Is This Still The BEST Budget Gaming PC?
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Is buying an old Dell Optiplex and pairing it with a used graphics card still the best price to performance gaming option?
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For those of you thinking about going a route like this, using Sata to 8 Pin power adapters for the graphics card is a dodgy long term solution. Even with a lowish TDP card like the GTX 960. You can get a 24pin to 8 Pin adapter for the motherboard, so you can upgrade the powersupply.
What would you say is the best avenue for selling pc's? I build them for a hobby, and I can make a really damn good pc that's not only beautiful, but rocks most games, yet sits for days sometimes a couple weeks before people buy them.
hey at least that system is back from the days when you could do something like that. Try that with a modern one from Dell/HP/etc and you'd be stuck with whatever proprietary attempt at a knockoff 12VO they decided to pull from the bowels of hell on that particular day
Edit for clarity: talking about getting a 24pin to 8 pin adapter
@@jeffschultz1338 Where are you selling them? I had pretty good luck on Facebook marketplace. Also, what are you selling them for? I usually priced my lower-end builds at $50 above what it cost me and higher-end builds at $100 above what it cost me. New PCs are easier to sell for a profit than used PCs. People want a good deal on used items, not market price. I also did custom builds more often than pre-built systems, and working with a person like that made them a lot more comfortable and made them feel like they were getting a good deal - I was able to explain the price-to-performance of different parts, and give them something that does what it needs to do and looks the way they want it to, all within their price range.
also be careful which psu you buy, some are to long and end up bumping into that black piece at the top of the case.
You can also remove the hard drive cage with a drill and get a bigger gpu to fit in without blockage (I ended up using double sided tape and sticking my ssd to the inside of the pc somewhere, ugly but nobody is looking inside anyways).
this dude did it on a precision optiplex but the process is the exact same as it would be on one of these.
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@masonzero digital i tried posting all the spec of the current build, but youtube keeps deleting it. I changed my profile photo to show the current build I have for sale.
"This is a PC from 1752" - i know that statement was a hyperbole, but i'd like to imagine that literally happening in colonial times where everyone was pc gaming on a dell optiplex
They'd probably be playing Farm Simulator 51 but it only has 16 pixels
I literally see someone on Newegg is selling a Radeon 7000 64mb...for $150. I checked and yes, it's the card from...2001. Would be great for an Optiplex-based "vintage" setup.
@@soupwizard I would say playing oregon trail
"Remember the heroes of 1776, when they clapped the cheeks of the redcoats at the battle of Tilted Towers!"
Lmamo
For a kid under 12 wanting to start gaming on Fortnite or Minecraft, this is a great option. I often point parents this way rather than buying dirty over priced pre-builts from big stores.
Yeah stores like Best Buy know how to market to parents with "Gaming" on everything lol.
@@Timmycoo Nowadays, You can build an APU system that'll play most everything at low/mid settings at 1080p for like $550-600 that's fully upgradable with a dedicated GPU whenever the shortage isn't nuts.
It's funny how the "gaming" prebuilts are total over priced garbage considering the budget yet these old "office" prebuilts make great gaming machines. I buy/sell locally PC parts and will pair up a PC from extra parts for resale when possible. I have sold 3-4 of the machines in this video since lock down. All new gamers who were happy to spend around $150 on a machine to play a lower demanding game (minecraft/zoo tycoon/E sports stuff) but still get their feet into the PC gaming area.
You dont look under 12 in your pic Paul :)
@@antonybaker it's probably some parent or a big sibling
I have to admit that people in 1752 did a really good job building this
1752 was a great vintage for office PC's.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff the peak of Dell optiplex systems
I was apparently born during the roman times since my first PC was a compaq 386....
@@Nilboggen It is still more modern than commodore 64, turbografx 16 or apple II
@@mruczyslaw50 well yeah... I'm not a caveman lol
Please give this visibility. DANGER!
SATA is rated for 54 watts. After that the connector starts to melt. It is imperative to check how much the graphics card pulls over the 8 pin if you decide to use that cable.
It's Dawid does tech we want the computer to explode in use
It doesn't melt immediately. It gets hot first, but using an 8 Pin with Sata is just asking for fire.
Quick Math would say 85W, if its evenly split over the two connectors then your fine.
@@capsikseason It uses proprietary connectors how was he supposed to buy a new PSU. Unless Dell offers a higher wattage option he would have to buy one and rewire the connectors if that's even possible.
1050ti would be better for this build 75w but you could replace the PSU and convert the ATX to dell 8 pin
"Tom Clancy's siege R6 rainbow"
Ah yes that game with random words as a name 😂
I can say first hand, the system will SEEM like it can handle it but over time the 8 pin motherboard connector will get really really really hot and start to melt. Ask me how I know, i had to get a 24 pin to 8 pin adapter so i could use a good psu in my pc
Please give this visibility. DANGER!
