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5B1C is really fascinating to watch, especially this episode. Cities are of course not designed in real life by one person - they evolve and develop and grow and new planners need to make big decisions on existing infrastructure. To watch this city evolve and different builders address problems created by new developments and an evolving city is really interesting! And very entertaining too of course!
Booooooooooo i find Lee and some others to be very boring mainly because they don't play the game they go for this unreasonable realistic feel which is unfeasible in the game. Aka lee doesn't play the game he plays "god" his game play is boxing asf. Imperatur and biffa play a game IT IS NOT A CITY SIMULATOR IT IS A GAME!!!! TOO MUCH REALISM IS NOT GOOD
This is actually the most entertaining Cities Skylines series ever, mainly because of the way the different builders are interacting with each other's builds. Every single player series is boring in comparison.
I like the slow and considered approach here, twenty minutes of planning before you even start building anything. Really curious to see what this will eventually do for traffic. In case anyone's interested, here's some history for this city: 20-05-2021 - Start of the city, Czardus takes office as mayor, stays on for 3 years and 2 months. Builds a nice fishing town. 14-08-2024 - City Planner Plays takes office, for 4 years, 4 months. Builds a farm and cozy new neighbourhood. 23-12-2028 - Lee Hawkins takes office, for 7 years, 11 months. Fixes traffic and builds a hillside campus. 11-12-2036 - Overcharged Egg takes office, for 4 years. 2 months. Builds a waterfront and fancy tiered neighbourhood. 12-02-2041 - ImperialJedi takes office, for 3 years, 10 months. Builds a pretty interchange and expands the city into the forested hills. 22-12-2044 - Czardus returns to office, for 1 year, 10 months. Fills in open spaces and adds a forestry industry. 19-10-2046 - City Planner Plays returns to office, for 3 years and 5 months. Builds bike paths while the city burns, then redevelops downtown. 05-03-2050 - Lee Hawkins returns to office, for 10 years and 10 months. Earns the title of Lord Interchange and Master of Traffic, expands the city's industry. 01-05-2051 - TheTimeister comes in meanwhile as park planning consultant, for 5 years and 2 months. Develops a coastal nature reserve for the city. 21-01-2061 - Overcharged Egg returns to office, for 8 years and 6 months. Carves out a massive ore mine next to a small town nestled in the forest. 23-07-2069 - ImperialJedi returns to office, for 2 years and 5 months. Builds a mall and surrounding beachside neighbourhood, expands the city's industry. 27-12-2071 - Biffa comes in as traffic advisor/mayor, for 3 years and 3 months. Fixes traffic flow throughout the city to be better than it ever was. 25-03-2074 - Czardus returns to office, for 3 years and 6 months. Adds sprawling hillside suburbs and oil industry. 07-10-2077 - City Planner Plays returns to office, for 3 year and 8 months. Expands the city's downtown and improves connectivity and city services. 23-06-2081 - Imperator comes in, for 8 years, to develop an international airport across the river. 03-06-2083 - Lee Hawkins returns to office, for 1 year and 3 months so far, as of the end of this video. Redevelops Pine and Dale Hill and attempts to improve traffic. Give or take a few weeks here and there where power changed hands etc. (i.e. I can't be bothered calculating the days as well)
Why have I watched the whole of this with a smile? Mass demolition, suburban clearances, cross-country vasectomy, and more! Oh aye... You're Lee! Nice to have you back in the loop fella. Looking forward to seeing how you got from the end of the narrative in this one to the teaser vision of the finished article shown in the fly-by at the end.
Huge fan of Biffa as he got me into watching more RUclipsrs of the game. But what I love about this game is that you can take two completely different ways of doing something and have then both work. Most games have a one size fits all fix and this game seems to have multiple fixes for just about everything. If you like timed traffic lights, there is a way to set up your city to work well with them. Like lane mathematics? There is a way to set up your city to accommodate. Just glad we have so many skilled players doing cool things in the game.
Yes, Yes, Yes! Lee is back in business. Great idea with the proposed changes. Looking forward to the completion of the new team loop and to the next two episodes. Thank you!
Those who wonder about the missing airport and interchange by Imperatur don't worry. They can build at the same save file then "combine" those two creations with movit mod. You can see how it works on Timeister Golden Shores Nature reserve episode 23 at the end. :) 5b1c is fun to watch. Thanks to all builders
The level of thoughtfulness Lee utilizes...something he does today aids a future endeavor on another side of the city done by someone else...his talent is unmatched in it imo!
This is so cool to watch! That tramstop underneath the bridge is always overcrowded and that's bugging me from the moment it was installed. It seems like none of the builders have noticed it yet. But the sims down there are going back on to the bridge, take their cars out of their pockets and cause a lot of the traffic on there. I'm hoping this will be resolved.. But since I'm watching it way behind on scedule, I'll find out soon ♥ It nice to see you'll be in the next two episodes as well, because this was amazing!
Spiffing Brit would kill all the speed limits on those shortcuts (re: the Red Bull challenge if anyone doesn't get the reference) :D Biffa said at the time the TTL quick setup could be reverted to co-ordinated later by another builder who knew how to. The changes meant the timings didn't reflect the usage so he had to reset them to work at all.
Magnificent content Looking forward how handle the junction at oil terminal You should also try to make a video on the Red Bull challenge traffic fix under 30 minutes "@Lee Hawkins" And also looking forward to video of "@City planner plays" the Red Bull challenge traffic fix under 30 minutes @Lee Hawkins
Thanks Lee! I love your spin on things and for having the bottle to bulldoze where others (myself included) might just tinker! Looking forward to the next two instalments
Yeah I really didn’t think it was gonna take that long...but it sounded ok to me (and I always have a hard time paying attention to me since I already know what I’m thinking most of the time) so I decided to just roll with it 😁
To fix some of the Concordia boulevard interchange at 13:30 you definitely should add a ramp where that little built up area is. I think there used to be a solar tower there and since everyone is turning left on the current ramp you definitely should add a ramp so they can just go right.
13:50 I don't know what solution he gives eventually but this is such an easy fix. Build another off ramp from the highway onto the boulevard (demolish the buildings or use the existing piece of dead end road). The existing one will be right turn only, no traffic lights with a short lane to merge onto the boulevard, the new one right turn only (but from the other side) no traffic lights, + lane to get onto the boulevard. Zero traffic jams. Simply don't allow cars to cross the road, only merge onto it from the sides..
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto yeah I could feel your frustration trying to make the grades work whereas the RL solutions would be to build tunnels like in Boston, Newark, Philadelphia, Toronto, Seattle, San Francisco, and now Los Angeles. Hope they come out with a mod soon.
Love love love your episodes! It's also super interesting seeing your thought process for traffic fixes as it's a different perspective and I always learn things. Very interesting to see non roundabout focussed stuff too; I'm in Europe and they're everywhere, so it's nice to have some variety. Looking forward to the rest of your videos dude!
