I am guessing that builders hate it when you turn up for the final inspection. If I am spending alot of money to have a brand new house, I would want it to meet the standard requirements. You are keeping these builders accountable, keep up the good work.
I’m tradie. One of my mantras is that “going for the highest bid does not guarantee the highest quality, but going with the lowest bid DOES guarantee a low quality”
Some advice from a carpentry business owner. DO NOT hire foreigners from the middle east or Asia which includes India for anything other than plastering or painting. Get in dependent Inspections ,ideally this guy, at each stage (framing,lock up and fix) and only pay after its being passed properly.
Human dignity in his work, and the source of his strength And how much the greats incurred until they reached the peaks, so I pray to God to expand your sustenance for you and write for you success and ease in your work. He is capable of everything, O Lord.
Well that’s only partially true. The economy and fixed price contracts are not friendly to business, neither is the amount of trades undercutting. You want good quality, you pay more.
The water at the end was shocking. I can only imagine how bad the roof installation was done. I had a roof specialist tell me the sarking will assist with the water leaks. I’m not confident with such a comment as I believe no roof should ever leak! Fantastic video yet again. An update on how the roof is leaking would be great. 👍
Your roof specialist is a bullshit artist. The job of sarking is not to assist with leaks, it's to help fireproof the roof. A well laid roof shouldn't leak, full stop. Ex roofer here.
Just to provide us with some perspective: what would you say is the ratio of these dodgy builds i.e. we only see the videos of poor workmanship (which is great by the way). Would it be one in two, three etc…houses built with these defects or less common than this? Cheers
Hey mate, I enjoy your videos but would like to question you on an item, you state that a sloping apron has to go "fully into the tray" yet the regs you quote in HB 39 state " into full tray" now i read that as it must got into a full tray ie one that has not been ripped down and then folded up. If you look at page 102 drawing (a) it shows a sloped apron flashing going "into a full tray" not going fully into the tray. I get this comes down to how one interprets the regulations but you use the word FULLY into and the regs state INTO a full tray. Thoughts?
So interesting this channel. Kept me engaged and I am not a builder or tradesperson in the building industry. I would love to see someone like this do inspection videos for rental properties to highlight how bad or rather how non-compliant they are.
@@michaelmcclown5593 we have the standards documented, the issue is enforcement and punishment for non compliance. Clearly there must just be insane levels of corruption for these houses to be getting signed off on
The moral I am getting from all these is if any architect, builder or realestate agent suggests a home with box gutters, fire them. Why even introduce this nosense into your design.
Usually there is no other option. Flat or semi flat roofed housing need proper flashing installed in the correct manner because water will always find the gaps.
Yeah, I didn't understand what he meant by fully in the tray either. My own roof was leaking as they had the apron flashing installed into a tray that had the ridge cut off underneath. I just overlapped a strip of roof sheet that had an intact ridge under the flashing and that hasn't leaked since.
Since when does a builder build a hip end roof and slap a parapet and box gutter on three sides of it and think, fuck that looks good let’s build em all like this 🥴 This house is shocking wow
Modern house design is rubbish. Like ours, it looks like this one has a smaller first storey than the ground floor resulting in a small roof.around the edge. Why? This is fraught with problems, eg, any water that gets into the upper roof will find its way into the first floor wall cavity, then down through the cavity into the ground floor ceiling and then you get an unwanted shower in your home. It's also just a waste of real estate. There's literally no advantage to this design, only disadvantages.
Absolutely terrible,it’s unbelievable that tradies are this slack with their work. It’s like they take no pride in their work anymore. I will be building my own home if I ever decide to do it,and only get what tradies is legally required to do what I legally can’t. That hebel is rubbish material,I’d never use it as a building material.
Was at an auction for a Hebel house in caulfield and it soldfor 1.9 million built in under 5 months to a rich young Asian family let's see how long it lasts
@George-xb5ey exactly, ive worked with Hebel before and I wouldn't call it a very sound building material at all,a sledge hammer and a strong guy could gain access to inside a house in minutes. It crumbles like a giant biscuit.
