Is Nidoqueen ACTUALLY the BEST Pokemon in Pokemon Red/Blue?
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2022
- Remixes by: @MyNewSoundtrack ( / @mynewsoundtrack )
Edited by: SimplyAJ ( / simplyaj )
Complete Playlist: • Kanto Solo Challenges
Rules and Explanations
Rules: (1) Only use the one Pokémon in Battle, others for HMs are fine. (2) No Items in battle (3) No Glitches* (4) Set Mode (5) No saving in the Elite Four (6) No evasion moves
Badge Boost "Glitch" Explanation: When you collect odd numbered badges the game boosts a stat by 12.5%. Brock gives ATK, Surge DEF, Koga SPE, and Blaine SPC (in game text is wrong). When any of your stats are modified (even by you using a move like Withdraw, or your opponent using Leer) the badge boosts are re-applied. So If you use Swords Dance, you also gain *an additional 12.5% in Speed/Defence/Special (on top of the 12.5% you were supposed to be getting). When you level up, the game corrects this error, and only the non-glitch 12.5% remains. Because of how difficult it is to avoid, I've allowed for it to be exploited, since opponents will spam Leer/Growl anyways, and this way battles are less random. Red/Blue are extremely buggy, so there's always going to be some glitches present, and because of how unavoidable this one is, it is allowed in runs, and considered more like a special Generation 1 mechanic as opposed to a glitch. 
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In relation to the dual-Pokémon/single-Pokémon episode question, I much prefer single episodes. The Nidoran double header was fine, but the separate videos for Nidoqueen and Nidoking are the way to go.
Also, Jrose- you committed to a month of daily videos. We understand if you need to stretch it out a bit 😛
I agree. I can see a double Nidorin@ feature working, but the king and queen def deserved their own episodes.
I think jrose has it right, the nidos were made to be basically identical and it makes sense to directly compare the small details and I think the mid evos could easily share a vid but the final evos are different enough in approach and moveset that they deserve their own videos
The problem with doing them separately is that whichever one goes second has an advantage. I don't think JRose would've taught Blizzard at the end if it wasn't for the Nidoking run for example. Proteins were also a huge mistake with the King as EQ can one shot almost everything it's used for anyways.
Eh, it's tough. The two are so similar that whichever one goes second is basically getting a practice round
The double feature for the Nidorans was cute. Liked how that was handled. However, separating them is fine as well as you put it best: Gives both of them their time in the spotlight proper and shorter eps.
I agree with this. It was neat, but so was this, so it is ultimately whatever he thinks is the most fun to make and should be whatever makes for the best video or videos.
I think it worked well for Nidoran since they are both nidoran. Feel like it wouldn't be as unique to to it for the evolutions since they aren't just gender swapped of the same Pokémon (although I think technically speaking nidoran and nidoran are different Pokémon)
@@lizard1255 yeah, they're two separate pokemon in this gen, can't remember if that changed with the daycare and eggs.
@@theapexsurvivor9538 They never retconed it since that would change the number of gen 1 pokemon to 150 and dear god they weren't willing to do that even back in gen 2. What they did do though, is make it so that male and female nidorans can both hatch from eggs by Nidoqueen.
Ultimately I wouldn't think too hard about it since the pokedex also catagorizes a caterpiller, it's pupa, and the butterfly that emerges from that pupa as literally being different species.
Since you and I were both surprised that Pidgeot didn't use Agility in Silph Co, I looked it up. It doesn't know Agility during that battle.
You know speaking of which, I kinda wanna see a Pidgeot solo run. I think for the end of a 3 stage line it'll be pretty mediocre though not so challenging like Butterfree/Beedrill.
I definitely remember Jrose mentioning before that it doesn't have Agility until the rival fight before the Elite Four, so I guess he just forgot
@@CoffeeFlavoredMilk in Gen 1 Pidgeot is just a worse Fearow, and Fearow is just a worse Dodrio... kind of sad, honestly
@@DJFracus And rattata is just a worse Tauros, they are supposed to be, that's why they are route one.
@@gearfriedtheswmas Hell no. Rattata can beat the crap outta Tauros. He's over hyped. I used a Rattata once against a Tauros and hyper fang took it out quick.
you’re crazy for grinding all these runs, but don’t let me stop you
He's not crazy if he's getting paid for doing these. Even if he isn't making much it's nice to see someone doing something he like rather then being stuck at a job he doesn't like.
Edit: seeing his view counts he's making pretty good money grinding these runs.