This is why this game are great. I would like to see a new collaberation between you, cityplanner, biffa and imperatur. A collaberation where you really improve each others work. I Love your content by THE way.
Lee, I love your courage in this episode. In many ways this is more realistic to real development because everyone is having to work with and around other peoples work and not everyone is fully aware of the others plans. It's making for such an interesting series and makes the process even more engaging. I'm loving all of the creators on this series as I only knew a handful of you all before starting it. Each of you brings something special to the city. The sum is greater than its parts. Go bold and refactor!
Finally, i always loved the insight you gave in between your build! Most city skylines builder are somehow only great on just either one of city planning knowledge or game mechanics knowledge (they’re great though! Dont get me wrong). But you always managed to strike balance between the two. You have slight dissadvantage compared other builders due to irregular upload schedule. But i believe your subscriber will always understand that, given the quality of the content. Thanks for your quality content today, lee! Ps: Seems like your rig is barely able to catch up with the amount of content of this city demanded, perhaps you’d might want to consider for some upgrades on your pc.
Lee: demolishes neighborhood Also Lee: I don’t want to terraform because I’m respecting the terrain. Lee: …demolishes roads and buildings again and builds tram tunnel (throughly graded mind you) Also lee: I’m just going to leave this ungraded Hahahaha
It's true...but I have found different strategies that make timed traffic lights much easier to pull off. I touch on some of this in the next episode. The biggest problem I've had in this city isn't so much with the traffic lights, but the land uses that overwhelm them. If you've seen More Money Less Traffic Series 2 Part 6, you can get a better idea of what I mean. It's really hard to have just ONE big interchange handling all this industrial and delivery traffic, as well as the garbage trucks. At the same time, it's not like there's enough room to add another interchange to scale back on the onslaught of traffic. So we're left with fixing the bottlenecks, then loading things back up to capacity again. Timed traffic lights IMO will handle things better than roundabouts at max capacity, but they still won't be able to do the job. At max capacity the problem is not the traffic controls or the intersections, it's the land uses causing the traffic. What really needs to happen is better land use planning with the transportation infrastructure in mind.
Glad to have you back, Lee! Looks like this might finally bring a long(er) term solution to that Main Street interchange. Can't wait for the rest of it.
I think i might try to do that a bit differently. In a sense by going more strictly along the road hierarchy concept - so by cutting down the minor intersections along the main road where the timed traffic lights are going, just to make sure the big road is actually able to act as higher grade road. Problem is that the (rather tight) grid in use doesn't really make that easy and would require quite a bit of work (and causing changes in zoning) which would disrupt the city quite badly. EDIT: Commented a bit too early.. so pretty much by doing roughly the same you are later on...
Another great video, Lee, very interesting as always. I keep half expecting you to tear out a bunch of the highway and replace it with 6-lane arterials, haha.
80s music @ the 47-minute mark! woot... oh, nice video too, Lee. Haha! Imagine doing some of this work in vanilla. That's been my challenge lately: working with city laters: up and over and more. Great work on this one. Looking forward to what you come up with in the other videos.
Always interested to hear your thoughts. 27 minutes of talking before doing _any_ changes was a test, I'll admit. I think maybe it would have been easier to follow along if you did the short version of the big picture first, then explained details while fixing them along the way.
I do really like this series (and the previous one) so I hope you are all going for a third, fourth, fifth etc etc. What I really love in this town is that coal mine, which I simply adore how it is dug down, something I have personally tried and failed at a few times to do in my own cities :D So keep up the work all of you And yeah we don't all agree with what every of the builders do in this series, but I am sure all of you and most of us who view can give/take critic on it, specially if it is followed up by arguments on why, so that we all an learn or contemplate it and dismiss it :D So I hope that many others like me, watch these for the inspiration on how to do things and learn from the mistakes all of you make, and we can sit and snicker at saying to ourself "Nahh I would never have done it like that" ;)
Meta comment about the whole series (and the comments on it): I find it super fascinating in people comparing the builders on this season into what amounts to two camps, the planning/engineering camp (Lee and CPP) and the artistic/detailing camp (Czardus, Overcharged, probably Jedi too). I find myself when I play moreso in the former, in Cities Skylines, but games in general. Most of my good friends are in the latter which makes for some great overall projects as we move whatever game we're playing back and forth to come to the most mutually agreeable solution. But I hadn't really looked at it that way until I was reading the comments and really noting how so many are connecting with some of the builders more than others -- and why. The diversity between builders I think it what makes the city so fascinating, even if we all have different preferences in which style we prefer to do (or watch).
Wow. Loved it. 1) Long on theory and realism, low on actual building. Unlike another commenter, I loved it, and is exactly what I was hoping to see in this video. Keep it up. As a game, even in a 30 min challenge anyone with more than a few hours in the game can turn a profit. So what is the 'challenge'? Realism. 2) You don't need to add a lil dirt stub road anymore, network controller lets you add a node wherever you want. Evolve, adapt etc :-p Remove node is also so useful. Damn I love that mod. Now USE ALL OF IT LEE!
Part of the problem with the timed traffic lights you used to have on Main St (and this cropped up at the Concord Blvd interchange) is that when the roads/intersections were changed (more lanes or dedicated turn lanes), the ought cycles didn't change with the lanes. They had to be competely re set up.
There's a flickering every couple of seconds. You barely see it, but once you do, you'll start to focus on it. You can see it clearly around 26:30. Other than that, very nice vid!!
I was hoping you'd tackle that Concord Boulevard interchange with the Cross Bay Freeway there. I envision taking out the folded diamond and *all* the development across the street and replacing it with a big roundabout connected by slip roads
Maybe you fix this later, but it looks like the new tram tunnel has sidewalks. I would think that both the transit and police departments would recommend prohibiting pedestrians through this tunnel. Maybe CS doesn’t have a way to prevent that, but maybe? 🤔
I did suggest before having a national road coming off the t section of the highway going north coming over top of the college. It would take a lot of the left turns off of main Street heading up to the college.
This has been one of my favorite videos in a while. My only constructive criticism is to fix fences with move-it as you change the terrain around them. It's something that people won't think of doing later, but you'll notice fences dropping off a 200 feet cliff.
