MVP last season. He won because Perkins started that racial bullshit, Jokic deserved his hat trick MVP's & he proved it in the post-season
Agree. AI was a one man scoring machine. Though, he had a chip on his shoulder, he also had bad luck with his teammates. Never matching his energy and intensity of the game.
it’s not even the phantom fouls when Embiid is on offense. When Embiid is on defense, he hacks so many guys and nothing is called. I have never seen a man be awarded so many calls in my entire life
This conversation always makes me wonder why some great players DONT get the calls that other great players get. Both LeBron and Steph seem to get less calls than they should and I could not tell you why that is.
This seems...suspect at best to me. There's like a 10 minute video of just LeBron travelling and having it not be called. Not saying he's not getting incorrect calls in his favor, but 10 minutes of uncalled travelling is pretty excessive.
the most obvious comparison is Joker who gets no superstar treatment for free throws (of course his game is different but still). Another famous guy in the past who never got calls while being literally pushed is Jeremy Lin.
@@Processing321Giannis averages less ft attempts per game as is trash at making them, Embiid is a near 90% ft shooter, you tell me who’s leeching more points off of free throws
@@aohjii i mean its the same load management we've been seeing these past few years that's why the nba implemented measures against it. Embiid is probably the only one who's still doing it
It's crazy how 6 of the top 10 games ever according to game score are from games either this season or last season. 2 luka games (his 73 at number 2 and his 60/20/10 at number 10) Embiids 70 at number 4, Donovan Mitchells 71 at 5, Lillards 71 at number 7, and GIannis's 64 at number 8. crazy to me how 70 points isn't even considered unreal anymore
Still why I think Jamal Murray’s 50 points in Cleveland without a free throw is one of the most impressive games ever
Amen.
Preach
That's amazing
Big facts
not many people know that as well, super slept on performance
Embiid "drawing" more fouls than hack-a-shack is straight CRAZY.
The 7ft guy with handles weighing 290 and can shoot from 3 and drive, probably going to be hard to stop without fouling. Lol these casuals.
I believe this was when the leagues pace was at its slowest.
@@xavierb9061you watch first 30 seconds of the video and still comment this. Brain empty
@@xavierb9061I think your missing the point of the comment. It’s not saying he shouldn’t be drawing a lot of fouls, it’s saying that it’s crazy that he’s DRAWING more fouls than hack-a-shack.
That means people are somehow unintentionally fouling Embid more than they were intentionally fouling Shaq. Which is crazy because they intentionally fouled Shaq so much they came up with a name for it.
@@xavierb9061the whole game plan was to send Shaq to the line as much as physically possible, they’re trying their best to not foul embiid and he is still getting more, please explain how that makes sense in your dense head
Fun fact Embiid has never averaged over 23 PPG on seasons where he didn’t lead or have the second most amount of free throw attempts
well that explains somethin.
fun fact jokic is a slob who is washed
you gotta do what you gotta do
Floppers be flopping
@@dfallen4ngel 🤓
There is no question that superstar calls exist, and I don't think anybody criticizes him purely on the fact that he gets them. And it's not just the fact that they don't work in the play-offs where he hasn't proven himself. It's mostly the amount at which he gets them, and the fact he falls everytime someone touches him. In the clips you showed of MJ and Shaq, yes those weren't fouls to call, but they also didn't over exaggerate the contact. Shaq often seems rather confused that the whistle is blown. I remember a Nuggets game where Jokic was in the paint and someone slapped him on the arms, not even close to the ball, and the ball slipped out of his hand, his first instinct was to get the ball back. Where as Embiid in those situations tosses his arms up and cries for a call.
Jokić & Embiid are turning into a really fascinating case of contrast
Facts
This was always Harden's problem as well, he sells it so hard that he basically has to make it seem that he can't continue playing. When calls are tougher to come by in the playoffs then this tactic just takes you out of the play. As a Blazer fan, as much as I loved Lillard he became more like that in his career as well. His first couple seasons his fg% at the rim wasn't great because he was getting knocked around and not getting calls, then he learned to sell contact better and was rewarded for it, but there were a lot of times that came back to bite him.
BRO THIS CURRY AINT EVEN GETTING CALLS IN MEMPHIS IF IT WAS EMBID HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A FLAGRANT
Karma exist too
The problem with embiid for me is on a chunk of the calls he gets he’s not even really looking to score when he gets fouled he’s just chucking it up
To be fair, that's everyone. Embiid just gets foul calls more, so people see it more
true but you could say the same thing for harden. however, with harden he at least tried to create contact a lot of the time. my issue with embiid is he acts like he was just shot when he feels even the slightest bit of contact. that’s not basketball.
Then just like Harden, playoffs come around and he wonders why he's not getting gifted trips to the line.
my biggest problem is people who comment on these videos and dont even watch them.....
It’s like you’ve never watched basketball before lol
The problem with Embiid is not his high FT attempts per game, it is his intention to take fouls in every single possession instead of getting buckets. He prioritizes taking a foul over everything else. Focus on his FGs. Usually, nobody is around him so there is nothing to do other than taking a free shot. Superstar calls isn't a new concept but prioritizing taking fouls at this level is a *new* concept.
Playing the foul, not the game. Its an epidemic in the modern league.
The problem is that in the playoffs they don't call those same fouls which just makes it even more infuriating, because we know they can do better.
That’s just not true ? “Usually, nobody is around him so there is nothing to do other than taking a free shot” That’s hyperbole, if you look at the any Embiid game he takes plenty of contested shots. Just say you don’t like Embiid.
Bruh even without his FTs he would have scored 50. You diss a guy with his capabilities? Why?
@@aznbond3279 Yes, it means he failed to take a foul and got an intentional basket instead.
It's also about intention. He's 280 lbs of muscle but getting bounced around like a ragdoll every time anyone puts a finger on him? Obviously ridiculous. If he just played the game and went up strong with normal shots, he wouldn't be getting this much hate. Harden got hate because his whole style of play was with the intention of getting calls, not just playing ball, and now Embiid is doing the same. Shaq just went up strong and if they fouled him, they fouled him. Sure he got some superstar calls too, but he didn't play specifically TO get those calls. That's when you lose people's respect.
This.
shaq also would elbow the shit out of defenders
I'm sure he loses sleep at night after losing your respect 😢 go lose your virginity
@@SirCruxful I love shaq game play. Its even crazy how Nash can even got MVP in Kobe Shaq Era.
But things like that what i love about Pros Basketball. But... right now.. omg flopping around.
One of my favourite Harden fouls was someone whiffing the tip of his beard, which was waxed forward from his chin to make it easier for someone to touch. This of course caused Harden to collapse as if taking a haymaker to the nose.
It is now more important to look like you’re getting fouled, versus actually getting fouled.
Told some kids while coaching YMCA bball not to reach because the sight of foul gets called. If it looks like a foul...
it has been like that for a while actually
@@jasonroyyoungthat’s sad because now the new gen will essentially not care about being great defensively I blame the refs and the league
Embiid not playing a game in Denver since November 2018 is actually wild
2019
@@milanradojkovic3818still a long ass time
2019, but yes... 5 years!? Insanely coincidental!?
