Let me hit you with this: After the ending of the first game with everyone trying to marry her, Peach gets fed up and goes on her own vacation/sabbatical to a far-off destination. But a few weeks pass and she doesn't come back on time. She's lost, through no fault of anyone. Mario and Bowser both hear about this, and out of both genuine and feigned concern for her, both set out to find and rescue her. - This puts another spin on the kidnapping trope, but most importantly puts Mario and Bowser *alongside* each other for the whole game, in direct competition and perhaps even begrudging cooperation. - This also lets you completely break the linearity, because if you're just trying to find where Peach got lost, you could basically start the search anywhere and go from there. - And (I think you brought this up with Paper Mario) it also gives Peach some agency and also hey hey! The ability to play as her during intermission chapters, in some wild jungle that she's trying to find her way through
I really don't want outfits to have particular abilities. Because then you're choosing the outfit that has the best ability for what you're trying to achieve, instead of the one that looks coolest.
What if outfits share abilities instead of giving them all unique ones. For example, some outfits increase jumping while others increase health. This way you have more choices for looks.
Have layered outfits like in Monster Hunter😂 I'm fine with throwing sentient head attire and possessing the bodies of the indigenous peoples of the land.
If odyssey 2 ever does happen I swear Bowser Junior and Kamek better be in it. It made absolutely no sense that they were in the first game considering Kamek raised Bowser so why wouldn’t he be at the wedding. They could’ve made him the priest that would’ve been perfect and jrs debut game what about him kidnapping peach because he wanted her to be his mom so why wouldn’t he be at the wedding
@@barelyhere7200 Honestly, Bowser JR is just my favorite character in general so I wanted him in anyways, but your point really makes them needed in the game
I forget the video but someone suggested that Wario and Waluigi could revealed to be the Crazy Cap owners and be the main antagonists of the sequel. That would be fresh af. Also, I like the Broodals as well, and I could see them working for the mad Diamond City mogul next time around. Peach and Tiara is a perfect idea for local two player.
I remember that Wario & Waluigi idea too , i believe it was SMT ..supermarioT : what i want for mario odyssey 2 ...I also liked his thoughts of haveing a couple of more new vocals songs , for Pauline or better Rosalina , plus bring back her dropped guitarist comtume...💙🌟 if anyone is curious to try his video sometime .. i also just like the idea of Nintendo writing stories of Mario & Luigi trying to help out or rescue Pauline, Daisy.. & Rosalina again form other villains for a change in other games not just a odyssey sequel
Wario being the secret owner of Crazy Cap would be an amazingly awesome reveal while still being entirely in character for him considering he literally owns another company in WarioWare, Inc.
I still think revisiting a few reimagined levels from 64 and Sunshine would be cool. ... mainly I just wanna see Delfino Plaza given the Mario Odyssey treatment.
Why stop there? Why not adapt the _entire_ Isle Delfino, since the hardware is now strong enough that they could make it one big continuous location if they wanted?
I think they can implement small areas as a call back to a specific part of another previous existing level, but as its own entire world - I just think thats too much.
I'm thinking a dragon, which makes me think SMO2 should be a time-travel adventure where you now visit the Mushroomverse version of different eras such as Medieval Europe and Ancient Egypt. Maybe we could see the Mushroom Kingdom, Sarasaland, etc. in the distant past?
@@bigtree0079 that's fair enough Personally, I don't think they should really push a direct sequel to mario oddysey (i. e. no big number 2 on that title among other things) but would take a Mario game which carries on the spirit of oddysey (while hopefully still keeping cappy because movement with cappy is so good) I feel that Oddysey is it's own game for sure and having a second game in the same series would lessen the novelty of both But maybe that's just me
@@otherrad1240 idk, i've never been sure that those are "real locations" in the sense that they're located on mario's planet. i always assumed they were alternate worlds/dimensions or something lol
Rather than moons, I think the things hidden in random spots that reward your exploration should be, like... some kind of customization items. I like the idea of buying souvenirs and costumes with coins, I want them to keep that, so the hidden things could be, like... I dunno, artifacts? Maybe make the Odyssey 2 a big ship with several rooms and allow you to decorate it however you want. Allow you to buy or find gifts for Peach.
I started playing Hollow Knight a few days ago and one thing I've noticed in it is how there's a whole variety of different types of collectibles/objectives in there - charms, geo, containers for masks and soul, the spells, movement options, the nail arts, relics, essence and so on - and all of them have their own value and purpose (even the rancid eggs) yet it doesn't feel convoluted at all. Instead, whenever I get an item, I feel like I've progressed as the item will help out in the long run for sure (yes, even the rancid eggs). As a result feel satisfied and feel whatever journey or challenge I've made in order to get that item is made worth it. The whole variety of items covering different aspects of the game such as exploration, combat, and the economy means that whenever I get an item, I'm always excited at the chance it helps me reach new areas or make a boss easier or allows me to upgrade my nail, et cetera. Thus, every item feels worth getting. This is something I'd love to see a "Mario Oddysey 2" or just any mainline Mario in the future do: make it feel like areas you explore and items you collect as result have a lasting impact on the feeling of progression in the game. Coins in oddysey don't hold any real weight as you can't truly lose coins except from spending them (or being exceptionally bad at the game but that's unlikely) as well as the fact that most of the things you buy with coins are purely cosmetic. Moons obviously have more importance than coins, yet still have weaknesses. As standardised collectibles they don't give unique sense of accomplishment at the end of the day. As a hard moon to get has the exact same value as an easy moon, which isn't too much of a problem in other games, but in Oddysey with how easy a lot of moons are to find, it's harder to feel accomplished about getting a moon from doing a difficult challenge when you can also find moons just sitting in the trash (literally). This wouldn't be so bad if it was like spirit orbs in botw - there, the more you had, the more health or stamina you'd have, so you'd always want more of them. However, you only needs a certain amount of moons from each kingdom to get to the next kingdom ,and some kingdoms just don't require moons at all, so it doesn't really matter if you decide to go for the hard ones or not unless you go for 100 % completion. Combined with the sheer amount of them, they feel really low value as a result, especially compared to the collectibles of past 3d games like 64, galaxy and sunshine. (Doesn't help that you can buy as many moons as you want and that each moon is only 100 coins). So, TL;DR isbasically just agreeing with why having unique items with justifiable purposes is gud
Bowser’s Kingdom in Odyssey was basically a Galaxy level. The electric poles you use to travel between segments served the same purpose as launch stars.
Wish we had a haunted Kingdom where you could explore a graveyard haunted courtyard/mansion and capturing boos!We also need Luigi playable! What I loved about the Galaxy games!
This. So many of odyssey's kingdoms just felt a bit boring to navigate, but a multileveled, broken down boo mansion has so much potential to be a great playground to move around in and explore. On the outside, it'd look less like a traditional boo house, and more like an overdesigned, misshapen victorian mansion, with extra rooms, ledges, balconies, and towers jutting out of it all over the place. As you explore the mansion and find a path up to the top, you could find yourself moving along both its inside and outside, and this irregular external structure would help to make that more interesting.
Maybe for a hub world-ish type thing you could just kinda chill in the sky on the Odyssey mid-flight? Like you could walk around the inside and outside of the Odyssey while the ship was moving. You could even ask Cappy for tips and change your outfit. They could even add a telescope so you could explore your surrounds! And you could decide which kingdoms to go from there.
Imagine if Nintendo replaced the "unimportant" moons from the first game with a collectable that unlocked linear, focused platforming challenges? Everyone wins!
Yeah that would work well. It would definitely make me like an odyssey styled game more since I prefer mario 3d worlds linear style to mario odyssey's open worlds.
My hope is that the tiny worlds from Odyssey 1 get expanded into actual big worlds. Mainly Cap Kingdom and Ruined Kingdom because they've got so much potential. Maybe Cloud Kingdom too. I don't see much potential in that one, though it looks great.
I'm just saying. Peach has Tiara. She can function just as Cappy. She has her own selection of outfits like Mario does. You'll satisfy people who don't want Peach to be another damsel. It's too good an opportunity to pass up, Nintendo.
The discussion around Odyssey has changed since its release. A lot of people are now complaining how structureless it was and how unrewarding the experience it This sudden shift of public opinion is shocking. Especially since BoTW is still well-regarded.
I personally can’t go back to botw after a second play through that felt completely broken, it’s just to easy to become OP if you just know where to get the good items and then hoard food. I really hope they fix some things in the sequel.
Conversations do tend shift on big releases, mostly just because people get fed up with the other point of view dominating the dialogue. Breath of the Wild has the same thing. Even some years back, there were videos going over the problems with it. It's a balance that should exist anyway, but since people are so prone to going all in on one point of view OR the other, opinions tend to go really hard one way for a while and then get a backlash in the other direction later.
Don't know why. The game wasn't structureless at all and is very rewarding. People like to blow the whole "meaningless moons" thing WAY out of proportion. There's only like three or four I can think that were just out in the open. Odyssey's not a perfect game, no game is, but it's an extremely good one. Some people just make little gripes into huge problems because there's not much bad to say about the game.
@@chrange9714 Yeah but those three to four were reused in nearly every single kingdom and even reused multiple times in the same kingdom. Ex: moons where you groundpound a random spot or catch a bird. If they had half as many moons, they could have put a bit more effort into making them more fun to collect.
A "Peach's Odyssey" would be very entertaining. I would buy it sight unseen. But im also sure that would be a gamble on Nintendo's part. Similar mechanics and naturally add in loads of costumes and outfits (wich may have slight mechanical differences.) A hub world could be of the castle or maybe an airship commandeered from Bowser's military. A story about uncovering artifacts (moons) from the ancient hat civilization, or something that gives answers for the random elder souls dragon. It could be everything Arlo is asking for.
My favorite part of the game was how Cappy added to Mario's jump toolbox. I would love the ability to play as the core four characters, with their own Cappy movesets added in. As you said, it would be cool to play as peach/tiara with hover move worked into the platforming. But Luigi and Toad have some cool potential too.
-honestly, I don't think an Oddyssey 2 would really need a Hu World, that's basically what the kingdoms are, but yeah riding the ship over the world freely would be cute -the biggest problem with the Moons is that there's a THOUSAND of them, & most of the issues in this video come from the fact that there are more moons than what the Dev Team could manage: if you remove most of the Moons that are just Laying there or tied to talking to NPCs you basically remove the need for the store -yea expanding the smaller kingdoms would be neat, & actually adding Isla Delfino would be so cool -YES! Playable Peach & Tiara!! do it you cowards!!
