Santa Cruz 5010 vs Ibis Mojo 4: Fun-sized trail bikes.

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @T-ROF
    @T-ROF 4 года назад +16

    this is the most useful comparison I've seen in a long, long time - thanks

  • @SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts
    @SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts 4 года назад +16

    Thank the Lord for 27.5" and those who know how right they are.

  • @mtbeliever5833
    @mtbeliever5833 4 года назад +26

    “Star Warsing through tree”. Makes me want to ride

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      It’s the best way I could describe the feeling.

    • @VonFels
      @VonFels 3 года назад

      That’s exactly how I’ve always thought of it too.

    • @mtbcyclist
      @mtbcyclist 3 года назад

      We used to call that the Ewok (speeder bike) effect.

  • @mountainbikingwithmtbryan
    @mountainbikingwithmtbryan 4 года назад +4

    I bought Santa Cruz 5010 at Bikers Edge July last year and I love the bike so much! I’ve been recording all my rides together with my friends. Thank you Bikers Edge for the great customer service you guys Rock!🤘-MTB Rad

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Stoked you're loving it! Glad we could help you find the right bike.

  • @garywinslow5607
    @garywinslow5607 4 года назад +6

    Well this review/comparison was probably the best I’ve seen, like ever. Content and points the ‘average joe’ (i.e. most riders) will need, rather than an ‘enduro bro’ fashionable stuff a lot of the bike sites put out. Excellent!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +3

      Thanks for the kind words. I love hearing that. I definitely try to cater to the average Joe.

  • @perseverance86
    @perseverance86 4 года назад +7

    Awesome review 👌. I have a Mojo 3 with 150mm 36 and DPx2 with 2.6 Rocket Ron tires. It can do anything and is still fast, fun and poppy. Love Ibis bikes

  • @dadventuretv2538
    @dadventuretv2538 4 года назад +5

    Well done. That was one of the best bike reviews comparo I’ve seen. I understand each bike better after watching this, unlike many other reviews where I’ just like: whhhhaaaaaaaat?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      Hey thanks for the kind words. I’m glad you liked it! It can be tough to stay organized doing these things.

  • @verymental6999
    @verymental6999 4 года назад +6

    Confirmed. My 5010 V2 will be my fun bike until it dies. Good comparison review, seems very honest.

  • @daddywaddy8781
    @daddywaddy8781 3 года назад +1

    Mojo 4 it is. Thanks for your awesome review and comparison. Really helpful for those of us who cant demo them all.

  • @BrianVaughn
    @BrianVaughn 4 года назад +6

    So I ride in the midwest and enjoy the v3 5010. I feel like the changes made in the v4 are similar to what I've already done to me 5010. I want a bike that is more capable for my trips to Duluth and out west. My local trails are a little more groomed and more flowy but I do enjoy riding the hand cut trails more. I never care how fast I am on the climbs but I do care about the downs. I think i'd like the v4 5010.

    • @B1KER
      @B1KER 4 года назад +2

      Here I thought I found something new a s good ole BV beat me to it. 😂

  • @TheGreaterU
    @TheGreaterU 4 года назад +2

    Very thorough review thanks! Just bought a new Ripley frame, stoked to custom it.

  • @burddog0792
    @burddog0792 4 года назад +7

    Would love to see them both in alloy frames.

  • @911_dan2
    @911_dan2 4 года назад +1

    great comparison, everyone should go this in-depth

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @johlou8329
    @johlou8329 4 года назад +1

    Awesome review! I own the newest 5010 and this couldn’t be more spot on. Harsh techy downhills and jumps while enjoying the scenery climbing back up to do it again! Choose your bike to your style and just ride your friggin’ bike 🤘🏽🤙🏽.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      Thanks! Glad you’re loving the new bike.

  • @JustDrinkingCawfee
    @JustDrinkingCawfee 4 года назад +1

    Been loving these comparisons guys. KEEP IT UP.

