Diana and Camilla's Tense Lunch Meeting | The Crown (Emma Corrin, Emerald Fennell)
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- In this scene, my dears, after Diana (Emma Corrin) reaches out to Camilla (Emerald Fennell), we observe them sharing a meal, which reveals who knows Charles (Josh O'Connor) best. The situation culminates in a dramatic moment as Diana purges the entire meal.
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Had she been older than just 19, she could have figured it out and walked gracefully away.
She knew it all, but nowone walks away from being Princess. In fact they only met 7 times before the wedding
@@rogerfielding1117 Not true she wanted out once she realized whom Camilla was to Charles, but the engagement had already been announced and her family told her she couldn't. It was too late. He also promised her he would no longer see Camilla that the bracelet was a goodby gift. Then on their honeymoon he was calling Camila, and she found a Photograph of Camilla he had brought.
The day before the wedding Diana wanted to run but her sisters told her what’s the point that Diana’s initials were already on all the wedding decorations.
Poor thing
Not that easy to just walk away from power and fame
Imagine a 30 year old flexing on a teenager. Camilla is pathetic here.
And of course it's all true....not
35-year-old you mean
@@robertthomson1587 Diana described a very similar scene to this in an interview. (not the Bashar one) Was it exact? No but close. she realized Camilla was happy she was not into fishing and hunting since that gave Camilla an in to see him.
Camilla's being kind. She's bluntly letting Diana know that Charles knows her better and loves her better than he ever will Diana. Which was true. Camilla was warning her.
@@infjelphabasupporter8416 that’s a generous way of looking at it. A kinder thing to do would to be to leave them both alone.
Camilla is so brutal here. The way she treats Diana is unforgivable. Also, the scene very accurately portrays what an eating disorder looks like publicly versus privately (something that's hard to do on film).
lol, this scene does not at all accurately reflect bulimia.
Newsflash: what happens here, and in 100% of the non-public scenes is fiction. There may be elements of truth but it was written by people who weren’t there advised on by people who weren’t present.
I know this scene is a work of fiction, however the very public affair was most definitely a known fact before it made it to the papers. Diana's restraint is remarkable. I have suffered a bad breakup due to cheating, and while I behaved myself and overcame all the usual cheating-related emotions, if I ever saw or heard the arrogance and innuendos like seen here--real or perceived--I struggle to think of what I would have done. If my ex's new dog ever had an interaction with me like this...as a person not ruled by my emotions...I think I would have SNAPPED. Someone under so much pressure as Princess Diana was, and so much public scrutiny of her and her sons...what a STRONG and admirable person.
ˇin real life they probably didnt have a meeting like this...but Diana says on her tapes that when she confronted Camilla about the affair then Camilla didnt have any shame...just said that "what else do you wnat? You are a princess , everybody loves you and you have two cute kids" ...unbelievable
in real life they didnt have a meeting like this but Camilla was still shameless when Diana confronted her about the affair, she said " what else do you want? You are a princess and everybody loves you, you have two amazing kids, what else do you wnat?" ...thats even more unbelievable in my opinion
god, they nailed the "you clearly know my partner better than me" feeling (been there, know it well)
How did yours end.
No god but Allah
Islam way for peace and real monotheist
Search about the truth with honest heart
And first ask Allah to help you to find the way
Why would you be with someone like that then?😐
Sorry but thats on you,not them
@@HarleyLuna31 hush
@@HarleyLuna31 it's not that simple. You might believe things will change. You might love someone so much that you deny the reality. Not everyone is as tough as you, I'm afraid, especially when you just want love and peace.
Camilla was really asserting her dominance here with a significantly younger Diana. Basically letting her know that you may have been approved to marry my man, but I have his heart, you're nothing but a pawn.
Diana was a descendant of the Stuarts but,yes, she was a pawn.
Yeah. I kinda understand her. She was deemed unsuitable by the Royals and banned from marrying her man. And Diana was deemed more than suitable, Camilla must have felt so jealous. And was afraid of losing Charles. Diana was young, gorgeous, fiery and chic. But Charles was already in love with Camilla. And Camilla had him first.
How pathetic.
Charles was never a prize. NEVER!
Her non-stop assertion that she knew Charles better was so rude. Scene does a great job of that.
That last line "I'm all for sharing" ..... lol
Taking. 😅
Stealing
Usurper 😂
“Two’s company; three’s a crowd.” 👑👸❤️🌹🏴🌹
I swear, her great-grandmother would have scolded her then and there for putting the princess of wales on the spot.
Casting was very kind to Camilla
Right shes hot.
Too kind 😩
they wouldn't have found an actress as ugly tbh
Casting was kinda to alllllll of them
@@sarahfuller5482what absolute bullshit 😭
One of the best scenes of The Crown. “Golly. He obviously tells you everything”. Perfectly delivered.
@sandyduncan2927 I agree that line stuck out to me also
Camila wished she was half as attractive as the actress playing her 😉
Here here ..i mean that actress looks like a goddam super model those CHEEKBONES ..what is her name??
@@silverkitty2503 Emerald Fennell, an Academy Award winner for Original Screenplay for her debut film Promising Young Woman (2022). She also directed Saltburn.
