This had to be the rosiest DR Horton video I've ever seen. He's either getting paid or they know he has a RUclips channel and are going above and beyond what they'd normally do hoping he makes more videos like this.
Gutters are required by Code where I live! Many of these would violate building codes where I live. I hope they fix all of this for you. They have a horrible reputation in our area and the houses sit and don’t sale.
You can have a general inspector but you can't have a specialized inspector? I guess they don't want you to find out the truth . if they aren't interested in finding defects and fixing them before closing, good luck getting it fixed afterwards. Even If their guy really did check the roof nailing, they aren't going to say there is a problem because they don't want to rip the old roof off. Doors that hit each other? Bathroom door that hits the glass shower door? How does that happen in a Floorplan from a big builder that they use over and over and over again? So the design of the home is as problematic as the craftsmanship.
Not defending the builder, but you can find some pretty horrendous "foreman" in these cookie cutter operations. So... well, it's only mostly the builder 👷♂️
I don't think that is "a potential major issue"-that is a HUGE issue. NEVER accept "corporate policy"-just walk. NEVER accept the "company" specialist/inspector. I wouldn't buy because they got measurement of everything WAY off with all of the doors banging into each other.
This is just like RVs. They will NOT fix it after you buy it. Plus, if they did that type of work when they wanted to sell you the house, do you want them to "fix" it?
It is obvious that DR Horton uses sub par sub contractors that lack experience, pride, knowledge, or quality in their workmanship...then the question is would you want the original sub contractors to be the ones to return to make the corrections? The contractors that allowed this type of incomplete, incorrect, and overall poor workmanship and/or design...and believe that they could be trusted and would make the right and proper corrections...that at this point in time could potentially be very costly to them...or should you buy a home from a builder that uses unqualified lowest bid sub contractors...then lacks the supervisory workforce to properly supervise those subs for quality during each phase and throughout the entire construction process...all because that could or would impact the bottom line...it is a very sad situation in so many ways...and I also believe it is also a problem that varies depending on the location...I know that some of what I've seen online from DR Horton and other national builders would most definitely not fly in my area and state...then again it is reflected in the sale price...
@@highlightsateleven5434 what are u talking about it's reflected in the price? If u think u need to pay 900k for toll bros to get quality n 400k u expect crap quality... U r stupid
It's the american culture of low expectations and mediocrity, this would not be acceptable 50 years ago...this is why the food we eat is full of garbage chemicals, why everything we buy breaks...rich people never have to worry about any of this. It's a cardboard life, everything is rotten on the inside, but the outside looks good so it must be good right?!?
Build quality on new homes over the last 10 years has dropped off a cliff with the materials being cheap and the labor putting the house together even cheaper
When your 30-40,00 craftsman short in the country, this is the kind of work you get. Time is money . Do you really think if a guy nails down on a roof knows he missed the rafter? A do you think he went back? Spend an afternoon and watch them work. I worked on a job one time the framers came back to install the hurricane clips they forgot when framing. How many of those never made it and how many got all the nails in them because they couldn't reach them? Good job taking the gutters since That's the biggest cause for water damage , bad or no gutters. No gutters on a new house? PLEASE .
@@bobainsworth5057 And check the flashings. I have seen vents, windows, and pipes that got their flashing lapped the opposite way like a mini gutter/rain catcher. Someone has to drop a hammer to teach them rainwater flows downward.
Since when does a homeowner have to abide by the builder's corporate policy to dictate whom he or she can have come over and inspect their home. Be it a general contractor or a specialist?
because you don't own the home yet...and up until the signing and closing it is their property and home...it's such a ridiculous and absurd thing to dictate to the buyer that it should make you think real hard as to what the reason for that might be...
I found 45 items that had to be fixed before the installation and drywall was installed on my house. Trust me, you don’t want to know what’s behind the walls that are now covered up.
I owed a DRhorton house for about 3 years(brand new when I bought it) and I've had more issues in that house than any other house that I've ever owned. My mom recently bought one brand new last year directly across the highway from my old DR house(different neighboorhood) and it's plagued with problems too. Stay away from these builders at all costs.
Sorry to hear that, I'm about to purchase a new build in the coming months, but I'm afraid of all these problems I keep hearing about, don't know what to do.
@@JC-ms1pg get your own independent home inspection done. They are going to try to persuade you not to get one, but I’m telling you you’re better off getting one. And make them fix everything they find before you close. They will try to fight you on some of that too but they’ll eventually cave and fix it. They have been pretty good and coming back to my moms and fix the issues that arose after closing but you have to stay on top of them. We are in south Louisiana so the quality may vary by region.
Thanks for the quick reply, I intend to get an inspection, it's just a shame that homeowners have to go through this kind of thing, shelling out their hard earned money only to be faced with massive repairs on a new build, it infuriates me! @@sixsixST2
DR Horton's plumbing contractor installed all the plumbing incorrectly. We fought for years for them to fix it. We had to pay out of pocket so we could have hot and cold water correctly.
@@JimBurdan79I saw a guy to fought with them to have his home fixed. They ignored him. Up until he posted their dirty deeds on social media such as tik tok and it went viral. Soon enough Horton company responded and fixed his house
A potential home buyer is forbidden to hire a framing inspector? Corporate policy? When does a homeowner become subject to a corporate mandate? That right there, denying a potential buyer their own inspection, that is a red flag. But I understand now. Building safe and well crafted homes is apparently a violation of corporate policy.
this is the reason we didnt buy a DR Horton home here in Ft Worth...we went with a small local builder....much better built, now 9 years and no problem at all...
My Grandfather and a neighbor built my house in 1930, using lumber from a building they tore down. It was where my Daddy was raised, later rented out, and left empty for a couple of years. Wife and I moved in in 1991. This house has survived many hurricanes, winters, and other storms. It will most likely be here long after me. It is not over insulated/sealed for energy savings. With Gulf Coast humidity, a house has to breath to prevent mold and rot. Many modern energy saving insulations make a house to air tight for this climate. Old folks knew what they were doing.
The wood we use today is inherently inferior to the wood used in the past. 80% of the old growth forests in the US are gone. Wood from older trees (couple of hundred years old) is superior to wood from younger trees.
Them telling you that you cannot hire a framing inspector, because it is against their corporate policy... I would have told them that if they wish me to close on the home, that I will do any inspection I wish! Corporate policy isn't what I'm allowed to do by law. If I have an inspection clause in the contract, I can hire any inspectors I wish. If they don't like that, I'll see them in court. I had a builder show me plans when I bought a home, and they showed an outdoor patio area. Later they changed their mind, likely decided they could save some money, and changed their landscaping plans so I had no outdoor patio area. This home had been built on spec by the developer, so I had only a small earnest money deposit, which the contract stated I would get back if we failed to close. A week before close they told me they wouldn't be doing the patio. I said I understood, and wanted to know how much off I was going to get. They laughed and told me they could change their plans at any time. I laughed and told them I could walk away as well. I got the patio and landscaping I had understood was going to go in originally.
