Did Jalen Hurts outplay Patrick Mahomes in Super Bowl LVII? | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST

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  • @FirstThingsFirst
    @FirstThingsFirst  Год назад +18

    Check out Club Shay Shay with Shannon Sharpe: foxs.pt/shayshay

    • @kennyray1573
      @kennyray1573 Год назад +2

      Both Played great however J. Hurts broke NFL QB records but coaching won the game

    • @darylritchie2278
      @darylritchie2278 Год назад

      What he did was show off his noodle on the last play of the game with that 35 yard hail Mary, get off his nuts he sucks

    • @delawareperformancetrainin307
      @delawareperformancetrainin307 Год назад +4

      sorry Nick, Hurts is already better than Mahomes and he proved it in SBLII

  • @vortexathletic
    @vortexathletic Год назад +469

    Anyone look at Time of Possession? The ONLY reason Mahomes had less than 200 yards passing was because of how long the Eagles would hold onto the ball on offense. Chiefs usually scored more quickly. Eagles had 21 minutes T.O.P. in just the first half. Credit to Philly for that tho

    • @vortexathletic
      @vortexathletic Год назад +14

      Also, I think what Chris was getting to was someone like Nick Foles who had a great playoff run one year. I agree that the second best QB is either Burrow and Hurts, but we do need to see more

    • @So_Oneal
      @So_Oneal Год назад +1

      For some odd reason the sore losers creating narratives never mention this....

    • @andrewchapman2733
      @andrewchapman2733 Год назад +24

      Exactly.. kept mahomes on sideline with long drives.. chiefs couldn't get the ball, let alone in a rhythm. Eagles deserve credit for that, but that's more of a strategy thing then hurts playing better than mahomes. I feel like in one night, hurts went from underrated to overrated real quick 😆

    • @bcinkc
      @bcinkc Год назад +24

      A defensive scoop and score makes that stat somewhat misleading. That takes away a chance for time of possesion. Same for the long punt return.

    • @GurtonBuster07
      @GurtonBuster07 Год назад +5

      @@andrewchapman2733et’s not act like the chiefs wasn’t on the field because the defence scored 6 points for the offence. That was the sole reason for the possession time difference

  • @rickybucheli4264
    @rickybucheli4264 Год назад +183

    "Where's the Bills' back-to-back semi-finalist banner" at the end😂😂😂
    I'm a Bills fan but that was too funny

    • @isasooner5
      @isasooner5 Год назад +2

      I feel you. If my team the chiefs were being made fun of like that I'm the type of person that would laugh too!

    • @edgybravo4287
      @edgybravo4287 Год назад

      😂

    • @johnnybeatmaker330
      @johnnybeatmaker330 Год назад +1

      Nah frl Broussard makes him seem like there colts back in the day. Winning one when pats have an off year. Ijust don't see it

    • @20Javon10
      @20Javon10 Год назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @su1-tin652
    @su1-tin652 Год назад +209

    Im with Brou on this one. The Fumble for a score is literally the ONLY reason I can't say Jalen outplayed Mahomes. But he threw lasers the entire game, and had ice in his veins

    • @sidc5131
      @sidc5131 Год назад +11

      It's amazing how one little mistake and snowball into a bigger one. They were 3rd and 1 and primed for a QB sneak for a first down. Then the false start penalty pushed them back and he fumbled. They go from potentially 21-7 to 14-14. To his credit, he came back and immediately made it 21-14 on the next drive.

    • @hua..
      @hua.. Год назад +9

      yeah, he was unbelievable, but at the end of the day that fumble cost them literally EVERYTHING

    • @cameronbursey4940
      @cameronbursey4940 Год назад +4

      @@hua.. defence cost em

    • @poundtrader1414
      @poundtrader1414 Год назад +8

      @@hua.. They went up by 10 after the fumble, it was the defense

    • @Hibbidyhai
      @Hibbidyhai Год назад +8

      If Jalen doesn’t fumble that ball he would have been Superbowl MVP and the Eagles would be the champs. But its not his fault the Eagles lost. The defense let him down. The only way to stop Mahomes from killing you is to get relentless pressure and take away the deep passes, and the Eagles couldn’t do that. On a bad ankle Mahomes never got sacked.

  • @SclountDraxxer
    @SclountDraxxer Год назад +54

    OMG. I wasn't expecting the a new QB ranking.🤣💀

  • @light_skit
    @light_skit Год назад +50

    Imagine if the guy laughing in the back was coach Eric Mangini 😂

  • @seriousbutfunny2
    @seriousbutfunny2 Год назад +47

    These two wonderful young and very talented QB's can hold their heads high. They put on a show for the fans in a Superbowl for the ages. No shade on Patrick I really think he is a person of high moral character, but a part of me was rooting for Jalen because so many people were questioning his talent.
    Talk about a person of high character, look how he handled getting benched in Alabama and the way he supported Tua, only to come back and step up. I do hope the Eagles pay him and he gets another chance and actually wins a Superbowl. And just for the optics alone I would love to see him and Tua play against each other in the SB.
    Anyway, a BIG CONGRATS to the Chiefs. Way to go!

  • @flatutlencetheunending
    @flatutlencetheunending Год назад +32

    will never forget the 80 yard TD greg jennings got with a broken leg. He put the team on his back tho

    • @renzredona4543
      @renzredona4543 Год назад +1

      And how he told his team to run the slot route because of Troy Polamalu. Rodgers should credit Jennings for carrying him in that game lmao

  • @TruSavage62
    @TruSavage62 Год назад +168

    Jalen has made incredible throws all year. Glad the rest of the world finally got to see how much work Jalen put in to become a great passer.

    • @tysmith2138
      @tysmith2138 Год назад +6

      Exactly! The media goes on and on with this bs narrative about Jalen Hurts but have never watched the games! He was great at OKL! Came in #2 in the Heisman! His first game against the Saints in his rookie year you could tell he was going to be a great QB!

    • @bflex89
      @bflex89 Год назад +4

      Yeah he was unbelievable. I did not think he was that good, I'm going to be honest. I'm not ashamed to admit I'm eating humble pie

    • @unbrokendredgen4160
      @unbrokendredgen4160 Год назад +2

      And he played with a bum shoulder!!!