I must admit the roof design is also faulty as a corrugated hip roof emptying into a box gutter is fraught with problems as you did not show how far up underneath the roof sheet the box gutter goes. The draught person/architect council needs to be analysed for passing the palns with that sort of roof design.
Your interpretation of the concealed fastened roof sheet sloping apron seems to be wanting for further clarification as your video at 9.47 showed the apron flashing in fact complying with that regulation.
@@Siteinspections Darryl is correct. I appreciate some of the language used in standards isn't particularly clear, however as the very standard you display on the screen at 9.45 states, under the heading "COVER" it has the words "INTO FULL TRAY". This means the flashing must not be run into a cut, or otherwise partial tray (cut then turned up on site), not that it must extend over the entirety of the pan. A diagrammatic example may be seen in SA HB 39:2015 (although referencing concealed fastening systems, the flashing "as drawn" is not an error) FIGURE 7.12.1 FIXING CLIPS. Further, SA HB 39:2015 CLAUSE 8.3 SPECIAL FOLDS demands any flashing or capping exceeding 150mm in width be provided with additional supports not exceeding 500mm spacing. As most metal deck profiles include pans exceeding 150mm, this clause would come into effect on ~every single installation.... Placing such supports within a tray of a deck tray roof is not ideal as it requires (otherwise unnecessary) piercing and sealing of that roof component which should be avoided where possible. Flashings should also be installed to permit full drainage of the roof covering, and not cause the collection of detritus that may impact serviceability or lifespan. For these reasons, running an apron flashing hard up to a rib is inadvisable. Other than that, I love your work!
The bad part is the tradies will have to rectify without more $ but if they were shit for pay how good will the job be when they're doing it for free? Have bought one new build and seeing the state of it confirmed I could build the next one better
LOL that's why I live in a caravan on the street, because if you have 500,000 immigrants coming into the country and most skilled tradesmen retiring and the worker shortage , you are going to get short cuts or rushed jobs or just she'll be right I am going back to the homeland soon. I will wait until I save up for a new caravan, then I am out of Victoria !
It’s a huge shame as the industry is heavily regulated and licensed. You need a license to be a roof plumber but from this video any Buffon could do a better job
I have a question for you. How do the home owners get insurance for a house that is incomplete and is not suitable for people to live in. And is passed by a blind house inspection.
You can easily get insurance as the insurance companies don't check your house but if there is a claim then their inspectors will be saying it needs to be fixed by the builder as is due to poor workmanship.
I’ve got a shocking build in Melbourne. If you’re interested in a name and shame. The builder focuses on ethnic groups and continues to rip them off. Pretty bad when mortgages last for 30 years and the houses are lucky to last 15 years
You mean the builder aims to sell to new immigrants for example? That's a huge reason big business want endless immigration so they can keep selling crap homes and have people working for slave wages. Disgraceful state the country is in.
Theres a common problem with these homes, its their stupid architecture, why does an architect want to stuf around with box gutters and complicated roof lines? One roofline and gables, no problems
I am guessing that builders hate it when you turn up for the final inspection. If I am spending alot of money to have a brand new house, I would want it to meet the standard requirements. You are keeping these builders accountable, keep up the good work.
WOW...that builder is disgraceful! You need to have your own TV show...just like BOTCHED!
One glance at the facade and house style and I know it's Thomas Archer homes lol. They use Collins Roofing as their roof plumbers. Absolute joke!!
Thanks. As someone who's not a tradie and looking at building their first home. Definitely getting a lot of insight
I’m tradie. One of my mantras is that “going for the highest bid does not guarantee the highest quality, but going with the lowest bid DOES guarantee a low quality”
Some advice from a carpentry business owner. DO NOT hire foreigners from the middle east or Asia which includes India for anything other than plastering or painting. Get in dependent Inspections ,ideally this guy, at each stage (framing,lock up and fix) and only pay after its being passed properly.
