So happy the 5010 is getting some love! I’ve had one since 2017 and have been proudly rocking “short travel” the whole time. Great content and thank you consistently entertaining the MTB world.
That's great man hopefully you enjoy it personally I work minimum wage and am in collage so I have to go cheaper I am thinking about the specialized fuse or the gt sensor but one day I will buy a beautiful Santa Cruz 5010 and I am 59 soooooo I am also a medium
I've had nearly every version of the 5010 and it just keeps getting better. The newest took a little getting used to since among everything else mentioned in the review the new 5010 comes with shorter cranks (170mm now vs. 175mm on previous versions); easy enough to adapt. Overall, it is only slightly more sluggish on the big climbs than previous versions, but it is more predictable and less twitchy on the way down, the switch in tires up front does give it more traction, and I don't even bother to lock out the rear suspension as much as I used to. So far this one puts the biggest smile on my face.
Wow Mike I think you are the right person to answer a question I have, I own a custom built 5010c V2, with a fox 34 performance elite 140mm fork, 170mm crank arms, 1x12 deore xt drivetrain, should I think to upgrade at least the frame? The new version is that good?
@@DavidCharpentierBuzano Hey David, that's a tough question to answer, but I'll try... First, economically, in my experience it's easier to sell a complete bike, (especially now, I just sold my v2 for well over half of what I'd paid for it), second I would say depends on the condition of what you have, what you think you could get for it, and how much you like it. I started out with the 5010 because I wanted something that climbed well, but could still ride aggressively elsewhere. When my son started riding I bought v3 for me, same build CC, X01... most of the changes there were subtle, full internal cable routing, flip chip, and a slight tweak to the geometry, which helped it track slightly better at speed on the way down. Now, I was perfectly happy with v2, v3...but because I was starting to attack some of the fun stuff more aggressively I thought it might be good to have just a bit more travel (that and I'd ridden a friend's Bronson and liked the feel of the lower linkage). So because I knew I could get a good price for the v2 I was able to justify v4. That's me, bikes are my thing and I have a wife who doesn't mind if I splurge... and I like changing things up every couple of years. Now back to you... How much will you have to invest in keeping the current bike tip/top e.g. suspension services, dropper post services, etc. If that is all manageable, or you do your own work and really like what you have based on your current riding, you probably don't need to do a thing. However, if things are starting to get long in the tooth and you're going to have to spend a bunch of money on upkeep to enjoy the current bike, it might be a good time to upgrade, especially if you think you'll enjoy the nuanced improvements to ride characteristics, and aesthetics. One more point, I like the Fox fork and was nervous about the Pike because it didn't have a lock out, but it turns out I like the Pike better because I find it more fine-tunable and plush with nice bottom out resistance. Anyway, a very long answer, but I hope it helps you somewhat. Good luck.
@@miketatara2025 thanks a lot, based on your answer and because almost everything in my current bike it's new, I think I'll keep it for at least a couple of years, thanks a lot for taking the time to answer.
This is why I still ride my TR Patrol. Acceleration, flickable, great in techy climbs, and descending is a dream. That being said the 5010 is on my radar as well.
I appreciate the honest thoughts from Palmer on 27.5. For years 27.5 fans have endured an almost evangelical onslaught from 29er fans. Is there not room for both?
No, closed-minded stupid people will always believe they know more than they do. 29" is like a ladder with wagon wheels unless you're well above 6' tall. It's just wrong. If their argument of "roll-over" is valid then bring on the 36"!!! Dumb, just dumb.
@@SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts I agree, I’m 5’10 with a bmx background (I’m 33) and it just feels more comfortable to me and I can “whip “ It around corners better
@@djeondj I seem to have been in a bit of a "mood" 3 months ago - lol But the point stands, how long before the industry decides for us that we *need* 32"?
Ha ha, skateboard type of bike- I love that! I skate and have only ridden 29 (8 years) until recently. I didn’t think I’d like 27.5, but I purchased a Heckler (2015) and absolutely love it! So fun
I had the chance to demo the previous version and this one side by side. Both cc models and X01, RS Super D and Pike Ultimate setup. Honestly, I like the V3 over the current model. It felt lighter, and much more active on the trails. The newer one felt more stable especially on descents, but for some reason it had a heft to it. Almost like riding a Bronson. And for jumping, the V3 hands down. I know it boils down to riding style, and I like having fun and playing around with jumps, manuals, drops, etc. I guess if I were to race this bike I’d go with the latest model, but for racing, 29” bike would perform better.
V3 is much lighter and still very progressive. I snapped a v2 bronson and put all of the parts on my v3 except the shock. The bike with carbon bars and crank, xt 1x11, 36 fork, ex511s with i9s went from 28.5 to 31. Same with the new 5010. Not that the new version isn't great but that weight is noticeable. Climbing is more efficient but who is buying a 5010 for climbing. Both are perfectly sufficient in that aspect anyway. Its a trail BMX bike.