Thank you! And in the next video you'll see that I fixed it off-camera. I putz around a lot when I'm detailing because...well it's detailed lol...so I like to do that off-camera when I'm not under pressure to perform 😁
So, after following each build of this series, a recommendation. The reason your early interchange creates such traffic problems is as follows. The interchange only has left turns. Every turn is a left. Except for the direction with the least traffic (towards downtown). Now, this might not be an issue if it were one of several possible on-ramps to the only connection in/out of the city for the area. But that interchange is functionally the only in/out. This means literally all your traffic is continuously making left turns/straight through. What you need first is a right-handed turns for entry/exit from the expressway. That roundabout can handle a giant traffic volume. Having 3 lights to handle left-turns rather than yielding right exits means your lights, rather than the roundabout, handle the entire traffic flow. So, instead of disconnecting the mining town, you could solve most of the issue by introducing additional exit/on ramps that force right-turns. Second, the city is solely connected to the express. Everything goes through it. And everything is forced down more local connectors to get to areas outside the main highway. So, you could also help really alleviate the problems by creating bypasses. Yes, they take up some space to create the bypass interchange. But a highspeed bypass going over the road, for example, will dramatically alleviate the congestion on the local connectors. Heck, taking a bypass through downtown even isn't a bad idea (and it being that the skyscrapers take up most of the view, would be almost unnoticed. Third, and perhaps most importantly--there are only like 3 exits/entrances for the main population centers onto the expressway. Those three are: main, the problem interchange, and the farming interchange. These 3 handle the majority of all traffic. You really need small service interchanges to connect the disparate and often distant pieces of the city to the expressway. A few small interchanges to handle local traffic will alleviate traffic on the larger interchanges that are handling mostly non-local traffic. Finally, there is very little interconnectivity between areas. You are working on that sort of here--but indirectly. Having just small connections for local traffic could help a ton and improve many other aspects. And some of that includes that almost every regional connection includes an interchange. Interchanges kept separate from local connections largely run more smoothly and get less congested. Areas should have a good balance of both. I'd note--I'd really consider putting in a bypass expressway as the city will likely need one going forward, seeing all the sprawl. Something going from the mining city down past the port along downtown and hooking into the other expressway (perhaps continuing towards the Barlow District). The fact that there are no bypasses for basically anything is, imo, the biggest factor hurting traffic--all traffic gets forced down the same routes. (Well, technically there is one bypass: the tram route towards the university, but it's not really a bypass in the traditional sense since it's stopping to pick up local traffic but w/e). Take it as you wish. But, considering the alternative is large-scale demolition, it seems that simple things like these may be the better way to go. Heck, even Biffa's roundabout was highly effective. Just, people kept changing roads to divert traffic back towards saturated traffic lights and saturated roadways.
Thanks for your thoughts! Here are some of my thoughts in response: I think that the highways, particularly the Crossbay Highway, are serious overkill for this city. I don’t like that the vanilla game (and in turn most custom maps) start you out with highways, because this is not how 99.9% of cities started out-maybe the suburbs did, but not the central city. I feel like Port Concord was built around the highway probably too much, and the highways have contributed to our traffic problems quite a bit by cutting off huge areas of the city. The railroad did this some too. Had I been the one laying out the core neighborhoods, I’d like to think I’d have made more connections across the highway. But this sort of thing happens in real life-only a few roads are built to connect things up and then huge amounts of development turn it into a traffic quagmire. The terrain really hurts us here too. I think your point about the bypass holds some validity, but I don’t know that it would really solve everything. I sincerely believe that this city has plenty of highway access, and that it doesn’t need more. I think the interchanges could be improved, but I don’t think we need that many service interchanges, I think we need better interconnection across the highways to reach isolated areas better. I think another issue here is conflicting highway philosophies-I am a firm believer that highways are for long-distance travel, and should not be relied on for connecting to the adjacent neighborhood. This means far fewer interchanges, more connections across highways, and more careful land use planning to avoid overwhelming the service interchanges. But if the other builders follow a more liberal service interchanges philosophy, well...things turn out looking like this...a typical small American city lol. I’ve found the results of this series very interesting because it really does exemplify that induced demand happens! There are ways to prevent it, but without central land use and transportation planning, it doesn’t take much to thwart the preventions. I’ll conclude by also admitting I have a pretty high tolerance for traffic congestion. I began ignoring the traffic flow percentage a long time ago 😂 and I know most players live by it. I just try to keep traffic moving overall, and lately I’ve begun to stop thinking so much in terms of getting motor traffic through and I’ve started looking for ways of minimizing it and optimizing walking, bicycling, and transit. But that’s hard when the next guy sees a spot for heavy industry and drops just enough in to overwhelm the intersection you just rebuilt to handle the current capacity. Maybe that’s my biggest downfall...is not thinking far enough ahead to optimize better for _future_ needs. Idk... 🤷🏻♂️ it’s a fun game, and it’s fun to muse over these things and look at things from different perspectives. So I sure appreciate comments like yours where you analyze the problems and make your case. I think I agree that the stroad thing with Concord Blvd was ideal. I think your bypass idea is valid, though I would certainly not make it a highway. I think something like the Bayfront Hwy in Erie, PA (the old part between I-79 and East Ave) would definitely have helped. I have some other ideas for the Concord-Crossbay Interchange...not sure if I’ll implement it though. I’m just out of time 😞
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto First of all--thanks so much for taking the time to respond. It's been a joy watching everything so far. That's exactly the bypass i had in mind too. I agree at current a highway is not needed. Just, it will mean potentially in the future ripping up small local roads and cutting neighborhoods in half. I don't think it's so much that you (or other builders) don't worry about future proofing. Rather, as happens in real life, builders are largely not considering the effect of induced demand. And unless you want to cut off major portions of the city from each other, that means needing either (1 more access points to diffuse traffic across different roads or (2 needing higher traffic flow on those congested roads. The best future proof, as evidenced by real American cities is this: create interchanges/intersections that can handle far more traffic than currently needed. Mind, not roads--interchanges. A four-lane road is enough to handle almost any traffic you create, if the major interchanges/intersections are designed to handle the traffic flow they receive. But I personally don't think you have the space without major restructuring for it. For example, the problem intersection could be fairly easily fixed I think: turned that series of lights into essentially a large roundabout. Now, it will have its own problems, but it should temporarily fix the issues currently observed. It should more than handle the flow for at least up to double (maybe triple or quadruple) the current Port Concord population. The second best future proof is by redirecting traffic across more access points (alternate routes). But it doesn't fix the problem, it moves it. Personally, I don't mind the starting with highways, or highway dependence. While many cities didn't start that way, they do develop that way. The unrealistic part is that the highway network here isn't built overtop of a preexisting network--you have few underpasses, parallel rods, roads beneath the highway in line with the grid, etc. Anyways, I personally have enjoyed yours (and others) works. Just my thoughts from doing my own megacities. I'm enjoying watching all your stuff so far.
@@donalddickerson206 I understand the usefulness of roundabouts, and I think they’re great for medium traffic situations, but I am really doubtful that it would work very well with the huge amount of long trucks and the heavy traffic we have at Concord/Crossbay because roundabouts really get bogged down with constant traffic coming from any one direction. I think it’s possible they could help here, but I think that if more traffic popped up from further development that it would just get bogged down so bad that traffic lights would have to happen anyway. My biggest issue with that area is just that there’s too many high-traffic uses all crammed into that area, and every time it gets fixed (whether it’s me or Biffa) more stuff just gets built in there.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto I've been wondering how traffic would look with some highway removal. Might be hard because a lot of the land use was built with the highway in mind.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto yeah, that extra neighborhood addition off the interchange really damaged traffic--especially after Biffa had removed it with free flow. Roundabout efficacy will vary. Right now you just need something higher flow. You have a buildup of cars, but my slowspeed estimates it looks like it's really only maybe an extra 8 cars per cycle that's causing the backup. Hard to tell whether it's the whole length of backup or just the 8 that it needs to be increased by. I only said roundabout (it'd really be more of an oval) as it's the easiest, most immediate, least space consuming, and least damaging to the rest of the network. A "quick fix" if you will to what I estimate will become a continually bigger issue. That's, if you will, the aorta of the city. Well, that and the main interchange. What would you prefer for such high traffic situations?
