Good review which seems fair to me. I have an M3P, but if for some reason I had to pick a different EV it would be the Polestar 2, so well done to polestar for putting together at least a sensible alternative to Tesla. The more credible EVs there are, the better for all of us.
when the base model polestar2 is available in canada, i'll certainly roll in to the volvo dealer in my model 3 with an open mind, eager to make a trade if the deal is fair. no better way to compare ownership experience than to have owned both.
I have a M3P. No reliability issues at all. Interior is a breath of fresh air and relaxing. The looks are the result of a low drag coefficient. It looks more like a sports car than the polestar, to me. Very happy with mine.
My favorite part of the 3’s styling is when you see the front side profile from the windshield forward. The nose looks so low to the ground it’s almost like a Aston Martin, mainly when you’re looking at one with the Performance wheels and brakes.
F C it looks ugly. They are as common as fiestas where I live and honestly I don’t get the appeal. The model S is the only normal looking vehicle with no obscene proportions
Horizon301 I didn’t like the 3 when I first started seeing them but it’s grown on me. It definitely looks better with the 19” or 20” wheels. I think black, white and red are its best colors.
F C they are the most popular anyway due to what’s standard, not a fan. I see 3-4 of them every time I’m out driving, funnily enough, most usually driven by pensioners.
I’ve ordered the PS2, fits us perfectly. I live far north in Norway, drive 99% on charging from my house. We have alot of darkness in the fall and winter, which means the headlights will be in use alot. The Pixel lights should be a clear winner in that regard for the PS2, and headlightwashers are only one car who has and its the PS2. Tow hitch and can pull 1500kg, forged wheels (and an option to use 3rd party wheels without losing warranty), no panelgaps, no ugly aero wheels, 360’ camera, more than one screen, electric tailgate, greater quality on the paintwork (Volvo paint>Tesla), looks alot better IMO, frameless mirrors look fantastic. The list is long for why I chose the Polestar over a Tesla. But the Tesla was never considered because of the bad quality on the build and paintwork.
I've got one on order for these same reasons. The Teslas have my respect, but somehow, even this video doesn't have me second guessing my decision. Let's have a winter comparison, shall we?
Bad quality seem to be history. New big quality survey in China place the model 3 on top of all carbrands. And next year the Tesla in Europe will be bulit in Germany.
@nexus drexus Tesla model 3 is the safest car in the world as per all ratings by 3rd parties... not sure you want more reliability than that, of yourselves vs the automobile..
@@kuldeuec I think when there were so much insults being thrown, it's usually when facts are stacked against the speaker. We'll get some real comparisons when Sandy Munro get to take apart the Polestar.
Long Range Side by Side Comparison: Vehicle Polestar 2 Tesla 3 Long Range Price £46,900* £46,990* Battery 78kwh 75kwh Efficiency 2.99mi/kw 4.29mi/kw Range 233 EPA 322 EPA 0-60 4.7s 4.4s Safety TBC 5 star NCAP Service Annually No servicing required Warranty 3 years 8 years battery/motor Motor 402bhp 443bhp Charging 150DC 250DC Network Public only Tesla Network + public Safety Pilot Autopilot Autonomous None £6,800 (software)* *After government grant **Hardware included in base cost, can upgrade software at any time
The polestar also comes with an 8 year battery and motor warranty (10 years in California). Car and Driver also tested the 0-60 time to be 4.1sec (I'm pretty sure polestar does the same thing as Audi with acceleration times since both de Polestar 1 and 2 are quicker when tested irl).
@Victor Hugo Nio ES - WONDERFUL SUV Swap batteries when on a road trip, no need to charge and you can get an even bigger battery. Makes the Tesla supercharger obsolete in China and has integrated shades for the glass roof without having to stick it in. Better seats too.
"driver engagement" - he covered that pretty well at about 6:00 in, no? "safety" - has the P2 been crash tested yet? "aestethics" - completely subjective. I do prefer the P2 styling but not convinced on the proportions. "practicality" - have you seen this review? 5 min in there's literally a boot comparison segment.
Simple remedy? Offer a set amount per car for installation of a charger. Most governments also offer incentives, some utilities as well. And for those who don't have a set place to park&charge? Offer an equivalent amount in whatever network's the manufacturer is using. See simple way to address the number 1 concern of switching to an electric!
Since when are manual steering wheel controls better than electric with memory? In Tesla steering wheel position gets saved into your profile. If the car is driven by more than one person this means it will automatically restore your proffered position even when some other driver (say your wife) changed its position. I won't go into 'easy entry' that automatically moves steering wheel and seat position so it is easier to get in and out.
That was my first thought as well. I don't know how many driver presets the Polestar has (while still having to manually move the steering wheel), but the Model 3 has 10 (one can be taken for use as easy entry) and it adjusts EVERYTHING except the interior mirror (seat distance, height, recline...,exterior mirrors, and steering wheel height and distance). I have two presets for me in slightly different positions that I tend to use to shift slightly on longer drives that can be changed with two screen touches.
seems that the more apt comparison would be the dual motor long range instead of the performance Tesla....since even the DMLR is faster than the Polestar.
The outcome would be pretty much the same though, save for the acceleration. He didn't mention the exterior touches of the M3P. I have the Long Range with boost, or stealth if you will. Aside from the 0,7 sec less to 60, I find them pretty similar.
Michael Johnsen I think that's the point of his comment. As the Model 3 Performance is more expensive, you would get a much more equal car, for far less, if you buy the long range instead of the performance, in this comparison, and it's still quicker than the Polestar 2, and has a better breaking distance.
@@MichaelJohnsenOslo because suddenly there is no price advantage. You lose track mode on the model 3 though. 3 has other advantages not covered too. I really wanted to like the polestar but dang, might add well just get a model if you want there higher seating position. I wouldn't even consider it at this point without the charging network.
I don't understand the remark against Tesla's steering and mirror regulations. First, they are usually a one-time only setup, maybe with a couple of tweaks in the first hours/days of use. So it's pretty irrelevant if the controls are immediately available or behind a menu or two. Plus the steering adjust for the PS2 is manual, while the Tesla can save it in the driver profile, which is super handy if the car is driven by more than one person (which is often the case). Here Tesla have definitely the better solution. As it often happens, this is very evident for a regular user of the car, and less to a reviewer/tester that goes from one car to another, maybe.
Very fair comparison. I think the fact the polestar 2 even comes close to the TM3 is praiseworthy. No-one can beat Tesla’s charging network, so if you want that, theres no discussion left. Personally, I would pick the PS2 because I think it’s a beautifully designed, premium looking beast of a car, sure it doesn’t do as much or go quite as far, or as fast, but it’s still plenty for me.
Bruce Kennedy I’ve ordered one which is about to arrive. If I needed to drive long I would choose a diesel over a Tesla. The Polestar goes long enough for my family to cover 99% of our trips without having to charge away from home. It fits our bill quite nicely, even with three kids in the back it will do fine 👍🏻
@@salamandur I'm so pleased for you and very jealous! I spent some time with a show model last year (static, no driving sadly) and I fell in love with it. Every inch is so well conceived. Now the reviews are in, the driving experience seems to be exactly what it promised to be. So for me personally it is quite literally the perfect car. You will love it.
Bruce Kennedy thanks! I drove one of the car last week when they were on a road tour in Norway. It did not disappoint at all. Perfectly comfortable ride even with Performance Pack, would even love to make it stiffer. Its what it seemed to be, and even better in my opinion. Cant wait to get mine and start the 10 hour drive back home :)
Been watching reviews of the Polestar 2 for the past few days and almost every reviewer a year ago said they would prefer the M3. But then this year post another video saying they changed their mind and much prefer the Polestar 2. Guess the OTA updates really helped it out this year. But for me, Polestar 2, just looks more fun and less hassle. And those pixel headlights, wow, amazing for night driving.
Not everything is about how fast it accelerates ! Most people buying these kinda cars are not going to be drag racing them down the motorways. The Polestar makes more sense, its cheaper, has better quality inside -(where it really needs to be of better quality) had a proper drivers display. Not every little thing controlled through 500 submenus, such as a way to just to open a glove box or temp control ?? old school adjustments will be more user friendly to most drivers.
Lol in 99% of ways it's worse. Its really that simple. There is only one reason to get the polestar....if you want to be different. It's a legitimate reason, but it's the only one.
I do love the Polestar looks outside and a bit the materials used inside above my Tesla 3 SR+, but my impression is that a SR+ is a better buy than a Polestar 2. I have driven a latest version of the Volvo V70, which I loved, but was really positively surprised by the Tesla 3 driving manners and seating. Not to mention the unbeaten Supercharger network, which makes driving a feast without range anxiety, even with my modest lower range SR+
@@mgvanmiddelkoop I think the superchargers are a game changer and noone can touch Tesla while they are the only ones with these. Nice to hear someone who has a Tesla being honest and fair about material etc not being maybe as good as the Polestar. I think that you may be right, the driving manners and supercharging to be fair probably do mean, that at the moment the Tesla 3 is a better car than the Polestar. Not sure about reliability as both cars age, I dare say the Polestar will have the better build quality and thus maybe less problems as they age etc, however I guess this is something yet to be seen.
Yash Gulave one of the reasons I bought a model 3, is the minimalistic design. When I get into a car with loads of buttons, especially on the steering wheel, I get total information overload and miss the simplicity of the Tesla.
Having driven the Model 3 for a year, stepping into a traditional car with screens and dials all over the place is like going back in time. The simple design in the Model 3, and the level of automation allows far fewer distractions, and long drives are so much less tiring.
I drive a Tesla Model 3P and have 2 x 240 km round trips for work each week. Like many people I am working more from home. Although there is a supercharger within 10 km I do 90% of my charging at home - rooftop solar and off-peak grid. Costs are minimal. To be fair to the Polestar 2 many owners will be able to do that, so superchargers are not a deal maker/ breaker for people who don't do regular long trips. Prospective buyers should understand this. The Model 3 is the best car I have owned but the Polestar looks like an excellent proposition and well priced without the performance extras.
I have a 3 and one thing it seems most of the reviewers don't get, is the voice commands. You say everything has to be done though the one screen, but most of my interactions with the cars controls are with voice commands.
Model 3 is the car for the tech enthousiast to buy. Who likes tech features and welcomes a product which isn’t finished but is improving like software. Polestar 2 is the car for the traditional carbuyer who values thinks like quality, dealership relationships and conventional things like buttons and a driver display. You can’t go wrong which ever you pick in my opinion.
I disagree, while the tesla has lot‘s if modern tech aswell, the infotaiment of the polestar is more modern and tecky. It‘s the first car with google, if i‘m not mistaken
You don’t have any real polestar dealers (they ain’t sold at your typical volvo dealer) and from a family that have had the latest xc90 T8 and model x and which both had problems that had to be fixed at service centers, the volvo leaves you at some rental place and hopefully you get something decent, in our case an c-class 🤷♂️ whilst tesla provides you with another tesla. At one point they even went to our home, took our car and left an replacement. That is quality of service and worth a lot.
@@hsvcommodore4111 If you compare the two infotainment side by side, Tesla is undoubtedly by far the most advanced. The Tesla has had google maps and spotify for years. The Tesla is updated constantly and also has, voice control, You Tube, Netflix, racing games, platform games, caraoke, dash cam viewer, camp mode, dog mode, romance mode, sentry mode.....
Great to see a new EV on the road!, but the PS2 is almost 300kg heavier than the Tesla which will have a negative effect on range etc. The key factor though is the Tesla Supercharger Network which is a game changer!
and handling. We thought when Tesla released their cars that they were heavy due to the batteries, turns out they did a great job making them as light as possible. Everything else thats been released from the legacy makers has so far been quite a bit heavier than the comparative Tesla when size is compared
The Tesla Network is a major factor. However some people won't need it as most Journey's are less than 100 miles - for example me ... I don't need autopilot and I don't do more than 100 mile round trips (or one way stays) more than twice a year. For that any EV that does 200miles is more than enough for me. And I'm very OCD with my cars, so build quality inside and out is a major factor for me when picking a car. I'll give up a little range and the Tesla network for a more solid car that feels more premium for my sub £50k.
@@kevinashurst634 Quite right however, at the risk of sounding like a Tesla fan boy, there are some caveats with Ionity. 1. No EV can charge at 350KWh, Tesla superchargers have an average charge speed of 150kW with V3 at 250kW (All Model 3 & all new S & X) 2. Whilst they are rolling out more chargers, Ionity are still at only 200, whilst Tesla are at 500+ & growing at a similar rate. There is a question mark against their reliability. 3. Cost - Tesla charge 24p kWh flat rate, Ionity charges 69p kWh (without a subscription), That's >187% increase!
Ordered a Polestar last week as have 4 of my colleagues. We all went PS2 simply because the lease rates on Tesla are so much higher here in the UK. For us the T3LR was £150 / month more! That makes the Tesla way off budget. I’m not a big fan of Tesla’s “minimalist” interior or it’s quirky exterior but still would have had one because of its performance and charging network. However at the end of the day, the Tesla with an almost identical window price have obviously not worked out a deal with the lease companies. That to me is a major oversight.
Polestar 2 for me. The interior is leagues ahead and more practical. Not having to do everything via a giant ugly screen is a big plus. Convenience of a hatchback and the unmatchable safety features and record of what is essentially a Volvo product. Do I need to accelerate at warp speed. No.