@@silverkitty2503 She is Emerald Fennell. Actress and Writer. Also appeared in Call the Midwife, and she Wrote and Directed Saltburn.
I’m glad they got an “uglier” actress in the last season, they were far too generous here!! She looks exactly the same old bag since she was never young when he met her, that would be boring as a viewer so I get why they made her attractive even tho it’s not what she deserves lol
@@MsTinkerbelle87 You could argue the same case about Charles though? Both Seasons 3 & 4 (Josh O'Connor) and Seasons 5 & 6 (Dominic West) Charles were far too handsome to play the real Charles ?
When Diana offers to pay for the entire dinner, it was an attempt to reclaim her power of this terrible situation :'(
The funny thing about this is that they cast someone gorgeous to play Camilla. 🤣
I know thats wrong casting, tho Emerald is a very good actress-
Emerald is gorgeous indeed.❤
And Diana looked better than the actress, which most of the time is the other way around... But how could one find a second Diana for playing that part? Nowhere!
Very funny 😂😂😂
She was and is a good looking woman. She has that appeal.
The casting sure was very generous with Camilla.
I don't think Camilla's hair has EVER looked this good. EVER. She should be so lucky. Queen Diana.❤
So it’s all about looks, correct? If Camilla looked like Diana, and Diana looked like Camilla, I suspect it would be “Team Camilla”….
@@generalcomments1239No. But Camilla's uglyness is obvious inside and out. Diana inspite all her troubles had always a beautiful heart. And of course she was very pretty.
I dunno why all are in support of Diana here. They are all pawns, they are all victims. Yes camila, charles and Diana. All of them. Imagine being in love with someone and not being able to marry them bcos you were born a royal!!? Royals are supposed to be powerful. Yet all of them didn't have a choice. Because of the rigid rules of royalty.
Diana was never queen; she was the Princess of Wales. Camilla is a queen twice over: of the United Kingdom and of the King's heart. Whether you like it or not, Camilla is and always has been the greatest love of Charles. Finally, they got married! G’d Save the King Charles and the Queen Camilla!
@@SoniaSantanabrasitalia 657 people and more don't agree with you.
I loved this scene for so many reasons, we see the differences between them not just in how Camilla knows more but how she's presented as confident and mature compared to Diana. I'm pretty sure this scene is pure fiction but it sets up the issues in Diana's relationship with Charles even BEFORE their marriage. He would've been suited with an older woman (obvs we know its Camilla) but instead he chose a younger one, someone he thought he could mold to adapt to him. Great acting on everyone's part, but especially Emerald who gave Camilla a 'softer' side. The scene where she and Charles are telling the bear story stands out too.
Charles didn't choose anyone. Camilla was married off while he was abroad in his early 20s. Not able to have her, he became a bit of a playboy with frivolous dates and not committing to anyone for the rest of his 20s. By his 30s, it was decided he should settle down and mature, so it was orchestrated that he'd meet Diana, several times, because they thought she'd be a good match. The paparazzi got wind of it before the waters could be tested, so they followed through with the engagement etc. Of course Camilla had divorced by then, but he couldn't marry a divorcee, so Diana it was.
Charles never chose Diana, she was deliberately chosen _for_ him.
@@LilyGrace95 Camilla and Andrew Parker Bowles only divorced in 1995
@@rogerfielding1117 Mybad, so she was still married then. Either way, the relationship was off the table, so he married Diana.
think Diana was chosen for him
Charles didn't choose anyone. Diana was chosen for him to create heirs to the throne. I thought that was obvious
Camilla was just showing off and taking advantage of Diana because she was younger. A woman her age would have put her in her place.
But Charles was in love with Camilla, wanted Camilla but the Royal Family wouldn’t let him marry her.
@@victoriamorgan2261then he should have stood up for her bc in the end they ended up together anyways
Most be annoying when the man you love is married off to a mere teenager with far less education. I mean everyone 30 and above thinks the younger generations are not as bright as the current or future generations.
@claudianieto2723...Charles refused to give her up. The Queen had to give in. Charles was heir to the throne.
@@Cloudydays2000 But years had to go by in order to be accepted, all the drama and chaos in order to finally say ok fine get divorce and you can marry the love of your life.
Emerald Fennell has got to be the MOST British name ever uttered! 😂
She's gorgeous though, and she's a pretty good director 😊
Princess Margaret described Camilla
‘She’ll never give him up’
Well we all know why now , isnt she the who said i dont want the crown n didnt want to be the queen , she didnt want any of that my foot ..
she taps on his arm n orders the king around , watch the trooping colors today ....
She planned all along to kick out diana n replace no matter what ...
Karma dear whr r u....
I despise no home breaker as much as Camell-haaa ...
Breaking the home , ruining the boys , ....
Slow poison n eating up that family ....
What I don't understand is that the husband Andrew accepted all of this. He must have been ashamed, right?
It must have been embarrassing and degrading for him. What must the children have gone through? It was obviously not easy for everyone involved...