Afraid of the joker
@@billbill6576 It's hard to breath in Denver due to the elevation. Good luck beating Denver at home when your entire team are gassed to the gills and their team is used to it and are still fresh. Tonight Bucks played Denver at home. Neither superstar Giannis or Dame ducked Jokic. Giannis played like his dominant self 31 pointss 11 rebounds but Dame was visably gassed in the 4th. He couldn't make a layup to save his life. Bobb Portis strugged the most he started the game shooting 0-9 from FG but Bucks defense look much improved unter Doc and they only lost by 4 points.
That guy who had a “where’s embid” piece of paper is crazy. He had it ready even though Embid wasn’t on the injury report and ducked out 5 minutes before the game. They knew he was gonna duck Jokic in Denver. Pathetic
😂 🎯
Insane. He afraid of how bad he gonna look like when placed directly next to the Joker. Dumbell Embid is gonna get exposed if he plays a game against Jokic and gets squashed. Everybody sees a man pretending to try while the other actually makes it. For real, brother. I think the NBA today is full of players who pretend to play. Too many scorers. Guys just putting up numbers to get the new contract next year. Yet they all meltdown like ice in the sun during the playoffs. CP3, Devin Booker, Joel, Ben Simmons and Harden... We all get buckets some how, but never win rings. In my humble opinion, even KD has turned into one of these players.
There is nothing to be ashamed of avoiding a game in Denver. NBA gives every player right to skip 17 games. Embiid is just being smart by using those for Denver (and some other difficult away games). Also, Embiid doesn't entirely avoid Jokic. He can play against Jokic anywhere with normal altitude.
Maybe, other superstars (e.g., Giannis today) should also avoid their game in Denver.
@@berryesseen you're 'smart' when leaving your team in the lurch in tough away-games?
5:19 this layup was the funniest thing ever. Bro ran up, elbowed a man, and just chucked a the ball lmaoooo
Lmao didn't even notice it 🤣
That looks like every lbj highlight to be fair
and then proceeds to drop to the floor
Draymond got suspended for something similar while Embiid gets 2 FTs
Dude failed to recognize Giannis has led the league 3 out of past 4 years in free throws and Shaq, harden, Durant, Giannis, Kobe and harden all had their best years leading the league in free throw attempts
Your point is invalid.
I can't wait for the playoffs when the phantom foul calls dry up and Embiid flames out in the 2nd round again. It's gonna be great to watch.
This narrative doesn’t even make sense considering he averaged 9.3 free throws per game in last years playoffs
@@DrewBob_you gotta ignore these people , it’s always the casuals that think they know what they’re talking about
reality dosent lie - despite being such a 'superstar' player, he's never made it past the second round nor does he match his regular season performances in the post season@@chriscus3683
@@chriscus3683 really? There isn't a correlation with free throw merchants in the playoffs. Harden, cp3, Joel, even Trae young. All have history of playoff failure.
@@BreadVanVleet Embiid averages about the same amount of free throws per game in the playoffs
One thing that people tend to overlook is, how nobody really wants to defend players who are this eager of drawing fouls. Such players have incredible freedom of movement and often wide driving lanes or uncontested middies. Come playoff time, refs stop calling marginal contact and such players have very hard time to even convert a layup.
good cause fk embid and his bum ass style of play.
This also being the case in an era where it has literally never been easier to get into the paint and you have Embiid with 36 ppg… shameful from the NBA.
Is my music fire?..
That's why players like James Harden and Embiid suck in the playoffs. Refs don't blow their whistles
Exactly, Embiid is just a bigger version if Harden. They have the exact same style of play. I can't believe people are falling for it again by just looking at his stats and not watching the games. @@derekhayter4879
This is why I like Jokic. When a guy only averages 6 FTA per game, he won’t be impacted by less calls in the postseason.
Plus he's white. lol
@@Binnieisherewhat does that have to do with anything
A shot by Jokic is the NBA competition committee’s example of flopping.
@@mghJD Jokic is not a ft merchant, cry
@@johon127 Most of his fanbase are white people plus the fact most NBA fans are from the white demographic as well.
What annoys fans the most is not the fact that he gets so many FTA, but his intentions on any play he is in. The footage u showed about shaq or MJ getting insane FT actually tell the truth: they got more FT cause they were superstars, but didn't actively flop or trying for FT, but rather just got them, whereas Embiid (and prime JH) put they whole body in a way that's going to fool the ref and give them FT when there was no contact or reason to get them.
And Shaq didn't even get calls for every time he was hacked. If he had, opposing teams would have had three big men foul out every game.
why you acting like lebron, steph, dame, sga, and so many other superstars dont do the same
@@afrojacker9because they weren't in the video lmao
the problem is that basket it's a game of contact but basically all the contacts are foul, that's crazy, plus the fact that the defense can't do anything because of the politically correct and all the other things that driving the nba to a family friendly content, makes this weird scenario where there is the most offensive talent ever with the less defense ever and this it's simply boring, they need to bring back some defense.
Facts
RUclips put the ad at exactly the right moment. "Referees tend to swallow"
**commercial break**
"Their whistles"
Now I need a video about Luka's 73 point performance. Please make it happen, everybody else is just complaining about the defense, nobody is willing to give him his flowers.
He is on it im sure
He had a 45/9/15 last night in a comeback he's my mvp
luka had the 2nd best game score rating ever, he has to do a video.
was dissapointed when i saw this video tbh, wanted another Luka video
Shit was lame asf and bogus! The league is soft asf face it. Enjoy watching these watered down ass games! It’s a disgrace
I legit think our 2on2 Games in the park are closer to the actual rulebook than the NBA.
I mean embiid plays like the dude who’s constantly calling foul and no one cares enough to say anything
@@Billiamswrd Or he's too big/violent to dispute...but nobody wants to play in his games. Also, in the park you might have somebody disputing calls who has actually stabbed people lol.
Hot or not so hot take: the amount of players travelling without calls is directly proportionate to nonexistent fouls being called.
Based take actually, if you change the rules of the game you literally have to CHANGE the rules of the game
Im nr sure if thats a take bc it sounds like somthing you coukd put into a metric
no really tho the traveling is crazy
You dont hoop
Hot take: Embiid is the epitome of what NBA fans don't want. AND Ben Simmons is a better player than he is
This is what I hate about modern youtube.
"Joel Embiid Caught Cheating!"
And also "Is Joel Embiid cheating? No"
Your content is always exceptional man, you don't need to stoop to that level of clickbait
Totally agree
Well it works Becoz I was not gonna Watch this Vid but then I saw the title and did 😭
It works once. Once my trust is betrayed by clickbait, I not only stop watching your channel, but I click "Don't recommend channel" so I never see you again.
So congrats Jimmy, you got one extra view on this video, in exchange for me never watching your channel again.
I watched Embid play live at OKC earlier this season and the fake foul calls were so obvious, I was legitimately shocked at what I saw.
Yea they actually were fouls too. Can't hand check or interfere with a players shooting motion.
Getting superstar treatment and abusing superstar treatment are very different in the eyes of the fans. Failing in the playoffs piles up on top of that.
It also doesn't help people like him when he is "injured" on all tough away games.
CRY CRY CRY CRY CRY
He is injured though...