I have a few things I would want. - Add shoes to costomizable clothing. - Make more big levels, but not just that. Have levels where they don't seem very big, but have multiple hidden areas that increase the size of the level significantly. - bigger punishment for death. If you want to stick with the coins, how about 100 coins or make it costomizable so you can chose how harsh it will be. - Multiple playable characters. - Multiplayer. At minimum, you should be able to play with someone on a different switch.
Maybe have it so that different missions award different rarities of moons. Easy Missions (Ground Pounding, Tracewalking, Plain Sight): Power Moon (1 Moon) Medium Missions (Challenge Rooms, Sheep Herding, Minigames): Dual Moon (2 Moons) Tricky Missions (Harder Challenge Rooms, Koopa Freerunning Master Cup, Normal Story Missions): Trinity Moon (3 Moons) Hard Missions (Trickier Story Missions, Prankster Moons, Miniboss Fights): Quad Moon (4 Moons) Brutal Missions (Hard Platforming Sections, Hard Prankster Moons, Main Boss Fights): Grand Moon (5 Moons)
How does that make them worthless? You still have to put in a considerable amount of time and effort into obtaining the coins to buy them in the first place, especially in large numbers.
My idea for an Odyssey 2: Mario, Cappy, Peach, and Tiara are enjoying a trip through space in the Odyssey. Suddenly, an asteroid shoots them out of the Odyssey, separating them and having them land on an alien planet (that explains the new levels!) With this, you play as both Mario and Peach in their own kingdoms, as they try to get back together in the middle of the planet. Peach and Tiara will play differently to Mario and Cappy, too. :) Edit: I commented this before Arlo said it LMAO
I don't understand how every RUclips Under the sun seems to be sponsored by Raycon when the internet is almost entirely negative about them. Is is a cash crab or part of some RUclips contract?
When things like Raycon get someone like Arlo, typically Arlo has to sign a contract saying "I'll only say good stuff about them for X amount of time." regardless of if Arlo likes them or not. He is legally bound to follow that. No choice.
Odyssey is going on 4 years now. Nintendo likes to release new mario games anywhere from 3-5 years so it's likely we will see a new game before the end of 2022
On the merging sandbox and linear Mario games, they just need to use A Hat in Time's format. Have multiple different worlds with multiple levels in each where some of the worlds are more sandbox and others are more linear. A Hat in Time also solved the too many moon issue by having yarn as a 'middle tier' collectable tied to progression (unlocking hats) that could fill the areas that were too easy for a time piece but needed something to reward exploration.
A fun twist for a Mario Game that may fit Odyssey 2: Both Mario AND Bowser are trying to rescue Princess Peach from a NEW Villain. Hear me out! Bowser clearly wants Peach for himself and Mario is always trying to save Peach. But WHAT IF someone got to Peach before Bowser?! You can spend the game racing through worlds and occasionally bumping into Bowser. So the mini-bosses can be fighting Bowser as they stumble over each others’ toes. Then the final battle is Mario and Bowser having to team up (like when using Cappy on Bowser in the secret ending”). ::slams desk:: PRINT ALL THE MONEY!!!
You know, ever since Endgame, the Marvel Cinematic Universe just hasn't been the same. That's why I watch the Arlo Raycon Everyday E25 Sponsorship Cinematic Universe now instead.
I'd like to see returning to previous kingdoms. Not the same stage, but a different area of that kingdom. It feels almost perfect since each stage has a separate name for its specific location and the kingdom is just the greater location so it could have more stages within it. Would let the devs flesh out underutilised themes (Ruined Kingdom especially) or put a spin on previous stages themes. But they should still also include completely new kingdoms too. I think it should be about a 50/50 split between new and old.
Exactly. Why only the moon has a "dark side"? We **need** an alternate, more challenging version of every area. Nintendo has an excuse to reuse most of the assets and can even sell it as DLC for 20 EuroDollas. Everyone is happy!
What I would love: -I would love the whole game to be the HUD world. Like in Bowser's Fury, just have the whole game be interconnected :0 -Have more purple coins instead of extra way-to-easy-to-find Power Moons -Let me use cannons from Mario 64! -Have costumes from other Nintendo games! Imagine getting to dress Mario like Link, Captain Falcon, Olimar, or even more obscure characters like Takamaru! -Let me capture Bowser Jr in the Clown Car :0 -Let me fight a boss fight while capturing Bowser :D -Kingdom Ideas: Giant Kingdom (You explore a GIANT house as a tiny mario!), Ruined Kingdom (I know it's already technically a kingdom, but only lasts for one boss fight. It would be awesome to see this kingdom expanded upon. maybe it could be haunted!), and Sahrasala Kingdom (Based on Super Mario Land, and Daisy's there too!)
My 3 biggest hopes for Odyssey 2 are 1. More emphasis on platforming 2. Higher difficulty 3. Include the Koopalings so we can finally have them in a 3D Mario game
My hopes for it: -Have the hub world be a way bigger version of the airship -Be an actual continuation with a new story instead of a reboot -Sarasaland and Daisy
Easier way to make Odyssey 2’s difficulty able to please everyone: … have a difficulty option so people don’t complain about it being too easy or too hard so nobody complains so much that they add an unnecessarily difficult side mode that’ll make u wanna break ur controller. We seriously need some form of difficulty option in more games. I’d love to hear (technically read about) how u feel about this.
If Mario and Peach might be playable, might as well throw in Luigi, Daisy, Wario, and Waluigi. Give them a reason to exist outside sports. Also, I hope bosses are a bit more sophisticated and take more than 3 hits to beat. Lastly, let's solve the mystery behind Bowser Jr.'s and Koopalng's biological Mom...
i was looking away from the screen when you were shuddering so i instinctively thought you were talking about origami king. when i rewinded and saw it was andromeda i thought it was hilarious because i had no idea you had ever done a video on that game.
My biggest hope is more involved/complex platforming sequences. My first few runs through Mario Odyssey were some of the most fun I've ever had in a video game ever, but now that I've seen everything it has to offer, the fundamental lack or challenge at it's core means there really isn't a ton of incentive for me to return since I'm not into speed running.
Thirteen. Bowser's Fury isn't even that better. It's platforming design are very cryptic, too much repetition going on & Bowser's Fury himself is so annoying. I liked the concept of it. But ultimately. It's worst than Odyssey.
@@jaretco6423 Cryptic? Sounds like hmm... An exploration based platformer! I dunno, having played Banjo, SM64, Ratchet, Jak, Spyro, Odyssey just felt like the worlds weren't about traversing worlds at all, just like pixel hunting doors leading to minigames, or moons. In Fury, you at least need to platform to reach places. That's kind of the point of these games. Odyssey is an outlier.
I just want Donkey Kong Jr. to be relevant again... My idea for odyssey 2 involves the Kong family, it could start with Cranky Kong looking at a photo album, and we can see young versions of Cranky, Mario, Pauline and DK Jr. It focuses on DK Jr. and a tear drops on the photo. Cranky starts to sniffle and Donkey Kong places his hand on Cranky’s shoulder, they both share a look at each other and then they sit together and look at the horizon, are they expecting something? Suddenly they see a boat in the ocean, it’s definitely coming this way! They stand up and hurry to the beach to receive the visitors. Once the boat that’s getting closer they are immediately disappointed, there isn’t any monkeys on board but they can definitely recognize some faces, It’s Mario and Pauline and they are riding the Odyssey on the water. Cranky gets frustrated and starts to leave before the Odyssey could arrive. Donkey Kong stays to receive Mario and Pauline, they arrive and tell Donkey Kong they want to talk to Crank and him about DK Jr. with a concerned look on their faces. Donkey Kong panics, Mario reassures Donkey Kong and tells him that DK Jr. (who lives in New Donk City as the head accountant at city hall) is ok but has become a bit of a workoholic. DK Jr. is basically living in city hall working everyday and Pauline was trying to get him to take a vacation but he just won’t budge. Mario and Pauline want Donkey and Cranky to go to New Donk City and talk to DK Jr. into taking a vacation. Cranky, who was hiding hearing their conversation, comes out and start yelling at Pauline, “this is your fault!!!” “My boy won’t visit because of you!!! “You’re overworking him, he shouldn’t be a slave he should be free!!!”. Cranky’s words echoes, Pauline takes a step toward Cranky and he steps back, Pauline stops and says “DK Jr. is our best accountant, he chose to work for city hall on his own, and he can leave whenever he wants but chooses to bury himself with work. Every year I tell him take a break, go visit your family, please they must be worried sick, but this year, he just doesn’t want to leave work. Please he needs your help, come with us and talk to your son”. Cranky gather his thoughts, “I can finally see my son? But that accursed place, the last time I was there-“ Mario interrupts, “Cranky, I know you have some bad memories about New Donk City but I promise I won’t force you to do something you’re uncomfortable with, I’m a changed man, truly, and I want to help you.” Cranky stays silent, Donkey Kong looks at him in the eyes and says “it’s been so long since I’ve seen my dad, let’s go visit him, grandpa” Cranky responds “yes, let’s go visit your father” with a smile on his face. They all board the Odyssey and head towards New Donk City... I was thinking that when they get to New Donk City, DK Jr. is either kidnapped or rampaging because of mind control, I like the latter because Pauline could write and sing a song about DK Jr. to snap him out of the mind control. Anyways that’s enough fan fiction for one day.
So basically a Mario/Donkey Kong crossover game. Your idea can be used for entirely for another game outside of mainline Mario. That is a extremely unlikely idea for a 3D Mario game. And your idea doesn't make any sense. I don't hate your idea or against it, but your idea doesn't make any sense though for a 3D Mario game.
My guess/hope as to why it’s taken so long is that it was planned as DLC before they switched to making a sequel, they had to pause development for 3D World+Bowser’s Fury, and are now back to work on Odyssey 2.
Arlo: We need to make this a game that can please absolutely everyone. Also Arlo: But not the casual fans. Make this game super hard so only the hardcore adult Mario fans can play.