SATA is rated for 54 watts. After that the connector starts to melt. It is imperative to check how much the graphics card pulls over the 8 pin if you decide to use that cable.
yep fortunately there is the 24pin to dell 8 pin for the haswell era systems from Dell. The cable adaptor runs about 10 cad
@@pauldoutre541 rly??? The cheapest one I could find was 12 dollars usd
Yeah, I had the same problem recently. I chose to use 2 PSUs at the same time and ordered a motherboard, instead of the converter.
I did this with an Opti 7020 tower - I knew going in I was going to need a PSU, so I ordered it, the 24-to-8 adapter, and a proper GPU more or less matched to the i7 CPU the system came with. It's been a great PC for me and unless you need Cyberpunk 2077 in Ultra, it's a worthwhile option still!
Recently gifted my brother an Optiplex I got off ebay for $100 USD. I removed the HDD cage and added a 5.25 to 3.5 adaptor to move the HDD and a SSD to replace the DVD drive. Also gifted my old gtx 1060 6gb along with a 650w power supply. Just need an adaptor to reduce the 24 pin to fit that 8 pin. He also added a 140mm fan to the front. Runs well for older parts.
You’re a good brother
@@AnnaDoes indeed he is
absolute beast of a pc
what is the specs of the pc?
@@mohamedmostafa-qj5mx id almost bet money its a i7 4c8t with 16gb ddr3 1600mhz
I love this. Buying used means less e-waste, you don't waste your money on Amazon garbage and you still get to game with decent performance :D
Also the scammers dont profit
dawid does anna
So Dawid's prebuilt addiction grew on you too :D
Here is the 1st GEN 2 core Intel CPU i3-530 runs GTA5 and SOTTR~~
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@@Kzxhy Dawid does your mom on Anna
How that PSU managed to not explode is a mystery to me, good job Dell circa 1752
"They sell for like a kidney and a quick handie in the parking lot." Lmfao you had me dying!
But forreal, I remember when I started following you when you had like 5k subs. You've had such huge amounts of success. I'm glad to see it!
Hahajajjajajajajaj yeah that was funny and sus
Hey thats almost the same config I've been running since 2019, except my 960 it's the 4gb model, plus I've upgraded from an i5 2500k to a r5 1600. Being a guy with not a lot of cash in Brazil this config is actually ok, runs everything i trow at it (currently playing outriders) and its a blessing in a country in the financial situation we're in.
Ah yes... a fellow outrider
How much of a difference does the 4 GB make? It should be plenty for the card I guess?
@@HappyBeezerStudios depends on who you ask, I've seen some people say it doesn't make a difference, the card is too weak for it to be noticeable. Now in my experience, if a game is light to run or you put it on low textures it performs the same 2 or 4gb. Almost all the games released recently require 4gb minimum (now even 6 seems to have become the base) , and in this situation it makes a big difference since the 2gb card dont have enough vram so it dumps off or trades data with regular ram more often, causing stuttering or lower fps. At the time (2019) I bought mine in aliexprees it was like a 10 dollar difference from 2 to 4 so I got the 4gb model, but it was more luck than knowledge or anything like that.
Still the setup i recommend for parents looking to get their kids a cheap gaming PC.
Most of the multiplayer games popular with kids, run great on this type a setup.
This is how I got me and my son started. Dell 7010 sff i5 with a 1050ti and ssd. $240ea for great 1080 gaming.
@@billygilbert7911 I wouldn't even go for SFF, as they tend to not support full height cards, and low profile cards tend to be more expensive than their big versions for that exact reason. Same with SFF power supplies.
Sure they're bigger, but that also allows for more options in upgrading.
@@HappyBeezerStudios At the time I could only get my hands on 2 SFF 7k series. I would have preferred a larger unit.
where is your hearted comment
Me, watching the video "Hmm, everything is fairly normal, this doesn't look like a Dawid video!"
4:45 Dawid: But I got this and that's how we're gonna make that GPU work! Hope the PSU can handle it!
*_Grabs popcorn_*
Me too, I paused the video and did the math, it checks out so no magic smoke
Believe it or not, but I also did the math before trying it out. 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff honestly I was more worried about the adaptor not being a cheap one and melting by short circuit or something... Otherwise you could attach a fan to it as usual.
I got an old office pc, dropped a gtx 960 4gb strix in there, Corsair 220t, tx650m PSU, 16gb vengeance RGB pro 3600mhz ram, MSI b550 and a ryzen 5 3600. I also just put a crucial 1tb nvme in there. Basically, I took an old office pc, gradually put it in the bin, and started from scratch.
Great vid Dawid! Encouraging to look at some older hardware for some builds.
I had like 8 of these things at my old job at one point lol they make FANTASTIC servers. Quiet, low power consumption, upgradable PSU, turns on by itself after AC loss, space for up to four drives plus SSD, and you can throw in a Core i7 for extra threads. I still have two at home for projects. You can even use it with macOS Catalina! It's the best pre-built ever, hands down.
