Love Seikos but my enthusiasm is waning as prices climb and movements remain underwhelming. Time to provide better movements and while at it state and live up to better accuracy ranges. But not holding my breath- the ridiculous price increases in luxury brands allows Seiko to increase prices without addressing movement weaknesses. AND as usual a thoughtful review!
I tried this on during a watches and whiskey event at my local AD a little over a month ago.... i really like it! The bracelet is spectacular, especially for Seiko standards.
Just bought the red dial king seiko, and I thought looong and hard about buying it. I wished it came with a better movment but the moment is certainly not terrible, just ok. But everything else is literally AMAZING. THE BRACELET, THE FINISHING, THE INDEXES, THE DIAL, THE SIZE!!! just amazing and imo makes up for the average movment. It's literally amazing, it's the first time i get stopped and asked about my watch within minutes of wearing it in public :)
I bought the red one too. I couldn’t be bothered about all the movement negativity. Who cares? It’s not a bad movement, just mediocre. I must say the watch feels uber premium.
@@baraaamir7891 I agree. To be honest I could afford a Grand Seiko but as my job involves a lot of running around and getting mucky sometimes, I’m a restaurant manager and also give the chef’s night off, I couldn’t risk wearing something so expensive and special everyday. My wrist feels empty if I go work without my watch. Funnily I have a watch for the gym too, G Shock cause that’s a gym king lol
Purchased a mint condition KS 4502 Hi-Beat. Can't knock the OG release for its horological significance and iconic design language, which can be had for better than half price than the re-issue!
Agreed on all counts. It's a solid business / brand move, but probably not so much for enthusiasts...bc for us, we've got for instance Monta and Formex both at this price-point and with +/- 5 seconds accuracy from the former and COSC from the latter, plus higher level finishing and so much more, then like Junghans, Nomos, etc. So yeah, if we wanna step it up from there we're probably going to keep saving and go Grand Seiko, and stick to Prospex / Presage and all for collectable affordables.
@@stelugud Seiko’s heritage is questionable, as it’s popularity is based mainly on cheap, run of the mill watches. If you care about “heritage” (whatever it is), and want better movements, then you’d better off with Longines, Hamilton, Rado, Doxa and countless others…
@@andreacanali81 To each their own, but for me as a quite avid collector for many years, accuracy is definitely an important criteria of a good movement. For others, it's not a big deal and other qualities are more important.
@@andreacanali81 A movement has many requirements to be defined good, and accuracy is one of them. And, actually, a true watch enthusiast (not a jewellery enthusiast) does care a lot about accuracy.
I like the boutique only approach sometimes as it keeps alive the experience of going to a watch shop. It keeps that part of the industry active. The world can't just be online online online with everything.
King Seiko will be at the Longines/Tudor level I will think. I actually quite like this watch. Seiko is reaching too high being at the 5k level which they did with a spring drive watch a time ago. Having King Seiko in between is a good idea in my opinion.
If King Seiko are going to line up against Tudors they will lose, Grand Seiko can play around those bigger boys basically because of the workmanship of those watches beats most of the others plus that Spring Drive.. 💋
I really want one of these, but not at 1.7K with the 6R movement. Although I am glad they went with a solid case back, that movement is not acceptable in the price range. You could get a COSC Longines or similar in the price point this watch is competing in. I have a SPB243 with the 6R35 movement, from new it ran at around -45 to -55 seconds/day. I sent it to Seiko under warranty, got it back with smudges on the dial and rotor and it still runs at about -25 spd, outside of their "promised" parameters.
I recently purchased the red dial, it's beutiful, genuinely gorgeous! The dial and indexes finishing is amazing. Especially the 12 oclock index is identical to the limited release KS which is so intricate and for 1700$ I'd say it's worth it because your getting finishing that better than any presage and extremely close to a GS. The movement is average but it's certainly not a bad movement. And the very thing polished segment on the bezel is done so well lowlife zero distortion on that segment specifically. The bracelet is amazing, and the size is vintage.
Love the watch and it’s style. King Seiko should be the only brand on the dial, it’s a tad overcrowded. The movement for the price is most certainty underselling, esspcially knowing what Seiko is capable of.
