Battle of the Ibis Trail Bikes // Ripley vs Mojo 4
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2020 Ibis Mojo 4 27.5" trail bike vs the Ibis Ripley 29er
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I bought one and have used it all season. I needed to do some sewing repair but it is used almost everyday.
I love how secure it is.
damn a whoppin 25 huh
I've been riding 27.5 for years, and just bought a new 27.5 bike three weeks ago. I'm sure I'd get used to the 29 wheels if I committed to buying one, however, I've demoed the Ripley, the Following and Offering, Hightower, etc (modern 29" bikes) and the key for me is fun, just like you said. I still feel more confident on the smaller wheels and love the nimbleness and responsiveness on the trail. I'm an outlier in my group though. I'm 6'1" and ride L/XL depending on brand. I love big days in the saddle (biggest ride this season was 60 miles and 8k ft of climbing) and feel like the smaller wheels are actually less cumbersome for me to handle when I get tired, even if they are, on paper, more efficient. To each their own though! Ride what you like. I think the industry will continue to produce 27.5 bikes, especially after seeing the new Mojo and 5010 launches.
Thanks for weighing in! Yeah, 27.5 certainly isn't dead but there has been such a wide acceptance to 29 in the last 5 years. Like you, I really enjoy the nimble, less cumbersome feel of the slightly smaller wheel... tires weigh less too🤘😁
@ Kyle Marmesh
Me too man. I’m on a 17’ transition scout, I demoed the Ripley and it’s nice and all but it didn’t have the agility of my scout. I’m seriously considering the mojo4 . And I’m a large framed 5’11 man.
Jay, you really are the best reviewer in all of youtube, very honest, and articulate in all your reviews, love it.
Thank you!
Agree
Happy owner of Ripley V4 here. I did put 140mm and Dpx2, ultimate machine 😁
I’m 6’ 2 210 lbs and I ride in Boise Idaho on a Mojo 3. I have been waiting for your review of the Mojo 4, for ever. Fun is the word of the day, and it is totally the 27.5 tires and short stays! Gotta get the 3 on KSL, so I can get 4. Thanks!
27.5 leans easier because there is less gyroscopic force keeping it up. That's my input! Great review, as ALWAYS.
Thanks!
I prefer 27.5. Used to have 29. The smaller wheels are more fun. I’m told they’re slightly slower but my times have improved marginally and it’s more nimble and whippy feel. 5’10” 186 lbs.
Well just when I thought I could not love the Ibis bikes any more you come out with this video . Man Ibis bikes just ROCK and by the way the 27.5 bike is the 2 Stroke of the bicycle world, you heard it here first . ( meaning they are just a lot more fun to ride than a 29er ) .
Man I’m still rockin’ my 2019 Bronson V3 (27.5) and love it. It’s a bit much for my local trails, but is perfect for the trails at my house out in the Appalachian gnar. I keep thinking about getting a short travel 29er for local trails, but everytime I demo em I’m kinda disappointed- I can’t really explain it but they just don’t beg me to goof around and play on em like 27.5s do. I’ve never been a roadie and don’t even consider myself a cyclist, I’m a mountain biker and that’s it. So maybe that’s it, I just still have too much bmx from my youth in me. Lol. Now I’m thinking and aggressive hardtail 27.5 for home trails, like the Stylus.
Still love my 2019 Santa Cruz 5010. 27.5 wheels. It’s crazy how swapping tires make so much of a difference on the trails.
Totally. Tires make a huge difference and can completely change the way a bike feels.
What tires do you like running on your 5010? I just got one and front and rear minion DHR II’s just feel kinda sluggish
DD Aggressor in the rear and dhf 3C/exo in the front. I’m in Southern California and that works for me .
I’m gonna try some versus trail casing tires next
FUN is relative term. For me 29 is best wheel size.
IMO most important for good bike is geo.
I have rode 26 for years, tried 27.5 (27 actually ) and 29 is the best for me. I'm not very tall (186cm), but modern 29ers are awesome. In every aspect of riding I like them, climbing, descending, cornering, go over things...
But to each his own.
Best wheel size comparison i've seen. Matches my experience.
Plus and cons to both.
Current fashion/trends are crazy. few years ago 90% wouldn't be seen dead on a 29er, Now its the cool trend that 90% buy!!