These large home builders (D.R. Horton, Lennar) pop up houses real quick & subcontract labor. These homes are flimsy at best, but shoddy work can make them more costly down the road for buyers who, past warranty period, discover issues expensive to fix out of pocket. They just don’t make quality houses anymore.
I built a house in 1995 and the build quality even then was at best mediocre If they misses all these cosmetic issues and doors hit other doors, I would be terrified of what is lurking behind the walls
Excellent. We decided to buy DR house today. Still and empty lot and this convinces me to get inspector prior to closing. DR is the GC but it’s the subs that build it and get it right or wrong.
Don't sign anything if it says you have to close by a certain date and if you don't close you will have to pay per day. They won't fix anything you point out at the walk though but you will still HAVE to close.
It may be too late, but get an inspection before insulation and drywall go up, that finds structure issues before they are covered up. This is the cheapest time for both you and the builder to fix these issues.
Don’t do it, run. Read your contract carefully and I guarantee you it will state that you cannot sue them for anything. You can only use arbitration. That is a huge red flag.
It's not just DR Horton, it's most builders. I think so much falls on the specific community you are looking at, the subcontractors they are using, the construction manager and the project manager. If the construction manager is cutting corners and using cheap materials and using the cheapest sub contractors to get it up as quick as possible and the project manager is just worried about time, you will have issues. I bought a DR Horton townhome back in 2009 and had no problems but some of my neighbors said they had problems. I think that had to do with different phases and using different subcontractors. The thing is, as a buyer, you have no transparency into what is going on behind the scenes. Your best recourse is to hire your own home inspector but they won't catch everything either and if it's already sheetrocked, the inspector won't see anything that is messed up behind the walls but always hire your own independent home inspector.
DR Horton built my new home in South Carolina. You said the truth about DR Horton using inexpensive contractors, cheap materials, and superintendents that were not qualified. It took 1 1/2 years of fighting to get 73 issues resolved. New home owners must document every construction issue and bring these issues to the builder immediately. In conclusion, it's the workers that are skilled or not and the superintendent for DR Horton that determines the quality of your home. Good Luck
@@jdos5643let them frown, it's your right. You can get inspection, ( private), a each phase. If they won't let you , dont buy house. I was looking at a house that had the door and stairs to basement in a narrow hall. I asked them to move it 4' to the garage so i would be able to get sheet rock down there, and they refused. I walked out. I'm spending hundreds of thousands of dollars and they cant ove a door? They didn't even offer to do it for a price.
Honestly man, the problem isn't what you can see but what's hidden behind walls or from view. Getting a private inspector to oversee the different development stages of the home being built is crucial because these homemaking companies don't care about anything but building fast and selling quick. Remember that homes are built by a general contractor, not a house building company. Just spending the extra money to oversee a house being built right can save you a lot more money down the road when more serious problems start occurring.
Imagine buying any other product, esp at the price point of a house, and having to hire your own person to QA it because you can't trust the company to build it right themselves.
3:19 water penetrating the siding will flow to that ledge. Sealing with Caulk may channel water toward the house. Careful about caulking around windows as well, water needs a place to escape.
@@MoneyHungryPicker I've seen a lot of homes like this that is not caulked. I think the most important thing is to make sure you have a slope on the bricks so water can flow away instead of towards the wall.
These aren't one-off mistakes. These are indicative of systemic failures in craftmanship and quality. I would be worried about what else starts popping up after living in it for a while. It would be a hard pass from me.
I'm also a Horton customer! In fact, in the matter of house construction, there are always a few aspects related to: Materials - cheap, low-cost materials will quickly fail later! (cheap home) Managers, subcontractors, and workers in order of preference. Comes from the worker - there will be one person or another, some people with weak skills, some with good skills - a problem with weak skills (weak skills and cheap labor costs) But on the worker is the manager - is the subcontractor - if the subcontractor gets cheap and the subcontractor team is not good, it can't do better. Higher than the subcontractor is Horton's general management team - if the management team is good (the salary is also high) and responsible, they will never neglect and ignore the mistakes - petty mistakes that ruin project value!!!!
@@highlightsateleven5434 They may be good at management, they may be good at making a profit - but the management of construction quality really needs someone who is good at the profession and always closely monitors the quality of the construction (the best quality with the money spent), requiring standard operations for each job - they really lack managers like that!
So ugly that they chop down EVERY TREE to build those cheap cookie cutter houses. Pure laziness to cut all the trees down just so builders don’t have to work around them.
Hey great informative video! It's been 4 months since you posted this video, how are things going? I will say all those nails that missed the wood were disturbing! I've heard so many horror stories about these builders, I'm in the process of selling my home and buying a new build, but I have concerns about quality issues. Hope your new home is working out.
Mine in 1998, slab cement was crooked in kitchen, no insulation in attic,water softener drain pipe not down drain stack, flooded laundry room on first regen. Drywall texture bad, painted over all,the dust on base boards. Boot print in concrete by front door. Pocket door installed crooked,wrong kitchen cabinets.lots of concrete cracks exposed when new flooring installed. Neighbor behind water floods into my yard under crappy block,wall. Wind blew over their wall.
Run buddy, run! Once they have the dough you have little leverage. "Cosmetic things" are critical to the next buyer. Hold their feet to the fire. Do they do a moisture test before applying the wall linings?
We are about to build a custom home on our own property. The Construction loan bank will come out and inspect every time the builder is ready to pay the sub-contractor. Like the foundation work, roofing, carpenters… Only after the bank’s inspector and the home owner are satisfied do they release the funds to contractors. This way we should be able to catch most issues. We just closed on the loan this week. In the closing cost is money for an inspector to come out 5 times during construction and the final inspection. BTW we got a 6.5% construction loan 😮. Not happy about that, but that’s the going rate from any bank in our area.
With all of those "minor" issues I would be concerned with the overall quality. A builder/craftsman that would overlook some of those issues would also "overlook" or just simply ignore other issues. And it seems obvious they rushed through this build. And they wouldn't allow you to bring a specialist in to give you an opinion? BS!! Corporate policy? Yeah right. That would also be a clue that they do crappy work.
So glad you put this out before buying. Look at home inspector channels. You dodged the bullet. According to them these developers are horrible. All they care about is you getting the loan. And currently, there are no lemon laws on banks giving loans on these lemons.
I'm looking at a DR Horton home, and noticed the siding has dents/dibs where they meet do you know if that's something that's done? Similar to that flashing where it's puzzled together but no caulking in between. Thanks for the video, that lot is for sure great!
