Browning's Website shows many models of the Browning BAR as no longer in production. But on some Sporting Goods sites show some models still available for purchase. So contact Browning before you buy, to see if you are buying a discontinued model.
I have a BAR mark II in 7mm Remington magnum. It also likes the Sierra game king and Hornady -ELDX bullets very well. It has the BOSS so the groupings are very tight. Great performing gun. Thanks for your videos!
When I was a youngster, I always dreamt of getting a BAR in .338WM. I had visions of living/hunting in bear and elk country and it would be great medicine for stopping a bruin's charge. Alas, my vision changed and such a rifle would be superfluous in the hot lowlands I inhabit. I am certain your rifle will not become envious of the others getting more use than it. Great shooting, as always.
Ma 1ère BAR est de 1975 en parfait fonctionnement et fait toujours son boulot en 300wm. J’ai changé les bois pour une Lyods à trou de pouce elle finira ses jours avec moi pas pressé 😊😊😊😊 😊😊une merveille de précision canon de 24 pouces.
I also weep at the reluctance of Browning to continue with the finest semi auto rifle available. I have owned several over the years and miss each and every one. Because of the cancellation I will pick up a caliber or two to keep in the family. Youngsters need what you and I will leave behind. Cleaned and stored for future use.I enjoy your videos and would have liked to know you in years past.
I sure hope they do not discontinue the BAR . Mine is a 300WM that is a great shooting rifle .Heck half the people in the area I live and family uses a BAR everyone loves them . The gun shops around here can't keep them on shelves .
I just saw one of these in the store on Friday in 25-06. Insanely coincidental 👍 I'm hypothesizing the AR10 platform just made this rifle not profitable any longer. But if I could find a BAR in 7mm Mag, I'm scooping it up. Thanks Dave. Have a great week
I'm due to get my PAL (Canadian FAC) in a month or so, and I had my eye on this rifle (in 30-06). Chances of a large calibre semi auto becoming legal up here except for the Benelli R1 in 300 WM, are rare. Hopefully 3D printing improves so parts can be created by owners in the future. I know these aren't plastic, that's why I'm saying I hope 3D printing improves... The BAR is a huge part of American history, with continued practical use. Novice hunters who fire wide on their first shot can take follow-ups without letting the deer hoof it 5 miles before the bolt is ready again.
Very sad, Dave. That is a beautiful rifle. Do you notice a reduction in recoil with the gas system? I have been looking at these a while. Would not mind one in 30-06.
The discontinued models have always been on there site. But they re only making the 25-06, 270, 30-06, and 300 win mag for the Safari now. The complete BAR line is not discontinued Go to the site and to firearms then BAR that is what is current
In my limited 25-06 experience, the 2 rifles I have in it shoot much differently. My single shot HnR with 26in barrel shoots 100gr corelocks at 1/2 moa and shoots everything else horribly. My vanguard with 24in barrel doesn't seem to care much and shoots everything around 3/4in or just under. Just thought that was interesting, have a good day.
From their websites, there are models BARs and BLRs that are still available, and some models that are not. Is that correct? The information doesn't seem to discontinue on models of BAR and BLR.
Some models of the FN aluminum alloy MK-3 and-4's will not be discontinued, in fact FN has made new models. But the all steel Safari line is no longer in production. Any models already made and in current inventory are available but will not be restocked due to discontinuation.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 This rife is not on the discontinued list on Browning's website it is showing as a current model. The autoloading BAR MK II Safari features a traditionally-styled walnut stock, hammer-forged barrel and a polished blued and engraved steel receiver. Reliable gas piston operation. Detachable box magazine. Is this the rife you said was discontinued?
Excellent rifle platform sure be a shame to see it completely discontinued. Also a huge fan of the 25/06 I don’t think there is a better whitetail cartridge in existence.
I have a BAR Lightweight Stalker with the BOSS system in 338 Win Mag. I'll NEVER part with it. It's built like a Swiss watch and it's a brilliant design.
I have a question for you. My friend has a few browning bar’s and I’m considering buying one. I have always liked them. The one I’m considering buying was made in 1969 and is a 30-06. I have never hand loaded for a semi auto and should add im fairly new to reloading as well. . I’m wondering how to safely test loads for this because I have heard they are a little more sensitive to pressure than a bolt gun. Thank you for your videos!
Quite the contrary, the BAR's have a 7 lug rotating bolt that is very strong. The only reloading issue is the case prep and length trim, then your chamber loaded cartridge length limits. The cases must be full length sized and then checked with a case gauge to insure proper feeding. Because of the gas piston operation you Do Not want to "light load' the cartridge, The BAR needs sufficient pressure to fully retract the bolt for proper ejection and loading the next round. Start in the middle of the recommended load data from the bullet maker and work up for both function and accuracy. The 30-06 round is not a finicky cartridge to load as it accepts the most types of powders listed in the manuals and has a 60-K pressure limit. Good luck to you.