If you are looking for an enduro bike you should be looking at the 29er options, most enduro bikes will be described as planted, and stable not poppy or nimble. The 5010 would not make a good enduro bike it is a lively trail bike the Bronson would be a good enduro bike especially considering the MX wheel sizing and the Nomad would be a more playful/freeride bike that is good for jumps and technical descents. For racing purposes you should look into 29ers because of the higher top speed and better rollover the 27.5 setup will be limiting.
You guys have a video called “rider unknown“… It’s the sickest video around… But there is a glitch in the sound, I was wondering if you could possibly fix that? I need to hear this whole video again
For the Megatower, Hightower and in some instances the Tallboy, a lot of dudes get the Juliana equivalents for it’s lighter more plush shock tune. I’ve never been a fan of VPP but I’ve always like Julianas color options better. I ride a medium so I would fit. After this review, I’m interested in giving the Furtado a go regardless of who it is intended. I build up my own bikes so I don’t really care about spec.
same frame but with a lighter shock tune. also different grips and sadle. they are also not available in large or xl. so if you are a short lightweight rider you might as well go for it
I really want a bike now :( i can afford to buy one.. Hey comment section Can i have your bike :( i'll take even it's old, have rust, missing pieces i'll take it pretty please?? Im desperate now :(
Simply for the sake of disliking a bike? What if, in the year 2020, most/all $7,000 bikes (like basically all modern mountain bikes, especially ones provided to bike reviewers) ARE good?
No, for the sake that some bikes are better than others and there should be a baseline. If there are ten $7,000 bikes-I’m sure 1 bike will be better or worse than another 1 of the bikes. I like Santa Cruz and sure this is a stellar bike but every review they do...it’s all the same. But, in the year 2020, bikes deserve social justice as well, eh? BLM-Bikes Lives Matter! I think you are on to something.
It's the 8k spec. Geo is the same. Frame is *almost the same. Rides almost identical with the exception of smoother shifting and such, but they didnt talk about that did they.
It isn’t normal. Bike manufacturers tend to send reviewers top of the line models but you can get the same experience for half the price plus a bit of weight.
Jesus, sata cruz is copying yeti on colors like crazy $8000 for that thing with gx transmission and that suspension???? Santa cruz is smoking crazy shit, are you kidding me🤣🤣🤣. Santa cruz is like glock in the firearms world, that thing is thick, that frame is like a butter bar, thick and square, and everybody has those things, you can find it in every corner🤣🤣
So happy the 5010 is getting some love! I’ve had one since 2017 and have been proudly rocking “short travel” the whole time. Great content and thank you consistently entertaining the MTB world.
Right on, I have last year’s model I got on discount before the lockdown started. Love the bike, feels like a BMX bike when I need it to be.
Cycle price
*Just an awesome **Latest.Bike** ....well constructed, sturdy, great looking…got me back out on the trails!! Could not be happier!!*
I'm that lucky guy that fits a medium so YES I bought a Julianna and love it.
Do you sit down to pee?
@@CCWclassiclmao leave the man alone
That's great man hopefully you enjoy it personally I work minimum wage and am in collage so I have to go cheaper I am thinking about the specialized fuse or the gt sensor but one day I will buy a beautiful Santa Cruz 5010 and I am 59 soooooo I am also a medium
@@thomasholkham4608 wants to go cheap but names specialized, if you want value go direct sales brand like yt canyon or propain
Ain't nuttin lucky in being 5'6" homeboi.
I've had nearly every version of the 5010 and it just keeps getting better. The newest took a little getting used to since among everything else mentioned in the review the new 5010 comes with shorter cranks (170mm now vs. 175mm on previous versions); easy enough to adapt. Overall, it is only slightly more sluggish on the big climbs than previous versions, but it is more predictable and less twitchy on the way down, the switch in tires up front does give it more traction, and I don't even bother to lock out the rear suspension as much as I used to. So far this one puts the biggest smile on my face.
Wow Mike I think you are the right person to answer a question I have, I own a custom built 5010c V2, with a fox 34 performance elite 140mm fork, 170mm crank arms, 1x12 deore xt drivetrain, should I think to upgrade at least the frame? The new version is that good?
