Licitti 280Ah LiFePO4 DIY battery kit
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2023
- In this video we build and test the Licitti 280Ah DIY battery kit for the Gen 2 Battery Box
DIY Battery Kit: www.licitti.com/product/2040/
Licitti Battery Box 2000w Gen2: www.licitti.com/product/2000w...
Licitti Battery Box 1000w Gen1: www.licitti.com/heavy-duty-ac...
AC Charger www.licitti.com/product/20a-a...
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These are the "anderson style" connectors that work: amzn.to/3MS3K3Z
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Just want to say very nice video. I was able to follow along without any problems and you did a very nice job of explaining everything. I love the Licitti products. My gen 1 box goes with me everywhere every day in my truck. I have made several modifications to it to add a few options I wanted and it works great
I want their 300 amh Cyberbox!
This review offers valuable information and a real-world perspective on the product's usability and quality. It's a useful resource for those interested in DIY battery kits.
Thanks!
Love the dog making funny background sounds! 🙂
Thanks. If I could play fetch with him 24/7 he would somehow figure out how to fetch in his sleep. 🤣
Ha, I just did the same thing, except with a "compact" 300ah battery, had BT and a nice BMS. Saved money over separate cells and BMS. Plus it was already assembled, just pulled cells from battery box and slipped them into my Licitti.
Nice!
How do you charge your box? It seems to me that their bundled AC charger or solar will take forever and am trying to figure out if you can charge this box in a reasonable time off my generator if the grid goes down for days. Licitti offers a bundle with a 20amp AC to DC charger, but that seems slow from my limited understanding. I know they also offer a 30 amp charger for sale separately, but that seems kinda slow for this capacity battery as well. I have seen a LI-Time 40 AMP 14.6V AC to DC charger for $219 on Amazon. Any help would be appreciated.
Can you drop a link for the battery?
Great review!
Very nice and thorough review of this product. I have been watching the development of your reviews over time, and each review seems to be a little better than the previous review. I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers. Keep doing what you are doing.
Thanks for the kind words! Means a lot :) Give it some time, the channel growth is actually exponential right now according to the analytics. Future predictions look real good. Thanks
Very well done 😊 I didn't find my cells to be very far out of balance. I'm sure the BMS would have fixed it without the top balance.
I have the box and just built the battery using 304 cells. I didn't have their kit so i just did my best using thin flexible cutting boards. I like their product. I've asked them to sell the 3000 watt box without including batteries. Hope they will do so. I also think they could come up with an integrated ac charger. They say it adds too much cost. All in all...my 304 build turned this into a beast ...of course it is heavy!
That's awesome. I'm going to suggest they come up with a wheeled base option. They are getting heavy with these large cells. Thanks!
@BradCagle funny...I thought the same thing. I built my own box out of a wheeled tool box with 3000 watt inverter...in part to find a home for 4 relion 100 batteries I took out of my rv. Then they came out with their 3000 watt box which is way more professional than my build plus they have more functionality. They do listen to you and some of the other RUclips guys so you are helping them make their product offerings better. Thanks.
Awesome video! I have the battery box, I want that battery kit!
Thanks! It's a great kit. They are shipping some to their US warehouse, they will send me a link when they are ready to sell. I'm curious about the price.
The wires look the same as the wires in the Gen 1. I've used these and the 320 amp hour versions, and have the 320's in my gen 1. I'll be putting fiberboard in between mine. That said, the primary test was perfect and even the strap worked on the Gen1. I use a simpler BMS, it is not active and works fine with multiple versions of these batteries. I do not like the way you hooked up the BMS , as the method with the plug disconnected is safer for the BMS. Yes, way lower voltages. Interestingly, the kits I get from China (exactly what you have here, just repackaged, what you do is put the fiber board in between the cells (thats in the instructions. ) . The final product as you have done it (seems to be the way they want you to do it) has no ventilation at all ! At least one of the engineer's wanted you to have a ton of ventilation for the system with fans in the front and back with some versions. strange anomalies from what I'm seeing. That said, I really like this product.
Very nice 👌 👍
I had contacted Mike at licitti and asked him if the 304ah batteries would fit, and he told me they would and sent me a PDF file with instructions to assemble them. Now I just need to find the time to do it LOL
Your reviews are second to none Brad. Thanks mate.