He recycled a few of his old runs
@@kevingarth6682 yeah, wouldn't be surprised if he's pulling 60-70k a year doing this
@@michaelbugliosi735 I mean, I'm fine with that. We enjoy it, he gets a living. Good trade
Hey-I just met you, and this is crazy,
I like the single pokemon runs better. Duet runs are fun, but I can just watch two episodes back to back if I'm interested.
"Poliwhirl might make it to the Top 5 if you can believe it" yeah considering Poliwag was able to do MINIMUM BATTLES SOMEHOW I believe it
yeah and Poliwhirl is even better, plus it can learn even more tms including fighting but doesn't have the psychic weakness which really hurts Poliwrath.
@@jjay2771
Not to mention Poliwhirl is much faster than Poliwrath, that’s probably gonna be the deciding factor.
Poliwhirl: Is faster, learns Amnesia and Hydro Pump
Poliwrath: More BST (but sadly a lot of it in Atk and Defense, two less useful stats), has bodyslam from the beginning and not from the S.S. Anne - but doesn't learn any additional TMs because even Poliwhirl learns earthquake and submission.
Poliwrath's additional fighting type gives it:
additional resistances to bug, dark and rock... when you basically never meet rock and bug type moves and dark type moves don't exist. Not to mention you should be able to wash away any rock type move user anyways.
A fighting STAB, a type useful against normal, rock, ice, steel and dark... of which two don't exist yet, one can be dealt with water moves, and ice is solely used by Lorelei, and the fighting type move it can use is submission, which is just horrible.
It also gains 3 weaknesses, flying (which is ok aside from champ's pidgeot), fairy (doesn't exist yet) and... oof, Psychic. Ofc you have the usual suspects just softlocking themselves, but otherwise, being weak against the best type in the game always is crippling.
Fighting type really simply isn't that good in gen 1, and the things Poliwrath gains seem rather small, and the things it loses seem brutal.
Poliwhirl vs. Poliwrath is the one time I am downright sure that the further evo will be worse than the lower one.
@@rainpooper7088
Jrose saying "hey everyone how's it going" it the best part of my day
Wow that's depressing.
hahahaha. Hilarious! 😊
I’m very much enjoying the month of jrose!! Thank you for doing this
What happiness it brings me to refresh youtube and see a new jrose video. I love your content, my man. Take care of yourself, you're one of the few channels I watch every single video of, anymore.
Same here.
Right? It scratches a pretty specific itch I didn't know I had
I’ve not even watched the video yet but all I know is that “The month of JRose11” is what RUclips was made for
Can’t wait for the Rhydon run. It probably won’t be for a while but Rhydon is fascinating in that it’s a physical attacker and gets almost all of the good special moves, and even better, gets rock slide early
It has no Special whatsoever, so using special moves is a horrible idea. Not to mention it's extremely slow, and 4x weak to water and grass. Even neutral special attacks take a lot, so it'll take lots of overleveling to win with it.
@@handanyldzhan9232 I'm pretty sure that's why they said 'fascinating', not 'good'.
@@ArloMathis It's not even enough for "good" when everything is going against it.
@@handanyldzhan9232 Again, I do think that was the point of the statement. It's a weird design choice that they gave it all the good special moves with no stat to use them, and the original comment was saying the run would be interesting to see because of how terrible it is, I assume. Possible early game progress due to Rock Slide, but a hard falloff.
@@ArloMathisRhydon does have some very noticeable things going for it. Not only is its physical bulk really good, but it's actually the strongest physical attacker in the game thanks to having STAB on Earthquake and Rock Slide in particular, unlike Dragonite who has no physical STAB moves to make use of.
Now the low speed and special is absolutely going to hold it back, as its solid hp stat isn't going to be enough to save it from something like a 4x super-effective Hydro Pump, but I do think it will perform better than one might expect.
Statmie starting with water gun for brock is massive, and then thunderbolt after surge is just fantastic. If starmie could learn thunderbolt or psychic prior to misty, I would say it would be almost if not just as good as mewtwo
Can’t learn physicic prior to Misty
@@aceclover758 Yeah, that's why the original poster said "if" Starmie could.
I think starmie can beat mewtwo
@@robertwolff3580 I'm almost inclined to agree due to the water stab, but then I just remember hoe absurdly titanic mewtwo's special is and realize it just one shots things that are weak to water anyway. Mewtwo is just on a whole different level.
@@robertwolff3580 it's going to be too slow on the post-Brock pre-Celadon part of the game
I'm living for the Queen vs. Charles naming shenanigans lmao
That final battle was a real rollercoaster for sure. Also I am kind of curious how Lickitung would do.. Mostly because I barely ever remember it even exists. It seems to get decent TM access at least, while being a single form Pokémon with a more defensively leaning stats than offense.