Why does Seiko make the same mistake, they made with Grand Seiko till some years ago? Talking about the name on the dial. If they wanna position King Seiko better than Seiko, the name King Seiko has to be on top like they do now with Grand Seiko. Apart from that, nice watches 👍🏻
I spoke to their brand manager at Dubai Watch Week last year, their approach to marketing and brand separation etc, is very different to our western view. For them overlapping etc. is perfectly fine and makes sense. I guess here but since the movement is not yet a King Seiko, it’s co-branded, until they get their own identity. They see it as Seiko helping the brand to take off rather than hindering it. Very different viewpoints. And hard to grasp from our way of seeing things….🤷🏼♂️
picked one up for 1300 flat which i think is a more fair pricepoint for this, 2k ish is rough considering the presage movement though. At 1300 i can accept that being 5-600 over a presage for the better finishing
i have the one with the 6L35 movement. it's not well adjusted. Runs fast like a$400.00 seiko. They should have made it run like a grand seiko and given the fine adjustment as the distinction. But as it was, it was disappointing to me.
I love the watch style and bracelet, would have bought one for sure but the movement is way underperformer for the price now that all swiss are churning out chronometer certified in this range plus true GMTs for a grand more!
Looks like it was tailor-made for your wrist! With those end links, I'm not sure that it would look half as good on mine... Saving up for one of the 34-37mm Grand Seiko!
When it comes to the 6r, they don't underpromise and overdeliver. That movement can be all over the place. They should have put a 6l in this. Then the inside becomes commensurate with the exterior. Putting a 6r in this makes no sense. I don't think these are gonna sell well.
Perhaps it’s just anecdotal, but I’m not sure I agree with the “under promise and over deliver” on the movement. 3 watches with 6r movements myself and they’ve all been awful in terms of timekeeping. Close or outside of accepted tolerances, not taking long to return to poor timekeeping after regulation and servicing. And I’m not the only one with that story. 6r family movements just don’t seem great. So I agree with you, that when you’re paying closer to 1.5k/2k seiko need to deliver more on the movement front. It’s a real shame, because I love this watch and other cases carrying a 6r. The movement just sucks for the price.
Great idea but a major failure for a Seiko fan, easily over $500 more than it should be. I'd like to see King Seiko bring a different movement to the market, something thinner for sure. In two minds about the bracelet as it's a visual improvement, I'd still like to see something a little more sleek, a more thoughtful clasp and maybe even a half link?
I like be the look of this watch! I might pick one up on used market to get a better value. $1700 is a lot for 6r movement. I feel like that movement is maxed out at $1200 price range.
Yeah. I have seen a lot of overreaction to the movement but mine arrived yesterday and was at about -17. I have just adjusted it to +10 face up and I expect that with 8 or 9 hours in the watch-box, face up, I will be at about +2 or +3, which will be perfect, but out the box, -17 isn't really good enough. I paid UK1000 which is about 1200 dollars and the watch is stellar for that money. I also have a 54 year old KS45-7000 and it is really tight in all directions and running at +2, and is clearly a much better movement. The new KS is great, but it did deserve a chronometer, like the originals had.
Just checked out the light purple dial (SPB291) and was very impressed. At the retail price it doesn't quite make sense to me. That being said, with a 20-25% discount it becomes a much more exciting offering!
I can’t seem to get too excited about Kong Seiko. At that price point there are SO many other, intriguing options, some COSC, so I’ll have to pass big time.
I hear you. To me this isn't a one watch type of collection. In my eyes its a great addition to a rotation. I would be really tempted by that lavender dial!
Have the Seiko sarb 017 and sarb 035 in my connection. Both with 6r15 movements. Spent around £400/$482 for each. Although a more updated 6r movement in the King but it and the finish is just not worth the $1200 price difference to me. Beautiful watch but at the wrong price point, considering the value Seiko used to offer.
May be they want to move Grand Seiko a bit higher , like 10+ TEUR . But territory between 2-6 tEUR would be named KING Seiko . Makes perfect sense for business !
Agree with you mate absolutely on their execution of strategies, really looking forward to their product line release down the pipeline. Bruce, on the other end, do you think they are releasing too many watches? in the recent year seems Seiko management is trying to reinvent themselves.
The product catalog has really exploded over the past decade. I don't mind the extra choice myself. I always just pick and choose my favorites. I assume everyone does the same. Perhaps the large catalog is effective in pulling in a wider range of consumers.