@@objectoriented3049 he's always injured when he has a tough away game, just like we're always told he was injured after he gets eliminated in the playoffs
played on a sprained mcl what’s the quotations bud
Also, Shaq got those advantaged calls without flying all over the court like he been shot by a canon... the calls just went his way. Kobe practiced the rip through when players reached in. Embiid and Harden reach their arms out to initiate contact and flail around. Unfortunately, at 300lbs, it's a little extra silly to see Joel dive to the ground when a 180lb guard reaches in on him.
Refs were on la and Miami's payroll
So ur saying kobe was allowed to do it because he practiced baiting fauls but embiid isn’t allowed to do the same thing just because hes a center?
@@antdoge29they have always been on LA and recent laker games show that they are still the golden child
@@CollarToCollarno, we’re saying players like kobe mj shaq or even modern players like bron and steph still are making basketball plays, not flailing around prioritizing FTs over FGs
@@CollarToCollarKobe did it because players would genuinely have to foul him so he practiced to make sure he got the calls, embiid they aren’t
The first clip you showed actually IS a foul, but on Embiid. He hooks the defender's arm at the very start of the clip. That's an offensive foul. That's right, it's even worse.
That's what I thought. I was super confused when he said it wasn't a foul. It took me the other two to realize he was only talking about defensive fouls.
@@wesleyking6713so was the 2nd clip. Embiid pushes the guy in the back to get the rebound before they called a foul. Shits wild.😂
The Harden clips you chose had me dying lmfao. Him drawing fouls is hilarious lmao.
That head snap of his looks ridiculous, like he's having a mini seizure on the court flicking his beard up to the ceiling lmao
I saw a breakdown of one of his "trick plays" where, if the defender gets a hand between Harden's arm and his body, _at all_ , Harden clamps him down with his left (non-shooting) elbow and then throws up any kind of shot to get the call. They ran enough examples where you could tell it was a deliberate and well-practiced "move". Also amazing was how often those foul-drawing shots he took went in.
Fine player, nasty plan of attack, but he never took into account how the refs change in the playoffs. Woopsie!
Bro has more ft attempts per game then the WHOLE Warriors team LMAOOO
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Not surprised the Warriors live behind the three-point line. How often do you see foul calls get called theirs while Joel lives in the paint and the mid rang game and constantly gets tripled team. Using ur brain shouldn’t be this hard for u right?🧠🤦🏻♂️😞☠️smh
@@chandler4rittenhouse you right but you still comparing 1 man to and entire team, saying they live behind the free throw line only works if you compare teams against teams.
@@chandler4rittenhouse that "living behind the 3-point line" bs works when you're comparing fta between players or a single game, not a player vs qn entire team during a freaking regular season lol
Get those cameroonian balls out of your mouth or you're gonna choke!
@@chandler4rittenhouseeven then one player beating a team in free throw attempts is stupid
I think one of the reasons why people care more if Embiid gets favorable calls is because he goes out of his way to get those calls.
Jordan and Shaq knew they get favorable calls but didn't go out of their way to abuse them the same way Embiid/Harden do. Even though MJ and Shaq both knew they would get better calls if they did but they didn't .But Embiid and Harden are fully aware that they get favorable calls and go out of their way to abuse them.
Good point. And at least w/ Harden, you could see some of the things he pulled were clearly well-conceived and rigorously practiced. I ended up almost respecting him, because it wasn't just wild flopping and flailing and complaining. Well, not all of it, anyway, and they took away a couple of those moves.
Embiid? Flopping and flailing and complaining. Can't stand the guy.
@@Trollificusv2lets not forget that harden would have won in 2019 if it wasnt for cp3 injury or his team missing 27 straight threes, only guy to take the fucking golden state avengers to a game 7, embiid would never
That’s worse, it mean that MJ or Shaq were heavily favored, because if i was the ref i would call a lot of these fouls he showed on Embiid or Harden because there is an actual contact, even if it’s initiated by them, if you are the ref and don’t have the same point of view as us watching from TV it can be hard to tell, but the fouls on MJ and Shaq we saw on the clip ? There is no contact, or little to no contact you can see it from a mile away, so who’s worse, for me its MJ especially, that guy got so many calls for nothing but when Lebron get assaulted by 3 people in the paint and still find a way to score they call him soft 😂😂😂
@@Anthonydu01630facts😂
@@Anthonydu01630 Some of it isn't just the refs like those players but those players like MJ and Shaq built up reputations on being unstoppable once they got into the paint and teams put up very real strategies of we're going to hit them hard/intentionally foul to disrupt them.
I think that put a general mindset into the refs of playing it safe rather than sorry by always giving those players the benefit of a doubt. As in Jordan went up and the shot was way off mark. Well then it had to be a foul.
I don't think that is necessarily worse then superstars going out of their way to get foul calls because at least there is logical reasoning that leads to the ref giving them the benefit of a doubt. Also don't get me wrong there were times where you could see Shaq and Jordan play up some contact to get a foul call as well.
Also LeBron is a terrible example to use because he gets tons of superstar calls as well and is also known to go chasing calls similar to Harden.
The difference between the shaq and embiid career high is that shaq attempted 24 free throws when opposing teams wanted him on the line. Embiid made 21 free throws when no opponent wants him on the line.
Great point
That is, basically, mentioned and explained in the video
Yes but what people also don't realize especially if you don't watch the sixers is he actually does get fouled all the time, the issue is he's elite at the midrange so you can't just leave him alone but he's also 7ft so he will just shoot over you, you have to be somewhat physical to really have an affect on him and plus he is a master at dropping the ball low and as soon as a player reaches in boom he goes to shoot. Like it or not it's not embiids fault it's the "modern" nba
“You better not stand too close Mike, Larry. Or you will get a foul called on you”. Magic to Bird and Jordan during their Sports Illustrated Dream team cover shoot. Those words possessed d a lot of truth in them.
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one thing is "superstar calls" and the other is being the tallest and heviest player on the floor every night and fly 3 meters away and land ridicoulously every time someone is near you
And then he wonders why he's hurt all the time - maybe don't fall to the floor like a felled tree when some 6'3" point guard breathes on you?
@@archangel357 Thats to prevent injury in the knees and ankles
He hasn’t been called for a flopping call once this season and ur still tryna put this bs narrative out smh
@@ruhinchakravarty2155 they've barely been making those flopping calls though
@@ruhinchakravarty2155That's the most absurd part about this. He hasn't been called for flopping ONCE. Thats why all fans hate Embiid
I think personally if the rules don't get stricter someone's going to drop a 100 point game like we are getting 70 points game so often with guys like Luka and Embid.
They are really good basketball players. Please acknowledge that.
@@jefeseason4990They’re good.. but no one plays defense either. And it’s by design by the league.
@@darthsilversith667more foul calls been called so there is still defense
@@darthsilversith667if you look at Lukas game for 73 the hawks pick and roll defense was the worst I’ve ever seen. Barely any contests at the rim too
Lukas was a genuinallt amazing game not embiids though
Refs need to be held accountable and be fined when they give horrendous calls like we made SO MUCH improvement in the sport tech industry with video refereeing, sensors, ultra 4k with slow motions enable It's impossible to miss anything.