Have you gotten a chance to drive them? Car industry is moving to a point where buttons will no longer be needed and just a touchscreen would do the job. Look at it like this, Apple removed the headphone jack and people were confused. It seemed that they removed it years to early but moving forward years later and now every new phone does not include the headphone jack. All I am trying to say is that if you do live on for 5+ more years, expect cars to soon only have giant ugly touchscreens and the fewest of buttons/switches. But hey you might lease it for 3 years and not own the car for yourself. Depends on the person, but if you haven’t had the chance to compare them both in person, do so.
@@SevenSieteSeven not just the headphone jack, they literally got rid of all the buttons with the release of the first iphone, first everyone was shocked, few years later it's the standard.
Went P2 Hatchback - for doggo Towbar - for trailer which is braked. 3 years servicing (at any Volvo dealer), 3 years breakdown cover, 3 year warranty (battery 8 years). Plus if I take it to my local Volvo dealer I get a courtesy car and they pick mine up. Volvo quality with more car like interior design. Though, the Tesla LR and Performance I test drove for a day each were totally quick, but the build quality wasn't the best. Supercharger network is incredible on the long trip I did, but nearest one from me is 60 miles, don't often drive that far.
"3 years servicing (at any Volvo dealer)," that's not true polestar 2 will be serviced by "approved workshops" the position of volvo dealers it's pretty clear especially in USA and Canada where they already said they won't service the polestar EVs .
Evs do not need servicing, this is just a con. Tesla does not require you to service your car for warranty purposes. Volvo has nothing to do with Polestar they are separate companies owned by Geely.
@@raymondsmith9936 if the vehicle has brakes, they will need checking at least annually and eventually replacing, same with tyres, air con system, safety restraint systems etc. To believe a Tesla never needs servicing or any vehicle is a bit worrying. The Tesla model S I have needs servicing annually for brake caliper check, brake fluid replacement every 2 years, and air con every 2, tyre rotations etc... To comply with Tesla's recommended schedules and common sense when doing 20k + miles a year in it. Whilst it's been a reliable vehicle, it has only needed a new set of pads, couple of tyres, caliper cleaning (lots of grit on roads here in winter) and usual air filter replacements. The main issue has been finding a garage that understands the vehicle. Only reason I am switching is a wanted a smaller car with a hatch with decent acceleration and I hopefully won't have to do as much driving in next few years thanks to the new way of doing meetings that's come with Corona. I am going to miss the super charging network. Polestar is jointly owned by Volvo and Geely, but yeah in the end Geely.
@@davidfrank1344 each car does have an annual check after the third year, a mot. I own a M3P, no servicing required, brakes should last 80,000 miles. Tesla recommended replacing battery coolant fluid after 5 years, but not warranted.
When do you people stop putting similar evs against each other, like real compatators? Start putting them against cars that they are really taking market shares. ICE cars like the bmw 3 series look very bad against either of the cars in the video.
Agreed my next car will be ICE just because of economics but in 4 years I expect to be in a full ev. I don't see ICE lasting until the government ban in 2035 (I think that's the new UK target)
@@philipmumford7871 Please report back after 4 years, seems like the economics are not that good. You have to expect higher depreciation than normal. In 4 years way less people want to buy your used ice-car even if in good shape.
@@markplott4820 if you consider design alone the tesla is nicer. But i didnt say any about their performance. So yes they have great performance. But in my own perspective the polestar is nicer.
Also, a manual adjust for a steering column (in a $50k+ car no less) means no steering column memory and no easy entry mode. I don't recall the last time I saw a car in this price range without a power adjustable steering column.
@@tiloalo It seems to be about the point it appears on German cars. My 330 was manual, my 535 was powered. My base Lexus (an RX back before the NX existed) and near-base LIncoln (MkC). In all cases, it was part of the "easy entry" mode as well, where the wheel would move up and in and the seat down and back to accommodate different drivers who could then use driver memory (in the BMWs case, it would also adjust that memory based on the key used).
@@jerrylove865 c class also don't have this (or maybe as an option) which is more the level of the model 3. It doesn't seems to be a must on this category
Fair review. As a long standing fan of Swedish cars my heart lusts after the Polestar, but I’d buy a Tesla - although I’d wait for the model Y for better practicality.
@@markplott4820 Yeah, I know. But both Polestar models to date, like the Volvos they share platforms with, have been designed and engineered in Sweden. That just about qualifies them as Swedish as far as I'm concerned.
I disagree with the looks. I think Tesla looks much better. And yeah, interior isn’t as good. But build quality people say it’s bad, yet it’s somehow rated the safest car in the world right now 🤷🏻♂️
Killer (possible) App is self driving Tesla say they are on the cusp .. hmm maybe who knows BUT you do know volvo is not there at all so if both are equal this for me is a killer in Teslas favor.
@@ipb1966 I disagree with the speaker comment, what Tesla did was hire engineers from the leading speaker companies and asked them to find the best unbranded solution available, rather than pay over the odds for branded speakers. The birds eye view is a software update that Tesla has committed to providing. Tesla has the known how to build their own interface and do not need to pay Google or Apple and can pivot more quickly based on customer needs, like what they did with sentry mode. Agreed with customer service, however, I do not believe Polestar has a service centre just yet? I have a Tesla too, EVs all round.
@@steve.k4735 one day your Tesla car has the potential to make you money, therefore, it changes from an asset that depreciates quickly to a commodite that generates income. Also Tesla has said that they will likely stop selling cars to the public and instead grow the Tesla Network.
Put the deposit down on the Polestar Feb 19 but got bored waiting (childish I know) and bought the Tesla 3P - no regrets and build quality issues over exaggerated imo- I was lucky though, got mine on 30/09/19 and qualified for government grant of £3500 at that time bringing nett cost down to under £51k.
It's pretty laughable watching these reviewers all going around tapping panels and measuring gaps in panels with a micrometer. Just drive the damn thing and you'll never regret it.
Brian not really. Tesla’s quality is worse than that on lower end fords. Some people don’t like paying over £20,000 for a car with poor workmanship. Certainly at the 50k range you would be buying a top of the range 5 series or A6 to which Tesla can’t compete with. Now remember that the model s and X are no better and cost more than an S Class and 7 series with the X costing over 100k in Bentley price territory. That’s why Tesla quality is an issue.
@@Horizon301. owning a Tesla I can speak first hand to say I have had trouble free driving with no issues to speak of. The whole quality thing is just buzz words with that the media was feed. Just the same as The Polestar is being touted as a Chinese made car, as surely it does not matter which country it is made in. I had Range Rover prior to my M3P that that had a few problems and my Audi Quattro before that, I ended up rejecting under the sales of goods act as it broke down 3 times in 6 months of ownership. At the end of the day most cars have issues, surely it is how responsive the manufacture it at correcting them that is important.
Raymond Smith that’s why I didn’t mention that at all, Tesla owners know what they are getting into and in general they aren’t going to be any more reliable as they tend to have other issues which don’t make up for the lack of moving parts compared to an ICE vehicle. My point was that the interior quality for example is awful, cheap, nasty materials for the most part. At the price point they operate in, you would have a car full of wood, metal, high quality plastics and the finest leather. Just remember that the model x is literally in Bentley territory in terms of pricing. Also Tesla’s warranty might as well be 2 years anyway, just like a German car, I wouldn’t keep it past that point as stuff will go wrong I imagine. If you don’t care for quality than have at it but personally it’s why I only like German cars, huge difference between any brand and that offered by VW Group and BMW. All of these cars we have had from said manufacturers usually have had 0 issues and required 1-2 services and that was it. I would personally like to see the minimalist interior gone and better materials used, right now is like the typical American cars that didn’t sell well in the UK for the same reasons. Take Chevy and American ford models.
@@Horizon301. I am 2 years and 50k miles into our M3P and still haven't had any issues related to Tesla. I guess I will have to get it serviced at some point in the next 50k miles but it really is super low on maintenance/issues in my (anecdotal) experience. Also, you can get a Bentley SUV for $100k? If so that is news to me.
I own a TM3 and yes, it's gotten better, but I think the 3D overview in the Polestar looks like a better, more useful solution. I could easily imagine it coming in a software update from Tesla at some point.
Yeah, I've mentioned it as well. Seems like a lot of youtubers just like to hear themselves talk about a car for 10 minutes instead of delivering clear and correct information.
The comfort is only bad because the dampers are on a firm mode. Get rid of those dampers or set them in a comfortable setting, and the Polestar will be as comfortable or maybe even more comfortable than the Model 3. To me, buying a car is also a feeling, and to me the Tesla feels boring and soulless. I don't like how the whole interior looks, I don't like the way the indicators work and how it disengages autopilot every time you change lanes (at least in non full self driving variants). My Golf can resume Travel assistant automatically, why can't the Model 3? So you'll hear the autopilot on and off sound way too often. Which is bloody annoying. Yes I have driven thr Model 3. Except for the performance and the quick steering I wasn't impressed. When I sit in the Polestar I feel like I am in a cool new car. It looks good inside and out. When I sit in the Model 3 I feel like I am in an Apple store, with a table and a screen on a stick. It just has a steering wheel because it needs one. And before you start shouting range and superchargers: 1: You ideally don't use superchargers on a daily basis if you have a home charger setup, and when you don't, you use whatever is closest. You lot are Contradicting your typical anti-ICE argument of "I can charge from home and never need to stop at a station anymore" 2: where is the usual "commute is only 30 miles" excuse that you always use against ICE cars? The range of the Polestar is still above avg.
I’ve recently driven the Polestar 2, and the suspension on the Öhlins dampers were set in standard setup. Perfectly fine comfortwise, I could maybe set it up a bit more stiff for my liking. Loved the drive, and I’m waiting for mine in a month. With PP, leather interior, tow hitch.
@@salamandur I don't want to even listen to this review. Another Brit complaining about Volvo suspension and handling is just plain annoying. If you have big wheels on Volvo with the recommended high tire pressure, you'll get harshness. Smaller wheels and a pound or two softer on the tire pressure, Volvo rides pretty much like most European cars, maybe softer.
Really good review thanks. I thought I was going mad with lots of journo's saying the Polestar 2 was better than the model 3. Yes it has a nice interior, but having looked at both, that's the only area where it's got something on the Tesla. Then you come along and say the exact thing I was thinking - the quicker, 300kg lighter, more technically accomplished, better handling car with better range and better charging infrastructure is the better car. Glad I'm not mad...
Nicer interior nicer exterior, better build quality, better connection through Google, handling is debatable based on different reviews. Charging infrastructure Tesla yes. I think everyone knows that Elon wants to have auto companies catch up, he can add value through software, battery farms etc and then its off to Mars we go
Minor issue : "Everything is on the touch screen" : no... ! There are 2 controls, each 3 way on the steering wheel that are not labelled. These are context sensitive buttons which means they have multiple different actions which actually make things easier. The default is auto-pilot control and sound volume/voice commands. Of course, you see they have no labels , but how many people actually read the tiny print on their steering wheel controls in other cars when you use them - you know where they are. I personally don't think the Tesla 3 is ideal with regard to screen in front of you, but like any car, I am used to it now after 1000 miles of driving and just "obvious".
The lack of an actual cockpit with dials on the Tesla is enough to make me hate it. I prefer to look straight and down to see my speed and not to the left and down.
What is it you want to see? The speed is is nice big numerals (about 1.5 cm high block numerals) that take no real focus to observe. The only other thing really is battery charge remaining that you need/want to look at every "once in a while", maybe. The rest of the stuff you are used to monitoring in an ICE vehicle, there just isn't an analog; no oil temp, oil pressure, coolant temp*, boost pressure, tachometer, battery/alternator voltage, and whatever others I'm forgetting... That stuff just doesn't exist because it has no purpose in an EV. I like that it's not behind the steering wheel, because I like the steering wheel at its lowest setting in most cars and frequently (not always) the wheel is right in my line if sight to the speedometer, so for me this isn't just a neutral thing and getting used to it by driving 100 miles or so, it's actually better. The drop from "looking at the road" to the speedometer in most cars (where the speedometer is in the binnacle behind the steering wheel is in the neighborhood of 15° for me; it's about 22° in my Model 3. It just isn't as big a deal as it is made out to be, and it seems it's never from anyone that actually drives a Tesla on a regular basis and gets used to it (it took me maybe 20 miles of driving to get used to it). Just because it's not what you're used to doesn't make it worse. *There is a battery coolant temperature indicator that lets you know if your regenerative braking will be limited prior to the battery warming up in cold temperatures. All the things you need to know as the driver are in the upper corner nearest the driver.
It’s worth mentioning cost in relation to public charging - superchargers are just 24p/kWh whereas ionity or other 250KW chargers can be over twice the price, without the reliability
@@markplott4820 lol! This is nonsense. If Tesla were paying 24p/kWh in the UK then they are: A. being totally ripped off and B. making extremely bad business decisions. They will most likely be paying between 12 and 15 p/kWh.
