As a side sleeper, my knees love an extra wide mat. Otherwise they end up on the tent flow, cold in the morning. Good sleep is definitely worth the extra weight!
Ah man, that's a shame, though yep it's definitely down to personal preference. I have a Thermarest Z-Lite and find it really comfortable, though it's what I've always used (never used an air mattress) and also have a history of napping in random locations during breaks on night-shifts in the past, so maybe my base comfort tolerance is lower for those sorts of things! Also, my frameless pack is designed to use pads like these as back support, attaching it between the back and the pack, so it doesn't get in the way and is multi-use. Still, glad you've come to a decision for the CtoC, looking forward to following it, and the Nemo will at least be good for giving you a couple of extra Rs under an air mattress for cold-weather camping!
Love the title😂🐠👌. And a good choice, the inflatable sleep pads are a game changer, and you really can't put a price on a good night's sleep, especially after a long hike👍
I think for big multi-day hikes, for me, I’m trying to be strict with what I carry as it all adds up. I could have back-ups for quite a few things but just trying to take what I need and only one of it. All personal preference I guess!
I find as I age,Those pad's are Necessary.It's worth the hassle,Bulky but comforting at the end of the day.Regenerating sleep is Very Important indeed. Cheers!
100% right Ben that you can’t put a price (or a weight) on a good nights sleep when long distance hiking. I’d trade extra ounces and minutes of setup time to get a good night’s sleep and be comfortable. Can’t put a weight on happiness 😊
Decathlon makes one with an R Value of 2.2. Now that the weather is warmer I have used it for 4 nights in the lake district when sleeping in the bivvy up in on fells. I absolutely hate packing in the morning and folding foam mats help cut down on the faff packing in the morning.
Only time I use that style pad is on top of my cot bed for insulation. Good move going for a wide pad, I too move about a fair bit and always end off the side of a standard one.
I’ve got a similar pad to your Nemo, but, I just couldn’t get away with it either. I’ll be sticking with my Sea to Summit Comfort plus. Yes, I know it’s heavier than other inflatable mats, but it’s got two separate air chambers, so that if it did get a hole in it, I’ll still be able to get a half decent nights sleep using the air chamber that is still intact. The reason being that I once had another pad which went flat overnight but there was no way that I could find the hole and repair it until I got it home and put it in the bath. I got hardly any sleep that night. It’s a bit more weight, but for me, it will probably be worth it.
I love my Exped Flexmat XS torso length foam pad. It's lightweight at 200g, surprisingly warm, and I find it comfortable enough to get a good nights sleep.
Haha - good choice to losing Nemo!.. I’ve never ever used one of these personally, as they are just far too bulky, and surprise surprise nowhere near as comfy as any blow-up sleeping pad!! Plus, when that monster is strapped to the outside of any pack it will be standing out like a sore thumb, it’s then plainly obvious what your getting upto. 😄 Just another reason why I’ll never use one!
I’ve been thinking about using one on my Ridgeway and beyond hike next year instead of one of my inflatable pads. I’ll be having a practice runs either in my garden or on some overnight camps to see how it goes.
I can't afford a quality inflatable that's both light and warm so I've been experimenting. Use the folding mat doubled up as torso pad. It should be now just long enough to cushion both shoulders and hips. Combine that with a very thin, full length roll mat slipped in between the two sides of the z mat. This will stop the egg box shapes nesting and give a lot more spring. As a side sleeper I've found it just about tolerable for comfort. It's a lot of bulk to carry but very light. I'm using no brand eBay kit so it cost me £20 for both.
At the end of the day its a folded bit of foam. It won't be that comfortable. Also we have become so spoilt for choice with stuff that is tailored as more convenient or easier to use that we start turning noses up at products that just basically work. So what if you have to pump your mattress up. As long as it works and serves a practical purpose then good. It's the same for any products. Water boils when heat is applied. It doesn't matter if it takes seconds or minutes longer than another product just as long as it works. So what if one tent is lighter than another. Just as long as it keeps you sheltered it is doing its job. All that happens is that the focus of enjoying the outdoors is now being governed by your kit choices. It's all BS. The whole point of hiking and camping is to enjoy the outdoor experience. As usual capitalism distracts.
Still rocking the 'Gulag' look...blink a message if you are a hostage 😉
Thanks for the video 👍
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As a side sleeper, my knees love an extra wide mat. Otherwise they end up on the tent flow, cold in the morning. Good sleep is definitely worth the extra weight!
I'm long over using one of these.
My old bones love an air mattress, so foam pads are relegated to the distant past.