@@MrDeano-eu9rg ive seen you alcoholic bogans do just as shoddy job as the non english speaking turks i work with. Sometimes worse.
Human dignity in his work, and the source of his strength
And how much the greats incurred until they reached the peaks, so I pray to God to expand your sustenance for you and write for you success and ease in your work. He is capable of everything, O Lord.
Imagine how many builders wouldn't go out of business if they just did it right the first time.
Wouldnt the trades go out of business because it’s on them to fix their shitty work? Builders go out of business from poor accounts management.
Yeah it’s average tradies more than anything. But shit pay and pushing people to get things done quick has created poor workmanship over the years
Well that’s only partially true. The economy and fixed price contracts are not friendly to business, neither is the amount of trades undercutting. You want good quality, you pay more.
@@Samsgarden this has nothing to do with contracts. It's about workmanship and it's 3rd world garbage.
@@taktischekartoffel Whatever you say
100% confident this is Thomas Archer homes. The roofers are Collins plumbers and roofing. Can tell by the house design.
As soon as I saw the bump I knew it was water…and it’ll be the whole roof. What a mess
Yes, in 2023 we cannot deal with water condensation in our super high tech houses.
The water at the end was shocking. I can only imagine how bad the roof installation was done. I had a roof specialist tell me the sarking will assist with the water leaks. I’m not confident with such a comment as I believe no roof should ever leak!
Fantastic video yet again. An update on how the roof is leaking would be great. 👍
Your roof specialist is a bullshit artist. The job of sarking is not to assist with leaks, it's to help fireproof the roof. A well laid roof shouldn't leak, full stop. Ex roofer here.
I would think the sarking should deal with condensation from the underside of metal roofing, but there should be no leaks to deal with.
What the he'll is a "roof specialist"? A roof plumber or a roof tiler?
Just to provide us with some perspective: what would you say is the ratio of these dodgy builds i.e. we only see the videos of poor workmanship (which is great by the way). Would it be one in two, three etc…houses built with these defects or less common than this? Cheers
Good follow-up inspection...
Keep them coming.
Excellent to watch mate.
It's the explanation of things that I appreciate more than just the crappy work 👍
shocking . That sarking takes the prize 🎉🎉🎉 roof is dismal
Hey mate, I enjoy your videos but would like to question you on an item, you state that a sloping apron has to go "fully into the tray" yet the regs you quote in HB 39 state " into full tray" now i read that as it must got into a full tray ie one that has not been ripped down and then folded up. If you look at page 102 drawing (a) it shows a sloped apron flashing going "into a full tray" not going fully into the tray. I get this comes down to how one interprets the regulations but you use the word FULLY into and the regs state INTO a full tray. Thoughts?
So interesting this channel. Kept me engaged and I am not a builder or tradesperson in the building industry. I would love to see someone like this do inspection videos for rental properties to highlight how bad or rather how non-compliant they are.
Great work!!!!!
Can’t wait to see how things go when we mass import more trades people and don’t train them to au standards
au standards, yeah this is an example of that.
Well Aust kids are too soft to do apprenticeships in trades now. Most of the ones that do don’t really give a shit
@@michaelmcclown5593 we have the standards documented, the issue is enforcement and punishment for non compliance.
Clearly there must just be insane levels of corruption for these houses to be getting signed off on
Thomas Archer homes is the builder for sure. I can tell by the designs.
This is a prime example of foreign tradies!
I’d love to hear the call to the builder when you tell him
The moral I am getting from all these is if any architect, builder or realestate agent suggests a home with box gutters, fire them.
Why even introduce this nosense into your design.
Usually there is no other option. Flat or semi flat roofed housing need proper flashing installed in the correct manner because water will always find the gaps.