So great video & thanks for posting it The Polestar 2 looks like a traditional ICE car to me! I drive a Tesla Model 3 & I wouldn’t trade it in for the PS2, but I’m happy that Polestar is coming on board with an electric vehicle, but I don’t think it will be comparable to the Tesla model cars! So if you’re not driving a Tesla you simply don’t understand how really great they are, as there’s simply nothing on the road that is comparable to them at this moment in time & the fact that it’s the minimalist design of the interior set up that I like & it took mere minutes for me to get use to the center display screen & now I’m not bothered at all! So I don’t know why we need a display screen behind the steering wheel like traditional cars, because this isn’t a traditional car & it will soon be fully autonomous, so what do I care about watching the road when the car is doing the driving? So I do hope Tesla gives us the 360° view in the future & I hope that they also incorporate the augmented reality I do like that, the other thing I would like for Tesla to do is to make the car more interactive like we interact with Siri or Alexa! Those are some features I hopeTesla incorporates in the future, I also want a car with an attitude & not just on the road, but when I imagine if I asked my car to do something & it asked me why? That would be hilarious!LOL!🤣🤣🤣
I've driven Tesla Model 3 a couple of times. It's a nice fun car with sporty feel, but at that price point I expect more than just the (overkill) hard numbers it has to convince me. So I'll gladly trade in some range and maximum speed of ~260 km/h for a 'slower' ~210 km/h Polestar 2 with better looks, better interior, better build quality, extensive Volvo support network, more towing capacity, etc. Currently autopilot is only slightly better than ACC + lane assist. The "soon fully autonomous" has been going on for years; even if it's released this year it'll take a few more years to get past all the regulations in Europe. So I wouldn't hold your breath 😉 Probably the best thing about the Polestar 2 though, is that we are now steadily getting more serious alternatives, so there are actual choices besides the Tesla Model 3. Competition is good 🙂
Well Tesla needs some competition. My wife hated the Tesla because of the screen, and no tactile controls. No-one in the UK is handy with a wrench, but I am pretty nifty with a spanner. Thanks for a good review, I would consider the Polestar.
Very nice review, well explianed and fair. Only minor thing i'd disagree with is regarding the space in the back: the seating position is lower in the Model3 so you have a bit more head space, but it's way less comfortable to sit in. Just look at the seating position (4:39) and the angle at which the legs are forced to bend due to the lower seat.
5:26 The price difference is inflated by the Polestar just making the cut for the government discount and the Tesla doesn't. What if you're perfectly happy with the non-performance versions of these two cars? It's not that they're slow or anything. They both apply for the discount I assume?
Tesla because they aren’t just a car, they are changing the whole car industry. As a founding of a tech startup, just have to respect the Tesla brand more. Volvo would abandon this if it fails to sell. You know Tesla is all in.
+ Superchargers and werid they are comparing Model 3 Performance, because Model 3 LR would be so much better choise to compare to. Also - is the Polestar even AWD?
1.) You fail to mention how much cheaper the Standard Range Model 3 is than the entry Polestar 2. Like seriously ignoring all variants is kind of... wrong. 2.) “ disappointing seats” is subjective. I have amazing bucket seats in my Lexus, I found the Tesla model 3 sears to be even more comfortable. Talk about being knit picky 3.) I’m pretty sure comparing the performance model 3 vs the “ performance “ polestar is wrong... and is more on the Long Range Model 3 option, and then compare those prices. 4.) you fail to recognize the fact that one car makes you think about strippers every time you tell someone the name of it. 5.) oh and 360 cameras... dumb. Tesla can park it’s damn self. The stripper car ain’t bad looking. How many are really going to sell tho?
I think Tesla managed to prove that, it is a reliable car. The others need long time to prove the same. I would go for the Tesla it least it is very well known to all by now.
John Glennie Same with me. Even tho I haven driven a 3 or Y but I’ve been in a Model S. One wasn’t a Performance the other one was. Also been in a Model 3 Performance. There all awesome.
Not the first review to point out the manual adjust of the steering column as an advantage, but how so? If you are the only drive of the car then you will only ever adjust once, so who cares how it is adjusted? If you have multiple drivers, then you have to adjust all the time, but because the Tesla does that electronically, it means steering column, and mirrors are auto-adjusted to whichever driver happens to be in the car (along with pretty much every other preference from air con and radio settings, to drive dynamics). So - how is manual adjustment of steering column or wing mirrors and advantage please?
I don't know about the UK, but the Electrify America 150kW to 350 kW charging sites are going up at a breath taking pace. In just 20 months over 400 of these charging sites have gone up and cover about 80% of the interstate, with 100s more coming in the next 2 years. In my metropolitan area, there are 38 CCS fast charging sites of all types, and 8 Supercharger charging sites. Maybe 2 years ago the charging infrastructure was the elephant in the room, but that elephant is more like a kitty cat now.
I've had a Leaf for four and a half years now and never had an issue. What would be more of a deal breaker for me is build quality - the Model 3 screams corner cutting from every centimetre and the horror stories of unpainted parts, failed brakes and people locked out of their cars would be unacceptable in a fifteen grand car, never mind a forty grand one.
I guess you and every other Tesla fan boi drives MUCH more than 500km per day and finds it as the single and most important argument to trash a brilliant car as the Polestar 2. Fans will be fans....
@@astroplutonium It's a practical constraint. If you can't go visit you mom for Christmas because you will run out of charge then you won't buy the car. You have to have a charging infrastructure or you won't sell the car
@@TimothyParker1 In Norway both networks are more or less equally advanced so your point does not apply to me. If i have to go visit my mom for Christmas i can wait 15 minutes more at a 150KW Ionity charger and have a nicer (in my opinion) car. Enjoy your Tesla :)
Good try from Polestar......but that thing is a bit porky. And are the performance pack etc. included in the quoted price? I would still go for a Tesla, but at least Polestar has a start on something good, unlike almost all the Germans, Japanese and U.S big boys.
for me it's the Tesla, clear winner for obvious reasons... better tech, performance, charging speed & fast charging availability, range, efficiency, sales numbers, safety and the list goes on :D
What a great review, at last the charging is also addressed, for anyone wanting to use an EV just as they used their ICE car there is only one option......the Tesla. 100,000 UK miles over 6 years in my Model S P85 and I use a Zero SRF motorbike as well so get to try the public charging. Public charging 50:50 its working. Tesla 100%. You want to drive local and you have a home charger, go for it otherwise Tesla.
I still struggle to even understand why anybody would consider anything else. Just imagine you could only get fuel for your ICE at "compatible" pumps and those only work 50% of the time, are hard to pay for, etc. I mean why?
Great video :-) As a Tesla owner I´m still glad that new electric cars are coming. We all have different priorities and the more people driving an electric car the better for the environment.
Definitely gonna give the P2 a test drive when it’s available. M3 still wins for me because the experience is just unlike anything else. I’ve literally driven my M3 more than triple how much I drove my previous car in the same period. Any reason to drive and I’m there.
I used to be a long time Volvo owner. I’m not sure Volvo / polestar is known for quality (at least not reliability) and the rest of the industry has caught up on safety.
Polestar on design, interior and 'HMI' (the interface and displays). Tesla on engineering. If Tesla upped their design and got more European they'd close a clear opportunity for other car makers.
At the end of the day design is entirely subjective. I happen to like the Tesla Model 3 design a lot more than the Polestar 2. What is objective though, is the built quality. Tesla has so many quality issues like massive inconsistent panel gaps and misalignment. Whereas the Polestar 2 is very well put together!
Having driven these cars extensively for over a week I find your review to be quite biased in favor of the Tesla. Polestar's interior and exterior quality is superior. The Polestar is, and most would agree, the best looking car. For everyday driving the Polestar is the easiest to get in and out of, it's easier to load in and out of, you sit considerably higher; which is a plus. The Tesla drives better and the comfort is noticably better. The charging network is huge here in Norway, which is why we'll probably go with the Tesla in the end.
Model 3 Long Range is cheaper than the Polestar 2 and still faster. It's a really unfair comparison to use the performance model as a comparison when it doesnt qualify for a subsidy which the LR does, while the LR still beats polestar 2 on every single objective metric.
Two critical things missed here. If you have sat in the rear of a Tesla model 3 then you will find that the extra headroom comes at the cost of a terrible seat angle - your thighs are unsupported and it is intolerable after 30 minutes or so. The headroom is less in the Polestar, but if you are 6 feet or less you will be fine - more than 6 feet and it is not going to be comfortable as you will need to adopt a slightly slumped position. Hence both are compromised on rear comfort. The second thing is the “dog issue” - if you have a dog then you need the hatch (and don’t forget the split/fold rear seats in the Polestar for those trips to the recycling centre). I have no idea why Tesla chose to go with a boot instead of a hatch - the model Y will fix that, but it is not available in the UK until 2022. I have a lot of experience of the UK charging network as I have had an i3 pure EV (not REX) for the last 3 years - and yes it is a mess but not unusable - and Polestar have teamed up with all of the major players to provide a unified access service (which was missed in the review - this was not playing fair What Car). However since I do 98% of my charging at home it really isn’t as big a deal as everyone makes out but I agree that Tesla definitely do this better. I will be buying the Polestar....being able to transport the dog is a “killer feature”
I’m glad the reviewer is honest about Volvo’s crappy suspension. 90% of the others reviewers usually just fail to criticize the harsh and loud suspension.
Matt Mayer when I was looking for a comfortable highway suv last yr I test drove all of the competitors w air suspension and the xc90 just didn’t have that Luxurious highway ride as the competitors. It was the loudest and harshest ride by far. But it did have the best interior space for its exterior size.
The suspensions on polestar 2 would have adjustable strength if you choose sport package. There’s even a guide in the handbook that have suggestions about their level (1-22) based on different usage like daily drive or track days.
The Model 3’s simplistic layout is my favorite part of the car. After I drive my Performance 3 and get into my Discovery 4 I always miss the simple interior of the 3. I wouldn’t ever buy a Polestar for the simple fact that it’s not a Swedish car, but instead it’s a Chinese Geely in a different shell. It’s made in China on a shared platform with internal combustion engine cars. That means it’s got a transmission tunnel when there’s absolutely no reason for there to be one as there’s no driveshaft. This shared ICE platform also leads to the Polestar being obese (several hundred pounds heavier) and it is awkwardly tall. I much prefer a Model 3 because it also has access to Superchargers, is faster and better driving (3 uses double wishbone front suspension vs. struts in the P2), the Model 3 is capable of up to 250kW DC fast charging vs 150kW in the P2, and Autopilot is by far much more advanced than the Polestar 2’s driver assist. The Model 3 also goes much further per charge and the Model 3 has tons more luggage space. Whoever at Volvo/Geely/Polestar has this asinine obsession with these MANUALLY adjustable Ohlins dampers needs to be fired. There’s literally nobody buying a Volvo or Polestar that is trying to get all up under the car to adjust the dampers by hand. There’s a reason the ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED DAMPERS that literally every other car with adaptive damping uses. The P2, even with the performance package, is more of a direct competitor to the Model 3 LR AWD. That car is just as quick as the Polestar 2, but it’s substantially cheaper than the 2, while retaining the same fun to drive characteristics of the Performance 3 with the better ride quality of smaller wheels (18” or 19” wheels).
Do you have an iPhone? That is made in China also. I don't get why people come up with that excuse "that is made in China". In the age of globalization why does it matter where stuff is made? I don't think the PS2 has assembling quality issues, and has worse production quality than any european cars manufactured in Europe or in the states.
Sad to see that the Polestar only has looks. The Model 3 looks so smooth and aerodynamic for a reason. Model 3: Range Charging Tech Comfort Ease of use Exciting to drive and blistering fast Polestar 2: Looks way better Nicer interior quality
You forgot build quality. These swedes built the Polestar 2, you know the panels are in line, the paint won't peel off and the quality of materials and quality control.
Ease of use in the model 3?? It's a whole new learning curve involved with getting a model 3 (because everything is controlled through that screen), a major factor.
Didn't really compare headlight technology, winter use, practical use of the trunk, fold down seats, or safety. (Extra mass can mean better safety in car/car collisions.)
When will these car comparison RUclips hosts realize that not having buttons and knob adjustments ARE NOT negatives for us owners. In fact it's a major positive for this Model Y owner. The sleek minimalistic design was a major selling point for me. I did not was a traditional car interior design with a battery pack, which is what all of the other EV brands have been offering. This includes Polestar 2. So adding time in your videos to point out that these cars have knobs and buttons unlike a Tesla just reminds us of why we bought a Tesla in the first place. So thanks for making the difference known, but know that we could care less for those cars, their buttons, knobs and manual steering wheel adjustments.
Here you go, based on what is for sale currently: Vehicle Polestar 2 Tesla 3 Standard Range Price £46,990 £40,490 Battery 78kw 50kw Efficiency 3.7mi/kw 5.1mi/kw Range 292 WLTP 254 WLTP 0-60 4.7s 5.3s Safety TBC 5 star NCAP Service Annually No servicing required Warranty 3 years 8 years battery/motor Motor 402bhp 349bhp Charging 150DC 250DC Network Public only Tesla Network + Public Safety Pilot Autopilot Autonomous None £6,800 (software)* *Hardware included in base cost, can upgrade software at any time.
@goodfella21f It depends on which one: 3.2-ish for the Performance version, 4.5-ish for the Dual Motor non-Performance, 5.0-ish for the currently-not-produced Long Range RWD, and 5.3-ish for the Standard Range Plus.
honestly the two cars are so close together that Im just glad theres competition. you're likely fine with either one, so pick based on personal preference. Tesla should not develop into a monopoly.
