The fact that Nick is calling himself ✌️blowing the whistle✌️ on the QB sneak just proves how SCARED he is of the Eagles and Jalen Hurts, ruining his Mahomosexual fantasy of Patrick Mahomes ACTUALLY becoming the next GOAT!! 😆🐐😆
All Jalen need is time. He’s had to overcome so much to get to this SB I doubt he’s just gonna fall off after this season. Humble dude with a desire to improve
These guys have become part of my routine and I love it! Just like chilling with my friends and having a good laugh 😃 hope this show doesn't lose it's identity!
Like these guys but new heights podcast has more chilling w ur friends vibe. This show still has a lot of hot takes and click baiting. But they do have hella personality
Then we should outlaw no look passes, and carousel plays. He sounds dumb. “What is the Eagles get really good at it”. So what. My man can’t stand the eagles being better at something than the chiefs. Lol
Out of all the Super Bowl losing QB's, I felt bad for Jalen Hurts the most. Throughout the season, he always had the right demeanor, said the right thing, and I admired his clear work ethic throughout. You can tell he wanted to win to prove all his doubters wrong. He obviously gave it his all that game, and that defense let him down.
@@dougdeveloper8850 Niners are a phenomenal team. Their skill positions are wild, but at some point you really need a QB. Jimmy G lost them a superbowl. If they had their current roster rn, and had Jalen Hurts they would be a dynasty
Jalen Hurts squats more weight than most of the defensive lineman in the league. The Eagles found the loophole in the sneak because the QB they drafted is just physically stronger than the linemen he's pushing against. Even if he didnt have Goedart or Brown pushing him, he'd still get the 1 or 2 yards he needs each time.
There was 1 instance in the SB where Jalen got stopped and AJ Brown pushed him 2 yd forward after getting stopped. But yes for the 99.9% of other times your right.
Hurts 2nd best qb in the league right now. Especially after the Superbowl in which he played the chiefs d better than burrow did while carrying the team on his back in when the defense no-showed. We also saw how bad the eagles looked at the end of the regular season when he was injured so the very least Hurts is top 3.
The only thing is hurts didn’t play well in other playoff games and he has the best oline in the league. I believe burrow is second but I respect your take
just because hurts lost to the chiefs a game after burrow did doesn't make him better than Burrow. Burrow beat the Bills, eagles beat daniel jones and half a quarterback
@@edwardmorgan3851 -- He benefitted from coaching with leads every week. Easy to get sacks when teams need to pass to come back. No Eagles fan is upset about this loss. Just hope they hire a legit defensive OC that isn't currently on the staff.
Its not the idea of a qb sneak in general, it's the scrum version w everyone pushing him in. They're gonna have to do something about it. It's practically unstoppable, and likely to increase injuries as more teams start incorporating it more often. The only chance to stop it is to have just as many def pushing back, but they can't cuz, unlike the off, they don't know thats the play.
What sucks about loving Nick Wright is the fact that I'm a die hard eagles fan. It's just so odd that while he doubted my team all year, then the chiefs beat them in the Super Bowl, how I ended up feeling better about it after hearing Nick be absolutely INSUFFERABLE yesterday and today
As someone who doubted the eagles in a sense it was a weird position to hold. What I mean by doubted in a sense was that I thought they may very well be as good as hyped, which they were, but it was hard to truly buy in because of who they played. Now obviously you can only play who you’re scheduled and there are no guaranteed wins in the NFL but it’s hard to truly know how good a team is if they aren’t playing the elite teams. Through history we’ve seen a lot of teams that have good records by beating weaker teams all season long suddenly crumble when they finally do play against elite teams in the postseason. I’m not saying they’re the same as those teams but a couple examples of teams that had great records for awhile and then slipped when they played tougher teams are the 2020 Steelers who started 11-0 and finished 12-4 and went one and done or my chiefs in 2003 who went 9-0 and finished 13-3 and went one and done or 2013 when they went 9-0 and finished 11-5 and one and done. They won a lot against weaker teams but then struggled against the better teams when they finally got tested. I think many of us wondered if that would happen with Philly. Realistically they didn’t face an elite team that tested them until the Super Bowl. The Niners would’ve been that team had the QB fiasco not happened. And if they’d beat the Niners without the QB craziness I think they’d have had more believers entering the Super Bowl. But unfortunately the Super Bowl was the first elite team they played and they proved clearly they were just as good as a lot of people said. I personally thought they would be really tough to beat but always had lingering curiosity since they didn’t play anybody elite yet where they truly had a test. And in a sense both sides were right. People who thought they were a great team were right - they took KC to the very brink and easily could’ve won that game. But doubters were also proven right a bit by seeing the vaunted elite defense get torched the entire second half. The pass rush that was so feared leading in to that game didn’t have a single sack in the game. So yes they were legit and an elite championship team that deserved to be there but at the same time some of how they were seen as elite, predominately their defense and pass rush, was shown to have largely benefitted from a season where they didn’t play any elite QBs or offenses all year. When they finally did play an elite offense and QB their defense got got absolutely torched. And what was more eye opening about it than what Mahomes did was seeing how much the run game dominated because the Chiefs aren’t a running team really at all. All season the chiefs ran the minimum amount to keep defenses honest against the pass but they never established the running game like they did in this game. When a team that doesn’t run the ball often averages iber 6 yards a rush that’s pretty wild to see when the defense they’re playing is supposed to be so elite like the eagles were.
To me jalen is top 5 he can either go up the list or go down but as of right now going into next season he is top 5 at number 5 and he can lose it fast or keep proving people wrong
This is why I think these lists are pretty stupid. Football is highly volatile and every year is different. They try to treat it like the NBA where players play 80 games and pretty much every year are ranked the same. Football is not like that. Trevon Diggs had 11 picks last year and 3 this year. That’s how much things change.