I got 3 dell optiplexes a year or so ago with hdd and fully working gt 720 gpu and 8gb ram for 10gbp each. Now one is used as a retro gaming center. One was made as a mini arcade and given to a friend and one was turned into a simple home computor for the dearest mum who still uses it to this day for craftwork. Sometimes old and simple stuff still serves a purpose 👍
Dawid, with your extraordinary similies, you are the Jeremy Clarkson of the budget gaming PC world.
Except Dawid isn't a complete nob.
@@buggerlugz6753 🤣 love it
@@buggerlugz6753 True. Although, I wasn't comparing his personality to JC. I was comparing his use of hyperbolic similies.
Thank you for the video. I love reviving old desktop computers and converting them to gaming PCs. Few years ago, was the i5 2400 then now 4th gen , then will be 6th gen systems.
I'd put one of those together just to putter around on, and the fact it won't run Windows 11 is a BONUS. SCREW WINDOWS 11!
Yeah windows 11 sucks. I have a supported cpu (8700K) and this operating system just straight up sucks (at least as of currently)
Id just dualboot with linux
yay,no more update to windows 11,guess im gonna bought this pc :D
@@ZygardeCruiser gonna bought? Eh?
@@MrDeadmanwalken1 maybe
Great video. I managed a Dell Optiplex 9020 SFF + GTX 1650 LP for $300 AUD. It featured a i7 4770. A great budget build especially considering that the GPU runs off the PCIE slot only and it's whisper quiet. Highly recommended for all ages!
Awesome! That's a great deal. Glad you could get your hands on a GTX 1650 without having to pay too much for it.
How did you get GTX 1650 LP into 9020 SFF? Is the GPU one slot wide? On 9020 SFF the 16x slot is on the LEFT when viewed from the front, so there is no room for a 2-slot card. Compare this to 9010 SFF, where the 16x slot is on the RIGHT when viewed from the front, so a 2-slot LP GPU can overhang the second slot. I am genuinely curious how you accomplished this. It is making me wonder if you have a 1-slot-wide GPU, or maybe it is actually an MT and not SFF? What am I missing?
Nevermind, I think I figured it out. Must have plugged into the x4 slot for about a 10% - 15% loss in performance. Still much, much better than no GPU at all. Nice.
I ran a 4590 with 960 until like 2018. Was a decent machine. It's nice seeing the combination live again.
i only subscribed a couple of weeks ago and is finding your content refreshing keep up the great work
The intel core i7 machines with these specs worked amazing. Cheap to find from an office sale and would often have 4 ram slots. I ran a 16GB version with a GTX 960. Ran all the games I wanted to play at the time way back in 2017. You can even swap the power supply easy.
one hundred bucks plus on eeebaay
Great video! 2 GB of VRAM is not a lot, but remember what is shown here is memory allocated by the game and not actual usage.. Many games allocate memory depending on what is available even if it not necessarily is needed
It's a losing battle... You will never educate tech youtubers about how computers work.
I have one of these Optiplex machines, mine has an i5 4690, but it has 4 DIMM slots... I dont think I've seen one with only 2 slots. I was lucky enough to get it pre GPU shortage and paired with a 1650 SUPER. Using NVENC and a capture card, phenomenal budget dedicated stream PC with OBS.
Also, if anybody goes this route, You can upgrade the PSU, there is an adapter for the PSU to plug into the janky proprietary plug on the MOBO available on Amazon
@Dawid Does Tech Stuff, it's worth mentioning that there are inexpensive ($10 US Dollars or less) adapters to allow for PSU upgrades for these systems on Amazon as well. This opens up a lot more GPU options like older, more power hungry generations that the stock 290w PSU couldn't support. Probably a wash if you are buying all the components since any money saved on the GPU front would go towards a more expensive PSU, but if you have the parts laying around its a worth-while endeavor & worth pointing out! Good stuff here.
I used to flip a lot of Optiplex budget gaming systems as a side hustle. I'd usually go with a 1050 Ti to avoid the PCIe power connector problem, put the SSD in the lower 5.25 bay (VHB tape is your friend) and give it 8gb of DDR3 1600 (Anything that would require more memory would also require more CPU and GPU.) If I was feeling saucy, I'd paint the gray mesh part of the front panel and put a matching LED fan up front, powered by a SATA to fan header adapter connected to the SATA power plug for the lower HDD bay. Great budget build for parents who don't have a pile of cash around Christmas time.
did you actually _make_ money doing that though? I guess maybe if you live in a densely populated area I can see how that might work, but just thinking about it myself, I know in my area I would just be sitting on stock for so long I'd end up having to sell at a loss to get it gone.