I’m curious about lickitung too, it’s actually got slightly better special than attack and it is one of those normal types that inexplicably learns stuff like thunderbolt and fire blast, and it gets earthquake.
Stats really do suck though, it’s lower than a lot of midstages including the starters
For most of my childhood I thought lickitung was a gen 2 pokemon...
@@Laezar1 it would make sense to think that. It’s not available in the wild in R/B, only with an in game trade (and why would you trade a strong Pokémon like Slowbro for a lickitung?). I thought it was in the safari zone but it’s only there in the Japanese blue. And in yellow it’s in cerulean cave. But in gen 2, it’s more accessible in the wild
I used to think Slugma and Skarmory were new to Gen 3
@@ClaraFinn slugma isn't gen 3??? I knew skarmory was gen 2 cause it's fuckin' cool and I always seen it as the embodiment of steel type. But slugma I was certain was gen 3 (there are so many everywhere in that generation too)
@@Laezar1 Yeah it was from gen 2. It was just one of those gen 2 Pokémon that you could only get in kanto for some reason.
Skarmory was silver exclusive and I only had gold version. Mantine would be the gold equivalent, but that wasn’t in Hoenn like Skarmory was. If it was, silver players might’ve assumed Mantine was gen 3
Thank you for all the videos! I love your series!
It really does show how much a status move against can make the difference against Brock. Great job Nidoqueen!
I've been sick at home for almost 8 months now and your videos always make my day. Keep on the great work my friend =]
Greetings from Bavaria
You said this month has been crazy for you, I hope you're enjoying doing this as much as I (and I'm sure the rest of us) have watching them. These are fantastic! I hope you're well and I hope you get a well earned rest once you've finished the month of videos :D
22:34 - LMAO your excitement from the Freeze was funny AF!
I love how all of the Alakazam users in this run was just allergic to click Psychic.
Crazy how you're able to keep the quality and energy so high with these daily uploads. Great work!
As i like having your videos on at work, more quality content the better. Keep 'em separate. I love the comparisons. Always top notch stuff, keep it up
Loving you doing so many of these runs back to back to back, hope you're doing well!
Early enough that RUclips still saw no views. Love these videos btw, putting one on and watching them after a day of work has been a ritual for the last few months.
Loving this montage of videos you’re putting by out, love your content Jrose :)
You have absolutely helped make my November and December. Thanks, dude.
I agree 100% with all your thoughts on the single pokemon challenge videos (with exceptions of course like the emerald nuzlocke awhile back).
Something about having the one pokemon from start to finish and then being able to determine its ranking on the leaderboard is a great formula for these kinds of series.
Anyways keep up the great work man! Month of Jrose letsgoooooo!
Bro, thank you so much for this content-flood! You’ve been a part of my daily routine for such a long time now 👊
Stay safe brother and keep it up ✌️
This run is crazy for us too=)so many videos! Thank you kindly for all of them=)
I love this month of Jrose!!! Thank you. Also I like the single videos better. It was nice that you did nidoking and nidoqueen close to one another though.
Yes! Yes! Yes! I was looking forward to this ome! Keep the videos up! ❤
Thanks for all the new content. They’re all good videos too!
You are such a legend for doing this month long thing. These videos are really helping me get through the worst time of year for me.
Jrose you are and absolute machine pumping out all these quality videos
11:11 love the multi elemental/physical rival 4 wombo combo❕ YAS QUEEN❕
I must say, the daily videos this month have been of the utmost quality. I enjoy the challenge variety!
I love the fact you mention Poliwhirl, not Poliwrath. Because Poliwhirl was one of the best competitive pokemon to use despite it being a 2nd form. That makes me very excited.
why? Is it just because of Amensia?
@@MotherBra1n The fighting type is a huge disadvantage in competitive gen 1 moveset wise, because fighting is often terrible but also because of Psychic types and those who can use the move psychic often being rediculously good before the special split. The benefit of a fighting type competitively would be against a Chansey or Tauros typically, or types like Rhydon. But the latter already gets smashed by Polwhirls water/ice based moves which are often better when paired with Amnesia. The former two both can learn thunderbolt and Chansey with physic prior to its special split is just a bad matchup. The boost in speed is not enough in gen 1, with crit chance included. to make up for this. Zapdos is also a matchup nightmare. It's less about the statistical difference, and more about what it "loses" by gaining them.