I know that referees make the game more interesting even if they can make bad calls due to human error but GOD DAMN just use the tech and everything would get better. (and of course the player should stop flopping or at least get punched by refs if they see it)
If refs were fined for bad calls this wouldn’t be a problem
They are untouchable (as a whole not as individuals) as they can alter outcomes for gambling platforms. Money always dominates. They will continue to be protected and there’s seemingly nothing that can be done about it. It’s hurting the sport far worse than anything else.
Bro, the league tells the refs to do this. It’s an issue with the NBA itself, not the refs
Most of the time refs don't make bad calls on purpose. Fining the refs for bad calls would be like fining players for missing too much
@@willweaver5541players suffer by being kicked out of the league. You get punished for poor work performance. Simple. But I think it's too blunt an instrument. We'd soon have no refs if they were fined for every single mistake they make.
Them bronsexuals cheating and lakers with them free throws lol
This is why I like Jxmy’s videos. He can accept and give valid criticisms about the current era, while also addressing those same issues from the older eras to show that these aren’t new concepts 😂
Yes, this isn't a new concept and specific to Embiid. But what makes Embiid special is that he takes fake fouls in the ugliest way possible. He is so used to flop that sometimes he falls down when his teammates contact and still expects a foul call.
Joker and Giannis are also superstars. They also have advantage with no-calls and phantom calls. But the way they play doesn't look ugly as Embiid's. So it's not like this is a very common thing among superstars. Embiid does it in an extreme level that disturbs the average NBA fan.
I like Jxmy's video too but this one he is very selective. Comparing selectively Embiid to MJ or Shaq, the most dominant players of their own era, in the matches that matters. Like others pointed out Joker is actually the performer coming play off time, and the treatment he received from refs comparing to Embiid is night and day. What did Embiid do so we compare him to MJ or Shaq in the first place? Yet he receives much more favoured calls, for a player who always chokes in the playeoffs. People dont see this being a fair treatment thats why people dont like him. He is a great scorer, but until he does something meaningful in the playoffs, he is very much a scoring meme at this point.
@@fanfan9748 One theory is the following. Refs give favored calls to Embiid in purpose only to make fun of him in the playoffs where refs suddenly become fair again. Embiid is the player with the largest discrepancy between regular and post season performance. It's not even close. Even a championship ring + a FMVP won't fix this perception easily. He has to dominate in the same way that Jokic dominated last year (with better stats than regular season).
Nah
Dude failed to recognize Giannis has led the league 3 out of past 4 years in free throws and Shaq, harden, Durant, Giannis, Kobe and harden all had their best years leading the league in free throw attempts
Your point is invalid.
I honestly think the other reason we're hard on Embiid is because we have another superstar that gets about half the calls Embiid does, but drops similar numbers each night, and now has proven it in the post season. We compare him with Jokic. And I think that's fair.
We also have Luka, Giannis and SGA.
The league is full of great players and Embiid's play-style is not appealing, at least to me.
The ppg difference between Embiid and Luka is wholly accounted for by the FT disparity, which is kinda sad
@@SentientTeapot2444Luka is also not ducking any team because Mavs barely win even when he has to play 45 mins.
@@udishomer5852 SGA is getting tons of calls as well. The guy is sometimes shooting more FT than FG. Last year SGA had 10.9 TF per game. This year 9 FT per game, but in last 6 games he averaged almost 15 FT per game. Crazy.
Luka basically the real leading scorer in the NBA by far and he was last year aswell. Embiid averaging like 4 free throws more+ Luka taking out of this world harder shots while being the most double teamed per possesion player by far and still averaging 4 more assists than Embiid. Yeah Luka averages a bit more minutes than Embiid, but let's be real..Embiid doesnt even play back to back games. Imagine him playing back to back games 40+ minutes
It will be very interesting to watch Joel Embiid play for team USA in the 2024 Olympic Games with Fiba rules and no given “superstar” calls
You can already see that happening in the playoffs. It's just gonna get worse playing in FIBA rules.
Embiid is on a mission to flop his way to another MVP
Hell I saw something that said if he misses six more games he will be ineligible.
jokic is fat
@@Mista808 you're the racist if you can't tell the difference between kendrick perkins and joel embiid.
Few years and a couple race cards and ya never know 😂
@@neilbrons529nah that race card has become an epidemic lol
I think the biggest difference between the players you showed is the way they get those easy calls. Yes Michael and Shaq were favoured by the refs as well, but they were not hunting cheap fouls like Harden and Embiid
That’s worse, it mean that MJ or Shaq were heavily favored, because if i was the ref i would call a lot of these fouls he showed on Embiid or Harden because there is an actual contact, even if it’s initiated by them, if you are the ref and don’t have the same point of view as us watching from TV it can be hard to tell, but the fouls on MJ and Shaq we saw on the clip ? There is no contact, or little to no contact you can see it from a mile away, so who’s worse, for me its MJ especially, that guy got so many calls for nothing but when Lebron get assaulted by 3 people in the paint and still find a way to score they call him soft 😂😂😂
@@Anthonydu01630 MJ fans are eeriely silent in the comment section 🫥
@@Anthonydu01630 Some of it isn't just the refs like those players but those players like MJ and Shaq built up reputations on being unstoppable once they got into the paint and teams put up very real strategies of we're going to hit them hard/intentionally foul to disrupt them.
I think that put a general mindset into the refs of playing it safe rather than sorry by always giving those players the benefit of a doubt. As in Jordan went up and the shot was way off mark. Well then it had to be a foul.
I don't think that is necessarily worse then superstars going out of their way to get foul calls because at least there is logical reasoning that leads to the ref giving them the benefit of a doubt. Also don't get me wrong there were times where you could see Shaq and Jordan play up some contact to get a foul call as well.
Also LeBron is a terrible example to use because he gets tons of superstar calls as well and is also known to go chasing calls similar to Harden.
@@insidejah9293 I mean MJ did get favorable calls. There is no doubt about it. That being said part of the history of that is because there was a real league strategy of intentionally fouling Jordan every time he made it to the paint. This made refs almost always lean towards giving Jordan the foul call. Don't get me wrong there were times Jordan played up contact, especially in his later years, to get the foul call but there is history on why Jordan got the calls he did.
@@Anthonydu01630did you watch the vid? All superstars get superstar calls. Yes that counts phantom calls on Embiid, as seen in the video.
The NBA literally punishes teams for playing any kind of defense. Defense isn't weak in today's game, the rules just don't allow teams to play effective defense because even the slightest bit of contact regardless of who initiates contact will be called a foul. You know it's bad when players just drive to the hoop not even looking for the layup and purposefully wraps their arms around the defensive player and get awarded two free throws
Nailed it, defenders can't breathe on a player without a foul
This is why I like 90s basketball more.
Secret dirt on Adam Silver is my favorite theory
Yeah, okay, superstar calls and what not.
Why does Jokic not get the same calls then? Why is it that one time he actually did get a lot of free throws, the opposing team's coach went mad, and people went mad and called him a flopper?
Jokic isn’t nearly as aggressive of a scorer as guys like harden, young and embiid who get these calls, that’s pretty obvious
@@joelemsexy true, nobody says he should get EXACTLY the same amount of calls / FTs. But it's sometimes ridiculous when he doesn't get calls. Gotta be objective here
@@joelemsexy Not nearly as aggressive ..what are you talking about he leads the league with points in paint xD holy crap ...where did you put your brain ...