@@ram89572 I live in the DFW metroplex, so there's a pretty healthy second-hand market. The PC I described, I would mark up maybe $100 over the cost of parts, and let the buyer talk me down $50 (everyone likes to get a deal.) There are plenty of people around here who just want someone else to build a PC for them. I always tell people they could do it themselves cheaper, but most just don't trust themselves to do it. I do more custom builds too, with standard off-the-shelf parts. I just like to keep something available on the low end, so I can have any budget covered.
I enjoy seeing what creative solutions people can do for budget systems. Xeon cpus have been a fantastic option for Dell desktop's and other pre built OEM machine's. Windows 11 will work on older hardware unofficially but, I think it's better than letting a computer go to waste for current OS support
I don't want to be one of "those" guys. But Linux is making great strides if you find the right version. I'm not a savvy computer user and I'm at least able to browse the internet and play Steam games on it. Definitely breathes new life into old computers.
Love the channel your humour and the vids keep it up 😊👍
My son is running one of these with a 600W PSU and a GTX 1080 inside. Had to get an adapter for the PSU to motherboard but was well worth it for the flexibility in what we could put in there. Also had to saw out that bottom drive cage to fit the 1080 in there. But, hey, no such thing as too janky when there's no glass side panels to show it!
I ordered a PSU adapter off Amazon for one of my optiplex systems. Used a standard PSU with no issues.
THIS is the future of "PC gaming" people! What a time to be alive!
laughs in 3rd gen i5 and 1060
@@HappyBeezerStudios laughs in Pentium D with Radeon HD 6350
@@emmettaarontr laughs in i3 3220 intel hd 2500😏
Laughs in i3 4010u 4 core @3.9ghz overclock with Intel hd4400 running 1080p 130fps on GTA 5 all max settungs
@@adzchi9557 Laughs in i3 3220 with Quadro P400
Loving the new studio!
I had walked friends down the path of an older office PC with a fresh GPU. After a complete system bricks or are just needing some sort of upgrade from what grandma bought them three years ago. You cover most of the limiting factors in the vid.
Another way to skin the cat, were cards like the 1050ti that could eat directly from the PCI-E slot.
Another limitation is RAM caps. System wouldn't recognize more than 4, 6 or 8 gigs.
Keep up the good work.
Despite the failings (proprietary connectors, power supplies, and motherboards), these little Dell (or HP or Lenovo) office machines are great. Many were ordered with i5s (nice balance of performance and cost), so they often have 4 actual cores. The quality of the components is usually quite good (businesses hate machines going down), so they should last fine. Parts are cheap. If you can live with the limitations, they're great for as a low end gaming machine or just a internet/video streaming/misc machine. I'd try to get something with at least a 4th gen Intel processor though since that's when USB 3.0 became mainstream. There are older machines with it, but that's when Intel put it in all their chipsets, so that's when common machines got it. Though some later Ivy Bridge (3rd Gen) chipsets do support USB 3 and motherboard manufacturers could always have a USB 3 chip somewhere, 4th gen (Haswell) is pretty much the first one guaranteed to have USB 3.0 and the difference in cost between the two is negligible at this point, so why not.
replace the crappy gt 710 with a gtx 745 lol
I've got a Optiplex SFF 7020 with an RX 6400 and a 4570. She runs everything I ask her to. Threw a WiFi card into the other PCie slot.
The 6400 gets some low-percent issues due to PCIe3, and the included mechanical hard drive is .... a mechanical hard drive.
But I have an SSD ready to install into it, so that's one problem solved, and the low-percents are generally tolerable, since I don't play online competitive games.
It's also so ADORABLE and densely packed! It gives me joy.
@@FerralVideo The SSD will help alot - so many perfectly fine computers are letdown by slow mechanical drives. Might even help with the low percent issues since they might not be PCIe related but instead related to slowdowns due to disk access. I saw one RUclipsr do a one component upgrade challenge and the disk surprisingly did make a difference. Also, beware that on the 7020 the x1 slot is PCIe gen2 (x16 slot is gen3).
But yeah, lovely little machines - great for HTPC or even a home server (biggest problem there is lack of room for lots of disks, but you don't always need that). They're compact, quiet, reliable, cheap to purchase, cheap to repair, and really quite capable. They're even pretty easy to work on, once you figure out where Dell put the different latches. Some of the later versions, like the 3050, even support M.2 drives.
The other fun form factor is the USFF (aka tiny or 1L PC). Dell, Lenovo, and HP make these. Very little expansion, unfortunately, but they're only about the size of a small stack of CD jewel cases. Some of them are really quite capable and even denser packed than the 7020. ServeTheHome has a good recurring feature on those.
Dell doesn't use that cooler anymore because HP bought all their stock.
Dell Executive - "hey guys I just found a way we can save money on all our systems and it will make no difference in the product"
Executive 2 - "ok I'm listening"
Exec 1 - "what if we cut out 60% of the material used in our cpu coolers"
Exec 2 - "brilliant! that will save us a whole 2.3 cents per unit"
Dell Engineer - "umm, but that will significantly impact performance under load so we can't rea...."