In gen 2, there are still arguments to be made that Poliwhirl is in fact better compeititvely. I think "Freezai"? Was a RUclipsr with a 2 minute video on the subject in you're interested in that as well. I'm sure Jrose will offer a great discussion on this as well!
@@Gungho73 that makes sense, especially competitively where electric, grass, and psychic would be super effective against Poliwrath with it's mediocre special.
For a solo run however where the AI is awful, the AI hardly ever use any powerful super effective moves, I wonder if Poliwrath's stats would still make it faster. You see Poliwhirl won't learn Amnesia until level 41.
Poliwrath starts with body slam and has a pretty good base attack. The biggest obstacle I see for Poliwrath that Poliwhirl can manage better would be Gyarados as Poliwhirl can badge boost which Poliwrath cannot (or just Amnesia then ice beam) but then Gyarados probably won't be able to do much to Poliwrath either, it has decent defense and should tank a hyper beam then finish it off with Body Slam.
Poliwhirls best move until Mt. Moon is water gun (and we saw how big of an issue this was with starmie) until it gets mega punch (a move with less power than body slam and with a worse base attack).
And whilst fighting types may be awful competitively they have a huge advantage in a solo run: Good AI makes Lance a complete joke. I mean Poliwhirl would probably sweep lance with a single amnesia but Lorelei's Dewgong could lower it's attack both with growl and aurora beam which might make slowbro, Jynx and Lapras kind of annoying.
I could be wrong, I guess we'll wait and see but I feel certain that Poliwrath would outpace Poliwhirl until Poliwhirl learns Amnesia and that might be enough for it to win a solo race.
Solid arguments on both sides here, and an interesting read! I can't believe I'm still learning new things about old Pokémon 22 years after getting my first game..
It also just wasn't because of what he said, but also because Poliwhirl actually has 20 more speed than Poliwrath.
Almost at the halfway point JRose! You're doing good work and I think you can keep it up for another 2 weeks!
"A *fair* bit smoother"
"fair bit" meaning significantly. Not a little, but also not a lot, but worth mentioning.
Loving all the videos, thanks for posting
I like the Trainer and Rival names 😄 (It was also really interesting to see this run compared to the recent Nidoking one, especially with the speedrunning elements)
i like the amount of content you've been releasing lately
Keeping me sane with your videos while i have covid. Thank you😊😊😊
I personally like the single episodes better, but then I also really love the 1hr+ videos. It never gets old hearing you explain everything, and I like seeing how you handle the game with a specific pokemon.
Damn, you're pumping out that content! Well done!
Hi quantity, low quality. He pays children in China to play the game and he just narrates
I am so happy you are popping off this hard with the daily vids. I can only hope your sanity is still there
love these videos bro keep it up
Haha, great thumb nail! Absolutely loving all the content, keep up the good work!
You're videos are seriously so much fun to watch!! Would you do an Arbok run? It's one of my favorites and gets overlooked a lot of feel like. Thanks
Always enjoy the content & prefer single pokemon episodes. Thanks for the consistent uploads!
Lol fair bit smoother. Just has surgery today so month of jrose is timed perfectly! Ty for your hard work
Im gonna be so sad after this month ends, thanks for all the good work!
Jrose is a MAD man! Love the daily videos
I see you’re getting *A LOT* of views on these videos so I sincerely hope you’re absolutely raking in the dough. After all of the work you’ve been putting in you definitely deserve it. Thank you mate
Was waiting for this. Cheers.
never got to your vid that fast ^^ 26 seconds after upload
Between those Nidoking and Nidoqueen, your the real king for making one video a day!
To asnwer your question, for me, I love shorter vidéos since It remove the repetitive of some fights sometimes but your narration is so good that, even if they are longer, I will still watch them!
uff, i also watch scotts thoughts and you both put out a lot of content these days. have to watch it when i have spare time ^^
I love these videos. I wish there were more than 150 Gen 1 Pokemon so that you would never have to stop making them.
I think the single combined episode for Nidorans was absolutely appropriate and I think in the spirit of those Pokemon. I also think it made sense at the time given your insane upload schedule then. For middle stage evolutions, I'm really curious how you're going to do them since they are kind of similar to two Pokemon and there's a fair number of them to get through. I also kind of prefer the shorter videos as hour long odyssee's where half the video is the same six battles is fine every now and again, but can be a little much if it's constantly. These short and sharp videos are fun.
I also got a real frenetic energy in this video that was so cute to see.
I prefer single videos. Keep it up JR! I'm enjoying the full month of vids :)
I can't deal with how good it is to have a new Jrose video every day!