  • @micheandmikey
    @micheandmikey 4 года назад

    You've pretty much summed it up....bike park = get a bigger bike! For a 130mm travel bike (traditionally) the Ibis is what you're looking for. 3000+ vertical climbs, cross country terrain, poppy & fun = Ibis. If you're looking for a 130mm travel bike for the bike park (said no one) it's clearly the 5010. Thanks for the great review!

  • @MTBActionCam1
    @MTBActionCam1 4 года назад +8

    Seems like the Mojo is like the past 5010s in terms of playful/poppy and the new 5010 is more like past Bronsons maybe? Great review as always!!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +2

      Hey thanks! Yeah that assessment is pretty accurate. The new 5010 is still more playful than the Bronson, but it's a lot burlier than the old 5010 model.

  • @thefontzchannel
    @thefontzchannel 4 года назад +10

    You left out if you like taking a bong hit this bikes for you!😆 Best reviewer on RUclips!!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +5

      Referring to the 5010? That was when Ratboy rode one. It's cleaned up now. Ha.

  • @SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts
    @SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts 4 года назад +2

    A couple comments,
    - The "Liveliness" you feel on the Mojo4 is more than partially due to it's so-called "Flex". I rode a number of times with Scot Nichol in the '90s and I remember him having a love for chromoly and Ti because they provided feedback and felt *alive* where the full aluminum full sus Turner "Burner" Horst link I remember he rode for a short distance on one ride felt "Dead" - and that was the first time I recall ever hearing the word "Dead" applied to a bike.
    After I rode it a few weeks later, I had to agree.
    Everyone says the same 2 things about Ibis, *"Lively"* and *"Flexy"* but I don't believe you can have one without the other, and rather than talk about it as "Flex" I would like people to realize it's the "Life factor" Ibis *intentionally* builds into what would otherwise be a more typically dead carbon machine feel.
    - 2nd, I'd like you to bring a Transition Spur and Pivot Switchblade review to life because I feel it will benefit you & your credibility to have those riding experiences under your "Reviewer's belt".
    Thank you for your honest & rather unbiased reviews!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      We review the Spur a few months ago.

  • @n8guy
    @n8guy 3 года назад

    What an EXCELLENT review and comparison. Thank you so much!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад

      Hey thanks. Glad you liked it!

  • @serge3463
    @serge3463 3 года назад

    I drove ibis mojo and Santa Cruz and what I seen and felt is that ibis feels like it’s helping you paddle and so comfy

  • @sm-qw9mj
    @sm-qw9mj 4 года назад +1

    I got the new 5010 because it became a more capable trail bike. Many people seem to think it was better as it was.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Personally I like that they made it more burly. If you like the way the old one rides but want a newer, more modern feel, the Mojo is a good option.

  • @siTTinLo
    @siTTinLo Год назад +1

    I have a 2019 SC 5010 and I think it rides much better than the v4-v5 with the low VPP. Hops and bops all over the trail like a happy little bunny.

  • @Maestro...
    @Maestro... 2 года назад +1

    Okej, i was like....lets get a mojo, seems like a bike for me...until he said "if u are listening to audiobooks while riding, pick the mojo " 😂 always had my eyes on the 5010 anyway haha

  • @jeffreyccv
    @jeffreyccv 4 года назад +4

    Long live the 5010cc V3!!

    • @LES7131
      @LES7131 4 года назад +1

      i'm with you! only wishing for a bigger bike on the biggest of days in the alps.
      as soon as you get on it you smile, up down sideways, don't matter
      enjoy
      don't even know why i watch bikereviews, love that bike...

    • @jeffreyccv
      @jeffreyccv 4 года назад

      @@LES7131 lol yeah I finally got my v3 dialed... not sure why I watch any1 else's whips either... lol cheers mate

  • @benjaminvivar7855
    @benjaminvivar7855 4 года назад +1

    Nice recommendations you really know your stuff.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Hey thanks! I just make it up as I go!

  • @ovtj
    @ovtj 4 года назад +1

    Which one would be more manageable in terms of climbing and flick-ability for a shorter rider?