@@DavidCharpentierBuzano Hey David, that's a tough question to answer, but I'll try... First, economically, in my experience it's easier to sell a complete bike, (especially now, I just sold my v2 for well over half of what I'd paid for it), second I would say depends on the condition of what you have, what you think you could get for it, and how much you like it. I started out with the 5010 because I wanted something that climbed well, but could still ride aggressively elsewhere. When my son started riding I bought v3 for me, same build CC, X01... most of the changes there were subtle, full internal cable routing, flip chip, and a slight tweak to the geometry, which helped it track slightly better at speed on the way down. Now, I was perfectly happy with v2, v3...but because I was starting to attack some of the fun stuff more aggressively I thought it might be good to have just a bit more travel (that and I'd ridden a friend's Bronson and liked the feel of the lower linkage). So because I knew I could get a good price for the v2 I was able to justify v4. That's me, bikes are my thing and I have a wife who doesn't mind if I splurge... and I like changing things up every couple of years. Now back to you... How much will you have to invest in keeping the current bike tip/top e.g. suspension services, dropper post services, etc. If that is all manageable, or you do your own work and really like what you have based on your current riding, you probably don't need to do a thing. However, if things are starting to get long in the tooth and you're going to have to spend a bunch of money on upkeep to enjoy the current bike, it might be a good time to upgrade, especially if you think you'll enjoy the nuanced improvements to ride characteristics, and aesthetics. One more point, I like the Fox fork and was nervous about the Pike because it didn't have a lock out, but it turns out I like the Pike better because I find it more fine-tunable and plush with nice bottom out resistance. Anyway, a very long answer, but I hope it helps you somewhat. Good luck.
@@miketatara2025 thanks a lot, based on your answer and because almost everything in my current bike it's new, I think I'll keep it for at least a couple of years, thanks a lot for taking the time to answer.
That blue raspberry is 🔥 too.
Juliana has had the best colors for a few years now.
This is why I still ride my TR Patrol. Acceleration, flickable, great in techy climbs, and descending is a dream. That being said the 5010 is on my radar as well.
That lockout is only for roads not trails. In the woods, just leave it open. Nice review!
Everyone should demo this bike, it is so awesome!
I appreciate the honest thoughts from Palmer on 27.5. For years 27.5 fans have endured an almost evangelical onslaught from 29er fans. Is there not room for both?
There is, and it's called a mullet bike :')
No, closed-minded stupid people will always believe they know more than they do. 29" is like a ladder with wagon wheels unless you're well above 6' tall. It's just wrong. If their argument of "roll-over" is valid then bring on the 36"!!!
Dumb, just dumb.
@@SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts I agree, I’m 5’10 with a bmx background (I’m 33) and it just feels more comfortable to me and I can “whip “ It around corners better
@@djeondj I seem to have been in a bit of a "mood" 3 months ago - lol
But the point stands, how long before the industry decides for us that we *need* 32"?
Ha ha, skateboard type of bike- I love that! I skate and have only ridden 29 (8 years) until recently. I didn’t think I’d like 27.5, but I purchased a Heckler (2015) and absolutely love it! So fun
I had the chance to demo the previous version and this one side by side. Both cc models and X01, RS Super D and Pike Ultimate setup. Honestly, I like the V3 over the current model. It felt lighter, and much more active on the trails. The newer one felt more stable especially on descents, but for some reason it had a heft to it. Almost like riding a Bronson. And for jumping, the V3 hands down. I know it boils down to riding style, and I like having fun and playing around with jumps, manuals, drops, etc. I guess if I were to race this bike I’d go with the latest model, but for racing, 29” bike would perform better.
BOOM! Long live the V3
V3 is much lighter and still very progressive. I snapped a v2 bronson and put all of the parts on my v3 except the shock. The bike with carbon bars and crank, xt 1x11, 36 fork, ex511s with i9s went from 28.5 to 31. Same with the new 5010. Not that the new version isn't great but that weight is noticeable. Climbing is more efficient but who is buying a 5010 for climbing. Both are perfectly sufficient in that aspect anyway.
Its a trail BMX bike.
Plus that Robins Egg blue...sick!
Hi, I plan to buy Santa Cruz bike. But can you give me advise which one is better for trail and for enduro. Bronson or 5010 or nomad?
If you are looking for an enduro bike you should be looking at the 29er options, most enduro bikes will be described as planted, and stable not poppy or nimble. The 5010 would not make a good enduro bike it is a lively trail bike the Bronson would be a good enduro bike especially considering the MX wheel sizing and the Nomad would be a more playful/freeride bike that is good for jumps and technical descents. For racing purposes you should look into 29ers because of the higher top speed and better rollover the 27.5 setup will be limiting.
Jeez, when did 140 become short travel? I race enduro and my fork is 140 and Ive never really considered it short.
Agreed. Is Ripley @120 considered super short? And Epic Evo @110 super duper short?
You guys have a video called “rider unknown“… It’s the sickest video around… But there is a glitch in the sound, I was wondering if you could possibly fix that? I need to hear this whole video again
Which bike did best on those nasty tech climbs?
Grabbed one of these new with a pretty sweet/fat discount..... love it
Is the CC frame worth the extra coin? Advantages & disadvantages?
Is this a xc or dh bike...
All sold out here in SW Idaho
The best Santa Cruz bike, even though I can't I afford it.