May be because Margaret has been there - A woman in love perhaps doesn't have a choice to 'give up' she simply can't - As much as i feel for Diana - I won't really blame Camila or any of them -May be she tried when she got married. Actually all of them paid price - and for what - Charles actually got a throne in his late 70s , something for which he had to pay such a huge price and then got cancer :(- Living in the moment - going by your gut is so so underrated - we are so future focused when the truth is we don't know where future is going to take us anyway - we might as well take decisions which feels right at this moment
@@dr.soheilamostafavi235 your writing hurts my eyes lmao
@@AT-zn7gi 100% right ❤
It's cringy how the conversation starts almost jovially and amicably and turns into something.. else.
Kind of like a serial killer talking to their future victim at a dinner table! 🙈😂
reminds me of those mean girls from high school... i think this is a girl thing tbh. All nice and smiley but fake af
Its like watching a couple of besties eating out😂
@@hira6560you mean against others or amongst them?
"I'm all for sharing." Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Gross. 🙄
Camilla in this scene is designed to be the WORST:
• Condescending
• Openly Invasive
• Outright Sneering
• Competitive
• Scathing
I think the actress played it very passive aggressive--a masterpiece really. Pretended to be helping Diana but was putting her down the whole time.
spot on
I hated this part of what Diana went through with a scheming Camilla from "The Crown." No wonder she became upset and in pain throughout her marriage.
Designed? Camilla was a disgusting adulterers. Fact.
Well imagine the man you were in love with, who loved you too couldn’t marry you.
The acting is great. I was completely invested in the situation, not a line was off.
In this scene, Camilla puts on an air of casual indifference on purpose, while she very calculatingly ensures that Princess Diana knows just how close of a relationship she has with HER husband. Extremely cruel and vindictive behavior. Typical "F.R.A". (female relational aggression) displayed and all with a smile on her face, to show that she is really her "friend". Diana was so young, naive and impressionable. She was like a deer in the headlights. It's painful to watch. I'm a 60 year old woman now and have gained much life experience. Yet, this reminds me of my 19 year old self and getting "eaten alive" by older women who had an agenda to destroy me emotionally. I wish this had never happened to Princess Diana. The marriage was doomed right from the very beginning. Her husband was in love with Camilla and remained so, during the entire marriage. No woman deserves this.
And innocent. Diana was pure & innocent 😢
@@high_maintenanceShe was 19, she may have been innocent, but that's no excuse for marrying an older man you know nothing about because you're so dazzled by the fact that he's a prince. Fact is, she was an adult and made a decision and then refused to face the consequences. I dont think anyone set out to hurt her specifically. Everyone was hurt.
God i just know you hate women and blame them for anything to get the male attention you desperately crave. Thank god youre old and withered up so thats no longer possible
I know that this is random but how do you prevent an older person from destroying you emotionally? (I’m in my early 20s)
@@nf9407 You be the exact opposite of me, that's how. I'm 60 years old now and it took me way too long to learn how to be assertive and stand up for myself. I allowed myself to be eaten by sharks most of my life and that's no joke. I was trying too hard to be "nice and agreeable". I wanted people to like me. I was too afraid of offending people by setting boundaries. It's the very thing that I regret most in my life. I can watch a simple video now, such as this one and be "triggered". If you are in your early twenties, don't be like I was. I am begging you. It's not worth it. You don't need people to like you. Especially other women. This video is a perfect example of just how nasty women can be to each other. Defend yourself immediately. Literally stand up and say "no". Don't take it lying down. Get ugly if you must and never give someone else the upper hand over you. Because women will alway try to establish dominance in the pecking order. The passive aggressive, snide, backhanded compliments and eye rolls, sneers and heavy sighs will indicate that you are in the presence of an enemy. Don't ignore the signs. Be ready to defend yourself. Good luck!
Charles didn’t eat lunch for fear of gas and Diana suffered from bulimia.
*doesn't eat lunch. He still doesn't lol.
So he has gastric issues?
Don't they all have gastric issues due to childhood trauma (abusive nannies or bullies in boarding schools)?
Emerald is so beautiful that she’s more like the lady of the manor in Saltburn rather than Camilla
Do you say that because Saltburn is her movie or did the association come independently? Makes me curious about whether Emerald Fennell infused her role as Camilla into Pike’s character
Poor darling Diana, the Lady was misled, misused and hurt. I loved her, I really felt sorry for her. Everyone played her for a fool.
Ooh the poor baby, she was always rich and chose to get married, to the cheat herself with multiple people and be a princess, all by choice and on her own accord, but the poor poor baby.
@@deadahead7996 Yes, it's all Diana's fault and Charles is the innocent who got caught with his hands around Camilla's tampon. He's the real victim while being married to someone who actually did love him but didn't know he didn't love her until it was too late. He called her crazy, and she ran to those she also loved to try to get help, then she had to play to her public strengths and run to the media. But, yes, Charles is the victim. He is the victim of an institution that dehumanizes people, inside and out. But, when you are on the out, then well, we all know what happens.
This show is fictional
@@thebeefyleaf So is the institution of monarchy in general. Shakespeare is fictional. Dramatic illiteracy really depresses me.