Do you not walk, run from Horton. Look at your contract that states you cannot sue them. You have to go and arbitrate. That’s a huge red flag. Do you more research do not buy anything from them. They will promise the world until you close and then you’re screwed because they will not honor any part of their warranty and you will not be able to sue them.
Your concern with the nailing of the OSB board, it is possible at the time of nailing the OSB to the truss the worker did notice the nails were missing and re-nailed it again into the truss. The other problem is the nails that are missed and not nailed into the truss will work themselves back up and raise the roofing shingle and could damage the roof felt and shingle and cause a leak.
Wait - You had to pay extra for gutters? Is that a regional thing, or part of DR Horton's requirements? Just wondering... Also, I'd really be concerned about those nails not going into the trusses properly. That looks like a major structural defect to me. As you said, you're going to hire your own framing engineer to inspect it, but I'd press them on getting that person in before you close. I've read that they don't really honor their warranties. Best of luck, and hopefully, they can get the issues fixed!
I have not bought a DR Horton new home but,…… I have bought two new homes in past twenty years!! The most recent in 2020. I will tell you it is all about the builder and how well they stand behind their home. We bought from a small but well known and great reviewed builder. Well, let me tell you,it was a nightmare the first two years!! We had water issues galore ,French drains had to be installed. Probably 40 different cosmetic flaws that he did fix mostly after we moved in. We were not as smart as you???!! Being we were buying a new home we thought no inspection would be needed?? Wrong!! Even-though,eventually it has all worked out we live in a new subdivision and the last ones built are going through some of the problems we did. So morale of this story new or previously owned get you a great home inspector just Ike you did. Staying 6 hours is absolutely great!! I would venture to say not many if any newly built homes!these days,would pass such a thorough inspection as was done on your home!!! God bless you for sharing and wishing you much happiness in this beautiful new home,if indeed you purchase it. I love the yard!! Alabama is a beautiful state!! Roll Tide!!!! 👍
Yes, always get a home inspection before going to closing. I would never trust a builder and their "3rd party inspector". They are paying that inspector to get the house through inspection so that aren't looking for things at all, just trying to get the inspection approved.
Young man you said can still get out of this deal per inspection? You had SOO many issues I think I'd run like Warnar Bros Roadrunner. Beep Beep, puff of dust!!!!
One issue is that the mulch in the front of the house is too high. There should be 6' of exposed concrete below the brick so you can identify any termite tunnels built. The side and back were fine in that regard, but something to monitor.
The dryer vent box is supposed to be down to floor level per the manufacturer instructions. Having the dryer vent box higher will cause your flex hose to have an extra bend which will restrict the exhaust air flow and other issues.
i have never seen anyone run lap siding and not trim the windows and doors. I installed cabinets in Alabama horton houses for 10 years. i know right where this subdivision is. Look at the houses around you, does their siding look like yours. We probably installed those phase one and phase two houses. Horton and others rush their sub contractors. We did installs until dark, then we broke out our lights and installed some more. I always pardoned other subs work, because i felt that they were probably under the same pressure that we were
I'm a DR Horton homeowner. You made a huge mistake. It's not what you can see it's what you can't see. I would not have bought the home with the two doors alone. Also, did the inspector check the singles? Are they 3 ply? Every owner had their roofs replaced within the first year. DR Horton would not cover it.
I would not have purchased this house. I can miss the boards cause I don't do it for living, but these people do--I had "professional" plumber not long ago come into my home that I think was plucked off the street. He broke everything he touched and had no plumbing equipment. Getting things done properly today are tougher than when I was young, for whatever reason, but houses are going up so fast everywhere that you can count on finding lots of mistakes. I think I'm going to add Horton Homes to Ryan Homes as two builders to stay away from. I am looking for a second small home to get out of South Nashville, ruined now by the nonstop racket of the Nashville International Airport. Good video on your part.
I’m one year in. There isn’t a square foot of the walls that don’t have some sort of small debris. I tried to bring this up, vigorously, and the site manager said he can’t babysit the painters. I was so disheartened, still am every time I look at a wall. With the market the way it was, and my situation, I caved. There are other cosmetic issues too. Your video gave me some things on the outside to look for. How has your experience been since?
Definitely not a DR Horton sales man. If my house falls apart I promise you I will be on here showing videos of every bit of the issues. 1 year update coming in April.
They need to fix all those things that is a brand new house. Why are you making excuses for those people. You buy this house and your asking for problems. You worked hard for your money man. Let us know how things turned out.
In the southern states, it would seem to me that building codes are lax. Here in the far west, concrete slabs are always post tension slabs which will prevent most cracks. Not minor cracks but cracking. Alabama being a rainy humid state, I find it appalling that the eves are not larger to help keep water away from the building. It just looks to be poorly built using junky materials at least on the exterior. Around here and in my native Florida, cement tile roofs is standard even on starter homes. Same goes with stucco exterior walls. You won't see that Hardy board around here. D.R. Horton built a bit around here in Las Vegas. Thankfully, our building codes compared to there are much more strict and the main reason why our average home price is $450K.
Those are smart light switches you do not want to caulk around them you need to be able to take off the cover. The gaps in the shower do not caulk those either those are like weep holes in case you were to get water behind your tile it won’t cause mold.
The crew that build the first few houses are the most qualified crew afforded to the project. They would come to build the model and a couple of each elevation/trim from the catalog. Then, the cheaper crew would come and get the rest done like cloning boxes. There are no need to measure anything anymore since everything, on paper, is supposed to be pre measured and counted. That's why if a mistake occurs, the solution is to add cosmetic wedges and shims to pass inspection...if any, since your building material is already allocated. So, buying inventory house is only good if you are one of the first 10 buyers of the community. Otherwise, you are gambling on the quality since everything has been covered up when they stick the FOR SALE sign.
It is obvious that DR Horton uses sub par sub contractors that lack experience, pride, knowledge, or quality in their workmanship...then the question is would you want the original sub contractors to be the ones to return to make the corrections? The contractors that allowed this type of incomplete, incorrect, and overall poor workmanship and/or design...and believe that they could be trusted and would make the right and proper corrections...that at this point in time could potentially be very costly to them...or should you buy a home from a builder that uses unqualified lowest bid sub contractors...then lacks the supervisory workforce to properly supervise those subs for quality during each phase and throughout the entire construction process...all because that could or would impact the bottom line...it is a very sad situation in so many ways...and I also believe it is also a problem that varies depending on the location...I know that some of what I've seen online from DR Horton and other national builders would most definitely not fly in my area and state...then again it is reflected in the sale price...
You are going to be so sorry you bought that house. They don't want a framing specialist because he will tell you to run as fast as you can. There should not be tat many misses in the roof.
The only reason that DR Horton doesn’t have more lawsuits is because of their tricky wording in their contract. If you read your contract, it will stay that you cannot sue them, and that you have to go through an arbitrator. That’s a huge red flag right there. You buy from them and you are totally screwed. I’m just telling you. You’ve been warned.