Let's be honest, Jalen is already the best QB in the NFL, his records and stats prove it, you don't see Mahomes doing what he does, its much easier for Mahomes under Reid's system
Jalen is most definitely top 5 right now but because it's mostly based off just 1 and a half seasons, it would be easier for him to fall out if he regresses a little or a couple other QBs rise up than a more proven commodity.
He fumbled when nobody was around him in the most important game of his life. Top 5 my A-. He’s a running back with a arm that looks like he had Tommy John surgery. Are u for real??? Lol
In real life, absolutely. But on this show Josh Allen is the worst QB in the history of the sport who’s hanging on by a thread. He’ll probably be released this offseason 😂
Herbert can't be proven not to be clutch if he's barely in the playoffs 😉 lol. I'm not even an Allen fan but yeah people putting Herbert above him is nuts.
The hate for Josh is insane. He has 5000 total yards 43 total tds to only 14 ints while having the 28 worst oline according to PFF. Gabe Davis lead the league in drops for a while. He must be in top 3 if not 2.
@Daniel R Gabriel Davis is the most overrated over hyped player I've ever heard of. He had one truly TERRIFIC game an everyone thought he'd b some legit option opposite diggs. Yea no. Ima bills fan through an through an IMO the weapon that should b USED MORE is Dawson knox. Josh did have an insane amount of fumblerooskies an while he makes SPECTACULAR plays like the TD he threw as time ran out against the dolphins b 4 halftime WTF Just cuz it worked out doesn't make it a smart decision. No options throw away take the FG. Idk man the team is so frustrating to watch there's my rant if ya read it thanks🙏
You’ve always been able to do it that style of sneak, the Eagles are just really really good at it.. And if you stop it once, now you’re behind the sticks
@@dillMANbaby not that I agree or think that it should be banned, but his concern was if teams can get close to a 3 yard average from it then you'll start seeing it on 1st and 2nd downs commonly not just on 4th downs and 2 point conversions.
@@dillMANbaby And it’s underrrated how much technique there is to it.. Like the pad level is immaculate, their QB is often the strongest guy on the field, their personal is perfect for it, and so many other teams get stuffed on QB sneaks
@@deanclark2703 It will never be used on 1st or 2nd downs because it is so taxing on the QB and OL and can lead to injuries. No team will risk this for a 1st down gain of 2-3 yards!
The hate for Josh is insane. He has 5000 total yards 43 total tds to only 14 ints while having the 28 worst oline according to PFF. Gabe Davis lead the league in drops for a while. He must be in top 3 if not 2.
@Joshua Hoerner most analysts think he is the second to third best qb in nfl. This is what he has done to earn that been in the playoffs 4 years in a row. Won his division 3 years in a row. Has been a top 5 producer in tds for 3 years. Made everyone forget that besides Diggs his offense has no good players according to pff. Had the 28th worst oline in the league and lead to a 13 and 3 record. Played this year with a elbow injury to his throwing elbow. No its true that he has not gone to the Super Bowl, but before this year, his defense has let him down in the playoffs every year.
@Lake Ozark REI how many superbowls has Hurts won? 0.. why because it's a team sport. Before this year the bills defense has let Josh Allen down in the playoffs every year. This is while having a bad oline ranked 28th by pff and having bad skill players besides Diggs. Hurts has 2 elite wr and AJ brown my be better than Diggs the best oline in the last 20 years arguably and a great TE. Josh Allen is better and 90% of the US believes it.
On the unstoppable QB sneak play...a lot of rule changes over the past twenty years or so have been in favor of the offense. So giving something back to the defense, taking an unstoppable play off the board, seems fair. Especially when it you can no longer sack the QB like you used to and they are looking at how you tackle under a microscope.
Geno went from dog 💩 to a very good qb , still can't believe that. He has the highest completion percentage in 2022 😲. If he continues that trend , he will be an elite qb , top 5 in the NFL.
He's obviously top 5 right now.. They ask these type questions after every game.. right? So he is top 5 right now and they can keep asking the question every week like we already know they are gonna do regardless.. The caveats from Broussard are absurd.. Just say it and own it if you still dont believe in him
@@MrRasheed7 i don't think requiring a larger sample size than 2 years is an absurd ask at all. Can't get much more micro than that before dissecting "top 5 performers of the week" or "top 5 of the month".Broussard DID give him all the credit and said he was top 5 clear as day. He just realizes it can and usually does fluctuate, as history proves EVERY YEAR. I'd say it's far more absurd to insist that Trevor Lawrence MUST be top 5, no question.
@@trevormatthews6518 They ask those questions in order to pigeonhole each other into an answer.. Top 5 (today) is inferred. Its a hot take show.. Dont sit on the fence and say you wanna wait 2 years when you are gonna be asked the same question plenty of times over the next 2 years Just change your mind when more evidence actually presents itself j/s
Jalen Hurts has demonstrated what hard work and staying focused on your goals can do. He didn't let negative media and the opnions of others keep him from focusing on HIS goals. Others should follow. I hate they didn't win because HURTS did everything to WIN!!..... HE really was MVP if the loser could have been considered .I know the MVP comes from the winner..
Still, the only knock on the cast of Burrow was the OL. Outside of that, the team was still really good so to say Burrow had “none of that” is a lie just to try and make himself seem right. To anoint Joe Burrow as top 5 last year and move the goal post for Jalen Hurts this season is sad. Just more media narratives questioning the throwing ability of African American QBs.
Chiefs fan here. Nobody hires Bienemy because they're not convinced that it isn't all just Andy's success. Bienemy also has a past. He needs to go to a less excellent offense and turn it into something great before he'll get serious looks for HC. He's a good OC and I would gladly keep him here, but those are the facts.