    • @johnnybeatmaker330
      @johnnybeatmaker330 Год назад +2

      My boy turnt up this year. He's the reason we were winning in the first place

    • @delawareperformancetrainin307
      @delawareperformancetrainin307 Год назад +7

      sorry Nick, Hurts is already better than Mahomes and he proved it in SBLII

  • @syahminizam4179
    @syahminizam4179 Год назад +26

    Man!!! these guys are just amazing, not only they're fun; they're real and the qb tier is just hilarious! love when greg jennings joins the show!

  • @kurtisgibbs6698
    @kurtisgibbs6698 Год назад +185

    When a guy only has one incomplete pass in the second half, it’s pretty hard to say anyone outplayed him. He played perfect

    • @joetravieso3542
      @joetravieso3542 Год назад +27

      and that incompletion was a throw away

    • @gregorydunston2952
      @gregorydunston2952 Год назад +34

      But if u watched that game, Mahomes was having guys run WIDE open pretty much the entirety of the game. That’s not his fault but the level of difficulty of some of the throws Hurts made was way higher

    • @normbatchelor7403
      @normbatchelor7403 Год назад +4

      There are two halves.

    • @WeMissDimebag
      @WeMissDimebag Год назад +8

      He did but Reid and the other coaches made the game incredibly easy for him the 2nd half.
      Ran the ball really well, huge punt return, never under pressure, guys wide open.
      Patrick is great. He was great yesterday too. But the difference between the two halves was Andy Reid and his staff.

    • @dimitrythomas4158
      @dimitrythomas4158 Год назад +8

      You’re pretending Andy Reid didn’t scheme open wide open receivers

  • @lavishtalks1708
    @lavishtalks1708 Год назад +71

    Wildes telling Nick that Mahomes performance was Jimmy G-esque is elite trolling 😂😂😂

    • @Lindsay-John
      @Lindsay-John Год назад

      what time mark was that?

    • @johnnybeatmaker330
      @johnnybeatmaker330 Год назад +9

      Wildes was right though. If mahomes had lost nick wouldn't say he outplayed jalen.

    • @lavishtalks1708
      @lavishtalks1708 Год назад

      @@Lindsay-John Around 4:30

    • @lavishtalks1708
      @lavishtalks1708 Год назад

      @@johnnybeatmaker330 True

    • @JesseWilliam95
      @JesseWilliam95 Год назад +3

      But it’s not true. Because Jimmy wouldn’t have won the game.

  • @guit4rjj
    @guit4rjj Год назад +12

    “Well, when they’re guarding the guys” 😂 wildes too funny

  • @jmcgee39
    @jmcgee39 Год назад +54

    Jalen Hurts was well on his way to being the Super Bowl MVP had they won it but to answer whether or not he outplayed Mahomes depends on how you look at the fumble that lead to KC tying the game at 14.

    • @TheBlackestKnight21
      @TheBlackestKnight21 Год назад +22

      even with the fumble he still outplayed mahomes brah. Box score wise and eye test wise , mahomes run game showed up. Hurts was the run game.

    • @kevinc8955
      @kevinc8955 Год назад +4

      @@TheBlackestKnight21 No…he didn’t. What he did was worse than a pick 6 because it was totally unforced.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD Год назад +3

      @@TheBlackestKnight21 Mahomes had the ball far less look at time of possesion and he had no turnovers, best SB passer rating ever and the better completion %

    • @TheBlackestKnight21
      @TheBlackestKnight21 Год назад +3

      @@RefundHD if you’re doing that hurts broke the record for all rushing QB stats since we’re just doing that. And yeah it’s easier to have a higher completion % when you’re average target yardage was lower than hurts was. Hurts still was 27/38 304 and you act like that’s bad or not still outplaying someone with a lower pass attempts. That’s like saying someoone going 25/35 for 400 is worse than someone going 16/18 passing for 200.

    • @jmcgee39
      @jmcgee39 Год назад +1

      @@TheBlackestKnight21 Did they say who had the rushing record that he broke? I don't remember them saying anything about the previous owner before JAlen.

  • @jaydeeppanchal1201
    @jaydeeppanchal1201 Год назад +8

    Greg is the best fit amongst all the guests. His suit game is also always on point.

  • @BeeKay2715
    @BeeKay2715 Год назад +5

    Idc what anybody says… TOP, flags, etc. Hurts played like the Super Bowl MVP! If the defense showed up even a LITTLE BIT, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Gannon didn’t have the defense ready in the slightest

  • @cheetosleopard9861
    @cheetosleopard9861 Год назад +8

    No serious person could say Allen belongs in that Burrow Mahomes conversation Hurts though Hurts does now

  • @northside4767
    @northside4767 Год назад +46

    Jalen a top 3 QB right now.

  • @petep5207
    @petep5207 Год назад +9

    There is no debate. Mahomes had possession only 24 minutes. 38 points. On "the NFL's best defense". Done. Finito.

    • @michael138
      @michael138 Год назад +2

      31 points. If mahomes defense didn't get 7 points he loses

    • @petep5207
      @petep5207 Год назад

      @@michael138 They were never gonna lose, my guy. The script was for them to win. I predicted it a week ago.

    • @dahnavonpippen6547
      @dahnavonpippen6547 Год назад +2

      @@michael138How do you bring up ifs and ignore: the chiefs doinked a field goal, the eagles were give a 3 and 14 on a non catch, and they bailed out of a second scoop and score on an obvious fumble. Literally not a close game if any of those things go the right way. You’re not coping with losing two championships in a year…

  • @Hibbidyhai
    @Hibbidyhai Год назад +16

    To looks at only the stats and say that Hurts played better is essentially penalizing Mahomes because his defense took a fumble in for a TD (skipping a chance for a KC offensive drive) and the special teams nearly took a return in for a TD, denying Mahomes another chance to rack up yards in a long drive. Hurts did play lights out, but he turned over the ball and Mahomes didn’t, and at the end of the game that was the difference.