I would look at why you have a sewer transfer pump. Check other houses if they have the pumps. Could be a screw up from main sewers pipes not deep enough.
I cant comprehend gutters being considered an 'option', you may as well have the slab and windows as an option because both will perish inside 5 years without gutters. The fact that the down-pipes aren't plumbed to a stormwater system is insane for a similar reason, it's going to turn the soil under the slab to muddy slush, inviting black mold, timber rot and slab subsidence. Also the gaps around windows, wall joints and eave trim joints are NOT 'just cosmetic', anything that allows ingress of water inside the walls or attic; is structural. Even if the roofing supervisor wasn't lying about the boards, (which I highly doubt), the free hanging nails will create increasingly larger holes as normal movement occurs, allowing rain to penetrate into the attic. Run; away.
And that hill looked like it could slide. So Cal. guy and we got slides. Son perharbs you should count this blessing and a sign. Commenter a few below really said it all. THEY'LL BE NICE FOR A LITTLE WHILE!!!!!
If there are obvious signs of shoddy workmanship, you can rest assured that many other things could be second rate, starting with the pish poor design that features doors that bang into each other. How can Corporate blame some tradesman for shiddy work when the layout is obviously shiddy before work even starts?
The roofing nails missing the truss is very common, and the way the roofing supervisor checked to verify the OSB was secured is valid. Your reasoning for moving forward is spot on. Once you own the home you can have a trusted specialist check out the framing, cornice, and roofing. The closet issue, I would make them fix before closing. It will be about week or so repair if they have the carpet on hand.
The bathroom door, the garage entry, the bedroom door ... that alone would make me walk. In FL, we have wind codes and the misses to the decking would be a complete deal breaker. IDK how you squeeze 4bd in 1500' but that's not the way to do it.
I did residential punch out and inspections for my entire contracting career, and if I saw what you have here, Id advise to retain counsel and get out of that contract. Another thought is if you get a CO from the city, your inspector is a complete blind idiot. That house is a disaster and you will be experiencing serious problems within a couple years, especially with water ingress. My suggestion would be to run away from it as fast as you can.
It's not just D.R but most of there big builders that have issues. Blame should go to their Superintendent/Project Manager that is in that neighborhood every single day
I'm not a homeowner so I'm just curious - why would someone want to buy a house after seeing many things weren't installed correctly. Are Dr horton homes a fraction of the price of well built houses?
They tend to be lower in price especially these days. Customs homes are ridiculously expensive. Most things wrong with my house were minor and all got fixed. So far so good.
It's always good to have a third party. Frame and inspector come out to confirm. You should've never closed on this house and ran what were you thinking? This was 11 months ago. What else have you discovered? Are they returning your calls?
I am about to do a 1 year update video. So far I guess I got lucky. No major issues and all issues I had prior to closing and after closing was resolved in 48 hours.
I would say that the doors hitting other doors is an architectural design issue. I am guessing that DR Horton--and maybe all of them--don't use their own employees to build homes, but rather the crews are all subcontractors. That means that the quality of the home is only as good as the ability for DR Horton to keep an eye on what the subs are doing. In other words, there is very little guarantee of quality.
DR Horton? Run! 3rd World framing. DR Horton is the Dollar General of construction. Stepped drip molding? Holy crap. They just used scraps. The concrete is gonna be a BIG problem. Another warning: DR Horton only uses 2500PSI concrete mix ( not 3000 or 3500) and wet it on site to get the slump they want. You will need to replace it in a decade.
Had a roof installed. The roofer advised he would be a while because he fired 20% of his crews, all Hispanic , receiving complaints weekly. He told me he’d rather slow down and do them right then correct the problems costing him time, money and reputation.
They will b super nice until a few months after u close on the house.
One would be crazy to buy this home.
Why
@@productive23 Too little for way too much $$$
@@productive23 Watch the video he points out a ton of stuff.
It's literal trash @@productive23
When a company won't let you bring in your own spealist, it's a red flag, DO NOT BUY
Dude - I think you're making a big mistake. Walk away while you still can!
This had to be the rosiest DR Horton video I've ever seen. He's either getting paid or they know he has a RUclips channel and are going above and beyond what they'd normally do hoping he makes more videos like this.
No run away man 👻🤪
If I saw those nails that could have been corrected I’d run away it shows no one looked or checked unbelievable and disgusting 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾
You're a very forgiving guy, my dude. Where I live, this shoddy construction would never fly.
Hell they’re all built like that!
Gutters are required by Code where I live! Many of these would violate building codes where I live. I hope they fix all of this for you. They have a horrible reputation in our area and the houses sit and don’t sale.
A home inspector can only find so much...the biggest problems are 7 yrs down the line...
You can have a general inspector but you can't have a specialized inspector? I guess they don't want you to find out the truth . if they aren't interested in finding defects and fixing them before closing, good luck getting it fixed afterwards. Even If their guy really did check the roof nailing, they aren't going to say there is a problem because they don't want to rip the old roof off. Doors that hit each other? Bathroom door that hits the glass shower door? How does that happen in a Floorplan from a big builder that they use over and over and over again? So the design of the home is as problematic as the craftsmanship.
Not defending the builder, but you can find some pretty horrendous "foreman" in these cookie cutter operations. So... well, it's only mostly the builder 👷♂️
@@timolson515DR Horton has a history of shady builds and not following thru on fixing issues.
I don't think that is "a potential major issue"-that is a HUGE issue. NEVER accept "corporate policy"-just walk. NEVER accept the "company" specialist/inspector. I wouldn't buy because they got measurement of everything WAY off with all of the doors banging into each other.
This is just like RVs. They will NOT fix it after you buy it. Plus, if they did that type of work when they wanted to sell you the house, do you want them to "fix" it?
Are u going to walk from your deposit?
It is obvious that DR Horton uses sub par sub contractors that lack experience, pride, knowledge, or quality in their workmanship...then the question is would you want the original sub contractors to be the ones to return to make the corrections? The contractors that allowed this type of incomplete, incorrect, and overall poor workmanship and/or design...and believe that they could be trusted and would make the right and proper corrections...that at this point in time could potentially be very costly to them...or should you buy a home from a builder that uses unqualified lowest bid sub contractors...then lacks the supervisory workforce to properly supervise those subs for quality during each phase and throughout the entire construction process...all because that could or would impact the bottom line...it is a very sad situation in so many ways...and I also believe it is also a problem that varies depending on the location...I know that some of what I've seen online from DR Horton and other national builders would most definitely not fly in my area and state...then again it is reflected in the sale price...
@@highlightsateleven5434 what are u talking about it's reflected in the price? If u think u need to pay 900k for toll bros to get quality n 400k u expect crap quality... U r stupid
@@danman1287no deposit should ever have been given.
This video demonstrates toxic optimism; hiding behind the toxic optimism is the toxic mold.