I think what gets lost is HC is not just about play calling he has a great relationship with players and they felt like he could run a team. I think they should have hired the bengals DC but Im just saying
@@eaglesman19 Well yea he didnt start of well last year but the players always seemed to like him and he is a high energy guy but Im glad he is gone I cant watch his defense anymore lol
Mahomes, burrow, and hurts the top 3 in the league. They the only ones who have that “it” factor. Dont trust any other qbs to put the team on their back
Lost a knee cap, won 2 SBs. Chiefs don’t need it. Lol they also rarely run their RBs up the middle in short yardage situations too. It was one of Andy’s first seasons when Jamal Charles suffered an ACL injury in Chicago on a similar play, which shortened his career significantly. Then 4 years later a similar play did the same thing to his QB. I think after that, Reid just realized that play just wasn’t worth it and there’s other ways to get that yard. Also, Nick has a valid point, and there’s a reason why that play was illegal for most of football history. Defense isn’t allowed to push guys up front, but the offense is. It’s an unfair competitive advantage, plain and simple.
@@philwalters3579 not even close to the same context. But regardless, it really doesn’t matter how you feel about KC earning it or not. At all. No one cares. They definitely earned it more than Brady’s tuck rule AFCCG lmao but history remembers one thing for sure: WHO WON THE SUPER BOWL.
Im no fan of Hurts but after this season, you can't leave him out of the top 5. I'd say he's third depending on how high ppl are gonna keep putting Allen up there.
Caleb Williams aside, Herbert is the worst QB on Nick's tiers. I understand the hype around his individual talent but at some point you have to win a meaningful game.
Bruh hurts took them down the field to make it 35-35 then his defense lost them the game he didn’t even get a shot to come and win it all or tie it but he did his thing man I can’t believe the hate he’s still getting 😂💯
I preface this by saying I'm an Eagles fan. I think he's top five but my criteria is based on talent, production, and stats. I also make sure to take into account the nuance of system, coaching, and mechanics. Top 5: 1. Mahomes 2. Burrow 3. Herbert 4. Hurts 5. Allen Some people probably won't like where I have Allen. Simple answer is he turns the ball over too much.
If you’re basing it off this season, Hurts had a better season than everyone except Mahomes lol, really isn’t much of an argument unless you’re trying to predict the future
The hate for Josh is insane. He has 5000 total yards 43 total tds to only 14 ints while having the 28 worst oline according to PFF. Gabe Davis lead the league in drops for a while. He must be in top 3 if not 2.
I think Josh Allen has been overhyped for a while now, but I don’t know if it’s fair to say Hurts is better. The Eagles have a MUCH better o line, which means a better running game and obviously better protection. I will say, the Hurts fumble looked exactly like something that Allen would do. That’s why I don’t like running QBs, personally.
Ban the push play? Why? That’s so stupid!! The logic here is literally “it works so it should be illegal”. Absolutely ridiculous. We’re at the point where we’re actually discussing penalizing innovation and good strategy. Nick is being ridiculous.
The Philly Push Play should be made illegal from a player safety standpoint. The ball carrier is being sandwiched between (conceivably) 2,000+ pounds of full-grown, NFL players pushing him and smashing him from the front and the back. The risk of serious internal injuries to the ball carrier is very high. It's a bad play and should be made illegal (again) and the refs need to enforce it.
As an Eagles fan I can't believe I am saying that I agree with Nick! Philly has wanted Gannon fired all season because of his play calling, so I don't see him being able to get Kyler to lock it in.
You know Nick was going nuts Sunday night every time the eagles got a first down on that QB sneak. It's better than not converting on third down and the refs scheming a way for you to have another chance in the biggest moments!!
Disagree with Nick about why the league is going to ban the "Rugby" play. I do think it will eventually be banned, but for reasons related to injury. A LOT of ex football players have provided analysis of how that style of play will eventually cause serious injury to either the QB or defensive linemen (Richard Shermon being the most outspoken) because of the size and weight of the players. We aren't talking about a Tom Brady type QB sneak, here. We're talking about multiple people pushing the ball carrier into a wall of 300 lb men like a rag doll. Jalen and Allen are probably the only two QBs that can take that kind of abuse.
The rules of football prohibit assisting the runner by pulling him, or grasping a teammate, etc. ... so the pile pushing that's been happening for so long shouldn't have been happening, and now that it's been really abused, it'll probably be enforced to where players cannot push or pull their own teammate, but can only push the opponent in the regular allowable way. It will make for a better game.
@@Bigge. Nick is right in saying that the sport would be less watchable if this becomes the norm. It's already plenty boring to watch purely rushing teams like the Titans, but this would make it even more of a snoozefest.
Burrow didn't have great a supporting cast? His defense last year averaged over 2 forced turnovers per game. His kicker was an NFL record 14/14 on field goals, many of them clutch. Burrow's playoff run last year was one of the most overrated ever. Hurts played better on Sunday than Burrow did in any playoff game last year. Don't give me that, Broussard!
If you're going to get rid of the fourth down push, then you have to apply that to a running back or wide receiver getting pushed/ pulled for extra yards. The nfl has turned into an offensive first league, and that play keeps the offense on the field instead of punting. Why make it illegal.
Let em sleep on my QB … he loves it, it’s fuel. Gives him drive. Once he can slow the game down a lil bit. Take underneath stuff. Scramble when needed. Not run into sacks as much. He’ll be a all around QB
Before Lamar Jackson got hurt. Ravens were the 1 seed in the afc and he was on his way to another mvp season. So the fact Lamar is just ignored it crazy to me
I dont think Lamar is being ignored, everyone thinks he is a top ten QB in the NFL.....top 5 when he is healthy. The problem is that LJ is always getting injured, and no one thinks he can play a whole season without injury.
Has anyone considered maybe Burrow’s line is fine and he’s just terrible at avoiding a rush? Or it’s just a coincidence the guys with good lines are elusive
Hurts is a great qb. For a qb to having as many rushing yards and passing yards as he did is pretty impressive. Very in my opinion he definitely shouldn’t been the mvp he lit a better Lamar and I’m a ravens fan saving that
If this is year to year- You got to put Mahomes, Hurts, Burrow and Allen. Then you have Rodgers, Jackson, Herbert, Lawrence, Purdy, Jones, Fields, Smith, Murray, Prescott and Carr. Why is Mr INT even in that list?!