@@joelemsexy my friending, WATCH GAMES. Almost every damn game there's at least 5 obvious fouls on Jokic that refs don't call
@@joelemsexy yet he looks like he fought with bears and lions when you look at his arms after every game lol
He forgot to talk about how embiid this year has been ducking against all the teams with a winning record. He plays all the bad teams and has only played half the games against teams over 500.
Are you serious? He averages more points ago+.500 teams than any other player…
He literally leads the league in PPG against playoff teams
@@THECRAZYGUITARBOYwell duh he leads the league in points and gets fraudulent free throws ofc he’s gonna lead the league against teams +.500 in the like 6 games he’s played against them
@@THECRAZYGUITARBOYHe picks and chooses what games he plays and only plays some teams over .500 when Philadelphia have home court
@@zombievikinggaming4258just say ur a casual and move on
as soon as embiid and luka dropped 70+ ive been on the edge of my seat for this jxmy vid
Same! Can’t wait for these charts and graphs 📊
Luka isn’t nearly as bad as Embiid
Yes he is@@MattKirk007
At least Luka only had 16 free throw attempts. He also only missed like 8 shots the whole game it was unreal
@@SparkyForce "Only 16 attempts" just say you're bias
Jxmy, your video journalism ability is truly incredible. Professionally I’ve worked in the commercial marketing realm for 5+ years and can honestly say your hard work and natural marketing ability truly shines through in all your stuff. Just wanted to say that. Have a good one and keep cooking bro.
The man has perfected "dont hate the player, hate the game" motto. NBAs gotta crack down and find a middle ground. Fouls are a part of the game. There has to be a middle ground between the 80s literal violent assault "fouls" and whatever Embiid is getting.
The NBA do that every year, "We have new rules against flopping."
But if they enforce it at all, its just for the start of the season and then they stop GAF.
I think if the league just enforced tighter carrying and traveling calls it would do a lot to change this. Right now defenders have a hard time keeping up with players being able to essentially duck and dive and quick step in 360 degrees of direction that it leads to a lot incidental contact from a defender that has to always be recovering.
Of course that will lead to more stoppages and less offense and I'm not sure the league wants that.
Can someone explain to me how Lukas stats right now are easily 3rd debatable 2-1 best performances but he’s #5 in the mvp race right now. Does record really have that much poll?
it looks like it does although everyone says it doesnt also all star game is based on teams results not individual performance
Love luka more than anyone. I'm slovenian. Luka is not an mvp. He's far from mvp. His team is shit and he can't lead. Luka winning mvp would be a disgrace for the league
Sub par defense
@@bgdgdgdf4488 agreed. I think Luka will for sure get MVP sometime in his career, but definitely not this year
@@bgdgdgdf4488you know ball. Respect
The other issue is because how many fouls he draws teams have to guard off of him making it significantly easier to score
Not sure AI should be in the same conversation as Harden and Embiid concerning “falling flat.” Harden and Embiid have had plenty of help while AI had 34yo Dikembe and Eric Snow
Embiid had whom exactly?
@@s_ame1135 Jimmy butler, Ben simmons , Maxey , Harris, Reddick, James Harden
@@xenkokuo8588 Harden is the only perennial star from what you mentioned and even that is sketchy. AI also had Melo.
@@s_ame1135 ah yes Melo . The known and renowned playoff performer Carmelo Anthony that has passed the first round 2 times in 13 tries .
Cuz AI play style doesn't work with a good lineup based on thinking basketball analysis
Putting AI in the same category as foul merchants is disrespectful on a whole other level. He actually went against the kobe shaq lakers and was still a menace. Sure he didn’t win a title but neither did any other superstar back in 2000-2002
This.....I was like... WTH Jimmy. Lol
This the one.
Iverson didn't get over the hump, but he 100% showed up when it mattered
Gotta cosign this right here. I will not stand for the AI slander.
@@masonwelsh9718 Thought it was odd too, even James Harden can make the case he got stopped by the Warriors every year like DeMar and the Raptors got stopped by LeBron like everyone else. The Sixers been getting stopped by the Heat lol, not the same.
This is a crazy title😭
Homie ain’t even watch the video, but he calling out the title 😂😂. Ngl that’s why I clicked earlier than usual, lmfao.
Good title
His gf never clicked so fast
@@VictoriesAtTheMarathon Jimmy has even said he puts up misleading titles just because.
Crazy good
13:00 Come on AI does not deserve this slander. He took the Sixers without a second star to the finals against a stacked Lakers team and still managed to win a game. Harden and Embid have never come close to that.
EDIT: For those bringing up Harden in 2018, I said: "without a second star". Harden had CP3 until game 6. Who was the Sixers' second-best? Exactly. You don't know unless you search it up.
Harden also went toe-to-toe game 7 against the juggernaut 2018 GSW. Harden had his share of playoff disappointments but Embiid still have it worse.
Now what If AI was in the same conference as the Lakers?.. (Like Harden was with the GSW).. HE WOULD NEVER HAVE A FINALS APPEARANCE CLOWN
You took the words right out my mouth (pause). Absolutely unnecessary and a cheap shot.
You mean the league hosed the Bucks on calls to put AI in the finals.
harden literally won 3 games against the golden state warriors, wtf ru talking about????
Mkbhd plugged your video on his Apple headset review…dope
Y'all ready to talk about the fact Embiid has dodged the Jokic matchup in Denver 4 years in a row?
Has anyone checked under Embiid's bed?
@@Reoh0zhave u??
5 years actually
@@vyyr !
He was literally gonna play but the Philadelphia medical staff took him out lmfao
Luka being 2nd on game score by only .6 after the 73 is really insane.. I can't wait for the video on that
If you get rid of points scored from free throws for every player in the league Embiid still scores the 2nd most ppg
@@MoltenNinewhat the hell does your comment have to do with his 😂 are you confused
@@MoltenNineI mean if phantom calls get called on whoever is guarding you and he gets on foul trouble of course the defense isn’t gonna be as tight, even getting rid of ft points doesn’t rid Embiid of the accusations lmao
it was cause his teammates kept missing layups and Luka got less assists. Should have had a triple double if his team didn't choke so hard.
i think the game in 2nd was the 60-20-10 game
Now do a video why some players like Jokic don't get the foul calls
exactly this. I would not have an issue with Embiid if Jokic got the same bs calls all the time, but Jokic has to get murdered to get to the line. Its insane.
Bro has scars for the last 3 years, they are drilling the nails into his arms so much its disgusting...
1. European
2. Doesn't "play the game" outside the court (media shit)
3. Not flashy, just good basketball
4. Being one of the best while looking like he is half awake makes other superstars and entire league look like a joke.
Now do 1 on how the Lakers & Celtics shoot way more free throws than any other team in the NBA
It’s not because Embiid’s cheating. It isn’t because of the MVP award, It’s his inability to perform the way he performs IN THE PLAYOFFS, WHEN IT ACTUALLY MATTERS!! That’s what people have rightfully been holding against him.
