BEGINNERS NOTE: You can only fill your rifle up to the pressure available in your refill cylinder, i.e. if your refill cylinder is at 190 bar then you can only fill your rifle to 190 bar. If you want to fill higher you need to get your refill cylinder charged. A max charge for your refill cylinder will be 300 bar. Never fill your rifle to a pressure higher than stated on the rifle's cylinder or in the owners manual!
Hello My friend, I didn't know about keeping the bleed screw loose, either. It's something I never thought about and never heard mentioned. However, it makes perfect sense, and I do do that now. Thank you.
Great video, very well presented, one of the best on RUclips. Very interesting and informative. I'm working through your videos as I recently found you, so thanks 👍👍
Amazing video as always call me thick but I didn’t know you could check the pressure in your cylinder with that blanking plug 😳 I think everyone who uses a PCP should watch this video there is always something to learn , Massive big Thank You 👍
Brilliant video Jeff... Very educational and informative..with loads of good tips...alll i needed to know and on my phone,👍👍😀😀 i haven't seen a video like that before... Also haven't went down compressor dive botte route yet...but if do i willl be watching this video a few times more,, think i mentioned I got an Air Arms S410, the older version with no safety catch..it was in great condition and was £ 450...👍👍👍😀 Im the Airforce One Eco pump with changeable filters... Its take me around 15 minutes from 90-100 bar to 200 bar... On the filling dial its says it goes to 250 bar....but i watched your video... And 200 bar is a safe place to be... I get about 100 -110 very good accurate shots before the drop of at 30 meters... 😂 So thanks for explaining things I wasn't sure about a few things.. and i liked your Navy diving story that was very cool... Until next time, take and happy shooting 👍🤟✌️
Very informative. I've just started air rifle shooting and going through some of your vlogs, sometimes it feels like information over load not your content but generally. 😅
This was *super* useful. I am a total newb, so I had no idea what to do other than that I needed to move compressed air from one place to another lol! I have the same compressor as you and, even though I am in the US, I ordered the NRV from Best in UK, because it was actually less expensive than the same thing here, even after shipping (small enough that shipping wasn't too bad).
I usually leave in a minute or two before topping up. It gives the cylinder on the rifle chance to cool down, so I can top it up once it has. It is amazing, it can drop a few pounds, if you leave it to stand. Obviously that is if you want a full top up.
@@hftshooter don't matter ,start doing it on every use or get a shorter lead lol problem when you have done a PAT corse and you being an ex fireman should know better 😉😆
Good video. Got me thinking about Compressed Gas warning labels. Should I have them for the house and garage too? (Air in the house, MIG gas in the garage.)
Well that's a good point. I would say that compressed gas cylinders are more likely found in the home than a car, LPG for heating and BBQ or welding gas. I guess it depends on you? 👍
Very informative for the newbies. Is there any particular reason you don't use coolant rather than straight water? I also blow the water out of the compressor unit once finished. Had my compressor a fair few years now, with a set up like yours and using pretty much the same method. Keeping the working temp on the compressor also reduces the chance of the piston/rings getting damaged too. Good video.
Hello, my friend, Thank you for another great, informative video. I don't know if this will be of any help? Someone only today advised me that it's a good idea to cock your pcp before you charge it up. Then, with the cocking lever/barrel/bolt pulled right back, pull the trigger, you can then de-cock your air rifle, leaving it uncocked, but ready to use. You must have your cocking lever/barrel/bolt pulled right back and under tension when you pull the trigger or damage can occur. I didn't know that it's not a good idea to charge your pcp when it isn't cocked. Your Navy days brought memories back for me. I used to scuba dive a long time ago, but not for long. I had a couple of hair-raising moments and decided to call it quits! I couldn't see the point in having an open water certificate to pass when some people didn't follow the safety rules. Other safety rules were broken, too, and I decided it wasn't for me. Thank you for your instruction.
Hi Ian, that's a good point. I know that if you let all the air out and Air Arms they need to be cocked to charge from empty. I don't know about other brands. Certainly I've not found the need to cock my rifles for a normal top up. Here what you say about the diving. After the navy I went the PADI route. Me and the wife dived for many years. Occasionally I had to buddy with a stranger; some were good divers, others were idiots and dangerous.
