Thank you for doing this. Entering the PCP market is intimidating when you read (constantly) about these and those fill probes, lubing these fittings and o-rings, and not these ones. Maybe now it will be easier...
Matt, thanks for tuning in. As the PCP rifles are becoming even more popular there are more pumps being developed. This is good because the price keeps coming down. When I first started shooting PCP the max fill was 200 bar and your options was a scuba tank or a $1500 compressor. Happy Shooting 👍🏻
The darkside of pcp's! The price/reliability of avaible fill sources is the main thing preventing alot of break barrel users like me to get a nice Pcp! We are getting there slowly with the progress in the airgun world
I think as PCP's become more popular; we will see more affordable pumps being developed. I just came across another one I will feature in some future videos. Happy Shooting!
Hi JC, Thanks for great topic and information. filling the pre-loaded pneumatic starches (PCP) was always a hassle for various reasons. In recent years some portable compressors have emerged that are very simple and practical. They are the main reason that has tempted me to enter this world of (PCP). Have a great weekende.
There are so many different pumps out there. I will occasionally feature one randomly in some of my furniture PCP videos. My best to the family including little Nitro👍🏻😉
Nice, I use a hand pump on all my PCP's due to safety concerns around my kiddo. Yes, higher priced hand pumps are better than the cheap ones. I fill both an AGT Vulcan 3 and an Air Ventury Avenger.
Dam... Guess I was lucky ... My ole day took me from the old 22 mag rite to the 30 ot 6 at the age of 6... I was shooting the 357 by 10 years old.. he didn't mess with air guns, said they were for candy asses as he pulled out the full auto m2 carbine and said give this one a try boy... But only if you are a real cowboy... And don't be a little bitch because it will push you back
Walmart now has high pressure air cooled compressors up to 4500 psi for about $180 and up...extended service agreements available. Worth a look. We use a water cooled original ourselves. We fill a carbon fiber tank usually from 3000 to about 4300 psi on 1 cycle. From empty it takes much longer. Enjoy, be safe.
I have a break barrel .22 air rifle. I've thought about looking into a PCP rifle. I know they need charged but I never REALLY thought about how you do that after you purchase one. I didn't know the options or the added cost. Now I do. Great video and explanation.
Very informative video for people who are at the tipping point to enter the Pcp world, as well as for novice shooters. For the latter, I still recommend starting with a break barrel. Fit, pumping Chaplin in the background 😂👍
Thanks for the informative and enlightening video. Question: I have a standard pancake air compressor. Could you explain why i cannot use this source to air up a PCP air gun?
Mellons and apples 🍏 really not fit to as not to waste food is always fun to watch. It also kinda shows what each air gun is capable. Some are good hunting tools as the animals are not familiar with the report of the air rifle.
I've waited and watched for prices to come down, in Canada cost is fairly more expensive. I just bought a little portable compressor that had amazing reviews and the airjavelin pro, together it was close to $950, I plan on following manufacturer recommended operating procedures to the letter lol thanks for the video, found it interesting.
Hi, you didn’t mention why the air bleed valve, when is it necessary to do that, every time you unhook gun tank, or is it to bleed off all the air when hooked up to gun. Thanks for all your information. Keep up the good work.😊
I am looking at buying my first pcp and trying to figure out if I can use my workshop compressor or if I have to use a separate compressor designed just for pcp guns
Negative..you need at least 3000 psi. Most your home air tool compressors are 100-120 psi. The good news is there are many affordable choices out there. 👍🏻😉
Lewis of leader of the fame Lewis & Clark exploratory expedition of 1804-06 carried a French airgun throughout the trip. It was used for killing small game and to amaze the various Indians they encountered.
Love your videos. I just ordered my first PCP air gun. The Notos. Ordered the H&N field trophy .22 Pellets as well. Just need the compressor now. You use the GX pump but which model? Is this all I will need? Your input would be greatly appreciated. God bless brother.