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The fact that Nick is calling himself
✌️blowing the whistle✌️ on the QB sneak just proves how SCARED he is of the Eagles and Jalen Hurts, ruining his Mahomosexual fantasy of Patrick Mahomes ACTUALLY becoming the next GOAT!! 😆🐐😆
I used to laugh hearing about coaches that wanted to ban the forward pass. I get it now, Nick is just the other side of the spectrum. lol
Sorry, can't listen to that fool
All Jalen need is time. He’s had to overcome so much to get to this SB I doubt he’s just gonna fall off after this season. Humble dude with a desire to improve
All he needs is a defense that gets some stops. His performance and play is SB MVP and MVP caliber
It's crazy that I think he haven't reached his ceiling
@@delawareperformancetrainin307 Exactly, so glad Gannon is gone
@@delawareperformancetrainin307he literally has the best defense in the nfl that year tf are you on 💀
@@ianbahamonde6679 they're trash just like they are this year
These guys have become part of my routine and I love it! Just like chilling with my friends and having a good laugh 😃 hope this show doesn't lose it's identity!
Thess guy are no good they know nothing about football, please take them off the air.
Like these guys but new heights podcast has more chilling w ur friends vibe. This show still has a lot of hot takes and click baiting. But they do have hella personality
Then we should outlaw no look passes, and carousel plays.
He sounds dumb. “What is the Eagles get really good at it”. So what. My man can’t stand the eagles being better at something than the chiefs. Lol
Out of all the Super Bowl losing QB's, I felt bad for Jalen Hurts the most. Throughout the season, he always had the right demeanor, said the right thing, and I admired his clear work ethic throughout. You can tell he wanted to win to prove all his doubters wrong. He obviously gave it his all that game, and that defense let him down.
n hopefully, he gets another chance.
@@rafaelisslaam1894 he should to be honest. Only the Niners are any serious threat to the Eagles in my opinion.
He wanted to prove it so bad that he had an unforced fumble. Typical
@@dougdeveloper8850 Niners are a phenomenal team. Their skill positions are wild, but at some point you really need a QB. Jimmy G lost them a superbowl. If they had their current roster rn, and had Jalen Hurts they would be a dynasty
@@codyjackson245 Yeah cause Hurts totally is great at checking down, he never just decides to run instead of getting the ball out.
Jalen Hurts squats more weight than most of the defensive lineman in the league. The Eagles found the loophole in the sneak because the QB they drafted is just physically stronger than the linemen he's pushing against. Even if he didnt have Goedart or Brown pushing him, he'd still get the 1 or 2 yards he needs each time.
There was 1 instance in the SB where Jalen got stopped and AJ Brown pushed him 2 yd forward after getting stopped.
But yes for the 99.9% of other times your right.
Funny Hurts just made the flipping Superbowl and l think hes underrated.... Hurts is better than Allen, under any pressure anyway!!
I mean, yeah, if he stays at this level
^ and if the eagles maintain their top 2 o-line and all their free agents 💀
@DJ Buck Nasty They'll be able to revamp. They've got the picks and money
I swear everyone saying hurts is underrated at the same time means he isn’t underrated
Lol not even close. Without his legs hes mediocre at best.
Having “the prince” ahead of Hurts is insane. Maybe Herbert. But Hurts killed it this year and made it to the Super Bowl for Christ sake.
Caleb Williams lmao Nick just throwing shots at Allen at this point
Facts lol
If herbert or lawrence did what hurts did this year yall would put them top 5 instantly. This man improved every year
He was genuinely bad his first year…like bottom tier qb this year he was great but he was horrible before this
Hurts 2nd best qb in the league right now. Especially after the Superbowl in which he played the chiefs d better than burrow did while carrying the team on his back in when the defense no-showed. We also saw how bad the eagles looked at the end of the regular season when he was injured so the very least Hurts is top 3.
The only thing is hurts didn’t play well in other playoff games and he has the best oline in the league. I believe burrow is second but I respect your take
@@Midembo you got to remember hurts throw shoulder was still hurting and he was just pushing through cause how the eagles looked without him
@@venom8598 that’s true, but I still have him below burrow.
Eagles defense didn't no - show... they got Mahomsed👍
just because hurts lost to the chiefs a game after burrow did doesn't make him better than Burrow. Burrow beat the Bills, eagles beat daniel jones and half a quarterback
I consider myself a Josh Allen skeptic, but having Williams ahead of him is insanity lmao
Williams isn't the best QB in his class right now lol, It's CJ.
Caleb Williams isn’t in the draft this year
@@Spidervenom23 lol stroud was a borderline 4th round pick until he finally showed up for the bowl game . Caleb is going to be the number one pick
@@ThaHerbanLegend yeah your dumb Stroud was never dropping out of the top ten
@@ThaHerbanLegend He should probably focus on being able to beat Tulane first
Caleb Williams is on a list with NFL QBs and has never thrown an NFL pass. You gotta give it to him, Nick Wright is surpassing Skip as a troll lol
Nobody will ever surpass Skip... sorry...😅
THANK YOU NICK.... How does the cardinal hire that def dude is beyond me
As an Eagles fan, I confess, those were our prayers being answered.. sorry EB!
@@gbmbg114 agreed he needed to go
I have mixed feelings about Gannon … he was part of a team that racked up 78 sacks and took a HOF Coach and QB to the limit in a Super Bowl..
@@edwardmorgan3851 -- He benefitted from coaching with leads every week. Easy to get sacks when teams need to pass to come back. No Eagles fan is upset about this loss. Just hope they hire a legit defensive OC that isn't currently on the staff.
@@semi6544 yes , currently on staff would make me feel better
If qb sneak is easy why don’t every team do it
This is a very interesting topic....it's analytical so we have to see the numbers to determine what the rule should be....