@hftshooter Hello My friend, Thank you for your reply, it's nice to hear from you. I was a little nervy with my original message and wondered if what I had printed made sense or if I had missed something blatantly obvious, leaving me to look silly? I always attempt to be positive with my comments and for them to make sense and be helpful. I have seen at various times, people cock their pcp's before filling, though didn't know the science behind it. Not a great knowledge on pcp's, I wondered if they were attempting to fill their regulator section at the same time as their bottle fill, giving the rifle an extra shot or preserving/looking after the internals the best way they could. Diving was always something I fancied having a go at, though I certainly wasn't a natural. I heard some unfortunate stories and met some nice people, but some impatient, self-centred people too. There are so many things that can go wrong, and I decided it wasn't the environment for me. I passed my open water certificate and experienced diving, though I struggled with the pressures and equalizing my ears, and I don't miss it at all, all things considered. Thank you.
Many thanks for the video. I get my tank filled by a diving company and always thought that getting my own compressor would be expensive and take up a lot of space. Could you let us know the make and model please?
hello , if i take my bottle to a dive shop for a refill can i leave the whip on please? ive just ordered a 7 litre 300 bbar bottke so will need to get it filled. never used one before.very interesting video.
Thanks. I'm not doubting you in the slightest, but what is the reasoning behind storing the cylinder upright? I have the same foam anti roll straps and have been storing mine horizontally on the grounds it can't fall over. Thanks, Owen S.
I worked in an oil refinery where there were lots of BA cylinders and always stored on their side. At 11 mins you say for £35 quid you've nothing to lose except your head that is. Don't scrimp on high pressure gas, it's a bomb.
Hi Owen, all the cylinder safety guidance says the same, but that's all cylinders including LPG where the gas sits on top of the liquid. I guess with compressed air any moisture will be kept away from the valve group.
Hi great video, very informative. Can i ask a question, is it possible to fill a 3 Litre tank with a 12 litre tank or is this not possible. Im a newbie and trying to work out the best possible solution to keeping my 3l full in the most economical way. Or should i buy a small compressor and just keep the 3l tank full. Thanks for and information 😊
Yes, it is possible if you have the right connectors. However, you will probably only be able to do it a few times before the 12 litre needs refilling. Every time you decant the pressure will equalise in each cylinder so you may find you have too low a pressure in the 3 litre for a good rifle fill. I'm sure there must be a calculator online somewhere that can work out the figures for you.
Im using the same non return valve but for some reason it only allows air towards the arrows and it will prevent air ALONG the arrows..dont know whats goin on with it.
Sounds like it's been put together wrong. I would unscrew it and put everything right. However, if it's working in the wrong direction, as long as you know just keep on using it that way. 🙂👍
Such an excellent informative video, and well worth watching for anyone with pcp’s. Can I ask where you purchased the brass coloured filters with the extra thick walls please. Thank you.
BEGINNERS NOTE: You can only fill your rifle up to the pressure available in your refill cylinder, i.e. if your refill cylinder is at 190 bar then you can only fill your rifle to 190 bar. If you want to fill higher you need to get your refill cylinder charged. A max charge for your refill cylinder will be 300 bar. Never fill your rifle to a pressure higher than stated on the rifle's cylinder or in the owners manual!
I didn't know to keep the bleed valve open when filling is complete and done and not in use .
Hello My friend,
I didn't know about keeping the bleed screw loose, either.
It's something I never thought about and never heard mentioned. However, it makes perfect sense, and I do do that now. Thank you.
That’s a very good explanation. Wish this had been around when I first started shooting PCPs. A real must for beginners, well done 🙏
Thanks Nick. 😀👍
Great video, very well presented, one of the best on RUclips. Very interesting and informative. I'm working through your videos as I recently found you, so thanks 👍👍
Much appreciated! 🙂👍
Amazing video as always call me thick but I didn’t know you could check the pressure in your cylinder with that blanking plug 😳 I think everyone who uses a PCP should watch this video there is always something to learn , Massive big Thank You 👍
Glad to help. 😀👍
👍 brilliant really interesting. As a springer shooter that was all new to me👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks. 😀👍
Good to see that compressor in operation. Never had a need as Air Service company near by but you have pricked my interest. 🙂
It was definitely a good buy and still going strong.