Big Time Exec - "well I'd say that's a done deal then. Excellent work at saving us some money team now can someone get that new good looking piece of ass from accounting to bring me some champagne"
The older Dell Optiplex 390 had non proprieteray connectors so you could swap power supplies. And nice fit on the graphics card bro.
I really love how you exaggerate with the date of the PC and stuff. I really enjoy that kinda humor. 😂
Good old FB Market was selling a "Computer" not far from me advertised for £30 but no hard drive, a picture of the inside looked promising so took the plunge, when i got it home found a i5 3570k, a decent ASUS motherboard that lets you over clock (4.1 stable, needs a better cooler as only the stock one), 8GB ram, a Seasonic 620watt PSU and a GTX 750ti, all for £30! Sometimes people don't know what they have! Case is garbage, but hey......One mans trash.......
Dude thats a steal for 30 quid!!
@@DualShockTree it really was!
Dawid, you can upgrade the power supply. Amazon sells a 24 to 8 pin converter. That way you can put a larger GPU. Also, you can upgrade that to an i7 for $50 or $60 USD
Is a 4 gb gtx 960 optimal on that type of build?
I worked IT for a major call center company up until this Spring, so seeing 3020s made my day. We must have sent close to 1000 off to recycling when we closed a center and I think a handful of 3040s are all the Dells left, at least in my area. We had upgraded to HPs, not because they were any better, it was a business relationship kind of things. I used to have great fun upgrading those Dells in the lab, as kind of a proof of concept/I'm bored and there are no tickets kinds of ways. It is nice to see that even a potato system like a 3020 can still hang.
I put together almost this exact build. With the i7 4790, 16Gb RAM, and a 1050Ti. Runs pretty much everything great at 1080 and was able to overclock the snot out of that 1050Ti. Thanks Dawid! Fun to watch someone else go through the same train of thought
I have almost the same but mine a i7 3770k
My "budget" option was: Ryzen 5 5600G. It was on sale at Canada Computers for 300 CAD, I managed to grab the only open box one in Ontario for 270, but I also had some points I was able to use towards the purchase, so I ended up paying only $ 250 CAD - which for me was the cheapest option to build a new PC without a GPU (since those are still very expensive), so that my daughter can play Minecraft and I have a fast, reliable SFF PC.(I built it in a Phanteks P200A)
"...a kidney and a quick hand job in the parking lot." Part of why he's one of my favorite tech channels.
You should add the frame time as a line graph to your Afterburner. It really helps to see if there's stuttering (especially the smaller ones).
Have done this myself as well but then with a 3rd gen I5 and a 1060 3GB maybe a bit of a bottleneck but had an amazing performance for the price especially back when the graphics card prices were cheaper. I used a molex to PCIe 6pin though but it was working fine. Absolutely recommended for people who are looking for a gaming system with a budget.
Woah, that OptiPlex is mint! Still has the plastic peel!
There's plenty of them out there.
It's better than what I thought it was going to be. Especially for how much money it cost.
I just got into this whole upgrading Optiplex thing recently and have done a 3050, 9010, 3010 and a 790 all of them get good framerate with the paired cards I sourced. These will make great first time gamer pc's for some almost teens out there. I have a trick on the 3010 and 9010 series to keep the latch system, you just need to notch the rear of the plastic catch so the PSU will slip through and it will still latch the side cover closed.
I rescued exactly the same model in a dumpster dive a month ago, ended up replacing the motherboard to an ASUS H81M-E M-atx motherboard instead of buying a psu-adapter (it uses the same cpu-socket as the original motherboard) and replaced with an atx-psu. Just subscribed to your channel Dawid. You're making great videos. :D
im still on my 3020, with a i5 4570 and a 550 ti. Im preparing to sell it though and build a completely new system when ryzen 6000 comes out, as the i5 in this pc just isnt anywhere near good enough for me because i do video editing and streaming, but if you are just gaming, dell optiplex pcs are really good budget computers
As someone with a 3570k I know your pain. Got a couple games where the chip just doesn't cut it. And unlike with a weaker GPU you can't just reduce settings to make it run.
I’m currently building a system for one of my children in one of these. The only gpu I could find is a gtx 1050. Not amazing, but it will run everything @ 1080p
Try to get a 960 if you can its better than the 1050
@@MannElite Oh, I’ve been trying ;)
Stick to the 1050. 960 is pretty much the same
Aw man should have held out a few more months, building a pc for a friend and found a gtx 1660 for 150 dollars! Granted it was the one in the dell g5, but I’ve been seeing other 1660 for a similar price
I started with the same Dell Optiplex and added a 500W PSU (along with the 24 to 8pin adapter) and a gtx 1050ti. I am an IT consultant and have accumulated a good number of Dells over the years and finally decided to build a gaming rig, and for now, I'm very satisfied with it.
What model optiplex is it?