I mean if you watched the video you'd see that Jxmy said all of that already lol
Joel Embiid's Playoff Injury History: 2023 (Knee Sprain), 2022 (Orbital fracture, concussion, torn thumb ligament), 2021 (Torn meniscus), 2019 (Knee tendinitis), 2018 (Orbital fracture, concussion). Has missed 7 of 54 playoff games in his career.May 1, 2023
@@johon127he just wrote it here😂😂😂
That on top of his inability to
Take accountability. When he dropped 17 on terrible shooting in an elimination game and then blammed his teammates for his shitty performance I knew he was a fraud.
I think embiid is playing this hard to validate last years mvpity award by winning an undoubtable one
I still don't understand how him and Giannis gets so many more ft's than Jokic.
Joker has never posted above 26 PPG for a season, Embiid and Giannis have both posted above 30 every season since the 2020-2021 season. You don't have to be a basketball fan to understand basic math. Two of those players are their number one scoring options, the other is a playmaking genius. Why are we even comparing their games other than the fact that their both 7 footers? This culture of hyper ignorant modern nba fans is weak as fuck lol
@@ingry Ironic because what you just said is incorrect. Jokic has averaged over 26 PPG twice in his career, in 2021 and 2022. He’s been the top scorer on the nuggets every season since 2018. Just because Jokic is the best playmaker on the team, doesn’t mean he isn’t their best scorer either. He’s both and has been for a long time. You didn’t explain why he doesn’t get more free throws and that’s because his play style is different. Also, their games are compared all the time lol did you just start watching the NBA? It’s funny how you say this culture of NBA fans is hyper ignorant and yet you sound like the ignorant one here 😂
@@ingrylmao you’re a clown😂
@@ingryyour wrong he has averaged more and jokic whoops them in other stats as well cry a river bum
Because people foul giannis and embiid more than they foul jokic. Why is that hard to understand?
Allen Iverson? That dude won a Finals game by himself against the prime Kobe-Shaq Lakers (with the iconic step over on Tyronn Lue). No way is he in the same conversation as Harden and Embiid.
Yeah no way he lumped AI in with them 💀
Yeah he’s dirty and a free throw merchant, but for people to demonise his 70 point game for free throws is stupid, nearly all the high scoring games have this many, Jordan’s 69 was on 23 fta and making 21 of them, Jordan’s 63. vs celtics had 21 fta, Kobe’s 81 had 20 fta, mitchell had 25 fta on his 70, they’re all getting well over 40 without free throws, that is a terrible argument to demonise his amazing performance
Fun fact: Before there was "Hack a Shaq" there was "Hack a Wilt". Fouling Wilt had an even better effect and Wilt would get phantom offensive fouls called against him constantly. That's how insane Wilt was. They abused and changed the rules to make it harder for Wilt.
They widened the lane because of Wilt, they changed the entire court layout for one man.
Wilt was so ahead of his time it’s seriously insane. Crazy how little legends like Wilt and Bill Russell got paid also. Inflation is a bitch
@@everythingbad2472they are not legends lol... They played weak basketball. 0 real skills
@@mattforbes221 And people nowadays think he is overrated because he only wins 2 rings. How tf is he going to win more when the league kept changing rules against him?
Can we talk about why Nikola Jokic doesn't get the same superstar treatment? He plays a lot more physical than Embiid and only gets 5-6 FTs a night.
Jokić doesn’t play more Physical than Joel 😂 Jokić can’t even lift himself off the ground and doesn’t have the same bag that Embiid does.
@@UserOutputthen you reeeally haven't seen jokic play...wow
@@UserOutput Watch Denver games. Lol. It ain't hard to see all the no-calls if you actually watch games, not just highlights.
@@UserOutputdo you not actually watch nba games? How can you possibly think that
@@UserOutputyou still have time to delete this before more ppl see it lol
The intro was the inner feeling of every non-lakers fan when their team goes against the lakers
No idea why lakers fans can’t see how much the refs give them and still complain once a call doesn’t go their way 😂
@@lucashigdon4488 It's not about the Lakers... it's about Lebron teams... Lebron has had favor from the NBA commission since forever... they wanted to make him bigger than Jordan by force and they have miserably failed cause he's not even close to that level of greatness... but the Lakers wouldn't be getting half the fouls they get if LePampered wasn't there...
@@sportschool3537 Is it that you didn't watch the video or is it that you disagreed with it? Because LeBron wasn't on that Shaq team. And the most controversial game for foul calls in history is the Lakers-Kings playoff twenty years ago or so, also pre-LeBron.
@@gandydancer9710 What does that have to do with the fact that Lebron has been pushed by refs for 15 years in a row? You're talking about one game... I'm talking about 15 fucking years which is a whole era of basketball!!!
And that one game has NOTHING to do with the Lakers... the story is that the Lakers were so dominant that the fans were bored and the TV ratings were tanking and that series being competitive had the highest ratings since MJ's finals in 98 so Stern literally fixed the game to go to a game 7 to make more money...
Lebron's games have dogshit ratings anyway and he still gets pushed by refs...
@@sportschool3537 Your claim was "It's not about the Lakers... it's about Lebron teams" and I demonstrated that that is patently false. AND you've claimed that Strern fixed games for ratings, but also claim that LeBron gets bad ratings. The incoherence of your beliefs is amazing.
Iverson was never viewed as a choke artist. He was just either always on terrible teams or his ego would get in the way. Sacrificing offensive hustle might have led to better team chemistry, but he didn't get that particular memo. That doesn't mean he "choked." His game was just too unique for an organization to build a solid team around his salary. Choke? This is the guy who led the only team who beat the Lakers in the 2001 Finals. Iverson had a scrappy, sometimes inconsistent style of play, but he always left 100% on the floor. He got banged up more than anyone, so he wasn't drawing unearned fouls.
So why does Jokic get hacked every single play and never gets a call? He’s a superstar and never does
Because Jokic isn't flopping around on the deck like a fish out of water.
It’s insane, I think the refs hate him
because Jokic is one of those very few superstars that don't get the whistle advantage.
Same reason Curry doesn’t. NBA doesn’t want them overshadowing their preferred narratives ahead of the new TV deal/negotiations.
Watch the refereeing get somewhat more consistent after that’s locked in & there’s no risk to letting parity determine who makes the playoffs.
Edit: They’re still gonna have the ref gambling allegations to contend with though.
I was waiting for this comment, jokic one of the most physical players in the league and gets disrespected by those bum refs
I hate that you said AI came up short, he performed well in the regular season and postseason, it is more about supporting cast for him, compared to Harden and Embiid coming up short performance and had the personnel to be succesful.
Embiid better than ai lil bro so is harden
@greysongotzmer4126 I'm talking about in terms of coming up short (no pun intended) in the playoffs should not apply to AI because he exceeded his lower level teammates and took his team to a finals and Embiid over AI is crazy big bro. When the accolade doesn't Embiid have over Allen Iverson.
i am an embiid hater bc he is a disingenuous player and is mean to ben simmons
Harden was the only superstar to take that healthy warriors team to a game 7.
Thank you for saying this
For me, Joel Embiid reminds me of James Harden when he was in his prime. Embiid can go crazy, no one can guard him and if they get close, they are called for a foul, but when it’s playoffs, there is always a reason. Either he’s injured, bad team, or chokes bc it’s the playoffs.