That Licitti Gen 2 battery box is almost 100% - one little (perhaps not so little) capability is to allow several of these to sync their mains so you could parallel the mains to have 2, 4, 6, 8 etc. kW depending on how many boxes you string together. I hope Licitti read this comment - they have a winner here.
@BenMitro Thanks, that means a lot! Yeah these guys are doing some good stuff, and I'm glad they are paying attention. Would be really cool if it could do that. Also I think they should have a base with wheels option, with these 280 cells it's getting heavy. Thanks!
I am using their 50 amp input / output to tie two boxes together. I then use either inverter as needed. This seems to work as it discharges them at the same rate under my load conditions and charges both boxes back up via one solar input on one bax.
@@houstonstarbuck That is the best approach with what they have now. With the syncing suggestion, you would be able to run 4kW load as well as 2 x 2kW loads. (You could still tie the two boxes via DC to use one solar input). I sure hope they look into this as the flexibility of their battery box will be extended substantially.
@@BradCagle Good suggestion, it'd be up around 65lbs I guess.
@@BenMitro I'm curious how to sync the boxes to provide a 4kw load?
Very nice!
Thanks!
Technology is amazing these days.
Just got my 280AH cells and kit. My BMS is different from yours. They have restructure the B M S. The negative busbar is no longer next to the #2 negative wire but on opposite side on the BMS, upper corner. Therefore had to reverse the negative end panel so the markings are now on the inside of battery box. Had to mark this end panel manually to identify it as the negative end panel. The 5P wire is now attached to the BMS right next to the heavy #2 negative wire. Just below that are two separate temperature wires mounted. The B+ (red wire), the number 2 white wire, the B- wire (black wire), and the two temperature wires now all run straight down the cells making their respective connections. There is NO crisscrossing across the top of the cells. The number 1 and number 3 white wires run just above the top of the BMS then make a left turn to connect to their respective connections. This new layout makes for a very clean and orderly arrangement of wires atop of the battery cells. The other group of wires were already mounted to a small circuit board and given its own space to hang out down back end of the BMS. There were no new instructions given to reflect any of the changes of this new layout. It came with the old set of instructions. I did insert a sheet of battery insulation between the cells. I used Barley Paper with adhesive on one side. An Amazon purchase.
your dog got his stress ball in his mouth.
24/7 almost. I catch him snoozing with that ball in his mouth sometimes, LOL
I think it's cool that so many new batteries are hitting the market just wish I was freakin rich and I'd own them all lol
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. When I started the channel I was financing a lot of batteries/cells out of pocket for about a year before any company would work with me. I was wanting to buy every new/cool deal I came across LOL. Thanks!
@@BradCagle man you seem to be getting alot of equipment. Some of the stuff you are showing g seems to be kinda beginner stuff but some of it is some good equipment from what I see. I think someone should make a channel building out medium size systems. Maybe like a battery big enough to power a small subdivision and some kinda commercial grade inverters. I am around the big solar farms all over the country hauling their batteries for them and only 2 will fit on my 53 foot semi. But yeah brother a channel doing a whole subdivision mini solar power plant would be a cool build to see I think
Brad's Battery Build😂
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Great video! Any test regarding the inverter with these 280ah large cells? Can it pull 2000w continuously? I saw that for 220v is rated at 2500w continuously. What do you know?
Thanks for the video....... "Was the BMS included in this Kit?" Thanks much!
Yes BMS was included. Thanks!
I hope you slept well you meanie, that poor dog brought you his favourite play thing and all you wanted to play with was your batteries.
🤣Yeah poor puppy only gets that play thing tossed to him about 900 times per days. I need to put down the batteries and step it up. 🤣
I use 6 inch wide kapton tape and just wrap the cells rather than fiberboard in between cells.
Yeah, I think that is totally sufficient really. I considered that myself. Any extra insulation is a plus. Thanks
Nice review, thanks. I would like to add a DCtoDC charger to this box with a higher rating MPPT, and i was wondering if you can help me up a little with some measurement, if you still have the unit. On 3:44 you can see the battery tray that is well inside the margin of the box where the lid comes. Can you tell me what distance is there. i think is more than an inch, although in europe we use mm. Can you help me up with this measurement? Please and thanks in advance
What is the idle consumption of the inverter?
can you charge via solar and there charger that plugs into 120v at the same time ? will it charge when the inverter is on?
