If you own a BMPCC 4k/6k is it worth it to get a Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2?
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I was recently faced with a similar situation. Buy a 6k as a second camera to go with my 4K, or buy an ursa mini pro g2. I decided on the ursa for several reasons.
It’s heavier, and has a better look if you want to shoot handheld style stuff. The high frame rate, because I wanted a 120fps that cuts well with base frame rate stuff, and wasn’t happy with the crop version on pocket 4K. Built in nds, better xlrs, and last but not least that extra dynamic range!!
I may have saved some money if had gone with another pocket, but I figured it was smarter to get another camera that could do different things well, than a second camera that does the same things well and poorly, for the times I need two cams rolling. I get much more use out of the g2 and pocket combo than I would out of two pockets.
After shooting the two in identical conditions I definitely think most people have underplayed the differences in image quality. My ursa footage looks much cleaner and punchier at the same time.... unless There isn’t enough light for the sensor. You’re one of the first people I’ve seen who feels similarly as I do that the dynamic range is easily noticeable and not insignificant.
I believe both the pockets are great but if you started with the 6K then your second camera should definitely be the ursa g2
I love your content man! Your channel is the perfect natural progression for someone now running or starting to run a video production company and has graduated from the dslrguide type channels. I appreciate your content greatly!!
Your passion for the Ursa had me booking a room for you two. I'm in Hawaii.
I was about to buy another camera and have been waiting for 2 months but now I’m definitely getting this one. Never heard of it before. You da man
Ty, I definitely have shared a host of your vids in the past. You body of work here on RUclips speaks for itself. Very informative, charismatic, consistent, & you know your stuff. Creating creating bro! Support all the way from Maryland!!!
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Literally just had a conversation about this topic yesterday! Thanks a lot!
Dammit. No I want and Ursa. I can't afford it yet. But you are right. Black Magic started something..
Great video and info Ty.
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Looking at buying one of these. This review was incredibly helpful, thanks!
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Side chick reference was the moment I hit da floor lol.
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Another great presentation! Thanks 😊 QUESTION...What are your thoughts between the Ursa mini And the Z-cam E2?
Awesome content! Keep up the great work Flash Film! I’m interested if you’d compare the Ursa to other Cinema cameras (like the c200, Sony fs7, etc.). Would definitely tune in to that!
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Can't agree with this take. It completely depends on what kind of work you do, not whether it's your livelihood or not. And for most the Ursa should stay a rental.
Real estate, events, interviews, products, social media, local commercials. All the common freelance jobs that need 4k60 or less, the Ursa offers little practical benefits over the 4k. Dynamic range makes us happy as artists, but clients are unlikely to care.
Ursa is a great camera, but for the 90% of us who don't routinely need more than 4k60 it's not a sound investment. That extra $4000 would be better spent on marketing and lighting.
If you do tons of super slow-mo, or really really need the dynamic range, then obviously get the Ursa. Otherwise it's a rental for special projects.
Thanks for this it's time for me to upgrade
I do agree but I’m expecting a LF Black Magic camera this spring. I will wait and see if my hunch is correct.
The pocket is a beast cam... I use it over my red dragon due to image qual, mobility, EOU and did I mention the mobility
Ursa is a good heavyweight run n’ gun camera like Sony FS7 for broadcast commercial work. Built in NDs are huge when shooting outside with vehicles and changing weather. High-frame rate options without massive crop is also critical. My BMPCC6K I’m always flipping lenses and filters which makes it difficult for tight time and budget shoots. ✌🏼
Lol this is probably your best video ever. I’m head to the camera store literally to buy this camera. The ursa mini been on my radar for a minute.
Excellent video!
Sticking with the BlackMagic, not enough spread to keep fence jumping.
What are filming with for these talking head shots? Body and lens? It looks amazing
I'm about to bite the bullet, but no one really says how to rig it to just get it started. So now the hunt begins to search. Very informative.
I have a video on that to
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Love the channel
Thank you for this honest review, currently on the fence on getting the Ursa g2 for a paid feature but still keep my 4K as a side bae.
great video! What are your thoughts on the original ursa mini OR the pocket 4k?