    • @zayshairjourney5499
      @zayshairjourney5499 Год назад +3

      Mahomes made layups the entire game. Hurts was fitting balls into tight windows and going down field all game. AND was the only force in the run game. Mahomes is the better player, but Jalen played better yesterday. That shouldn’t be a difficult point to concede

  • @So_Oneal
    @So_Oneal Год назад +10

    When folk's favorite player doesn't win it's turns into Fantasy football stats lls; Pat 3 TDS and no TOs; very efficient game plus the clutch scrambles for 1st downs.

    • @TheBlackestKnight21
      @TheBlackestKnight21 Год назад +6

      Pats run game showed up and his coaches helped him out scheming wide open touchdowns for him , not his fault. Hurts run game didn’t show up and he had to carry it, hurts outthrew and out ran mahomes box score and eye test wise 1v1 he outplayed him. Chiefs outplayed the eagles 2nd half and reid outcoached Nick. But mahomes didn’t outplay him

    • @So_Oneal
      @So_Oneal Год назад +4

      @@TheBlackestKnight21 Fantasy football stats didn't contribute to the win and Pat did outplay Jalen when it mattered the most..

    • @jonpoetical
      @jonpoetical Год назад

      @@So_Oneal How did Pat outplay him when it mattered most? Hurts literally tied the game!

  • @CLB_Industries
    @CLB_Industries Год назад +40

    I think given the fact that the Eagles held the ball for 11 more minutes, of course Hurts has the higher stats. Mahomes played better with the time he was given, in my opinion

    • @valjohnson7112
      @valjohnson7112 Год назад +3

      as if he wasnt to blame for that rofl. it wasnt an accident. they had less time of possession because the chiefs went 3 and out multiple times.

    • @neWworlDmaN83
      @neWworlDmaN83 Год назад +9

      @@valjohnson7112 chiefs went 3 and out one time and had one 5 and out. Eagles went 3 and out two times.

    • @jasperegan3625
      @jasperegan3625 Год назад +3

      @@valjohnson7112 keep spreading false facts on every comment lmao 🤣

    • @delawareperformancetrainin307
      @delawareperformancetrainin307 Год назад +5

      we dont go throughout every game in NFL history and say, oh wait this team had the ball for longer, so they had higher stats. You are supposed to keep possession of the ball, give put your defense on the field. That's not the only reason Hurts outplayed Mahomes tho, he's just more talented

    • @jasperegan3625
      @jasperegan3625 Год назад +1

      @@delawareperformancetrainin307 lmao at "hurts is more talented"
      Nothing he's done so far has indicated anything to make that statement seem true

  • @legitdragon6202
    @legitdragon6202 Год назад +21

    Hurts played almost perfect, and it wasn't enough against Mahomes and Chiefs - Hurts fumble contributed to the loss despite the other positives. While people are weirdly disappointed in Pat's stats, Pat did what was needed to win when needed most, and it was a complete Chiefs team effort. It was being said the Eagles had the more 'complete' team, but it was the Chiefs that pulled it together and Eagles trying to do a one man show.

    • @mwami4280
      @mwami4280 Год назад +4

      You nailed it perfectly 👌

    • @Stevandoren1003
      @Stevandoren1003 Год назад +1

      The fumble gave Chiefs life. It was a huge play

  • @mickeyd6444
    @mickeyd6444 Год назад +31

    Yes, Jalen outplayed Mahomes. Jalen played magnificently. But it's a team game.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD Год назад +7

      If Mahomes had Hurts time of possesion he would have done just as much, 21-27, best passer rating in SB history, no turnovers

    • @Dizzle20062006
      @Dizzle20062006 Год назад +1

      Thank you!!!

    • @mickeyd6444
      @mickeyd6444 Год назад +6

      @@RefundHD Why didn't they have time of possession in the 1st half? Because they couldn't move the ball or the chains. Mahomes was spectacular in the 2nd half, and awful in the 1st half. Jalen was great throughout. That fumble killed them, and that was on Hurts alone. If you are going to give Mahomes credit for the 2nd half, don't you then have to blame him for the 1st half?

    • @Stevandoren1003
      @Stevandoren1003 Год назад +4

      Mahomes outplayed him with less time. He didn’t need that time. He did whatever he wanted. The Eagles offense got stopped when it mattered

    • @suv3534
      @suv3534 Год назад +5

      You can’t outplay someone with 0 turnovers especially when your turnover led to a potential 14 point swing

  • @iam_djdrip
    @iam_djdrip Год назад +3

    “Everything he says is a bar”
    *uncontrollable laughter from guys in the back* 🤣🤣

  • @zosoo7
    @zosoo7 Год назад +5

    Most impressive thing to me about Mahomes' performance is he stayed disciplined and wasn't tempted by the chasing the big play which is exactly what got them in trouble against the Bengals in last year's AFC championship game.

  • @conlanchastain3708
    @conlanchastain3708 Год назад +15

    Jalen was clearly the best QB yesterday. Mahomes needed that fluke Hurts fumble and a special team return essentially for a TD to even be competitive in that game. That’s not to say Mahomes was bad by any means, but Hurts was clearly the most impactful player for either team

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD Год назад +13

      21-27, best passer rating in SB history, no turnovers and had far less time of possesion than Hurts

    • @Stevandoren1003
      @Stevandoren1003 Год назад +4

      Mahomes was the best player on the field.

    • @OGSVN
      @OGSVN Год назад +2

      @@Stevandoren1003 mahomes was the best player, but he didn’t play the best.