Great video. One question though, can the compressor be used to fill a scuba tank? Or is the scuba tank too large for that? I'm trying to research pcp airguns as I'd love to get one someday.
That pumpb is a bit small. Send me an email, and I'll give you info on the compressor I have been using for years to top-off my tanks. Info@airgundetectives.com 👍🏻
Great Job JC. very informative for new PCP buyers. JSYK it looks like the Discount Code has changed already. LOL They have the new one listed on their website.
I have an EGAL CLAW LEVER ACTION GUN when I follow your direction on filling the gun, of bleeding the pressure out of the fill line ------all the are comes out of the gun, I called the seller and he told me to just let the air out of the line faster to make the air not come back out, is that right ? I though you just turned the bleed valve open and let the air out of the line, then just disconnect the hose.------------- I'm confused
Very simple...when you get to the full level on your gun, turn the pump off, open the bleeder valve, and remove the filler hose. You'll still let the pump's fan work for a few minutes to cool down the pump. I hope that gives you some clarification 👍🏻
Actually, those pumps have foam filter inserts. I change them out each day I use the pump. I let them dry out, and I'll use them a 2nd time. Thanks for tuning in 👍🏻😉
You're wrong about the date. Girandoni air rifles were first produced in 1779, but they were not the first precharged air guns and others seem to have been around several decades earlier. The first known air rifle dates to 1580, but that was not a PCP.
new here, great video! just a question, could you make a video refilling a pcp rifle with a detachable air tank? or does it essentially work the same ... i was just curious how the air tank can be unscrewed with tons of air in it! plz k thnx
I was told I should use a compressor for the first time Something about a seal And also told not to use a “scuba tank “ I’m not sure if that’s a expression or ????? Why do you have to purge the line Why not leave the scuba tank strait connecting…. Get the power!….?
I wouldn't do it. Those little air-cooled compressors are good for filling the rifles. The tanks have too much volume, and you would need a larger compressor. 😉👍🏻
I would be much more gray by the time you could fill a tank. There are some larger compressors that you can keep the 200 bar tanks topped off. These smaller ones are designed to refill the guns themselves. 😉👍🏻
Hello. What is the possibility of buying a separate 12V battery instead of using the car battery to charge my PCP rifle. I have a new GX pump I bought on Amazon. Harbor Freight has 12Volt batteries for under $50.00. What are the requirements for the 12Volt battery to basically run the GX compressor?
I NEED HELP!!!!! I just bought a new Stoeger XM 1 and it had some air in it and I shoot it all out. Yeah I am a newbie. I have a pump but I have pumped for 30 min. and the needle on the gauge doesn't move. I can hear air going through the pump and the rifle came half charged. I don't know what I am doing wrong, or does it take an hour of pumping when the tank on the gun is empty?
Probably gonna have to take it to a airgun shop or contact the company I'm pretty new to airguns but the only thing I can think of is something is wrong with your pump or the airtank what pump are you using?
The gun im looking to buy is a Hatsan Flash QE in .25 and it has a 165cc tank. Would it be wise to go cheap and save money and get a hand pump or spend the extra on a whole system.
Thanks for the video! Before I saw your recommendation of the Smaco, I purchased an Air Venturi Nomad II. It seems very similar and works well so far; but, it clearly states that it cannot fill the external tanks - neither scuba nor carbon fiber. Is this Smaco capable of that? If not, do you have a personal recommendation for a compressor that can fill these external tanks at home? Thanks again for making the videos! -Dan
I've done that very thing, the rifle started to leak air quickly from the filling port, I quickly fitted the adapter and pumped it back to 200bar, this must have re-seated the interal valve, as it held pressure when I released the air correctly at the pump. I even wrote a warning instruction to myself on the pump to avoid making the same mistake 😊 had this pump over 20 years.
Nice video! I really like that Smaco. Seen a re iew of it just a short while back. Seems way good. Would definitely concider a Smaco if out to buy a compressor for myself. And then I'd absolutely get an extrnsion hose also.
