What kind of things were being built in Africa before European colonisation?
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- We are often told of the wonders of sub-Saharan Africa before the arrival of white explorers. Great Zimbabwe is sometimes cited as a good example of an ancient civilisation; a magnificent stone-built city. This is nonsense.
The old expression about giving a European a pile of stones and he will build a house, give an african a house and he will give you a pile of stones, is so true.
Similar one about fishing. Teach a man to fish and you'll feed him for life. Teach an African to fish and he'll trade his rod for a fish.
@@adelwulf8864 hahaha 😂
So true
Aborigine's have been around in Australia for over 40,000 years and in that time they discovered that if you blow into a hollow piece of wood it makes a monotonous sound and a stick for throwing at stuff. 40,000 years.
This can be observed quite reliably in real-time, if you fancy going into an area blacks have taken over. You'll be stunned at how quickly the place runs down.
@@adelwulf8864 And then, when he has eaten the fish and has nothing, he will say his rod was stolen by the person who taught him to fish and demand reparations.
Met Police is slowly turning into Gestapo.
You mean KGB. Gestapo were right-wing. There’s an enormous difference. Or are you one of those who shout “fascist” at everything bad going on despite it having the nature of fascism’s exact opposite?
@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 Nazi Germany was culturally right-wing but economically left-wing.
Gestapo KGB , one concentration camps, other gulags
Same as same as.
@@davidsharpe7869 Internment camps where they were given luxuries and amenities until they could be deported to Madagascar per the actual official plans stated in official SS documentation. 10 million documents have been analysed and nothing to the contrary can be gleamed from the official sources despite the mainstream modern *narrative…* But ‘shhhhh’ cuz ‘ZOSE EEFIL GERMANS!’
@@petersteenkamp They weren’t economically left so to speak-they formed a synthetic economic policy based on science and adherence to what they referred to as “The Life-Laws”. But yeah, that’s precisely my point; they were culturally right-wing. Preserving our culture get’s you attacked by our state today, whereas trying to preserve the culture would get you promoted by the NS state. Opposites. The Soviets were deconstructing the nationhood of the Slavic peoples and using pretty much the same formula our own Bolshy overlords are doing to us here. Same people behind it as well…
I've said before on another platform about ten years ago that if it wasn't for slavery and colonisation there would be no such thing as an educated black African. You can imagine how that was received.
Sadly, all too true.
Omg!!!! I'm laughing and can't wait to say that to the next person who calls a white person a colonizer!
I can't. How did you fare?
As an educated blaque man who happens to be lucky enough to have received some whyte genes I can say without reservation that without the whyte man Africa would have changed very little over the last 1000 years.
Let me guess how many comments were articulated eloquently???
Those Black Panther films have given them delusional aspirations
Wakanda forever!!!
Wakandaleeza
Wankanda!
The most ironic and nasty film ever made....
What do you mean? Wakanda is Fantasy? No way!!! I'm sure it once existed in Iceland... ;)
Never the wheel. Never a building with a second story. Never an enlightened appreciation of the Rights of Man.
Ah,you forget that great man Idi Amen AKA The Last King of Scotland.After murdering thousands of his own people I've been a great admirer.
You can't build a second story on a dung hut 😂😂😂😂
To invent a second story they'd first have to invent stairs.
Spot on my good man.
And look where our 'rights of man' have got us. What will happen to these people once our wheels and buildings are in the hands of those from East of the Caucases, I know not. Perhaps we will make a last heroic effort to save... *them* ?
I'm sure the BBC will try to convince us they helped design and build the great wall of China.
'Helped' build it? The BBC will say it was conceived, designed and built in its entirety by black people, just like Stone Henge and most of our medieval castles centuries later!
Or that the Ming Dynasty were actually all black... 😂
Then after stonhenging England they flew to the Netherlands and drained the water before going to Egip and building a toblerone and inventing peanut butter and the internet.
By the time they got to Africa they were just too knackered to do anything apart from slap some mud and poo on some sticks.
And they regularly enslaved one another...
and ate one another
@@areyouusingthatsquatrack8256 They still do
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Well in 2002-2003, what's known as the Effacer le tableau occurred during during the Second Congo War.
I can still see the hundreds of thousands of worthy people on the streets of London protesting the death of 60,000 Pygmy civilians at the hands of the Movement for the Liberation of the Congo. Oh....wait a moment....
They regularly ate one another too.. as well as Misionaries (variety is the spice of life)
No no no, you've got it all wrong, so I'll explain it to you. Slavery was invented by white males, and it has only ever existed in two countries, the UK and the USA. Slavery has never existed in any other countries apart from the two mentioned, and it will never exist in any other countries now that it is finally definitely over in the UK and USA, which are the only two countries that it has ever existed in anyway. Honestly, trust me, I went to university you see, so I'm obviously very intelligent.