Didnt you know the roofing sarking is a waterproofing membrane ha!
Nah its not. Its a water storage compartment. It just hasnt been plumbed in yet!!
for the garden & water fountain@@fifthdimension1984
Apron flashing said into full tray not fully into tray. It just needs to go into a tray that hasn’t been cut so over one ridge.
Yeah, I didn't understand what he meant by fully in the tray either.
My own roof was leaking as they had the apron flashing installed into a tray that had the ridge cut off underneath.
I just overlapped a strip of roof sheet that had an intact ridge under the flashing and that hasn't leaked since.
They were checking to see if the sarking would hold water. Most builders don't have to rely on the sarking.
Man, you know your stuff. If i ever build, i'm getting you in for sure !
Good job
Hold you camera horizontally mate.
Since when does a builder build a hip end roof and slap a parapet and box gutter on three sides of it and think, fuck that looks good let’s build em all like this 🥴
This house is shocking wow
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I agree! No decent builder would want to even build that rubbish!
Modern house design is rubbish. Like ours, it looks like this one has a smaller first storey than the ground floor resulting in a small roof.around the edge. Why? This is fraught with problems, eg, any water that gets into the upper roof will find its way into the first floor wall cavity, then down through the cavity into the ground floor ceiling and then you get an unwanted shower in your home.
It's also just a waste of real estate. There's literally no advantage to this design, only disadvantages.
@@nicholasvinenit's done for shading issues. To let more sunlight down beside the houses because they're so tightly packed together these days.
Absolutely terrible,it’s unbelievable that tradies are this slack with their work. It’s like they take no pride in their work anymore. I will be building my own home if I ever decide to do it,and only get what tradies is legally required to do what I legally can’t. That hebel is rubbish material,I’d never use it as a building material.
Was at an auction for a Hebel house in caulfield and it soldfor 1.9 million built in under 5 months to a rich young Asian family let's see how long it lasts
@George-xb5ey exactly, ive worked with Hebel before and I wouldn't call it a very sound building material at all,a sledge hammer and a strong guy could gain access to inside a house in minutes. It crumbles like a giant biscuit.
First time watching,learned alot ,awesome job
Box gutter fails top of the list! 😊 What’s your Top Ten non compliant finds? Ask all your subscribers!,😮😮😮
She’ll be right mate.
Those birds are non compliant
I must admit the roof design is also faulty as a corrugated hip roof emptying into a box gutter is fraught with problems as you did not show how far up underneath the roof sheet the box gutter goes. The draught person/architect council needs to be analysed for passing the palns with that sort of roof design.
Absolutely! Some of these designs are ridiculous. You could build it perfectly and they’re bound to eventually fail.
How did the hebel installation go in relation to control joints. I did see a previous inspection on another build and you were very informative.
Your interpretation of the concealed fastened roof sheet sloping apron seems to be wanting for further clarification as your video at 9.47 showed the apron flashing in fact complying with that regulation.
Watch the latest video for a sloping apron example ☺️
@@Siteinspections Darryl is correct.
I appreciate some of the language used in standards isn't particularly clear, however as the very standard you display on the screen at 9.45 states, under the heading
"COVER"
it has the words
"INTO FULL TRAY".
This means the flashing must not be run into a cut, or otherwise partial tray (cut then turned up on site), not that it must extend over the entirety of the pan.
A diagrammatic example may be seen in SA HB 39:2015 (although referencing concealed fastening systems, the flashing "as drawn" is not an error) FIGURE 7.12.1 FIXING CLIPS.
Further, SA HB 39:2015 CLAUSE 8.3 SPECIAL FOLDS demands any flashing or capping exceeding 150mm in width be provided with additional supports not exceeding 500mm spacing. As most metal deck profiles include pans exceeding 150mm, this clause would come into effect on ~every single installation.... Placing such supports within a tray of a deck tray roof is not ideal as it requires (otherwise unnecessary) piercing and sealing of that roof component which should be avoided where possible.