I’d take the original pocket 4K (not the 1080p) over the ursa mini all day and night
Good video with lots of great points. I personally own a pocket 4k and have a Canon C200 and URSA Mini 4.6k at work. For me, the Pocket 4k/6k is the perfect travel/interview camera. If I'm a one man band or have a very small crew, the Pocket is my go to camera. Its great for indoor work where you have limited lights and modifiers.
For any outdoor work or moving subject stuff, the C200 is my go to. No one has the auto focus system down like Canon's Dual Pixel auto focus. I've seen it do things that the best 1st AC's I've known couldn't do in moving subject situations. That is unfortunately the main downfall of the Blackmagic cameras, their auto focus system is trash.
For big crewed projects, I personally prefer the C200 as well. It's still light enough to fly on a Ronin S (stripped down with a light prime) and has the amazing low-light of the Pocket. I personally don't love the URSA Mini Pro at 1600 ISO in low light conditions. Since the price of the URSA Mini Pro and Canon C200 are about the same, it's hard to ignore all the benefits of the C200. That might change at NAB this year if Blackmagic can bring the low light capabilities of the Pocket to the URSA Mini Pro along with a better focus system.
Anyway, that's just my two cents as a fellow filmmaker. Keep up the good work!
"It screams B-CAM" LOL. My man Ty!!!
Ive bern using the ursa mini pro g2 since it dropped, absolute dream to work with, but one thing you forgot.... it looks incredibly professional abd clients like that, ive gotten tonnes of clients just coz my rig looks really professional and once I've had a client say they think the RED cameras look too showboaty and they didn't trust it haha
Truth!
First time in your channel and i think this video is GREAT!
I'm kind of new to this world; so if you allow me one question please. Do you think the same about the BMPCC 6K Pro vs2 the Ursa?
Thanks in advance and sorry for my English i'm still learning
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Yeah I think cit still take a lot of work
I have to ask what camera do you use and do you have a course on color grading because I'm loving the footage I'm seeing from you, seen a bunch of Ursa videos yours just looks good. Please help point me in the right direction a brothers tryna learn.
Also I subscribed
Saludos desde Colombia, entre la Ursa Mini y la Ursa mini g2 hay mucha diferencia? me recomendarias la Ursa Mini g1 en lugar de la BMPC 6K?
Definitely thinking ursa for the future. Budget constraints for now so I'm going with bmcc 2.5k or bmpcc.
hi, love your video man,
can i ask your advice since i'm at the crossroad at the moment and looking for guidance a little bit.
right now i'm conflicted between Canon EOS C70 and Ursa Mini Pro G2 at the moment. I had Bmpcc 4k and i also use canon for photography so i had a bunch of ef lens. I'm still in my twenties, and somehow it feels like i had to choose between to girlfriend to marry too. I also just watch your video about choosing A7s3 than C70.
which make me thinking, should i go for Ursa Mini Pro G2 or A7s3 as my main camera? becausue A7s3 offer such a great value.... tight body, no overheating, and cheaper...
Would love to see the S1H/S1 image quality vs Ursa image!!!
Daniel Shepherd about the same as a S1H vs Panasonic’s cinema line. Cinema line wins S1H is a good B cam.
The URSA 4.6k pro G2 is an amazing camera. I dont own one but, would love to use one. Good key points spoken here.
Great video.
Another great video🤓
Love the comparison! The side chick 🐥 comment is funny!! Totally understood it!
I'm looking for an A cam for my Blackmagic 4k. This camera is definitely at the top.
nice video .. very clear :-)
Nice video. Subbed
Hey did you get any heating issues since the quick release plate covers lower vents on the camera?
Would love to see a dynamic range comparison of the Pocket 6k and Ursa mini both at 800 iso. I have a feeling after pulling the highlights down in post the Pocket 6k would come out ahead. Ursa is definitely way easier to rig up though, the Pockets are awkward as all hell.
I think the pocket 6k is more versatile still for the portability. The image quality is still similar.