    • @conlanchastain3708
      @conlanchastain3708 Год назад

      @@RefundHD sure, like I said he played fine. But he also threw for under 200 yards and accounted for 28 points. 21 if you don’t count his TD that started on the 5 yard line because of his Special Teams.
      The story going into the game was Eagles we’re better everywhere but QB. The actual game was the opposite of that. KC outplayed PHI in every aspect of the game aside from QB

    • @xcwilliams7980
      @xcwilliams7980 Год назад

      ​@conlanchastain3708 he would've just drove the field in got it regardless

  • @treychapo1898
    @treychapo1898 Год назад +61

    It was like watching rookie MJ vs prime MJ

    • @Ken-zh2br
      @Ken-zh2br Год назад +4

      Jalen hurts played better tho

    • @elijahgonzalez8450
      @elijahgonzalez8450 Год назад +5

      Nah a big turnover costed them he was close to perfect tho. He was outplayed when it mattered

    • @theclardys4836
      @theclardys4836 Год назад +9

      @@Ken-zh2br he literally lost a fumble for 6. Cancels out your argument

    • @Ken-zh2br
      @Ken-zh2br Год назад +2

      @@elijahgonzalez8450 how was he outplayed tho. Hurts had better numbers on the ground and in the air. If they had similar stats I’d agree the fumble would put Mahomes over. The reason the chiefs won is because the chiefs played better not because Mahomes played better

    • @kenneth9338
      @kenneth9338 Год назад +2

      @@Ken-zh2br yes this is tru but time of possession matters a lot the eagles had longer drives with more plays

  • @414Mufasa
    @414Mufasa Год назад +36

    I think the one with less time that still played great on one leg is the top performer

    • @npant14
      @npant14 Год назад +4

      3 rushing tds by a qb in a Super Bowl never been done enough said.

    • @jasperegan3625
      @jasperegan3625 Год назад +3

      @@npant14 only because not many mobile qbs have made it to the superbowl, let alone a team whose offense is built around the qb rushing

    • @stephenyoung2742
      @stephenyoung2742 Год назад +2

      @@npant14 FUMBLE like your reply!

    • @MaXiMoS54
      @MaXiMoS54 Год назад +3

      Jalen got carried by number one offensive line, so many first downs on QB sneaks

    • @gregorydunston2952
      @gregorydunston2952 Год назад

      @@MaXiMoS54 u do realize that Mahomes had the best pass blocking off line in the NFL this season right? Lol

  • @light_skit
    @light_skit Год назад +14

    Mahomes had a perfect game on one leg. Passing yards don’t matter, the score does.

  • @JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens
    @JustSomeGuyWithNoMaidens Год назад +41

    The turnover is what makes me say that Patrick outplayed Jalen. He took care of the ball and was excellent when it really mattered.

    • @jonpoetical
      @jonpoetical Год назад +2

      That turnover didn't have any bearing!

    • @TheJandRReptiles
      @TheJandRReptiles Год назад +2

      It had bearing. Eagles get that, go down and score and are now up 21-7. But, it was probably because that field was awful. Slippery and a mess. Too many times did I see players slipping all over the plaxe

    • @AYouTubeUser1
      @AYouTubeUser1 Год назад +1

      @@TheJandRReptiles It was 3rd and 6 when Jalen fumbled. They were going to punt. They would not have scored a TD that drive to make it 21-7.

    • @TheJandRReptiles
      @TheJandRReptiles Год назад

      @Timothy Short so they weren't converting all night? 3rd and 14. 4th and 1. You act like if they didn't get the 1st, but got 5 yards they wouldn't qb sneak it. Gtfoh lmao.

    • @itsjayswelly
      @itsjayswelly Год назад +2

      @@TheJandRReptiles it would've been 4th & 8 from their own 30. They would've punted and Mahomes would've scored. It would've been 14-14

  • @lanafelix8649
    @lanafelix8649 Год назад +17

    It's close between Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes it came down to Mahomes being able to lead Kansas City Chiefs to super bowl win.

    • @TheBlackestKnight21
      @TheBlackestKnight21 Год назад +3

      No he didn’t💀💀 Pacheco ran them back into the game bro!!! Mahomes was throwing short TD passes that were schemed up BEAUTIFUL. Nick S left hurts out to dry 2nd half and the eagles run game didn’t show up. Cheifs outplayed eagles but start to finish Hurts outdid mahomes box score and eye test wise

    • @CannedHam2479
      @CannedHam2479 Год назад

      Mahomes was Clutch.. Hurts CHOKED
      End of

    • @TheBlackestKnight21
      @TheBlackestKnight21 Год назад +3

      @@CannedHam2479 no he didn’t, hurts literally tied the game up at 35 and didn’t see the feild again until the hail mary. Pacheco ran them back into that game mainly and mahomes threw the short TDs which is what he was supposed to do. To say that Mahomes was “clutch” and hurts choked is LAUGHABLE analysis at best especially considering Hurts carried the run game and pass game. You clearly didn’t watch

    • @Stevandoren1003
      @Stevandoren1003 Год назад

      Mahomes was the best player on the field. Hurts played great but Mahomes controlled the game. He made plays when he had to. He got the ball 4 times and scored on everyone. Hurts and the Eagles got stopped twice. Once for settling a field goal and another they had to punt

  • @RealJRoyall
    @RealJRoyall Год назад +5

    I'm loving this new crop of QBs. From Mahomes to "the prince" 😂 even guys like Justin Fields or Kenny Pickett. A lot of exciting, dynamic young players. Gonna be fun watching them all develop

  • @GJ-is6sv
    @GJ-is6sv Год назад +62

    Pay Jalen $225 million

    • @LilRod2
      @LilRod2 Год назад +1

      Please

    • @Chiefswill3peat
      @Chiefswill3peat Год назад +3

      $750million

    • @PB4KC
      @PB4KC Год назад

      Terrible idea

    • @txivneebswafflesandshroom
      @txivneebswafflesandshroom Год назад +4

      Ruin your team lol idk why ppl would think he deserves more than mahomes. It’s not a one man game. Every QB that isn’t mahomes needs a reality check if they want to win. I don’t like the chiefs though lol but they are going to win a couple more bowls at this rate

    • @PB4KC
      @PB4KC Год назад +1

      @@txivneebswafflesandshroom exactly. Half of the team’s key role players that helped him get to there would be gone if he got paid that much

  • @the_one1001
    @the_one1001 Год назад +9

    I was actually thinking about Mahomes on one leg not being mentioned, as he actually leapfrogged Hurts after he got hurt 😂

    • @neetrab
      @neetrab 4 месяца назад

      Yeah, interesting they didn't talk about Mahomes P-E-D nuked leg.

  • @lifeforms7423
    @lifeforms7423 Год назад +4

    Hurts was great, but I do think that fumble that lead to the scoop-and-score definitely reduces his performance some. Plus Mahomes put up 31 points in like, 8 total drives.