It's a nice looking watch, however, this one really doesn't connect with me, especially with 6R31 movement. Not sure how I feel about the dial text. It looks unbalanced with the King Seiko at the bottom. For the asking price, they really could've done better. I had a Presage SJE073 that had a 6L35. It looked awesome, it ran at 28800, had a better listed accuracy of +10/-15, and had some fair decoration on the movement. The price I paid was about $1800. That watch gave much more for the money. Seiko dropped the ball with this one in my opinion.
Seiko, you buy the dial and Seiko throws in the movement for free Grand Seiko, you buy the movement and Zaratsu polishing case and GS throws in the dial for free King Seiko remakes (SPBs/SDKS JDMs), you buy the better-than-99% similarly-priced-Swiss polished case and bracelet, and Seiko throws in the movement for free On that note, KS punches way above its weight, as you get 70-75% of GS-quality cases, polishing, while some may argue that KS steel bracelet may be more comfortable than a GS counterpart. The cost? 25%-35% of regular GS prices. At the end of the day (not trying to be a Seiko fanboy), you got to give credit where credit is due. People are hard on Seiko because they are used to the
Nice review, Bruce, thank you 👍🙂. Watch is good looking, bracelet lokks really nice- dare I say I find it more visually appealing than some GS models. The side profile is bold, not so sure, but then I said that about the Samurai and it grew on me till I just had to get one 🤪
Seiko needs to get rid of the Seiko logo and move the King Seiko logo to the top and put the King Seiko crown emblem above it. And put all gold king Seiko crown on the back of the watch. 👍
Give me a nice date version, and I'm in. Either at 6 oclock or at 4:30. That way symmetry is okay still. 6r movement at the price, is an over-reach though.
Well its a movement from a 500-600 dollar watch where's the other 1100 dollars going? I mean it's a nice watch but at 1700 dollars why would I even think about buying it... oh that's right I won't.
For $2k, I can get a watch with more features, practicality, and that can be worn in more places than yet another steel watch. It should say, "King Seiko" up top. Sure, it's pretty, but if the dress watch doesn't have lume so I can see how close to the intermission we are at the Opera, or under the table when I want to plan an escape from clients/work, no thanks. Most likely, they will again only offer the lume versions to the JDM. Shame they also love to skimp on lume. The dial alone is only going to take them so far as the mid tier market becomes further engulfed by inflation and rising costs everywhere else.
I like it. There was also the limited edition SJE083J1 I tried it on, it looked great. But didn't buy it. That of course had date display, but on crocodile strap. Pricey, but interesting. That has the 6L35 movement. Did you see that one?
Gah! The only thing that really upsets me about the king Seiko is the movement. It just seems like a watch that caters to watch geeks…… but yet, the movement was really overlooked. Hopefully a movement upgrade soon!
Just received my red dial watch. Stunning in person! The case work is great to look at. A lot right going on. In the sun , the dial pops . The bracelet looks great on the watch. The movement? Could have been better. Over all a home run! It will sit next to my GS s
They should have used a 6L movement to give more respect to the King Seiko name. But if they did, the price point would have gone up to $2k+. To me, that would be fine but I’m pretty sure there’d be a lot more whiners. Beautiful watch.
37 diameter case with a 12.3 height is a hard pass for me. Seiko, GS, Omega, and now King Seiko are always delivering watches that are too thick. This should be 10.3mm tall.
You really need to try it on your wrist. It wears like 10mm thick. Forget about the spex... I wear formal shirts and this watch disappears under the sleeve.
Giving a low beat movement makes it more a workhorse and lets you skip maintenance, I see this as a good thing.
I agree 👍🏼💯
You drank a very strong copium juice there
Love Seikos but my enthusiasm is waning as prices climb and movements remain underwhelming. Time to provide better movements and while at it state and live up to better accuracy ranges. But not holding my breath- the ridiculous price increases in luxury brands allows Seiko to increase prices without addressing movement weaknesses. AND as usual a thoughtful review!
I tried this on during a watches and whiskey event at my local AD a little over a month ago.... i really like it! The bracelet is spectacular, especially for Seiko standards.
So true. We aren't used to being impressed with bracelets from this brand haha
Just bought the red dial king seiko, and I thought looong and hard about buying it. I wished it came with a better movment but the moment is certainly not terrible, just ok. But everything else is literally AMAZING. THE BRACELET, THE FINISHING, THE INDEXES, THE DIAL, THE SIZE!!! just amazing and imo makes up for the average movment. It's literally amazing, it's the first time i get stopped and asked about my watch within minutes of wearing it in public :)
I love to hear it!!
6R is a great movement. ETA is average.