  • @duffyrides
    @duffyrides 3 года назад

    Great review! Very detailed. Good stuff.

  • @konakona1649
    @konakona1649 4 года назад

    Nice review! Makes we want to get a new bike.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Hey thanks! Glad you liked it!

  • @christophercampbell5742
    @christophercampbell5742 4 года назад +1

    Excellent review as i was considering both these bikes! Any thoughts or an actual comparison on the 2020 Transition Scout to either of these?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Have t ridden the scout but based on numbers, I’d expect it to ride and feel bigger than both of these. Just my guess though.

  • @baddriversofcolga
    @baddriversofcolga 4 года назад +3

    I'm disappointed that they didn't come out with a Mojo in aluminum like they did with the Ripmo.

  • @cantwheelie_rob
    @cantwheelie_rob 3 года назад

    Welp! This helped me decide. Well put together review! Thanx x1,000,000

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words! Glad you liked it.

  • @Yogert422
    @Yogert422 Год назад

    I know this is a few years old but hopefully you could share some info on which one of these you would race for dual slalom? I’m looking at the 2020 model 5010c thought that has 130mm travel front and rear, that has the shock mounted near the top tube. Seem like based on this review it would be the mojo 4.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  Год назад +1

      I’ve never raced dual slalom so I might not be the right guy to ask. Mojo 4 was more enjoyable in the corners than the old 5010 though.

  • @TheEEZ1234
    @TheEEZ1234 3 года назад

    Great reviews. I'm deciding on my next bike. Currently riding a 2018 Santa Cruz tallboy. I really love it. However I'm looking for something with a little more downhill capability but still can climb well. It looks like they've increased the travel on the new tallboy and made it a little more slack. Wondering how the tallboy compares with the MOJO. The 5010 seems a bit more overbiked for what I ride most of the time. Any comparison between those two bikes or any others I should be looking at? Im local. looking to hit your shop up this spring.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words. It can be a little tough to compare 27.5 bikes with 29. They just feel so different on the trail. The new Tallboy is a stellar descender but it won’t climb as well as the one you have. The Mojo is probably the better climber as it’s lighter, more efficient and great in technical stuff. On the DH id probably prefer the Tallboy with the bigger wheels. They make up for the lack of travel.
      We will have a video coming out this week going over the Tallboy, Ripley and Spur. I’d recommend any of those.

  • @federicomarmolejo1952
    @federicomarmolejo1952 4 года назад

    Excellent review!!