Wow ... what a cliffhanger! But I'm sure it will be beautiful. I'm just wondering how the setup of tram lines will actually look in the end and whether the existing metro station in Pine Hill will be moved or another one will be added to create a transfer option. "Addition by subtraction" - it makes sense but I would have preferred improved routes to alternative highway connections ... an attempt that might be futile. And I am truly impressed how well you derive your decision with your excessive and smart use of the traffic route tool.
I will say Biffa did have traffic fixed everywhere changing your previous fixes but I think some changes happened after that just pushed the limits of his changes.
Yeah it’s an ongoing struggle...it shows how critical good land use planning is. I would not have done some things the way they were done...it made things much much more complicated for not a whole lot of payoff.
Is it weird that during the critique of the now infamous off-ramp at 5:00 I was just imagining slamming down a pair of roundabouts at each exit to make a pseudo-dumbbell while bellowing *EMINENT DOMAIN?* Just me?
I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but it's looking like November at this point. I want to get them done sooner, but I've got other stuff besides YT competing for my time right now :-/ but don't worry...that is BIG on my mind too! I REALLY love making those! :-)
I was really hoping you will come and fix the gradient on Overcharged Egg's dual carriageway entrance to the ore quarry 😂 But wow, that's a way bigger project. Amazing episode and a little sneak peek at what's to come in the following episodes 🤩
@@petervanoostrom3191 No it is not gone. :) I think it was Timeister who did show how they can build at the same time and combine creations to same save file. :) it was at the ending of episode where he did build Golden shores national park
Mayor Lewis wasnt pleased with his peers decisions Do I dare to look in the mirror and say 'Mulligan' 5 times? Will the big rusty Bulldozer come and eminent domaine my house?
Hi Lee, now that you've built a fourth leg at the junction of the college and downtown intersection, why not put them two-way as it's just one of the highway exits and do away with the highway exit junctions on Main Street first. from the bridge. I believe it will reduce traffic and help traffic. grateful for your work, always fantastic.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto in today's episode you moved a lot on the bridge that leads from downtown to college, I think it's the first bridge you built. My suggestion is: do away with traffic lights on both sides. now that there is already the possibility of making exits and entries of the access loops that make it possible to not have conversions that cross the lane, as there are 4 loops. The problem is that only one, the one on the left of those looking from the college to the center, is one way or another, the others have only one direction, exiting or entering the highway. If all were the same as this one, there would be the possibility that no one would have to cross the lane to access the highway or to access the city, thus eliminating traffic lights. The only more complicated one is the one you built today, because as you built the entrance to the highway close to the lane and next to another exit, you would have to place it a little further forward to avoid traffic jams, and thus it would be possible to make it entrance and exit . The angle would have to be almost a semi-circle for this. I wish I could send you the drawing but I can't do it around here. haha
It is in the main bridge, in the main street, between, downtown and Campus. Chance the main street ramps in two ways, like the next one from the hospital
Nice! Figuring out why only 1 or 2 cars go per light at the Main/Cascade interchange might also help the rest of that traffic. I'm excited to see the other two videos!
While you work on your grading over there i go finnish collage, get married and have kids. I come back to see if you are finnished after that. Okay bye 🙂
Sorry for the lack of premiere 😔 I messed up on the upload! There will be more opportunities in the next few days. Please feel free to leave a few comments for my reading pleasure 😀
I hope you have plans to finish the university this round 😊
lol should it called 10B instead already?
Keep up the good work Lee. I really like you're point of view. Please don't be to hard on you're self. Greetings from Holland. Cheers
Always love your take on things, Lee! Fantastic area for a redevelopment! Looking forward to the conclusion! Cliffhangers 😱!!
Thanks, Phil! Now I have to edit the conclusion in miracle time 😱
5B1C is really fascinating to watch, especially this episode. Cities are of course not designed in real life by one person - they evolve and develop and grow and new planners need to make big decisions on existing infrastructure. To watch this city evolve and different builders address problems created by new developments and an evolving city is really interesting! And very entertaining too of course!
Booooooooooo i find Lee and some others to be very boring mainly because they don't play the game they go for this unreasonable realistic feel which is unfeasible in the game. Aka lee doesn't play the game he plays "god" his game play is boxing asf. Imperatur and biffa play a game
IT IS NOT A CITY SIMULATOR IT IS A GAME!!!! TOO MUCH REALISM IS NOT GOOD
To me this series has sucked. No lie. Too1 many episodes spent on fixing "things i don't like" boooooooooo
This time it was much better than season 1. Been loving it
@@jsalas5400 then why are you watching this video and acting like a spoiled kid in the comment's section
@@alienamzal477 spoiled kid hahaha its called criticism you dunce.
This is actually the most entertaining Cities Skylines series ever, mainly because of the way the different builders are interacting with each other's builds. Every single player series is boring in comparison.
I like the slow and considered approach here, twenty minutes of planning before you even start building anything. Really curious to see what this will eventually do for traffic. In case anyone's interested, here's some history for this city:
20-05-2021 - Start of the city, Czardus takes office as mayor, stays on for 3 years and 2 months. Builds a nice fishing town.
14-08-2024 - City Planner Plays takes office, for 4 years, 4 months. Builds a farm and cozy new neighbourhood.
23-12-2028 - Lee Hawkins takes office, for 7 years, 11 months. Fixes traffic and builds a hillside campus.
11-12-2036 - Overcharged Egg takes office, for 4 years. 2 months. Builds a waterfront and fancy tiered neighbourhood.
12-02-2041 - ImperialJedi takes office, for 3 years, 10 months. Builds a pretty interchange and expands the city into the forested hills.
22-12-2044 - Czardus returns to office, for 1 year, 10 months. Fills in open spaces and adds a forestry industry.
19-10-2046 - City Planner Plays returns to office, for 3 years and 5 months. Builds bike paths while the city burns, then redevelops downtown.
05-03-2050 - Lee Hawkins returns to office, for 10 years and 10 months. Earns the title of Lord Interchange and Master of Traffic, expands the city's industry.
01-05-2051 - TheTimeister comes in meanwhile as park planning consultant, for 5 years and 2 months. Develops a coastal nature reserve for the city.
21-01-2061 - Overcharged Egg returns to office, for 8 years and 6 months. Carves out a massive ore mine next to a small town nestled in the forest.
23-07-2069 - ImperialJedi returns to office, for 2 years and 5 months. Builds a mall and surrounding beachside neighbourhood, expands the city's industry.