I was recently watching some vintage UK TV shows originally broadcast in the 1950s and 1960s (as is my wont). One of the things noticeable, if all this current diversity is on your mind as you watch these old shows, is how few non-white faces you see in each programme, if any at all - whether it be a drama, quiz show, panel game, kids' show, documentary, news, vox pop, comedy, advertisements, etc. It's yet another cultural example of how the current obsession with pretending the UK has been multicultural for decades (if not centuries - see Bridgerton) is simply unsupported. One was episodes of the (superb) TV series Callan, a great cold war espionage drama starring Edward Woodward, set largely in the demonstrably 99% monocolour London of the 1960s (and not just because it was filmed in black & white). The one exception to this that comes to mind is Top of the Pops, that started in 1964, where famous black singers and groups (like Chuck Berry, Louis Armstrong, Jimi Hendrix, Aretha Franklin, and Little Richard) regularly appeared alongside mostly white artists, but back then they were visitors from abroad, mostly America, and with very few exceptions not from the UK. The colour of a person's skin doesn't bother me one way or the other, but people telling obvious porkies about what people did or didn't do in history does. Like a drunken man loudly gatecrashing a party, it just embarrasses everyone...
That's because they are revising history for the Great Replacement (which requires the subjugation and erasure of white people from Western lands). The new generation isn't smart enough to know the difference or anything about the past, heck most of them think Chemtrials is the natural look of the sky not Fluffy clouds and flocks of many birds.
I, for my sins, watch "Pointless" in the early evenings. Eight contestants start and is very rare there is a full house who share my demographic.
Speaking of 'Callan': When arranging the show's casting, the producer said to the casting director: 'Who do you think should play Callan? The casting director replied: 'I wonder if Edward Woodward would?' (You have to say this out loud.)
Where do you watch these great vintage shows? My dad would love to watch some of that old stuff
Black history Month again. And again
The reason we heard nothing of such places until 20 years ago because they hadn’t been invented then.
Exactly. Most of these "discoveries" are modern fakes.
I just wonder, if by chance, that they uncovered any ancient wheels when excavating this wonderful old African city?
They built mud huts. They still do build mud huts.
Mud Rock is classic 70s vinyl.
Have ever been to any African country?
Actually many now use scrap materials to build squatter camps. They even erect these inside hijacked buildings in the Johannesburg CBD. When they catch alight many die. They also like to build their squatter camps in flood plains and then complain when the rains come and sweep them away.
"Diversity built Britain" on my 50p. If that were true cities would dissolve every time it rains.
Good thought! Noted.
Diversity did build Britain, the perfect mixture of celts vikings Norman's Anglo saxons etc, funny though that they are all indigenous europeans(white)
It ought to read, 'Unity Built Britain', but they can't do that, as it would include those nasty white people.
The "diversity" they refer to is the Roman/Anglo-Saxon/Norman diversity...
An African American "historian" some 20 odd years ago, looking at a few random stones, close to each other in Zimbabwe: "I'd like to imagine this is the remains of a university....." ..... and no doubt that is how they are now described.....🤦🤷
I'll bet those same stones are now being "Re-imagined" as the walls of a particle-collider.
@@sawneyhasbean 😂😂😂
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What historian said that??
DARN BRITISH COLONIALISM INTERRUPTED THE PROGRESS OF THOSE POOR BUDDING ENGINEERS
I've inherited a few books printed in the early 1900s. Even then it had photos of black africans half naked, spears in hand, bones through noses, in front of mud huts with their witch doctor.
Don't you mean 1990s?
@@user-yz6lb5pt8h not the books I've got. But I am not doubting they exist from 1990s too.
Make sure you preserve them and pass them on. We will use them as evidence when we take our lands back.
@@Occident. I intend to. Being pre-ww2 they shine a different attitude towards Germany and its 1930s leader. And they also have many historic facts about culture and traditions of the UK.
One that I love reading about in one book is the drunkard barrel. Apparently, in one area of the UK, when a person had got a bit rowdy or anti-social due to alcohol, they would strip the persons clothes and place a wooden barrel over them which had two holes for the arms to poke out. The person would then be paraded through the streets to shame them.
Which doctor would you like to see?
Yes.
Truth, for some, is painful.
Colonist: There's a stone in my shoe.
Native: There are stones in my foot.
What kind of things were being built in Africa before European colonisation? Wattle huts with dung floors, wattle fences, piles of stones- thats pretty much it.
Yes..laboriously dragging stones about..waiting for someone to invent the wheel.
@@sawneyhasbean The wheel, the pulley, levers, carpentry, masonry..... Although to give credit, they did come up with smelting and basic smithing on their own.
They made many innovations in cannibalism.
This is unfair Elon musk is south Africa
Errrn nope they used wood, coral rag, stone, fired brick, mudbrick, sandstone, adobe and other materials.
Aboriginals in Australia before Captain Cook discovered it still hadn’t got round to inventing the wheel !
They were still running around in animal skins and hunting with sticks & stones - equivalent to the Stone Age, still not reached the Iron Age
Christ , they LOOK like cavemen.
And yet Captain Cook called them the happiest people he had ever seen! (And remember, this was after he had already visited Tahiti!!)
@@artawhirler Wouldn't *you* be happy to meet 'aliens' who showed you that you no longer needed to run around in the hot sun wearing animal skins hunting goannas with sticks and stones?