  • @TheNationalTrails
    @TheNationalTrails 4 года назад +1

    Spot on with the Mojo 4 review.
    Adding personal feedback: ( Please don't think its negative... I'm learning as I go here and have ridden numerous bikes. )
    I found the Fox Factory "Trail Tune" rear shock on the Mojo 4 size large to be way overdamped. It's constantly getting held up on square edges with steep climbs and never opens up to help calm down "standard" trail chatter. I absolutely do not experience the "hoverbike" DW Link characteristic: at proper SAG and even with additional SAG. I kind of find the rear suspension to be similar to that of a 115mm on the 19' Giant Trance Advanced Pro 0 29 and also the 110mm of travel 2017-2021 Giant Anthem 27.5. These two bikes use a 42.5mm stroke vs the Mojo 4 at 50mm.
    Again, personal feedback notes... I just don't care for the 37mm offset fork at all. Again, seems to get held up. I agree its a great Grip 2 damper, however, its also diving and breaking traction when cambering on climbs. The headtube length is way too tall and the riser bar does't help at all. ( Not being negative... I dont care for 44mm reduced offset 29er forks either as they also dive and stab the trail when cambering on steep tech climbs. And yes, I do regularly ride "slow" for hours-on-end in very technical environments. )
    To be fair, I do find the bike feels locked-in when riding at regular trail speeds. Its the right size for me, that's for sure
    Anyway, I can't help but think of the Mojo 4 as a bike from 2011 to 2015 vs a modern era Long/Low/Slack. Even if someone were to have somehow rode the Mojo 4 in 2015, that 37mm reduced fork offset would likely be a step in the wrong direction, in my opinion.
    I have owned and ridden a 2014 Giant Anthem Advanced 0 large that has a similar "sprite" quality to it as the Mojo. However, the Anthem weighs 3 pounds less with a dropper post. Does 2014 have the edge on a 2021 Ibis?
    I have owned and ridden the 2017 Giant Anthem Advanced 0 large. That bike seems to have a bottomless rear shock feel. It rides significantly better than the overdamped "Trail Tune." No, neither bike has the Seattube angle and/or headtube angle of the Mojo. However, I absolutely pushed myself to the limits on both Anthems and have more confidence on the 17' than the Mojo 4.
    Frankly, I am dissapointed that the Mojo doesn't have the "hoverbike" feel. And I feel as if the suspension is not a "tool" to manage the trail. This brings me back to the comment on the 2014 Anthem's "sprite." Its like it only wants to pop off an over-damped shock as if "I have to appreciate the wheelbase." However, I had a bottomless ride quality and pop on the 17' Anthem I can assure you. Which, kind of spins off the terrible notion/comment, "as if the bike is from 10-years ago." Again, this is me trying to appreciate where it fits.
    Anyway, I feel sad about the ride quality. I owned an 18' Ripmo V1 size large and really liked the shock tune! Who doesn't?
    Moving forward... After everything I've said, I haven't done any shock tuning and have used the recommended settings on my first three rides. I suppose eventually I'll get it figured out. But, yeah, not exactly a great "ride-every-day bike" for me as delivered. Especially considering the thought of purchasing a new front fork to replace a 2021 Fox Factory 34 Grip 2 37mm reduced offset, replacing the carbon riser bar, and possibly replacing the 2021 Fox Factory DPS EVOL shock. Like, seriously, this is me upside down looking forward here!!! The Carbon S35 wheels with I9 Hydra hubs are a real question mark now. I just don't think that was a reasonable upgrade path at all. There's simply way too much to be sorted out here.

    • @robhughes645
      @robhughes645 3 года назад

      Could I ask your weight? This is the first time I've heard about the rear end not being anything but exceptional and as a 'solid' chap myself I'm wondering if the issues around diving through the travel can be solved with spacers, or is the Mojo just too lightweight for bigger guys?

  • @xhead86
    @xhead86 4 года назад

    Le comparison that’s I wants to see! You see I am le French and I likey ze bike! Santa Cruz vs. Santa Cruz!

  • @bikersedge
    @bikersedge  4 года назад +5

    Which one fits your riding style?

    • @rubinpanis8471
      @rubinpanis8471 4 года назад +3

      5010 V3 - Don't understand why the went for the lower linkage.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +5

      It has a really good feel to it, but I do think it changed the playful nature of the bike a bit.

    • @rubinpanis8471
      @rubinpanis8471 4 года назад

      @@bikersedge At least the V4 looks just awesome + to be honest I had to tame that little V3 bronco by going for 37mm rims with 2.6 tires :-)

    • @DavidCharpentierBuzano
      @DavidCharpentierBuzano 4 года назад +2

      I'm in between, I ride a 5010c V2, with 140 fox 34 fork and a fox dps 130mm haha

    • @SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts
      @SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts 4 года назад

      @@bikersedge I wonder how the Santa Cruz 5OLO would ride & feel with a bit over-pressured rear shock. Obviously harsher but would it perhaps bring it closer to keeping up with the Ibis on climbs or *ruin* it's technical prowess?

  • @keith7043
    @keith7043 3 года назад

    Connor
    Transition scout vs sc 5010 for tight, twisty mostly smooth trails with occasional small jumps/drops?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад

      Haven’t been able to ride a Scout yet. I’d guess it’s one step burlier than the 5010 based purely on travel and geo. Not sure though.

  • @bmdt81
    @bmdt81 3 года назад

    Do you think your assessment being based on XL sizes might differ from mine, which would be on small sizes?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад +1

      Tough to know. The sizes should fit their respective riders the same but not everything on the bike scales proportionally.