@outinsider oh boy, you lot only like the love stories when they're in books, Charles is a cheater and a dick, but he loved a women from the start and proved it by being married to her since, he was forced into that marriage and I very very much doubt Diana didn't know how distant he was from the start, but Diana showed signs of being a narcissist and jerk herself, she loved and manipulated media attention and people by playing an innocent persona, she cheated with a married man supposedly and didn't give a crap that she was doing the same thing to another women that was done to her? Worst of all is Charles was uncomfortable with the people's obsession with Diana, enough that he let it slip publicly, but was that because of him knowing her true personality? Which shows her narcissism, envy, shallowness, attention seeking, childish and fake? Why does the Queen not only condone her son but also allude to Diana's behaviour being unacceptable. Stop being ignorant and blind and consider the relationships happening behind closed doors, just because she was pretty infront of people doesn't mean she was pretty inside. Now I could be wrong, but I know that the innocence and victimhood given to Diana isn't warranted.
"Good idea. I'm all for sharing" if that didn't have some hidden meaning behind it, lmao.
They are both so good in this scene.
The acting was outstanding in The Crown
Remember kids, if you hate them, they did a top job at their performance 🍻
It's so easy to forget how young she was until seeing it like this. She was a kid
Brides younger than Diana.
Catherine of Aragon (aged 15), was married to Arthur, Prince of Wales (aged 15), in 1501.
Margaret Tudor (aged 13), elder sister of Henry VIII, was married to James IV of Scotland (aged 29) in 1503.
Diane de Poitiers (aged 15) was married to Louis de Brézé (aged about 54) in 1515.
Catherine Carey (aged about 16), daughter of Anne Boleyn's sister Mary, was married to Sir Francis Knollys (aged about 29) in April 1540.
Catherine Howard was about 17-years-old when she was married to Henry VIII of England (aged 49) in 1540.
Elisabeth of Valois (aged 13/14) was married to Philip II of Spain (aged 31/32) in 1559.
Anne of Denmark (aged 14) married James VI and I (aged 23) in 1589
Henrietta Maria of France (aged 15) married Charles I of England (aged 24) in 1625.
Princess Luisa Cristina of Savoy (aged 13) was married to her paternal uncle Prince Maurice of Savoy (aged 49) in 1642.
The future Mary II of England (aged 15), then known as The Lady Mary, married her first cousin William, Prince of Orange (aged 27) in 1677.
Lady Anne Churchill (aged 16) was married to Charles Spencer, 3rd Earl of Sunderland (aged 24), in 1700.
Princess Augusta of Saxe-Gotha (aged 16) was married to Frederick, Prince of Wales (aged 29), in 1736. They became the parents of George III of the United Kingdom.
Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz (aged 17) was married to George III of the United Kingdom (aged 23) in 1761.
Archduchess Maria Antonia of Austria (aged 14; later known as Marie Antoinette) was married to Louis-Auguste, Dauphin of France (aged 15), in April 1770.
Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (aged 17) was married in 1803 to Emich Carl, 2nd Prince of Leiningen (aged 40), whose first wife had been Victoria's aunt. After Emich Carl's death, Victoria went on to marry Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn, and became the mother of Queen Victoria.
Princess Sophie of Greece and Denmark (aged 16), sister of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, married her second cousin once removed Prince Christoph of Hesse (aged 29) in December 1930.
Infanta Maria Theresa of Portugal (aged 17) was about a month shy of her 18th birthday when she married Archduke Karl Ludwig of Austria (aged 39) in July 1873.
Victoria, Princess Royal (aged 17) married to Prince Friedrich Wilhelm of Prussia (aged 27) in Jan 1858
Elisabeth Amalie Eugenie "Sisi"
(16) married Franz Joseph I of Austria (age 23) in 1853.
Most prolific "incubators"
Christine of Mecklenburg-Güstrow 23
Lady Emily Fitzgerald 22
Maria Theresa of Austria 16
Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz 15
Eleanor of Castile 15
Maria Elizabeth of Bavaria 12
Queen Victoria 9 (42 grandchildren)
Princess Augusta (mother of George III) 9.
They made Camila too attractive in this
Its.difficult.to.find unattractive actresses with poor teeth .
She wasn’t ugly when she was young
@@tinabrenshe isn't ugly now
@@tinabren She wasn't pretty either. Rather plain with a lantern jaw.
@@tinabren Ugly is underselling it.
real Camila is an SHREK
this one is gorgeous
"I'm all for sharing" referring to sharing Charles
Well duh.
Also, the name of the restaurant, said earlier, is "Menage à trois" 🙃
That remark was sooooooo disgusting. I think I would tossed my lunch too after an experience as wretched as that.
duh
@phoebecaulfield4062 Oliver Hoare, Barry Mannakee, will carling, Henry Herbert, 17th Earl of Pembroke, Dodi Al Fayad (was engaged) James Gilby's girlfriend committed suicide when she find out about James's affair with Diana.
If his mother would've let him marry Camilla from the start she would probably still be alive. The Queen wanted someone with a better image and could give grand kids. She didn't think that the public would love Diana so much and she would be the 2nd favorite of the royals.
Diana never eclipsed the Queen. Diana was only popular among young and celebrity worshippers. Queen had respect and love from people of all ages. Diana only had the talent of making headlines and manipulating media bosses. A Jezebel may win hearts by the magic of seduction and manipulation, but she can never come closer to the dominance of Holy Mary, full of grace..