Measuring electric cars using 0 to 60 mph is outdated.Electric cars should be measured per kilowatt per hour. Electric cars aren’t like home appliances relying on someone else to provide the power. Tesla build quality may not match Volvo/ China with well over a 100 years of car manufacturing between them. But we’re they are years ahead, is they built a car and provided they mean to power it. Manufacturers need to invest in charging networks like Tesla
Very objective review and focus on most of the important points. One minor point that I think is important is that all the settings from steering wheel column, seats, mirrors, and especially the air vents are all electronic, because the model 3 was designed to be a self driving car with automatic user profile detection. A future that the Polestar did not inspire to reach.
Had a M3P for 1 year now, would not have anything else. The superchargers are the game changer and it is such fun to drive. I like the uncluttered interior. One of the best features is not having to use the brake pedal driving across town.
While understanding all the advantages of the Model 3 my experience with Tesla customer service has been horrendous. Since i believe the Polestar is a much prettier car and their customer support is more serious from my little experience, i bought the Polestar. I would never again own a Tesla unless my work bought one for me or something similar. In Scandinavia, where i live, the Tesla has a better charging network, a better customer fan base and therefore a better resale value most likely (although Tesla is upgrading their models faster than most people change underwear), it has a more comfortable highway ride (it is an American car after all...) On the other hand the Polestar looks far better than any Tesla, the quality of bodywork and interior is miles ahead of any Tesla car, the material quality is also a lot better, the Top model of Polestar 2 is far cheaper than the top model of Tesla Model 3 or Y without cutting too many corners. For me that i am not depended on a fast charging network and i trully despise the Tesla customer support, the clear choice is Polestar. But Tesla fans will disagree. Not that i care much....
All I noticed was just how much more headroom the Tesla had lol. This dudes a real Tesla fan boy. It’s a very nice car don’t get me wrong, but no one ever seems to mention all the tech on the polestar. There’s lots more standard kit than the Tesla that I can see.
Biplab Kumar Ghosh for a start they should be comparing it the the Tesla 3 long range model. Not the performance one. Then the only big difference is the superior range of the Tesla. The performance pack will no doubt be brought very few people.
I've done plenty of long trips in my M3P and it's super comfy. The PS2 is very cramped and the sharp edges on the console hurts if you put your leg against it.
One is a docking station for your mobile phone on wheels, the other is a nice car that happens to be electric and built by a proper car company. I know which one I would have.
Right. I just put an order for my Tesla Model 3, LR. Based on superior AI and proven road record and charging capabilities. What does your "Proper Car Company" offer that would have allowed me not to spend an hour on a motorway waiting for the car to be charged up to 80%?
Yasser Khan you just proved my point by stating... “based by superior AI”. Who cares about that on a car? It’s a car, not an office, it’s supposed to drive it, not be driven in by the computers. But hey, each to their own.
Tesla Model Y is hard to beat, too. A lot of storage..similar to the Model S. Tesla is 10 years ahead of everybody else. The charging times for every other EV are deal killers. The private company chargers are too expensive. They are pricing buyers out of the market. Make your next car a tesla. The only car that makes financial sense in 2020 and beyond regardless of fuel source.
The main thing I like about the Tesla over the Polestar 2 is that I can actually buy a Tesla. Polestar 2 is showing 3 dealers in America where I can buy it. Tesla Model 3 is $46,990 in America for the "Long Range" model (even cheaper for the base model). Polestar 2 being displayed as $59,900 starting price.
Very good comparison and review. gives me something to think about especially since my delivery date on my M3 has changed 13 times in the last month. most recently from being 2 days from the current day to 9-13 week from now. Checked Polestar delivery available in June and it's June 26th. Only concern I have Is how readily is the charging network and a high speed (150w) one. I'm sure you can't use the Tesla supercharge
The breaks of the model 3 might be better the first time, but if you do the same test over you’ll see the polestar 2 is much more consistent in breaking time.
The real competitor is the Long Range, but for it's real non-arctic use, I'd get a Standard Range+. Lighter, rear wheel drive drives better. Spend the savings on FSD and entertainment pack and then some.
Tyran Mathurin I test drove 2018 Model 3P for 2 hours. Searched the whole car. Apart from small panel gaps, interior was flawless. I was really surprised, because I have read different things on the internet.
@@TheTmat007 I have a Model 3 Performance, so does my dad and my little brother. I have 30000km on mine, my dad got 70000km on his(includning two trackdays.) He have driven that distance in 18 months. THATS how addictive these things are.(his Porsche 964 have not moved an inch in that time....) We have had zero problems. I will admit that the paint is too soft and too thin, and that I have a small rattle from the back seat(Tesla will fix it for free, I just haven't botherd yet) But I drive hard, and launch the car every single day at maximum power. Everything just works, and the infotainment and audio-quality is fantastic. Tesla got engineers from Bang & Olufsen to design the stereo. I came to the same conclusion as Sandy Munro: "The paint is bad, the interior quality could be better, but the electronics, suspension and drivetrain is so good it's laughable"
@@chrisalexandersb1748 Tesla's fit & finish is very sloppy! The company needs to learn how to correctly assemble or put cars together. Elon should consider sending his engineers for a factory tour at Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus, Audi, BMW, or Mercedes-Benz. That way they can see how real automotive engineers take pride in producing cars. Also, I'm not a fan of Tesla's habit of cutting corners (as cost-saving measures) in building cars. I'm not a fan of just a single screen inside a car (like in the Model 3 and Y), with almost all the car's functionality. Elon doesn't seem to care about Tesla's poor quality. Tesla will be DOOMED, if it does not improve the overall quality of it cars. Porsche has already outdone Tesla in a number of ways, with the Taycan. This is just the beginning. When legacy automakers really start to take EVs seriously, no one (except cult members) will accept Tesla's poor quality.
Tyran Mathurin I test drove a Taycan Turbo a couple of days ago, actually. Impressive car, but it did not kick as hard when accelerating as the Performance.(on the other hand after 100kph it goes better because of the gearbox). And oh my god the traction control were useless in the wet. The single screen is wierd at first, but after a while everything else just feels stupid. There are 4(!) screens in the Taycan, when there is zero reason to. There is a reason car makers are going over to 1 or 2 screens, it just works. But If I was spending that amount of money on a Porsche, it would be on a 911...... Teslas components are not the problem, American workers are. There are 7 faults per 10000 Model 3 produced in china. And my next Tesla will be made in Germany.
I mean I wouldn’t have used a performance model that the general population won’t buy including myself with a standard range or long range to compare. Seems like an honest review to both but I think the benefit surrounding either car is to buy for what you want. Overall nice quality for price and not a Tesla? Go Polestar. If you are looking to go more autonomous (Tesla I feel is leading since this is their huge initiative leading into the future) then buy a model 3 long range( you really don’t need the performance if your looking for cheaper and more range to “help” the environment.) Don’t buy one of these because you feel pressure by friends or family just test drive both and make a choice on “your” feel
A few notes: the Model 3 performance and the Polestar 2 "performance" are not directly comparable. The Model Y LR is the direct comparison. In the U.S., the Teslas are less expensive. Also, if you're not comparing the Tesla white interior to the Polestar 2 interior then it isn't a fair comparison. The white interior is next level.
comparing a Performance model 3 is only to make it more expensive than the PoleStar. Honestly nobody needs that much power. I have a Standard range +, absolutely no range anxiety with the supercharger network and way more performance than needed. I only drive in Chill mode because it is too powerful ! So comparing SR+ Model 3 with Standard Polestar would make more sense for the price. Tesla > Polestar. Then in terms of performance Tesla > Polestar. So very good car if you don't like Tesla but not better.
I'm in no way bashing you for your opinion...but....nobody NEEDS a Lamborghini, Ferrari, or GTR either yet people buy them. Of course a 500+ hp ev is unnecessary, but its my favorite car I've ever bought. And considering it puts a beat down on ANY other car that normally costs twice to three times as much...now that just makes me smile 😊
I would have the Polestar 2. The reason is the over reason why the Polestar is better than the Tesla Model 3, but not mentioned. The Tesla can only tow 910kgs. The Polestar can to 1500kgs. The other reason I have the Polestar. I what a car with a fully opening tailgate Not some Mickey Mouse letter box as found on the Tesla. If the Tesla did come with a tailgate the the choice would have been harder.
Those frameless mirrors are cool, but given the importance of aerodynamics, particularly for electric cars, how do they keep optimal air flow if the whole mirror assembly moves. I know it seems a minor thing, but mirrors are reasonably important for drag coefficient - e.g. that Honda-e claims a 6% drag reduction by replacing them with cameras.
Good review which seems fair to me. I have an M3P, but if for some reason I had to pick a different EV it would be the Polestar 2, so well done to polestar for putting together at least a sensible alternative to Tesla. The more credible EVs there are, the better for all of us.
when the base model polestar2 is available in canada, i'll certainly roll in to the volvo dealer in my model 3 with an open mind, eager to make a trade if the deal is fair. no better way to compare ownership experience than to have owned both.
I have a M3P. No reliability issues at all. Interior is a breath of fresh air and relaxing. The looks are the result of a low drag coefficient. It looks more like a sports car than the polestar, to me. Very happy with mine.
My favorite part of the 3’s styling is when you see the front side profile from the windshield forward. The nose looks so low to the ground it’s almost like a Aston Martin, mainly when you’re looking at one with the Performance wheels and brakes.
F C it looks ugly. They are as common as fiestas where I live and honestly I don’t get the appeal. The model S is the only normal looking vehicle with no obscene proportions
Horizon301 I didn’t like the 3 when I first started seeing them but it’s grown on me. It definitely looks better with the 19” or 20” wheels. I think black, white and red are its best colors.
F C they are the most popular anyway due to what’s standard, not a fan. I see 3-4 of them every time I’m out driving, funnily enough, most usually driven by pensioners.
@@Horizon301. they are popular because they look good, they are faster than most sports cars and they cost nothing to run.
I’ve ordered the PS2, fits us perfectly. I live far north in Norway, drive 99% on charging from my house. We have alot of darkness in the fall and winter, which means the headlights will be in use alot. The Pixel lights should be a clear winner in that regard for the PS2, and headlightwashers are only one car who has and its the PS2. Tow hitch and can pull 1500kg, forged wheels (and an option to use 3rd party wheels without losing warranty), no panelgaps, no ugly aero wheels, 360’ camera, more than one screen, electric tailgate, greater quality on the paintwork (Volvo paint>Tesla), looks alot better IMO, frameless mirrors look fantastic. The list is long for why I chose the Polestar over a Tesla. But the Tesla was never considered because of the bad quality on the build and paintwork.
I've got one on order for these same reasons. The Teslas have my respect, but somehow, even this video doesn't have me second guessing my decision. Let's have a winter comparison, shall we?
ProfRCook I bet there will be some 👍🏻 Just counting the days till I get mine 🤓
“PS2”
The pianist Why not. P2 is already taken
Bad quality seem to be history. New big quality survey in China place the model 3 on top of all carbrands. And next year the Tesla in Europe will be bulit in Germany.
I must admit, I prefer the design of the Polestar, inside and outside! It's a good looking car.
@nexus drexus Tesla model 3 is the safest car in the world as per all ratings by 3rd parties... not sure you want more reliability than that, of yourselves vs the automobile..
@@kuldeuec I think when there were so much insults being thrown, it's usually when facts are stacked against the speaker. We'll get some real comparisons when Sandy Munro get to take apart the Polestar.
Long Range Side by Side Comparison:
Vehicle Polestar 2 Tesla 3 Long Range
Price £46,900* £46,990*
Battery 78kwh 75kwh
Efficiency 2.99mi/kw 4.29mi/kw
Range 233 EPA 322 EPA
0-60 4.7s 4.4s
Safety TBC 5 star NCAP
Service Annually No servicing required
Warranty 3 years 8 years battery/motor
Motor 402bhp 443bhp
Charging 150DC 250DC
Network Public only Tesla Network + public
Safety Pilot Autopilot
Autonomous None £6,800 (software)*
*After government grant
**Hardware included in base cost, can upgrade software at any time
no servicing required for tesla? hah - other way around
Definitely Tesla for me.
The polestar also comes with an 8 year battery and motor warranty (10 years in California). Car and Driver also tested the 0-60 time to be 4.1sec (I'm pretty sure polestar does the same thing as Audi with acceleration times since both de Polestar 1 and 2 are quicker when tested irl).
500hp**
love it, in depth
Polestar is a great looker ;-) Love the yellow belts
Not really.
seat belts out of a lorry
Love them too. Matter of personal taste i guess
What about design philosophy? Sustainable materials, driver engagement, safety, aesthetics, and practicality?
And the Supercharger network countrywide. Huge huge benefit
@Victor Hugo Nio ES - WONDERFUL SUV
Swap batteries when on a road trip, no need to charge and you can get an even bigger battery. Makes the Tesla supercharger obsolete in China and has integrated shades for the glass roof without having to stick it in. Better seats too.
"driver engagement" - he covered that pretty well at about 6:00 in, no?
"safety" - has the P2 been crash tested yet?
"aestethics" - completely subjective. I do prefer the P2 styling but not convinced on the proportions.
"practicality" - have you seen this review? 5 min in there's literally a boot comparison segment.
@Victor Hugo how do you know "safest"?
Wharcar, Carwow and Autotrader all prefer the Tesla Model 3 in terms of handling.
Charging infrastructure is the elephant in the room
Definitely!