Most teams don't have a QB that squats 600lbs.
Because most teams aren't willing to risk their qb getting a freak injury (for example, mahomes last qb sneak attempt)
@@garylp3 than tell the QB to squat 😂😂😂
Its not the idea of a qb sneak in general, it's the scrum version w everyone pushing him in. They're gonna have to do something about it. It's practically unstoppable, and likely to increase injuries as more teams start incorporating it more often. The only chance to stop it is to have just as many def pushing back, but they can't cuz, unlike the off, they don't know thats the play.
*All three of the guys debate whether hurts is top five quarterback for five minutes* Wildes: “ I don’t think that’s debatable”
My dawg
I love that man
What sucks about loving Nick Wright is the fact that I'm a die hard eagles fan. It's just so odd that while he doubted my team all year, then the chiefs beat them in the Super Bowl, how I ended up feeling better about it after hearing Nick be absolutely INSUFFERABLE yesterday and today
eagles fans were insufferable before they lost
It sucks to love Nick Wright, period.
Facts Eagles fan & Nick wright fan
I love insufferable nick I told everyone in my life if the browns ever win a super bowl oh yaw nggas gon HATE ME
As someone who doubted the eagles in a sense it was a weird position to hold. What I mean by doubted in a sense was that I thought they may very well be as good as hyped, which they were, but it was hard to truly buy in because of who they played. Now obviously you can only play who you’re scheduled and there are no guaranteed wins in the NFL but it’s hard to truly know how good a team is if they aren’t playing the elite teams. Through history we’ve seen a lot of teams that have good records by beating weaker teams all season long suddenly crumble when they finally do play against elite teams in the postseason.
I’m not saying they’re the same as those teams but a couple examples of teams that had great records for awhile and then slipped when they played tougher teams are the 2020 Steelers who started 11-0 and finished 12-4 and went one and done or my chiefs in 2003 who went 9-0 and finished 13-3 and went one and done or 2013 when they went 9-0 and finished 11-5 and one and done. They won a lot against weaker teams but then struggled against the better teams when they finally got tested. I think many of us wondered if that would happen with Philly.
Realistically they didn’t face an elite team that tested them until the Super Bowl. The Niners would’ve been that team had the QB fiasco not happened. And if they’d beat the Niners without the QB craziness I think they’d have had more believers entering the Super Bowl. But unfortunately the Super Bowl was the first elite team they played and they proved clearly they were just as good as a lot of people said. I personally thought they would be really tough to beat but always had lingering curiosity since they didn’t play anybody elite yet where they truly had a test. And in a sense both sides were right. People who thought they were a great team were right - they took KC to the very brink and easily could’ve won that game. But doubters were also proven right a bit by seeing the vaunted elite defense get torched the entire second half. The pass rush that was so feared leading in to that game didn’t have a single sack in the game. So yes they were legit and an elite championship team that deserved to be there but at the same time some of how they were seen as elite, predominately their defense and pass rush, was shown to have largely benefitted from a season where they didn’t play any elite QBs or offenses all year. When they finally did play an elite offense and QB their defense got got absolutely torched. And what was more eye opening about it than what Mahomes did was seeing how much the run game dominated because the Chiefs aren’t a running team really at all. All season the chiefs ran the minimum amount to keep defenses honest against the pass but they never established the running game like they did in this game. When a team that doesn’t run the ball often averages iber 6 yards a rush that’s pretty wild to see when the defense they’re playing is supposed to be so elite like the eagles were.
To me jalen is top 5 he can either go up the list or go down but as of right now going into next season he is top 5 at number 5 and he can lose it fast or keep proving people wrong
Yeah it kind of hit me, he suddenly probably became the QB in NFC with fewest questions. So many other questions or 'eh, okay...' QB's there
Good take👍
This is why I think these lists are pretty stupid. Football is highly volatile and every year is different. They try to treat it like the NBA where players play 80 games and pretty much every year are ranked the same. Football is not like that. Trevon Diggs had 11 picks last year and 3 this year. That’s how much things change.
Let's be honest, Jalen is already the best QB in the NFL, his records and stats prove it, you don't see Mahomes doing what he does, its much easier for Mahomes under Reid's system
Don't see how he's not 2 now.. Or 3 at the lowest
Jalen is most definitely top 5 right now but because it's mostly based off just 1 and a half seasons, it would be easier for him to fall out if he regresses a little or a couple other QBs rise up than a more proven commodity.
Mahomes allen burrow herbert lawrence lamar all better
He fumbled when nobody was around him in the most important game of his life. Top 5 my A-. He’s a running back with a arm that looks like he had Tommy John surgery. Are u for real??? Lol
@@carterpayte9463 , thank you!!!
@@jd0696 Getting that bent out of shape over an opinion is pathetic and tells me you are not for real. Get over yourself.
@@jd0696 wtf is u talkin bout?
They want Josh Allen in the Super Bowl so badly. How can the Bills possibly have better odds than the Eagles?!
Dude josh allen has been far more clutch than Herbert has ever been
In real life, absolutely. But on this show Josh Allen is the worst QB in the history of the sport who’s hanging on by a thread. He’ll probably be released this offseason 😂
Herbert can't be proven not to be clutch if he's barely in the playoffs 😉 lol.
I'm not even an Allen fan but yeah people putting Herbert above him is nuts.
@Los hahahah well played sir 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
The hate for Josh is insane. He has 5000 total yards 43 total tds to only 14 ints while having the 28 worst oline according to PFF. Gabe Davis lead the league in drops for a while. He must be in top 3 if not 2.