I must have missed the Nidoking video. The last one I saw was Weedle, and Nidoqueen is a refreshing change of pace!
Nidoking was the one before Weedle.
When i hear "middle Evolution" i also hear "kadabra Is the new gastly/Mewtwo"
I love your videos man. I even started trying the same challenges on my own. Working with Dugtrio myself on Pokemon Blue! Loving the challenges! Please do like Magneton or Vileplume next??
MAD LAD respect levels here! This must be maddening to be "weezing" this badly to a critical freeze VS exeggutor. Also funny since the Winters approach as well :3
High quality content going for a pokémon at a time instead of putting 2+ mons in parallel
Prefer single episode for each Pokémon.
Thank you so much for these !!
I actually cannot comprehend Nidoqueen's back sprite. Like, what am I even looking at lmfao
Tou are on fire. I still can't believe you re doing a full month
theres a mew under the truck by the S.S. Anne, way better stats than Nidoqueen and Nidoking
loving this and your content. I'm still holding my breath for you to do a Farfetch'd run and prove to the world why he's the best Pokemon of all time. Please do that soon so I don't pass out 😵
I don't see how not healing saves a ton of time. It takes like 15 seconds of in game time to heal. Being out of PP and taking a lot longer in battles takes much more time.
So that's why Rival 3 was in the Pokémon tower. At 7:20 you squashed his Raticate to death, so he laid it to rest. LOL! I love these videos. Keep up the great work JRoae.
Vid is kinda old but if you do see this Jrose. I like the long episodes, around an hour. I know its more editing for you and commentary. But its cool to see a lot of what you did; your victory's and loses and how you over came them or the clutch luck, and your insight and comedy that you add to it all. I like seeing how Pokemon I never used fair. I was heavy into Pokemon back in the Gameboy Pocket/Color/Advance/SP days with my friends. So its cool to see someone still smashing on what started it all.
Disagree. the 20-25 min episodes are the better length IMO
The way you do your videos, I trust your judgment. I'll watch pretty much no matter what!
Another great video Jrose!
Great episode!!
I like how you split it up! I like the longer episodes though but certainly I like how you split it all up!
Love the amount of content we’re getting
As far as splitting up episodes do what makes you happy I just enjoy the videos you make
The Mega Man X style remixes are so good, I love those games so much, just as much as pokemon.
This was indeed an interesting run. I personally always liked Nidoqueen just a bit better than Nidoking since it does have the extra defense and hp which Nidoking doesn't have so I honestly thought it would give it the edge in this Solo run. But anyways! I actually really preferred this style over the Nidoran male/female double video you did in the past. It just feels more focused and more fun to watch even though I liked that video too. Anyways keep up the amazing work as usual Jrose! I can't wait to see more of your awesome content this month!
Are there any early pokemon you might want to revisit that you think might have a significant improvement from strats you've learned from this series?
Covered it in the Blastoise episode- no, he does not want to revisit any of them.
The YAAAS QUEEN in the thumbnail killed me. Can't wait to watch this one, Jrose!
Fun video as always! Personally, I prefer shorter(ish) episodes of singular pokemon. I like the focus it puts on them, and the video doesn't feel like it's dragging.
IM SO HYPED FOR THIS JROSE MARATHON
I just noticed that you put the run number where the age rating would be in the thumbnail. That's really cool
Never heard you so excited in the champion battle. Bravo
I have watched roughfly half of your solo runs, yet they dont get boring, i hope you the best.(pd:im not an particulary good english speaker so in sorry for that)
Idk why I love the custom matching color palettes and background/frame so much, they're always so good looking! Even if it's a rather understated change
Wow what a lucky run, those freezes and that crit against the Alakazam after reflect were so clutch, great video Jrose
22:36 that reaction was just priceless, absolutely wonderful. XD
So far been loving this constant video influx, but remember that first and foremost we want you to suceed and be healthy, so dont overdo it to much if it means stressing you out and stuff! Also as always, great video and great run!!
That clutch freeze. Wow. What a run!!
Queen/Charles for the names continues proving your names are just as S-tier as these runs!
The Mega Man X version of your soundtracks is awesome lovely collab
I was wondering why I could never find you in my subscriptions....I wasn't subscribed! I've watched so many videos of yours too
Just a heads up: there's a spoiler in the way you present the list at the end. The ranks are already adjusted (4 SKIP 6), so you can tell Nidoqueen will be 5.
Love the videos!
You sound so much better, hope you are alright :D
I love seeing how the music has evolved over the course of this series.
Great job Jrose and I forgot that special was one stat