  • @ethancooper4154
    @ethancooper4154 Год назад +4

    I think for sure Jalen was awesome and the box score is impressive, but context matters a lot. He had 3 rushing TDs within 5 yards of the endzone against a bad red zone defense. He put up a lot of passing yards in the intermediate field game before the game was on the line. Mahomes did all his work with a knife at his back and pulled through every time he was needed. I don’t think there’s a clear way to say one outperformed the other, so all y’all saying “it’s obviously so and so and how dare you disagree” go actually watch the game please

    • @OGSVN
      @OGSVN Год назад

      “he had rushing td within five yards” mahomes had five yard TD DRIVES lmao. you can’t use selective context - either use all of it or none of it.

  • @OGFlaks626
    @OGFlaks626 Год назад +16

    Mahomes is just clutch, game on the line close and time running out he did what he had too do too win and made big passes and runs with his legs when the team needed it 🫡👏🏻

    • @hez859
      @hez859 Год назад +2

      Hurts was pretty clutch driving them down the field with 5 minutes left and tying it up. Defense let them down

  • @jerraddennis2225
    @jerraddennis2225 Год назад +6

    If not for that fumble-6 i would have said yes he did outplay Mahomes. The only difference in this game was Mahomes didn’t have to be Superman. The D played good. O-line was absolutely amazing. Receivers played hard and blocked hard down field. Andy Reid dialed up an amazing game plan and called the perfect plays. Pacheco was an absolute monster. They played a great game considering the line on the game was Eagles have the better roster, Chiefs have the better QB.
    The ONLY thing that Hurts did wrong was that 1 fumble (which is HUGE). No bad passes, everything was on target. But when you give the other team 7 points when you could go up 14 going into the half, i can’t say you played better than the other QB.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD Год назад +3

      Chiefs had far less time of possesion, Mahomes stats are misleading

    • @jonpoetical
      @jonpoetical Год назад +1

      They still could have gone up 14, they kicked a FG instead!

    • @20Javon10
      @20Javon10 Год назад

      Maybe you was watching a different game but Hurts definitely outplayed Mahomes despite that fumble. We had the better roster overall and if it wasn't for that fumble, refs not calling flags against KC helmet to helmet hits and facemask, That slippery Turf then We definitely win so thank those sorry Garbage Referees and slippery field.

    • @jerraddennis2225
      @jerraddennis2225 Год назад +1

      @@20Javon10 my point is you can’t gift the other team points when the other guy has a perfect game essentially and say you “outplayed him”

    • @20Javon10
      @20Javon10 Год назад +1

      @@jerraddennis2225 Hurts outplayed Mahomes point Blank period. Vegas and those Refs wanted KC to win the championship. The slippery field, refs NOT calling penalties against KC where we should of clearly gotten 15 free yards and automatic 1st downs but that black referee with the glasses who took a picture with Mahomes on CBS loves Mahomes and made sure KC won and that pass interference at the end was bogus!!! Despite the Hurts fumble Hurts was the better QB and Eagles better team. Congratulations Cheater. Enjoy this one. I love Andy Reid and Mahomes nothing against them but the refs and Vegas ruined a great SB. Next years SB is Philadelphia's and we coming back to win the championship in Las Vegas next year whether we play KC, Cincinnati or Buffalo in the SB next year.

  • @brownsfan3290
    @brownsfan3290 Год назад +1

    Greg Jennings always makes this show better

  • @Kruz.Lee17
    @Kruz.Lee17 Год назад +4

    Mahomes played perfect in the second half and scored quick on every drive. Idk why it’s so hard to give credit where credit is due.

    • @rhondaoliver5305
      @rhondaoliver5305 Год назад

      EXACTLY! THAT SECOND HALF .JAKEN, HIS OFFENSE, I AND HIS DEFENSE DIDNT SHOW UP!! 😂🤣😂🤣🤣

  • @stevenodell4323
    @stevenodell4323 Год назад +2

    I wish we could all lay off the assertions one quarterback outplayed the other, in this or any game. They never step foot between the lines with the clock running. This isn't golf or tennis or ping pong. It's a team sport. But, I absolutely love this show. Best of its type out there now, by far.

  • @stephenyoung2742
    @stephenyoung2742 Год назад +3

    MVP and FUMBLE says NOOOOOOOOO!

  • @calebhobbs9539
    @calebhobbs9539 Год назад +1

    Well when they’re guarding the guys 😂LOL WILDES GOAT

  • @kibo1331
    @kibo1331 Год назад +5

    Greg Jennings should be on all the time. He’s so great. Solid analysis, great banter and a solid sense of humor. ❤

  • @brandongold7740
    @brandongold7740 Год назад +1

    How has time of possession not even brought up? So Patrick machines had a 93 completion rating and threw the one Incomplete away! The fact that he scored on ever drive in the second quarter does not make him a “game manager”

  • @BrotherlyBanter21
    @BrotherlyBanter21 Год назад +3

    That QB list is hilarious lmbooooooo

  • @mauricebrown7173
    @mauricebrown7173 Год назад +2

    Hurts only have two years in wait in see how better he gets and he's on Patrick Mahomes top right now period 💯

  • @theclardys4836
    @theclardys4836 Год назад +18

    Mahomes did what he HAD to for the W…. It’s not always about yards & completions. He stepped up every single time it was needed. Jaylen didn’t.

  • @brandoncomer6492
    @brandoncomer6492 Год назад +7

    Mahomes had almost a perfect passing rating and QBR. Mahomes was almost perfect given the amount of time he had the ball. The main difference between Mahomes and Hurtz was that Hurtz had considerably more snaps because of the fumble TD and the punt return.