@@izunauchiha1202 I think it was a 3020. looked just like the one in this video, had a 4th gen i5 in it. Ive upgraded since. I really don't recommend using those optiplexes unless you plan on keeping everything in the original dell case because I ran into all sorts of issues when trying to put that dell board in a different case.
G'day Dawid,
Here in Australia for a Dell/HP i5-2000/3000+8GB similar to this you will pay about $100-$200AUD, while you can sometimes find an M-ATX most are the SFF Case ones.
One of the main things I look for is the Mobo having 24pin Power, that way you can upgrade the PSU much easier, but you can also get an adapter cheap to suit these Mobos.
The Inwin Powerman 400W PSU that was in 'The Cheapest Amazon Pre-Built "Gaming" PC' video are great for these as they have the 2+2 Sata for ODD+Drive up the top & 2+2 Sata for the Bottom Font Storage & a 6pin PCIe & are only about $30-40AUD with a 6pin PCIe to 8pin PCIe adapter under $10AUD, or a Standard ATX 450/500W PSU for about $50-70AUD.
Only Trouble we have at the moment is people going Crazy with Bids on GPUs where even GTX750 go for over $100AUD 760/960 $150-200AUD & GTX1050/Ti or RX570 well over $200
Yes I still have my Dell optiplex 7010 with a 120gb SSD Rx 570 450w PSU i5 3570 and 8gb of ram and it runs pretty well the only game where I had to cap my fps so that I don't get random fps drops is bf1 but other than that I am quite happy with it
That was my first pc and I loved it, I would take that anyday especially over a console like ps and xbox
Dawid in 2032: "This Dell tower with an i9 10900k is a GREAT budget computer, it only has 10 cores & 20 threads.."
I had a optiplex 3010 I believe it had a i5 3470 8 gig ram and a 1650 oc in it. I did put in a 650 watt corsair psu, luckily the older 3rd gen boards have the 24 pin connector. Also got lucky and built that system right before all the knife fight battles for pc parts started.
You should look for the 7xxx Optiplex as they have 4 Dimm slots instead of the 2 found on the 3xxx Series. I used support about 200+ of these machines. They were pretty decent office machines.
1752, great year for Dell 👌
You truly should be a stand up comedian bro!
I paired a 1650 Super with an i5-2400 in a Dell Optiplex 990 with 16 GB of ram before the pandarama. It worked really well for my needs as a stopgap gaming PC, and my brother then used it for Rocket League and Rainbow 6 Siege as his first PC. The Dell I got only had PCIe 2.0, but the power connectors were standard ATX, so I was able to swap in a normal PSU.
Right now the Dell has been set back to stock after I upgraded my brother to an i7-4790S and a new case and cooler, and it is now getting an open box GT 1030 ddr5 to make the thing the most low budget gaming machine for cabin use.
A card I would of used with that system is a RX 550 4 GB. I have a XFX one and it works great with a lot of games and VR games and it uses the 75W in the PCIe x16 slot without issues.
To be honest,the GPU "shortage" is almost nonexistent now,its just miners and scalpers,and people who actually buy overpriced GPUs, are the problem now.
Heck,in my country, ddr4 ram and monitors are more rare than GPUs,yet GPUs are still priced well over 2 times their RRP
My gtx 1660 super was 250 Euro back in the middle of 2020 now its like 400 more
the shortage is very much still a thing...especially for people who want top tier components. even many retailers have been caught scalping on online markets making it even more difficult for people to get the parts they want.
the fact that GPUs are still twice MSRP means there's still a shortage. Perhaps the only reason you're seeing actual stock is because nobody's prepared to pay that stupid price tag.
Here is the 1st GEN 2 core Intel CPU i3-530 runs GTA5 and SOTTR~~
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@@rossclutterbuck1060 yea wait my gpu costs 700 euros more now WTF i paid 250 euros in 2020
What a complete Frankenbeast :D Budget gamers everywhere have a semi thinking about how viable it is.....
I have the PowerEdge T20 version of this system. Dell made a higher wattage PSU with a single 6 pin GPU cable for the Precision version. There's also a standard ATX to Dell 12VO adapter you can get off Amazon if you need even more power. I went with the Dell PSU because 12VO is super efficient.
For around a 10er you can easily get an adapter to put a standard power supply in there. Did that with a Dell Precision T1700... Xeon e3 1246 v3, 16gb ddr3 1600 and an Rx 480 8gb 2 years ago... Thing was a beast and only cost me around $250 total at the time
I feel like the potential owner of a system like this is way more likely to upgrade to a 2x4GB kit rather than jump to a 2x8GB. The delta in price is still relevant for someone that evidently does not have that much change to spare, so to speak.