  • @trailcollective7013
    @trailcollective7013 4 года назад

    Which bike would you pick if you were trying to KOM a pedally section of trail?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Let's be honest-I don't get KOMs. If it's smooth I'd take the Mojo. If it's rocky I'd go 5010.

  • @ur2slob724
    @ur2slob724 4 года назад +1

    Santa Cruz yewww!

  • @chuckmcgadden643
    @chuckmcgadden643 4 года назад +1

    Solid outstanding informative review! Thinking Mojo 4 but Ripley 4 has been a blast to demo too! What do you think between the two for a one bike quiver?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +2

      I think the Ripley will be more versatile but they’re pretty similar. Mostly comes down to wheel size and your preference.

    • @chuckmcgadden643
      @chuckmcgadden643 4 года назад +1

      Biker's Edge - Thank you! Riding a DV9 an absolutely love it, so maybe Ripley makes sense...

    • @SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts
      @SoonDumpingAllGmailAccounts 4 года назад

      @@bikersedge Right, and I look at the Mojo4 as being kind-of a "Ripley-mo", finding its way into the narrow niche between the Ripley & Ripmo but on 27.5" wheels.

  • @IsraelMagalit
    @IsraelMagalit 4 года назад

    Great comparison

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      Hey thanks for the kind words!

  • @talonmills873
    @talonmills873 4 года назад

    In the local area to you all, looking for my next bike. Can't decide between 5010 and Tallboy. Thoughts?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      That one mostly comes down to wheel size. We have individual reviews for each of those bikes. Coincidentally, it's the same trail for both videos. Watching those might help you decide.

  • @ddcycleman
    @ddcycleman 4 года назад

    which one would you recommend for an aggressive new england tech gnar rider? lots of tight boulder fields and granite? lots of punchy techy climbs. not really that high speed, most of my riding is slower due to the trails being technical.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +2

      I think the 5010 might be a little more suited to your riding style. It has a shorter wheelbase and a little deeper suspension feel for the boulders. Also, it is really good on technical climbs. The Mojo feels a bit more energetic and snappy, but I think the strengths of the 5010 would suit you better.

    • @ddcycleman
      @ddcycleman 4 года назад +1

      @@bikersedge thanks

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM 3 года назад

      @@ddcycleman What's your age bracket?

    • @ddcycleman
      @ddcycleman 3 года назад

      @@RU2AIM been on a mojo for a few months

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM 3 года назад

      @@ddcycleman
      ? older than 50

  • @jamess.7261
    @jamess.7261 4 года назад

    Curious if you feel the Mojo descends better than the Ripley?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      They’re pretty similar in terms of capability but they go about it differently. The Ripley has the advantage of the bigger wheels but the Mojo’s suspension offers a bit more control. I guess if I had to drop in on a gnarly DH on either of them I’d go Mojo.

  • @furion..
    @furion.. 3 года назад +2

    Man, I wish you would've used the Santa Cruz wheels on both, would've been more about the frame & suspension - regardless of the wheels which will change the stability, handling, flex etc..

  • @MK4vDubbin
    @MK4vDubbin 4 года назад +1

    Same level of components? Mmmm.....a pike vs a Factory Grip 2 34 and Factory DPS rear for less money? Excellent review though. Sub’d.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Right. The suspension level is slightly more expensive on the Mojo.

  • @allankrogh6707
    @allankrogh6707 4 года назад

    I'm probably most into ibis mojo v4. could not, make a comparison with mojo v4 and yeti sb 140. I am a little in doubt whether it should be an sb140 or mojo v4.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      If I can get my hands on an SB140 I’ll make one. Although I think the SB140 is in a bigger class like the Bronson and Scout rather than the Mojo and 5010.

  • @jordanklammer2643
    @jordanklammer2643 4 года назад

    How do these 2 compare to the norco optic? Would be interesting to add the optic to the mix

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      The optic is a 29er so it’s a whole different beast.