Here's and entire pitch for Super Mario Odyssey 2: I think one thing to add to Cappy's movement would be "cappy surfing". Cappy surfing would make it so Mario could jump onto cappy, but instead of him bouncing up, he would ride cappy like a hover board for like 5 seconds. This would add a whole new layer to SMO speedrunning. Also, for SMO 2 story, bowser would kidnap peach again, but this time, Bowser is trying to collect all of the "ultra hats". Ultra hats are hats which would kinda function like the emeralds from the sonic games. If you collect every ultra hat you would transform into something similar to Super Sonic. There is one ultra hat in every kingdom you play through in SMO 2. Mario will collect every ultra hat, but at the end of the game, bowser will take all the ultra hats from mario and become *ultra bowser* [He'll look similar to Giga Bowser from smash bros]. For boss fights, you will fight the Broodals again, but they will be competing with the Flockers, which is a another group hired by bowser, to stop mario. The Flockers are an all birds group consisting of a turkey, chicken, hen, rooster, and a robotic chicken. Also, instead of having the mother broodal, they should instead put the father broodal for this game. The last kingdom for the original SMO was the mushroom kingdom, I think this time the last kingdom should be the Delphino Kingdom. Now, alot of people thought of this too, but didnt really have an idea of how it would work. I think that instead of just having the entire delphino island to explore, the entire island would be flooded with water. This would make sense, since in the original SMO it showed delphino to be covered with water on the map. The only remaining parts of the original delphino island would be the volcano and delphino plaza. The rest of the kingdom will be completely brand new. There will be like 30 islands scattered across the large body of water. Meanwhile, under water, there will be plenty of things to explore including, the brand new, delphino city which is a futuristic city under water. The delphino kingdom will be 3 times the size of Sand Kingdom. Now the last thing I have to say is, people really want use F.L.U.D.D. again. I think, in order to incorporate F.L.U.D.D., there will a robotic Mario with F.L.U.D.D. on his back, that you can capture. On land, F.L.U.D.D. will work just like it did in Mario Sunshine, But under water, F.L.U.D.D. will work like an under jetpack that you can use to maneuver through the large space of water in Delphino Kingdom.
Imagine this: -Luigi is playable from the start, with him and Mario having little differences in their gameplay and even interacting with each other. When playing as one, the other could follow you around, giving you the option to switch anytime. There could be puzzles where only one bro can complete them, giving insentive to use both. Plus, I’d love for them to actually talk to each other in cutscenes and during the gameplay, talking about things involving the kingdom around them. This mechanic could serve as a good way to bring people in too. -Wario and Waluigi are secondary villains, serving Bowser purely for the money. However, when Bowser refuses to pay them, they defect to your side in the final sequence, allowing you to play as them in the rest of the game. This would be Wario’s first mainline appearance since the super Mario land games and Waluigi’s first mainline appearance ever. -Delfino Plaza and Toad Town return to the series as kingdoms, with Toad Town presenting a different look at the mushroom kingdom away from the castle. You can explore Mario and Luigi’s home in the outskirts of the town, where the Odyssey would be parked, and a large market could be going on in the town itself to make it feel like a unique kingdom. Delfino Plaza would pretty much stay the same. There could even be little voice lines between the bros about how Luigi’s never been there before, as a nod to his absence in Sunshine. -Kingdoms like New Donk City return from the original Super Mario Odyssey, to add a bit more to connect the games. -Goomboss and Petey Piranha return as kingdom bosses for Toad Town and Delfino Plaza respectively, stating that they owed Bowser a favour. King Boo could also return for a haunted mansion Kingdom, to mirror Luigi and Mario’s levels of familiarity with Delfino Plaza by swapping it for the original mansion from Luigi’s Mansion. And that’s all my ideas. Essentially, I’d like the next Odyssey game to feel a little more connected with the Mario Universe as a whole, bringing back a bunch of older locations and revamping them to give them the Odyssey treatment. That and making this game a little look into how Mario and Luigi act with each other in regular scenarios, especially in postgame content.
We live in a world where we got a sequel to frickin’ Splatoon before a new Mario. Splatoon… a game that essentially hasn’t changed since it’s first installment on the Wii U.
While listening to your ideas for peach, I thought about another idea: What if inbetween worlds, we saw small sneak peeks about what peach is doing, but, bear with me here, we actually got to control peach and influence the story? I personally think that would be pretty cool
Bowser Jr would be an interesting take on the main villain. Maybe Bowser is away and he leaves Bowser Jr to his own devices? I'd honestly love to see Wario and Waluigi act as recurring rivals to impeded Mario and co's progress.
@@mattb6522 going off of that, if they made Luigi playable and his hat could take over creatures or interact with environments that Mario’s couldn’t that could potentially make it more interesting
@@TheTabaK23 Yeah, that would be interesting if they had different playable characters like Luigi or Peach that could have like exclusive captures or areas. As long as it doesn't reach Donkey Kong 64 levels of exclusive collectibles.
Okay this will sound stupid, but what of the villains are space hornets, but different from the bees in Galaxy. That way this story can be about resorts. You know, a *Honeymoon*
Actually, I last year dreamed with Super Mario Odyssey 3. It started on a (lazy) final battle area set up high in the Sky, above a mountainous location (like Sonic Heroes's first Sonic CGi, but way too high above it, to the point the second half of the background was just the Sky almost at night). The platform itself was just a big circle with a purple carpet, and around there were ¿floating ropes? holding candles with fire. Bowser had a Roller Coeaster skeleton like machine, and he used it to throw Mario way too far away to the left corner of the map, making him land on an snowy area. The map was like Breath of The Wild, everything was interconnected. The Snowy area had a gigantic green pipe, as in gigantic enough to fill a complete Mall in there. Also, Mario was able to get back to the final battle area practically whenever he wanted to, just climbing between "?" Blocks placed around the world. I actually awoke while I was jumping the last set of blocks to return to the fight.
@@tony88leeodyssey sold more lol, plus is casual as hell. Just because is not linear doesn't mean is less casual, the game is the most accesible thing on the planet
The big thing for me would be to not go overboard with moon placement... After awhile they just stopped feeling rewarding to grab because of how pointlessly placed they were in some levels.
@@chrange9714 Not just ones sitting in the open. But ones that have absolutely no chalenge to getting are the ones I meant. Ones like "Ground pound X obvious spot that isn't even hidden" ones
@@Yarharsuperpirate The challenge is finding where they're buried. Not every moon has to have a giant challenge behind it. Barely any of them are in obvious spots. They're scattered all over in different locations pretty well hidden. Especially those picture ones with Poochy.
@@chrange9714 Here are some worthless moons that could easily have been removed: -buy a moon from the shop -spit out like a hundred coins at that one spot in the deep woods -every “talk to character while wearing specific costume” moon -break rock to get a moon (or at least make it take waaayy less time) -wait for stupid dog to dig up the moon (see above point for how to fix) -hint art ( or at least let players who know where they are get the moons without having to waste time going to Dark Side and back again) -100 hits in beach volleyball (or make it so it either doesn’t start so slow or only 50-75 hits are required) I’d rather have 500 quality or memorable moons than 999 moons where a third of them suck.
@@dawsonarmstrong3627 The only moon from that list that's actually worthless and could've been removed is the 100 volley ball rally one. And it's not even really worthless, it's just slow and annoying to do. Buying one from the shop requires you get 100 coins and any bought afterwards is entirely up to you. Spitting 100 coins at the vine in Deep Woods is completely fine and pretty cool. Have no clue why you put that one there. The talking to characters while wearing specific clothing ones were very cool as well and there's only 6 in the whole game. Each bonus room that follows is even themed around the costume you needed to enter with. Get out of here with the rock one. You babies act like it takes years to open, please. It takes a couple hits and then opens. Doesn't take long in the slightest, how impatient are you? Same with the dog, it doesn't take long at all for him to find a moon and you barely ever even need him. I feel bad for you if you've actually been going back and forth to the Dark Side to see the hint art. Bro, you're supposed to take a picture of it with the Switch. The game literally tells you this every time you view hint art. You're not supposed to go back and forth. A third of the moons don't suck, almost all of them are just fine. A few of them are dumb like the slow 100 volley ball rally, but that's a very small amount.
i know how you can make an hub world for odyssey. either make the odyssey bigger, or have the odyssey be docked in this big airship that acts like a hub world, with you being able to find moons or even maps that let you go to new places.
Okay, just a weird little thing I’d want, for it to revitalize an old character the way the first one did for Pauline. Maybe a bug-themed level with Stanley the Bugman, or a level set in Subcon with Wart, or maybe we could see Sarasa-Land and have it feature Daisy and Tatanga. Heck, I’d even take a pirate level with Captain Syrup.
Dang Arlo, Odyssey’s “easier” difficulty is the reason it’s the only Mario game I’ve ever beaten. And it’s one of my favorite games ever! Difficulty options are a way to please those that want a harder challenge without ignoring the rest of us :(
Exactly ! I play games for fun. That's what games are for. A (properly done) difficulty setting system is all we need because I can't stomach when a game is too hard, either when completely lacking difficulty settings or telling you "choose normal difficulty, it's perfect for beginners" to then beat you repeatedly without any way to crank down the difficulty.
@@Cevaro2 I’ve tried a few of those, but none of them clicked for me the way Odyssey did. I never said there was a problem with people wanting a more challenging experience. Of course there’s nothing wrong with that! But I don’t think the solution has to be to make it more hard for everyone when difficulty options are standard in gaming nowadays. Letting players choose their own level of challenge feels like a very doable way to “make everyone happy.”
@@dandelionbritt How does one increase the difficulty of platforming as an option? Mario isn't a combat based game where you can easily adjust numbers, you fall in a mario game, you die
I think that you can't make everyone happy. That's the sort of thing Resident Evil 6 or Cyberpunk tried to do, and it ends making the whole experience lesser for trying to mash everything together. I'd be perfectly fine if tight platforming challenge Marios and 3D exploratory Marios stayed as mostly separate things, rather than trying to shave off bits of themselves in order to fuse together as some sort of "ultimate Mario experience". I feel like the best way to please both kind of fans is to let each style exist separately, and the folks who like a given style can get that particular game.
One way to make the costumes being upgrades work is: Do a challenge in an area where you have to do something, like swimming, and then you unlock the costumes AFTER you beat those challenges, and then that costume unlocks new challenges that can still be completed without that costume, for those who want that difficulty, but is balanced around having the costume.
Also, what about if peach and tiara could be a second player? Then maybe it could be a good 2 player game or technically a 4 player game. Just don't let it impact the level design though Also also, you should be able to carry over your costumes from the first game. But maybe not immediately to encourage using the new costumes
You want tighter design, but larger kingdoms? What I think they should do is make a BUNCH of tiny kingdoms, with a few huge ones. Lost Kingdom was easily my favorite because every square inch of it is actually utilized, unlike something like Sand Kingdom which is just a bunch of spread out points of interest separated by nothing.