27-12-2071 - Biffa comes in as traffic advisor/mayor, for 3 years and 3 months. Fixes traffic flow throughout the city to be better than it ever was.
25-03-2074 - Czardus returns to office, for 3 years and 6 months. Adds sprawling hillside suburbs and oil industry.
07-10-2077 - City Planner Plays returns to office, for 3 year and 8 months. Expands the city's downtown and improves connectivity and city services.
23-06-2081 - Imperator comes in, for 8 years, to develop an international airport across the river.
03-06-2083 - Lee Hawkins returns to office, for 1 year and 3 months so far, as of the end of this video. Redevelops Pine and Dale Hill and attempts to improve traffic.
Give or take a few weeks here and there where power changed hands etc. (i.e. I can't be bothered calculating the days as well)
The grade man out-mulliganed the mulligan man! 🤣
Welcome back, Lee! We missed ya.
Why have I watched the whole of this with a smile? Mass demolition, suburban clearances, cross-country vasectomy, and more! Oh aye... You're Lee! Nice to have you back in the loop fella. Looking forward to seeing how you got from the end of the narrative in this one to the teaser vision of the finished article shown in the fly-by at the end.
At least he do not achieved the mass destruction by ignoring huge conflagrations 😉
Huge fan of Biffa as he got me into watching more RUclipsrs of the game. But what I love about this game is that you can take two completely different ways of doing something and have then both work. Most games have a one size fits all fix and this game seems to have multiple fixes for just about everything. If you like timed traffic lights, there is a way to set up your city to work well with them. Like lane mathematics? There is a way to set up your city to accommodate. Just glad we have so many skilled players doing cool things in the game.
Yes, Yes, Yes! Lee is back in business. Great idea with the proposed changes. Looking forward to the completion of the new team loop and to the next two episodes. Thank you!
Those who wonder about the missing airport and interchange by Imperatur don't worry. They can build at the same save file then "combine" those two creations with movit mod. You can see how it works on Timeister Golden Shores Nature reserve episode 23 at the end. :)
5b1c is fun to watch. Thanks to all builders
The level of thoughtfulness Lee utilizes...something he does today aids a future endeavor on another side of the city done by someone else...his talent is unmatched in it imo!
This is so cool to watch! That tramstop underneath the bridge is always overcrowded and that's bugging me from the moment it was installed. It seems like none of the builders have noticed it yet. But the sims down there are going back on to the bridge, take their cars out of their pockets and cause a lot of the traffic on there. I'm hoping this will be resolved.. But since I'm watching it way behind on scedule, I'll find out soon ♥
It nice to see you'll be in the next two episodes as well, because this was amazing!
Tram gradients can be a lot more forgiving than regular rail. For example, the Lisbon tram system has a grade of 13% at its steepest.
That's with cables under the road.
Spiffing Brit would kill all the speed limits on those shortcuts (re: the Red Bull challenge if anyone doesn't get the reference) :D
Biffa said at the time the TTL quick setup could be reverted to co-ordinated later by another builder who knew how to. The changes meant the timings didn't reflect the usage so he had to reset them to work at all.
Magnificent content
Looking forward how handle the junction at oil terminal
You should also try to make a video on the Red Bull challenge traffic fix under 30 minutes "@Lee Hawkins"
And also looking forward to video of "@City planner plays" the Red Bull challenge traffic fix under 30 minutes @Lee Hawkins
Yes. And Lee is finishing the job. More or less. Lets see with the future episode
Missed you, Lee. hope you're doing well! Magnificent content as always!!!
The fact that multiple years passed in this episode is TOO REALISTIC 😂 😂 😂
Thanks Lee! I love your spin on things and for having the bottle to bulldoze where others (myself included) might just tinker! Looking forward to the next two instalments
really glad you are back
It's good to BE back 😄
Even though nothing was actually done in the 1st half of the video, it was fascinating to hear ur thought process
Yeah I really didn’t think it was gonna take that long...but it sounded ok to me (and I always have a hard time paying attention to me since I already know what I’m thinking most of the time) so I decided to just roll with it 😁
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto Before the video starting I was hoping there would be a review of the city. It helps create a sense of place.
To fix some of the Concordia boulevard interchange at 13:30 you definitely should add a ramp where that little built up area is. I think there used to be a solar tower there and since everyone is turning left on the current ramp you definitely should add a ramp so they can just go right.
Video title: Brutal traffic fixes
Reality: Talking about traffic for almost 30 minutes and then destroying entire district
At 47:00 love how the music turned upbeat as you realsied the grade was not too bad
13:50 I don't know what solution he gives eventually but this is such an easy fix. Build another off ramp from the highway onto the boulevard (demolish the buildings or use the existing piece of dead end road). The existing one will be right turn only, no traffic lights with a short lane to merge onto the boulevard, the new one right turn only (but from the other side) no traffic lights, + lane to get onto the boulevard. Zero traffic jams. Simply don't allow cars to cross the road, only merge onto it from the sides..
The man himself is back 👏
Trams can travel underground. If you could have underground tram stops, you'd be able to make Boston's Green Line.
Yeah...it’s super frustrating that you need a mod to do elevated stops too 😔
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto yeah I could feel your frustration trying to make the grades work whereas the RL solutions would be to build tunnels like in Boston, Newark, Philadelphia, Toronto, Seattle, San Francisco, and now Los Angeles. Hope they come out with a mod soon.
Love love love your episodes! It's also super interesting seeing your thought process for traffic fixes as it's a different perspective and I always learn things. Very interesting to see non roundabout focussed stuff too; I'm in Europe and they're everywhere, so it's nice to have some variety. Looking forward to the rest of your videos dude!
Do you have a background in engineering? You definitely have the most Civil Engineering feel of the content creators.
I have a background in software engineering 😁 I'm not a real civil engineer, but I play one on RUclips lol
True that
Welcome back. The downtown triangle expansion and the 17th interchange were CPP, not Czardus I believe.
Thanks, glad to be back!
This is why this game are great. I would like to see a new collaberation between you, cityplanner, biffa and imperatur.
A collaberation where you really improve each others work.
I Love your content by THE way.
It's great to see you back for your round, I feel like it's been months! Hope you are well and thank you for more fantastic content!
Lee, I love your courage in this episode. In many ways this is more realistic to real development because everyone is having to work with and around other peoples work and not everyone is fully aware of the others plans. It's making for such an interesting series and makes the process even more engaging. I'm loving all of the creators on this series as I only knew a handful of you all before starting it. Each of you brings something special to the city. The sum is greater than its parts. Go bold and refactor!
Finally, i always loved the insight you gave in between your build!
Most city skylines builder are somehow only great on just either one of city planning knowledge or game mechanics knowledge (they’re great though! Dont get me wrong). But you always managed to strike balance between the two.
You have slight dissadvantage compared other builders due to irregular upload schedule. But i believe your subscriber will always understand that, given the quality of the content.
Thanks for your quality content today, lee!
Ps: Seems like your rig is barely able to catch up with the amount of content of this city demanded, perhaps you’d might want to consider for some upgrades on your pc.