I bought the red one too. I couldn’t be bothered about all the movement negativity. Who cares? It’s not a bad movement, just mediocre. I must say the watch feels uber premium.
@@boerashid 100% agree. The watch genuinely feels special. The indexes are amazing. And it genuinely feels like a GS for cheap.
@@baraaamir7891 I agree. To be honest I could afford a Grand Seiko but as my job involves a lot of running around and getting mucky sometimes, I’m a restaurant manager and also give the chef’s night off, I couldn’t risk wearing something so expensive and special everyday. My wrist feels empty if I go work without my watch. Funnily I have a watch for the gym too, G Shock cause that’s a gym king lol
Purchased a mint condition KS 4502 Hi-Beat. Can't knock the OG release for its horological significance and iconic design language, which can be had for better than half price than the re-issue!
That is such a gorgeous looking watch. It reminds me of an upscale SARB without a date complication.
exactly....but 4 times as much as a SARB
Having owned a couple sarbs, I had a similar thought while filming the watch. Definitely a nicer watch than a sarb but we pay for that upgrade
As a sports watch, this design is better than anything Grand Seiko produces
Agreed on all counts. It's a solid business / brand move, but probably not so much for enthusiasts...bc for us, we've got for instance Monta and Formex both at this price-point and with +/- 5 seconds accuracy from the former and COSC from the latter, plus higher level finishing and so much more, then like Junghans, Nomos, etc. So yeah, if we wanna step it up from there we're probably going to keep saving and go Grand Seiko, and stick to Prospex / Presage and all for collectable affordables.
U dont have heritage with monta and formex, many ppl want heritage too when they buy a watch
@@stelugud
Seiko’s heritage is questionable, as it’s popularity is based mainly on cheap, run of the mill watches. If you care about “heritage” (whatever it is), and want better movements, then you’d better off with Longines, Hamilton, Rado, Doxa and countless others…
A true watch enthusiast doesn't care about accuracy. Accuracy is not a syninonymous with good movement.
@@andreacanali81 To each their own, but for me as a quite avid collector for many years, accuracy is definitely an important criteria of a good movement. For others, it's not a big deal and other qualities are more important.
@@andreacanali81
A movement has many requirements to be defined good, and accuracy is one of them. And, actually, a true watch enthusiast (not a jewellery enthusiast) does care a lot about accuracy.
What isn't overpriced these days? Nice looking Seiko though 👌
Truth!
Tudor, Orient, Casio
Wish, Grand Seiko had that kind of bracelets, please Seiko, make that happen.
I naively messaged GS and suggested they develop a few models with metal bracelets rivaling the Overseas or Royal Oak. Waiting for that special day.
Check SBGK009
when the shot of KS and GS side by side, man, the GS just blow the competition out of water
I like the boutique only approach sometimes as it keeps alive the experience of going to a watch shop. It keeps that part of the industry active. The world can't just be online online online with everything.
King Seiko will be at the Longines/Tudor level I will think. I actually quite like this watch. Seiko is reaching too high being at the 5k level which they did with a spring drive watch a time ago. Having King Seiko in between is a good idea in my opinion.
If King Seiko are going to line up against Tudors they will lose, Grand Seiko can play around those bigger boys basically because of the workmanship of those watches beats most of the others plus that Spring Drive.. 💋
I really want one of these, but not at 1.7K with the 6R movement. Although I am glad they went with a solid case back, that movement is not acceptable in the price range. You could get a COSC Longines or similar in the price point this watch is competing in. I have a SPB243 with the 6R35 movement, from new it ran at around -45 to -55 seconds/day. I sent it to Seiko under warranty, got it back with smudges on the dial and rotor and it still runs at about -25 spd, outside of their "promised" parameters.
absolute beauty imo. Yes the movement seems a little underwhelming but it is a good reliable movement so there's that.
I really enjoy the overall aesthetic of the King Seiko. I'm particularly interested in the red dial SPB287.
I recently purchased the red dial, it's beutiful, genuinely gorgeous! The dial and indexes finishing is amazing. Especially the 12 oclock index is identical to the limited release KS which is so intricate and for 1700$ I'd say it's worth it because your getting finishing that better than any presage and extremely close to a GS. The movement is average but it's certainly not a bad movement. And the very thing polished segment on the bezel is done so well lowlife zero distortion on that segment specifically. The bracelet is amazing, and the size is vintage.
Love the watch and it’s style.