@Daniel R Gabriel Davis is the most overrated over hyped player I've ever heard of. He had one truly TERRIFIC game an everyone thought he'd b some legit option opposite diggs. Yea no. Ima bills fan through an through an IMO the weapon that should b USED MORE is Dawson knox. Josh did have an insane amount of fumblerooskies an while he makes SPECTACULAR plays like the TD he threw as time ran out against the dolphins b 4 halftime WTF
Just cuz it worked out doesn't make it a smart decision. No options throw away take the FG. Idk man the team is so frustrating to watch there's my rant if ya read it thanks🙏
You’ve always been able to do it that style of sneak, the Eagles are just really really good at it.. And if you stop it once, now you’re behind the sticks
Nick acts like it’s boring. Going for it on 4th down is always exciting. Even if it’s a QB sneak.
@@dillMANbaby not that I agree or think that it should be banned, but his concern was if teams can get close to a 3 yard average from it then you'll start seeing it on 1st and 2nd downs commonly not just on 4th downs and 2 point conversions.
@@dillMANbaby And it’s underrrated how much technique there is to it.. Like the pad level is immaculate, their QB is often the strongest guy on the field, their personal is perfect for it, and so many other teams get stuffed on QB sneaks
@@deanclark2703 It will never be used on 1st or 2nd downs because it is so taxing on the QB and OL and can lead to injuries.
No team will risk this for a 1st down gain of 2-3 yards!
@@ramyhany4309 I'm not saying I agree with Nick but that was literally his point during that part of the clip
Chiefs fan, Hurts is definitely top 5. My list is Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Hurts, Lawrence
Hurts should be over Allen.
Hurts is better than Allen
@@derrickluv4002 I really don’t see what people see in josh Allen!!
Patty, Hurts, Burrow, Lamar, Lawrence
2. Burrow 3. The Prince 4: hurts 5: Herbert
Hurts has done more than Josh Allen lmao
The hate for Josh is insane. He has 5000 total yards 43 total tds to only 14 ints while having the 28 worst oline according to PFF. Gabe Davis lead the league in drops for a while. He must be in top 3 if not 2.
@@danielr3587 no one hates him. Stop with that nonsense. But what has he done?
@Joshua Hoerner most analysts think he is the second to third best qb in nfl. This is what he has done to earn that been in the playoffs 4 years in a row. Won his division 3 years in a row. Has been a top 5 producer in tds for 3 years. Made everyone forget that besides Diggs his offense has no good players according to pff. Had the 28th worst oline in the league and lead to a 13 and 3 record. Played this year with a elbow injury to his throwing elbow. No its true that he has not gone to the Super Bowl, but before this year, his defense has let him down in the playoffs every year.
@Daniel R Come back when Allen has done... or won something other then 3 division titles kid👍
@Lake Ozark REI how many superbowls has Hurts won? 0.. why because it's a team sport. Before this year the bills defense has let Josh Allen down in the playoffs every year. This is while having a bad oline ranked 28th by pff and having bad skill players besides Diggs. Hurts has 2 elite wr and AJ brown my be better than Diggs the best oline in the last 20 years arguably and a great TE. Josh Allen is better and 90% of the US believes it.
Thank you Nick for pointing out what most Eagles fans saw all year about Gannon
Josh Allen has been gifted credit all year by many seems like because of size& potential.
On the unstoppable QB sneak play...a lot of rule changes over the past twenty years or so have been in favor of the offense. So giving something back to the defense, taking an unstoppable play off the board, seems fair. Especially when it you can no longer sack the QB like you used to and they are looking at how you tackle under a microscope.
4:20 the time stamp is 420 because Nick must be high to have Caleb Williams ahead of Rodgers or Allen.
Dude I couldn’t believe that kid was even on the list… W T F
I'm ready to say at the very least, Jalen Hurts is the best QB in the NFC
1:06 the only appropriate facial expression to mentioning Jalen Hurts in the same breathe as Geno and Lawrence
Geno went from dog 💩 to a very good qb , still can't believe that.
He has the highest completion percentage in 2022 😲.
If he continues that trend , he will be an elite qb , top 5 in the NFL.
What Bru was saying made perfect sense. 2 years ago Rodgers and Brady had 2 of the best years in history but neither were top 5 last year.
He's obviously top 5 right now.. They ask these type questions after every game.. right?
So he is top 5 right now and they can keep asking the question every week like we already know they are gonna do regardless..
The caveats from Broussard are absurd.. Just say it and own it if you still dont believe in him
@@MrRasheed7 i don't think requiring a larger sample size than 2 years is an absurd ask at all. Can't get much more micro than that before dissecting "top 5 performers of the week" or "top 5 of the month".Broussard DID give him all the credit and said he was top 5 clear as day. He just realizes it can and usually does fluctuate, as history proves EVERY YEAR. I'd say it's far more absurd to insist that Trevor Lawrence MUST be top 5, no question.
@@trevormatthews6518 They ask those questions in order to pigeonhole each other into an answer.. Top 5 (today) is inferred. Its a hot take show..
Dont sit on the fence and say you wanna wait 2 years when you are gonna be asked the same question plenty of times over the next 2 years
Just change your mind when more evidence actually presents itself
j/s
Way to keep these guys in line Brou!!!
Jalen Hurts has demonstrated what hard work and staying focused on your goals can do. He didn't let negative media and the opnions of others keep him from focusing on HIS goals. Others should follow. I hate they didn't win because HURTS did everything to WIN!!..... HE really was MVP if the loser could have been considered .I know the MVP comes from the winner..
He’s cracking it
“Burrow didn’t have the supporting cast”-- Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Mixon didn’t play for the Bengals in 2021 I guess
I mean if you didn’t finish hearing them talk they said except the receiver core
Still, the only knock on the cast of Burrow was the OL. Outside of that, the team was still really good so to say Burrow had “none of that” is a lie just to try and make himself seem right. To anoint Joe Burrow as top 5 last year and move the goal post for Jalen Hurts this season is sad. Just more media narratives questioning the throwing ability of African American QBs.
Chiefs fan here. Nobody hires Bienemy because they're not convinced that it isn't all just Andy's success. Bienemy also has a past. He needs to go to a less excellent offense and turn it into something great before he'll get serious looks for HC. He's a good OC and I would gladly keep him here, but those are the facts.