That’s a crying shame about the BAR. Not surprised though…there aren’t many folks interested in a semi-auto rifles (conventional stock configuration). It seems the “black rifles” have made the BAR obsolete.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009so, quick correction, that page is dedicated to the models of BAR that are discontinued. The BAR is still in production though it is difficult to find on the shelf.
Did you watch the video Spomer did with one of these? It wouldn't eject the spent cases. That video probably put the final nail in the coffin for the BAR. They look goofy to me. If it's so nice and well designed, why is the wood over the receiver. It looks like dog crap. There's a design flaw, that forces them to do this..
Browning has been going downhill for a while. Way too high tech now and cheap feeling. My 1985 Browning A Bolt Medallion 30/06 is of outstanding quality.
There costly to make and dont sell that good. I understand why there stopping making them. Too bad yes but i get it. Hope they make a simple rugged pump action to replace it.
They sell very well indeed. I think the reason maybe because of FN in Europe plans to re-tool to the new design MK-4. Sad though because the BAR American Safari line is an all steel reciever and the MK-3 is alluminum alloy.
This is quite likely because Browning released their BAR Mk IV ["4X"] model last year to the European market. The same thing occurred when the Mk III gen. was released superseding the MkII. ruclips.net/video/-HI3ZYXubxk/видео.htmlsi=JUEiHr0NtVoz3L3M
Thanks for your input here and for watching. The Classic BARs, like mine has a steel receiver also and MKIII's have an Aluminum alloy receiver. Steel is more expensive, I'd guess.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I'm aware of the differences between Mk III and Mk II & I. I own a Mk III variant where as the Mk II & I (steel) have been discontinued for IIRC nearly two decades. The Mk IV is a generational development of the Mk III, also having an alloy receiver among other notable feature and function modernizations as depicted in my link from Browning.
You maybe right. FN seems to be commited to the MKIII and the new European version the MarkIV. This was brought up by another commentor who shared a link. But still a crying shame to discontinue the steel frame Safari BAR version.
I sorta get a kick out of people talking about Belgian Brownings, as there was never anything else. The only Browning firearm ever produced in the US is the Buckmark 22 pistol.
Browning's Website shows many models of the Browning BAR as no longer in production. But on some Sporting Goods sites show some models still available for purchase. So contact Browning before you buy, to see if you are buying a discontinued model.
The new Woke CEO of Browning has discontinue the Browning BAR no longer in production if you’ve got one hold onto it and enjoy it it won’t be anymore😮
Beautiful and wonderful rifle… It will never die because guys like us will keep them going 😎
Yes. But repair parts maybe eventually phased out, is my concern. Thanks for watching.
I have a BAR mark II in 7mm Remington magnum. It also likes the Sierra game king and Hornady -ELDX bullets very well. It has the BOSS so the groupings are very tight. Great performing gun. Thanks for your videos!
Thanks for your comment here and for watching.
When I was a youngster, I always dreamt of getting a BAR in .338WM. I had visions of living/hunting in bear and elk country and it would be great medicine for stopping a bruin's charge. Alas, my vision changed and such a rifle would be superfluous in the hot lowlands I inhabit.
I am certain your rifle will not become envious of the others getting more use than it.
Great shooting, as always.
Yes, I got my first BAR in 1984 in 300 Win. Mag. for the very reasons you had visions about. Thanks for watching.
Ma 1ère BAR est de 1975 en parfait fonctionnement et fait toujours son boulot en 300wm. J’ai changé les bois pour une Lyods à trou de pouce elle finira ses jours avec moi pas pressé 😊😊😊😊 😊😊une merveille de précision canon de 24 pouces.
Ive owned two BAR Safaris. They both HATED heavy-for-caliber bullets. Both printed one MOA groups with lighter bullets consistently.
That has been close to my experience also. Thanks for watching.
I have an original 1973 browning bar grade 2 with the bear and ram engraving in 338 win mag. Love the rifle. 210 partitions are deadly
That does sound like a deadly combo indeed.
I have the exact same in a 1972 model. Took a Nilgai on the King ranch with it here in S. TX ~ 10 years ago. 250 gr. 1 shot kill.
Good Sunday Afternoon Dave!!! Seemed to like the Speer hot core bullets!! But like you said it's your story & your stickin' to it! LOL!!!
Yes, more likely human error, "This Human"
I also weep at the reluctance of Browning to continue with the finest semi auto rifle available. I have owned several over the years and miss each and every one. Because of the cancellation I will pick up a caliber or two to keep in the family. Youngsters need what you and I will leave behind. Cleaned and stored for future use.I enjoy your videos and would have liked to know you in years past.