For Super Mario Odyssey 2, I want the game to look more Marioified. Odyssey 1 lack elements that made Mario, Mario. A 3D World look would be nice. I want more traditional enemies. Koopas, (Yes they're in the game, but as NPCs not enemy) Thomps, Spike, Boos, Monty mole, pokeys, Bob bombs, boomarng bros, Magikoopas, Shy guys, etc. These enemies would work perfectly as captures. So much more opportunities can be used. I want the game to have of course new Kingdoms. And I have a few ideas. Haunted Kingdom. Pirate Kingdom (A pirate themed kingdom. Were you can go ship to ships, and explore some sand areas.) Mountain kingdom Sugar Kingdom (A dessert/candy themed kingdom) Big House kingdom (I got this idea from Nathaniel Bandy, but it works so well. For the big House kingdom, the mass of the kingdom can so huge as if you're a toy. And there could be an illusion were the sky becomes the roof of the house.) Jigsaw Kingdom (It's a Kingdom that's just a puzzle jigsaw themed. This could work very well and a lot can be done. Being able to capture puzzle pieces, and solve a jigsaw to get a moon would be neat.) And Isle Delfino. (This can be a throwback level like how Galaxy 2 had a throwback level from 64, Odyssey 2 could do the same. Petey Piranha can return as a boss, and maybe be able to be captured. Imagine Bianco Hills as a throwback level along Delfino Plaza as a throwback hub world.) Returning kingdoms from the first game. The Ruined Kingdom, cloud kingdom, and Snow kingdom should be expanded on more. I want to see Bowser Jr, and Kamek in this game. For this game's plot, Bowser hires the broodals again, but has Bowser Jr to take control over them. Broodals could return. Or even maybe the Koopalings can appear. Each koopaling could be a boss for kingdom. Here me out, I know they're reused a lot in NSMB games, but that's 2D Mario. Koopalings in 3D Mario could actually be expanded and be even better than their boss fights in the 2D Games. Koopalings can replace the Broodals, but the Broodals can still return as like secret bosses. Or could be the other way around. There could be another dark side like level. In Mario Galaxy 2, in World S, there's level called boss blitz. And it brings back Galaxy 1 bosses. So Odyssey 2 could do that exact same thing and bring back bosses from Odyssey 1, and those bosses are the broodals. I wanna see more characters make cameos in this game. Toadette, Pauline, and Toad were in Odyssey 1 as NPCs. I would love to see Daisy, Wario, Walugi, and Donkey Kong all as NPCs. Or maybe a reference to Wario and Walugi as Easter egg. New Donk City had many areas 80s arcade DK themed. I would love to see Donkey Kong himself in the game. Or at least a Easter egg. Donkey Kong Island could appear on the globe as a reference. Not playable, but there as a Easter egg. And lastly, I wanna see Luigi playable. Maybe for this game's plot, Cappy could have a long lost brother, and teams up with Luigi. Or just another Cap kingdom citizen can team up with Luigi. Either way, I wanna see him playable. And Multiplayer co op that has Mario and Luigi. Edited, I have one more thing I want the game to have lives and a game over screen.
That first part is a straight up lie. Odyssey had all the elements and more that made Mario, Mario. The toy-like look works for 3D World, not Odyssey. Odyssey looks so much better.
@@catmario-_3170 I see where you're coming from, and I guess it's all a thing of personal opinion. Personally I think the more classic Mario aesthetic could be really neat in a few kingdoms, but as far as character rendering goes I personally prefer Odyssey's more realistic aesthetic over the toy like look of 3D world. It isn't bad for sure, and as I said would work wonderfully with certain worlds if implemented well (look at how contrasting some of the Odyssey kingdoms artstyles already are) but in 3D world the characters look like they're made of plastic and I think that suits it's own fun aesthetic rather than Odyssey's slightly more 'real' and exploration based format.
@@catmario-_3170 I guess there could have been more traditional enemies, but you always need to have new and interesting enemies as well. And no, Odyssey doesn't lack anything that makes Mario, Mario. I have no clue what you mean by that.
what i want in oddesy 2 is for one player to control mario and a second player to control peach. and for big enemies like the dinosaur, both players could capture them at the same time and each control part of the enemy
all i want is for them to remove motion control/gyro from their games, specially Odyssy 2 even tho on the first game was "minimal" but it aint for me. Or at least add the option to disable it for people who enjoy those things to play with them.
l liked odyssey well enough my first time through, but l feel really little urge to play it again. The game was just kinda all over the place (no pun intended) and while the transformations were cool in concept, almost all of them were too limited imo and were only useful for the specific obstacles right next to them. Almost any other time you'd actually prefer to be regular mario since he was the most mobile all around and quite fun to control. l also personally got kinda desensitized to moons as they were Literally everywhere and most of them are obtained by extremely trivial tasks/busywork. Like l said l still liked it well enough my first time through, but to me it feels like a lot of wasted potential overall, which is a shame :/
Arlo: "Mario and Cappy. Peach and Tiara. You don't need me to continue. You know exactly what I'm gonna say." Me: "Bowser and Top Hat! Giving Bowser's hat some personality to continue the trend of..." Arlo: "I want to play as Peach and Tiara." Me: "Oh."
Personally I would much rather have a Mario Galaxy 3. Even a Super Mario 64 or Sunshine 2. Odyssey just wasn't that fun in my opinion. I enjoyed it when every star/shine in the original games took effort to obtain, with odyssey I just couldn't help but get bored, it wasn't a bad game at all or even my least favourite 3D Mario game but it is definitely not above Galaxy, 64 or Sunshine imo. I just hated the moon system completely and I loved the original styles of 3D Mario.
odyssey’s main story is pretty good, but the postgame is.. i wanted to 100% the game... and couldn’t because there is no dopamine loop, and i got so bored..
Yoshion. I agree on prefer the Galaxy games over Odyssey. But 64 & Sunshine above Odyssey? Eh. Sorry, but no. 64 & Sunshine have not age well gameplay wise.
Even more so than Cascade and Hat Kingdom, the Ruined Kingdom had so much potential. I'm not the kinda guy who wants or thinks placing Mario in gritty settings is a good idea in general, but a one level devoted to that atmosphere in a game intended to put Mario in weird environments would have been very cool and fitting. The fact there was only a boss there makes me think Nintendo really did have a castle level on the drawing board that wound up on the chopping block instead.
Absolutely no idea how I forgot this one, but NO MOVES TIED EXCLUSIVELY TO MOTION CONTROLS.
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Let me hit you with this:
After the ending of the first game with everyone trying to marry her, Peach gets fed up and goes on her own vacation/sabbatical to a far-off destination. But a few weeks pass and she doesn't come back on time. She's lost, through no fault of anyone. Mario and Bowser both hear about this, and out of both genuine and feigned concern for her, both set out to find and rescue her.
- This puts another spin on the kidnapping trope, but most importantly puts Mario and Bowser *alongside* each other for the whole game, in direct competition and perhaps even begrudging cooperation.
- This also lets you completely break the linearity, because if you're just trying to find where Peach got lost, you could basically start the search anywhere and go from there.
- And (I think you brought this up with Paper Mario) it also gives Peach some agency and also hey hey! The ability to play as her during intermission chapters, in some wild jungle that she's trying to find her way through
Genius
A genuine dream but hard to be true in Nintendo’s eyes, I love it
This idea sounds too cool for Nintendo to ever actually do.
Maybe they'll start actually experimenting with Mario stories once Miyamoto is dead.
Good idea, but it doesn't seem likely.
But Peach already went on her own vacation in Odyssey after the game ends.
My number one hope for Super Mario Odyssey 2 is… Nintendo is actually being smart and actually making a Mario Odyssey 2
Ikr
Cue Super Mario 3d World 2
They struck gold with oddysey one I think it wouldn’t be hard to do it again
I’d prefer galaxy 3 but I’ll take all the Mario I can get
Smart part is ez and maybe they might announced Mario Odyssey 2 unless it's New super Mario bros 3
I really don't want outfits to have particular abilities. Because then you're choosing the outfit that has the best ability for what you're trying to achieve, instead of the one that looks coolest.
What if outfits share abilities instead of giving them all unique ones.
For example, some outfits increase jumping while others increase health.
This way you have more choices for looks.
They could just give Mario an ability tree
Have layered outfits like in Monster Hunter😂 I'm fine with throwing sentient head attire and possessing the bodies of the indigenous peoples of the land.
@Joshua White perfect example
@@bfnmo7750 that would just not work
I hope Mario Odyssey 2 is actually happening and Nintendo is waiting fo the right time to announce it very close to it's release
If odyssey 2 ever does happen I swear Bowser Junior and Kamek better be in it. It made absolutely no sense that they were in the first game considering Kamek raised Bowser so why wouldn’t he be at the wedding. They could’ve made him the priest that would’ve been perfect and jrs debut game what about him kidnapping peach because he wanted her to be his mom so why wouldn’t he be at the wedding
True... hopefully
@@barelyhere7200 Honestly, Bowser JR is just my favorite character in general so I wanted him in anyways, but your point really makes them needed in the game
I could even see them waiting for whatever comes after the Switch to make Odyssey 2.
That is best case scenario for sure lol
I forget the video but someone suggested that Wario and Waluigi could revealed to be the Crazy Cap owners and be the main antagonists of the sequel. That would be fresh af.
Also, I like the Broodals as well, and I could see them working for the mad Diamond City mogul next time around.
Peach and Tiara is a perfect idea for local two player.
I remember that Wario & Waluigi idea too , i believe it was SMT ..supermarioT : what i want for mario odyssey 2 ...I also liked his thoughts of haveing a couple of more new vocals songs , for Pauline or better Rosalina , plus bring back her dropped guitarist comtume...💙🌟 if anyone is curious to try his video sometime ..
i also just like the idea of Nintendo writing stories of Mario & Luigi trying to help out or rescue Pauline, Daisy.. & Rosalina again form other villains for a change in other games not just a odyssey sequel
Wario being the secret owner of Crazy Cap would be an amazingly awesome reveal while still being entirely in character for him considering he literally owns another company in WarioWare, Inc.
I still think revisiting a few reimagined levels from 64 and Sunshine would be cool.
... mainly I just wanna see Delfino Plaza given the Mario Odyssey treatment.
Yeah! like throwback galaxy
Why stop there? Why not adapt the _entire_ Isle Delfino, since the hardware is now strong enough that they could make it one big continuous location if they wanted?
I think they can implement small areas as a call back to a specific part of another previous existing level, but as its own entire world - I just think thats too much.
Nintendo fans are so predictable lol. A little nostalgic level and they're immediately in.
It worked on me with the Mushroom Kingdom in Odyssey.
@@king_big_pp Never have I been offended by something I completely agree with.
Mario captured a Tyrannosaurus Rex in Odyssey, so the next most-logical step is for him to capture Godzilla in Odyssey 2.
He basically did at the end.
Imagine you get to capture the Lord of Lightning!
I'm thinking a dragon, which makes me think SMO2 should be a time-travel adventure where you now visit the Mushroomverse version of different eras such as Medieval Europe and Ancient Egypt. Maybe we could see the Mushroom Kingdom, Sarasaland, etc. in the distant past?
Or capture a giant ape. Hmm, if only there was a giant ape in Mario.....