That is what I was thinking the whole time.
Simple remedy?
Offer a set amount per car for installation of a charger. Most governments also offer incentives, some utilities as well. And for those who don't have a set place to park&charge? Offer an equivalent amount in whatever network's the manufacturer is using.
See simple way to address the number 1 concern of switching to an electric!
You can literally plug it into your house.
Charging speed.
Since when are manual steering wheel controls better than electric with memory?
In Tesla steering wheel position gets saved into your profile. If the car is driven by more than one person this means it will automatically restore your proffered position even when some other driver (say your wife) changed its position.
I won't go into 'easy entry' that automatically moves steering wheel and seat position so it is easier to get in and out.
That was my first thought as well. I don't know how many driver presets the Polestar has (while still having to manually move the steering wheel), but the Model 3 has 10 (one can be taken for use as easy entry) and it adjusts EVERYTHING except the interior mirror (seat distance, height, recline...,exterior mirrors, and steering wheel height and distance). I have two presets for me in slightly different positions that I tend to use to shift slightly on longer drives that can be changed with two screen touches.
Except in my experience the automatic driver memory in the Tesla doesn’t work well and doesn’t reset properly. I turned that off.
@@cypvh74 you are the minority, nonetheless that's unfortunate to hear
And you have easy in/out wich adjust steering wheel and seat for easy getting in/out of your car.
@@cypvh74 I have the exact opposite experience, report it to Tesla and they'll fix it.
seems that the more apt comparison would be the dual motor long range instead of the performance Tesla....since even the DMLR is faster than the Polestar.
The outcome would be pretty much the same though, save for the acceleration. He didn't mention the exterior touches of the M3P. I have the Long Range with boost, or stealth if you will. Aside from the 0,7 sec less to 60, I find them pretty similar.
Michael Johnsen I think that's the point of his comment. As the Model 3 Performance is more expensive, you would get a much more equal car, for far less, if you buy the long range instead of the performance, in this comparison, and it's still quicker than the Polestar 2, and has a better breaking distance.
@@MichaelJohnsenOslo because suddenly there is no price advantage. You lose track mode on the model 3 though. 3 has other advantages not covered too. I really wanted to like the polestar but dang, might add well just get a model if you want there higher seating position. I wouldn't even consider it at this point without the charging network.
They were comparing similarly priced vehicles. If you compared this Polestar to long range Tesla. The price gap would be alot larger
The model 3 is much much cheaper...base price of model 3 is 22k less than polestar2.
I don't understand the remark against Tesla's steering and mirror regulations. First, they are usually a one-time only setup, maybe with a couple of tweaks in the first hours/days of use. So it's pretty irrelevant if the controls are immediately available or behind a menu or two. Plus the steering adjust for the PS2 is manual, while the Tesla can save it in the driver profile, which is super handy if the car is driven by more than one person (which is often the case). Here Tesla have definitely the better solution.
As it often happens, this is very evident for a regular user of the car, and less to a reviewer/tester that goes from one car to another, maybe.
Matters for company car buyers
@@tagg8233 why is that?
More “PS2”
@@tagg8233 It doesn't really. Again, it's a one off setting at the start of your journey, and it really doesn't take much more time to set.
The mirrors are stored in the drivers profile in the Polestar too.
Very fair comparison. I think the fact the polestar 2 even comes close to the TM3 is praiseworthy. No-one can beat Tesla’s charging network, so if you want that, theres no discussion left. Personally, I would pick the PS2 because I think it’s a beautifully designed, premium looking beast of a car, sure it doesn’t do as much or go quite as far, or as fast, but it’s still plenty for me.
Bruce Kennedy I’ve ordered one which is about to arrive. If I needed to drive long I would choose a diesel over a Tesla. The Polestar goes long enough for my family to cover 99% of our trips without having to charge away from home. It fits our bill quite nicely, even with three kids in the back it will do fine 👍🏻
@@salamandur I'm so pleased for you and very jealous! I spent some time with a show model last year (static, no driving sadly) and I fell in love with it. Every inch is so well conceived. Now the reviews are in, the driving experience seems to be exactly what it promised to be. So for me personally it is quite literally the perfect car. You will love it.
Bruce Kennedy thanks! I drove one of the car last week when they were on a road tour in Norway. It did not disappoint at all. Perfectly comfortable ride even with Performance Pack, would even love to make it stiffer. Its what it seemed to be, and even better in my opinion. Cant wait to get mine and start the 10 hour drive back home :)
Victor Hugo Dont know about all of that, but it beats most of the options ICE and electric out there 👌🏻👌🏻
@Victor Hugo Has the PS2 been crash/safety rated by any of the government or insurance agencies yet?
Been watching reviews of the Polestar 2 for the past few days and almost every reviewer a year ago said they would prefer the M3. But then this year post another video saying they changed their mind and much prefer the Polestar 2. Guess the OTA updates really helped it out this year. But for me, Polestar 2, just looks more fun and less hassle. And those pixel headlights, wow, amazing for night driving.
Not everything is about how fast it accelerates ! Most people buying these kinda cars are not going to be drag racing them down the motorways. The Polestar makes more sense, its cheaper, has better quality inside -(where it really needs to be of better quality) had a proper drivers display. Not every little thing controlled through 500 submenus, such as a way to just to open a glove box or temp control ?? old school adjustments will be more user friendly to most drivers.
Lol in 99% of ways it's worse.
Its really that simple.
There is only one reason to get the polestar....if you want to be different. It's a legitimate reason, but it's the only one.
I do love the Polestar looks outside and a bit the materials used inside above my Tesla 3 SR+, but my impression is that a SR+ is a better buy than a Polestar 2. I have driven a latest version of the Volvo V70, which I loved, but was really positively surprised by the Tesla 3 driving manners and seating. Not to mention the unbeaten Supercharger network, which makes driving a feast without range anxiety, even with my modest lower range SR+
@@mgvanmiddelkoop I think the superchargers are a game changer and noone can touch Tesla while they are the only ones with these. Nice to hear someone who has a Tesla being honest and fair about material etc not being maybe as good as the Polestar. I think that you may be right, the driving manners and supercharging to be fair probably do mean, that at the moment the Tesla 3 is a better car than the Polestar. Not sure about reliability as both cars age, I dare say the Polestar will have the better build quality and thus maybe less problems as they age etc, however I guess this is something yet to be seen.
I really like the Polestar's interior. The problem with Tesla's interiors is that they are so minimalist that they feel unfinished or incomplete.
Yash Gulave one of the reasons I bought a model 3, is the minimalistic design. When I get into a car with loads of buttons, especially on the steering wheel, I get total information overload and miss the simplicity of the Tesla.
Having driven the Model 3 for a year, stepping into a traditional car with screens and dials all over the place is like going back in time. The simple design in the Model 3, and the level of automation allows far fewer distractions, and long drives are so much less tiring.
The problem with Teslas is that they are so minimalist that they look unfinished or incomplete ... fixed that for you.
I drive a Tesla Model 3P and have 2 x 240 km round trips for work each week. Like many people I am working more from home. Although there is a supercharger within 10 km I do 90% of my charging at home - rooftop solar and off-peak grid. Costs are minimal. To be fair to the Polestar 2 many owners will be able to do that, so superchargers are not a deal maker/ breaker for people who don't do regular long trips. Prospective buyers should understand this. The Model 3 is the best car I have owned but the Polestar looks like an excellent proposition and well priced without the performance extras.
I have a 3 and one thing it seems most of the reviewers don't get, is the voice commands. You say everything has to be done though the one screen, but most of my interactions with the cars controls are with voice commands.
It's probably a preference thing. I have a 3 too but I never use voice commands and just wish I had buttons
@@te86a but a reviewer should test it and tell you it's there.
@@markjames2338 This is true
THIIIIIIS! And you can change the volume on the wheel! Nothing not to like.
100% agree, I use the voice commands for almost everything on my Model 3.
Model 3 is the car for the tech enthousiast to buy. Who likes tech features and welcomes a product which isn’t finished but is improving like software.
Polestar 2 is the car for the traditional carbuyer who values thinks like quality, dealership relationships and conventional things like buttons and a driver display.
You can’t go wrong which ever you pick in my opinion.
I disagree, while the tesla has lot‘s if modern tech aswell, the infotaiment of the polestar is more modern and tecky. It‘s the first car with google, if i‘m not mistaken
What a word salad.
You don’t have any real polestar dealers (they ain’t sold at your typical volvo dealer) and from a family that have had the latest xc90 T8 and model x and which both had problems that had to be fixed at service centers, the volvo leaves you at some rental place and hopefully you get something decent, in our case an c-class 🤷♂️ whilst tesla provides you with another tesla. At one point they even went to our home, took our car and left an replacement. That is quality of service and worth a lot.
I ordered a model 3 because of the vision of the company.
@@hsvcommodore4111 If you compare the two infotainment side by side, Tesla is undoubtedly by far the most advanced. The Tesla has had google maps and spotify for years. The Tesla is updated constantly and also has, voice control, You Tube, Netflix, racing games, platform games, caraoke, dash cam viewer, camp mode, dog mode, romance mode, sentry mode.....
Charging a Polestar 78kWH battery from 10% to 80% in an hour with 50kW? You are a dreamer....
I think he meant 150kW charger
He meant 50kw. It will do 50kw in an hour. Towing efficiency would be interesting too.
Great to see a new EV on the road!, but the PS2 is almost 300kg heavier than the Tesla which will have a negative effect on range etc. The key factor though is the Tesla Supercharger Network which is a game changer!
and handling. We thought when Tesla released their cars that they were heavy due to the batteries, turns out they did a great job making them as light as possible. Everything else thats been released from the legacy makers has so far been quite a bit heavier than the comparative Tesla when size is compared
The Tesla Network is a major factor. However some people won't need it as most Journey's are less than 100 miles - for example me ... I don't need autopilot and I don't do more than 100 mile round trips (or one way stays) more than twice a year. For that any EV that does 200miles is more than enough for me.
And I'm very OCD with my cars, so build quality inside and out is a major factor for me when picking a car.
I'll give up a little range and the Tesla network for a more solid car that feels more premium for my sub £50k.
The IONITY Network is catching Tesla up very fast 350Kw chargers too.
@@kevinashurst634 Quite right however, at the risk of sounding like a Tesla fan boy, there are some caveats with Ionity.
1. No EV can charge at 350KWh, Tesla superchargers have an average charge speed of 150kW with V3 at 250kW (All Model 3 & all new S & X)
2. Whilst they are rolling out more chargers, Ionity are still at only 200, whilst Tesla are at 500+ & growing at a similar rate. There is a question mark against their reliability.
3. Cost - Tesla charge 24p kWh flat rate, Ionity charges 69p kWh (without a subscription), That's >187% increase!
The more teslas are sold the more superchargers they build.
the polestar is pretty cool, great to have other options for more EVs!
Ordered a Polestar last week as have 4 of my colleagues. We all went PS2 simply because the lease rates on Tesla are so much higher here in the UK. For us the T3LR was £150 / month more! That makes the Tesla way off budget.
I’m not a big fan of Tesla’s “minimalist” interior or it’s quirky exterior but still would have had one because of its performance and charging network. However at the end of the day, the Tesla with an almost identical window price have obviously not worked out a deal with the lease companies. That to me is a major oversight.
How much is the polestar to lease?
Horizon301 we were £555 for a 4 year lease with 20k miles a year with full maintenance included.
Horizon301 through LeasePlan, they appear to have the best deal for the first 600 cars.
Polestar 2 for me. The interior is leagues ahead and more practical. Not having to do everything via a giant ugly screen is a big plus. Convenience of a hatchback and the unmatchable safety features and record of what is essentially a Volvo product. Do I need to accelerate at warp speed. No.
Teslas are the safest cars ever tested!:)
It will be interesting to see how they compare when it comes to safety. I have a feeling that the Polestar will be exceptional.
Have you gotten a chance to drive them? Car industry is moving to a point where buttons will no longer be needed and just a touchscreen would do the job. Look at it like this, Apple removed the headphone jack and people were confused. It seemed that they removed it years to early but moving forward years later and now every new phone does not include the headphone jack. All I am trying to say is that if you do live on for 5+ more years, expect cars to soon only have giant ugly touchscreens and the fewest of buttons/switches. But hey you might lease it for 3 years and not own the car for yourself. Depends on the person, but if you haven’t had the chance to compare them both in person, do so.
@@SevenSieteSeven not just the headphone jack, they literally got rid of all the buttons with the release of the first iphone, first everyone was shocked, few years later it's the standard.
how long have you been working in car design for Volvo ?
Went P2
Hatchback - for doggo
Towbar - for trailer which is braked.
3 years servicing (at any Volvo dealer), 3 years breakdown cover, 3 year warranty (battery 8 years). Plus if I take it to my local Volvo dealer I get a courtesy car and they pick mine up.
Volvo quality with more car like interior design.
Though, the Tesla LR and Performance I test drove for a day each were totally quick, but the build quality wasn't the best.
Supercharger network is incredible on the long trip I did, but nearest one from me is 60 miles, don't often drive that far.
"3 years servicing (at any Volvo dealer)," that's not true polestar 2 will be serviced by "approved workshops" the position of volvo dealers it's pretty clear especially in USA and Canada where they already said they won't service the polestar EVs .