    • @oblivionpro69
      @oblivionpro69 Год назад +3

      Andy Reid’s plays won that game, watch it again. Patrick did nothing but throw wide open layups all night

    • @mrb532
      @mrb532 Год назад

      Name one tough throw Mahomes made

    • @joshuamurelio6654
      @joshuamurelio6654 Год назад +1

      Cry Eagles cry 😂

  • @JuanTorres-lp2gy
    @JuanTorres-lp2gy Год назад +2

    "Mahomes on one ankle" That laugh is too much 😂

  • @YourBeastRoy
    @YourBeastRoy Год назад +3

    Hey as an dude from Philly I'm sad they lost but so pumped how good Hurts did and how he earned everyone's respect now

  • @kennethfountain6153
    @kennethfountain6153 Год назад +1

    Wow...Jaylen played great! Absolutely elite but the line that he outplayed Mahomes? That dog don't hunt. He played MORE THAN Mahomes. He played against a supposed lesser defense. He had #1 wide outs. He had a fumble which kept Mahomes off the field. MAHOMES found a way to win by playing within his team's Coach's plan. THAT, is what an MVP does!

  • @Fan_Takes
    @Fan_Takes Год назад +19

    Wildes painted Wright into a corner there

  • @dawnngray278
    @dawnngray278 Год назад +1

    I love over the top Nick😂😂 ..Best post game show!!!

  • @rtehcs000
    @rtehcs000 Год назад

    Nick is an absolute fool. You gotta love this show. Nick, Brew, Wildes with a little Greg G, Stink, and Coach sprinkled in is simply the best cast and supporting cast ruling sports media - and it ain’t even close.

  • @CalobAdamsInfamous913
    @CalobAdamsInfamous913 Год назад +6

    The only leading category Jalen had was yards but that’s not necessary outplaying someone. Mahomes was more efficient

  • @412yinzr
    @412yinzr Год назад +1

    Whatever QB THROWS more TDs and doesn’t turn over the ball and wins played better. Most of Hurts TDs we’re rushing, he’s a QB not RB. He also turned over the ball which lead to a TD. No he didn’t out play Mahomes. 2nd half of the game Mahomes only had 1 incompletion and it was a throw away. Passing yards mean nothing if they receiver didn’t get into the end zone.

  • @danielboone6631
    @danielboone6631 Год назад +3

    Did Jalen outplay Patrick? Doesn't matter, it's the final score that says it all.

    • @marceld8961
      @marceld8961 Год назад +1

      That’s what Greg Jennings exactly just said.

  • @benwilson287
    @benwilson287 Год назад +2

    How is Josh Allen better than Jalen when he hasn't seen a Superbowl yet?

  • @crayhack
    @crayhack Год назад +25

    How does Nick trash Jalen for the entire playoffs for doing exactly what he's praising Mahomes for? Jesus man

    • @ducekong7878
      @ducekong7878 Год назад +1

      They got him with that 1

    • @joshuamurelio6654
      @joshuamurelio6654 Год назад +5

      Because he fumbled the game away

    • @jonpoetical
      @jonpoetical Год назад +3

      @@joshuamurelio6654 He didn't Fumble the game away.

    • @EuthanizePitbulls
      @EuthanizePitbulls Год назад +5

      Didn't "trash him" in the slightest

    • @philwalters3579
      @philwalters3579 Год назад +4

      Nick is the Mahomes personal media fluffer, he seems very angry that Hurts already outplayed him and showed who is better and true MVP

  • @sirchi8731
    @sirchi8731 Год назад +1

    Talk that talk Nick Wright

  • @JusticeForPottsvilleMaroons
    @JusticeForPottsvilleMaroons Год назад +5

    Props to Nick about Jalen Hurts. Hurts won me over this season as well.

    • @rodgermiller8980
      @rodgermiller8980 Год назад +1

      Coming from a Chiefs fan all I heard was hes overrated and blah blah blah,I'm glad I got to see it for myself,Jalens always been a good qb,back in his college days with Oklahoma and then Alabama,he was always good,but hes high level good,dude can throw a dime,hes an awesome qb and yall should be happy you got him,gg btw,yall be back next year,and next year yall wont be doubted,guarantee that

  • @kcsniper1243
    @kcsniper1243 Год назад +2

    Im with Brou on the fact that We dont need to rush to crown Hurts the second be qb after one season. That just sets him up to fail. Lets make sure he does it again next season then we can talk about him verse Burrow. Lets remember Carson Wentz also had a MVP season that he only lost the mvp because he got injured. Then he fell of a Cliff. Joe Flacco had one of the best Post Season runs ever by a QB and then got Paid and fell off. Mark Rypien in his 4th year took the Redskins to a 14-2 Record, All Pro season and 4th in MVP voting. 2 Years later was out the league. I think Hurts has everything it takes to be a Star in the league i just hope the media doesn't ruin it for him.

  • @TitusConrad
    @TitusConrad Год назад +3

    Hurts only outplayed Mahomes because he had the ball for 45 minutes 😭 so of course he will put play him

  • @neilblackwood
    @neilblackwood Год назад +1

    The answer is no because he lost. Doesn't matter time of possession, yards gained, passes thrown, or any other stats. Hurts didn't out played Maholmes because he lost!!

  • @craigschultz9266
    @craigschultz9266 Год назад

    Nick is the King of Sports Comedy!!!

  • @jhazemusic
    @jhazemusic Год назад +3

    Mahomes had a passer rating of 99 and put up 24 points in the 2nd half. That's when it matters the most, and that's why he was the MVP of the game.

  • @brandonfinnerty215
    @brandonfinnerty215 Год назад +1

    Next year Jalen will have every opportunity to silence them for good… the eagles will see Tua, Allen, Mahomes, Geno, Stafford, Prescott twice, the 49ers just to name a few…

  • @Mahoota11
    @Mahoota11 Год назад +3

    "Well, when they're guarding the guys" - Wildes 🤣😂

  • @tapout6335
    @tapout6335 Год назад +1

    How can you say Hurts outplayed Mahomes! Hurts was stopped in the second half twice and only scored 11 points. Machomes scored in every possession. 24 points!

    • @neetrab
      @neetrab Год назад

      4:30-5:00 that's how

  • @Tdub2592
    @Tdub2592 Год назад +5

    No way y’all can say he outplayed mahomes when he literally just dropped the ball and gave the game away. Not to mention that wounded duck of a hail mary

  • @jamesbarnhart1232
    @jamesbarnhart1232 Год назад +1

    Hurts threw for 22 touchdowns and rushed for 13 touchdowns for a total of 35 touchdowns. Mahomes threw for 41 touchdowns and rushed for 4 for a total of 45 touchdowns in the 2022 seasons. When I see Hurts stats, I see a quarterback that’s not coming back to the Superbowl next year, if ever. Mahomes made 3 trips to the Super Bowl in a span of 4 seasons. You can’t ignore that fact, you just can’t.