Don't players hate bienemey because he rubs people up the wrong way
@@halwa9528 Mostly not. He's old school and some people can't handle it (Shady McCoy), but he's generally respected and appreciated here.
"It's a good thing you guys won."
"Yeah, it'd be a bad look if you'd have lost."
"Yeah I'd look like a Billsfan..." ded.
Best moment of the segment 😄😄
As an Eagle fan I agree with Nick. How do you hire Gannon after that smh lol
I think what gets lost is HC is not just about play calling he has a great relationship with players and they felt like he could run a team. I think they should have hired the bengals DC but Im just saying
@@milijoven99 lmao Fletcher Cox was literally tryna get traded last year cuz of Gannon's trash system 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@eaglesman19 Well yea he didnt start of well last year but the players always seemed to like him and he is a high energy guy but Im glad he is gone I cant watch his defense anymore lol
Mahomes, burrow, and hurts the top 3 in the league. They the only ones who have that “it” factor. Dont trust any other qbs to put the team on their back
Love how Nick is so bitter about the QB sneak because his own QB lost a kneecap doing it XD
Lost a knee cap, won 2 SBs. Chiefs don’t need it. Lol they also rarely run their RBs up the middle in short yardage situations too. It was one of Andy’s first seasons when Jamal Charles suffered an ACL injury in Chicago on a similar play, which shortened his career significantly. Then 4 years later a similar play did the same thing to his QB. I think after that, Reid just realized that play just wasn’t worth it and there’s other ways to get that yard.
Also, Nick has a valid point, and there’s a reason why that play was illegal for most of football history. Defense isn’t allowed to push guys up front, but the offense is. It’s an unfair competitive advantage, plain and simple.
@@christianbrooks9155 thats like saying pancakes should be illegal too. you dont understand football. also...KC didnt earn it, sorry
@@philwalters3579 not even close to the same context. But regardless, it really doesn’t matter how you feel about KC earning it or not. At all. No one cares. They definitely earned it more than Brady’s tuck rule AFCCG lmao but history remembers one thing for sure: WHO WON THE SUPER BOWL.
Im no fan of Hurts but after this season, you can't leave him out of the top 5. I'd say he's third depending on how high ppl are gonna keep putting Allen up there.
My top five is :
1-Patrick Mahomes
2-Joe Burrows
3-Josh Allen
4-Lamar Jackson
5A-Jalen Hurts
5B- Justin Herbert
I personally love the Scrum sneak... I would love seeing an entire offense built around it personally.
2023 is gonna be a good year; this show is top notch
Nick is my guy! He said we not gonna state the obvious why Biennemy not a head coach. Sad but, true 😑
Nobody can accuse Brou of being a prisoner of the moment when it comes to his QB rankings
I think first things first is the best sports show of all time
You just need a qb that can leap the pile while also having power to run it normal too
You are going to put a player who has not even taken a snap in the NFL top 5? I love Nick, and Caleb might be good but this is asinine.
Caleb Williams aside, Herbert is the worst QB on Nick's tiers. I understand the hype around his individual talent but at some point you have to win a meaningful game.
Bruh hurts took them down the field to make it 35-35 then his defense lost them the game he didn’t even get a shot to come and win it all or tie it but he did his thing man I can’t believe the hate he’s still getting 😂💯
He is the best QB in the NFL. If you understand football and arent a Madden video gamer kid or TV pundit
jalen hurts is def top 5. and burrow no supporting cast?? 2 top 10 wr with chase and higgins
Yes he's a top 5 QB right now. (Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Hurts, Herbert)
The Prince and Herbert are neck-and-neck at 5th for me
Yea, give me the Prince over Herbert any day
Prince and Herbert both better than Allen. Allen is Carson Wentz with a slightly better arm. Not in the top 5 at all
Top 1 QB, as he just proved in the SB by outplaying Mahomes
I can’t even take Nick serious sometimes this dude is such a prisoner of the moment
Jalen top 3. Leadership,passing, running
Got to do it for more than 1 season to stay there.
Lmao
Three yards and a cloud of dust 😅😅💯
Hurts and Burrow are 2 and 3, but I’m not sure which is who
1. Hurts 2. Mahomes 3. Burrow 4. Allen 5. Rogers
I preface this by saying I'm an Eagles fan. I think he's top five but my criteria is based on talent, production, and stats. I also make sure to take into account the nuance of system, coaching, and mechanics.
Top 5:
1. Mahomes
2. Burrow
3. Herbert
4. Hurts
5. Allen
Some people probably won't like where I have Allen. Simple answer is he turns the ball over too much.
Putting Caleb Williams above NFL quarterbacks is ridiculous 😂
If you’re basing it off this season, Hurts had a better season than everyone except Mahomes lol, really isn’t much of an argument unless you’re trying to predict the future
The hate for Josh is insane. He has 5000 total yards 43 total tds to only 14 ints while having the 28 worst oline according to PFF. Gabe Davis lead the league in drops for a while. He must be in top 3 if not 2.
I think Josh Allen has been overhyped for a while now, but I don’t know if it’s fair to say Hurts is better. The Eagles have a MUCH better o line, which means a better running game and obviously better protection. I will say, the Hurts fumble looked exactly like something that Allen would do. That’s why I don’t like running QBs, personally.
Ban the push play? Why? That’s so stupid!! The logic here is literally “it works so it should be illegal”. Absolutely ridiculous. We’re at the point where we’re actually discussing penalizing innovation and good strategy. Nick is being ridiculous.
The Philly Push Play should be made illegal from a player safety standpoint. The ball carrier is being sandwiched between (conceivably) 2,000+ pounds of full-grown, NFL players pushing him and smashing him from the front and the back. The risk of serious internal injuries to the ball carrier is very high. It's a bad play and should be made illegal (again) and the refs need to enforce it.
As an Eagles fan I can't believe I am saying that I agree with Nick! Philly has wanted Gannon fired all season because of his play calling, so I don't see him being able to get Kyler to lock it in.