@@MrPikkoz I live in the UK. That's what we get here
Evs do not need servicing, this is just a con. Tesla does not require you to service your car for warranty purposes. Volvo has nothing to do with Polestar they are separate companies owned by Geely.
@@raymondsmith9936 if the vehicle has brakes, they will need checking at least annually and eventually replacing, same with tyres, air con system, safety restraint systems etc. To believe a Tesla never needs servicing or any vehicle is a bit worrying.
The Tesla model S I have needs servicing annually for brake caliper check, brake fluid replacement every 2 years, and air con every 2, tyre rotations etc... To comply with Tesla's recommended schedules and common sense when doing 20k + miles a year in it. Whilst it's been a reliable vehicle, it has only needed a new set of pads, couple of tyres, caliper cleaning (lots of grit on roads here in winter) and usual air filter replacements.
The main issue has been finding a garage that understands the vehicle.
Only reason I am switching is a wanted a smaller car with a hatch with decent acceleration and I hopefully won't have to do as much driving in next few years thanks to the new way of doing meetings that's come with Corona. I am going to miss the super charging network.
Polestar is jointly owned by Volvo and Geely, but yeah in the end Geely.
@@davidfrank1344 each car does have an annual check after the third year, a mot. I own a M3P, no servicing required, brakes should last 80,000 miles. Tesla recommended replacing battery coolant fluid after 5 years, but not warranted.
Great review, thanks! I'd still go for the Polestar for the look and the quality.
When do you people stop putting similar evs against each other, like real compatators? Start putting them against cars that they are really taking market shares. ICE cars like the bmw 3 series look very bad against either of the cars in the video.
I think ICE cars just aren't that interesting anymore. Near future could go more and more into EVs while ICE vehicles just vanish somewhere.
Agreed my next car will be ICE just because of economics but in 4 years I expect to be in a full ev. I don't see ICE lasting until the government ban in 2035 (I think that's the new UK target)
@@philipmumford7871 Please report back after 4 years, seems like the economics are not that good. You have to expect higher depreciation than normal. In 4 years way less people want to buy your used ice-car even if in good shape.
@@1kruxi hybrids...
@@jamendetvarjukul Hybrids still have a ice. They will give you the taste of an ev and let you will regret not going all in in the first place.
Polestar nicer design
@@markplott4820 but breaks whats the car again ahh boring tesla
@@markplott4820 if you consider design alone the tesla is nicer. But i didnt say any about their performance. So yes they have great performance. But in my own perspective the polestar is nicer.
Also, a manual adjust for a steering column (in a $50k+ car no less) means no steering column memory and no easy entry mode. I don't recall the last time I saw a car in this price range without a power adjustable steering column.
Must be an American thing, most German car don't offer this at this price
@@tiloalo It seems to be about the point it appears on German cars. My 330 was manual, my 535 was powered.
My base Lexus (an RX back before the NX existed) and near-base LIncoln (MkC).
In all cases, it was part of the "easy entry" mode as well, where the wheel would move up and in and the seat down and back to accommodate different drivers who could then use driver memory (in the BMWs case, it would also adjust that memory based on the key used).
@@jerrylove865 c class also don't have this (or maybe as an option) which is more the level of the model 3. It doesn't seems to be a must on this category
Fair review. As a long standing fan of Swedish cars my heart lusts after the Polestar, but I’d buy a Tesla - although I’d wait for the model Y for better practicality.
@@markplott4820 Yeah, I know. But both Polestar models to date, like the Volvos they share platforms with, have been designed and engineered in Sweden. That just about qualifies them as Swedish as far as I'm concerned.
The Polestar has the looks built quality and interior. The Tesla has everything else.
I disagree with the looks. I think Tesla looks much better. And yeah, interior isn’t as good. But build quality people say it’s bad, yet it’s somehow rated the safest car in the world right now 🤷🏻♂️
Polestar has better hifi, surround cameras, Android Auto with Car Play coming soon, will have much better customer service. I have a Tesla.
Killer (possible) App is self driving Tesla say they are on the cusp .. hmm maybe who knows BUT you do know volvo is not there at all so if both are equal this for me is a killer in Teslas favor.
@@ipb1966 I disagree with the speaker comment, what Tesla did was hire engineers from the leading speaker companies and asked them to find the best unbranded solution available, rather than pay over the odds for branded speakers. The birds eye view is a software update that Tesla has committed to providing. Tesla has the known how to build their own interface and do not need to pay Google or Apple and can pivot more quickly based on customer needs, like what they did with sentry mode. Agreed with customer service, however, I do not believe Polestar has a service centre just yet? I have a Tesla too, EVs all round.
@@steve.k4735 one day your Tesla car has the potential to make you money, therefore, it changes from an asset that depreciates quickly to a commodite that generates income. Also Tesla has said that they will likely stop selling cars to the public and instead grow the Tesla Network.
Put the deposit down on the Polestar Feb 19 but got bored waiting (childish I know) and bought the Tesla 3P - no regrets and build quality issues over exaggerated imo- I was lucky though, got mine on 30/09/19 and qualified for government grant of £3500 at that time bringing nett cost down to under £51k.
It's pretty laughable watching these reviewers all going around tapping panels and measuring gaps in panels with a micrometer. Just drive the damn thing and you'll never regret it.
Brian not really. Tesla’s quality is worse than that on lower end fords. Some people don’t like paying over £20,000 for a car with poor workmanship. Certainly at the 50k range you would be buying a top of the range 5 series or A6 to which Tesla can’t compete with. Now remember that the model s and X are no better and cost more than an S Class and 7 series with the X costing over 100k in Bentley price territory. That’s why Tesla quality is an issue.
@@Horizon301. owning a Tesla I can speak first hand to say I have had trouble free driving with no issues to speak of. The whole quality thing is just buzz words with that the media was feed. Just the same as The Polestar is being touted as a Chinese made car, as surely it does not matter which country it is made in. I had Range Rover prior to my M3P that that had a few problems and my Audi Quattro before that, I ended up rejecting under the sales of goods act as it broke down 3 times in 6 months of ownership. At the end of the day most cars have issues, surely it is how responsive the manufacture it at correcting them that is important.
Raymond Smith that’s why I didn’t mention that at all, Tesla owners know what they are getting into and in general they aren’t going to be any more reliable as they tend to have other issues which don’t make up for the lack of moving parts compared to an ICE vehicle. My point was that the interior quality for example is awful, cheap, nasty materials for the most part. At the price point they operate in, you would have a car full of wood, metal, high quality plastics and the finest leather. Just remember that the model x is literally in Bentley territory in terms of pricing. Also Tesla’s warranty might as well be 2 years anyway, just like a German car, I wouldn’t keep it past that point as stuff will go wrong I imagine. If you don’t care for quality than have at it but personally it’s why I only like German cars, huge difference between any brand and that offered by VW Group and BMW. All of these cars we have had from said manufacturers usually have had 0 issues and required 1-2 services and that was it. I would personally like to see the minimalist interior gone and better materials used, right now is like the typical American cars that didn’t sell well in the UK for the same reasons. Take Chevy and American ford models.
@@Horizon301. I am 2 years and 50k miles into our M3P and still haven't had any issues related to Tesla. I guess I will have to get it serviced at some point in the next 50k miles but it really is super low on maintenance/issues in my (anecdotal) experience. Also, you can get a Bentley SUV for $100k? If so that is news to me.
With the latest software Update on Tesla, it now has the option to use side cameras, to get brilliant camera overview of surroundings in reverse.
I own a TM3 and yes, it's gotten better, but I think the 3D overview in the Polestar looks like a better, more useful solution. I could easily imagine it coming in a software update from Tesla at some point.
@@Jramskovk lucky you
I've watched many reviews of the Polestar and the Tesla. This is by far the most comprehensive and objectively fair one.
Yeah, I've mentioned it as well. Seems like a lot of youtubers just like to hear themselves talk about a car for 10 minutes instead of delivering clear and correct information.
The comfort is only bad because the dampers are on a firm mode. Get rid of those dampers or set them in a comfortable setting, and the Polestar will be as comfortable or maybe even more comfortable than the Model 3. To me, buying a car is also a feeling, and to me the Tesla feels boring and soulless.
I don't like how the whole interior looks, I don't like the way the indicators work and how it disengages autopilot every time you change lanes (at least in non full self driving variants). My Golf can resume Travel assistant automatically, why can't the Model 3? So you'll hear the autopilot on and off sound way too often. Which is bloody annoying. Yes I have driven thr Model 3. Except for the performance and the quick steering I wasn't impressed.
When I sit in the Polestar I feel like I am in a cool new car. It looks good inside and out. When I sit in the Model 3 I feel like I am in an Apple store, with a table and a screen on a stick. It just has a steering wheel because it needs one. And before you start shouting range and superchargers:
1: You ideally don't use superchargers on a daily basis if you have a home charger setup, and when you don't, you use whatever is closest. You lot are Contradicting your typical anti-ICE argument of "I can charge from home and never need to stop at a station anymore"
2: where is the usual "commute is only 30 miles" excuse that you always use against ICE cars? The range of the Polestar is still above avg.
I’ve recently driven the Polestar 2, and the suspension on the Öhlins dampers were set in standard setup. Perfectly fine comfortwise, I could maybe set it up a bit more stiff for my liking. Loved the drive, and I’m waiting for mine in a month. With PP, leather interior, tow hitch.
@@salamandur I don't want to even listen to this review. Another Brit complaining about Volvo suspension and handling is just plain annoying. If you have big wheels on Volvo with the recommended high tire pressure, you'll get harshness. Smaller wheels and a pound or two softer on the tire pressure, Volvo rides pretty much like most European cars, maybe softer.
But even in the setting in this review, there was body roll in the corners... make it softer and it'll be worse.
Really good review thanks. I thought I was going mad with lots of journo's saying the Polestar 2 was better than the model 3. Yes it has a nice interior, but having looked at both, that's the only area where it's got something on the Tesla. Then you come along and say the exact thing I was thinking - the quicker, 300kg lighter, more technically accomplished, better handling car with better range and better charging infrastructure is the better car. Glad I'm not mad...
Nicer interior
nicer exterior, better build quality, better connection through Google, handling is debatable based on different reviews. Charging infrastructure Tesla yes. I think everyone knows that Elon wants to have auto companies catch up, he can add value through software, battery farms etc and then its off to Mars we go
Minor issue : "Everything is on the touch screen" : no... !
There are 2 controls, each 3 way on the steering wheel that are not labelled. These are context sensitive buttons which means they have multiple different actions which actually make things easier. The default is auto-pilot control and sound volume/voice commands. Of course, you see they have no labels , but how many people actually read the tiny print on their steering wheel controls in other cars when you use them - you know where they are.
I personally don't think the Tesla 3 is ideal with regard to screen in front of you, but like any car, I am used to it now after 1000 miles of driving and just "obvious".
Tom55data and the warnings are above
The lack of an actual cockpit with dials on the Tesla is enough to make me hate it. I prefer to look straight and down to see my speed and not to the left and down.
Go drive one
Its the same distance to look....
@@raymondsmith9936 not if you have an HUD :)
What is it you want to see? The speed is is nice big numerals (about 1.5 cm high block numerals) that take no real focus to observe. The only other thing really is battery charge remaining that you need/want to look at every "once in a while", maybe. The rest of the stuff you are used to monitoring in an ICE vehicle, there just isn't an analog; no oil temp, oil pressure, coolant temp*, boost pressure, tachometer, battery/alternator voltage, and whatever others I'm forgetting... That stuff just doesn't exist because it has no purpose in an EV. I like that it's not behind the steering wheel, because I like the steering wheel at its lowest setting in most cars and frequently (not always) the wheel is right in my line if sight to the speedometer, so for me this isn't just a neutral thing and getting used to it by driving 100 miles or so, it's actually better. The drop from "looking at the road" to the speedometer in most cars (where the speedometer is in the binnacle behind the steering wheel is in the neighborhood of 15° for me; it's about 22° in my Model 3. It just isn't as big a deal as it is made out to be, and it seems it's never from anyone that actually drives a Tesla on a regular basis and gets used to it (it took me maybe 20 miles of driving to get used to it). Just because it's not what you're used to doesn't make it worse.
*There is a battery coolant temperature indicator that lets you know if your regenerative braking will be limited prior to the battery warming up in cold temperatures. All the things you need to know as the driver are in the upper corner nearest the driver.
It’s worth mentioning cost in relation to public charging - superchargers are just 24p/kWh whereas ionity or other 250KW chargers can be over twice the price, without the reliability
@@markplott4820 lol! This is nonsense. If Tesla were paying 24p/kWh in the UK then they are: A. being totally ripped off and B. making extremely bad business decisions. They will most likely be paying between 12 and 15 p/kWh.