@@AirgunDetectives Nice! Will be waiting for that!😊👍🏻 Always interested to see what's out there. If I'd ever actually need a real compressor of my own. I've just been watching around for a new PCP rifle - something a bit more accurate and powerful than the Sig Virtus. Concidering lately a Walther Reign or a Hatsan Bullboss. The Hatsan kinda been winning because of it's price (around €600, - while the Reign being at about €950)..
I knew a pcp was going to be problematic when I put my lips to the nipple and tried to inflate it like an inner tube. Took me almost an hour and a half of blowing but I finally got her aired up 😉 😂. Would of been nice to see that method used considering it’s the most cost effective.
Farting is the equivalent of airing up with helium. Usually a nacho supreme, 2 bean burritos, and a Mexican pizza will do it. You gotta eat any way, so it’s fairly cost effective. You should use some kind of filter just in case though.
JC. with the right adapter hose setup can't you use the compressor too fill up the scuba tanks..??? So much faster in the field.. Please let me know. Thanks !
Those little no water no oil compressors aren't meant for that kind of work load the motor isn't big enough to stand the wear and tear, for the one I bought it's 30 minutes of run time 10 min rest with fan on. Scuba tanks require large industrial type compressors.
Thank you for doing this. Entering the PCP market is intimidating when you read (constantly) about these and those fill probes, lubing these fittings and o-rings, and not these ones. Maybe now it will be easier...
Matt, thanks for tuning in. As the PCP rifles are becoming even more popular there are more pumps being developed. This is good because the price keeps coming down. When I first started shooting PCP the max fill was 200 bar and your options was a scuba tank or a $1500 compressor. Happy Shooting 👍🏻
Super important topic!
The darkside of pcp's!
The price/reliability of avaible fill sources is the main thing preventing alot of break barrel users like me to get a nice Pcp!
We are getting there slowly with the progress in the airgun world
I think as PCP's become more popular; we will see more affordable pumps being developed. I just came across another one I will feature in some future videos. Happy Shooting!
Hi JC, Thanks for great topic and information. filling the pre-loaded pneumatic starches (PCP) was always a hassle for various reasons. In recent years some portable compressors have emerged that are very simple and practical. They are the main reason that has tempted me to enter this world of (PCP). Have a great weekende.
There are so many different pumps out there. I will occasionally feature one randomly in some of my furniture PCP videos. My best to the family including little Nitro👍🏻😉
Nice, I use a hand pump on all my PCP's due to safety concerns around my kiddo. Yes, higher priced hand pumps are better than the cheap ones. I fill both an AGT Vulcan 3 and an Air Ventury Avenger.
They can help you stay in shape as well😉 Thanks for tuning in 👍🏻
Dam... Guess I was lucky ... My ole day took me from the old 22 mag rite to the 30 ot 6 at the age of 6... I was shooting the 357 by 10 years old.. he didn't mess with air guns, said they were for candy asses as he pulled out the full auto m2 carbine and said give this one a try boy... But only if you are a real cowboy... And don't be a little bitch because it will push you back
Walmart now has high pressure air cooled compressors up to 4500 psi for about $180 and up...extended service agreements available. Worth a look.
We use a water cooled original ourselves. We fill a carbon fiber tank usually from 3000 to about 4300 psi on 1 cycle. From empty it takes much longer. Enjoy, be safe.
Kelly, great information. Thank you 😊
I have a break barrel .22 air rifle. I've thought about looking into a PCP rifle. I know they need charged but I never REALLY thought about how you do that after you purchase one. I didn't know the options or the added cost. Now I do. Great video and explanation.
No kidding. Baught me a blitz and w comoresser ect ect... I'm into it for more than I built an AR 10 for.
@@uainttheoneThing with firearms you can’t shoot in city limits but air guns with a back stop you most definitely can!