😮is there much metal to be mined in Australia tho?!
Most of the Southern hemisphere never reached the Iron age, because they didnt have to, warm weather and an endless reserve of food, small isolated populations dont need to invent anything as they can literaly live off the land.
I had a friend who did some charity work in Africa & I'll never forget a story she shared....A widow & her baby lived at the bottom of a small hill which the locals used as outdoor ablutions & she was complaining of the stools etc finding their way down the hill & outside her door making her concerned for her & her baby's health.....an offer to build her a small dwelling 2 or 3 hundred yards away was met with a glassy eyed look & continued complaints about the waste...a suggestion to help her build a small trench between her 'house' & the hill was met with the same blank expression.
Though she didn't explicitly state it I believe my volunteer friend left that continent believing it's people just couldn't be helped
Yep, exactly. They can't be.
They have no concept of past or future. They live only in the present like one of the more dim witted animals.
A teacher friend of mine was overjoyed that she had been accepted for the VSO in the 1970s. She went off to Nigeria...and had to buy herself out very early because she just couldn't stand it...
I've unfortunately encountered some of that demographic here in Australia, they are unbelievably and frustratingly dim, you quite often just get a blank stare from them as their eyes glaze over at the simplest of things..
Imarn Ayton, Dr Schola, and Narrinder are all examples of stupid!
Nothing much has changed there either among natives.
Civilisation has never moved on and never would without outside help.
It becomes even more incredible when you think that human beings have been living in Africa since homosapiens evolved. It’s not as if they didn’t have time to come up with civilisation.
They even have instructions now, they're free to copy, they can't
Those darned homo erectus genes...
Didn’t have Neanderthal genes though, did they!
Ancient Egypt
@@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 lol 🙄 bless him
Mr Webb, don't ever stop.
Telling lies
@ashli
Yet here you are--Again!!
Now where is your list of 45+ bame people killed by English people,in England,to 'match' my list of English people,killed in England,by members of the bame community???
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@@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108Hello, again.
I looked very hard for your links and references again, dear, and can't seem to find them.
Remember to include them in your comments, or else we might mistake you for a dreary and tiresome troll.....
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From all of our history books absolutely nothing was invented. The history books show poorly made mud huts with straw on top leaning over.
Our neighbor has a master in African history and inventions. When asked about inventions he stated he was unaware of any 😳🤔😁🤣
Thank you again for sharing your excellent videos. God bless you and your beautiful country 🙏
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I dare say that their inventions are more scarce than hen's teeth.
Apart from the lightbulb, the computer and numerous other claims!!
I'll let our neighbor know that 😁🤣🤣🤣 he must have forgotten or was asleep when they covered that part🤔. He's going for a doctorate in africian studies and inventions.
I dare not say how long he studies😁🤣
Our country is becoming less beautiful by the day.
If only Livingstone hadn’t found the blasted place 😢
The Arabs got there before him
He didn't discover them, he went to help stop Arab slavers, he has since been denounced as a racist ?
No but Livingston put it on the map the first European to set foot in the African interior.
Living stone - the irony.
Just like Christopher Columbus found America? 🤦🏾♂️
I find it odd that they are routinely describes as 'buildings' yet the towers are solid and the structure amounts to a set of dry stone walls, within which were mud huts.
"Great Zimbabwe is not well built: the stones were not selected and laid with consideration for their relative sizes; vertical joints often run continuously through three or more layers (they should be offset)... The space within the walls is very loosely filled." - And that quote is from the British Museum.
hey thirty to forty thousand years ago one fell over a hollowed log , noticed it made a noise and invented the drum , they have been taking a break ever since
You only have to look at first hand accounts of explorers that opened Africa up to realize how primative they were.I have read some wonderful books by our illustrious ancestors.
If it was'nt for us they'd still be eating each other!
They are still killing each other.
@@jeffmoore4153as if Europeans aren’t killing each other and never have. 🤪 will all of europes accomplishments mean anything if europe takes us to extinction? Just asking….
Could you mention a few of those books? I've taken to collecting books mentioned on various sites.
@@LKaramazovAs religion and tribalism faded, Europe got civilized. That wasn't until decades ago.
Logic ought to be witnessed in solitude.
@@LKaramazovWhat do you suggest?
They were the pioneers of the zero carbon civilisation which we still haven’t managed to replicate but are trying hard to
Yes, considerable and rapid progress is being made. Seems like it won't be long now until we Europeans catch up with them.
Zero carbon civilisation, or living in a mud hut?😂😂
Actually Sub Saharan Africa is one of the biggest producers of CO2 as they largely use wood fired stoves and fires, always have!
They did huge environmental damage by cutting down trees and burning them. We are now suffering the consequences and they owe us each at least one trillion dollars in reparations.
That’s actually a myth. They were, and still are, burning dung for energy.
In the US, They hadn’t evolved until the settlers arrived.
Australia same.
Only even more so!
Unlike the massive cities of the Aztec, Inca and Maya.
Just because native Americans hadn't evolved materially doesn't mean they hadn't evolved spiritually; they had no desire to reach for the same heights as the Europeans. Lastly those Europeans were not settlers, they were TERRORIST-INVADERS, as they sought no permission to share the land.