The problem with Licitti is that they don't answer emails. I've sent several. Not good customer service.
I like your helper, by your side the whole time.
do you have assembled battery dimensions
So it doesn’t really fit in the smaller box unless you modify their box? Their website said it fits for the smaller 1000w box.
Licitti prismatic cell question from very new solar person: I have already assembled the 280 Ah prismatic battery kit using 4 cells from Licitti but not charged it yet.
I have seen and read where prismatic cells will swell once charged.
The busbars I connected were snug/tight.
Can I remove the busbars to drill them wider so when they do expand, they will have some give/slack?
Well drilling wont help because they will be tightened down to the cell, so no expansion movement will be available. If you want the busbars to have some give, you'll just have to buy flexible ones, or the ones with the expansion hump. The other option is to build your own out of short lengths of wire, and wire lugs. Thanks
@@BradCagle Thank you greatly sir
Where do I buy the battery only
Can you share the dimensions of the battery after it is built? That would give people the option to source another battery option.
Exactly !
This box really seems compelling for the price and an hour or two of my time. I am curious about charging times off of solar and the optional 20amp charger. My guess is that slow charging is the only knock on this setup. ReeWray Outdoors channel said it took him 15-16 hours to fully charge this kit from a 20 amp charger. I have seen a LI-TIme 40 amp 14.6V charger with a Anderson connector on Amazon for $219 that looks like it could charge this at maybe 7 hours or less. What do you think Brad? I am thinking about purchasing this box with the battery kit but could use your expert guidance about charging options, as my knowledge is very limited. I could not find any 50 AMP AC to DC chargers that didn't look sketchy.
Yeah, for the price point I don't think there's anything else with this capacity (Short of full DIY) But I do agree it's slow at charging, especially the solar. Now you can just add a larger external MPPT, so that's an option. The Li-Time 40a AC charger could be a good option, just make sure the Neg/Pos pins on the Aderson connector are in the right place to mate up with the Licitti box polarity. They can be reversed based on how the manufacture decides to build it, but it's easy to swap the pins/contacts there's a spring retainer under each pin, just press it down and it can be pulled out the back. Thanks
Licitti has a 40 amp charger for their boxes. Today on sale for $80.
The question is are the cells in say, and EG4 Power pro "Energy Storage Grade" or Automotive grade top tier cells?
That is a good question. I have an affiliate account with Signature Solar. Would be awesome If I could get one, and tear it down.
Can I use the Renogy Rover MPPTs for charging the Licciti 280 Ah prismatic battery ?
I've never used that model, but I would think so.
@@BradCagle Thank you.
Would this battery fit the 1,000 watt box if you put the BMS on the top of the battery?
I'm not sure. I'll nee to try. I might do another video trying to fit these in. Thanks
Correct me if I'm wrong, the battery box can be purchased with a 20 amp charger, it would take 14 hours to charge, right.
Yes about 14 hours at 20amps
The monitor was estimating a bit over 14 hours at that point in the video.
I was thinking why is he filming this video while there's somebody right behind him sawing something I didn't realize it it was the dog
Lol
Give that pupper some water
He's a high drive breed, he pants like that when he's in go mode. Look up Belgium Milionis, fun pups. Thanks
Did I miss the link to the 280ah kit? Didn't see it. Am very interested.
Here's a link www.licitti.com/product/2040/
Why didn't they make the BB large enough to fit a standard size 200ah lithium battery?
Its like they want us to pay more money for their individual cell packs or bad luck.
DOOD!
Where's my car? 😆
20amp is way small for 280AH battery. will take way to long to charge
Don’t buy this. I spent the money to have the 20 amp AC charger included. They never sent it and they aren’t responding to emails. I now need to deal with PayPal and visa to get my money back. Buy something else.
No thanks, ill build my own with batteries I can easily replace with lifep04 batteries that are offered from multiple vendors.
What products are you purchasing for your builds?
Is there any 12 volt 200 amp battery's LifePO that fits the 2000 and what are the internal dimensions of the box ?