Thanks for the kind words. Leaving Legacy firearms to our heirs is great indeed and preserves lasting memories attached to those firearms.
Exact j’en ai plusieurs ❤❤
I sure hope they do not discontinue the BAR . Mine is a 300WM that is a great shooting rifle .Heck half the people in the area I live and family uses a BAR everyone loves them . The gun shops around here can't keep them on shelves .
It doesn't make sense to me either. Great rifles.
I just saw one of these in the store on Friday in 25-06. Insanely coincidental 👍
I'm hypothesizing the AR10 platform just made this rifle not profitable any longer. But if I could find a BAR in 7mm Mag, I'm scooping it up.
Thanks Dave. Have a great week
I don't know why? I speculate that once Browning and Winchester merged things changed. But I do hope that FN will continue the line.
Nothing more dangerous than a corporate bean counter.
Newer technology using lower cost components also.
I'm due to get my PAL (Canadian FAC) in a month or so, and I had my eye on this rifle (in 30-06). Chances of a large calibre semi auto becoming legal up here except for the Benelli R1 in 300 WM, are rare. Hopefully 3D printing improves so parts can be created by owners in the future. I know these aren't plastic, that's why I'm saying I hope 3D printing improves...
The BAR is a huge part of American history, with continued practical use. Novice hunters who fire wide on their first shot can take follow-ups without letting the deer hoof it 5 miles before the bolt is ready again.
Thanks for your comment here and for watching.
Very sad, Dave. That is a beautiful rifle. Do you notice a reduction in recoil with the gas system? I have been looking at these a while. Would not mind one in 30-06.
Yes, a slight reduction in recoil, but also a little slower in velocity, but they work well with proper maintenance.
good afternoon dave
Hello, Mike.
What powder were you using? I think in previous videos you had used Reloader 23?? For the Sierra's?
For the Sierra's that was Win. 780 (Discontinued)
The discontinued models have always been on there site. But they re only making the 25-06, 270, 30-06, and 300 win mag for the Safari now. The complete BAR line is not discontinued
Go to the site and to firearms then BAR that is what is current
Maybe better to hear from a better source. ruclips.net/video/DRki2cDv7zY/видео.html&ab_channel=BTORange
Your good lady set you up right, enjoy your BAR.
Thanks.
Thanks, but I am sure sorry to see the list for discontinued BAR's on Browning's Website.
In my limited 25-06 experience, the 2 rifles I have in it shoot much differently. My single shot HnR with 26in barrel shoots 100gr corelocks at 1/2 moa and shoots everything else horribly. My vanguard with 24in barrel doesn't seem to care much and shoots everything around 3/4in or just under. Just thought that was interesting, have a good day.
Thanks for your sharing your experiences here.
From their websites, there are models BARs and BLRs that are still available, and some models that are not. Is that correct? The information doesn't seem to discontinue on models of BAR and BLR.
Some models of the FN aluminum alloy MK-3 and-4's will not be discontinued, in fact FN has made new models. But the all steel Safari line is no longer in production. Any models already made and in current inventory are available but will not be restocked due to discontinuation.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 where do they say this, I just looked at the website right now and the safari is still available in several calibers
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 This rife is not on the discontinued list on Browning's website it is showing as a current model. The autoloading BAR MK II Safari features a traditionally-styled walnut stock, hammer-forged barrel and a polished blued and engraved steel receiver. Reliable gas piston operation. Detachable box magazine. Is this the rife you said was discontinued?
@@rocky081991 Maybe better to hear from a better source. ruclips.net/video/DRki2cDv7zY/видео.html&ab_channel=BTORange
Excellent rifle platform sure be a shame to see it completely discontinued. Also a huge fan of the 25/06 I don’t think there is a better whitetail cartridge in existence.
Agree completely! Thanks
I have a BAR Lightweight Stalker with the BOSS system in 338 Win Mag. I'll NEVER part with it. It's built like a Swiss watch and it's a brilliant design.
Thanks for your comment here and for watching.
My Bar is in 270 cal i bought about 1980. Never had a misfire yet.
Great rifles. Thanks for watching.
I have a question for you. My friend has a few browning bar’s and I’m considering buying one. I have always liked them. The one I’m considering buying was made in 1969 and is a 30-06. I have never hand loaded for a semi auto and should add im fairly new to reloading as well. . I’m wondering how to safely test loads for this because I have heard they are a little more sensitive to pressure than a bolt gun. Thank you for your videos!