@@jeremyboughtono2 Who were actually helped by Westerns to kick off their civilization, but don't forget they still did human sacrifice, so that is keeping with their low-level mentality.
Dry stone walls, podcasts, you are a man of many talents Simon 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Go to his shorts on here, he's climbing a wall
I think you've overlooked the 'sharp stick', Simon - the much-lauded Super Weapon of Africa !
Versatile little number what?
Pointed stick actually
Shakeaspear!
They were very pointy sharp sticks.
“German” is actually Old Germanic for “spear-man”. Africa has absolutely nothing on our heritage.
Yet they still queued for welfare..
Best statement ever!
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I have been to the Gambia 3 times and it never ceases to disappoint me that when you venture outside of the holiday compounds there are streets of homes that are constructed from scrounging anything that is available to make something that resembles a house. But the Gambians have mobile phones and are dressed in football shirts and knee length shorts. There are open sewers that are concealed with anything that resembles a flat board. There is no rubbish left about as it is all reconstituted in some way. Their cars(taxis) give off black diesel smoke to the point of poisoning us too.
Why go three times if it’s so bad? Might as well stick to utopia Europe ay?
civilization takes years...not millions of dollars.
Do you ever watch the water aid adverts and it shows a poor girl walking 20 miles to the water hole and then have to carry it back daily and think,
"You live in a mud hut, just move the mud hut closer to the watering hole.
And what are the parents doing while the kids are out all day collecting water. Probably making more kids.
@@waynesidebottom8303 I suppose they need more water carriers for the future when that poor girl gets older and then married off,
"and by older I mean 10 years old.
Carrying water back home for 20 miles in the blazing sun would be more satisfying if a lid is used. This way no water is spilt or evaporated. I would not be surprised if the term "lid' now gets banned in progressive Californian schools.
These charities are scammers, give me money.
Perhaps boiling the water before drinking it would be advantageous
For such a sophisticated and cultured race they sure have regressed a great deal since coming to Europe and the USA.
Hope you don't mind but I'm going to plagarize your great comment.
I live 6 miles away from Canterbury Cathedral - built c.1077...
I suspect this comment will be deleted... as per usual, but i just wanted to say that I regularly travel across Continental Europe, where documentaries are still shown featuring Sub-Saharan Africa as it really was until the early 20th Century. Black and White and early Colour or Colorised films of African Peoples to all intents and purposes naked, living with animals in the most primitive conditions imaginable. What is interesting is that these images have been completely removed from our (UK) TV screens. With the abundance of archival material available to them, you will not find the BBC broadcasting anything but an ultra-modern, enlightened image of Africa, particularly Sub-Saharan Africa...
Around half of my comments are deleted , probably because they speak the truth.
Methinks most of the comments to this video will be terminated with extreme prejudice. 😀
Mud huts and bongos! Awooga!
And water supply 5 miles away 😅😅😅
Don't forget the busy slave traders at that time.
give them some credit they did invent crime afterall
They needed an upgrade from pointy sticks.@@edfost5734
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And gave birth to "the baby daddy"
We are so thankful for Simon.
I don’t know Simon, those termites in Africa built some pretty big mounds.
That’s no way to talk about Pygmies 🤷🏿♂️
There the bugs 🐛 the WEF wants us to eat instead of a steak and chips 🍟 😋 😊
My family had a small holding in the early eighties in North Cumbria and on weekends i helped with some of the dry stone walling,most of the stones i was told were part of the Roman wall it was interesting work and even today as i drive past most of it still stands.
Did any of the stones have any Black Africans initial s chiseled on them.done so to show how much wall they had built in a day so he would be paid per foot by Romans
Stonewalling can be traced back to the Bronze Age 3,500 years!
@@georgehetty7857 There are places in the Lake District that teach Dry stone walling it's usually near most camp sites many farmers welcome the help ! hikers and sheep are always knocking a few stones loose here and there.
@@JohnJohnson-vd2hp Fabulous, I live in Derbyshire so I’m no stranger to dry walls👍
Interestingly I follow a motorcycle explorer RUclips channel ‘Itchy Boots’ who is currently travelling down the West Coast of Africa. She has just crossed from the Central African Republic into the Democratic Republic Congo and, all through sub Saharan Africa so far, there has been no infrastructure outside of the large cities. Absolutely nothing, roads are impassable mud, no electricity, people living still in shanty huts scratching a basic living. Even countries considered wealthy such as Nigeria, there is no infrastructure outside of the cities. So it is clear that what you say is correct and hasn’t changed in many places even with the benefits of the modern world. The only people who seem to benefit is the small wealthy minority.
Wyte ppl stole all the wealth yall
Seen her too with Alosca lol
Hey news flash she travels to rural areas not the cities! 😂 you think what you’re seeing in a few views reflects an entire continent? Jesus you must be dense
And varying degrees of corruption with many of the officials she encounters.
She's very brave IMO.
It's an excellent channel.
I've widely travelled in Africa over the last 25 years.