Best video ive seen of set up and process. Thank you
Wow, thanks! 😀👍
Very new to the sport . Great help. Thanks
No problem 👍
Great video mate, thanks. Have a good one 👍🇦🇺
Thanks 👍
Brilliant video Jeff... Very educational and informative..with loads of good tips...alll i needed to know and on my phone,👍👍😀😀 i haven't seen a video like that before... Also haven't went down compressor dive botte route yet...but if do i willl be watching this video a few times more,, think i mentioned I got an Air Arms S410, the older version with no safety catch..it was in great condition and was £ 450...👍👍👍😀 Im the Airforce One Eco pump with changeable filters... Its take me around 15 minutes from 90-100 bar to 200 bar... On the filling dial its says it goes to 250 bar....but i watched your video... And 200 bar is a safe place to be... I get about 100 -110 very good accurate shots before the drop of at 30 meters... 😂 So thanks for explaining things I wasn't sure about a few things.. and i liked your Navy diving story that was very cool... Until next time, take and happy shooting 👍🤟✌️
Hi Johnny thanks for your kind comments, glad you found it useful. 😀👍
Great video, thanks for the upload 👍
No problem 👍
Very informative. I've just started air rifle shooting and going through some of your vlogs, sometimes it feels like information over load not your content but generally. 😅
Can feel like a steep learning curve at times. Thanks for watching. 🙂👍
This was *super* useful. I am a total newb, so I had no idea what to do other than that I needed to move compressed air from one place to another lol! I have the same compressor as you and, even though I am in the US, I ordered the NRV from Best in UK, because it was actually less expensive than the same thing here, even after shipping (small enough that shipping wasn't too bad).
Glad it helped! 🙂👍
Great video thank you. Are the blanking plugs a universal size?
Yes, they should be! 🙂👍
I have the same compressor its been spot on, payed a bit more for it than you did yours, you got a bargain lol, good video thumbs up.
Thanks 👍
Good useful video mate, thank you... 8-)
No problem 🙂👍
I usually leave in a minute or two before topping up. It gives the cylinder on the rifle chance to cool down, so I can top it up once it has. It is amazing, it can drop a few pounds, if you leave it to stand. Obviously that is if you want a full top up.
Good point Steve, and the slower you charge the less heat is created so it will settle quicker. 🙂
You also need to unwind your extension lead fully ,this will act as a coil and over heat and especially if that's a 20 - or 30 - or 50m one 😉
I hear you! 🙂👍 In my defence I'm not putting much current through it. 😁
@@hftshooter don't matter ,start doing it on every use or get a shorter lead lol problem when you have done a PAT corse and you being an ex fireman should know better 😉😆
Looking at the extension reel it should state the max amps for the reel fully wound up
Good video. Got me thinking about Compressed Gas warning labels. Should I have them for the house and garage too? (Air in the house, MIG gas in the garage.)
Well that's a good point. I would say that compressed gas cylinders are more likely found in the home than a car, LPG for heating and BBQ or welding gas. I guess it depends on you? 👍
Very informative for the newbies. Is there any particular reason you don't use coolant rather than straight water? I also blow the water out of the compressor unit once finished. Had my compressor a fair few years now, with a set up like yours and using pretty much the same method. Keeping the working temp on the compressor also reduces the chance of the piston/rings getting damaged too. Good video.
Thanks. I hadn't thought about using coolant, but water is immediately available. I always leave everything out to dry out properly after use. 🙂👍
Hello, my friend,
Thank you for another great, informative video.
I don't know if this will be of any help?
Someone only today advised me that it's a good idea to cock your pcp before you charge it up. Then, with the cocking lever/barrel/bolt pulled right back, pull the trigger, you can then de-cock your air rifle, leaving it uncocked, but ready to use. You must have your cocking lever/barrel/bolt pulled right back and under tension when you pull the trigger or damage can occur. I didn't know that it's not a good idea to charge your pcp when it isn't cocked.
Your Navy days brought memories back for me. I used to scuba dive a long time ago, but not for long.
I had a couple of hair-raising moments and decided to call it quits!
I couldn't see the point in having an open water certificate to pass when some people didn't follow the safety rules. Other safety rules were broken, too, and I decided it wasn't for me.
Thank you for your instruction.
Hi Ian, that's a good point. I know that if you let all the air out and Air Arms they need to be cocked to charge from empty. I don't know about other brands. Certainly I've not found the need to cock my rifles for a normal top up.