King Seiko should be the only brand on the dial, it’s a tad overcrowded.
The movement for the price is most certainty underselling, esspcially knowing what Seiko is capable of.
Already bought one. Its case is well polished, super shiny. Better than all Presage series except the caliber.
Why does Seiko make the same mistake, they made with Grand Seiko till some years ago? Talking about the name on the dial. If they wanna position King Seiko better than Seiko, the name King Seiko has to be on top like they do now with Grand Seiko. Apart from that, nice watches 👍🏻
Well said. History repeats itself sometimes not always in a good way lol
Great point. I would love a King Seiko only branding
I spoke to their brand manager at Dubai Watch Week last year, their approach to marketing and brand separation etc, is very different to our western view. For them overlapping etc. is perfectly fine and makes sense. I guess here but since the movement is not yet a King Seiko, it’s co-branded, until they get their own identity. They see it as Seiko helping the brand to take off rather than hindering it. Very different viewpoints. And hard to grasp from our way of seeing things….🤷🏼♂️
@@koolpep Great info and perspective, thank you Ralf 👍
Great point👍
picked one up for 1300 flat which i think is a more fair pricepoint for this, 2k ish is rough considering the presage movement though. At 1300 i can accept that being 5-600 over a presage for the better finishing
You will pay that for a Swiss watch.
That’s the base price of my certina ds action diver lol
@@Art-is-craft Swiss doesnt automatically mean better lol
@@jlyt18
Point is you will pay more. So the price for the King is ok
I have an original example from 1965 in great condition. This reissue looks very faithful to the original just the price sucks.
Great review. I love the textured 12oclock marker especially.
i have the one with the 6L35 movement. it's not well adjusted. Runs fast like a$400.00 seiko. They should have made it run like a grand seiko and given the fine adjustment as the distinction. But as it was, it was disappointing to me.
Very nice looking watch, a pity about the butterfly clasp, I'm not a fan of butterfly clasps...
I love the watch style and bracelet, would have bought one for sure but the movement is way underperformer for the price now that all swiss are churning out chronometer certified in this range plus true GMTs for a grand more!
The opening matches the wonderful Beethoven
Its more like $1300, not $2000 which makes the movement forgivable. Thus watch is a must fir a seiko collection
Looks like it was tailor-made for your wrist! With those end links, I'm not sure that it would look half as good on mine... Saving up for one of the 34-37mm Grand Seiko!
When it comes to the 6r, they don't underpromise and overdeliver. That movement can be all over the place. They should have put a 6l in this. Then the inside becomes commensurate with the exterior. Putting a 6r in this makes no sense. I don't think these are gonna sell well.
Perhaps it’s just anecdotal, but I’m not sure I agree with the “under promise and over deliver” on the movement. 3 watches with 6r movements myself and they’ve all been awful in terms of timekeeping. Close or outside of accepted tolerances, not taking long to return to poor timekeeping after regulation and servicing.
And I’m not the only one with that story. 6r family movements just don’t seem great. So I agree with you, that when you’re paying closer to 1.5k/2k seiko need to deliver more on the movement front.
It’s a real shame, because I love this watch and other cases carrying a 6r. The movement just sucks for the price.
Great idea but a major failure for a Seiko fan, easily over $500 more than it should be. I'd like to see King Seiko bring a different movement to the market, something thinner for sure. In two minds about the bracelet as it's a visual improvement, I'd still like to see something a little more sleek, a more thoughtful clasp and maybe even a half link?
The problem is not the watch. The problem is the movement. A better movement and the price would have been fine
I like be the look of this watch! I might pick one up on used market to get a better value. $1700 is a lot for 6r movement. I feel like that movement is maxed out at $1200 price range.
Yeah. I have seen a lot of overreaction to the movement but mine arrived yesterday and was at about -17. I have just adjusted it to +10 face up and I expect that with 8 or 9 hours in the watch-box, face up, I will be at about +2 or +3, which will be perfect, but out the box, -17 isn't really good enough. I paid UK1000 which is about 1200 dollars and the watch is stellar for that money. I also have a 54 year old KS45-7000 and it is really tight in all directions and running at +2, and is clearly a much better movement. The new KS is great, but it did deserve a chronometer, like the originals had.
Sorry for that price it should have a 6 o’clock date and a little lume and 100m water resistance with a screw-down crown! It’s a no for me!