    • @neetrab
      @neetrab Год назад

      Taking what the defense gives you is something you're fine with ignoring though? Why does Jalen have to throw for 500 yards every game and 500 touchdowns to get back to the super bowl? I'll never understand that one. Kirk Cousins threw for more and had more TDs regularly. When's the last time he went to the SB and won it? Hurts had 1 loss the entire szn aside from the refs giving the chiefs the win.

  • @sunman1509
    @sunman1509 Год назад +4

    Did he say Jalen Hurts have to show him a little bit more. 🤔 they just keep moving the goal post and now it's out of the stadium across the street in the parking lot 😆.

    • @abc_12333
      @abc_12333 Год назад +1

      1 year isn't enough. Look at Nick Foles now. Perfect example.

  • @ssbn401
    @ssbn401 Год назад +1

    I think that's fair - I would put Hurts and Burrow in Tier 2. Allen gets bumped down to Tier 3 with Justin Herbert and the like.

  • @imilly8179
    @imilly8179 Год назад +8

    Wildes is absolutely correct! All year we've heard how Hurts 180 yards passing and 40 yards rushing games aren't special. Now it's Mahomes and it's amazing.

    • @christianbrooks9155
      @christianbrooks9155 Год назад +4

      That completely lacks context.

    • @winssports4830
      @winssports4830 Год назад +5

      @@christianbrooks9155 no it actually doesn't lack context. It's literally been his argument. Now when Mahomes team showed up more than Hurts team did, and the coaching was significantly better oh nah it's all mahomes. Meanwhile with Jalen it's always been the team. Well the team especially the defense let Jalen down.

    • @imilly8179
      @imilly8179 Год назад +1

      @@christianbrooks9155 Nick has argued all year against Hurts for games exactly like that. Mahomes was "carrying" his team while Hurts was being carried. Kinda like last night played out. But in reverse.

    • @SycoticForeverNeverAF
      @SycoticForeverNeverAF Год назад +3

      Yeah no. Hurts did this against a terrible pass defense in KC. Mahomes carved up the #1 passing defense in football. We saw haw awful hurts was against top defenses so stop it.

    • @winssports4830
      @winssports4830 Год назад +3

      @@SycoticForeverNeverAF you can't call them the number one pass defense in football the way they looked. He was throwing to dudes with no one within ten yards of receivers. There was zero contesting.

  • @stephenyoung2742
    @stephenyoung2742 Год назад +1

    The FUMBLE says NOPE! Chiefs Defense plan let Hurts run! That 2 point conversion led to that short pass with 6 seconds to go! Good old shoulder injury!

  • @bptboy2
    @bptboy2 Год назад +3

    Glad Wildes called him out on that QB win thing. We’re acting like Mahomes lot it up out there. For the Chiefs to score 38 points and he only had 182 yards passing should tell you something.
    Love how nobody is talking about how dominant the Chiefs run game was yesterday

    • @stackonez7182
      @stackonez7182 Год назад +1

      Look at the time of possession. Philly kept the ball away from KC the whole first half.

  • @USALeonHeart
    @USALeonHeart Год назад +1

    Jalen was amazing last night. Scoring right after the fumble only makes it a 7 point swing instead of 14, he still gave the opponent 7 free points. He was the athletically more impressive player with the deep ball and all that . . . but Mahomes registered .52 epa/play in that game. He made zero meaningful mistakes.
    As somebody who loves flash and highlights and will often make the "outplayed the other QB" argument, this simply isn't the case of that happening. Hurts played nearly as good a game as you possibly could on that stage, but "nearly" just isn't enough against that opponent. The Eagles were the titans and KC were the gods of Olympus, and that was one of the best pro football games ever.

  • @gbmbg114
    @gbmbg114 Год назад +6

    Without the fumble, he BY FAR outplays Mahomes.. by far. Which is astonishing…. But with the fumble, I can’t say he outplayed him.. ball security is just too important and too big a part of playing the position.. however, he’s gonna learn from that and come back even better next season.. I’d love a rematch (or a few) between these 2..

  • @anthonybonomo5670
    @anthonybonomo5670 Год назад +1

    Did he outplay Mahomes??? Hurts had a fumble that may have cost his team the game! That does not make for a great game!

  • @KTPurdy
    @KTPurdy Год назад +9

    Nick dismissed Jalen and Philly all year, he was shown wrong.
    Kevin did a great job throwing the W argument in Nick face.

  • @salmodiespeak9712
    @salmodiespeak9712 Год назад +1

    Doesn't matter who outplayed who Patrick has the ring........!

  • @samuelgaona7196
    @samuelgaona7196 Год назад +4

    Mahomes reaggravated his ankle and played just as well as Hurts and didn't make any mistakes and Hurts did, it's definitely close but Mahomes did outplay him

    • @Jakery1057
      @Jakery1057 Год назад +1

      Mahomes wasn't hurt, that was all BS.

    • @jenniferaceste8823
      @jenniferaceste8823 Год назад

      ​@@Jakery1057
      Yes he was in the AFC Divisional Round vs. Jaguars by Arden Key. It was aggravated in the AFCCG & the SB.

  • @stephenyoung2742
    @stephenyoung2742 Год назад +2

    Sloppy field helped Eagles running game keep the ball longer! Talk about the fix right there! Fields have been over watered to help running teams!

  • @jaredrubino1889
    @jaredrubino1889 Год назад +3

    I love this show

  • @frankcastle7036
    @frankcastle7036 Год назад +1

    He fumbled for a TD. Brady threw for 500+ yards and lost vs. Foles.

  • @GentM2015
    @GentM2015 Год назад +5

    Mahomes 21 of 27 passing is about as good as it gets in the Super Bowl.