Lee: I'm bringing out the bulldozer
Me: *flaming elmo meme*
Lee: demolishes neighborhood
Also Lee: I don’t want to terraform because I’m respecting the terrain.
Lee: …demolishes roads and buildings again and builds tram tunnel (throughly graded mind you)
Also lee: I’m just going to leave this ungraded
Hahahaha
🤷♂️ 😂
If the fixes work, they work. Timed traffic lights do not always work. In fact, I’ve found, they often make things worse.
It's true...but I have found different strategies that make timed traffic lights much easier to pull off. I touch on some of this in the next episode. The biggest problem I've had in this city isn't so much with the traffic lights, but the land uses that overwhelm them. If you've seen More Money Less Traffic Series 2 Part 6, you can get a better idea of what I mean. It's really hard to have just ONE big interchange handling all this industrial and delivery traffic, as well as the garbage trucks. At the same time, it's not like there's enough room to add another interchange to scale back on the onslaught of traffic. So we're left with fixing the bottlenecks, then loading things back up to capacity again. Timed traffic lights IMO will handle things better than roundabouts at max capacity, but they still won't be able to do the job. At max capacity the problem is not the traffic controls or the intersections, it's the land uses causing the traffic. What really needs to happen is better land use planning with the transportation infrastructure in mind.
Glad to have you back, Lee!
Looks like this might finally bring a long(er) term solution to that Main Street interchange. Can't wait for the rest of it.
Missed you, hope to see more videos on your page soon!
I would just have skipped the whole tram-rollercoaster and used the existing white Metro line under Dale hill.
Very excited for your round of videos, Lee!! :)
always enjoy watching a lee hawkings traffic fix video.
Welcome back Lee, you've been missed! Been hankering for some of your content - hope all is good!
Well worth the wait! 👏 brilliant to see how to address height differences without levelling the whole area, genius! 🤯
A lot of grading trouble ends with a cliff hanger, nice :D
My punny mind never thought about it like that! 🤣
Props! 😎
I think i might try to do that a bit differently. In a sense by going more strictly along the road hierarchy concept - so by cutting down the minor intersections along the main road where the timed traffic lights are going, just to make sure the big road is actually able to act as higher grade road. Problem is that the (rather tight) grid in use doesn't really make that easy and would require quite a bit of work (and causing changes in zoning) which would disrupt the city quite badly.
EDIT: Commented a bit too early.. so pretty much by doing roughly the same you are later on...
Another great video, Lee, very interesting as always. I keep half expecting you to tear out a bunch of the highway and replace it with 6-lane arterials, haha.
There have been times where it’s tempting... 🙃
80s music @ the 47-minute mark! woot... oh, nice video too, Lee. Haha! Imagine doing some of this work in vanilla. That's been my challenge lately: working with city laters: up and over and more. Great work on this one. Looking forward to what you come up with in the other videos.
Glad you enjoyed it! I grew up on 80s music....so it makes me happy to use it in my vids!
Always interested to hear your thoughts. 27 minutes of talking before doing _any_ changes was a test, I'll admit. I think maybe it would have been easier to follow along if you did the short version of the big picture first, then explained details while fixing them along the way.
A cliffhanger!? can't wait...
Thanks for the entertainment!
Lee, I love your stuff!! I'm turning into a big fan of yours. CPP as well!!
Glad to have you back Lee! Amazing video. Can’t wait to see how this turns out.
I do really like this series (and the previous one) so I hope you are all going for a third, fourth, fifth etc etc.
What I really love in this town is that coal mine, which I simply adore how it is dug down, something I have personally tried and failed at a few times to do in my own cities :D
So keep up the work all of you
And yeah we don't all agree with what every of the builders do in this series, but I am sure all of you and most of us who view can give/take critic on it, specially if it is followed up by arguments on why, so that we all an learn or contemplate it and dismiss it :D
So I hope that many others like me, watch these for the inspiration on how to do things and learn from the mistakes all of you make, and we can sit and snicker at saying to ourself "Nahh I would never have done it like that" ;)
Meta comment about the whole series (and the comments on it): I find it super fascinating in people comparing the builders on this season into what amounts to two camps, the planning/engineering camp (Lee and CPP) and the artistic/detailing camp (Czardus, Overcharged, probably Jedi too). I find myself when I play moreso in the former, in Cities Skylines, but games in general. Most of my good friends are in the latter which makes for some great overall projects as we move whatever game we're playing back and forth to come to the most mutually agreeable solution. But I hadn't really looked at it that way until I was reading the comments and really noting how so many are connecting with some of the builders more than others -- and why. The diversity between builders I think it what makes the city so fascinating, even if we all have different preferences in which style we prefer to do (or watch).
Wow. Loved it.
1) Long on theory and realism, low on actual building. Unlike another commenter, I loved it, and is exactly what I was hoping to see in this video. Keep it up. As a game, even in a 30 min challenge anyone with more than a few hours in the game can turn a profit. So what is the 'challenge'? Realism.
2) You don't need to add a lil dirt stub road anymore, network controller lets you add a node wherever you want. Evolve, adapt etc :-p Remove node is also so useful. Damn I love that mod. Now USE ALL OF IT LEE!
Yes! More Lee!!
Do you not have Imperatur's updates on the other side of the river? I'm guessing these episodes were recorded before imperaturs turn?
Part of the problem with the timed traffic lights you used to have on Main St (and this cropped up at the Concord Blvd interchange) is that when the roads/intersections were changed (more lanes or dedicated turn lanes), the ought cycles didn't change with the lanes. They had to be competely re set up.
My favorite builder is back 🤠
38:00 we start seeing a Lee Hawkins devolve into madness here
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Welcome back brother 😊
😃😉
I love the fact that "Big BRUTAL Traffic Fixes" means almost 40 minutes of just talking about it thoroughly.
Well this is just Part 1...
it was sn endurance test..i passed but im still yet to receive any form of reward..
Jokes on you on the Cliffhanger, I've already seen the next episode 🤪😂😂
Curses! Foiled again by that blasted RUclips algorithm! 😱
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto I actually had this episode in watch later before, I just ended up watching the other one first SuperVinlin
Wait wheres the airport??
Been waiting for this. Welcome back Lee.
There's a flickering every couple of seconds. You barely see it, but once you do, you'll start to focus on it. You can see it clearly around 26:30. Other than that, very nice vid!!
Yeah, I noticed it the entire time I was recording...my system is having a tough time handling things methinks 😟
Glad to see you back Lee
Some welcome changes the city! And sharp looking jumpcuts btw, have you been practicing? 😜
😁
I was hoping you'd tackle that Concord Boulevard interchange with the Cross Bay Freeway there. I envision taking out the folded diamond and *all* the development across the street and replacing it with a big roundabout connected by slip roads
Was I the only one who saw that trolley bus jumping over the intersection!! (Right at the beginning of the vid)
Maybe you fix this later, but it looks like the new tram tunnel has sidewalks. I would think that both the transit and police departments would recommend prohibiting pedestrians through this tunnel. Maybe CS doesn’t have a way to prevent that, but maybe? 🤔
I did suggest before having a national road coming off the t section of the highway going north coming over top of the college. It would take a lot of the left turns off of main Street heading up to the college.