If anything it has gotten worse in many of the cities. Nairobi used to be a pleasure to visit, now its little better than a township in Johannesburg. South Africa is lawless and dangerous, Lagos in Nigeria, (and the current capital Abuja) are virtually basket cases aside from some few central areas in the business districts.
This appears to be the case across much of the continent. Some exceptions but are teetering on a knife edge because of the systems of power and corruption threatening at any moment to reduce any progress to rubble again.
Some of the rural areas are actually pleasant in a sort of "safari" kind of way as long as you don't mind absolutely zero creature comforts.
It used to be that people went to Rhodesia to see the ruins of Zimbabwe.... Now people go to Zimbabwe to see the ruins of Rhodesia!
So where are the ruins of Rhodesia name a historical site
When I was a youth I helped an old man in Highlands of Scotland with a dry stone, he was in his '80s then..left me exhausted 😅😂..what a bloke..fine wall too 😮😊
I come from Australia which of course was colonised by the British in a competition with the French. The original inhabitants the Aboriginal peoples we are told have been living here fora very long time , much longer than the civilisation that colonised them had been in existence. The degree of Aboriginal technology could be best described also as neolithic, as for the 'invaders ' within not much more than a hundred years this country was exporting foodstuffs back to Europe. Yet now riding the current political trend it has become popular to denigrate the British development of Australia..
I love your videos about Subsaharran Africa, Mr. History Debunked!!!
Most ignorant racist would
You love BS I see
@admirekashiri9879 Could you elaborate further? I love them because he is taking on thr Hotepe and Culture Vultures. These people are insufferable and basically stealing world history for the sake of pathetic guilt for primitive cultures.
The whole community of intellectuals and people who actually matter are all laughing at them. Also by calling EGYPT the center of Afrocentricism it neglects their actual countries of origin who desperately need money from their tourism and donations like orphanages if they just see how poor and savage they live since the ending of colonialism.
@admirekashiri9879 I asked but could you elaborate? RUclips loves to delete my comments. HD is telling the truth and we need people to call out these liars. Yes I enjoy laughing at people who envy civilizations and look like fools.
@@bensantos3882He isn’t just attacking them he is attacking an entire continent by going the other extreme claiming BS which is debunked by actual evidence he ignores!
You only have to watch an episode of whicker world from the 60s to know what Africa was like... Mud huts n tribal fighting... Nothing changed really.
Isn’t that part of their complaint: when the Europeans divided Africa into countries, the Europeans didn’t take into account tribal lands… of course it has been over 60 years since `colonialism ended, and they could redefine their borders, to align with tribal lands, but that’s never going to happen-much easier to complain than do something
Our inner cities will end up looking like that within the next twenty years.
@@davidmclachlan6592 well at least we know how to build high stone walls to keep them in
Errrm nope you need to actually study and research to know.
@@admirekashiri9879No need to study. Just set foot in that shithole and everything will be proven.
I’ve noticed the tendency especially on soap opera tv, that whenever a black character is newly introduced we have to be reminded by other characters that the new character is either very attractive and or very smart! And that they are squeaky clean both physically and morally. It seems then also that we have to be continually reminded that Africans WERE a flourishing society throughout Africa with great cities, brilliant architecture etc etc! Well where did it all go? Was it wiped out with the dinosaurs? Just like all the black people that DOMINATED the UK throughout history! Where did they all go? And why is it given all these black people that were here inventing all the great things we take for granted today, why is it that we have to mark the “Wind Rush” as the great savvier of England and the arrival of black people to bless this land?!?
I’ve noticed similar. The whites are cast as the evil or submissive and the ethnics are portrayed as the forthright, intelligent and moral. I roll my eyes.
Moon Base Alpha, built by Africans in 1756. There, someone said it, so it must be true.
Would that be on the dark side of the moon? 😁
even further back we had fine castles and keeps and strongholds.
The upper class were living in the fine stone castles and buildings. The rest of us were living in wood, wattle & daub cottages. Stone castles didn’t get built in England until after the Norman conquest.
@@canuck3169finally someone who studies and isn’t bias.
@@canuck3169 The Romans built stone forts in Britain, and the Celts built stone fortifications and towers before them. The Anglo-Saxons built stone churches and cathedrals. Castles were invented in the Middle Ages.
@@Ario-yt8ou The comment I commented on said `fine castles & keeps & stronghold’ which all came after the Normans invasion. Are you referring to the Orkney Island buildings? They had fewer trees so, the use of stone makes sense. The stone burial chambers were not used for anything but the dead. What stone towers? The of stone declined after the Romans left, although the `dressed’ stone from their building works (such as Hadrians wall) was `repurposed’, the Saxons preferred building in wood, it was plentiful and easier to work with. Yes some church building were stone, but home and fortifications were not, and if you’ve seen the pre-Roman hill forts, they were earthen ramparts with wooden defence walls.
@@canuck3169 I was referring to the brochs, which date from the pre-roman iron age, c. 300 BC.
The anglo-saxons re-used and rebuilt some Roman forts and other stone fortifications.
Ah but you forget Simon, the great English Cathedrals were built by the many black builders who existed then.