This video shows the exact differences. Thats the physics of it. Doesn't change with the year. What was true in 2018 is true in 2022 and will be true in ten years time. Physics.
I think you nailed it when you said you felt like a better rider on the M4. Coming off a V1 Ripmo, I always felt like I was a little too high off the ground on super techy stuff which made me a little hesitant at times (like horsethief bench drop in). I set up my M4 mullet style, which equalized many of the differences between the Ripley and the M4. It's an amazing bike and only on the most chunkiest stuff do I wish I still had the Ripmo.
Killer. I'm on a mullet right now too.... 2021 Rocky Mountain Altitude 🤘
Greg, what travel fork are you on?
@@catg9196 130
I ride exactly the same Ripley with a similar setup for almost a year and I put like 2500 miles on it. Longest trip was 56 miles with nearly 2000 vertical yards. And it can do longer trips, next year I’ll do the alpine crossing. Damn this is a good ride. These carbon rims accelerate so quick and the coding of the kashima suspension is nuts!!!! But it‘s dangerous cause it leads you to do stupid things so it threw me over a couple of times. I wasn’t able to ride all the time couse of spraining. And I still hated just to stay away from the bike. So much fun and I‘m 39 y (I should have known better but can’t stop it). you just want to be on that bike. This is really something.
Nice, good to hear. The Ripley is excellent!
@@mtbyumyum I put some bigger breaks on the front wheel. For me this was really an upside. How about the bigger suspension you put on your fork is it worth a try? I was thinking about it in the first place but hence didn’t do it. I run the Ardent which is a good compromise for me but sometimes I want to be faster. Any suggestions about a fast tire combination which allows you to descent as well?
I have a 27.5 Yt Jeffsy and I absolutely love it. Definitely not as fast up or down as the 29, but I think more fun. 27.5 wheels, great spec, 160mm of travel, and sub 30 lbs on an XL. Highly recommend for a 27.5 bike
Sounds awesome. 160mm 27.5 bikes are so fun!!
@@mtbyumyum sure is, all bikes are great!
I bought an Ibis Ripley!! I love it!! Fantastic bike for me!! Thanks for your channel! I appreciated your reviews and information!! You are awesome! Gratitude!
Bought the Mojo 4 last week for one reason: Fun. That’s why I ride!
Rad! Enjoy!
@Taylor
You had a chance to test ride by chance? Or your research led you to Mojo?
Based on your recommendation I'm planning on picking up a Ripley in the next couple of months. Looking for a Corner Canyon Slayer and Strava crown maker, hoping this bike will make up for a less than stellar physical performance on my part. 😉
Nice. Call chris at Salt Cycles! 801-943-8502
I got a Ripley about 2 months ago and LOVE it
Both bikes aresick but the mojos front triangle is the better looking of the two, stunning bike that Mojo hey...
Yeah I was always bummed they didn’t add the cross member the Mojo has on Ripley and Ripmo. Looks way better. Ripley and Ripmo are kinda fugly without it.
Please make a review on an EVIL FOLLOWING V3!!!
Mabe I’m weird, but I ride slowish tight new England tech gnar, and I like the smaller wheels. For the agility and acceleration, even if my rollover isn’t as good . And launching off all the little features
Yeah, think I'll spend more time on the smaller wheels in 2021 🤘🤙
Finally! Love this review! I'm one of those guys shopping a Ripley V4 vs a Mojo 4 so I'm really glad you did this review (and the Ripmo vs Ripley review), I'm coming from a 2015 Giant Anthem SX with 27.5 wheels really like the pop/fun factor, but I am in need of a new bike and the 29 wheels are tempting... .arrgghhh it's too hard to decide yet :)
Yeah, I'd say pick a wheel size and don't look back! Both are very good!
Or get both🤑
I have a couple 29ers (TB4 & Yeti 5.5) and a Spot Rollik (27.5). I definitely have more fun on the Rollik. I ride Large sizes on all - 5’10” 😎.
Sb5.5 such a rad bike!
@@mtbyumyum For sure. Probably similar to your Switchbade - can handle anything. That said, Rollik is more fun to ride but can get hung up occasionally.
Interesting comparison. Great review as always! I had similar thoughts when I compared a Bronson to the tallboy and hightower. It’s so rocky rooty where I ride that I feel I need that 29er rollover if I am going to only have one bike. If i were to go 27.5 I would provably go long like an hd5 or altitude.