Flashings should also be installed to permit full drainage of the roof covering, and not cause the collection of detritus that may impact serviceability or lifespan.
For these reasons, running an apron flashing hard up to a rib is inadvisable.
Other than that, I love your work!
Do home owners pay you fir pre inspection before paying /hand over ?
Yep, they have to absorb that cost themselves. Ludicrous.
And these roofers are raking in the money
Steel has gone up but there can do a house in a day or two
And 18k later
Owner should sue the certifier to recover frame payment.
Imagine being paid for not doing your job
Exactly.
Can't stand ppl opening their hands for $ when the jobs not right ..
The bad part is the tradies will have to rectify without more $ but if they were shit for pay how good will the job be when they're doing it for free?
Have bought one new build and seeing the state of it confirmed I could build the next one better
Non-compliant! luv it. good stuff.
Silicone is not u.v rated right.
Regardless, it doesn't last. It will eventually crack and fail.
@@nicholasvinen Yes, it should not be relied on longer term - all these house in a few years will uninhabitable due to leaks and mould.
Indoor swimming pool...fancy
you should start naming the builders/companies
100% confident this is Thomas Archer homes. The roofers are Collins Roofing and plumbing.
Cowboy Roofer 😂😂
Yep. So many out there unfortunately.
Great inspection is that not a full tray in the sloping flashing lower roof
If anyone is using temporary plastic down pipe. Use a piece of 90mm PVC pipe to join the gutter drop to the plastic. You only need a piece 100mm long
Fark, need u to come to my mums house....tradies should be ashamed of themselves producing this type of work...
I know it’s not you’re job but seriously these people should be named and shamed
100% confident this is Thomas Archer homes. The roofers are Collins plumbers and roofing.
Put a hose bib in the roof and use it instead of an external water tank :P
Good from afar, far from good
You should name the builder
LOL that's why I live in a caravan on the street, because if you have 500,000 immigrants coming into the country and most skilled tradesmen retiring and the worker shortage , you are going to get short cuts or rushed jobs or just she'll be right I am going back to the homeland soon. I will wait until I save up for a new caravan, then I am out of Victoria !
Just buy an older house in the country - yes, and preferably in another state!
It’s a huge shame as the industry is heavily regulated and licensed. You need a license to be a roof plumber but from this video any Buffon could do a better job
More likely it was an apprentice, given they're allowed to work under their employers license unsupervised.
I have a question for you.
How do the home owners get insurance for a house that is incomplete and is not suitable for people to live in.
And is passed by a blind house inspection.
You can easily get insurance as the insurance companies don't check your house but if there is a claim then their inspectors will be saying it needs to be fixed by the builder as is due to poor workmanship.
I’ve got a shocking build in Melbourne. If you’re interested in a name and shame. The builder focuses on ethnic groups and continues to rip them off. Pretty bad when mortgages last for 30 years and the houses are lucky to last 15 years
You mean the builder aims to sell to new immigrants for example? That's a huge reason big business want endless immigration so they can keep selling crap homes and have people working for slave wages. Disgraceful state the country is in.
holy cow the roof is leaking!? never use that roofer
15:00 I was hoping that was a tradie sleeping on the job 😝
Wow
Are there any reliable builders in Australia??
i bet i am going to see gutters and flashing out of compliance/why do they design houses so poorly where you are /it doesn't have to be so complicated
I'll Be Back!......😮
Theres a common problem with these homes, its their stupid architecture, why does an architect want to stuf around with box gutters and complicated roof lines? One roofline and gables, no problems
The builder isn't smart, how more you are visiting how more you see .
I like how he needs to have handcuffs
👍👍👍
Do your best and silicone the rest. She'll be alright mate....
💯👌🏽
piercing a hole in installed sarking NON COMPLIENT
0 pride, find something else if you don't like doing it.
thanks for explaining correctly.
Love your work