The 1050 ti was the perfect cards for these builds. To bad 1050 tis are going for around $175-200 now
Especially since the 1050 pulls it's power from the PCI-E port, no worries about SATA to gpu adapter nonsense.
i bought my dell optiplex 7010 in december of last year. i found it for $80 cad and it came with an i7 3770 and 16gb of ram. it didnt come with a hard drive but that didnt matter to me. i upgraded the power supply to a 600 watt 80 plus white (it was only $10 more than the 430 watt one) got a kingston 240gb ssd, also bought a pcie wifi card since i cant get ethernet in my room, and got a gtx 1060 6gb for only $150 (this was only a few weeks before the gpu shortage). the total price for it was only $400 cad. the pc runs all the games i play fine, also the desktop performance is really solid, sine the i7 3770 has 4 cores and 8 threads, it actually runs alot faster than my 13 inch 2015 macbook pro. overall im really happy with the system, and would recommend it to anybody whos thinking of buying it.
I was looking forward to this. I recently found a pc sitting on the curb with a gtx 750 and a 1TB hard Drive,. I’m gonna make a pc build for my gf for light gaming and maybe some emulation. The optiplexs on eBay are not badly priced.
hopefully this doesnt end up installed backwards too
Haha!! Nah, I got it in the right way around this time. 😂
Honestly at this point the *ONLY* thing making current gaming prebuilts "compelling" is that you can no longer just buy one of these or an old Thinkcenter and chuck a solid GPU in on the cheap.
EDIT: The other thing with the Thinkcenters is that they mostly use standard PSUs.
Currently working on a optiplex 7060 sff build. Has an i5-8500 6/6 C/T cpu, 256gb M.2 boot, 1tb ssd storage and 16gb DDR4 2666mhz. Gonna be throwing in the 6400xt lp card. Perfect for esports, emulators and light AAA titles. Plan on building similarly built 5070's for people to get gaming. On the cheap. Working on cooling solutions for the mini beasts.
Just a heads up, they make power supply adapters for these. They like $12. Also, the 4790 would give a decent boost in IPC over the 4590. The Xeon 1271 v3 will also work, is pretty much the same as the 4790 minus the integrated GPU, and it should cost a little less on the second hand market. With either, you could get away with something like a 1070 or a 1080... with an upgraded PSU, of course.
I'm impressed with the performance with that GPU. I might have to consider flipping these again. Great systems IF you can find a reasonably priced GPU to put in them.
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Interesting to see how this is working for you, since I accomplished the same thing the expensive way (I built a new PC with a 4670k and a 760 some years ago, then replaced the 760 with a 6GB 1060 three or four years later). I thought the thing was great, especially after the GPU upgrade. Then, I bought a low to mid-tier gaming laptop with the mobile 3GB 1060... and discovered just how much my CPU was holding me back (compared to the 7700HQ in the laptop). On paper, I should have been fine... 4 cores vs. 4 cores, higher frequency on the desktop CPU (especially with the overclock), better cooling, same instruction set... etc. I wouldn't have expected hyperthreading to make that big a difference.
I grabbed an Optiplex 9020 MT from a local private seller for $150. Replaced the PSU with 500W EVGA, and added the adapter cable for the odd Dell mobo connections. Upgraded the i7-4770 to i7-4790K. Upgraded the puny Radeon card to RTX 2060 FE. Ditched the 1TB HDD and added 1TB Samsung SSD + 4TB HGST HDD. Maxed out the memory at 32GB at the fastest supported speed. It has been a rock solid machine and plenty fast. Even cooling has not been a problem whatsoever, even with the i7-4790K in there, fwiw. Might sound like a lot of money to put into this old machine, but I already had some of these parts, and I was able to sell certain things like the i7-4770 to recoup some of the cost.
I have been using a 960 in my system since 2016, still holds up pretty well in 1080p low gaming, better than spending all my life savings to get a new one
I have a optiplex 9020, i7 4770 and a 1050 to. It plays warhammer total war 2 on medium settings, which really surprised me. You can also play the first one on high with unit size set to ultra if you turn off shadows.
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That's oddly familiar, I'm in the process of building one of these and this is to T exactly the same as it was up until yesterday when I got my 16 gig kit in, and I'm getting ready to throw either a 1650 or rx 570 or 580 in it, this is again oddly familiar to a T, well done Dawid
My 8 yo sons first PC, a Optiplex EX2 w/ i7 3770, 4x8gb ddr, and a 1050Ti. Had it now for nearly 2 years now. Supposed to be for schooling, but a laptop has been implemented for that task. Plays games well for his use; Fortnite, BeamNG, WreckFest, Minecraft, and few others. Haven't touched to OE power supply yet. Before we do anything else, we'll likey look at options for the next slightly newer hardware build and start over in a new case.
There are 24 pin to 8 pin power adapters for using a standard power supply on these.
However installing a higher wattage GPU on this would likely result in thermal issues.