Yeah, if I only owned one bike at a time it would be a 29er... it's undeniable, the 29er has some real benefits. After spending over a month on this Mojo 4, I picked up the new Rocky Mountain Altitude. 160mm 27.5 rear with a 160mm 29er front. It's been an absolute blast!!
Great stuff - thanks for doing this. One thing I noticed is that the riding you did looks mostly fast and flowy, but not super technical - no big rocky descents, etc. For that kind of riding, I can see how a 27.5" bike is better, more nimble, etc. But for the really gnarly rocky stuff, I think that's where the 29'er shines. So it comes down to the kind of riding you mostly do, knowing that whatever bike you choose may not work as well on other trails. The good news is that all these bikes are so awesome, there's really no bad choice. Thanks again!
Yeah, good point. I mentioned in the video, the M4 would get hung up in more technical terrain. The benefits of the 29er are obvious but for some, the smaller wheel is more fun, playful and easy to move around. As you mentioned, comes down to the terrain you ride, riding style and expectations. Thanks!
I tried the Speshy EPIC EVO yesterday. I must say.... it is really quite close to the Ripley. It is not as poppy as the Ripley but on higher speeds, the bike is definitely more stable even though the fork has a smidge less travel. Would be great if you can get one for a comparison. EPIC EVO is not as fun though but fast AF with its featherweight and stability.
Nice, thanks. Excited to try the epic evo🤘
Pivot Switchblade vs Revel Rascal vs Ibis Mojo 4? With regards to the all-important FUN factor?
P/S - You're making it really hard for me to lock in a do-it-all bike, with the awesome bikes you keep bringing onto your channel :-P
I think there is an argument to own multiple bikes still. There is no such thing as a quiver killer, there are always compromises to be made. I love my Tallboy 3 for the majority of my riding but would still like to own a more enduro focused bike for trips to the Alps where uplifts are common
Completely agree. Everything is a compromise... N+1
I’m a big fanboy of short travel 29ers for everyday trail riding. I do really enjoy long travel 27.5 bikes for bike parks. They are a bit easier to maneuver compared to long travel 29ers.
Well said! Totally agree!
I learnt to ride whit one of the first MTB in Italy in the '80 whit a "26 if the mojo klimb very well I have two top Xc bike one old '26 and a '29 whit new geometry.
Hey Jason, what was the weight of each bike?
Again, I really like your comparison videos. I have not ridden the mojo 4 but between my sb130 and sb140 I agree the 27.5 way easier to jump and ride really gnarly stuff but the sb130 is a way better climber and in most cases is faster. You need a 27.5 bike in your quiver.
Yeah, I think I do... thanks!
Re the Hip pack. I purchased one on your recommendation and it is comfortable and practical however the zips are junk.
I have only used my hip pack no more then 10 times ( I use an Ergon back pack) and the zip on the main compartment fell off.
I can still use the pack but can’t secure any valuables like car keys or wallet etc.
For shorter rides the hip pack is great. I’m going to look at other brands now and see if I can get something that’s better made.
Reach out to them and let them know you had problems w the zipper...I'm sure they'll take care of you!
About to buy a new bike. Curious if you rode the Exie and a specialized epic evo? Can't decide between the two. Thoughts?
I put more the 1,000 miles on my Exie last year. Freaking love that bike. Just built another one for this season. Call Chris at Salt and see what he can do for you. 801-943-8502 don’t waist your time w the epic😆
I might be one of the few, but I went back to my old Ibis HD3 and sold my yeti SB130. Just preferred the older geo and smaller wheels. I haven’t tried down sizing with the new geo with smaller wheels though..
The sb130 is particularly polarizing... very progressive geo
Hi Jason. Thanks for the comparison. It's all about fun for me so I prefer the smaller wheels, although I'd love to have a 29er to complement it. Btw, were you running 2.6 on both bikes?
2.4-2.5 tires on both
Would definitely like to hear your thoughts on the new 2021 ripmo with the dvo suspension
I have that set up right now in the rear shock. Not sure if I have done a video on it but did one comparing it to the Hightower. I would say the DVO topaz is a great option and tuning it to your preference is super easy. It's makes the Ripmo a super bike in my view. Right now, I think its one of the best bikes available.
I want to see the sb130lr review so bad!
Next week. I already edited it so it ready to go, next in line👍🤙
Does the hd5 climb like this mojo 4 or close?