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM 3 года назад

      @@bikersedge I ride a 135mm 2019 Switchblade with 27.5" and a 150mm FOX36, what do you think I'd like better about either of these, but then - what would I be sacrificing?

  • @TrolleLOL
    @TrolleLOL 4 года назад

    Any thoughts on Specialized status 140 mullet Bike?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Haven't ridden it. We don't carry Specialized so we won't be able to do a review.

    • @TrolleLOL
      @TrolleLOL 4 года назад

      Biker's Edge Too bad you cant review whatever you want, i really like your reviews 👍

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Hey thanks. It’s tough when we don’t have access to certain brands. We have a ton of brands though so we can do a pretty diverse set of reviews.

  • @RU2AIM
    @RU2AIM 3 года назад

    I have to wonder two things,
    1) Would the Mojo "Flex" issue be dealt with by switching to a FOX36 and
    2) Sometime in the foggy past, have I already made this comment..?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад +1

      1) yes partially. It’s something I didn’t test or try but it certainly wouldn’t hurt.

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM 3 года назад

      @@bikersedge Being 265lbs, would you recommend going up to a Fox 38 or do you think the 36 should be adequate if I don't do much in the way of drops or long jumps?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад +1

      @@RU2AIM probably ok with a 36 if you don’t ride too aggressively. You won’t find a Zeb or 38 with less than 160mm. That would change the geo a lot.

  • @TrolleLOL
    @TrolleLOL 4 года назад +1

    Goddamit im the type A rider but with music instead of Podcasts in my ears! What to do?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +2

      You have to buy both I guess.

  • @ianfleischhacker6154
    @ianfleischhacker6154 4 года назад

    Why not include the RM Thunderbolt in that mix?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +2

      We don't carry Rocky Mountain at the shop. We don't have access to it. Plus the Thunderbolt is a few years old. These bikes are both brand new this year.

  • @mtbcyclist
    @mtbcyclist 3 года назад

    Seems like the old 5010 is like the Mojo. I say that as a gen 1 5010 owner.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад

      You’re not wrong. Mojo4 feels more like the old 5010. Except it’s bigger.

  • @bahoooutot
    @bahoooutot 4 года назад +2

    Didn’t know listening to audiobooks on a ride is a thing 🤣

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +2

      You probably ride a 5010 then.

  • @OscarHernandez-xx2je
    @OscarHernandez-xx2je 4 года назад

    So, the Mojo 3 then?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      I think the 4 is a much more versatile bike.

  • @Farthendur
    @Farthendur 4 года назад

    Santa Cruz bikes with the lower vpp handle great, but they are stupid heavy, I have a Hightower LT and a Tallboy 4 and the Tallboy weights 33 pounds/15 kilos... the LT is almost 1 kilo/2 pounds lighter...

    • @Farthendur
      @Farthendur 4 года назад

      Both carbon C S builds... just to clarify that.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Agreed. They aren’t light. I think I’d rather have the amazing suspension performance over a lightweight bike, though.

    • @ur2slob724
      @ur2slob724 4 года назад

      I prefer the older vpp v2 Bronson is epic compared to the v3 👎

  • @haydenlewis4040
    @haydenlewis4040 4 года назад

    How does the Orbea Occam compare to the Mojo? I know you said that felt fast and lively too.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      It's pretty tough comparing bikes with different wheel sizes. The Occam feels like a better climber and faster overall. The Mojo feels quicker and more mobile.

    • @haydenlewis4040
      @haydenlewis4040 4 года назад

      Biker's Edge wow.... saying they Occam may climb better is amazing because the Mojo with DW link sounds hard to beat! Thanks for the reply.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      ​@@haydenlewis4040 To the Mojo's credit, I've only ridden it with the Maxxis Assegai tires. if it came with the High Roller/Rekon like the Occam, It might be hard to say which one climbs better. On techy climbs, I think the Mojo would handle better, but on a wide-open, straight climb, the Occam might take the cake. The Occam is a pretty remarkable climber.