So sad that it is clearly obvious that Camilla is both trying to intimidate Diana, and pump her for information in this scene, “bragging about her intimate knowledge about the prince concurrently learning about Diana’s likes and dislikes so she can maneuver accordingly. More experienced and older people would have “grey-rocked” Camilla immediately, but poor Diana was just a naive 19 year old girl with little world knowledge. Now the master manipulator is on the throne and the poor, naive girl is dead. This scene almost foreshadows it.RIP, Diana.
Right when people asks that many questions and the vibe is just cold, best to just go. she was clearly jealous of her smh
I just don't see how a marriage between a 19 year old and a 36(?) year old was so okay..
I am happy that they let Charles "sow his wild oats" before getting married, but that didn't stop him from wanting to marry a specific person. It's funny that they were hoping this would be the way that they can avoid a divorce or an unhappy marriage.
The fact that the Princess of Wales had to be this young Cinderella looking innocent virgin, while he was a 36 year old man already tied to another person is just so SO wrong.
Edit: And Camilla is slightly older than Charles, so yeah, definitely has more life experience than Diana
@@samf.s.7731 she was 20 and he was 32 when they got married.
Diana's mother Frances was 18 when she got married to Diana's father John Spencer who was 30.
Diana's sister Jane was 20 when she got married to her husband Robert Fellows (private secretary of the Queen) who was 37.
So age difference was common at that time.
@@samf.s.7731 Camila was 16 when her 25 years old Andrew Parker Bowles approached her.
He was Camila's 1st love and she was devoted to him but Andrew was philander.
After 5 years Camila was fed up his cheating and warn him either he stop his philandering or she will break up with her but he didn't take her seriously and they broke up after few weeks 30 years old Andrew Parker Bowles started seeing 18 years old princess Anne.
They weren't serious because he was Catholic and before 2008 royal weren't allowed to marry Catholic.
Camila was furious and wanted to make Andrew jealous.
In 1969 charles and camila 1st met at polo match and at same evening in club where charles's ex girlfriend and now friend introduced camila to charles.
Camila told him, "My great grand mother was mistress of your great great grand father, so... what about us?
They laugh and talk to each whole evening.
They started dating both of them were not serious.
As time passed got more close were started to getting serious.
Royals made it clear that because she had past they won't allow them get married. When Charles was 24 they sent away from uk for his navy service for 8 months.
By then Princess Anne had broken up with Andrew long time ago was dating mark philips.
But Andrew was still close friend of princess Anne.
Royal didn't want to take any risk.
So Queen mother who was friends with camila and Andrew's family and God mother of Andrew Parker Bowles, talk to their families, that Andrew Parker Bowles wasdating Camila since she was 16and he hasn't proposed her yet, it's not good look for the families.
Camila and Andrew came from upper class wealthy family and they were financially dependent on them.
Their families without asking them announced their engagement on newspaper.
Under family pressure Andrew had proposed her and royals weren't going accept her so she no other option but say yes.
They got married in 1973.
Charles was sad but after some he started dating multiple women.
Camila was loyal to her husband but he was never loyal to her.
So after they had children and she was fed up with his philandering and they decided to have open marriage.
So in late 70's charles and camila rekindle their relationship.
You do know that this scene is part of a fictional television series, right? It isn't as though someone transcribed every Royal Family interaction and sold it to Netflix to make a show.
Diana should have never married him.
But who else ?
This is a fact
Why didn’t he marry Camila? Was it because she was too old???
@@learn_more_3329he wanted to but his family didn’t approve of the match and was sent to the military and she went on and married Parker-Bowles. If they had approved the match back then (it was during the 60s I believe) it would have spared a lot of people the heartache.
@@janwa09wow… that’s crazy but you’re right. Poor Diana
I'm actually 30 years old and find this bizarre competition with a teenager just disgusting
Ma'am this girl is just barely out of childhood
Imagine the man you loved and loved you in return wasn’t allowed by his family to marry you. You’d still find a way to be with eachother wtf.
@@victoriamorgan2261I wouldn’t 💀 that’s when you have to learn to move on and find someone’s whose family actually likes you. Carrying on an affair with a married man that could never marry you is setting yourself up for misery.
@@victoriamorgan2261
Ma'am that actually happened to me lol we were together for 6 years then our families didn't agree with our union because of our different ethnicities.
He married a much younger woman of his own ethnicity.
I just kissed his bride on the cheek and wished her a happy life and Vanished out of his sight forever. I'm not a pathetic desperate .
She seems jealous in every way
@@sakurakitsune6947😢😢😢😂
Uppity British people remind me SO MUCH of Uppity southerners in America. That passive aggressive rudeness? It’s so similar. They don’t come right out and say anything rude….but at the same time you know you’re being degraded
They played poor Diana. She was sooo young She never stood a chance. Camilla. We will never forget. 🇨🇦
This is one of my favourite scenes in the show. The depth to the characters, the delivery of the lines, the undercurrent of tension running throughout the scene was so palpable. I loved Emma but damn Emerald blew it out of the park!
Interesting how Diana felt the need to be tiny, but Camila just ate. She was bigger. It didnt bother Charles. Crazy how everything was under a microscope for Diana.