Thanks in advance and as usual
great review J!
Thats one of the things I loved about the hd5, climbs great. Maybe not as efficient as the mojo4 but close👍
I have a mojo 3 and HD4. I'd say the HD4 is a much more comfortable climber...and possibility a better technical climber. The steeper seat tube angle is amazing. But the HD4 is a way more stable descender. Yumyum do you have super technical climbing? I haven't spent much time on 29ers and wonder if that is why you prefer the climbing attributes of the 29...
BTW is there any chance to test Trek Fuel EX vs Ibis Ripley?
Thanks in advance.
I'm just wondering what is your thought about Evil Following ? Following is very similar to your Ibis Ripley and I just wanted to know your personal opinion about it.
Man. I'm on the fence so much with the 27.5 bike. I just sold my Pivot Mach 4 Carbon because it felt super twitchy and was easily knocked off course. Definitely fun just messing around boosting but the 27.5 wheels will bounce you off trail features more violently. More feedback is what people want I guess. I also went head to head with the Santa Cruz Megatower and Noman. I 100% preferred the Megatower for tech and jumps feel great. The nomad did jump a bit better and was tighter turning as expected. I guess I prefer the stability and swoop of the bigger wheels. Currently looking at the ripley because it does not seem like a huge 29er. I'm basically the exact same height and build as you. The new Pivot Mach 4 also feels more compact but doesn't have as much travel as I want. I wonder how the tallboy compares to ripley? Thanks for all the awesome reviews although I'm not sure if it helps the bike madness or fuels it!!
Yeah dude. Coming from the Mach4, the Ripley will be a blast... much better geo too!
@@mtbyumyum Literally ordering it now.
Nice! Use my link to Competitive Cyclist 🤘🙏
@@mtbyumyum I used the link but then talked to a rep because I was shocked anything was even in stock. I did mention to him that I used your link so hopefully the do right by you. I will follow up tomorrow.
I like 27.5 and I started out on 29er I only run my 29 on xc rides
Nice!
@@mtbyumyum even on my pivot 429 I love running the 27.5+ wheel it’s more funnerer! Hahaha
3:02 Very interesting observations. According to Fox, isn't the Grip 2 damper technically a downgrade on the Fit4? Are there certain trail scenarios when both shine? Maybe for a later vid...
The Fit4 is lighter, but the Grip2 has (in my opinion) a better trail-feel. If you want a relatively "XC-Stiff" in sus-feel, the FIT is for you.
I would take the grip or grip2 damper over the fit4 every time. Smoother, better small bump
How do you think the Mojo 4 would ride with a 35mm chassis fork at 150mm travel?
I run the mojo With 150 pike ultimate : no worries
Really enjoy your videos, very informative. Are you now a full-time reviewer or do you have a job too?
Not even close.... sadly, RUclips doesn't pay hardly anything. This is just a hobby for me. Wish I had more time to produce better content more frequently.
@@mtbyumyum Then your days must be very long. Been following you since you were riding the R.Mountain. Thanks for all the advice/info.
I had the ripmo and enjoyed it but went to the bronson. I do miss the 29er wheels from time to time
Why did you change your ripmo?
I demo one last weekend and it was great but I also own a Santa Cruz tallboy (I know 2 different bikes) but I do feel that Santa Cruz are more comfortable bikes. What influenced your decision?
My other option was to get a ripley with a 140 mm fork but my hands were hurting after the ride I don’t kw if it was the body position due to its geometry. The tallboy has very similar geometry than the ripely though, but idk.
Any thoughts MTB yum yum??
Great review by the way! I also looked into the mojo before. But not too sure about 27.5 wheels, my trails and chunky, rocky and crazy here in NJ
Let’s see a Pivot 429 trail and Switchblade head to head comp!
Will have to wait till next year... there might be a new generation t429 at that point
I’m 5’8” also and ride a ‘16 trance adv. 1 and my regular ride bro is 6’0 on a ripmo and after I rode his it felt a little faster but it just seems like I need extra lung capacity to keep a regular pace on New England style trails. I think if I lived in the west I’d probably ride a 29er
How does the fun factor compare between M4 and the Rascal? Also, I recently heard from someone who used to own the Ripley and switched to the new Stumpy because it climbs as well but is more stable on the decents.