@@Antasma1 www.metacritic.com/search/game/mario/results?sort=score
Biggest hope for Odyssey 2: Is that there is one
It’s been 4 years with no announcement :(
@@bigtree0079 i think it will come next year
I don't think it's coming tbh, its been 4 years and bowsers fury just released
@@danielarputharaj9918 well I can always hold on to the little hope I have left :(
@@bigtree0079 that's fair enough
Personally, I don't think they should really push a direct sequel to mario oddysey (i. e. no big number 2 on that title among other things) but would take a Mario game which carries on the spirit of oddysey (while hopefully still keeping cappy because movement with cappy is so good)
I feel that Oddysey is it's own game for sure and having a second game in the same series would lessen the novelty of both
But maybe that's just me
ARLO, what about Kingdoms based on Past Locations??? Isle Delfino, Sarasaland, Yoshi's Island, DK Island.
I know right? I think he forgot, Arlo has always wanted Delfino Plaza at least, as do we all.
How could you fail to mention anything from 64?
That would be so rad
@@otherrad1240 idk, i've never been sure that those are "real locations" in the sense that they're located on mario's planet. i always assumed they were alternate worlds/dimensions or something lol
@@broncos435
Whomp’s Fortress literally exists within Mario’s galaxy.
Rather than moons, I think the things hidden in random spots that reward your exploration should be, like... some kind of customization items. I like the idea of buying souvenirs and costumes with coins, I want them to keep that, so the hidden things could be, like... I dunno, artifacts? Maybe make the Odyssey 2 a big ship with several rooms and allow you to decorate it however you want. Allow you to buy or find gifts for Peach.
The gifts for Peach could be how you unlock her. You have to appease her enough that she finally revokes her friend-zoning on Mario!
I started playing Hollow Knight a few days ago and one thing I've noticed in it is how there's a whole variety of different types of collectibles/objectives in there - charms, geo, containers for masks and soul, the spells, movement options, the nail arts, relics, essence and so on - and all of them have their own value and purpose (even the rancid eggs) yet it doesn't feel convoluted at all. Instead, whenever I get an item, I feel like I've progressed as the item will help out in the long run for sure (yes, even the rancid eggs). As a result feel satisfied and feel whatever journey or challenge I've made in order to get that item is made worth it. The whole variety of items covering different aspects of the game such as exploration, combat, and the economy means that whenever I get an item, I'm always excited at the chance it helps me reach new areas or make a boss easier or allows me to upgrade my nail, et cetera. Thus, every item feels worth getting.
This is something I'd love to see a "Mario Oddysey 2" or just any mainline Mario in the future do: make it feel like areas you explore and items you collect as result have a lasting impact on the feeling of progression in the game. Coins in oddysey don't hold any real weight as you can't truly lose coins except from spending them (or being exceptionally bad at the game but that's unlikely) as well as the fact that most of the things you buy with coins are purely cosmetic. Moons obviously have more importance than coins, yet still have weaknesses. As standardised collectibles they don't give unique sense of accomplishment at the end of the day. As a hard moon to get has the exact same value as an easy moon, which isn't too much of a problem in other games, but in Oddysey with how easy a lot of moons are to find, it's harder to feel accomplished about getting a moon from doing a difficult challenge when you can also find moons just sitting in the trash (literally). This wouldn't be so bad if it was like spirit orbs in botw - there, the more you had, the more health or stamina you'd have, so you'd always want more of them. However, you only needs a certain amount of moons from each kingdom to get to the next kingdom ,and some kingdoms just don't require moons at all, so it doesn't really matter if you decide to go for the hard ones or not unless you go for 100 % completion. Combined with the sheer amount of them, they feel really low value as a result, especially compared to the collectibles of past 3d games like 64, galaxy and sunshine. (Doesn't help that you can buy as many moons as you want and that each moon is only 100 coins).
So, TL;DR isbasically just agreeing with why having unique items with justifiable purposes is gud
And keys post-game so that you can unlock the painting room doors in Peach’s Castle
Still waiting for the holiday themed DLC for the first game
Still waiting for that hooker dlc :(
still waiting for my New Donk City Mighty Banana Pizza DLC :
My dream Odyssey sequel would actually be a Galaxy sequel that combines Odyssey’s gameplay with Galaxy’s settings
Took the words right out of my… brain
Super Mario A Space Odyssey. Or Super Mario Universal Odyssey.
Galaxy but they use a good camera.
Bowser’s Kingdom in Odyssey was basically a Galaxy level. The electric poles you use to travel between segments served the same purpose as launch stars.
Wish we had a haunted Kingdom where you could explore a graveyard haunted courtyard/mansion and capturing boos!We also need Luigi playable! What I loved about the Galaxy games!
This. So many of odyssey's kingdoms just felt a bit boring to navigate, but a multileveled, broken down boo mansion has so much potential to be a great playground to move around in and explore. On the outside, it'd look less like a traditional boo house, and more like an overdesigned, misshapen victorian mansion, with extra rooms, ledges, balconies, and towers jutting out of it all over the place. As you explore the mansion and find a path up to the top, you could find yourself moving along both its inside and outside, and this irregular external structure would help to make that more interesting.
@Joshua White www.metacritic.com/search/game/mario/results?sort=score
Exactly what I was thinking! There could be there capturable Poltergust looking things with four wheels so you can suck up ghosts for moons and stuff
Maybe for a hub world-ish type thing you could just kinda chill in the sky on the Odyssey mid-flight? Like you could walk around the inside and outside of the Odyssey while the ship was moving. You could even ask Cappy for tips and change your outfit. They could even add a telescope so you could explore your surrounds! And you could decide which kingdoms to go from there.
Imagine if Nintendo replaced the "unimportant" moons from the first game with a collectable that unlocked linear, focused platforming challenges? Everyone wins!
Great idea.
This is effectively how Mario odyssey one works
So like what they did with darker side of the moon?
no, galaxy 3 please
Yeah that would work well. It would definitely make me like an odyssey styled game more since I prefer mario 3d worlds linear style to mario odyssey's open worlds.
We’ve played super Mario odyssey, when does super Mario Iliad come out
Bro, can't wait for Super Mario: Siege of Troy
Can't wait for Mario and Cappy on a war lol
My hope is that the tiny worlds from Odyssey 1 get expanded into actual big worlds.
Mainly Cap Kingdom and Ruined Kingdom because they've got so much potential.
Maybe Cloud Kingdom too. I don't see much potential in that one, though it looks great.
I'm just saying.
Peach has Tiara. She can function just as Cappy.
She has her own selection of outfits like Mario does.
You'll satisfy people who don't want Peach to be another damsel.
It's too good an opportunity to pass up, Nintendo.
I would suggest a compromise: Mario saves Peach again, but this time Peach becomes unlocked as a player character afterward.
Let’s rescue Luigi this time or something
@@aggressivelymediocre350 I'll do you one better, we rescue Bowser from an even bigger antagonist.
@@sharkythegw7843 Yes, but once you free bowser. He begins to terrorize previous locations, adding even MORE content from the game.
But who wants to play a frail skinny and small person with very clear physical limitations
The discussion around Odyssey has changed since its release. A lot of people are now complaining how structureless it was and how unrewarding the experience it
This sudden shift of public opinion is shocking. Especially since BoTW is still well-regarded.
I frequent Zelda groups there are many who consider it not a Zelda game and the worst in the series.
I personally can’t go back to botw after a second play through that felt completely broken, it’s just to easy to become OP if you just know where to get the good items and then hoard food. I really hope they fix some things in the sequel.
Conversations do tend shift on big releases, mostly just because people get fed up with the other point of view dominating the dialogue. Breath of the Wild has the same thing. Even some years back, there were videos going over the problems with it.
It's a balance that should exist anyway, but since people are so prone to going all in on one point of view OR the other, opinions tend to go really hard one way for a while and then get a backlash in the other direction later.
Don't know why. The game wasn't structureless at all and is very rewarding. People like to blow the whole "meaningless moons" thing WAY out of proportion. There's only like three or four I can think that were just out in the open. Odyssey's not a perfect game, no game is, but it's an extremely good one. Some people just make little gripes into huge problems because there's not much bad to say about the game.
@@chrange9714 Yeah but those three to four were reused in nearly every single kingdom and even reused multiple times in the same kingdom. Ex: moons where you groundpound a random spot or catch a bird. If they had half as many moons, they could have put a bit more effort into making them more fun to collect.
A "Peach's Odyssey" would be very entertaining. I would buy it sight unseen. But im also sure that would be a gamble on Nintendo's part. Similar mechanics and naturally add in loads of costumes and outfits (wich may have slight mechanical differences.) A hub world could be of the castle or maybe an airship commandeered from Bowser's military. A story about uncovering artifacts (moons) from the ancient hat civilization, or something that gives answers for the random elder souls dragon. It could be everything Arlo is asking for.
Playable Peach and Tiara is a must for me. Imagine all of the cute outfits you could dress Peach in. 🥺
Or they could just make a little kid’s dressing game for Peach
Jk
Would be perfect tbh
My favorite part of the game was how Cappy added to Mario's jump toolbox. I would love the ability to play as the core four characters, with their own Cappy movesets added in. As you said, it would be cool to play as peach/tiara with hover move worked into the platforming. But Luigi and Toad have some cool potential too.
For a hub world, maybe this time instead of an airship we sail to kingdoms on a big yacht/cruise ship and that can act as a hub.
frick yeah, super mario yacht club
@@chickennugget6684 www.metacritic.com/search/game/mario/results?sort=score
-honestly, I don't think an Oddyssey 2 would really need a Hu World, that's basically what the kingdoms are, but yeah riding the ship over the world freely would be cute
-the biggest problem with the Moons is that there's a THOUSAND of them, & most of the issues in this video come from the fact that there are more moons than what the Dev Team could manage: if you remove most of the Moons that are just Laying there or tied to talking to NPCs you basically remove the need for the store
-yea expanding the smaller kingdoms would be neat, & actually adding Isla Delfino would be so cool
-YES! Playable Peach & Tiara!! do it you cowards!!
I have a few things I would want.
- Add shoes to costomizable clothing.
- Make more big levels, but not just that. Have levels where they don't seem very big, but have multiple hidden areas that increase the size of the level significantly.
- bigger punishment for death. If you want to stick with the coins, how about 100 coins or make it costomizable so you can chose how harsh it will be.
- Multiple playable characters.
- Multiplayer. At minimum, you should be able to play with someone on a different switch.
I absolutely hated the fact that you could buy unlimited moons. Made moons feel even more worthless than they already felt.
Maybe have it so that different missions award different rarities of moons.