Diana was never fat, but eating disorders are about control more than image. It makes perfect sense that someone with 0 control of anything in their lives could develop an ED despite being small and beautiful already.
And let’s not forget that Charles once put his hand on her hip and told her point blank ‘ooo getting a bit chubby here aren’t we?’ Absolutely unforgivable
@@cazia9He is just a gross human being along with that hag Camilla. I don't care that they are both two old bags now. We all remember and it's why karma is kicking their behinds right now. The monarchy is a mess right now.
@@cazia9 that's what Diana said and she isn't reliable source 🙄.
@@krishnavyas313 really nice to talk about the dead woman who can't speak for herself now.
This was just Camilla belittling Diana.
"I know Charles so much better than you."
The truth hurts.
"I'm all for sharing" LMFAO
Emerald Fennel as Camilla eating so obnoxiously and passive aggressively because she subconsciously wanted to bare her fangs at Emma's Diana portrayal is sending me. ROFL
He proposed to Camilla first she said no THEN she chose to get married to someone else. She got divorced then she wasn’t eligible to marry Charles even though he still wanted to marry her.
It’s alway been Charles and Camilla. They couldn’t let go of each other even when it hurt so many other people.
Charles didn’t ask her to marry first and the queen didn’t allow it first.
Charles never proposed to Camilla. She wasn’t a virgin. Also Camilla was dating her husband and married him while Charles was out to sea for like 8 months for military service and Camilla married Andrew
No, he didn’t propose to Camilla because Charles family thought she was unsuitable (her lack of manners and being free with the boys), he was sent out with the military and by the time he got back she was married to Princess Anne’s old boyfriend
@@amyb1344That's revisionism from Charles's supporters. Camilla was always Andrew Parker Bowles's "main plate", she was obsessed with him and they had an open relationship followed by an open marriage - Anne was just one of the many women he bedded (although the most high-born notch on his bed). The original plan was for Charles to marry Dickie's granddaughter Amanda Knatchbull, but that's been left out of the show (along with Charles's other married mistresses like Lady Dale 'Kanga' Tryon and Janet Jenkins). Charles proposed to Amanda after Dickie's assassination but she turned him down.
Also, Camilla's father didn't want Charles to marry his daughter, she was already quite involved with APB, and wanted to marry him. And wasn't it an open joke that she teased him, and wasn't serious about him? Silly fool that he fell into that line, thinking she was the 'only' one, when she wad the only unsuitable one. 😕
Why does it remind me of Col Hans Landa talking to Emmanuelle Mimieux! 😂😂😂
3 people in the marriage just as she said!
Yes just like Diana was the third person in at least three married men’s marriages.
So it was a bit crowded.
I can't belive she is a Queen now....
An unloved queen
It's marvelous. 😊
@@gogo-fs4wlactually no. Many admire the bond that no one could break and which they kept for over 50 years.
that makes me sick to my stomach, i always loved diana better than her
queen Consort. Not an actual queen
"My word, you know so much about him! You're practically kindred spirits. It's a wonder you never married him."
The sarcasm in the voice and features when Camilla says “Did heeeeeee?” when Diana says she was good at interior decorating
Diana was a breeding mare for the royal family.
All women who marry into the family are. With the rare inclusion of men in Albert and Philip.
@@LunaGrapeIsn’t it the same for all men in the family to? A queen didn’t spontaneously give birth, the king sired it 😂
Camilla is only a year older than Charles, and diana is 13 years younger than him.
I thought he was 36 and she was 19, he's 18 years older according to most people describing the age gap.
Emma Corin, they were just so fantastic in this role 😊
@@samf.s.7731 chas was born Nov 1948 and Diana was born July 1961. YOu could look i tup!
@@samf.s.7731Charles was 12 or 13 years older than Diana.
I never knew she was older 😅
My dear God I thought the woman was older.
Excluding the last vomiting scene, the sounds in this clip are heaveeeeen, I've listened so many times already
Sadly, they were both manipulated into the marriage, and though she had huge reservations, it was too late to get out by then. He was a heap of trouble, couldn't even decide on a wife, and needed offspring. SHE deserved so much better ...
No one except Diana was manipulated
Yet she went on to sleep with married men. You would think she’d have known better after her experience!
Corrin was great here but the writing Morgan put for her here is just exquisite.
Camilla wishes she looked that good.
Camila is nice lady
She awslay in Charles side
Dania walk out of Charles
She blame on him because they had fight
Eventhough Diana was too young, she stayed a ghost in their life forever
The 4th season was the most highly praised of the whole series, largely because of its emotional honesty for everyone portrayed. After this, the final two seasons dove head-first into one-sided, not-always-subtle rear-kissing, the 6th/final one even more so than the 5th. (3/7/2024)
season 2 was the best, season 1 was the second best, season 4 was the third best, perhaps the fourth
Claire was my favorite Elizabeth. But Season 4 was pretty good. I feel in Seasons 5 and 6 they a) tried to rush through a really long timeframe in a short period of time, which made it seem disjointed and lacking emotional depth. And b) they were really playing to the American audience who love the royal family fantasy story without having experienced or knowing much about a constitutional monarchy, given how popular Diana, Meghan and Harry were there.