Sounds like you need a sports watch
Just checked out the light purple dial (SPB291) and was very impressed. At the retail price it doesn't quite make sense to me. That being said, with a 20-25% discount it becomes a much more exciting offering!
I can’t seem to get too excited about Kong Seiko. At that price point there are SO many other, intriguing options, some COSC, so I’ll have to pass big time.
Same, can’t really get around the Kong Seiko, a Godzilla Seiko on the other hand! That’s where it is
I hear you. To me this isn't a one watch type of collection. In my eyes its a great addition to a rotation. I would be really tempted by that lavender dial!
If that was a mechanical movement with hi-beat, I’d be all over it. The grammar of design shows through on that case design.
This is a nice piece..seiko is doing some great stuff recently
Have the Seiko sarb 017 and sarb 035 in my connection. Both with 6r15 movements. Spent around £400/$482 for each.
Although a more updated 6r movement in the King but it and the finish is just not worth the $1200 price difference to me.
Beautiful watch but at the wrong price point, considering the value Seiko used to offer.
I bought and sold the white sarb, and believe me, there is no comparison with this KS. If anything, it makes the sarb look like a 100 dollar watch.
@@dgbucko It looks great, have never seen it in the flesh, only reviews but I cant get past the movement.
May be they want to move Grand Seiko a bit higher , like 10+ TEUR . But territory between 2-6 tEUR would be named KING Seiko . Makes perfect sense for business !
Got an old smoother KS 36,000 rehabilitated for way, WAY less.
Agree with you mate absolutely on their execution of strategies, really looking forward to their product line release down the pipeline. Bruce, on the other end, do you think they are releasing too many watches? in the recent year seems Seiko management is trying to reinvent themselves.
The product catalog has really exploded over the past decade. I don't mind the extra choice myself. I always just pick and choose my favorites. I assume everyone does the same. Perhaps the large catalog is effective in pulling in a wider range of consumers.
@@BruceWilliams brilliant thanks for the reply Bruce, have a great day!
Yes it's too expensive when you consider you can get a Tissot 1938 COSC Certified for much less Or get an Alpanist with the same Movment...
It's a nice looking watch, however, this one really doesn't connect with me, especially with 6R31 movement. Not sure how I feel about the dial text. It looks unbalanced with the King Seiko at the bottom. For the asking price, they really could've done better. I had a Presage SJE073 that had a 6L35. It looked awesome, it ran at 28800, had a better listed accuracy of +10/-15, and had some fair decoration on the movement. The price I paid was about $1800. That watch gave much more for the money. Seiko dropped the ball with this one in my opinion.
A 1968-74 King Seiko ks4502 with 36000 hi beat at around $500 is much much worthy! And it’s the real King.
Seiko, you buy the dial and Seiko throws in the movement for free
Grand Seiko, you buy the movement and Zaratsu polishing case and GS throws in the dial for free
King Seiko remakes (SPBs/SDKS JDMs), you buy the better-than-99% similarly-priced-Swiss polished case and bracelet, and Seiko throws in the movement for free
On that note, KS punches way above its weight, as you get 70-75% of GS-quality cases, polishing, while some may argue that KS steel bracelet may be more comfortable than a GS counterpart. The cost? 25%-35% of regular GS prices.
At the end of the day (not trying to be a Seiko fanboy), you got to give credit where credit is due. People are hard on Seiko because they are used to the
Nice review, Bruce, thank you 👍🙂. Watch is good looking, bracelet lokks really nice- dare I say I find it more visually appealing than some GS models. The side profile is bold, not so sure, but then I said that about the Samurai and it grew on me till I just had to get one 🤪
Seiko needs to get rid of the Seiko logo and move the King Seiko logo to the top and put the King Seiko crown emblem above it. And put all gold king Seiko crown on the back of the watch. 👍
Give me a nice date version, and I'm in. Either at 6 oclock or at 4:30. That way symmetry is okay still.
6r movement at the price, is an over-reach though.
I don't think seikos are as cheap as they used to be. But I wouldn't call them overpriced as long as Rolex is still around.
It takes me a little while to appreciated this watch. But i will get there. thanks for the video.
I cannot understand how people are asking for lume in a King Seiko. That only reveals lack of knowledge for the brand....
Well its a movement from a 500-600 dollar watch where's the other 1100 dollars going? I mean it's a nice watch but at 1700 dollars why would I even think about buying it... oh that's right I won't.