Very informative video for people who are at the tipping point to enter the Pcp world, as well as for novice shooters. For the latter, I still recommend starting with a break barrel. Fit, pumping Chaplin in the background 😂👍
You can get some exercise 💪 with those hand pumps😉
Ther ia a lot of people on these forums that are experts at nothing
Thanks for the informative and enlightening video. Question: I have a standard pancake air compressor. Could you explain why i cannot use this source to air up a PCP air gun?
Thank you bro. Gonna get me a bad ass PCP AIR RIFLE and was really needing to know how to charge the guns up
use a compressor they cost pennys now
Great show JC , nice to go over these things, it helps very much .... Greetings from England 🇬🇧 😀
a very fine + clear explaining - I´m bloody new and try to learn - for a HP Max ..
Yeah me too i've been preping myself and doing my Research into what kind of PCP I wanted.
i'm going with the Hastan Flashpup Bullpup 177.
Mellons and apples 🍏 really not fit to as not to waste food is always fun to watch. It also kinda shows what each air gun is capable. Some are good hunting tools as the animals are not familiar with the report of the air rifle.
I've waited and watched for prices to come down, in Canada cost is fairly more expensive. I just bought a little portable compressor that had amazing reviews and the airjavelin pro, together it was close to $950, I plan on following manufacturer recommended operating procedures to the letter lol thanks for the video, found it interesting.
Can you use an air compressor. I have a 45-gallon air compressor. Would that work.
Hi, you didn’t mention why the air bleed valve, when is it necessary to do that, every time you unhook gun tank, or is it to bleed off all the air when hooked up to gun. Thanks for all your information. Keep up the good work.😊
I was thinking the same thing. pretty important safety issue, not addressed.
You didn't say how many fills you can get off a scuba tank?
I am looking at buying my first pcp and trying to figure out if I can use my workshop compressor or if I have to use a separate compressor designed just for pcp guns
No...all stardard compressor from box stores CANT be used for pcp just dedicated pcp compressors
you need high pressure compressor mate
is this the only way> can you use like a pancake compressor > like something you would use to run a nailgun or other pneumatic tools?
Negative..you need at least 3000 psi. Most your home air tool compressors are 100-120 psi. The good news is there are many affordable choices out there. 👍🏻😉
Kinda stumbled into this world. Thanks for the info.
Great information All My mates that ask me how does this or that works i tell them to watch your videos
Thanks David...Happy Shooting 👍🏻
Good info .. Thanks JC ..
You bet!
Awesome tutorial 👍
THANK U!
Lewis of leader of the fame Lewis & Clark exploratory expedition of 1804-06 carried a French airgun throughout the trip. It was used for killing small game and to amaze the various Indians they encountered.
Love your videos. I just ordered my first PCP air gun. The Notos. Ordered the H&N field trophy .22 Pellets as well. Just need the compressor now. You use the GX pump but which model? Is this all I will need? Your input would be greatly appreciated. God bless brother.
Great video. One question though, can the compressor be used to fill a scuba tank? Or is the scuba tank too large for that? I'm trying to research pcp airguns as I'd love to get one someday.
That pumpb is a bit small. Send me an email, and I'll give you info on the compressor I have been using for years to top-off my tanks. Info@airgundetectives.com 👍🏻
Great Job JC. very informative for new PCP buyers. JSYK it looks like the Discount Code has changed already. LOL They have the new one listed on their website.
I will have to update that...Happy Shooting!
@@AirgunDetectives Just kidding Buddy! My light sarcasm doesn't come over well in comments. sorry!
Excellent review 👏👌
Thank Jesse! I appreciate you watching 👍🏻
I have an EGAL CLAW LEVER ACTION GUN when I follow your direction on filling the gun, of bleeding the pressure out of the fill line ------all the are comes out of the gun, I called the seller and he told me to just let the air out of the line faster to make the air not come back out, is that right ? I though you just turned the bleed valve open and let the air out of the line, then just disconnect the hose.------------- I'm confused
I have asked this same question on several forums on RUclips never get an answer ?????????????