Surely couldn't take her seriously as camilla she's too good looking.
Yes, this lady is attractive with lovely hair and a nice voice. Camilla was not attractive like this actress.
Love that the restaurant is called Menage a Trois, lol.
If the family had just let him marry whom he wanted, Diana would be married to some other man so she could get constant attention. Oh well.
omg just looked it up 😂😂😂
Charles didnt want to commit until he was 30 and Camilla didnt want to wait that long to have kids.
And Diana would still be alive
Diana was all alone, in regards to this situation. She had no one who was looking out for her best interests, and this included her own family!😢
Camilla. Was. Destroyed. When. He. Chose. Diana. The. Queen. Would. Never. Have. Her
@ Camilla encouraged Charles to marry Diana. She thought that Diana could be easily pushed around and would do what she was told to do. Camilla didn’t realize that Diana had some fight in her and would push back!😏
Imagine being insecure enough that you feel the need to try and upstage a 19 year old because she’s marrying your side piece that you’re cheating on your husband with.
I doubt Camilla was actually threatened even though Diana was more beautiful. Camilla and Charles were in love she knew he just had to marry her for an heir and a spare for the Royal family.
Emerald Fennell MUST play Stevie Nicks if they ever make a Fleetwood Mac movie
If such a meeting did occur, it is borderline obscene. The future husband’s side piece talks with the future bride, which is to become the real side piece.
Yes, they did meet for lunch before the wedding. 😶
This is true unfortunately. Not everything in the Crown is fiction.
Maybe but nobody knows what was actually saud during this lunch. The meeting occurred but the exchange is fiction.
@@rrr441it isn't actually. Diana told everything about it on the secret tapes. She talked. A lot. Made no secret of what was said to her.
Among the things Camilla said to her during that dinner was the inquiry if Diana would spend more time in the city or the countryside. She wanted to know if she had Charles all to herself when he went hunting and other outdoor activities, which Diana hated.
She also told Diana things about Charles that only a mistress could know and the "well, we talk most days" bit is also true. It made Diana want to cancel the whole wedding but her sister told her "well, Dutch, your face is on the tea cups, you can't cancel now". Her family encouraged her to marry him, despite the fact that she knew Camilla was not history.
Camilla was a mean spirited girl, when confronted about the affair, during a party, she simply said "you have two boys and the love of the world, I can have Charles" or smth like that. Absolutely vile.
@@Ariana-wv4pf so just because Diana said it happened that way, it must be true?
My heart cries for Diana... Camilla knew Charles more😢😢
Excellent direction. It's a perfect scene - very engaging even when you're watching it for the fourth time.
Diana had a photo of Charles over her bed at boarding school, she wanted to be Princess of Wales. In the engagement interview she says "it's what I wanted, what I want", people give her no credit. She was a lot stronger than this fiction implies.
Charles was an obsession for her the way Camilla was an obsession for Charles. Maybe call it stubbornness not to give in, but she was fragile in the sense that she was very insecure and sensitive and easily got hurt deeply
She had pictures of Andrew, not Charles.
I'm sure it didn't ever happen this way. I'm sure it was awkward, and I'm sure words were exchanged, but I doubt that Camilla was as condescending as the actress portrays her here. It makes for excellent TV drama, though.
Agree
I don’t really care for the drama, but I’d really like this restaurant and that menu to be real!
Diana says that she's more of a townie here but in Scotland she says she's a country girl.
She grew up in the country, but she likes living in town
both actresses are beautiful..
the fact that emerald is also the one behind saltburn is crazy to me. because here, you’ll see her with the great acting chops and she literally makes a whole new generation hate camilla without most of them being born during this time. she is just so talented, in scenes and behind the scenes.
emerald isn’t talked about enough in the crown. just her work on saltburn, promising and her little role in barbie. but here, she plays a beautifully pathetic character just right. she deserves to get awards for supporting role just for this clip.
Everybody talk about Diana or Camilla, I am here for the dessert. Looks so yummy.
Camilla is also wearing a green blazer. 👀
So?
@@britishroyalfamilyvideos Camilla told Diana that Charles’ favorite color is green, so her wearing his favorite color further rubs the fact that she knows him better in Diana’s face.
Diana was pure light. God bless her
Absolutely. They killed her. She was to good for them.
@@songbird19210she was a marriage wrecker.
Prince chucky will NEVER live this down. He is a horrible man, and he ruined a beautiful girl.
Diana accepted his proposal very quiclky she had her ambition.
@@maryk3458she was 19 accepting a marriage proposal. She wasn’t the one making a mistake.