Did Brou not watch the same Josh Allen I watched this year? Lmao Burrow and Hurts are clearly better rn.
Dude said burrow didn’t have the supporting cast does he not see that offense
QB sneak shouldnt involve having guys stack behind the QB to push them forward. It's supposed to be a misdirection/dive play, not a Rugby "maul".
so nick thinks KC running ring around the rosey plays in the red zone "looks like football"
NICK IS ALWAYS WHINING BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU NEVER PLAYED SPORTS
@@monochrome493 Nick played sports, we cant all make it to the NFL
as I colts fan i’m glad, this seems like a good endorment of steichen
I agree, the 4th and 1 push play should be ban. This is football not rugby. And players could get hurt at the line of scrimmage as well.
You know Nick was going nuts Sunday night every time the eagles got a first down on that QB sneak. It's better than not converting on third down and the refs scheming a way for you to have another chance in the biggest moments!!
Bradberry's fault not the refs.
I love this show, but if i ever stop watching because it is Nick.
I'm sure nobody will care.. or even notice... if you're gone👍😅
@@ForsakenWar agree 🥺
@Jawad Rana 😅Just saying dude... It's a RUclips video Comment section... lol
Disagree with Nick about why the league is going to ban the "Rugby" play. I do think it will eventually be banned, but for reasons related to injury. A LOT of ex football players have provided analysis of how that style of play will eventually cause serious injury to either the QB or defensive linemen (Richard Shermon being the most outspoken) because of the size and weight of the players. We aren't talking about a Tom Brady type QB sneak, here. We're talking about multiple people pushing the ball carrier into a wall of 300 lb men like a rag doll. Jalen and Allen are probably the only two QBs that can take that kind of abuse.
Jalens not a big guy... thats how Mahomes dislocated his knee cap 4 years ago.
@@ForsakenWar yeah but he's stronger than the massive guys like Herbert and Allen and Lawrence
@@halwa9528 I'd give you Lawrence... and maybe Herbert.
The rules of football prohibit assisting the runner by pulling him, or grasping a teammate, etc. ... so the pile pushing that's been happening for so long shouldn't have been happening, and now that it's been really abused, it'll probably be enforced to where players cannot push or pull their own teammate, but can only push the opponent in the regular allowable way. It will make for a better game.
Blocking your players into other players shouldn’t be illegal.
@@Bigge. Nick is right in saying that the sport would be less watchable if this becomes the norm. It's already plenty boring to watch purely rushing teams like the Titans, but this would make it even more of a snoozefest.
If he don't have 4 guys pushing him in the back he wouldn't make the first downs or touch downs.
That 2 pt conversion play he pushed threw 4 Chiefs players himself
Burrow didn't have great a supporting cast? His defense last year averaged over 2 forced turnovers per game. His kicker was an NFL record 14/14 on field goals, many of them clutch. Burrow's playoff run last year was one of the most overrated ever. Hurts played better on Sunday than Burrow did in any playoff game last year. Don't give me that, Broussard!
Yeah they're wilding burrow has the best roster in the AFC by far
Let's see how Jalen does next year
Better than this year!
man said GENO
I LOT OF TEAMS HAVE UNSTOPPABLE PLAYS NOT JUST THE EAGLES BUT THE CHIEFS !
If you're going to get rid of the fourth down push, then you have to apply that to a running back or wide receiver getting pushed/ pulled for extra yards. The nfl has turned into an offensive first league, and that play keeps the offense on the field instead of punting. Why make it illegal.
Burrow doesn’t have a good supporting cast???? Besides the o line that’s insane
Let em sleep on my QB … he loves it, it’s fuel. Gives him drive. Once he can slow the game down a lil bit. Take underneath stuff. Scramble when needed. Not run into sacks as much. He’ll be a all around QB
Crazy how easy it was for Nick to make Broussard completely contradict his own point about Hurts & sample size lol
Bruh explain to me what is Broussard's obsession is with Josh Allen? What has he proven?
The meat holding that Nick wright does is like no other 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
He did this playoff run with bum arm, c’mon bru if Burrow was top 5 you gotta give Jalen that respect up to this point
My top 5 is Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Hurts, Herbert. Everyone needs to be on the lookout for Mr.Irrelevant when he comes back.
Before Lamar Jackson got hurt. Ravens were the 1 seed in the afc and he was on his way to another mvp season. So the fact Lamar is just ignored it crazy to me
I dont think Lamar is being ignored, everyone thinks he is a top ten QB in the NFL.....top 5 when he is healthy. The problem is that LJ is always getting injured, and no one thinks he can play a whole season without injury.
Nick was clearing guilty of Holding on that take. But don't call it until the most pivotal part of the show.
Stop the cap and give this man his due
It all depends on Jalen Hurts O-line if it stays together he wont regress hes top 5 with that oline
Burrow tee Higgins and Jamar Chase is on par if not better than eagles receivers
Jalen is right behind Pat , Pat on 1 leg , and Joe 😂
Jaylen definitely top 5
Has anyone considered maybe Burrow’s line is fine and he’s just terrible at avoiding a rush?
Or it’s just a coincidence the guys with good lines are elusive
He holds onto the ball too long
ban them whip route too then... cuz nobody wanna see open receivers with no defense catching touch downs...
Hurts is a great qb. For a qb to having as many rushing yards and passing yards as he did is pretty impressive. Very in my opinion he definitely shouldn’t been the mvp he lit a better Lamar and I’m a ravens fan saving that
We have no idea what we’re talking about but we’re entertaining- first things first
If this is year to year- You got to put Mahomes, Hurts, Burrow and Allen. Then you have Rodgers, Jackson, Herbert, Lawrence, Purdy, Jones, Fields, Smith, Murray, Prescott and Carr. Why is Mr INT even in that list?!
Difference was Chiefs had a quarterback and coach who have been there. But Hurts is great.