For $2k, I can get a watch with more features, practicality, and that can be worn in more places than yet another steel watch. It should say, "King Seiko" up top. Sure, it's pretty, but if the dress watch doesn't have lume so I can see how close to the intermission we are at the Opera, or under the table when I want to plan an escape from clients/work, no thanks. Most likely, they will again only offer the lume versions to the JDM. Shame they also love to skimp on lume. The dial alone is only going to take them so far as the mid tier market becomes further engulfed by inflation and rising costs everywhere else.
100% overpriced Sir.
Seiko supposed - Nice + Good material ( super Titanium ) + Sapphire Crystal with Affordable $$$ + 37 mm size.
Nice looking watch, great bracelet. But I think I'd put a leather strap on that, something a bit more elegant.
I like it. There was also the limited edition SJE083J1 I tried it on, it looked great. But didn't buy it. That of course had date display, but on crocodile strap. Pricey, but interesting. That has the 6L35 movement. Did you see that one?
Love the retro dress watch motif. Make mine red
how does this compare on-the-wrist size wise with the 34mm tudor prince?
Many people need hi beat movement and yet RO AP with 2.5 Hz has gone bonkers. Double standards !!
Speedy too. Never once see a complaint on the forums and YT.
They should have given this it’s own movement. Personally, I’d pay the extra and get a GS..
For that price you can get 2 Christopher wards made in Switzerland or 1 Monta Noble again Swiss made and with a high beat, and more accurate sw200.
Always great alternatives at all price points. I'm about buying what speaks to you. That makes any decision the right one
Lovely watch and at the right size for a gentleman!
A pure sentimental value for $1,700. Absolutely nothing else.
Gah! The only thing that really upsets me about the king Seiko is the movement. It just seems like a watch that caters to watch geeks…… but yet, the movement was really overlooked. Hopefully a movement upgrade soon!
something about the lugs that doesn't appeal to me......the rolex supercase comes to mind!!
Just received my red dial watch. Stunning in person! The case work is great to look at. A lot right going on. In the sun , the dial pops . The bracelet looks great on the watch. The movement? Could have been better. Over all a home run! It will sit next to my GS s
Nice looking watch but those release levers on the clasp Protrude out way to much.
They should have used a 6L movement to give more respect to the King Seiko name. But if they did, the price point would have gone up to $2k+. To me, that would be fine but I’m pretty sure there’d be a lot more whiners. Beautiful watch.
Thanks for stating the obvious…6L35 or 4S35 would have made it a home run! That is why I won’t be purchasing one with a pedestrian 6R movement.
I like so much this watch but for the same money it's Made in Svizzera ,Golden Hours!
37mm, too small for my wrist but it is a very nice watch.
It's the same movement as an Alpinist, which everyone adores. Jeez
Oh man I want the red dial of this baaaaaad. ♥️ 🍒
I need that bracelet for my Snxs75 😩😀
Nice size: the price not so nice.
Yes
love the double seiko logo. Wish they kept it with the GS...
would like to see other color models in this line
Overpriced? Yep
Thank you BW
Damn, need to start saving again 🤔
An odd move. An odd business move. Hard to fathom how consumers will respond to this.
3hz movement given for swiss high beat price
37 diameter case with a 12.3 height is a hard pass for me. Seiko, GS, Omega, and now King Seiko are always delivering watches that are too thick. This should be 10.3mm tall.
You really need to try it on your wrist. It wears like 10mm thick. Forget about the spex... I wear formal shirts and this watch disappears under the sleeve.
For this price why 6R not 6L movement.
Change for the better movement... This will be more expensive.
6R has no place in a King SEIKO in my opinion.
This is considered a dress watch? IDK, I can see it being a sport watch.
too small
I wouldn’t buy it with 6r35 movement
I like it a lot, I have one from 1966, KS-449990
The real King
Toooo thick to be called a king seiko, wont even get into the movement. I have a vintage king seiko and love it. I would not waste money on this.
SKX
I'd rather get an overpriced Seiko than an overpriced Rolex 🤷♂
I say give me both lol
Seiko being Seiko...
i mean its nice but looking at it i totally assumed it cant be more than 300$....1700$ !!!! 💩🤔🤦🏽♂....how bout NO
lol look up Grand Seiko and Credor. Be sitting down when you do it
@@BruceWilliams oh im aware..
Big links no micro adjust no thank you.
Yup...definitely overpriced.
I don t like this grand father watch(i m 64 years old) not vintage....old old old style