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It's the american culture of low expectations and mediocrity, this would not be acceptable 50 years ago...this is why the food we eat is full of garbage chemicals, why everything we buy breaks...rich people never have to worry about any of this. It's a cardboard life, everything is rotten on the inside, but the outside looks good so it must be good right?!?
Run!
Build quality on new homes over the last 10 years has dropped off a cliff with the materials being cheap and the labor putting the house together even cheaper
Their corruption will catch up to them.
But yet the prices are continuously going up.
When your 30-40,00 craftsman short in the country, this is the kind of work you get. Time is money . Do you really think if a guy nails down on a roof knows he missed the rafter? A do you think he went back?
Spend an afternoon and watch them work. I worked on a job one time the framers came back to install the hurricane clips they forgot when framing. How many of those never made it and how many got all the nails in them because they couldn't reach them?
Good job taking the gutters since That's the biggest cause for water damage , bad or no gutters. No gutters on a new house? PLEASE .
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@@bobainsworth5057 And check the flashings. I have seen vents, windows, and pipes that got their flashing lapped the opposite way like a mini gutter/rain catcher. Someone has to drop a hammer to teach them rainwater flows downward.
Since when does a homeowner have to abide by the builder's corporate policy to dictate whom he or she can have come over and inspect their home. Be it a general contractor or a specialist?
because you don't own the home yet...and up until the signing and closing it is their property and home...it's such a ridiculous and absurd thing to dictate to the buyer that it should make you think real hard as to what the reason for that might be...
I found 45 items that had to be fixed before the installation and drywall was installed on my house. Trust me, you don’t want to know what’s behind the walls that are now covered up.
What is?
@@jdos5643insulation
@@barpatron it's Carrot Top.
He tried to warn you...
Let me guess, Modelo and Corona bottles
@@csmlouis in my experience it is domestic beers that are more likely to become house deposits, models and Coronas end up in the trash can
I owed a DRhorton house for about 3 years(brand new when I bought it) and I've had more issues in that house than any other house that I've ever owned. My mom recently bought one brand new last year directly across the highway from my old DR house(different neighboorhood) and it's plagued with problems too. Stay away from these builders at all costs.
Sorry to hear that, I'm about to purchase a new build in the coming months, but I'm afraid of all these problems I keep hearing about, don't know what to do.
@@JC-ms1pg get your own independent home inspection done. They are going to try to persuade you not to get one, but I’m telling you you’re better off getting one. And make them fix everything they find before you close. They will try to fight you on some of that too but they’ll eventually cave and fix it. They have been pretty good and coming back to my moms and fix the issues that arose after closing but you have to stay on top of them. We are in south Louisiana so the quality may vary by region.
Thanks for the quick reply, I intend to get an inspection, it's just a shame that homeowners have to go through this kind of thing, shelling out their hard earned money only to be faced with massive repairs on a new build, it infuriates me!
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🏃 don’t buy DRHorror
@@cxc6001'I won't buy' . . .
Bought a DR Horton home once in Frisco TX. Never again.
I flipped a lot of homes in Vegas ... Dr Horton had the worst construction... 2nd FL was not planed
im a 23 year Texas home inspector... I see this stuff all the time. they all use the cheapest labor.
DR Horton's plumbing contractor installed all the plumbing incorrectly. We fought for years for them to fix it. We had to pay out of pocket so we could have hot and cold water correctly.
@@JimBurdan79I saw a guy to fought with them to have his home fixed. They ignored him. Up until he posted their dirty deeds on social media such as tik tok and it went viral. Soon enough Horton company responded and fixed his house
A potential home buyer is forbidden to hire a framing inspector? Corporate policy? When does a homeowner become subject to a corporate mandate? That right there, denying a potential buyer their own inspection, that is a red flag. But I understand now. Building safe and well crafted homes is apparently a violation of corporate policy.
this is the reason we didnt buy a DR Horton home here in Ft Worth...we went with a small local builder....much better built, now 9 years and no problem at all...
My Grandfather and a neighbor built my house in 1930, using lumber from a building they tore down. It was where my Daddy was raised, later rented out, and left empty for a couple of years. Wife and I moved in in 1991. This house has survived many hurricanes, winters, and other storms. It will most likely be here long after me. It is not over insulated/sealed for energy savings. With Gulf Coast humidity, a house has to breath to prevent mold and rot. Many modern energy saving insulations make a house to air tight for this climate. Old folks knew what they were doing.
I couldn’t agree more! Those old folks definitely built houses to last!
The wood we use today is inherently inferior to the wood used in the past. 80% of the old growth forests in the US are gone. Wood from older trees (couple of hundred years old) is superior to wood from younger trees.
I live in a 1950s Fox and Jacobs home made from American sweat and cedar. No issues.
Them telling you that you cannot hire a framing inspector, because it is against their corporate policy... I would have told them that if they wish me to close on the home, that I will do any inspection I wish! Corporate policy isn't what I'm allowed to do by law. If I have an inspection clause in the contract, I can hire any inspectors I wish. If they don't like that, I'll see them in court. I had a builder show me plans when I bought a home, and they showed an outdoor patio area. Later they changed their mind, likely decided they could save some money, and changed their landscaping plans so I had no outdoor patio area. This home had been built on spec by the developer, so I had only a small earnest money deposit, which the contract stated I would get back if we failed to close. A week before close they told me they wouldn't be doing the patio. I said I understood, and wanted to know how much off I was going to get. They laughed and told me they could change their plans at any time. I laughed and told them I could walk away as well. I got the patio and landscaping I had understood was going to go in originally.
Wow, that inspector was super thorough! Good on him!
These large home builders (D.R. Horton, Lennar) pop up houses real quick & subcontract labor. These homes are flimsy at best, but shoddy work can make them more costly down the road for buyers who, past warranty period, discover issues expensive to fix out of pocket. They just don’t make quality houses anymore.
Dude that attic is a flat out no go
He'd better hope no thunderstorms hit, let alone a tornado. The roof will go flying.
How could you get 4 bedrooms in a 1500 sq. house? I have a 1600 sq. house with 3 bedrooms and the bedrooms are way to small.
Rooms are small and the 4th room is more of an office as opposed to a bedroom but it still qualifies as a bedroom
I didn't mean to sound rude but I wish I would have bought the next size bigger house for that reason. Thanks.@@MoneyHungryPicker
Yeah that is alarming in itself. My townhouse in dallas is 1515 sq and its a two bedroom
Thank you for your very thorough review. I've come upon some new builds and did a quick internet search and found mixed results.
I built a house in 1995 and the build quality even then was at best mediocre
If they misses all these cosmetic issues and doors hit other doors, I would be terrified of what is lurking behind the walls
He is much too calm about this
Red flags galore.