Very simple...when you get to the full level on your gun, turn the pump off, open the bleeder valve, and remove the filler hose. You'll still let the pump's fan work for a few minutes to cool down the pump. I hope that gives you some clarification 👍🏻
So helpful thank you sir.
I wonder if that compressor can fill a scuba tank
Not designed for breathable air.
Thank you so much Sir 🎉
Hi JC GREAT video!
Do you use anything to remove moisture as you fill the pcp?
I didn't see anything in the video so I'm curious???
Actually, those pumps have foam filter inserts. I change them out each day I use the pump. I let them dry out, and I'll use them a 2nd time. Thanks for tuning in 👍🏻😉
Had the smaco for a year and no issues. How’s your smaco holding up?
Why does it say “dry air” what is that?
Is this one better than the airventuri rovair?
Why not talk about filling multiple bottles and swap them out ?
Price ?
I’m new?
You're wrong about the date. Girandoni air rifles were first produced in 1779, but they were not the first precharged air guns and others seem to have been around several decades earlier. The first known air rifle dates to 1580, but that was not a PCP.
Jc were is the link for the compressor .Does it come with a 110 cord ? thanks for the review 😎👍🏻
Yes Peter, it has everything you need...and the link is in the description portion of the video.
@@AirgunDetectives I did not see it when I looked thanks JC
new here, great video! just a question, could you make a video refilling a pcp rifle with a detachable air tank? or does it essentially work the same ... i was just curious how the air tank can be unscrewed with tons of air in it! plz k thnx
My vote goes to mini compressor:) booo hand pump but it’s nice as a backup for sure.
I was told I should use a compressor for the first time
Something about a seal
And also told not to use a “scuba tank “
I’m not sure if that’s a expression or ?????
Why do you have to purge the line
Why not leave the scuba tank strait connecting…. Get the power!….?
Thank you Sir!
Like 70, highly instuctive video, regards!!
Thanks for the visit!
I didn't see the discount for the electric air compressor.
It should be in the description box. I will update it if necessary👍🏻
It doesn’t seem the discount is still active on the SMACO website.
How long would it take to fill a 3000 psi scuba tank with the 110 air compressor?
I wouldn't do it. Those little air-cooled compressors are good for filling the rifles. The tanks have too much volume, and you would need a larger compressor. 😉👍🏻
forever
I would be much more gray by the time you could fill a tank. There are some larger compressors that you can keep the 200 bar tanks topped off. These smaller ones are designed to refill the guns themselves. 😉👍🏻
Please provide the nomenclature for the air hose extension, AND possible sources for purchase.
Many thanks!
Hose Extension amzn.to/3YX1Hju
Happy Shooting!
@@AirgunDetectives Umm, no, it brought me to a no longer available chrono, please try again, with thanks!
Hello. What is the possibility of buying a separate 12V battery instead of using the car battery to charge my PCP rifle. I have a new GX pump I bought on Amazon. Harbor Freight has 12Volt batteries for under $50.00. What are the requirements for the 12Volt battery to basically run the GX compressor?
I NEED HELP!!!!! I just bought a new Stoeger XM 1 and it had some air in it and I shoot it all out. Yeah I am a newbie. I have a pump but I have pumped for 30 min. and the needle on the gauge doesn't move. I can hear air going through the pump and the rifle came half charged. I don't know what I am doing wrong, or does it take an hour of pumping when the tank on the gun is empty?
Probably gonna have to take it to a airgun shop or contact the company I'm pretty new to airguns but the only thing I can think of is something is wrong with your pump or the airtank what pump are you using?
The gun im looking to buy is a Hatsan Flash QE in .25 and it has a 165cc tank. Would it be wise to go cheap and save money and get a hand pump or spend the extra on a whole system.
im planning on buying a pcp gun whats the best portable hand pump to buy for theses?