@@maryk3458 at 19. Who of us has any sense at 19. WHEN she accepted his proposal, she did not know about Camilla. When she found out she wanted to break it off but was not allowed because of the embarrassment to him. Plus, Charles did propose to Camila and his family reluctantly agreed. Camilla though chose Parker Bowles over him. She had only used Charles to make Parker Bowles jealous. After Camila's first husband repeatedly cheated, she started thing back up with Charles. Which is why Mountbatten's granddaughter did not want to marry Charles. After the Camila breakup and her marriage to Parker Bowles, Mountbatten arranged for Charles to marry his granddaughter who was Charles's second cousin. She decided not to go through with it said no in 1976. After that it was quickly arranged for Charles to date Sarah Spencer by the queen mother and Lady Roche, Daina's maternal grandmother. the story was told he broke it off with her because she talked to the press. who knows if that is true. Lady Jane Spencer was engaged to Fellowes ( I am sure she later thanked her lucky stars) so then Charles had to wait until Diana turned 18 to keep it from looking creepy. I still l found it creepy she being so young and him almost 13 years older. I also believe the virgin bride requirement was crappola, invented by the press to make it not seem creepy he was marrying someone so much younger. William and Kate proved that by living together almost 10 years and it being well known William was not her first "serious" boyfriend. (translation, she was not a virgin when they got together)
He loved Camila but wasn’t allowed to marry her. Their love stood the test of time.
@@victoriamorgan2261 wasn’t allowed? Who forbid him? Camilla’s husband?
You know the relationship is strong when they know each other embarassing health habits😂
People like fairy tales about true love.
Why, seeing it in real life, can't they accept it?
True love is not a competition for the youngest, most beautiful and prettiest.
True love is real love, because it is her, this girl, then woman and no one else.
Charles has loved Camilla all his life, despite his mother's decision.
And he waited more than 30 years for the right to marry his true love.
3:53 love the acting in this scene 👌😩
Emma Corrin said in an interview that to add tension, the director had Josh O'Connor sit in between them through the scene and instructed them to hold his hand, but only one of them could hold his hand at a time. Apparently Emerald held on firmly the entire time 😅. I love thinking about this fact while rewatching this scene. How frustrating for Emma and boastful for Emerald it must have felt. A clever way to have the actresses feel the desired emotions.
Her impression of his voice is pretty funny, not gonna lie.
I thought so too! Spot on 😂
All these rich guys wanting really young beautiful girls and Charles just wanted someone his own age who he had a lot in common with and the Firm was like nope…
the fact this relationship was allowed to go on so publicly for so long before they were even married during and after to the point that she’s now the QUEEN of england really shows the respect the monarchy has for women
You know Camilla is so grateful for Meghan Markle joining the Royal family, as she's no longer anywhere near the least favorite Royal. Then again, Prince Andrew also helped Camilla out there as well.
I suspect that Camilla's PR people are responsible for the daily barrage of hit piece articles on Harry and Meghan so people don't dwell on her. Harry called her a villain in his book Spare - that she was willing to throw them under the bus to advance herself.
I have never seen anyone eat a desert more aggressively.
You can cut the atmosphere with a knife.
Diana dealing with bulimia disorder... My heart got so heavy for her when she started to stress eat when camilla went off...
There are starving children in the world, and you sympathize with a foolish girl who never went hungry and wasted food?
She should have been in therapy, diagnosed, and the results given to the Queen. Prince Charles would have married someone suited to a Royal life.
I found myself wishing I had a large cream cake I could decorate Camilla’s face with.
Camilla can only wish she was as pretty and clever as the actress portraying her. As long as I live I’ll never understand what Charles was thinking. Ugh 💜
Charles had other mistresses than Camilla; Lady Kanga was said to be his favourite and he said she was the only woman that ever understood him. He treated her shabbily, too. Charles and Camilla do not even live together in the same residence. Charles is insecure and petulant and he chose ugly Camilla as she will never be popular with the public and take any spotlight from him.
Camilla's familiarity with him would have been my red flag.
They made Camila prettier on this show
This is psychological bullying. It feels like even I was under attack. For that, I loathe Camila, the most ungracious human being.
What a way to speak to your future queen.
I guess most of us didn't know that Camilla was the future queen then.
You cant deny the fact that she was a mistress first before she became the queen.
That is not a secret. Whole world knows this.
3:02 give her an Oscar for that look!
I think it's sad that so many people confuse truth with fiction. This is a tv drama. It's not a documentary.
He still had an affair with her so what’s the difference if they make it more melodramatic?
@@ascent8487the difference is that real people are portrayed here that are actually still alive. Would you like a partially made up and not factually true drama about YOU AND YOUR FAMILY to be airing around the globe?!?!
@@Swan.princess My past is so boring I would have nothing to embarrass me, so bring it on.
Not that anyone would watch though.
Yes I highly doubt it happened like this
I can't look at Emerald Fennell the same way anymore. haha.
Diana should have called it of after this, she should have said to this one Camilla, you know what, you marry him and walked away. Yeah there would have been a sensation for a few weeks but it would have blown over . Parker Bowles was there all the time she said here they speak every day. I didnt realise how bad Parker Bowles was.
Camilla was married to Andrew parker Bowles by then
@@maryk3458 but still poked her nose in
"I'm all for sharing" THE AUDACITY!!!!
It looks like they are eating poached eggs with cake frosting .
With seaweed flakes
I really want to know what they're eating, it really looks good lol
@@JohncharleS20042 chocolate mousse?
@@JohncharleS20042 I think it is a fancy shepherd's pie
"I'm all for sharing"
That you are.
Diana used to refer to her as "the Rottweiler. " Enough said.
Kudos to Emma and Emerald here. How often did they shoot this scene? Eating scenes are hell for actors. This scene is very well-edited.