Excellent. We decided to buy DR house today. Still and empty lot and this convinces me to get inspector prior to closing. DR is the GC but it’s the subs that build it and get it right or wrong.
Definitely get a home inspector, new or existing, things can be missed all the time, the more eyes on it the better
Don't sign anything if it says you have to close by a certain date and if you don't close you will have to pay per day. They won't fix anything you point out at the walk though but you will still HAVE to close.
It may be too late, but get an inspection before insulation and drywall go up, that finds structure issues before they are covered up. This is the cheapest time for both you and the builder to fix these issues.
Don’t do it, run. Read your contract carefully and I guarantee you it will state that you cannot sue them for anything. You can only use arbitration. That is a huge red flag.
It's not just DR Horton, it's most builders. I think so much falls on the specific community you are looking at, the subcontractors they are using, the construction manager and the project manager. If the construction manager is cutting corners and using cheap materials and using the cheapest sub contractors to get it up as quick as possible and the project manager is just worried about time, you will have issues.
I bought a DR Horton townhome back in 2009 and had no problems but some of my neighbors said they had problems. I think that had to do with different phases and using different subcontractors. The thing is, as a buyer, you have no transparency into what is going on behind the scenes. Your best recourse is to hire your own home inspector but they won't catch everything either and if it's already sheetrocked, the inspector won't see anything that is messed up behind the walls but always hire your own independent home inspector.
DR Horton built my new home in South Carolina. You said the truth about DR Horton using inexpensive contractors, cheap materials, and superintendents that were not qualified. It took 1 1/2 years of fighting to get 73 issues resolved. New home owners must document every construction issue and bring these issues to the builder immediately. In conclusion, it's the workers that are skilled or not and the superintendent for DR Horton that determines the quality of your home. Good Luck
Private inspectors usually know what to look for in home building. But Horton frowns upon ppl hiring their own inspectors.
@@jdos5643let them frown, it's your right. You can get inspection, ( private), a each phase. If they won't let you , dont buy house. I was looking at a house that had the door and stairs to basement in a narrow hall. I asked them to move it 4' to the garage so i would be able to get sheet rock down there, and they refused. I walked out. I'm spending hundreds of thousands of dollars and they cant ove a door? They didn't even offer to do it for a price.
Honestly man, the problem isn't what you can see but what's hidden behind walls or from view. Getting a private inspector to oversee the different development stages of the home being built is crucial because these homemaking companies don't care about anything but building fast and selling quick. Remember that homes are built by a general contractor, not a house building company. Just spending the extra money to oversee a house being built right can save you a lot more money down the road when more serious problems start occurring.
I have a DR Horton home in Ga I’ve lived in for 22 years. Outside of normal wear and tear we haven’t had severe issues knock on wood!
Yeah, they had a good reputation before they expanded so much.
That’s wonderful!! ❤
Good luck getting them to fix anything after settlement.
They have fixed everything post closing within 48 hours.
@@MoneyHungryPicker that is great. Bet your video helped. Congratulations on your new home!
About to make a DR purchase in Arkansas. Thanks for your videos!
Imagine buying any other product, esp at the price point of a house, and having to hire your own person to QA it because you can't trust the company to build it right themselves.
This reply just won the internet. Great message.
3:19 water penetrating the siding will flow to that ledge. Sealing with Caulk may channel water toward the house. Careful about caulking around windows as well, water needs a place to escape.
Yes thank you. We decided not to caulk that area
@@MoneyHungryPicker I've seen a lot of homes like this that is not caulked. I think the most important thing is to make sure you have a slope on the bricks so water can flow away instead of towards the wall.
These aren't one-off mistakes. These are indicative of systemic failures in craftmanship and quality. I would be worried about what else starts popping up after living in it for a while. It would be a hard pass from me.
No such thing as a "really good built" DR Horton home.
I'm also a Horton customer!
In fact, in the matter of house construction, there are always a few aspects related to:
Materials - cheap, low-cost materials will quickly fail later! (cheap home)
Managers, subcontractors, and workers in order of preference.
Comes from the worker - there will be one person or another, some people with weak skills, some with good skills - a problem with weak skills (weak skills and cheap labor costs)
But on the worker is the manager - is the subcontractor - if the subcontractor gets cheap and the subcontractor team is not good, it can't do better.
Higher than the subcontractor is Horton's general management team - if the management team is good (the salary is also high) and responsible, they will never neglect and ignore the mistakes - petty mistakes that ruin project value!!!!
DR Horton's management/superintendents may be good and qualified but there aren't enough of them to supervise their builds properly and timely...
@@highlightsateleven5434 They may be good at management, they may be good at making a profit - but the management of construction quality really needs someone who is good at the profession and always closely monitors the quality of the construction (the best quality with the money spent), requiring standard operations for each job - they really lack managers like that!
Have the home inspected during all phases, not just after it is completed.
So ugly that they chop down EVERY TREE to build those cheap cookie cutter houses. Pure laziness to cut all the trees down just so builders don’t have to work around them.
Might be a safety and maneuverability thing.
Hey great informative video! It's been 4 months since you posted this video, how are things going? I will say all those nails that missed the wood were disturbing! I've heard so many horror stories about these builders, I'm in the process of selling my home and buying a new build, but I have concerns about quality issues. Hope your new home is working out.
So far so good. Only a few minor things and they all been fixed by DR Horton.
Mine in 1998, slab cement was crooked in kitchen, no insulation in attic,water softener drain pipe not down drain stack, flooded laundry room on first regen. Drywall texture bad, painted over all,the dust on base boards. Boot print in concrete by front door. Pocket door installed crooked,wrong kitchen cabinets.lots of concrete cracks exposed when new flooring installed. Neighbor behind water floods into my yard under crappy block,wall. Wind blew over their wall.
Run buddy, run! Once they have the dough you have little leverage. "Cosmetic things" are critical to the next buyer. Hold their feet to the fire. Do they do a moisture test before applying the wall linings?
🎉🎉🎉 I will never purchase a DR HORTON Home. Too many complaints and not enough answers. Good luck everyone. Blessings,Carlos ✝️🙏❤️😊🇺🇸
We are about to build a custom home on our own property. The Construction loan bank will come out and inspect every time the builder is ready to pay the sub-contractor. Like the foundation work, roofing, carpenters… Only after the bank’s inspector and the home owner are satisfied do they release the funds to contractors. This way we should be able to catch most issues. We just closed on the loan this week. In the closing cost is money for an inspector to come out 5 times during construction and the final inspection. BTW we got a 6.5% construction loan 😮. Not happy about that, but that’s the going rate from any bank in our area.
With all of those "minor" issues I would be concerned with the overall quality. A builder/craftsman that would overlook some of those issues would also "overlook" or just simply ignore other issues. And it seems obvious they rushed through this build. And they wouldn't allow you to bring a specialist in to give you an opinion? BS!! Corporate policy? Yeah right. That would also be a clue that they do crappy work.