Ursa G2 is really good investment. I've bought one after P4K. Ursa 15 stops are great. BRAW 3200 ISO 👍 also usable.
Which is better for Independent film as well client work?
Very well presented, but did feel a little like a promo video for the URSA?
Bro you’re funny 😂 subbed
Another dope video bro!! Great points!! Btw. I posted your video on my LinkedIn page... TWICE!
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I owned 2 units of G2. For narrative purposes, it's awesome.
What’s better to get a Sony alpha or the Blackmagic
I always say this to people interested in the G2. It is a workhorse. It is made to be PUT TO WORK. I have earned its costs back 10 fold in the 7 months ive owned it. It has been with me at 16k elevation climbing a valcano, and dominated corporate shoots and recently wedding films as well.
Own both ursa g2 and the pocket 6k and the color of the ursa pops out more to me. the sensor seems to render the colors in a more defined tone.
Yo just gave you a shoutout on my last video!! I reviewed the Sokani. Keep it real man love your work. Was just thinking about this subject yesterday, glad you keep the finger on the pulse of video. Any thoughts on an it’s upgrade soon? URSA mini 6k/8K ?!?!
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Bro THANKS 🙏🏾
The side chick comment had me rolling!
We just burnt a new BMPCC 6K $650 mistake, I just realized based on your other video that its the DTaP :( What a good DTAP do you recommend)
Another killer video
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BMPCC 4k or 6k is a camera for even hobbyists to own. For commercial work the Ursa is great, and you can always rent exactly you need if cameras you own aren't right for the job. Good show!
I don't even know where to start learning. I love photography, I want to understand shooting videos, and someday I would love to get paid to shoot commercials, but If i'm just starting out, where the heck do I start?
i want internal nd filter in next mirrorless bmpcc camera.👍👍👍12k or 10k or 8k
We’re using the Ursa Mini Pro in my lighting class and its honestly my next upgrade whenever im able to budget, but my question is does it come with a PL mount option? Because i honestly feel like thinking future term if i invest in PL glass now and im able to use jt future term whenever i get to higher end cinema cameras
Standard EF mount but they have a $245 optional upgrade.
Awesome.
I'm confused. If the ursla is the choice camera, why you don't own one. You had to get them to send you one.?????
Dude i like your videos but this is just you happy to be sent a G2. I have a rigged up P6k and its 100% not a side chick to the G2. REAL benefits of the G2 are HFR and15 stops dynamic rage (didn't notice ANY dynamic rage difference in your samples by the way).
Benefits of the 6K is it can be COMPACT or Rigged to a G2 size, its really good at low light and its 6K, easy to mount on ANY gimbal.
Audio on the Pocket cameras is BETTER than OK.
People are so SPOILT these days, they look for MINOR things to HATE on equipments. I shot a feature film on a 5d3 Magic lantern that screened at TIFF and was on NETFLIX for 3 years (and it was EASY to use). P4K/6K is 100% more than enough for anything you want to do.
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@@TheCuttyBrown yes most of he's videos. You know him?
@@akpevbe nah I was just checking out your videos.. looking good!
how did you mount it on a ronin s I'm having trouble balancing mine
@@AlexNejera I mount mine on a FreeFly MoviM5
Hahahahah!!! This kept me laughing. Love the way you broke it down "side-chick" LMOA!!!!!
I would love a tutorial on photo/video licensing agreement so our work can’t get taken advantage of keep up the good work!!
Just shared with 2 friends!
I'm running an Ursa Mini Pro with viewfinder, SSD recorder and different mounts and think I will not change my camera for the next 5-10 years at least. And get this: the Ursa Mini Pro is approved for Netflix Original production! Just to get an idea about professional.
Moreover, a lot of people underestimate the B4 (broadcast) mount. Sure, it limits you to HD resolution only but that's nothing you have to worry about. Real broadcast lenses on the other hand give not just incredible glass from Fujinon, Leica or Canon. They are typically Parfocal and have an insane zoom range like 12-140mm. You also get a ussable shoulder mount, not the best but ok, a Timecode in in case you work with different cameras at the same time and you have killer options when it comes to codecs.