Ah man, that's a shame, though yep it's definitely down to personal preference. I have a Thermarest Z-Lite and find it really comfortable, though it's what I've always used (never used an air mattress) and also have a history of napping in random locations during breaks on night-shifts in the past, so maybe my base comfort tolerance is lower for those sorts of things! Also, my frameless pack is designed to use pads like these as back support, attaching it between the back and the pack, so it doesn't get in the way and is multi-use.
Still, glad you've come to a decision for the CtoC, looking forward to following it, and the Nemo will at least be good for giving you a couple of extra Rs under an air mattress for cold-weather camping!
Love the title😂🐠👌. And a good choice, the inflatable sleep pads are a game changer, and you really can't put a price on a good night's sleep, especially after a long hike👍
Thanks both!
I'm toying with using both closed cell and a Inflatable for hiking. The closed cell as back up and protection for the Inflatable.
Yes I’ve considered that. I suppose it’s another thing to carry and deal with but I get why some do it.
I think for big multi-day hikes, for me, I’m trying to be strict with what I carry as it all adds up. I could have back-ups for quite a few things but just trying to take what I need and only one of it. All personal preference I guess!
I find as I age,Those pad's are Necessary.It's worth the hassle,Bulky but comforting at the end of the day.Regenerating sleep is Very Important indeed. Cheers!
Yep, agree!
100% right Ben that you can’t put a price (or a weight) on a good nights sleep when long distance hiking. I’d trade extra ounces and minutes of setup time to get a good night’s sleep and be comfortable. Can’t put a weight on happiness 😊
Well said Paul!
Decathlon makes one with an R Value of 2.2. Now that the weather is warmer I have used it for 4 nights in the lake district when sleeping in the bivvy up in on fells. I absolutely hate packing in the morning and folding foam mats help cut down on the faff packing in the morning.
I use one underneath my inflatable mat in the winter to increase the r-value (and as a seat) but no way my old bones could use just that on its own 😮
100% to all points.
Only time I use that style pad is on top of my cot bed for insulation. Good move going for a wide pad, I too move about a fair bit and always end off the side of a standard one.
I’ve got a similar pad to your Nemo, but, I just couldn’t get away with it either.
I’ll be sticking with my Sea to Summit Comfort plus. Yes, I know it’s heavier than other inflatable mats, but it’s got two separate air chambers, so that if it did get a hole in it, I’ll still be able to get a half decent nights sleep using the air chamber that is still intact.
The reason being that I once had another pad which went flat overnight but there was no way that I could find the hole and repair it until I got it home and put it in the bath.
I got hardly any sleep that night.
It’s a bit more weight, but for me, it will probably be worth it.
Sounds good!
I love my Exped Flexmat XS torso length foam pad. It's lightweight at 200g, surprisingly warm, and I find it comfortable enough to get a good nights sleep.
Haha - good choice to losing Nemo!.. I’ve never ever used one of these personally, as they are just far too bulky, and surprise surprise nowhere near as comfy as any blow-up sleeping pad!!
Plus, when that monster is strapped to the outside of any pack it will be standing out like a sore thumb, it’s then plainly obvious what your getting upto. 😄
Just another reason why I’ll never use one!
Thanks Ash!
I’ve been thinking about using one on my Ridgeway and beyond hike next year instead of one of my inflatable pads. I’ll be having a practice runs either in my garden or on some overnight camps to see how it goes.
I can't afford a quality inflatable that's both light and warm so I've been experimenting. Use the folding mat doubled up as torso pad. It should be now just long enough to cushion both shoulders and hips. Combine that with a very thin, full length roll mat slipped in between the two sides of the z mat. This will stop the egg box shapes nesting and give a lot more spring. As a side sleeper I've found it just about tolerable for comfort. It's a lot of bulk to carry but very light. I'm using no brand eBay kit so it cost me £20 for both.
That’s a good idea. Thanks for watching.
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*told you so!* 🤣
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Sleep is super essential a inflatable pad is essential good choice to ditch 🤙
Couldn't imagine looking forward to getting my head down knowing I was lying on one of these throughout the night
Hi sir it’s been along time
At the end of the day its a folded bit of foam. It won't be that comfortable. Also we have become so spoilt for choice with stuff that is tailored as more convenient or easier to use that we start turning noses up at products that just basically work. So what if you have to pump your mattress up. As long as it works and serves a practical purpose then good. It's the same for any products. Water boils when heat is applied. It doesn't matter if it takes seconds or minutes longer than another product just as long as it works. So what if one tent is lighter than another. Just as long as it keeps you sheltered it is doing its job. All that happens is that the focus of enjoying the outdoors is now being governed by your kit choices. It's all BS. The whole point of hiking and camping is to enjoy the outdoor experience. As usual capitalism distracts.