Easy Missions (Ground Pounding, Tracewalking, Plain Sight): Power Moon (1 Moon)
Medium Missions (Challenge Rooms, Sheep Herding, Minigames): Dual Moon (2 Moons)
Tricky Missions (Harder Challenge Rooms, Koopa Freerunning Master Cup, Normal Story Missions): Trinity Moon (3 Moons)
Hard Missions (Trickier Story Missions, Prankster Moons, Miniboss Fights): Quad Moon (4 Moons)
Brutal Missions (Hard Platforming Sections, Hard Prankster Moons, Main Boss Fights): Grand Moon (5 Moons)
How does that make them worthless? You still have to put in a considerable amount of time and effort into obtaining the coins to buy them in the first place, especially in large numbers.
@@electr_icity4613 You can max out your coin counter in 5 minutes if you play balloon world at a kingdom with a coin boost lmao.
@@electr_icity4613you play galaxy and you have a challenge to get a star
You play odyssey and the "challenge" is to get a moon by buying it
My idea for an Odyssey 2:
Mario, Cappy, Peach, and Tiara are enjoying a trip through space in the Odyssey. Suddenly, an asteroid shoots them out of the Odyssey, separating them and having them land on an alien planet (that explains the new levels!) With this, you play as both Mario and Peach in their own kingdoms, as they try to get back together in the middle of the planet. Peach and Tiara will play differently to Mario and Cappy, too. :)
Edit: I commented this before Arlo said it LMAO
I don't understand how every RUclips Under the sun seems to be sponsored by Raycon when the internet is almost entirely negative about them. Is is a cash crab or part of some RUclips contract?
When things like Raycon get someone like Arlo, typically Arlo has to sign a contract saying "I'll only say good stuff about them for X amount of time." regardless of if Arlo likes them or not. He is legally bound to follow that. No choice.
10:35 debut of the Koopalings in a 3D Mario game
Arlo before Odessy: “More Sandbox!”
Arlo after Odessy: “More Linear!”
😅😹.
"More Macaroni!"
@@_-Lx-_ and more breadsticks while we’re at it. 🤤.
@@_-Lx-_ "More cheese AND macaroni!"
@@kaching7204 I kick children
Odyssey is going on 4 years now. Nintendo likes to release new mario games anywhere from 3-5 years so it's likely we will see a new game before the end of 2022
9:19 isn’t he forgetting deep woods? I know that it’s kinda separated from the rest of the kingdom, but dang it, it’s my favorite part of the kingdom.
On the merging sandbox and linear Mario games, they just need to use A Hat in Time's format. Have multiple different worlds with multiple levels in each where some of the worlds are more sandbox and others are more linear. A Hat in Time also solved the too many moon issue by having yarn as a 'middle tier' collectable tied to progression (unlocking hats) that could fill the areas that were too easy for a time piece but needed something to reward exploration.
I agree
then you just a hat in time, not mario
I want Daisy, Wario, and Waluigi. After all this time, we need a mainline Mario game with all of these characters interacting.
A fun twist for a Mario Game that may fit Odyssey 2:
Both Mario AND Bowser are trying to rescue Princess Peach from a NEW Villain.
Hear me out! Bowser clearly wants Peach for himself and Mario is always trying to save Peach. But WHAT IF someone got to Peach before Bowser?!
You can spend the game racing through worlds and occasionally bumping into Bowser. So the mini-bosses can be fighting Bowser as they stumble over each others’ toes.
Then the final battle is Mario and Bowser having to team up (like when using Cappy on Bowser in the secret ending”).
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I'd like to see returning to previous kingdoms. Not the same stage, but a different area of that kingdom. It feels almost perfect since each stage has a separate name for its specific location and the kingdom is just the greater location so it could have more stages within it.
Would let the devs flesh out underutilised themes (Ruined Kingdom especially) or put a spin on previous stages themes. But they should still also include completely new kingdoms too. I think it should be about a 50/50 split between new and old.
New areas of the same kingdoms would make sense.
Exactly. Why only the moon has a "dark side"? We **need** an alternate, more challenging version of every area. Nintendo has an excuse to reuse most of the assets and can even sell it as DLC for 20 EuroDollas. Everyone is happy!
how about a cappy game, you played as cappy and complete challage only using captures
What I would love:
-I would love the whole game to be the HUD world. Like in Bowser's Fury, just have the whole game be interconnected :0
-Have more purple coins instead of extra way-to-easy-to-find Power Moons
-Let me use cannons from Mario 64!
-Have costumes from other Nintendo games! Imagine getting to dress Mario like Link, Captain Falcon, Olimar, or even more obscure characters like Takamaru!
-Let me capture Bowser Jr in the Clown Car :0
-Let me fight a boss fight while capturing Bowser :D
-Kingdom Ideas: Giant Kingdom (You explore a GIANT house as a tiny mario!), Ruined Kingdom (I know it's already technically a kingdom, but only lasts for one boss fight. It would be awesome to see this kingdom expanded upon. maybe it could be haunted!), and Sahrasala Kingdom (Based on Super Mario Land, and Daisy's there too!)
My 3 biggest hopes for Odyssey 2 are
1. More emphasis on platforming
2. Higher difficulty
3. Include the Koopalings so we can finally have them in a 3D Mario game
No offense but I completely hate your third hope😂
Yea you had till ya lost me at the end
Koopaling haters.
Koopalings would actually be a good idea.
@@catmario-_3170 I’m sick of fighting them in the 2D games, but I’d love to see them in a 3D Mario game
My hopes for it:
-Have the hub world be a way bigger version of the airship
-Be an actual continuation with a new story instead of a reboot
-Sarasaland and Daisy
Easier way to make Odyssey 2’s difficulty able to please everyone:
… have a difficulty option so people don’t complain about it being too easy or too hard so nobody complains so much that they add an unnecessarily difficult side mode that’ll make u wanna break ur controller.
We seriously need some form of difficulty option in more games.
I’d love to hear (technically read about) how u feel about this.
I’d be willing to sacrifice Odyssey 2 in exchange for the rumored 3D Donkey Kong by the odyssey team
Amen! 👏
for the new nintendo switch
The fact that we’ve gotten no dlc gives me hope
@A B www.metacritic.com/search/game/mario/results?sort=score
That Pikmin 4 thought bubble makes me smile now.😁
I see you in all the cool places. You feel iconic.
If Mario and Peach might be playable, might as well throw in Luigi, Daisy, Wario, and Waluigi. Give them a reason to exist outside sports.
Also, I hope bosses are a bit more sophisticated and take more than 3 hits to beat.
Lastly, let's solve the mystery behind Bowser Jr.'s and Koopalng's biological Mom...
i was looking away from the screen when you were shuddering so i instinctively thought you were talking about origami king. when i rewinded and saw it was andromeda i thought it was hilarious because i had no idea you had ever done a video on that game.
My biggest hope is more involved/complex platforming sequences. My first few runs through Mario Odyssey were some of the most fun I've ever had in a video game ever, but now that I've seen everything it has to offer, the fundamental lack or challenge at it's core means there really isn't a ton of incentive for me to return since I'm not into speed running.
It's what made me really not enjoy the game in the first place. Bowser's Fury is absolutely great, though.
#makegalaxy3
@@tony88lee Galaxy 2 is best Mario game period.
Thirteen. Bowser's Fury isn't even that better. It's platforming design are very cryptic, too much repetition going on & Bowser's Fury himself is so annoying. I liked the concept of it. But ultimately. It's worst than Odyssey.
@@jaretco6423 Cryptic? Sounds like hmm...
An exploration based platformer!
I dunno, having played Banjo, SM64, Ratchet, Jak, Spyro, Odyssey just felt like the worlds weren't about traversing worlds at all, just like pixel hunting doors leading to minigames, or moons. In Fury, you at least need to platform to reach places.
That's kind of the point of these games. Odyssey is an outlier.
I just want Donkey Kong Jr. to be relevant again...
My idea for odyssey 2 involves the Kong family, it could start with Cranky Kong looking at a photo album, and we can see young versions of Cranky, Mario, Pauline and DK Jr. It focuses on DK Jr. and a tear drops on the photo. Cranky starts to sniffle and Donkey Kong places his hand on Cranky’s shoulder, they both share a look at each other and then they sit together and look at the horizon, are they expecting something? Suddenly they see a boat in the ocean, it’s definitely coming this way! They stand up and hurry to the beach to receive the visitors. Once the boat that’s getting closer they are immediately disappointed, there isn’t any monkeys on board but they can definitely recognize some faces, It’s Mario and Pauline and they are riding the Odyssey on the water. Cranky gets frustrated and starts to leave before the Odyssey could arrive. Donkey Kong stays to receive Mario and Pauline, they arrive and tell Donkey Kong they want to talk to Crank and him about DK Jr. with a concerned look on their faces. Donkey Kong panics, Mario reassures Donkey Kong and tells him that DK Jr. (who lives in New Donk City as the head accountant at city hall) is ok but has become a bit of a workoholic. DK Jr. is basically living in city hall working everyday and Pauline was trying to get him to take a vacation but he just won’t budge. Mario and Pauline want Donkey and Cranky to go to New Donk City and talk to DK Jr. into taking a vacation. Cranky, who was hiding hearing their conversation, comes out and start yelling at Pauline, “this is your fault!!!” “My boy won’t visit because of you!!! “You’re overworking him, he shouldn’t be a slave he should be free!!!”. Cranky’s words echoes, Pauline takes a step toward Cranky and he steps back, Pauline stops and says “DK Jr. is our best accountant, he chose to work for city hall on his own, and he can leave whenever he wants but chooses to bury himself with work. Every year I tell him take a break, go visit your family, please they must be worried sick, but this year, he just doesn’t want to leave work. Please he needs your help, come with us and talk to your son”. Cranky gather his thoughts, “I can finally see my son? But that accursed place, the last time I was there-“ Mario interrupts, “Cranky, I know you have some bad memories about New Donk City but I promise I won’t force you to do something you’re uncomfortable with, I’m a changed man, truly, and I want to help you.” Cranky stays silent, Donkey Kong looks at him in the eyes and says “it’s been so long since I’ve seen my dad, let’s go visit him, grandpa” Cranky responds “yes, let’s go visit your father” with a smile on his face. They all board the Odyssey and head towards New Donk City...
I was thinking that when they get to New Donk City, DK Jr. is either kidnapped or rampaging because of mind control, I like the latter because Pauline could write and sing a song about DK Jr. to snap him out of the mind control. Anyways that’s enough fan fiction for one day.
So basically a Mario/Donkey Kong crossover game. Your idea can be used for entirely for another game outside of mainline Mario. That is a extremely unlikely idea for a 3D Mario game. And your idea doesn't make any sense. I don't hate your idea or against it, but your idea doesn't make any sense though for a 3D Mario game.
@@catmario-_3170 yeah, anything that can be used to bring Donkey Kong Jr. back even if he’s just an NPC like Pauline.