Something else to consider: a Dell Precision or Lenovo Thinkstation workstation PC. These are a bit more expensive but most have higher wattage PSU and multiple case fans.
my OptiPlex 390 has an i7-2600, 16gigs of ram, and a 1050ti, and 250gig ssd ... the motherboard was not proprietary so i could use any atx power supply, the whole thing after upgrades cost me around $450 and i absolutely love it ... use it mainly for 4k movies and youtube but still has some power to play doom eternal at about 40 fps low settings.
Portland Oregon...huge tech market here for new/used PC parts, can get anything, even the newest scalped stuff. Pre covid you could get these Dell's for around $100---$150...now local builders have caught on and will, like the video, throw in an older GPU and sell them for around $350. Still a great deal in comparison to what's offered out there, that is marketed as a "gaming" pc. I have been buying/selling PC parts in this market since '05 and I will say, today's market is the most interesting I have ever seen. The most new number of PC users I have ever seen, both gamers and just users alike. Just when you though the PC world might be dying...here we are again. Good times. Great vid BTW...
I have one of these setups as my 2nd PC. Its a optiplex 990. Got the PC off eBay for $120, got a 1050ti for $130, put a 240gb SSD in and changed power supply for $50 total. Had a 1tb hard drive and 2 sticks of 4gb ddr3 already so that was free. The PC came with a i7 2600, 2x4gb ddr3,motherboard, trash power supply. It's handled everything I've thrown at it. I upgraded the ram to 4x4gb ddr3 for a total of 16gb. Added a fan to the front to pull air in and it stays so frosty. Added my DVD drive from my old PC and it's everything I want.
Just recently did this! My Optiplex has a i7-3770 and 16gb of ddr3 ram, upgraded with an asus GTX 960, corsair tx750m PSU and a 512gb ssd. Gotta say, it'll run anything i want it to, even the halo infinite beta at very low settings! (averaging a bit less than 50fps, but still kinda playable!)
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11:28 Great video. You still can install Win 11 on that Pc even without the stupid tpm (security stuff) there are videos on how to do it. I did it on my old laptop and it works :)
what really urks me is that that system most likely has tpm 2.0 and secure boot, it's just the CPU that is "too old". At least is with my case with this system with a 3rd gen i3.
I like to hit up surplus auctions to see if there are any diamonds in the rough.
Got me a quad-core i7 Optiplex once (SFF) that was my router, but is going to be my dev server in a few weeks.
Hands down my favorite channel!! Anyways boss, I build PCs all the time. Your alot of help with your videos. My son wanted one last year so here's the build I gave him. Mind you, he's only 8 and ONLY plays Minecraft until recently now warzone too lol!
Optiplex sff $89 USD AMAZON
-CORE I5 4590
-8 GB DDR3 1666
-500 GB HDD
-290W PSU
And SLAPPED the legendary
-gt 1030 DDR5 $84 USD
in it for Minecraft!
This October he started warzone. So it's now
Dell optiplex board IN
-I5 4590 still
-AZZA MID TOWER $40 USD AMAZON
-16GB DDR3 1666 KIT $25 USD AMAZON
-650W PSU GOLD RATED $50 USD AMAZON
-256 GB SSD $20 USD AMAZON DEAL
-DEEPCOOL CPU COOLER $25 USD AMAZON
-GTX 970 SC $182 EBAY AUCTION WIN.
The dell T1600 systems with an ivy bridge i7 (or the xeon equivalent) is the way for go for super budget builds in my opinion, the extra threads really help, and in the UK at least the power supply connectors are all standard ATX, so swapping out the PSU is an option if needed.
Or a Dell T1700 with a Haswell i7 or the Xeon equivalent.
I currently use an old office pc for my daily driver. I use an HP Z600 with 2x Xeon X5672 and a gtx 1650. It works well for gaming. It is not playing current AAA titles but it works for what I use it for.
Now living in London, I see a lot of old systems just ready to be thrown in the landfill. At my old workplace, a colleague found an old gaming rig, next to a skip bin and it came with some pretty decent specs. DDR3 RAM (couldn't remember how much RAM, but I did see some HyperX sticks in there, so I assume around 16GB) and a GPU what looked like a Radeon RX 460. I'd say that's bloody impressive!
Did this but with a lenovo system (E73 desktop to be exact) modded the front of the case so I could add a 140mm fan at the front and another 80mm fan above it for airflow, swapped out the i5 4590s cpu for a xeon 1230 v3 so I could at least have 4 cores and 8 threads without spending 100+ on an haswell I7, replaced the psu for an evga 450w br and used a 24 to 14 pin adapter, added an rx 470, 240gb ssd boot drive and a 1tb hdd and now I have a system that handles all of the games I play like a champ. Even outperforms my previous gaming laptop (aka the mess that is the Dell G7 7588 with a gtx 1050). This was back at the start of January so I didn't even have to spend a whole kidney on the GPU.
Excellent video. I would love to see a video of the Lenovo Y700. It has similar specs corei7 6700H, GTX 960 2 or 4 gb depends on the model.
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