So great video & thanks for posting it The Polestar 2 looks like a traditional ICE car to me! I drive a Tesla Model 3 & I wouldn’t trade it in for the PS2, but I’m happy that Polestar is coming on board with an electric vehicle, but I don’t think it will be comparable to the Tesla model cars! So if you’re not driving a Tesla you simply don’t understand how really great they are, as there’s simply nothing on the road that is comparable to them at this moment in time & the fact that it’s the minimalist design of the interior set up that I like & it took mere minutes for me to get use to the center display screen & now I’m not bothered at all! So I don’t know why we need a display screen behind the steering wheel like traditional cars, because this isn’t a traditional car & it will soon be fully autonomous, so what do I care about watching the road when the car is doing the driving? So I do hope Tesla gives us the 360° view in the future & I hope that they also incorporate the augmented reality I do like that, the other thing I would like for Tesla to do is to make the car more interactive like we interact with Siri or Alexa! Those are some features I hopeTesla incorporates in the future, I also want a car with an attitude & not just on the road, but when I imagine if I asked my car to do something & it asked me why? That would be hilarious!LOL!🤣🤣🤣
I've driven Tesla Model 3 a couple of times. It's a nice fun car with sporty feel, but at that price point I expect more than just the (overkill) hard numbers it has to convince me. So I'll gladly trade in some range and maximum speed of ~260 km/h for a 'slower' ~210 km/h Polestar 2 with better looks, better interior, better build quality, extensive Volvo support network, more towing capacity, etc. Currently autopilot is only slightly better than ACC + lane assist. The "soon fully autonomous" has been going on for years; even if it's released this year it'll take a few more years to get past all the regulations in Europe. So I wouldn't hold your breath 😉
Probably the best thing about the Polestar 2 though, is that we are now steadily getting more serious alternatives, so there are actual choices besides the Tesla Model 3. Competition is good 🙂
Rik H I hear you & good luck with that!👌😎
Well Tesla needs some competition. My wife hated the Tesla because of the screen, and no tactile controls.
No-one in the UK is handy with a wrench, but I am pretty nifty with a spanner.
Thanks for a good review, I would consider the Polestar.
Yeah, my wife will choose to drive the van over the Tesla because of the non-traditional controls. It’s too different for her to be comfortable in.
Very nice review, well explianed and fair.
Only minor thing i'd disagree with is regarding the space in the back: the seating position is lower in the Model3 so you have a bit more head space, but it's way less comfortable to sit in. Just look at the seating position (4:39) and the angle at which the legs are forced to bend due to the lower seat.
5:26 The price difference is inflated by the Polestar just making the cut for the government discount and the Tesla doesn't. What if you're perfectly happy with the non-performance versions of these two cars? It's not that they're slow or anything. They both apply for the discount I assume?
Not a fair comparison, you are comparing a 2 with a 3?
Very good! hahah
Tesla because they aren’t just a car, they are changing the whole car industry. As a founding of a tech startup, just have to respect the Tesla brand more. Volvo would abandon this if it fails to sell. You know Tesla is all in.
+ Superchargers and werid they are comparing Model 3 Performance, because Model 3 LR would be so much better choise to compare to. Also - is the Polestar even AWD?
Lauri L The range is just better for North Americans that need the extra range. Europeans can survive with less range no problem.
Volvo won't abandon this. They are committed to stop the production of ICE cars within a few years.
1.) You fail to mention how much cheaper the Standard Range Model 3 is than the entry Polestar 2. Like seriously ignoring all variants is kind of... wrong.
2.) “ disappointing seats” is subjective. I have amazing bucket seats in my Lexus, I found the Tesla model 3 sears to be even more comfortable. Talk about being knit picky
3.) I’m pretty sure comparing the performance model 3 vs the “ performance “ polestar is wrong... and is more on the Long Range Model 3 option, and then compare those prices.
4.) you fail to recognize the fact that one car makes you think about strippers every time you tell someone the name of it.
5.) oh and 360 cameras... dumb. Tesla can park it’s damn self.
The stripper car ain’t bad looking. How many are really going to sell tho?
Cheaper versions of the polestar 2 are coming.
Cypress Van Horn don’t trust anything named after a stripper. And overall ... drop in the pond, Tesla demand is larger than they can actually produce
I think Tesla managed to prove that, it is a reliable car. The others need long time to prove the same. I would go for the Tesla it least it is very well known to all by now.
Looking to the left in the Tesla to see your speed is easier than looking down because you can use your peripheral vision.
..or in my case, to the right.
John Glennie Same with me. Even tho I haven driven a 3 or Y but I’ve been in a Model S. One wasn’t a Performance the other one was. Also been in a Model 3 Performance. There all awesome.
Another very good review, thank you. I wonder if the availability of Volvo service centres compared to Tesla Centres is also worth consideration?
Not the first review to point out the manual adjust of the steering column as an advantage, but how so? If you are the only drive of the car then you will only ever adjust once, so who cares how it is adjusted? If you have multiple drivers, then you have to adjust all the time, but because the Tesla does that electronically, it means steering column, and mirrors are auto-adjusted to whichever driver happens to be in the car (along with pretty much every other preference from air con and radio settings, to drive dynamics). So - how is manual adjustment of steering column or wing mirrors and advantage please?
Model 3. Charging infrastructure is critical to EV acceptance.
I don't know about the UK, but the Electrify America 150kW to 350 kW charging sites are going up at a breath taking pace. In just 20 months over 400 of these charging sites have gone up and cover about 80% of the interstate, with 100s more coming in the next 2 years. In my metropolitan area, there are 38 CCS fast charging sites of all types, and 8 Supercharger charging sites. Maybe 2 years ago the charging infrastructure was the elephant in the room, but that elephant is more like a kitty cat now.
I've had a Leaf for four and a half years now and never had an issue. What would be more of a deal breaker for me is build quality - the Model 3 screams corner cutting from every centimetre and the horror stories of unpainted parts, failed brakes and people locked out of their cars would be unacceptable in a fifteen grand car, never mind a forty grand one.
I guess you and every other Tesla fan boi drives MUCH more than 500km per day and finds it as the single and most important argument to trash a brilliant car as the Polestar 2. Fans will be fans....
@@astroplutonium It's a practical constraint. If you can't go visit you mom for Christmas because you will run out of charge then you won't buy the car. You have to have a charging infrastructure or you won't sell the car
@@TimothyParker1 In Norway both networks are more or less equally advanced so your point does not apply to me.
If i have to go visit my mom for Christmas i can wait 15 minutes more at a 150KW Ionity charger and have a nicer (in my opinion) car.
Enjoy your Tesla :)
Nice narration.. pole star are poles apart... I just booked a tesla... they said will be delivered online only.. me in uber now.. lol
I've had my M3P for 2 years now. Still as excited as the day I got it every time I get in. Such an amazing car!
Yellow seat belts!! I’m in!!
actually they are GOLD... to match the tyre valve dust caps!
Good try from Polestar......but that thing is a bit porky. And are the performance pack etc. included in the quoted price? I would still go for a Tesla, but at least Polestar has a start on something good, unlike almost all the Germans, Japanese and U.S big boys.
for me it's the Tesla, clear winner for obvious reasons... better tech, performance, charging speed & fast charging availability, range, efficiency, sales numbers, safety and the list goes on :D
What a great review, at last the charging is also addressed, for anyone wanting to use an EV just as they used their ICE car there is only one option......the Tesla. 100,000 UK miles over 6 years in my Model S P85 and I use a Zero SRF motorbike as well so get to try the public charging. Public charging 50:50 its working. Tesla 100%. You want to drive local and you have a home charger, go for it otherwise Tesla.
Agree 100%, the Tesla charging network is amazing. Nothing else like it. If you're planning to drive anywhere away from home it's got to be a Tesla.
I still struggle to even understand why anybody would consider anything else. Just imagine you could only get fuel for your ICE at "compatible" pumps and those only work 50% of the time, are hard to pay for, etc. I mean why?
@@808GT And have to have a subscription for some, and have a dedicated card for others...
yes, the charging network in the UK is an utter shambles.... just like most other things now in the UK sadly.
I have a Model 3 and it’s a breath of fresh air to see a review not totally bias and in favour of the Polestar like every other review I’ve seen 🙂👍
Great video :-) As a Tesla owner I´m still glad that new electric cars are coming. We all have different priorities and the more people driving an electric car the better for the environment.
agreed, we also own a tesla but it is brilliant seeing new EVs coming to the market
Less people buying new cars the better. Neither drilling or mining are good for the environment
Definitely gonna give the P2 a test drive when it’s available.
M3 still wins for me because the experience is just unlike anything else. I’ve literally driven my M3 more than triple how much I drove my previous car in the same period. Any reason to drive and I’m there.
Another well-balanced and informative review. Thank you for that. It will be the Polestar for me when I switch to all-electric.
I’ll will go for polestar 2 any way! I don’t care about 1 second 0-60, polestar in a mutch better car for quality image and for safety
I used to be a long time Volvo owner. I’m not sure Volvo / polestar is known for quality (at least not reliability) and the rest of the industry has caught up on safety.
I’m fairly sure that last year, the Tesla was the safest car ever built? Might be wrong idk
@@henrikduff4709 you are right
Polestar on design, interior and 'HMI' (the interface and displays). Tesla on engineering. If Tesla upped their design and got more European they'd close a clear opportunity for other car makers.
At the end of the day design is entirely subjective. I happen to like the Tesla Model 3 design a lot more than the Polestar 2. What is objective though, is the built quality. Tesla has so many quality issues like massive inconsistent panel gaps and misalignment. Whereas the Polestar 2 is very well put together!
Fawk Yu Art is subjective, design can be made objective. You can measure ease of use, for example. It’s what I do for a living.
Having driven these cars extensively for over a week I find your review to be quite biased in favor of the Tesla. Polestar's interior and exterior quality is superior. The Polestar is, and most would agree, the best looking car. For everyday driving the Polestar is the easiest to get in and out of, it's easier to load in and out of, you sit considerably higher; which is a plus. The Tesla drives better and the comfort is noticably better. The charging network is huge here in Norway, which is why we'll probably go with the Tesla in the end.
Model 3 Long Range is cheaper than the Polestar 2 and still faster. It's a really unfair comparison to use the performance model as a comparison when it doesnt qualify for a subsidy which the LR does, while the LR still beats polestar 2 on every single objective metric.
Two critical things missed here. If you have sat in the rear of a Tesla model 3 then you will find that the extra headroom comes at the cost of a terrible seat angle - your thighs are unsupported and it is intolerable after 30 minutes or so. The headroom is less in the Polestar, but if you are 6 feet or less you will be fine - more than 6 feet and it is not going to be comfortable as you will need to adopt a slightly slumped position. Hence both are compromised on rear comfort. The second thing is the “dog issue” - if you have a dog then you need the hatch (and don’t forget the split/fold rear seats in the Polestar for those trips to the recycling centre). I have no idea why Tesla chose to go with a boot instead of a hatch - the model Y will fix that, but it is not available in the UK until 2022. I have a lot of experience of the UK charging network as I have had an i3 pure EV (not REX) for the last 3 years - and yes it is a mess but not unusable - and Polestar have teamed up with all of the major players to provide a unified access service (which was missed in the review - this was not playing fair What Car). However since I do 98% of my charging at home it really isn’t as big a deal as everyone makes out but I agree that Tesla definitely do this better. I will be buying the Polestar....being able to transport the dog is a “killer feature”
A fair review. I totally agree with the result. Volvo cannot do suspensions. As Volvo owner I should know.
I’m glad the reviewer is honest about Volvo’s crappy suspension. 90% of the others reviewers usually just fail to criticize the harsh and loud suspension.
The Performance has Ohlins dampers, cant say it made any sounds when I drove the Polestar
@@Wasabi9111 how about Volvo's newer air suspensions on the XC90? Still crappy?
Matt Mayer when I was looking for a comfortable highway suv last yr I test drove all of the competitors w air suspension and the xc90 just didn’t have that Luxurious highway ride as the competitors. It was the loudest and harshest ride by far. But it did have the best interior space for its exterior size.
The suspensions on polestar 2 would have adjustable strength if you choose sport package. There’s even a guide in the handbook that have suggestions about their level (1-22) based on different usage like daily drive or track days.
The Model 3’s simplistic layout is my favorite part of the car. After I drive my Performance 3 and get into my Discovery 4 I always miss the simple interior of the 3. I wouldn’t ever buy a Polestar for the simple fact that it’s not a Swedish car, but instead it’s a Chinese Geely in a different shell. It’s made in China on a shared platform with internal combustion engine cars. That means it’s got a transmission tunnel when there’s absolutely no reason for there to be one as there’s no driveshaft. This shared ICE platform also leads to the Polestar being obese (several hundred pounds heavier) and it is awkwardly tall.
I much prefer a Model 3 because it also has access to Superchargers, is faster and better driving (3 uses double wishbone front suspension vs. struts in the P2), the Model 3 is capable of up to 250kW DC fast charging vs 150kW in the P2, and Autopilot is by far much more advanced than the Polestar 2’s driver assist. The Model 3 also goes much further per charge and the Model 3 has tons more luggage space.
Whoever at Volvo/Geely/Polestar has this asinine obsession with these MANUALLY adjustable Ohlins dampers needs to be fired. There’s literally nobody buying a Volvo or Polestar that is trying to get all up under the car to adjust the dampers by hand. There’s a reason the ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED DAMPERS that literally every other car with adaptive damping uses.
The P2, even with the performance package, is more of a direct competitor to the Model 3 LR AWD. That car is just as quick as the Polestar 2, but it’s substantially cheaper than the 2, while retaining the same fun to drive characteristics of the Performance 3 with the better ride quality of smaller wheels (18” or 19” wheels).
Do you have an iPhone? That is made in China also. I don't get why people come up with that excuse "that is made in China". In the age of globalization why does it matter where stuff is made? I don't think the PS2 has assembling quality issues, and has worse production quality than any european cars manufactured in Europe or in the states.