I really hope Odyssey 2 comes out, the first super mario odyssey is my favorite video game of all time, and a sequel would be fantastic
On the Peach and Tiara thing: Luigi and Pauline also have iconic hats, the game could even have 4-player co-op
My guess/hope as to why it’s taken so long is that it was planned as DLC before they switched to making a sequel, they had to pause development for 3D World+Bowser’s Fury, and are now back to work on Odyssey 2.
Has Arlo never heard of the expression “if you try to please everyone you’ll please no one”?
Arlo: We need to make this a game that can please absolutely everyone.
Also Arlo: But not the casual fans. Make this game super hard so only the hardcore adult Mario fans can play.
mario odyssey 2 is coming for arlo, anyone not arlo can't enjoy it
Here's and entire pitch for Super Mario Odyssey 2:
I think one thing to add to Cappy's movement would be "cappy surfing". Cappy surfing would make it so Mario could jump onto cappy, but instead of him bouncing up, he would ride cappy like a hover board for like 5 seconds. This would add a whole new layer to SMO speedrunning.
Also, for SMO 2 story, bowser would kidnap peach again, but this time, Bowser is trying to collect all of the "ultra hats". Ultra hats are hats which would kinda function like the emeralds from the sonic games. If you collect every ultra hat you would transform into something similar to Super Sonic. There is one ultra hat in every kingdom you play through in SMO 2. Mario will collect every ultra hat, but at the end of the game, bowser will take all the ultra hats from mario and become *ultra bowser* [He'll look similar to Giga Bowser from smash bros].
For boss fights, you will fight the Broodals again, but they will be competing with the Flockers, which is a another group hired by bowser, to stop mario. The Flockers are an all birds group consisting of a turkey, chicken, hen, rooster, and a robotic chicken. Also, instead of having the mother broodal, they should instead put the father broodal for this game.
The last kingdom for the original SMO was the mushroom kingdom, I think this time the last kingdom should be the Delphino Kingdom. Now, alot of people thought of this too, but didnt really have an idea of how it would work. I think that instead of just having the entire delphino island to explore, the entire island would be flooded with water. This would make sense, since in the original SMO it showed delphino to be covered with water on the map. The only remaining parts of the original delphino island would be the volcano and delphino plaza. The rest of the kingdom will be completely brand new. There will be like 30 islands scattered across the large body of water. Meanwhile, under water, there will be plenty of things to explore including, the brand new, delphino city which is a futuristic city under water. The delphino kingdom will be 3 times the size of Sand Kingdom.
Now the last thing I have to say is, people really want use F.L.U.D.D. again. I think, in order to incorporate F.L.U.D.D., there will a robotic Mario with F.L.U.D.D. on his back, that you can capture. On land, F.L.U.D.D. will work just like it did in Mario Sunshine, But under water, F.L.U.D.D. will work like an under jetpack that you can use to maneuver through the large space of water in Delphino Kingdom.
My only hope for Super Mario Odyssey 2 is that it's real
Imagine this:
-Luigi is playable from the start, with him and Mario having little differences in their gameplay and even interacting with each other. When playing as one, the other could follow you around, giving you the option to switch anytime. There could be puzzles where only one bro can complete them, giving insentive to use both. Plus, I’d love for them to actually talk to each other in cutscenes and during the gameplay, talking about things involving the kingdom around them. This mechanic could serve as a good way to bring people in too.
-Wario and Waluigi are secondary villains, serving Bowser purely for the money. However, when Bowser refuses to pay them, they defect to your side in the final sequence, allowing you to play as them in the rest of the game. This would be Wario’s first mainline appearance since the super Mario land games and Waluigi’s first mainline appearance ever.
-Delfino Plaza and Toad Town return to the series as kingdoms, with Toad Town presenting a different look at the mushroom kingdom away from the castle. You can explore Mario and Luigi’s home in the outskirts of the town, where the Odyssey would be parked, and a large market could be going on in the town itself to make it feel like a unique kingdom. Delfino Plaza would pretty much stay the same. There could even be little voice lines between the bros about how Luigi’s never been there before, as a nod to his absence in Sunshine.
-Kingdoms like New Donk City return from the original Super Mario Odyssey, to add a bit more to connect the games.
-Goomboss and Petey Piranha return as kingdom bosses for Toad Town and Delfino Plaza respectively, stating that they owed Bowser a favour. King Boo could also return for a haunted mansion Kingdom, to mirror Luigi and Mario’s levels of familiarity with Delfino Plaza by swapping it for the original mansion from Luigi’s Mansion.
And that’s all my ideas. Essentially, I’d like the next Odyssey game to feel a little more connected with the Mario Universe as a whole, bringing back a bunch of older locations and revamping them to give them the Odyssey treatment. That and making this game a little look into how Mario and Luigi act with each other in regular scenarios, especially in postgame content.
The Raycon cinematic universe is my favorite youtube lore story
We live in a world where we got a sequel to frickin’ Splatoon before a new Mario. Splatoon… a game that essentially hasn’t changed since it’s first installment on the Wii U.
how has it not changed
@@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101Sorry but slight tweaks and a couple new modes don't constitute changes. They're largely the same game 3 times.
While listening to your ideas for peach, I thought about another idea: What if inbetween worlds, we saw small sneak peeks about what peach is doing, but, bear with me here, we actually got to control peach and influence the story? I personally think that would be pretty cool
Like Ciri's role in the Witcher 3
Like Paper Mario TTYD
Or peach in the paper Mario games
Arlo's vision for Nintendo and their future games is more interesting than what Nintendo themselves come up with.
I think having Bowser Jr be the main villain would be a good way to differentiate Odyssey 2 from the first game
Bowser Jr would be an interesting take on the main villain. Maybe Bowser is away and he leaves Bowser Jr to his own devices? I'd honestly love to see Wario and Waluigi act as recurring rivals to impeded Mario and co's progress.
@@mattb6522 going off of that, if they made Luigi playable and his hat could take over creatures or interact with environments that Mario’s couldn’t that could potentially make it more interesting
@@TheTabaK23 Yeah, that would be interesting if they had different playable characters like Luigi or Peach that could have like exclusive captures or areas. As long as it doesn't reach Donkey Kong 64 levels of exclusive collectibles.
Okay this will sound stupid, but what of the villains are space hornets, but different from the bees in Galaxy.
That way this story can be about resorts. You know, a *Honeymoon*
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Idea. Odyssey 2 has a hub set on a boat. Like a cruise ship or something. You hang out on the boat while traveling to other kingdoms
I wish they would put the Koopalings in a 3D Mario game.
I had an idea that instead of bowser being the villain, how about wario and have him also be able to capture stuff
Darn I thought I missed an announcement trailer or something. I was so excited to do the Mario.
15:42 Arlo's speaking syncs well with the character movements
Arlo is the only person to make me want to watch his sponsored segments. There SO funny! It’s amazing!
Actually, I last year dreamed with Super Mario Odyssey 3.
It started on a (lazy) final battle area set up high in the Sky, above a mountainous location (like Sonic Heroes's first Sonic CGi, but way too high above it, to the point the second half of the background was just the Sky almost at night).
The platform itself was just a big circle with a purple carpet, and around there were ¿floating ropes? holding candles with fire.
Bowser had a Roller Coeaster skeleton like machine, and he used it to throw Mario way too far away to the left corner of the map, making him land on an snowy area.
The map was like Breath of The Wild, everything was interconnected.
The Snowy area had a gigantic green pipe, as in gigantic enough to fill a complete Mall in there.
Also, Mario was able to get back to the final battle area practically whenever he wanted to, just climbing between "?" Blocks placed around the world.
I actually awoke while I was jumping the last set of blocks to return to the fight.
Considering they are making a sequel for BotW, I think they should make one for SMO as well.
no, super mario odyssey didn't ease casual into the game like botw do, universe(galaxy 2 sequel) will be better.
@@tony88lee Odyssey sold twice as much as Galaxy, so I'm not sure what you're saying
@@tony88leeodyssey sold more lol, plus is casual as hell. Just because is not linear doesn't mean is less casual, the game is the most accesible thing on the planet
My hopes for Mario Odyssey 2: Please exist
The big thing for me would be to not go overboard with moon placement... After awhile they just stopped feeling rewarding to grab because of how pointlessly placed they were in some levels.
There's only like three or four moons that are just out in the open, not a lot at all like you make it sound.
@@chrange9714 Not just ones sitting in the open. But ones that have absolutely no chalenge to getting are the ones I meant.
Ones like "Ground pound X obvious spot that isn't even hidden" ones
@@Yarharsuperpirate The challenge is finding where they're buried. Not every moon has to have a giant challenge behind it. Barely any of them are in obvious spots. They're scattered all over in different locations pretty well hidden. Especially those picture ones with Poochy.
@@chrange9714 Here are some worthless moons that could easily have been removed:
-buy a moon from the shop
-spit out like a hundred coins at that one spot in the deep woods
-every “talk to character while wearing specific costume” moon
-break rock to get a moon (or at least make it take waaayy less time)
-wait for stupid dog to dig up the moon (see above point for how to fix)
-hint art ( or at least let players who know where they are get the moons without having to waste time going to Dark Side and back again)
-100 hits in beach volleyball (or make it so it either doesn’t start so slow or only 50-75 hits are required)
I’d rather have 500 quality or memorable moons than 999 moons where a third of them suck.
@@dawsonarmstrong3627 The only moon from that list that's actually worthless and could've been removed is the 100 volley ball rally one. And it's not even really worthless, it's just slow and annoying to do. Buying one from the shop requires you get 100 coins and any bought afterwards is entirely up to you.
Spitting 100 coins at the vine in Deep Woods is completely fine and pretty cool. Have no clue why you put that one there. The talking to characters while wearing specific clothing ones were very cool as well and there's only 6 in the whole game. Each bonus room that follows is even themed around the costume you needed to enter with.
Get out of here with the rock one. You babies act like it takes years to open, please. It takes a couple hits and then opens. Doesn't take long in the slightest, how impatient are you? Same with the dog, it doesn't take long at all for him to find a moon and you barely ever even need him.
I feel bad for you if you've actually been going back and forth to the Dark Side to see the hint art. Bro, you're supposed to take a picture of it with the Switch. The game literally tells you this every time you view hint art. You're not supposed to go back and forth. A third of the moons don't suck, almost all of them are just fine. A few of them are dumb like the slow 100 volley ball rally, but that's a very small amount.
Hearing "+ ratio" from Arlo is just the funniest thing ever
I want FLUDD back
Now you're speaking my language!
Being able to use F.L.U.D.D. on a reimagined Isle Delfino stage would be incredible.