Id be interested to see how the new Stumpjumper is. Doubt it clims as well as the Ripley
Being an extremelly short dude at just over 5ft tall i opted for the mojo v4 and the price would have been the same for a ripley af!
Good call!!
How does that Mojo climb compared to that Pivot you have? Great review Jason.
If you were on a boat with the IBIS and your partner, and you had one choice, who would you save?
I’m 5’0 tall and a new rider. I rode the Ripley once, and I initially felt the bike was way too big, but once i got on a trail i couldn’t believe how easily it took me over roots and rocks. But it still felt big to me, like I was riding on top of it instead of as a part of it, if that makes sense. Do you think that given my size the 27.5 wheels would be a better fit” I’m a scardy-cat when it comes to mountain biking, and I’m looking for something that gives me the most confidence on the trails - i want to be less afraid.
I went with the mojo v4. The price was the same as a ripley af and 27.5 is perfect for screwing around on jumps and what not.
Hey Mr Yum, What happened to riding the bikes? I want to see you ride as you review, anyone can sit and talk. Bike mag stands and talks but I suvscribed for the riding reviews
Thanks for the feedback. You are not the only person that has said this in the past few videos... plan is to get back to the original way of reviewing next season. Thanks!
@@mtbyumyum Fantastic! I've been missing it.
Have you done the 140mm fork upgrade on your Ripley? *As you mentioned in your previous video* Do you feel the difference? Thanks and appreciate your inputs.
Yes I did, well worth it in my experience. Good luck!
You reviewed the Switchblade and said you purchased one in a video recently how does the Mojo 4 compare to the Switchblade in climbing and the fun factor. I know they are in a different travel category but you said how good the Switchblade was at climbing so curious how they compare. Thanks
They're just very different. The M4 feels much more nimble and maneuverable. The switchblade is more capable in basically every situation and would make for a better trail bike for most people... but the M4 is very easy to ride, lighter weight and more poppy and fun... very easy to move around.
Hi , test stumpjumper evo Thank's
29ers are dull and characterless (save for the Evil Following MB). Anyway, 27.5ers are fun, spunky, spicy, and maneuverable. I take my 27.5 plus bike EVERYWHERE, including long rides lasting 4-5 hours. I have no desire to ride 29ers.
@Mountain Biker which 27.5plus bike do you own?
@@diorite81 Yeti SB5+
Mojo is more fun, more confidence inspiring - that's win.
Lunch Ride review? Coming soon maybe?
Next week
I kicked and screamed all the way, but 29ers won out. 2 levos and a 2021 stumpy evo, if it ever shows up. Spare bike for sons is 27.5. I am 6 foot 1.
Yep. I think most people who own one bike at a time benefit from going 29
YumYum can you do a review on Mojo 4 converted to a mullet bike? 29 front wheel and 29 fork with 130mm travel.
I've got a video coming on my Altitude as a mullet... after over 100 miles, it's been a lot of fun!
What enve rims are you using now on your Ripley?
Why not mullet the Mojo 4 and let us know? :) :) :)
I did, and it's amazing!
I recently mulleted the 2021 Rocky Mountain Altitude 🤘🤙 it's so sick!
Great video. Sounds like if the Ripley had 27.5 wheels. Then it would ride almost the same as the Mojo based on what you said.
Yeah, pretty close.... mojo 4 feels slightly more progressive in the rear... would be fun to ride that bike w a fox 36
I want an Ibis fleet ,got no more organs left but.
for someone that only can get 1 bike...and a bike that does a bit of everything...Ripley?
My commencal Tr es a weapon amigo paz brother ✌🏻
It seems like the person buying just needs to decide if they want 29 or 27.5 🤷♂️ Both bikes RIP 🤘
Bingo🤘🤙
Have any bikes to sell?.
Thought you sold your Ripley. I love mine
This was filmed back in September 🤙
@@mtbyumyum you sold the Ripley? Nooooooo!
Haha it's been 2 seasons now... time to start looking around for something different for next season. Who knows, might end up back on a Ripley 😆🤙
@@mtbyumyum in other words you're buying a Spur! You're going to miss the Ripley me thinks.
Not buying a Spur...
I hope your switchblade didn't hear you talking up your Ripley like that...its not gonna like it...lol
haha
Would you like to sell your Ibis Mojo 4?
This was a long term demo bike from Salt Cycles in Sandy Utah...