Edit: should’ve watched the full video before I made this comment since you made that comparison, but none the less, the play style is the same
But the dude seriously hasn’t been healthy for a playoff series due to his incredibly high usage rate in the regular season because his teams were so bad with him off the court. This year is going to be very different because the Sixers are have a very good core and great coaching.
Embiid is in the same system as jokic aint no way a potential 2x mvp caliber player doesn't deliver keep crying
@@evan.kushner1962 They had a winning record without him this last season
Embiid gets injured every year and Harden faced the most competition ever before the finals.. they aren't chokers just the most unluckiest NBA players of all time
Also Joel embiid doesn’t perform in game 7
Wait, wait , wait...Allen Iverson absolutely did not disappear in the playoffs. Go back and rewatch the games, he was, year after year for about five years, the most exciting player to watch, with absolutely the most heart you could ask for. He had very little help, and his teammates would disappear, production wise. Year after year, the only reason Philly was anywhere near the playoffs was him, and he was the only reason to watch his team.
And his playoff averages were pretty damn good. Also, single handedly (almost, nod to Deke) stopped the Lakers from sweeping the playoffs in 2001.
Seriously, find some of his old playoff games and watch...he was fucking amazing.
James Harden taught him well while he was there
Learned from the best in the biz
can't wait to see who the sixers choke against in the second round of this year's playoffs!
They definitely don't want any of Boston. Been their kryptonite for years now and it'll stay that way if they match up in the playoffs again
bro i wouldn’t want to play against boston either everyone on that team plays like a bitch 😭😭
Harden was like this for so many years in the playoffs. Both hardens and embiids performances for almost EVERY single elimination game of their careers is literally horrible
Yall be constantly saying that bs when embiid has been injured for most of his playoffs runs he hasn't been as lucky with injuries as harden like yall can't be serious
Video request: what are the real differences between regular season and playoff officiating? Is that the main thing that contributes to guys like Harden and Embiid failing?
I’d say it’s a mix of more physicality allowed PLUS the other team learning how to avoid fouls. If your tactic revolves around calls, the other team can usually figure out a new game plan after 1-2 games. It’s the studying of the other teams that makes playoffs another level of play
I think a part of it is, refs don't want to make too many of those phantom "superstar" calls and then have to face questions and the next game is between the same 2 teams, and the game after that. It's too easy for a refs' name to become part of the story, and nobody wants that.
This was a great video… my only addition would be that the data showing super stars get more incorrect calls going their way in the last two minutes would definitely be skewed because the sample size of non star players shooting or handling the ball in key moments during the last two minutes of a game is extremely small compared to superstars
Exactly. Also, this is the first I’ve heard someone saying AI choked or didn’t show up in the playoffs…
If you read the article, you see that the difference isn’t actually all that big. 20% isn’t a huge number, and the raw data numbers look a bit more natural
The 20% is based on actual bad calls, not the number of attempts. It's irrelevant how many are taken. The data is infallible. 5% would be a lot, 20% is mind-blowing.
@@jacobmilne5205Average interest rate return:
Checking acct: .07%
Savings acct: .47%
Money market: .65%
Elite stock brokers: 10%
20% doesn't happen in normal metrics.
11:06 just coming here to say that there is a difference between relative and absolute. There were a 20% relative increase, but the absolute difference was 0.96%
what's funny is that the article says refs favor superstars only "at a marginal level". But jimmy didn't read that part lol
This season for scoring from Embiid is an uncanny parallel to James Harden scoring 36 ppg in 2018-19
Both foul merchants
-- Agree.
Random: I was listening to a NPR story about juicing in baseball. This one guy pointed out that fringe MLB players juicing made sense. Without it, they would probably be out of the league. However, it bothered the same guy when Superstars were juicing b/c they didn't need to use steroids. They were already hitting 20-30 HRs a season, but now? 40-50HRs.
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"He looked at me funny" fouls are the reason NBA< EuroLeague. NBA has become so soft, not saying we should got back to the '90s with felony assault level fouls but the NBA 'manhood' has become weak sauce.
Some other things to note JxmyHighroller.
- The LAL are shooting 233 more FTA's this year than ANY other team in the NBA while driving not nearly close to as much as other teams in the league.
- SGA is an extreme foul merchant that throws his head back on every single drive to the basket, it's bordering on Embiid's level (this season).
And the warriors are dead last in free throw disparity despite the myth of them only relying on 3s and never driving to the basket being probably, statistically false. 🤷🏻♂️
Your almost right but almost all of Lal points come in the paint
@@Mdautkreixsteph curry shot 21 3s in one game the other night
@@Mdautkreixliterally I vividly remember lakers fans using one and the only excuse they had of “lakers drive more” yet this season and that game yesterday the warriors drove more yet the lakers had 2.7x more fta 💀 I swear only laker fans don’t realize how the nba gives them that treatment
Jokic does the same head flop. Also Dame Lillard gets some wild foul calls.
He is a foul merchant which is really weird because he is so damn strong but you can argue that it's really smart because big guys typically don't get the calls like they should.
Because league needs to cash cow big market that is stupid enough to gulp free throw show
double edged sword. Embiid relied too much on it. It's basically killing our chance to win anything because his scoring drop. Also, he needs to keep playing against bigger team rather than farming them spurs, hornet, and Piston. He is asking to get injured by someone at this point and I don't want it.
Which is why he collapses in the playoffs every year
@@hijisfriend9030 The scoring drop isn't free throw related though, throughout his career he averages 1-2 less free throws in the playoffs than the regular season. It's his inability to be healthy in the playoffs, because he's been injured in all but one post season and that was the bubble. Despite being injured 5/6 post seasons he's missed 7 of 54 playoff games.
U dont watch games
Hey yalll, Adam Silver here. Embiidcis may boi, he pays me fat for making these ridiculous calls and I love it. Nobody can stop us.
Embiid doesn't get calls because he's a superstar. He's a superstar because he gets calls.
did you not watch the video? theyre phantom calls? barely to no contact was made
I've actually been dubious of the so-called "superstar-call," so it's really interesting and impressive to see that someone did the math and proved that it really exists. Having said that, I still think that most people massively overemphasize both the importance and the level of prejudice of those bad calls. The video is actually a bit misleading on that point. If you pause the video at 10:50, the article says that the difference between superstars and non-stars, whose calls also account for the vast majority of calls in games, is actually about half as wide as the gap between stars and superstars, about 10% instead of 20%. That 10% difference basically means that for every 10 bad calls that go the way of a role player, a superstar gets 11. It definitely shows up in the data, but it's not exactly an earth-shattering difference.
Yeah i knew that 20% was measleading
10% would be 9 to 10, not 10 to 11 - no?
@@z.r.r4593 no, it's 10:11
Edit: 10% is 10:11. In the overall data, it's closer to 8:9 (if you compare superstars to everyone else)
it's actually quite a lot if you count it over a season & career. And I think superstars get even more preferential calls for the first 46 min of the game.
When Wilt scored 100 points he had 28 free throws, which is about 30% just like Embiid when he scored 70
Embiid is overrated af and a crybaby
Wilt is overrated to tbf
I could guarantee you that wilt wasn’t flopping around. If you go back to the reports wilt was being triple-quadruple teamed and was hard fouled. He was a notorious bad free throw shooter similar to Shaq. Wilt got 30 free throws because they wanted to foul him, it’s just this time he made em’. Embiid is more of a James harden searching to get to that line and flopping.