As I said above, it's so relaxing if you don't need to watch all these halfbacked "Oh this new camera blah blah blah" RUclips videos anymore because you KNOW the camera you have does it all and better.
My C500 Mark II does it all for me. Ursa is ok
So in your opinion, should I invest in the Ursa Mini G2 for filming or Bmpcc4k? I use the Gh5 for my corporate freelance jobs. But for filming I was thinking about either the Bmpcc4k or the Ursa G2
Filmmaking? G2 you get more dynamic range.
I owned the original ursa v2,the ursa mini 4k,the ursa mini pro and after the ursa G2...Now i have also 2 BMPCC 6K and the only difference i noticed was the sensor...I believe the Ursas have 1.4x Crop where the BMPCC 6K has 1.558 (lets say 1.6)... About the audio is irrelevant,i'm using the Zoom H6 or F6...I don't believe is a good idea to record audio internally,i rock my H6 on my rig,has 2 backups so it's impossible to lose audio.
The low light and DR won't matter if you know the basics of exposure etc.
I will always prefer the BMPCC 6K because it's balancing also on my gimbals,even in the Ronin S using the cage and the ssd... That's a win... ]
The internal ND's is the best part of the G2
I'm not into side chicks, either. But, I completely agree with you. I own the BMPCC4K, and I love it. Lately, I was thinking that the Ursa Mini Pro G2 would be my next camera. I shot a feature film with the GH5 last year. Later I sold it for the BMPCC4K. The director of the feature film and I are sitting down to come up with our next film. I'd be happy if my pay as DP was the Ursa Mini Pro G2. I'd accept that. :D
Wish the Red Helium had the built in ND filters. Would make our job easier
My original Cannon Rebel T2i was $800.00. Not 200-300 . when it came out.
Bro i agree with you, shot with the Ursa mini pro today it is an awesome camera butthat thing is an attention seeker everyone kept look at me compared to when i have my bmpcc 4k. well guess what i'm trying to say is i just love the size of the bmpcc 4k, but the ursa is great maybe blackmagic should come up with ursa mini pro pocket.
the Q is..does the end consumer know the difference???
Question: does the pocket 6k has focus peak?? Where you can see items that are in focus red ? I can’t find it. I see focus assist , but that’s not it. Could you tell me if it does have it and where to find it??
Joel Rivera yes and it’s really good when you put it on the high setting
😂 the side chick analogies, you’re a fool man. Good video!
Are the lenses loose on your BMPCC 4K?
No not on mine
I'm hanging with my lil GH5
The best way to decide is to look at the pros the other camera doesn’t. I think marrying them together. One camera might be better in pro audio (XLR), one my not. One might have higher frame rates one. This video speaks to that for sure.
Agreed, use the right tool for the job. You can use a screwdriver to drive in a nail, but why not use a hammer.
How does the blakmagic URSA V1 compare to the Pocket 6K
Ursa provides more dynamic range. Bmpcc provides better low light and smaller size
@@FlashFilmAcademy So you would recommend the URSA is what I´m hearing? Even as a Version 1
If you still have the camera can you post some slow mo (edit) the 300 FPS*
Check end of the video
@@FlashFilmAcademy I did. awesome shot. But is that the 300 FPS or the 120? Looked like 120. I have the 4K and the 6K and am truly contemplating getting the G2 just for the slow mo. *I shoot a lot of action sports. And the 300 FPS in particular is very compelling.
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One question-
If you had to ask Blackmagic to lend you the Ursa G2, whitehead one do YOU own and use?
So I’ve owned other URSAs (4K 👎🏾) then I went out and Bligh pockets. This was my first time using the G2
Thanks for the quick response!
I am a little confused-
You are stating that the Ursa is the “Workhorse”, and that the pocket is a great “B-cam”...
What camera do you use right now for your “workhorse”?
Do you recommend the BMPCC over the Sony Aii7? I value your input because I was planing on buying the Sony next but I need the best quality at affordable price.
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