Quite the contrary, the BAR's have a 7 lug rotating bolt that is very strong. The only reloading issue is the case prep and length trim, then your chamber loaded cartridge length limits. The cases must be full length sized and then checked with a case gauge to insure proper feeding. Because of the gas piston operation you Do Not want to "light load' the cartridge, The BAR needs sufficient pressure to fully retract the bolt for proper ejection and loading the next round. Start in the middle of the recommended load data from the bullet maker and work up for both function and accuracy. The 30-06 round is not a finicky cartridge to load as it accepts the most types of powders listed in the manuals and has a 60-K pressure limit. Good luck to you.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 thank you for your quick response! I appreciate your knowledge and input . God bless!
How do you feel about the bar boss ?
I have no experience with the Boss system. I hear some love them and some hate them.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I have been hearing the same thing.
It is a joke in my book but some folks swear by the devise.
I have a browning bar grade2 in 7mm remmag great gun
That’s a crying shame about the BAR. Not surprised though…there aren’t many folks interested in a semi-auto rifles (conventional stock configuration).
It seems the “black rifles” have made the BAR obsolete.
Agree. Thanks for watching.
Found out yesterday they are also discontinuing the gold 10 gauge! I better stock up on spring followers and buffers.
Best wishes and it is always wise to stock up on extra parts that are prone to wear.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 my $55 buffer with shipping and tax arrived today for my gold....ridiculous
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Remington doe the same with 7600’s. I’ve have many since the early 80’s. They never brake.
Do you know where you got that info?
Right here. www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/bar/discontinued.html
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009so, quick correction, that page is dedicated to the models of BAR that are discontinued. The BAR is still in production though it is difficult to find on the shelf.
@@portersorensen8814 My rifle the Classic Safari is on that list. www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/bar/discontinued/bar-classic-safari.html
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009
My dream gun the Safari MK 2 with the BOSS was discontinued as well
Did you watch the video Spomer did with one of these? It wouldn't eject the spent cases. That video probably put the final nail in the coffin for the BAR. They look goofy to me. If it's so nice and well designed, why is the wood over the receiver. It looks like dog crap. There's a design flaw, that forces them to do this..
As of today the webpage has BAR options with bigger price tags
Dave you best stick with the first ones.
This BAR shoots better than I do. The example is the last 3 went from 2"MOA to 3/4" with the same previous loads.
Word is Browning is culling the herd on a lot of models and calibers. I think the BPS and BLR models are gone as well.
Crying Shame for sure.
Browning has been going downhill for a while. Way too high tech now and cheap feeling. My 1985 Browning A Bolt Medallion 30/06 is of outstanding quality.
@@currituck Thanks for watching.
The BPS is totally gone and I think the Browning lever action is gone too
I absolutely love the BAR
Thanks for watching
Good Stuff,Strohmeyer!
Thanks for watching.
They are great , but id rather see a pump action deer cal rifle like the Winchester sxr2 pump
That action combo sounds interesting. Thanks for watching.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 the Winchester sxr2 pump is only available in Europe ECT. Only the auto version is sold here for some reason
There costly to make and dont sell that good. I understand why there stopping making them. Too bad yes but i get it. Hope they make a simple rugged pump action to replace it.
They sell very well indeed. I think the reason maybe because of FN in Europe plans to re-tool to the new design MK-4. Sad though because the BAR American Safari line is an all steel reciever and the MK-3 is alluminum alloy.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009That Mk3 has that ugly Euro-trash look that I do not like.
This is quite likely because Browning released their BAR Mk IV ["4X"] model last year to the European market.
The same thing occurred when the Mk III gen. was released superseding the MkII.
ruclips.net/video/-HI3ZYXubxk/видео.htmlsi=JUEiHr0NtVoz3L3M
Thanks for your input here and for watching. The Classic BARs, like mine has a steel receiver also and MKIII's have an Aluminum alloy receiver. Steel is more expensive, I'd guess.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I'm aware of the differences between Mk III and Mk II & I. I own a Mk III variant where as the Mk II & I (steel) have been discontinued for IIRC nearly two decades. The Mk IV is a generational development of the Mk III, also having an alloy receiver among other notable feature and function modernizations as depicted in my link from Browning.
@@MrHenryPopesteel bars are still shown as in production on their website as the safari
Sounded like a helicopter
Yep, one of those also.
Dave- You need to understand the fact that FN(The Herstal group) OWNS BROWNING ,so the parent company- FN made the decision to discontinue the rifle.
You maybe right. FN seems to be commited to the MKIII and the new European version the MarkIV. This was brought up by another commentor who shared a link. But still a crying shame to discontinue the steel frame Safari BAR version.
I agree.
I sorta get a kick out of people talking about Belgian Brownings, as there was never anything else. The only Browning firearm ever produced in the US is the Buckmark 22 pistol.