Hey! What about the architects?
Of course! My mistake...
Using the logic that according to the narrative Black's have always ben in Britain in great numbers that means the guilt of slavery and colonization is partly their guilt as well as whitey?
Yes, we need to remember that "diversity built Britain" 😂🤡
Directed by our great black queen 🙄
And they've never really moved on!
A ‘second floor’ … what would be the point when they hadn’t invented stairs. 😂😂😂😂
I work in Africa and have been in 16 different countries, with a few exceptions such as Namibia and Benin , they are mostly tin n breeze block shitholes , I’ve seen houses made of pallets and tarp ! Lagos for example stinks of shit and petrol fumes , you can’t safely walk ( and often safely drive) in most places
Millions and millions and millions and millions and millions more to swarm in nothing to stop them!
Has Africa produced any models replicated the world over? I think the real test is not monuments that last a thousand years but systems copied by other civilizations.
Europe has done this: British parliamentary system, Napoleonic civil code, republican form of government, train networks, modern policing...
Copied??? That sounds like cultural appropriation. I thought that was bad?
I don’t think that any civilisation has sought to copy British cuisine! Although in places like Australia it might have taken 100 years to replace it with a Southern European, East Asian, Indigenous fusion.
This channel is such relief from the politcally (in)correct University of Oxford that lauds Black Africa and is ashamed of European culture.
We have a couple of them stone walls in Ireland but I’m fairly sure we don’t boast to the world about how great we are on account of them.
At around the time that Europeans contacted West, South and large parts of East of Africa had hardly progressed beyond the stone age in many places, copper age in larger cities and iron age in the most metropolitan of areas. And that's talking down on South American civilizations, which in a sense was stuck in the same paradigm metallurgy wise, yet so much further along in every way than Africa.
The Great Zimbabwe, motorway established in 1080, had car's made of stick's, without wheels and dragged by drivers. Who shouted beep beep as they passed each other. Support Black History Month.
spot on Simon.
Thank you!
You are welcome!@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb
Nope it isn’t just to lies debunked by history and archeological studies.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebbmud age🦧 stone age bronze age iron age atomic age
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebbmay I ask why you don’t include Nubians as black Africans? How you could have included the many temples and Pyramids and structures in Nubia would actually would have been well before European architecture?
Check out films from Africa in the early 1900s
They had flying cars didn't they, surely?
Sure. Just without wheels.
AFTER the flux capacitor, yes. All of which technology was carefully hidden at the arrival of European boats.
They built everything in the world and were flying around on jetpacks and hovercars... befoe duh eeeebull wite man came out caves and stoledid it all.
And alot of flying pigs
@@dogbert52I guess a flying car doesn't need wheels 😂
But what about the African Scholars in the States who constantly remind us that years ago "We Wuz Kangs" ?
They still have them in Africa
Kangs
The first multi storey building in Africa as constructed in Lagos Nigeria in 1971. It was opened in the April and within 3 weeks cracks started to appear in the facade. It was later discovered that the concrete pillars holding up the building had been replaced with chicken wire coated in animal dung. The original pillars has been taken by a local war lord to trade for Ammunition. The engineer in charge of the project was later found to be a 16 year old school boy named George Agdgwango who had no formal training in structural engineering. Over the ensuing years the remaining animal dung pillars were with stolen amd held hostage or consumed with water as traditional medicine. The last remaining pillar is on show in the British museum as a celebration of African engineering excellence.
👆 Is this true? I really hope it is, because it's funny as hell 😂
@@christiankreps5920 unfortunately it probably isn't too many of these stories have been cropping up with never a source.
A quick search of Lagos colonial buildings will show your statement to be false by over 100 years. For example, the Cathedral Church of Christ is still standing high and tall. Might have been a good few high rise office towers, hotels, hospitals in Jo-Burg in 1971, which I think is somewhere in Africa. Perhaps you should clarify what you mean.
@@I_hate_Vegemite yeah but you had to Google it because sounds like it probably happened 😄
@@randomcamerajunk6977 OK, I’ll accept the first multi story building in Lagos built by an African construction team with African project management, African civil engineering, and potentially even African architects. I have no doubt it fell apart as suggested.
Plenty prior big towers in Africa built by African construction teams but with white project management, white civil engineering and white architecture.
Poorly researched video Simon. Clearly you have never heard of Wakanda, the country rich in the miraculous resource of Vibranium which enabled the Wakandans to develop Nano tech leagues ahead
Wankanda foreverrrr.
Wakanda nonsense is that??
I did enjoy that documentary, the "African Queen," I must say. Bogart and Hepburn were marvellous.
I remember the old `survival` programmes-need i say more.
I've heard that Africa's recent inventions are also seen in European museums.
How to say the stone work on the pyramids is much better and over 2000 years earlier. What a difference having a desert in between makes.
The Egyptians who built that are racially and ethnically different than those in the sub-saharan region which is what Simon is talking about
The Black African architects and engineers that built Salisbury Cathedral certainly knew their stuff . Although held back by the native white inhabitants they managed to complete the job in record time .