I like the slow drip rather than posting them all. Better for my discipline
Gostei muito legal é parabéns 🇧🇷
chick: best color I've seen on a bike this year
Evil Wreckoning: lololololzzz
crawl back into your cave
Better than castor oil, I *puked* the moment I saw it.
I’ve heard you guys say some stupid things over the years of watching the bike bible but “dreading” the day of riding 27.5’s takes the cake.
Literally "unrideable anymore". I can't stand this 29 is the new Standard bullshit anymore. These huge wheels only make Sense at 6ft+
Serious question, is Juliana Furtado a mens bike or unisex? Thanks to whoever would answer 😃
It’s whatever YOU want it to be.
@@dansburns Thank you Dan for answering back! 😃
For the Megatower, Hightower and in some instances the Tallboy, a lot of dudes get the Juliana equivalents for it’s lighter more plush shock tune. I’ve never been a fan of VPP but I’ve always like Julianas color options better. I ride a medium so I would fit. After this review, I’m interested in giving the Furtado a go regardless of who it is intended. I build up my own bikes so I don’t really care about spec.
same frame but with a lighter shock tune. also different grips and sadle. they are also not available in large or xl. so if you are a short lightweight rider you might as well go for it
@@TPV07 Thank you!
Amazing.....
i wish i have bike like that for my birthday 😔
what better: this one or Yeti SB 165?
Those are completely different bikes
@@larsgibsonsmelker1365 both got two wheels
@@likeris2 both do! Both have completely different geo and suspension travel or applications
@@larsgibsonsmelker1365 so what? I need to go to job every day.
@@likeris2 ummmm do you want to pedal harder/work harder or work smarter?
Sir my name sheeraz ali .im from Pakistan. sindh ..sir im want this cycle...
Parabéns
Do they always need to do manuals in the videos😂 come on guys we all know you cool💪
those trails look like they are in santa cruz
4:20 - yeah no shit.
Are they making self propelled look more like ebikes because they can’t make ebikes look like self propelled!
I have a 5010 CC, is a great bike but I am not paying that amount of money again
Fezzari Delano Peak review!!
I would ride that bike until I died
I WISH I HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO BUY AH BIKE LIKE THAT😔😔😔
جيد
Broo plzzz can't you gift any of them to mee🙄😭
Climb switch? I dont touch mine on my hightower EVER! Lol
same
I am a Sri Lankan and a student, my country is in a big economic crisis, the price of a bicycle has gone up a lot, please help me buy a bicycle 🙂
I really want a bike now :( i can afford to buy one.. Hey comment section Can i have your bike :( i'll take even it's old, have rust, missing pieces i'll take it pretty please?? Im desperate now :(
I think the girl is against getting ready for the camera.
Eae canal foda
Nelly furtado
Please give a bad review once
Simply for the sake of disliking a bike?
What if, in the year 2020, most/all $7,000 bikes (like basically all modern mountain bikes, especially ones provided to bike reviewers) ARE good?
No, for the sake that some bikes are better than others and there should be a baseline. If there are ten $7,000 bikes-I’m sure 1 bike will be better or worse than another 1 of the bikes.
I like Santa Cruz and sure this is a stellar bike but every review they do...it’s all the same. But, in the year 2020, bikes deserve social justice as well, eh?
BLM-Bikes Lives Matter! I think you are on to something.
I think the 5010 is great for average riders. It doesn't deserve all the praise it gets.
lol six feet
Mullet bike candidate.
They’re all 6’ apart but you know damn well they’re cramming into that truck. Come on guys. Stop being PC for the camera.
u need to start reviewing sweet spot bikes price wise....8k...just stupid
It's the 8k spec. Geo is the same. Frame is *almost the same. Rides almost identical with the exception of smoother shifting and such, but they didnt talk about that did they.
They don't have choices on which level of the bike they get
you work for bike mag ?
Not everyone’s broke like you mate 😂😂😂
Our society must be doing well if an $8100 bike is normal. What's a pandemic? Unemployment? Guess I'll ride my 5010 to job interviews
I would likely hire you just for rolling up on that!
It isn’t normal. Bike manufacturers tend to send reviewers top of the line models but you can get the same experience for half the price plus a bit of weight.
Not everyone’s broke mate 😂😂😂
@@ur2slob724 Haha. That's why I'm looking at the 5010. Job, money, bikes.
i wish i could like this a thousand times lol
The only thing about these videos I'm not a fan of is Travis' monotone, uninterested sounding narrative. Other than that, great job on the bike tests👍
Jesus, sata cruz is copying yeti on colors like crazy $8000 for that thing with gx transmission and that suspension???? Santa cruz is smoking crazy shit, are you kidding me🤣🤣🤣. Santa cruz is like glock in the firearms world, that thing is thick, that frame is like a butter bar, thick and square, and everybody has those things, you can find it in every corner🤣🤣