I think it would have to be a tunnel because of the hills. And that would just snarl Concord Boulevard at the Cross Bay.
Yay a Lee upload and 3 this week? Gonna be a good week.
I’d also like to see what happened to that other hwy intersection after you deleted that road segment.
This has been one of my favorite videos in a while. My only constructive criticism is to fix fences with move-it as you change the terrain around them. It's something that people won't think of doing later, but you'll notice fences dropping off a 200 feet cliff.
Thank you! And in the next video you'll see that I fixed it off-camera. I putz around a lot when I'm detailing because...well it's detailed lol...so I like to do that off-camera when I'm not under pressure to perform 😁
That tram at the beginning! 😂
So, after following each build of this series, a recommendation.
The reason your early interchange creates such traffic problems is as follows. The interchange only has left turns. Every turn is a left. Except for the direction with the least traffic (towards downtown).
Now, this might not be an issue if it were one of several possible on-ramps to the only connection in/out of the city for the area. But that interchange is functionally the only in/out. This means literally all your traffic is continuously making left turns/straight through.
What you need first is a right-handed turns for entry/exit from the expressway. That roundabout can handle a giant traffic volume. Having 3 lights to handle left-turns rather than yielding right exits means your lights, rather than the roundabout, handle the entire traffic flow. So, instead of disconnecting the mining town, you could solve most of the issue by introducing additional exit/on ramps that force right-turns.
Second, the city is solely connected to the express. Everything goes through it. And everything is forced down more local connectors to get to areas outside the main highway. So, you could also help really alleviate the problems by creating bypasses. Yes, they take up some space to create the bypass interchange. But a highspeed bypass going over the road, for example, will dramatically alleviate the congestion on the local connectors. Heck, taking a bypass through downtown even isn't a bad idea (and it being that the skyscrapers take up most of the view, would be almost unnoticed.
Third, and perhaps most importantly--there are only like 3 exits/entrances for the main population centers onto the expressway. Those three are: main, the problem interchange, and the farming interchange. These 3 handle the majority of all traffic. You really need small service interchanges to connect the disparate and often distant pieces of the city to the expressway. A few small interchanges to handle local traffic will alleviate traffic on the larger interchanges that are handling mostly non-local traffic.
Finally, there is very little interconnectivity between areas. You are working on that sort of here--but indirectly. Having just small connections for local traffic could help a ton and improve many other aspects. And some of that includes that almost every regional connection includes an interchange. Interchanges kept separate from local connections largely run more smoothly and get less congested. Areas should have a good balance of both.
I'd note--I'd really consider putting in a bypass expressway as the city will likely need one going forward, seeing all the sprawl. Something going from the mining city down past the port along downtown and hooking into the other expressway (perhaps continuing towards the Barlow District). The fact that there are no bypasses for basically anything is, imo, the biggest factor hurting traffic--all traffic gets forced down the same routes. (Well, technically there is one bypass: the tram route towards the university, but it's not really a bypass in the traditional sense since it's stopping to pick up local traffic but w/e).
Take it as you wish. But, considering the alternative is large-scale demolition, it seems that simple things like these may be the better way to go. Heck, even Biffa's roundabout was highly effective. Just, people kept changing roads to divert traffic back towards saturated traffic lights and saturated roadways.
Thanks for your thoughts! Here are some of my thoughts in response:
I think that the highways, particularly the Crossbay Highway, are serious overkill for this city. I don’t like that the vanilla game (and in turn most custom maps) start you out with highways, because this is not how 99.9% of cities started out-maybe the suburbs did, but not the central city. I feel like Port Concord was built around the highway probably too much, and the highways have contributed to our traffic problems quite a bit by cutting off huge areas of the city. The railroad did this some too.
Had I been the one laying out the core neighborhoods, I’d like to think I’d have made more connections across the highway. But this sort of thing happens in real life-only a few roads are built to connect things up and then huge amounts of development turn it into a traffic quagmire. The terrain really hurts us here too.
I think your point about the bypass holds some validity, but I don’t know that it would really solve everything. I sincerely believe that this city has plenty of highway access, and that it doesn’t need more. I think the interchanges could be improved, but I don’t think we need that many service interchanges, I think we need better interconnection across the highways to reach isolated areas better.
I think another issue here is conflicting highway philosophies-I am a firm believer that highways are for long-distance travel, and should not be relied on for connecting to the adjacent neighborhood. This means far fewer interchanges, more connections across highways, and more careful land use planning to avoid overwhelming the service interchanges. But if the other builders follow a more liberal service interchanges philosophy, well...things turn out looking like this...a typical small American city lol. I’ve found the results of this series very interesting because it really does exemplify that induced demand happens! There are ways to prevent it, but without central land use and transportation planning, it doesn’t take much to thwart the preventions.
I’ll conclude by also admitting I have a pretty high tolerance for traffic congestion. I began ignoring the traffic flow percentage a long time ago 😂 and I know most players live by it. I just try to keep traffic moving overall, and lately I’ve begun to stop thinking so much in terms of getting motor traffic through and I’ve started looking for ways of minimizing it and optimizing walking, bicycling, and transit. But that’s hard when the next guy sees a spot for heavy industry and drops just enough in to overwhelm the intersection you just rebuilt to handle the current capacity. Maybe that’s my biggest downfall...is not thinking far enough ahead to optimize better for _future_ needs. Idk... 🤷🏻♂️ it’s a fun game, and it’s fun to muse over these things and look at things from different perspectives. So I sure appreciate comments like yours where you analyze the problems and make your case.
I think I agree that the stroad thing with Concord Blvd was ideal. I think your bypass idea is valid, though I would certainly not make it a highway. I think something like the Bayfront Hwy in Erie, PA (the old part between I-79 and East Ave) would definitely have helped. I have some other ideas for the Concord-Crossbay Interchange...not sure if I’ll implement it though. I’m just out of time 😞
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto First of all--thanks so much for taking the time to respond. It's been a joy watching everything so far.
That's exactly the bypass i had in mind too. I agree at current a highway is not needed. Just, it will mean potentially in the future ripping up small local roads and cutting neighborhoods in half.
I don't think it's so much that you (or other builders) don't worry about future proofing. Rather, as happens in real life, builders are largely not considering the effect of induced demand. And unless you want to cut off major portions of the city from each other, that means needing either (1 more access points to diffuse traffic across different roads or (2 needing higher traffic flow on those congested roads.
The best future proof, as evidenced by real American cities is this: create interchanges/intersections that can handle far more traffic than currently needed. Mind, not roads--interchanges. A four-lane road is enough to handle almost any traffic you create, if the major interchanges/intersections are designed to handle the traffic flow they receive. But I personally don't think you have the space without major restructuring for it. For example, the problem intersection could be fairly easily fixed I think: turned that series of lights into essentially a large roundabout. Now, it will have its own problems, but it should temporarily fix the issues currently observed. It should more than handle the flow for at least up to double (maybe triple or quadruple) the current Port Concord population.