Of course, Diane Abbot is a shining example of the intellectual prowess of their top universities. She was Chair of Mathematics and Economics at the University of the Lower Congo.
Specialist area of police slavery: paying $30 each for 10,000 police at a total cost of £300,000.
I feel sorry for the good hard working black people too. A lot the brainwashing and the way they tell lies isn't good to be pushed on anyone.
I don't hearing them complaining.
I'm sure both of them will get over it.
@@fabiosplendido9536 at best!
Worse for hard working white people who are denied jobs and appreciation for what they've built.
I would like to express my appreciation for yet another demonstration of Mr. Webb's skill at the Great British Way Of Dealing Out Devastating Insult In The Most Polite Way.
"...not a brilliant production."
As a foreigner I stand in awe.
You can't beat a good mud hut 🛖
Simon, yet another accurate, well presented set of facts, ignored and overlooked by those with a different agenda to accepting the truth of history.
I’ve spent a considerable amount of time at the Zimbabwe ruins and the consensus amongst all the evidence points to the Phonecians/Arabs who had he locals build it. It was a mega central trading centre. There is also a large complex further up the hill, a fortress. The local black Zimbabwean claim they built it? Yes under the instruction of a more sophisticated race. As you rightly pointed out why live in a mud hut when you can have a stone building!
The Lemba tribe claim they built it and that they're descended from 'white men' who came from Arabia/the Middle East. DNA proves they are paternally descended from Middle Easterners.
I've spent a considerable amount of time at the Zimbabwe ruins, and the consensus among historians and anthropologists was that Great Zimbabwe was built by the people indigenous to the area, the Shona, due to DNA results, oral traditions, and linguistics.
@@NanakiRowan “Many tribes, including the Shona and Venda, maintain that their ancestors were responsible for Great Zimbabwe, but the Lemba are "particularly insistent," says Tudor Parfitt. "They claim that one of their clans, the Tovakare, were the actual builders of Zimbabwe," he says. "They even call them Tovakare Muzimbabwe, which means `the ones that built Zimbabwe.'" Certain evidence appears to support the Lemba claim. For instance, unlike other Bantu tribes, who bury their dead in a crouched posture, the Lemba bury theirs in an extended position, as did the ancient Zimbabweans. One of the strongest pieces of evidence concerns trade, Parfitt says. "Great Zimbabwe was a civilization that was constructed very largely on wealth generated from cattle and trade. And given that for hundreds of years we know the Lemba were the great traders of southern Africa, it seems almost certain that their ancestors would have been involved in this trading nexus between Great Zimbabwe and the Indian Ocean."
- PBS Nova (2000), Mystery of Great Zimbabwe
@@Ario-yt8ou Yes, thank you for acknowledging that the Shona built it.
@@NanakiRowan Don’t bother with this copy and paste troll. He is just as disingenuous as Simon he brings up the same debunked BS 😂. Looks like he created another troll account.
Simon I agree with the gist of what you said, but looking at some pictures of the walls of Great Zimbabwe they actually appear to be very neatly constructed, certainly not haphazardly arranged piles of rocks. I believe Great Zimbabwe was in a gold mining area and since archaeological finds include beads from Persia and China there was some trading going on - my layman's guess is that there was trade with Arabs on the coast of Mozambique - perhaps even the idea of building in stone came from Arab traders.
So therefore the stone walls cannot be attributed to Africans.
@@Jen-mf9rm I don't know and nobody else knows!
@@stumccabetbf I highly doubt that.
They built in stone long before Arabs even knew the south east coast of Africa existed. Plus it was the Swahili they traded with Arabs did not go inland.
@@stumccabewe do know archaeological finds and early European accounts confirm these were built by black Africans the Shona/Karanga-Kalanga.
They invented the elevator, but had no use for it because they never managed to build a two storey hut. Oh, and wells. But white Europeans took them all away. Which is why we see non stop ads on the telly begging for money to build wells, because it’s all our fault. Good job Lammy and Henry put me straight and cured me of my ‘white saviour complex’.
Here is something even dumber: A 'smart' group of people took them out of Africa, to live side by side with them, and even bred them like livestock to make them as large and strong as possible. Now that 'smart' group has to contend with their descendants right in their very own countries and towns. Pretty smart, eh?
They stay mainly in large groups in a single place.@@micheleemcdaniel389
I camped there 25 years ago while backpacking through Africa, it part build on nature Bolder’s, it resembles a fort, but very rudimentary, low doors as I split my head open passing through one.
The tyre necklace and begging bowl
Henry Ford built the first cars in the Congo……
His native land
Nah Fred Flintstone built the cave-mobile millions of years earlier.
None in South Africa - when the first Europeans arrived by ship they found no constructions (as known in Europe), the wheel was not yet invented and no written language was to be found.
nor bridges---that concept had not been developed yet.
😂😂😂 Actual early explorers beg to differ.
My sister in law s devot Christian is as we speak over in Calais working her holiday time in a refugee camp.
She works for the NHS , a few years ago she also went to Africa and worked in hospital two in a bed , once one climb out another got in
On a day off she went to this village were a water po had been installed by some aid group, but it wasn't working dhe asked why.