Sunshine 2 would be cool
FLUDD with better controls would be amazing
Fludd is dead
It’s Odyssey 2, not Sunshine 2
i know how you can make an hub world for odyssey. either make the odyssey bigger, or have the odyssey be docked in this big airship that acts like a hub world, with you being able to find moons or even maps that let you go to new places.
My hope for Super Mario Odyssey 2 is that it exists
Okay, just a weird little thing I’d want, for it to revitalize an old character the way the first one did for Pauline. Maybe a bug-themed level with Stanley the Bugman, or a level set in Subcon with Wart, or maybe we could see Sarasa-Land and have it feature Daisy and Tatanga. Heck, I’d even take a pirate level with Captain Syrup.
Dang Arlo, Odyssey’s “easier” difficulty is the reason it’s the only Mario game I’ve ever beaten. And it’s one of my favorite games ever! Difficulty options are a way to please those that want a harder challenge without ignoring the rest of us :(
Exactly ! I play games for fun. That's what games are for. A (properly done) difficulty setting system is all we need because I can't stomach when a game is too hard, either when completely lacking difficulty settings or telling you "choose normal difficulty, it's perfect for beginners" to then beat you repeatedly without any way to crank down the difficulty.
I respect you admit lacking enough skill to beat your average Mario game but ID sacrifice you if it meant a game around galaxy level hard
@@Cevaro2 I’ve tried a few of those, but none of them clicked for me the way Odyssey did. I never said there was a problem with people wanting a more challenging experience. Of course there’s nothing wrong with that! But I don’t think the solution has to be to make it more hard for everyone when difficulty options are standard in gaming nowadays. Letting players choose their own level of challenge feels like a very doable way to “make everyone happy.”
@@dandelionbritt How does one increase the difficulty of platforming as an option? Mario isn't a combat based game where you can easily adjust numbers, you fall in a mario game, you die
@@yupazestru5189galaxy is not hard lol
I think that you can't make everyone happy. That's the sort of thing Resident Evil 6 or Cyberpunk tried to do, and it ends making the whole experience lesser for trying to mash everything together. I'd be perfectly fine if tight platforming challenge Marios and 3D exploratory Marios stayed as mostly separate things, rather than trying to shave off bits of themselves in order to fuse together as some sort of "ultimate Mario experience". I feel like the best way to please both kind of fans is to let each style exist separately, and the folks who like a given style can get that particular game.
For a split second I though SMO 2 got announced and I didn’t hear about it lmao
One way to make the costumes being upgrades work is:
Do a challenge in an area where you have to do something, like swimming, and then you unlock the costumes AFTER you beat those challenges, and then that costume unlocks new challenges that can still be completed without that costume, for those who want that difficulty, but is balanced around having the costume.
Also, what about if peach and tiara could be a second player? Then maybe it could be a good 2 player game or technically a 4 player game. Just don't let it impact the level design though
Also also, you should be able to carry over your costumes from the first game. But maybe not immediately to encourage using the new costumes
Oooo i would like that
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Nintendo: working on Odyssey 2
Arlo, makes speculation video on it
Nintendo: CANCEL IT, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, IT MUST BE A SUPRISE
You want tighter design, but larger kingdoms? What I think they should do is make a BUNCH of tiny kingdoms, with a few huge ones. Lost Kingdom was easily my favorite because every square inch of it is actually utilized, unlike something like Sand Kingdom which is just a bunch of spread out points of interest separated by nothing.
just like galaxy
For Super Mario Odyssey 2, I want the game to look more Marioified. Odyssey 1 lack elements that made Mario, Mario. A 3D World look would be nice. I want more traditional enemies. Koopas, (Yes they're in the game, but as NPCs not enemy) Thomps, Spike, Boos, Monty mole, pokeys, Bob bombs, boomarng bros, Magikoopas, Shy guys, etc. These enemies would work perfectly as captures. So much more opportunities can be used.
I want the game to have of course new Kingdoms. And I have a few ideas.
Haunted Kingdom.
Pirate Kingdom (A pirate themed kingdom. Were you can go ship to ships, and explore some sand areas.)
Mountain kingdom
Sugar Kingdom (A dessert/candy themed kingdom)
Big House kingdom (I got this idea from Nathaniel Bandy, but it works so well. For the big House kingdom, the mass of the kingdom can so huge as if you're a toy. And there could be an illusion were the sky becomes the roof of the house.)
Jigsaw Kingdom (It's a Kingdom that's just a puzzle jigsaw themed. This could work very well and a lot can be done. Being able to capture puzzle pieces, and solve a jigsaw to get a moon would be neat.)
And Isle Delfino. (This can be a throwback level like how Galaxy 2 had a throwback level from 64, Odyssey 2 could do the same. Petey Piranha can return as a boss, and maybe be able to be captured. Imagine Bianco Hills as a throwback level along Delfino Plaza as a throwback hub world.)
Returning kingdoms from the first game. The Ruined Kingdom, cloud kingdom, and Snow kingdom should be expanded on more.
I want to see Bowser Jr, and Kamek in this game. For this game's plot, Bowser hires the broodals again, but has Bowser Jr to take control over them. Broodals could return. Or even maybe the Koopalings can appear. Each koopaling could be a boss for kingdom. Here me out, I know they're reused a lot in NSMB games, but that's 2D Mario. Koopalings in 3D Mario could actually be expanded and be even better than their boss fights in the 2D Games. Koopalings can replace the Broodals, but the Broodals can still return as like secret bosses. Or could be the other way around. There could be another dark side like level. In Mario Galaxy 2, in World S, there's level called boss blitz. And it brings back Galaxy 1 bosses. So Odyssey 2 could do that exact same thing and bring back bosses from Odyssey 1, and those bosses are the broodals.
I wanna see more characters make cameos in this game. Toadette, Pauline, and Toad were in Odyssey 1 as NPCs. I would love to see Daisy, Wario, Walugi, and Donkey Kong all as NPCs. Or maybe a reference to Wario and Walugi as Easter egg. New Donk City had many areas 80s arcade DK themed. I would love to see Donkey Kong himself in the game. Or at least a Easter egg. Donkey Kong Island could appear on the globe as a reference. Not playable, but there as a Easter egg.
And lastly, I wanna see Luigi playable. Maybe for this game's plot, Cappy could have a long lost brother, and teams up with Luigi. Or just another Cap kingdom citizen can team up with Luigi. Either way, I wanna see him playable. And Multiplayer co op that has Mario and Luigi.
Edited, I have one more thing
I want the game to have lives and a game over screen.
That first part is a straight up lie. Odyssey had all the elements and more that made Mario, Mario. The toy-like look works for 3D World, not Odyssey. Odyssey looks so much better.
@@chrange9714 Well there could have been more. And Odyssey does lack some elements that make Mario, Mario. Not all but some
@@catmario-_3170 I see where you're coming from, and I guess it's all a thing of personal opinion. Personally I think the more classic Mario aesthetic could be really neat in a few kingdoms, but as far as character rendering goes I personally prefer Odyssey's more realistic aesthetic over the toy like look of 3D world. It isn't bad for sure, and as I said would work wonderfully with certain worlds if implemented well (look at how contrasting some of the Odyssey kingdoms artstyles already are) but in 3D world the characters look like they're made of plastic and I think that suits it's own fun aesthetic rather than Odyssey's slightly more 'real' and exploration based format.
@@catmario-_3170 I guess there could have been more traditional enemies, but you always need to have new and interesting enemies as well. And no, Odyssey doesn't lack anything that makes Mario, Mario. I have no clue what you mean by that.
@@chrange9714 Mk
2 ARLOS for Mario Oddessy _2_
PURE. GENIUS.
My hope for Super Mario Odyssey 2 is actually Super Mario Galaxy 3
what i want in oddesy 2 is for one player to control mario and a second player to control peach. and for big enemies like the dinosaur, both players could capture them at the same time and each control part of the enemy
My hope is Mario Galaxy 3. Yes, let me have my impossible dreams 😓
Pikmin 4 vs Mario kart 9.... What is the fine balance between selling to little and selling too much which will ensure a sequel?
all i want is for them to remove motion control/gyro from their games, specially Odyssy 2 even tho on the first game was "minimal" but it aint for me. Or at least add the option to disable it for people who enjoy those things to play with them.
2:00 thank GOSH it did become reality
People dislike Mario Odyssey? They can absolutely sort their lives out. It's one of the most creative and joyous games ever made!
You can’t expect everyone in the world to like the same things. That’s not how people work
l liked odyssey well enough my first time through, but l feel really little urge to play it again. The game was just kinda all over the place (no pun intended) and while the transformations were cool in concept, almost all of them were too limited imo and were only useful for the specific obstacles right next to them. Almost any other time you'd actually prefer to be regular mario since he was the most mobile all around and quite fun to control. l also personally got kinda desensitized to moons as they were Literally everywhere and most of them are obtained by extremely trivial tasks/busywork.
Like l said l still liked it well enough my first time through, but to me it feels like a lot of wasted potential overall, which is a shame :/
Ever heard of subjectivity and opinion? I think it's you who need sort out
Galaxy >> Odyssey
i like galaxy more, the levels are amazing
Arlo: "Mario and Cappy. Peach and Tiara. You don't need me to continue. You know exactly what I'm gonna say."
Me: "Bowser and Top Hat! Giving Bowser's hat some personality to continue the trend of..."
Arlo: "I want to play as Peach and Tiara."
Me: "Oh."
Personally I would much rather have a Mario Galaxy 3. Even a Super Mario 64 or Sunshine 2. Odyssey just wasn't that fun in my opinion. I enjoyed it when every star/shine in the original games took effort to obtain, with odyssey I just couldn't help but get bored, it wasn't a bad game at all or even my least favourite 3D Mario game but it is definitely not above Galaxy, 64 or Sunshine imo. I just hated the moon system completely and I loved the original styles of 3D Mario.
Odyssey should have looked a bit more Marioified
odyssey’s main story is pretty good, but the postgame is.. i wanted to 100% the game... and couldn’t because there is no dopamine loop, and i got so bored..
imagine, more galaxy, red star, new power up, new yoshi fruit, a huge spacestation
Yoshion. I agree on prefer the Galaxy games over Odyssey. But 64 & Sunshine above Odyssey? Eh. Sorry, but no. 64 & Sunshine have not age well gameplay wise.
Even more so than Cascade and Hat Kingdom, the Ruined Kingdom had so much potential. I'm not the kinda guy who wants or thinks placing Mario in gritty settings is a good idea in general, but a one level devoted to that atmosphere in a game intended to put Mario in weird environments would have been very cool and fitting. The fact there was only a boss there makes me think Nintendo really did have a castle level on the drawing board that wound up on the chopping block instead.