Here what you say about the diving. After the navy I went the PADI route. Me and the wife dived for many years. Occasionally I had to buddy with a stranger; some were good divers, others were idiots and dangerous.
@hftshooter
Hello My friend,
Thank you for your reply, it's nice to hear from you. I was a little nervy with my original message and wondered if what I had printed made sense or if I had missed something blatantly obvious, leaving me to look silly? I always attempt to be positive with my comments and for them to make sense and be helpful.
I have seen at various times, people cock their pcp's before filling, though didn't know the science behind it. Not a great knowledge on pcp's, I wondered if they were attempting to fill their regulator section at the same time as their bottle fill, giving the rifle an extra shot or preserving/looking after the internals the best way they could.
Diving was always something I fancied having a go at, though I certainly wasn't a natural.
I heard some unfortunate stories and met some nice people, but some impatient, self-centred people too. There are so many things that can go wrong, and I decided it wasn't the environment for me. I passed my open water certificate and experienced diving, though I struggled with the pressures and equalizing my ears, and I don't miss it at all, all things considered.
Thank you.
Many thanks for the video. I get my tank filled by a diving company and always thought that getting my own compressor would be expensive and take up a lot of space. Could you let us know the make and model please?
If you Google "warrior pcp compressor" you should find it. 🙂👍
hello , if i take my bottle to a dive shop for a refill can i leave the whip on please? ive just ordered a 7 litre 300 bbar bottke so will need to get it filled. never used one before.very interesting video.
I would suggest you remove the whip and valve for safe keeping as they will have to remove these to fill the cylinder.
@@hftshooter thanks for reply!
Thanks. I'm not doubting you in the slightest, but what is the reasoning behind storing the cylinder upright? I have the same foam anti roll straps and have been storing mine horizontally on the grounds it can't fall over. Thanks, Owen S.
I worked in an oil refinery where there were lots of BA cylinders and always stored on their side.
At 11 mins you say for £35 quid you've nothing to lose except your head that is. Don't scrimp on high pressure gas, it's a bomb.
Hi Owen, all the cylinder safety guidance says the same, but that's all cylinders including LPG where the gas sits on top of the liquid. I guess with compressed air any moisture will be kept away from the valve group.
@@hftshooter Appreciated, thanks.
Good informative video on the correct way to handle h.p.a!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎😎😎
Hi great video, very informative. Can i ask a question, is it possible to fill a 3 Litre tank with a 12 litre tank or is this not possible.
Im a newbie and trying to work out the best possible solution to keeping my 3l full in the most economical way.
Or should i buy a small compressor and just keep the 3l tank full.
Thanks for and information 😊
Yes, it is possible if you have the right connectors. However, you will probably only be able to do it a few times before the 12 litre needs refilling. Every time you decant the pressure will equalise in each cylinder so you may find you have too low a pressure in the 3 litre for a good rifle fill. I'm sure there must be a calculator online somewhere that can work out the figures for you.
Im using the same non return valve but for some reason it only allows air towards the arrows and it will prevent air ALONG the arrows..dont know whats goin on with it.
Sounds like it's been put together wrong. I would unscrew it and put everything right. However, if it's working in the wrong direction, as long as you know just keep on using it that way. 🙂👍
I dropped alittle silicone oil in it seems to work now. Thanks for the video btw very helpful.
What Hawke site are you using
I think the scope in that video is the Hawke Touch compact zero eye relief scope.
10 seconds in and i count 5 holes in the wall.
This gonna be a good one.
😂 Sorry to disappoint, those are blutac marks from posters!
@@hftshooter Dont worry my friend i wont tell on you 😇
P.s. I learned alot since i started watching your videos. And i dont even own a pcp yet 🤣
I use a hills pump less fuss and its not that hard and im 67.
I've heard differing views on how much effort it takes. I've never used one myself, but I guess if you do regular top ups it must be easier. 🙂👍
Such an excellent informative video, and well worth watching for anyone with pcp’s. Can I ask where you purchased the brass coloured filters with the extra thick walls please. Thank you.
Thanks. The smaller one came with the compressor and I think I must have bought the longer one from eBay.
@@hftshooter
Thank you for the reply. I’ll check that out. 👍👍
i think the 52deg warning on these is a bit over done. these things on worn on firemens backs in fires!
To be fair I think this is general for all cylinders not just air. I wouldn't want to warm an acetylene cylinder beyond that.