Apparently a small part needed replacing but some refused to pay so it stood idle, a few pence and the villagers were now walking miles to a dirty river.
You can't help some people
Young Tambo has to walk 5 miles a day to his nearest watering hole, you can see now why they are dominating the middle distance advents.
Well, unfortunately many of the residents of Chicago and other major American cities still have not emerged from the stone age.
“Not a straight line or a right angle to be seen.” High culture indeed.
Got to laugh at the fact they get a hole month ever year to celebrate these fantastic accomplishments.
Cheer up at least it's the shortest month.
I wonder if you left w off the front of hole deliberately? Black hole month does have a ring to it?
No as the kids say today my bad, but I had to smile at your mention of black hole month@@njd2342
I work for a local authority in the UK ,one day i went to look at a repair on one of our council houses ,the tenant told me he moved here from Zimbabwe where he ran a very successful agricultural engineering company employing 50 local people until Robert Mugabe`s government took it from him with next to no compensation ,It was to be run by the local black population .his friends who still live there say within 6 months the factory was derelict all the machinery seized up and broken ,even the small school he built to educate his workers children was demolished and carted off to be used elswhere .
I am intrigued by your measurement of civilisation. There were empires with large populations in africa, which is an achievement in itself. Whether technology development (in particular building development) is a prerequisit for civilisation is food for thought. I can well imagine that there were no environmental drivers for flash buildings. Warm weather and a large land mass does not drive the same developments that happened in europe.
Great Zimbabwe isn't a good example for architecture in Africa! West Africa has a long history and much better examples with large buildings and even cities that have been in continuous habitation for millenia.
in the old days all buildings were 100% recyclable and very eco frendly.
Beautifully and succintly put, as usual.
I have done archaeology in the State of Mississippi and found the remains of wattle and daub huts there built around the same time as Great Zimbabwe. The only reason part of these structures were preserved is because they burned and the mud was fired like brick. You could still see impressions of the reed mats over which the clay/mud mixture was smeared. At this time in the American Southeast the Native Americans were building earthen mounds shaped like pyramids atop which were temples or the houses of chiefs. The Natchez were still doing this in Mississippi when the French showed up in the late 17th and early 18th Century.
Someone who actually knows what they’re talking about finally.
And that poor girl still walking two miles to get water even now !
Zimbabwe Ruins was not the centre of a great civilization.
It was a massive trading post and collection area. It is situated perfectly to access the great hunting areas as well as the rich gold and emerald deposits. The high hill of the acropolis allowed the traders to burn fires at night which could be seen from great distances, guiding those inbound to sell their wares. It is also very close to the save river, which is big enough to run barges directly to the coast. The Chevron pattern on the Eastern wall of the great enclosure is the marker, when using the sun and shadow to accurately know the equinox. Thereby knowing exactly when the traders must depart from Zimbabwe to meet the dhows at the coast.
It is a magnificent construction to be sure. And very well built. Over time the construction definitely became better structured and the rocks more even in shape and size.
The chevron pattern comes straight from Arabia where the creators came from originally.
@@Ario-yt8ou😂😂😂 and pigs have wings at kiddo?
The major dry stone walling period in the Lake District and other places was with the Enclosures Act starting some 400 years ago.
Although there are hillforts with large stones which are Iron Age like Carl Wark near Hathersage.
The walling I've done used no cut stone but just natural as found nearby from the old wall and not a haphazard construction but a well thought out design which came about with the Enclosures Act for a long lasting wall. The men were paid to put up well constructed walls built to last.
The walls of Zimbabwe look pretty good to me.
What did you think of the lintels?
Its very easy to rewrite your history when you have no written record of that history, no way of writing it down, not even on clay tablets, and no way of reproducing that recorded history, not even pictures. Working on the blank slate of the imagination. Same thing happening in Australia, except in 65,000 years they didn't even reach the level of mud hut.
😂 Sorry they did actually write in many areas. I recommend researching a bit better.
That’s no way to talk about the World’s oldest living culture (conveniently forgetting for domestic sociopolitical reasons about the San people of far South West Africa).
There is no group worldwide better able educate the world on sustainable land management practices, that if practised would see starvation of 95% of the human population.
Oh Africa so much to answer for xx
What kind of things were being built in Africa before European colonisation? Let me have a think for a few minutes 🤔 Nope can't think of any
Then clearly you need to study
@@admirekashiri9879 Then clearly you need to get a sense of humour 😉
@@johnmichaelwhalen1648 What’s funny about being ignorant and uneducated?
What did the Africans ever do for us.@@admirekashiri9879
@@user-my2ji5dr9vThey feed your economy lad, you get cheap African goods which should be expensive as hell. If Africa had a central bank for example your economies would struggle to complete against the resources on the continent.
I really wish he’d put the photos up as the thumbnail teasers suggest.
Oh come come Simon.
I have seen a great documentary film about the fabulously technologically advanced kingdom of Wakanda. Without this place, we would not have modern medicine, advanced computing and technologies to aid and improve our world. As a kingdom, it is quite a Marvel!!
You forgot dung Mr Webb, they put dung in also