Sad to see that the Polestar only has looks. The Model 3 looks so smooth and aerodynamic for a reason.
Model 3:
Range
Charging
Tech
Comfort
Ease of use
Exciting to drive and blistering fast
Polestar 2:
Looks way better
Nicer interior quality
You forgot build quality. These swedes built the Polestar 2, you know the panels are in line, the paint won't peel off and the quality of materials and quality control.
Yes, the build quality is good. We'll have to see about long term reliability, but I have good faith in Volvo.
Ease of use in the model 3?? It's a whole new learning curve involved with getting a model 3 (because everything is controlled through that screen), a major factor.
Didn't really compare headlight technology, winter use, practical use of the trunk, fold down seats, or safety. (Extra mass can mean better safety in car/car collisions.)
ProfRCook Not even to mention those doorhandles. I’ll take the PS2 doorhandles any day of the week.
When will these car comparison RUclips hosts realize that not having buttons and knob adjustments ARE NOT negatives for us owners. In fact it's a major positive for this Model Y owner. The sleek minimalistic design was a major selling point for me. I did not was a traditional car interior design with a battery pack, which is what all of the other EV brands have been offering. This includes Polestar 2. So adding time in your videos to point out that these cars have knobs and buttons unlike a Tesla just reminds us of why we bought a Tesla in the first place. So thanks for making the difference known, but know that we could care less for those cars, their buttons, knobs and manual steering wheel adjustments.
I'd be more interested in the cheaper(est?) versions - compare those. I'm not so interested in the acceleration of top speed.
Here you go, based on what is for sale currently:
Vehicle Polestar 2 Tesla 3 Standard Range
Price £46,990 £40,490
Battery 78kw 50kw
Efficiency 3.7mi/kw 5.1mi/kw
Range 292 WLTP 254 WLTP
0-60 4.7s 5.3s
Safety TBC 5 star NCAP
Service Annually No servicing required
Warranty 3 years 8 years battery/motor
Motor 402bhp 349bhp
Charging 150DC 250DC
Network Public only Tesla Network + Public
Safety Pilot Autopilot
Autonomous None £6,800 (software)*
*Hardware included in base cost, can upgrade software at any time.
@goodfella21f
It depends on which one: 3.2-ish for the Performance version, 4.5-ish for the Dual Motor non-Performance, 5.0-ish for the currently-not-produced Long Range RWD, and 5.3-ish for the Standard Range Plus.
@goodfella21f not according to the UK Tesla website, the ling range is 4.4 I think and the performance is 3.2
@@toddwright662 correct and the standard range is 5.6s, but only available in the US
TM3 for sure - I like the looks of both cars but I prefer the huge front windscreen on the TM3 giving the driver exceptional forward vision.
0:14 When your girlfriend uses tinder!😂
ha ha ha ha - very sharp.
honestly the two cars are so close together that Im just glad theres competition. you're likely fine with either one, so pick based on personal preference. Tesla should not develop into a monopoly.
Measuring electric cars using 0 to 60 mph is outdated.Electric cars should be measured per kilowatt per hour. Electric cars aren’t like home appliances relying on someone else to provide the power. Tesla build quality may not match Volvo/ China with well over a 100 years of car manufacturing between them. But we’re they are years ahead, is they built a car and provided they mean to power it. Manufacturers need to invest in charging networks like Tesla
Kilowatt-hour*
That's like saying ICE cars should not be using 0-60. They should instead use miles per gallon.
Very objective review and focus on most of the important points. One minor point that I think is important is that all the settings from steering wheel column, seats, mirrors, and especially the air vents are all electronic, because the model 3 was designed to be a self driving car with automatic user profile detection. A future that the Polestar did not inspire to reach.
Now that the Polestar 2 has come out and other EV's are coming soon, the model 3 is needing a facelift.
Trunk? Wrench? Come on Doug - when did you become an Americanista? We're British - be proud of it. They're boots and spanners.
Seriously?
Really curious what other brands will add to this segment in the future. Model 3 needs more competition imo.
Had a M3P for 1 year now, would not have anything else. The superchargers are the game changer and it is such fun to drive. I like the uncluttered interior. One of the best features is not having to use the brake pedal driving across town.
TBH the difference in headroom at 4:38 doesn't seem that much. But how steep are your upper lefs in the Model 3?
Ill take the model 3 - anytime! Model interior is leaps ahead! And Tesla has the industries best quality on the stuff that matters most
IF you can wait, Model Y is a better car!
While understanding all the advantages of the Model 3 my experience with Tesla customer service has been horrendous. Since i believe the Polestar is a much prettier car and their customer support is more serious from my little experience, i bought the Polestar. I would never again own a Tesla unless my work bought one for me or something similar.
In Scandinavia, where i live, the Tesla has a better charging network, a better customer fan base and therefore a better resale value most likely (although Tesla is upgrading their models faster than most people change underwear), it has a more comfortable highway ride (it is an American car after all...)
On the other hand the Polestar looks far better than any Tesla, the quality of bodywork and interior is miles ahead of any Tesla car, the material quality is also a lot better, the Top model of Polestar 2 is far cheaper than the top model of Tesla Model 3 or Y without cutting too many corners. For me that i am not depended on a fast charging network and i trully despise the Tesla customer support, the clear choice is Polestar. But Tesla fans will disagree. Not that i care much....
4:40 did you miss that your knees are not suported at all wich will make long rides horrible!
All I noticed was just how much more headroom the Tesla had lol. This dudes a real Tesla fan boy. It’s a very nice car don’t get me wrong, but no one ever seems to mention all the tech on the polestar. There’s lots more standard kit than the Tesla that I can see.
@@wapmad Then why does the Polestar take extra money for performance package upgrades?
Biplab Kumar Ghosh for a start they should be comparing it the the Tesla 3 long range model. Not the performance one. Then the only big difference is the superior range of the Tesla. The performance pack will no doubt be brought very few people.
@@wapmad like what?
I've done plenty of long trips in my M3P and it's super comfy.
The PS2 is very cramped and the sharp edges on the console hurts if you put your leg against it.
M3P all day every day.
One is a docking station for your mobile phone on wheels, the other is a nice car that happens to be electric and built by a proper car company. I know which one I would have.
Have you driven both or pure speculation?
Right. I just put an order for my Tesla Model 3, LR. Based on superior AI and proven road record and charging capabilities. What does your "Proper Car Company" offer that would have allowed me not to spend an hour on a motorway waiting for the car to be charged up to 80%?
Yasser Khan you just proved my point by stating... “based by superior AI”. Who cares about that on a car? It’s a car, not an office, it’s supposed to drive it, not be driven in by the computers. But hey, each to their own.
Tesla Model Y is hard to beat, too. A lot of storage..similar to the Model S. Tesla is 10 years ahead of everybody else. The charging times for every other EV are deal killers. The private company chargers are too expensive. They are pricing buyers out of the market. Make your next car a tesla. The only car that makes financial sense in 2020 and beyond regardless of fuel source.
The main thing I like about the Tesla over the Polestar 2 is that I can actually buy a Tesla.
Polestar 2 is showing 3 dealers in America where I can buy it.
Tesla Model 3 is $46,990 in America for the "Long Range" model (even cheaper for the base model). Polestar 2 being displayed as $59,900 starting price.
The comparison should have been between the 3 LR and Polestar without performance bits.
For some reason all the press cars on offer from Polestar have the performance pack, so I suspect his hands were somewhat tied on this one.
Very good comparison and review. gives me something to think about especially since my delivery date on my M3 has changed 13 times in the last month. most recently from being 2 days from the current day to 9-13 week from now. Checked Polestar delivery available in June and it's June 26th. Only concern I have Is how readily is the charging network and a high speed (150w) one. I'm sure you can't use the Tesla supercharge
Good Review. Still the Model 3 for me but I do like the side mirrors and hatch of the Polestar.
This but whole mirror movement will not work at winter. Much easier to move heated inner mirror part.
First time I’ve ever heard the Model 3 seats called “disappointing”. I love them, especially in white
The breaks of the model 3 might be better the first time, but if you do the same test over you’ll see the polestar 2 is much more consistent in breaking time.
The real competitor is the Long Range, but for it's real non-arctic use, I'd get a Standard Range+. Lighter, rear wheel drive drives better. Spend the savings on FSD and entertainment pack and then some.
I have a model3P, it definitely drives like a sports car.
Yes, but quality? 🤔
Tyran Mathurin I test drove 2018 Model 3P for 2 hours. Searched the whole car. Apart from small panel gaps, interior was flawless. I was really surprised, because I have read different things on the internet.
@@TheTmat007 I have a Model 3 Performance, so does my dad and my little brother.
I have 30000km on mine, my dad got 70000km on his(includning two trackdays.) He have driven that distance in 18 months. THATS how addictive these things are.(his Porsche 964 have not moved an inch in that time....)
We have had zero problems. I will admit that the paint is too soft and too thin, and that I have a small rattle from the back seat(Tesla will fix it for free, I just haven't botherd yet) But I drive hard, and launch the car every single day at maximum power. Everything just works, and the infotainment and audio-quality is fantastic. Tesla got engineers from Bang & Olufsen to design the stereo.
I came to the same conclusion as Sandy Munro:
"The paint is bad, the interior quality could be better, but the electronics, suspension and drivetrain is so good it's laughable"
@@chrisalexandersb1748
Tesla's fit & finish is very sloppy! The company needs to learn how to correctly assemble or put cars together. Elon should consider sending his engineers for a factory tour at Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus, Audi, BMW, or Mercedes-Benz. That way they can see how real automotive engineers take pride in producing cars. Also, I'm not a fan of Tesla's habit of cutting corners (as cost-saving measures) in building cars. I'm not a fan of just a single screen inside a car (like in the Model 3 and Y), with almost all the car's functionality. Elon doesn't seem to care about Tesla's poor quality. Tesla will be DOOMED, if it does not improve the overall quality of it cars. Porsche has already outdone Tesla in a number of ways, with the Taycan. This is just the beginning. When legacy automakers really start to take EVs seriously, no one (except cult members) will accept Tesla's poor quality.
Tyran Mathurin I test drove a Taycan Turbo a couple of days ago, actually. Impressive car, but it did not kick as hard when accelerating as the Performance.(on the other hand after 100kph it goes better because of the gearbox). And oh my god the traction control were useless in the wet. The single screen is wierd at first, but after a while everything else just feels stupid. There are 4(!) screens in the Taycan, when there is zero reason to. There is a reason car makers are going over to 1 or 2 screens, it just works. But If I was spending that amount of money on a Porsche, it would be on a 911...... Teslas components are not the problem, American workers are. There are 7 faults per 10000 Model 3 produced in china. And my next Tesla will be made in Germany.
I mean I wouldn’t have used a performance model that the general population won’t buy including myself with a standard range or long range to compare. Seems like an honest review to both but I think the benefit surrounding either car is to buy for what you want. Overall nice quality for price and not a Tesla? Go Polestar. If you are looking to go more autonomous (Tesla I feel is leading since this is their huge initiative leading into the future) then buy a model 3 long range( you really don’t need the performance if your looking for cheaper and more range to “help” the environment.) Don’t buy one of these because you feel pressure by friends or family just test drive both and make a choice on “your” feel
Tesla, for the supercharger network alone, it’s a no brainer.
A few notes: the Model 3 performance and the Polestar 2 "performance" are not directly comparable. The Model Y LR is the direct comparison. In the U.S., the Teslas are less expensive. Also, if you're not comparing the Tesla white interior to the Polestar 2 interior then it isn't a fair comparison. The white interior is next level.
The Standard Range Plus starts at $38,000 in America which is significantly lower than entry level Polestar
comparing a Performance model 3 is only to make it more expensive than the PoleStar. Honestly nobody needs that much power. I have a Standard range +, absolutely no range anxiety with the supercharger network and way more performance than needed. I only drive in Chill mode because it is too powerful !
So comparing SR+ Model 3 with Standard Polestar would make more sense for the price. Tesla > Polestar. Then in terms of performance Tesla > Polestar. So very good car if you don't like Tesla but not better.
I'm in no way bashing you for your opinion...but....nobody NEEDS a Lamborghini, Ferrari, or GTR either yet people buy them. Of course a 500+ hp ev is unnecessary, but its my favorite car I've ever bought. And considering it puts a beat down on ANY other car that normally costs twice to three times as much...now that just makes me smile 😊
I would have the Polestar 2. The reason is the over reason why the Polestar is better than the Tesla Model 3, but not mentioned. The Tesla can only tow 910kgs. The Polestar can to 1500kgs. The other reason I have the Polestar. I what a car with a fully opening tailgate Not some Mickey Mouse letter box as found on the Tesla. If the Tesla did come with a tailgate the the choice would have been harder.
But towing devastates the range for electric cars and Polestar already has less range.
"fully opening tailgate"
⬆️ Which is still much smaller so, I don't follow you...
Lisa Rogers model y?
@@summertyme5748 yep, but at least you can tow more, which can make the difference between towing it all at once or not towing it / 2 trips? 🙃
what are you towing?
Those frameless mirrors are cool, but given the importance of aerodynamics, particularly for electric cars, how do they keep optimal air flow if the whole mirror assembly moves. I know it seems a minor thing, but mirrors are reasonably important for drag coefficient - e.g. that Honda-e claims a 6% drag reduction by replacing them with cameras.