The second best future proof is by redirecting traffic across more access points (alternate routes). But it doesn't fix the problem, it moves it.
Personally, I don't mind the starting with highways, or highway dependence. While many cities didn't start that way, they do develop that way. The unrealistic part is that the highway network here isn't built overtop of a preexisting network--you have few underpasses, parallel rods, roads beneath the highway in line with the grid, etc.
Anyways, I personally have enjoyed yours (and others) works. Just my thoughts from doing my own megacities. I'm enjoying watching all your stuff so far.
@@donalddickerson206 I understand the usefulness of roundabouts, and I think they’re great for medium traffic situations, but I am really doubtful that it would work very well with the huge amount of long trucks and the heavy traffic we have at Concord/Crossbay because roundabouts really get bogged down with constant traffic coming from any one direction. I think it’s possible they could help here, but I think that if more traffic popped up from further development that it would just get bogged down so bad that traffic lights would have to happen anyway.
My biggest issue with that area is just that there’s too many high-traffic uses all crammed into that area, and every time it gets fixed (whether it’s me or Biffa) more stuff just gets built in there.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto I've been wondering how traffic would look with some highway removal. Might be hard because a lot of the land use was built with the highway in mind.
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto yeah, that extra neighborhood addition off the interchange really damaged traffic--especially after Biffa had removed it with free flow.
Roundabout efficacy will vary. Right now you just need something higher flow. You have a buildup of cars, but my slowspeed estimates it looks like it's really only maybe an extra 8 cars per cycle that's causing the backup. Hard to tell whether it's the whole length of backup or just the 8 that it needs to be increased by. I only said roundabout (it'd really be more of an oval) as it's the easiest, most immediate, least space consuming, and least damaging to the rest of the network. A "quick fix" if you will to what I estimate will become a continually bigger issue. That's, if you will, the aorta of the city. Well, that and the main interchange.
What would you prefer for such high traffic situations?
I'm glad you are back. I was worried about you
Ahh~ the Mayor with the longest reign has return to the city!
Wow ... what a cliffhanger!
But I'm sure it will be beautiful. I'm just wondering how the setup of tram lines will actually look in the end and whether the existing metro station in Pine Hill will be moved or another one will be added to create a transfer option.
"Addition by subtraction" - it makes sense but I would have preferred improved routes to alternative highway connections ... an attempt that might be futile. And I am truly impressed how well you derive your decision with your excessive and smart use of the traffic route tool.
Nice to see you back!
dope
Would it also have helped to set a harsh seed limit in Green Street? Or would traffic push itself through there anyway?
Hey Lee! You committed on my last comment. Gotta still get that PC upgraded!!!
Whats the song at the part "Induced demand breaks interchanges" - can anyone help?
it's Kurt by Cheel: ruclips.net/video/heiHF33jwWo/видео.html
@@myrelaionredux5134 Thnx :)
Lee is back🤣🤣 .......Baby🕺🕺
At the end of the ramp their was a road added across the street. Which the timed light was not adjusted for it.
I address that in the next episode.
Not sure what it is about the way the metro was placed into this city, but it bothers me alot for some reason
I will say Biffa did have traffic fixed everywhere changing your previous fixes but I think some changes happened after that just pushed the limits of his changes.
Yeah it’s an ongoing struggle...it shows how critical good land use planning is. I would not have done some things the way they were done...it made things much much more complicated for not a whole lot of payoff.
Is it weird that during the critique of the now infamous off-ramp at 5:00 I was just imagining slamming down a pair of roundabouts at each exit to make a pseudo-dumbbell while bellowing *EMINENT DOMAIN?*
Just me?
When will the next episode in more money less traffic be coming? I really loved that city you were making on the 7 lakes map!
I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but it's looking like November at this point. I want to get them done sooner, but I've got other stuff besides YT competing for my time right now :-/ but don't worry...that is BIG on my mind too! I REALLY love making those! :-)
I was really hoping you will come and fix the gradient on Overcharged Egg's dual carriageway entrance to the ore quarry 😂
But wow, that's a way bigger project. Amazing episode and a little sneak peek at what's to come in the following episodes 🤩
THAT'S TF RIGHT LEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What happened to everything across the bay that was built?
Imperatur and I worked concurrently on the same save file 😁👍🏻 so everything Imperatur did will be integrated when Overcharged Egg takes over.
That was exactly what i was thinking! So now the whole airport is gone??
@@petervanoostrom3191 No it is not gone. :) I think it was Timeister who did show how they can build at the same time and combine creations to same save file. :) it was at the ending of episode where he did build Golden shores national park
Mayor Lewis wasnt pleased with his peers decisions Do I dare to look in the mirror and say 'Mulligan' 5 times? Will the big rusty Bulldozer come and eminent domaine my house?
This was fun
Loved it 😍
Looking good!
Hi Lee, now that you've built a fourth leg at the junction of the college and downtown intersection, why not put them two-way as it's just one of the highway exits and do away with the highway exit junctions on Main Street first. from the bridge. I believe it will reduce traffic and help traffic. grateful for your work, always fantastic.
Thanks for your comment! I’m not sure I follow what you’re suggesting though...could you clarify?
@@LeeHawkinsPhoto in today's episode you moved a lot on the bridge that leads from downtown to college, I think it's the first bridge you built. My suggestion is: do away with traffic lights on both sides. now that there is already the possibility of making exits and entries of the access loops that make it possible to not have conversions that cross the lane, as there are 4 loops. The problem is that only one, the one on the left of those looking from the college to the center, is one way or another, the others have only one direction, exiting or entering the highway. If all were the same as this one, there would be the possibility that no one would have to cross the lane to access the highway or to access the city, thus eliminating traffic lights. The only more complicated one is the one you built today, because as you built the entrance to the highway close to the lane and next to another exit, you would have to place it a little further forward to avoid traffic jams, and thus it would be possible to make it entrance and exit . The angle would have to be almost a semi-circle for this. I wish I could send you the drawing but I can't do it around here. haha
It is in the main bridge, in the main street, between, downtown and Campus. Chance the main street ramps in two ways, like the next one from the hospital
*change the ramps to two directions.
@@enriquesantana4579 so you’re suggesting that I go with a partial or full cloverleaf interchange?
nice
I wish you showed more building and not cut it out of your video
Nice! Figuring out why only 1 or 2 cars go per light at the Main/Cascade interchange might also help the rest of that traffic. I'm excited to see the other two videos!
The good news is...reworking this seems to have fixed that! YAY!!! 🎈
Green Hill has no transit to head to downtown. So everyone uses their cars from that area.
Yes!!
While you work on your grading over there i go finnish collage, get married and have kids. I come back to see if you are finnished after that. Okay bye 🙂