He also plays against defence that isn't allowed to touch him lol. Embiid doesn't sit under the rim like chamberlain did yet he still gets 12 free throws per game. Soft like charmin
28 is new 30 percent? When 23/70 exist?
He's a great player. The issue for me is that his game is focused on drawing these fouls. If he was just playing naturally and got the fouls, that would be a different story.
Games today are so unpleasant to watch today even highlights are miserable, the fact players this good arent winning chips or getting to the conference finals shows the results of this playstyle...
Comparing fan treatment to referee treatment is a bit of a joke...
We need to bring back hand checking and call out travels and carrying
shi i always see them calling travels. Sometimes overly calling it
In my opinion, even if every Superstar gets preferential treatment, most of them don't go looking to abuse that. And i think we should really call out the nba and the refs for this plus the silly fouls they give in general.
Anyways i love the videos. Keep it up!
Jokic doesn’t get that preferential treatment
I’ve been saying this shit for years now. It’s ridiculous. Embiid lives at the free throw line.
But he is the first to be proud and arrogant about it.
There's simple reason why people hate him over the others before him.
Further proof that jokic vs embiid was never a debate. Duck the good teams stat pad to look good and then fail to make it out the 2nd round. Jokic really got robbed for not having any playoff success by a guy who has played with many all stars and never beat a good team in the playoffs or made it out the 2nd round. Imagine ducking a team for 5 years..
Of course embiid own jokic Everytime they play😂😂
@@Six10demigod_5easy to do when the baby doesn’t even play in denver, Embiid be ducking💀
@@Six10demigod_5hasn't played in Denver since 2018 lol
Jokic does not give a sh1t as long as his horses are winning.
@@Six10demigod_5 Embiid is a clown who is scared to play against Jokic xdd, it truly never was a debate, Jokic owns Embiid and in the playoffs, Embiid will choke once again while Jokic will lead his team
The key difference between what Embiid is doing vs other superstars is that he is not even trying to score. Lebron gets favorable calls when he drives to the rim but he isn't doing so for a call. Embiid gets the ball and then tries to get a foul call instead of a basket.
“Favorable calls” 🤣. Lebron gets fouled everytime and he barely gets those calls
bruh last time bron had double digits FTA is when he first won back to back MVP, bron never got a superstar call ever since
The heck LeFraud isn't looking for the bailout from the ref when he goes to the basket. Get real would you?
The chart he showed had Lebrons call rate at -3.1 percent meaning he wasn’t getting fouls called. The refs have never been on Lebrons side minus a handful of games every season.
I've seen enough flopping from Lebron to know that he most certainly drives looking for calls... Most players of that style tend to do that but the flopping puts him, Harden and Embiid on a different tier.
My biggest issue isn’t that Embiid is scoring, it’s how he’s scoring. Fouls are the most subjective part of the game of basketball, as they rely on the ref’s judgement to call. Abusing this system is just completely immoral to me because of this, and that’s the biggest problem I have with how he scores.
Lol "immoral" it's so interesting how sensitive yall are
Fun fact, if fouls didn’t exist, he still leads the league in scoring. People just ignore it because his face up midrange game is so automatic they don’t even notice.
@@oreoakalaperoji8314you really thought you were tough with this comment huh 💀😂
@@caponebd7941 hahah yea, elite choker
@@milosstanojevic6637 trust me, I know very well how much he sucks ass in the playoffs. Doesn’t have anything to do with my comment though.
Stil hate that he got the MVP last season. He won because Perkins started that racial bullshit, Jokic deserved his hat trick MVP's & he proved it in the post-season
Comparing AI in the playoffs with James Harden and Joel Embiid is crazy
Agree. AI was a one man scoring machine. Though, he had a chip on his shoulder, he also had bad luck with his teammates. Never matching his energy and intensity of the game.
Yeah, Jimmy is seriously doing some AI hating here. AI made it to the finals and single-handedly won a game there. Come on, the guy always showed up.
Joel and Harden are way better than Iverson ever was.
@@tyrelljohnson5684surrender your crack pipe
harden is much better than ai in the playoffs, ai would get swept by the dynasty warriors
it’s not even the phantom fouls when Embiid is on offense. When Embiid is on defense, he hacks so many guys and nothing is called. I have never seen a man be awarded so many calls in my entire life
And that’s his fault?
@@Baker33bruh are you slow? No shit it’s not his fault but he’s explaining why it’s bullshit like use context clues you learned in grade school
This conversation always makes me wonder why some great players DONT get the calls that other great players get. Both LeBron and Steph seem to get less calls than they should and I could not tell you why that is.
This seems...suspect at best to me. There's like a 10 minute video of just LeBron travelling and having it not be called. Not saying he's not getting incorrect calls in his favor, but 10 minutes of uncalled travelling is pretty excessive.
mans never been a fan of a small market team. ive never seen a team deserve more techs than the warriors
@@davidrosensin7985the nba doesn’t call traveling in general.
i mean look at Jokic he probably has the worst whistle of all time jokic averages 5.8 while this mf embiid gets 12 a night
the most obvious comparison is Joker who gets no superstar treatment for free throws (of course his game is different but still). Another famous guy in the past who never got calls while being literally pushed is Jeremy Lin.
Joel Embiid is the equivalent to prime James Harden, if he was a big man.
I'm not sure how you let Giannis' 64 point game slide when he had 32 fta and attacked Embiid when he scored more with less.
Spot the Embid meat muncher challenge. Level: Easy
people actually foul Giannis
Yeah, Giannis is by far the worst I have ever seen
Yea this sum hater stuff litterally damian and giannis get 20 ft a game
@@Processing321Giannis averages less ft attempts per game as is trash at making them, Embiid is a near 90% ft shooter, you tell me who’s leeching more points off of free throws
He's also been missing a ton of games. If he misses 6 more he will be ineligible for the MVP trophy (kinda hope that happens)
Will miss the next one. 5 to go.
He misses a game when he knows he cant play 100% because he needs his stats to be above 35+ ppg
@@gustavopaniza9964 with 35 games remaining 😬, I don't think he's gonna make it
@@aohjii i mean its the same load management we've been seeing these past few years that's why the nba implemented measures against it. Embiid is probably the only one who's still doing it
i mean they only need 2000 minutes per 82 games which averages 24.3 minutes per game
load management doesnt mean skipping games@@nikath4961
It's crazy how 6 of the top 10 games ever according to game score are from games either this season or last season. 2 luka games (his 73 at number 2 and his 60/20/10 at number 10) Embiids 70 at number 4, Donovan Mitchells 71 at 5, Lillards 71 at number 7, and GIannis's 64 at number 8. crazy to me how 70 points isn't even considered unreal anymore
Nah it’s unreal still but honestly this year of offence increased so much we went from saying 40 is the new 30 to at least me saying 45 is the new 30
Luka and Embiid within, what, 4 days of each other? 2 of the top 4 performances in less than a week. Nuts.
take that disrespect for AI outta here, the man did the impossible and took a game off kobe and shaq, what more you want in the playoffs??