Can I leave the diving cylinder attached to the gun during the shooting period if its pressure is lower than the pressure of the gun
Yes, but whatever is the pressure in your diving tank will be the same pressure in your rifles tank.
I'd like to know that to... I rember back in the day at the fair the carnies with the full auto bb guns that connected directly.
Weres your filter
Thanks for the video!
Before I saw your recommendation of the Smaco, I purchased an Air Venturi Nomad II. It seems very similar and works well so far; but, it clearly states that it cannot fill the external tanks - neither scuba nor carbon fiber. Is this Smaco capable of that? If not, do you have a personal recommendation for a compressor that can fill these external tanks at home?
Thanks again for making the videos!
-Dan
Dan, shoot me an email and I will give you some information. Info@airgundetectives.com
Thanks. Will-do.
I always want to know what happen if I forget to release the valve before I pull the cable out after filling
I've done that very thing, the rifle started to leak air quickly from the filling port, I quickly fitted the adapter and pumped it back to 200bar, this must have re-seated the interal valve, as it held pressure when I released the air correctly at the pump.
I even wrote a warning instruction to myself on the pump to avoid making the same mistake 😊 had this pump over 20 years.
Nice video!
I really like that Smaco. Seen a re iew of it just a short while back. Seems way good. Would definitely concider a Smaco if out to buy a compressor for myself. And then I'd absolutely get an extrnsion hose also.
I was impressed with the little unit. The more PCP's become popular, the more companies will come out with pumps, which benefits the consumer. 👍🏻😉
@@AirgunDetectives So true. Nice to see there's several on the market to choose from.
@@brorjordas1979 I have another one I just came across. I will feature it in an upcoming video along with the PCP rifle review.
@@AirgunDetectives Nice! Will be waiting for that!😊👍🏻
Always interested to see what's out there. If I'd ever actually need a real compressor of my own. I've just been watching around for a new PCP rifle - something a bit more accurate and powerful than the Sig Virtus. Concidering lately a Walther Reign or a Hatsan Bullboss. The Hatsan kinda been winning because of it's price (around €600, - while the Reign being at about €950)..
Do you fill it into the red on the gauge?
I'm curious why something says fill to 3500lbs then the 3500 is in the read.
Depends on the rifle. You fill to the manufacturer instructions for that specific rifle. Usually the red area is your caution point to stop filling.
I knew a pcp was going to be problematic when I put my lips to the nipple and tried to inflate it like an inner tube. Took me almost an hour and a half of blowing but I finally got her aired up 😉 😂. Would of been nice to see that method used considering it’s the most cost effective.
So .. what are you doing this weekend? Lol!
😂😂😂
Farting is the equivalent of airing up with helium. Usually a nacho supreme, 2 bean burritos, and a Mexican pizza will do it. You gotta eat any way, so it’s fairly cost effective. You should use some kind of filter just in case though.
Excuse me wtf
You married
could a guy use a normal garage air compressor
nope they are way to weak
JC. with the right adapter hose setup can't you use the compressor too fill up the scuba tanks..??? So much faster in the field.. Please let me know. Thanks !
Those little no water no oil compressors aren't meant for that kind of work load the motor isn't big enough to stand the wear and tear, for the one I bought it's 30 minutes of run time 10 min rest with fan on. Scuba tanks require large industrial type compressors.
4500 psi takes 20 minutes on my compressor to charge its. It’s a long time to hear that racket
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best buy compressor £170 bargain water cooled, bolox to using a pump, mine probably will not not used twice
First pcp came in europe mid 1700s 😏
Just like the first personal submarines.
i would not trust carbon fibre with high pressure.......
I am about to find out. I just received a DOT approved carbon fiber tank. I will have it pressure tested before I fill it.👍🏻
why not? theyve been used safely for various things for years.
That little filter is really enough to not get oil or water in your gun??