So glad you put this out before buying. Look at home inspector channels. You dodged the bullet. According to them these developers are horrible. All they care about is you getting the loan. And currently, there are no lemon laws on banks giving loans on these lemons.
I'm looking at a DR Horton home, and noticed the siding has dents/dibs where they meet do you know if that's something that's done? Similar to that flashing where it's puzzled together but no caulking in between. Thanks for the video, that lot is for sure great!
Do you not walk, run from Horton. Look at your contract that states you cannot sue them. You have to go and arbitrate. That’s a huge red flag. Do you more research do not buy anything from them. They will promise the world until you close and then you’re screwed because they will not honor any part of their warranty and you will not be able to sue them.
You are a very patient dude
Again if they leave obvious things undone or half-assed what things were unable to be observed.
Your concern with the nailing of the OSB board, it is possible at the time of nailing the OSB to the truss the worker did notice the nails were missing and re-nailed it again into the truss. The other problem is the nails that are missed and not nailed into the truss will work themselves back up and raise the roofing shingle and could damage the roof felt and shingle and cause a leak.
Wait - You had to pay extra for gutters? Is that a regional thing, or part of DR Horton's requirements? Just wondering... Also, I'd really be concerned about those nails not going into the trusses properly. That looks like a major structural defect to me. As you said, you're going to hire your own framing engineer to inspect it, but I'd press them on getting that person in before you close. I've read that they don't really honor their warranties. Best of luck, and hopefully, they can get the issues fixed!
They won hundred percent do not honor their warranties and you cannot sue them. It’s in the contract.
I realize that I'm seeing this 10 months later. I sure hope that you ran away from that house quicker than a fart leaves a fan factory. 😀
I have not bought a DR Horton new home but,…… I have bought two new homes in past twenty years!! The most recent in 2020. I will tell you it is all about the builder and how well they stand behind their home. We bought from a small but well known and great reviewed builder. Well, let me tell you,it was a nightmare the first two years!! We had water issues galore ,French drains had to be installed. Probably 40 different cosmetic flaws that he did fix mostly after we moved in. We were not as smart as you???!! Being we were buying a new home we thought no inspection would be needed?? Wrong!! Even-though,eventually it has all worked out we live in a new subdivision and the last ones built are going through some of the problems we did. So morale of this story new or previously owned get you a great home inspector just
Ike you did. Staying 6 hours is absolutely great!! I would venture to say not many if any newly built homes!these days,would pass such a thorough inspection as was done on your home!!! God bless you for sharing and wishing you much happiness in this beautiful new home,if indeed you purchase it. I love the yard!! Alabama is a beautiful state!! Roll Tide!!!! 👍
Yes, always get a home inspection before going to closing. I would never trust a builder and their "3rd party inspector". They are paying that inspector to get the house through inspection so that aren't looking for things at all, just trying to get the inspection approved.
Young man you said can still get out of this deal per inspection? You had SOO many issues I think I'd run like Warnar Bros Roadrunner. Beep Beep, puff of dust!!!!
One issue is that the mulch in the front of the house is too high. There should be 6' of exposed concrete below the brick so you can identify any termite tunnels built. The side and back were fine in that regard, but something to monitor.
The dryer vent box is supposed to be down to floor level per the manufacturer instructions. Having the dryer vent box higher will cause your flex hose to have an extra bend which will restrict the exhaust air flow and other issues.
i have never seen anyone run lap siding and not trim the windows and doors. I installed cabinets in Alabama horton houses for 10 years. i know right where this subdivision is. Look at the houses around you, does their siding look like yours. We probably installed those phase one and phase two houses. Horton and others rush their sub contractors. We did installs until dark, then we broke out our lights and installed some more. I always pardoned other subs work, because i felt that they were probably under the same pressure that we were
I'm a DR Horton homeowner. You made a huge mistake. It's not what you can see it's what you can't see. I would not have bought the home with the two doors alone. Also, did the inspector check the singles? Are they 3 ply? Every owner had their roofs replaced within the first year. DR Horton would not cover it.
my brother installed concrete driveway for parents and the neighbor, looks new after 20 years. no cracks.
I would not have purchased this house. I can miss the boards cause I don't do it for living, but these people do--I had "professional" plumber not long ago come into my home that I think was plucked off the street. He broke everything he touched and had no plumbing equipment. Getting things done properly today are tougher than when I was young, for whatever reason, but houses are going up so fast everywhere that you can count on finding lots of mistakes. I think I'm going to add Horton Homes to Ryan Homes as two builders to stay away from. I am looking for a second small home to get out of South Nashville, ruined now by the nonstop racket of the Nashville International Airport. Good video on your part.
I’m one year in. There isn’t a square foot of the walls that don’t have some sort of small debris. I tried to bring this up, vigorously, and the site manager said he can’t babysit the painters. I was so disheartened, still am every time I look at a wall. With the market the way it was, and my situation, I caved. There are other cosmetic issues too. Your video gave me some things on the outside to look for. How has your experience been since?
I just did a 1 year update video on my channel. Check it out. Best of luck to you!
You sound like an DR HORTON sales man, I wish you good luck , next vid in 3 years please please , best of luck .
Definitely not a DR Horton sales man. If my house falls apart I promise you I will be on here showing videos of every bit of the issues. 1 year update coming in April.
They need to fix all those things that is a brand new house. Why are you making excuses for those people. You buy this house and your asking for problems. You worked hard for your money man. Let us know how things turned out.
I don't know anything about DR Horton but I know fast and dirty construction when I see it.
In the southern states, it would seem to me that building codes are lax. Here in the far west, concrete slabs are always post tension slabs which will prevent most cracks. Not minor cracks but cracking. Alabama being a rainy humid state, I find it appalling that the eves are not larger to help keep water away from the building. It just looks to be poorly built using junky materials at least on the exterior. Around here and in my native Florida, cement tile roofs is standard even on starter homes. Same goes with stucco exterior walls. You won't see that Hardy board around here. D.R. Horton built a bit around here in Las Vegas. Thankfully, our building codes compared to there are much more strict and the main reason why our average home price is $450K.
Those are smart light switches you do not want to caulk around them you need to be able to take off the cover. The gaps in the shower do not caulk those either those are like weep holes in case you were to get water behind your tile it won’t cause mold.
I’ve never heard someone caulking light switch covers. I guess the only time you do is if the wall isn’t flat from shoddy sheetrock installers.
Yes. Those holes only allow water out. Never in.
Also. How big are your clown shoes?
Wow! Good video! So did your inspector say the cracks in the cement slab is not affecting the home structure? That was ok?
Yes. He said 99% of concrete cracks and he was not worried about it. So far so good!