    • @dansburns
      @dansburns 4 года назад

      That is quite the compliment, but I do remember from your Occam review you said the only two bikes that climbed better were the Ripley and Ripmo. I agree on the tires for the new Mojo. DHR and DHF combo seem a little pretentious, much more with Assegai. I’d run something a lot less burly on a bike like this.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      The Ripley and the Ripmo V1 are right there in the mix with the Occam. I think the Ripley especially, climbs better than the Mojo. Again, I’ve only ridden it with the Assegais. Swapping those out for normal trail tires would make this a much better climber.

  • @ShawnBox
    @ShawnBox 4 года назад

    So essentially the Mojo is the V3 5010. While the V4 5010 is now a shadow of the Bronson.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Not a bad way to put it. Except the Mojo is still more capable and modern than the 5010v3. Climbs really well too.

    • @BHShaman
      @BHShaman 4 года назад +1

      @@bikersedge fair enough about the V3... ;)

  • @Memeteam903
    @Memeteam903 3 года назад

    I really wanted the mojo but no dealers have them in my area and the wait time to order is pretty nuts. The only bike I liked and could get in a reasonable time is the YT Izzo.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад

      That’s a bummer. Bike inventory has been really tough this year.

    • @Memeteam903
      @Memeteam903 3 года назад

      @@bikersedge it’s pretty crazy that I called all ibis dealers in NC any no one had any ibis bikes except for the ripmo AF... I really hope the Izzo is good sadly there is very few reviews for it...

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад

      That’s one I haven’t ridden.

  • @PedalingDave
    @PedalingDave 4 года назад

    Yeah man, really good review/comparison.
    Digging that Mojo 4!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Hey thanks! Glad you like it. I'm digging the Mojo too. Stoked that one gets to live in my garage.

  • @robindale9319
    @robindale9319 4 года назад

    Getting a 5010 cc is almost impossible. Looks like January

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад

      Unfortunately that’s the case with a lot of bikes right now. It’s not a problem unique to the 5010.

  • @BMfins
    @BMfins 4 года назад

    Giant trans x review?
    Can’t afford these bikes😕 $3500 is my limit.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      We do sell giant. We are waiting for a Trance X demo to arrive. Stay tuned.

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM 3 года назад

      Ripmo AF?

  • @bauke-LV426
    @bauke-LV426 4 года назад

    "if you listen to audiobooks when you ride" 😊 really? Does anyone do that?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +2

      Shhhhh. Don’t tell. I do.

    • @bauke-LV426
      @bauke-LV426 4 года назад +2

      @@bikersedge wow I need all my focus on my riding. I would definitely crash! Oh and don't worry, your secret is safe with me :)

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +4

      Only on the climbs. On the DH it’s full focus, mixed with some Neil Diamond, Kanye and Wolfmother.

    • @tonykasunic1
      @tonykasunic1 3 года назад

      @@bikersedge audiobook on climbs, specifically meditation book, and then van halen on the downs

  • @JJMilk
    @JJMilk 4 года назад

    Mojo RULES!!

  • @qualm43
    @qualm43 4 года назад +1

    The aesthetics of the Santa Cruz wins this dual all by itself.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +1

      I think they both look really good.

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM 3 года назад

      @@bikersedge I prefer the one made in Santa Cruz. 😉

  • @1powerfit
    @1powerfit 3 года назад

    TO RIP OR NOT TO RIP !!!!

  • @lvirag8401
    @lvirag8401 4 года назад

    i always hate when people do this...
    i really don't be that girl, but...
    transition scout?? how does the scout compare? prob much more like a better and better-looking 5010 than the bird...

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 года назад +2

      I haven't been able to ride the Scout yet. Based on all the stats, I would guess it rides more like the Bronson and SB140 than either of these bikes.

  • @apophispnw5717
    @apophispnw5717 3 года назад

    Why so god damned much money???

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 года назад

      Very good question. Although bike technology is pretty impressive today.

  • @LightUpNancy
    @LightUpNancy 3 года назад

    Great review!