    • @RefundHD
      @RefundHD Год назад +1

      Best SB passer rating of alltime

    • @crokar5835
      @crokar5835 Год назад +1

      thats the factor, Mahomes didnt have to throw the ball 40 times. they had a run game they had a defense score they had a 65 yard punt return. you can say hurts had better stats but he didnt outplay him. stats dont equal performance. hurts lost a turnover untouched that immediately takes away his outplaying

  • @chrissummers3257
    @chrissummers3257 Год назад +1

    First of all Jalen was alright he threw for a TD and ran for one the other two he walked in didn't have to do much to get those, Mahomes had a better game

  • @andrewchapman2733
    @andrewchapman2733 Год назад +5

    Hurts went from underrated to overrated in one night... some of these takes are crazy

    • @neetrab
      @neetrab Год назад

      God knows Mahomes surely went to straight overrated as soon as he made his first start in the league.

    • @nxtro3882
      @nxtro3882 6 месяцев назад

      @@neetrabdo you think everyone is blind. Because yeah right out the gate everyone knew Mahomes was great because we have eyes

  • @johnnybeatmaker330
    @johnnybeatmaker330 Год назад +1

    Nick was trolling Broussard with the last question and he answered it ha. Allen flamed out in the division round and he can't stop defending this bs smh ha

  • @lavallebarlow2324
    @lavallebarlow2324 Год назад +5

    Hurts outplayed Patrick.

    • @CannedHam2479
      @CannedHam2479 Год назад +1

      Hurts CHOKED
      Mahomes was CLUTCH

    • @lavallebarlow2324
      @lavallebarlow2324 Год назад

      @@CannedHam2479 he threw for half the yards and had a better o line protecting him.Much better Coach As well.

  • @CuttinEJ
    @CuttinEJ Год назад +1

    The short answer is no. The Eagles HAD to do all that just to not quite be able to keep up with the Chiefs. And Mahomes was able to perform on an injured leg. I’m not trying to hate on the Eagles, but we’ve seen this before with Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson (though not quite as much) and even Kappernick. It’s great to have a QB that can move around and make things happen, but if that’s your goto, you’re probably going to get figured out. Using your QB as runner in the 1st option OCCASIONALLY can be a sneaky move. Doing that all the time means your running backs and receivers aren’t getting the job done and sooner or later using your QB this way will get him hurt. Jalen Hurts played a great game, but he didn’t outplay Mahomes.

    • @neetrab
      @neetrab Год назад

      I'm trying to understand this, "Mahomes had to play on an injured leg!!!" argument, like Jalen was 100% healthy 😂 Did the chiefs news media never mention to y'all that he played on an injured shoulder all playoffs long?

    • @CuttinEJ
      @CuttinEJ Год назад

      @@neetrab, no. As a matter of fact, no. Not only wasn’t it mentioned in the news, it wasn’t mentioned during the game. So my take away is that it must not have been a big deal.

  • @michaelr3583
    @michaelr3583 Год назад +3

    If you want to know how badly damaged Jalen Hurts' shoulder was, look at the last hail mary of the game. That thing only went 40 yards

    • @andrewsercer9538
      @andrewsercer9538 Год назад +5

      That was because his footing gave out, not because of his shoulder.
      Hurts attempted several passes longer than that last Hail Mary ended up going (through the air)

    • @stephenyoung2742
      @stephenyoung2742 Год назад +1

      @@andrewsercer9538 Chiefs hardly rushed was there a banana peel there! Gameplan was to let Hurts run like on the 2 point conversion and take hits and it worked!

    • @andrewsercer9538
      @andrewsercer9538 Год назад

      @@stephenyoung2742 no the field was super slippery. Players from both teams mentioned it. And I'm just passing along that I heard it mentioned that Hurts himself gave that very reason for why that last pass was so short.

    • @illynatic
      @illynatic Год назад +1

      He stepped on Kelce's foot

  • @clownkilla7003
    @clownkilla7003 Год назад

    It always cracks me up to hear the unseen crew members cackling in the background

  • @coachjayw33
    @coachjayw33 Год назад +5

    Nick redeemed himself for me here. He legit admitted he was wrong even in the joking tone it was but still admitted it. Unlike some other analysts... (cough cough Chris Sims) who can only live off of their previous opinions of the guy even though he has clearly shown them otherwise.

  • @d3vp131
    @d3vp131 Год назад +1

    It’s not about who makes the most good plays. It’s about who makes the most bad plays. The fumble returned for a TD killed them.

  • @Soundhypno
    @Soundhypno Год назад +6

    Mahomes was on one leg.

    • @kaza_family5950
      @kaza_family5950 Год назад +3

      He's walking around Disneyland right now he's fine

    • @CannedHam2479
      @CannedHam2479 Год назад +1

      @@kaza_family5950 Youre comparing strolling at Disneyland to playing QB in the NFL? I guess that means if Brady can walk around Disney he should unretire and play 5 more years!!
      lmaooooooo
      🙂😁😅😂😂🤣

    • @kaza_family5950
      @kaza_family5950 Год назад

      @@CannedHam2479 it's a joke genius.

    • @CannedHam2479
      @CannedHam2479 Год назад +1

      @@kaza_family5950 I was clearly joking as well, MENSA!!
      lmaoooooooo
      😀😂😄😃😅🤣

  • @Watchingvideoslikeu
    @Watchingvideoslikeu Год назад +2

    No way I can put Josh Allen above Jalen Hurts

  • @iiTzMoPZii
    @iiTzMoPZii Год назад +8

    Yeah he did… Reid won that game for the chiefs (and eagles D forgetting to play). Plus a little help from the refs is always handy

    • @CalobAdamsInfamous913
      @CalobAdamsInfamous913 Год назад +3

      So Reid wins with Chad or Alex?

    • @CannedHam2479
      @CannedHam2479 Год назад +2

      @@CalobAdamsInfamous913 or McNabb? lol

    • @iiTzMoPZii
      @iiTzMoPZii Год назад +3

      @@CalobAdamsInfamous913 yeah. Mahomes is elite, best QB in the league no doubt. But you’re telling me he did anything very special that game? He had receivers wide open all game, that’s scheme not Mahomes