The crew that build the first few houses are the most qualified crew afforded to the project. They would come to build the model and a couple of each elevation/trim from the catalog. Then, the cheaper crew would come and get the rest done like cloning boxes. There are no need to measure anything anymore since everything, on paper, is supposed to be pre measured and counted. That's why if a mistake occurs, the solution is to add cosmetic wedges and shims to pass inspection...if any, since your building material is already allocated.
So, buying inventory house is only good if you are one of the first 10 buyers of the community. Otherwise, you are gambling on the quality since everything has been covered up when they stick the FOR SALE sign.
It is obvious that DR Horton uses sub par sub contractors that lack experience, pride, knowledge, or quality in their workmanship...then the question is would you want the original sub contractors to be the ones to return to make the corrections? The contractors that allowed this type of incomplete, incorrect, and overall poor workmanship and/or design...and believe that they could be trusted and would make the right and proper corrections...that at this point in time could potentially be very costly to them...or should you buy a home from a builder that uses unqualified lowest bid sub contractors...then lacks the supervisory workforce to properly supervise those subs for quality during each phase and throughout the entire construction process...all because that could or would impact the bottom line...it is a very sad situation in so many ways...and I also believe it is also a problem that varies depending on the location...I know that some of what I've seen online from DR Horton and other national builders would most definitely not fly in my area and state...then again it is reflected in the sale price...
You are going to be so sorry you bought that house. They don't want a framing specialist because he will tell you to run as fast as you can. There should not be tat many misses in the roof.
Hope you buy it and give us updates
Yes. About to make 1 year follow up video. Stay turned
The only reason that DR Horton doesn’t have more lawsuits is because of their tricky wording in their contract. If you read your contract, it will stay that you cannot sue them, and that you have to go through an arbitrator. That’s a huge red flag right there. You buy from them and you are totally screwed. I’m just telling you. You’ve been warned.
I would look at why you have a sewer transfer pump. Check other houses if they have the pumps. Could be a screw up from main sewers pipes not deep enough.
Thank you for info. All of the other houses have same sewer transfer system. I did check.
Definitely not a fan of the three rooflines that all concentrate and dump their rain right in front of the front door.
Cardboard walls lol 😂
OSB plywood is silver??
When did that start??
@@alexburkesr.6358maybe 10 years ago, its for less energy loss thru the roof...
I would have walked away terrible job what will happen after warranty ?
He won’t have to worry about the warranty because they will not honor it anyway. Trust me, I know for a fact.
I cant comprehend gutters being considered an 'option', you may as well have the slab and windows as an option because both will perish inside 5 years without gutters. The fact that the down-pipes aren't plumbed to a stormwater system is insane for a similar reason, it's going to turn the soil under the slab to muddy slush, inviting black mold, timber rot and slab subsidence.
Also the gaps around windows, wall joints and eave trim joints are NOT 'just cosmetic', anything that allows ingress of water inside the walls or attic; is structural. Even if the roofing supervisor wasn't lying about the boards, (which I highly doubt), the free hanging nails will create increasingly larger holes as normal movement occurs, allowing rain to penetrate into the attic.
Run; away.
Lol once you get those keys lol good luck.
When are we getting the review of the 6 month review and living in the house?
Will try to make update video soon. So far everything is great! Only a few small issue all fixed by DR Horton quickly!
Concrete does not "always" crack. I built homes before nail guns were a thing, and knew by "feel" if I hit the spot.
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What did the building inspector say about the roof, if it was me they would replace the roof decking and all
And that hill looked like it could slide. So Cal. guy and we got slides. Son perharbs you should count this blessing and a sign. Commenter a few below really said it all. THEY'LL BE NICE FOR A LITTLE WHILE!!!!!
If there are obvious signs of shoddy workmanship, you can rest assured that many other things could be second rate, starting with the pish poor design that features doors that bang into each other. How can Corporate blame some tradesman for shiddy work when the layout is obviously shiddy before work even starts?
The roofing nails missing the truss is very common, and the way the roofing supervisor checked to verify the OSB was secured is valid. Your reasoning for moving forward is spot on. Once you own the home you can have a trusted specialist check out the framing, cornice, and roofing.
The closet issue, I would make them fix before closing. It will be about week or so repair if they have the carpet on hand.
The bathroom door, the garage entry, the bedroom door ... that alone would make me walk. In FL, we have wind codes and the misses to the decking would be a complete deal breaker. IDK how you squeeze 4bd in 1500' but that's not the way to do it.
I did residential punch out and inspections for my entire contracting career, and if I saw what you have here, Id advise to retain counsel and get out of that contract. Another thought is if you get a CO from the city, your inspector is a complete blind idiot. That house is a disaster and you will be experiencing serious problems within a couple years, especially with water ingress. My suggestion would be to run away from it as fast as you can.
Sewage ejection pump is neat, Until it tears up. Going to be big money and major headaches,
Um…this is a brand new home. This many problems in a new build? Are you kidding me?? RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not just D.R but most of there big builders that have issues. Blame should go to their Superintendent/Project Manager that is in that neighborhood every single day
I cannot believe you had to pay extra for gutters lol. I have never heard of that I Colorado!
I'm not a homeowner so I'm just curious - why would someone want to buy a house after seeing many things weren't installed correctly. Are Dr horton homes a fraction of the price of well built houses?
They tend to be lower in price especially these days. Customs homes are ridiculously expensive. Most things wrong with my house were minor and all got fixed. So far so good.
Almost all job sites demonstrate the portability and mobility of labor having no benefits. It keeps the purchaser from talking to labor.
It's always good to have a third party. Frame and inspector come out to confirm. You should've never closed on this house and ran what were you thinking? This was 11 months ago. What else have you discovered? Are they returning your calls?
I am about to do a 1 year update video. So far I guess I got lucky. No major issues and all issues I had prior to closing and after closing was resolved in 48 hours.
I would say that the doors hitting other doors is an architectural design issue. I am guessing that DR Horton--and maybe all of them--don't use their own employees to build homes, but rather the crews are all subcontractors. That means that the quality of the home is only as good as the ability for DR Horton to keep an eye on what the subs are doing. In other words, there is very little guarantee of quality.
DR Horton? Run! 3rd World framing.
DR Horton is the Dollar General of construction. Stepped drip molding? Holy crap. They just used scraps. The concrete is gonna be a BIG problem. Another warning: DR Horton only uses 2500PSI concrete mix ( not 3000 or 3500) and wet it on site to get the slump they want. You will need to replace it in a decade.
D.R.Horton or any builder who deceives buyers should lose their builders license.
Had a roof installed. The roofer advised he would be a while because he fired 20% of his crews, all Hispanic , receiving complaints weekly. He told me he’d rather slow down and do them right then correct the problems costing him time, money and reputation.
That’s great! However my best work was done by Hispanics. Hispanics are not the issue it’s skill level. In my area they are the best!
Not allowed to bring a specialist? Run away from this dump!