@Alexi Malenkov Spookiest thing I ever heard was in deep winter at Grafenwohr range in FRG in the 1970s. The sound of multiple .50 caliber guns firing and echoing off the bare trees and the snow. Geoff Who has heard some strange things.
When Ian mentions how long serving these guns were I remembered an article from 2015 where Serial number 324 was sent back in to the arsenal for its upgrade to the M2A1 configuration. In 94 years of active service it had never seen an arsenal overhaul.
@@gungho1345 It really wasn't perfect, especially the headspacing, the M2A1 config was long long overdue, I mean quick change barrels and fixed headspacing have been around for decades, its amazing they didn't add those features way earlier.
@@gungho1345 never got to play with one that we didn’t have to set the headspace. At least they made some good changes to eliminate that. A fun weapon to rock and roll on for sure tho!!!
It's not THAT hard to do the headspace. If you know your gun, you already know how many clicks to back off. Screw the barrel in, back off however many clicks (mine took 4), and if you're under duress, you're good to go (granted, if you're under duress, you're probably not doing a barrel change on your Ma Deuce). If you're not in a big hurry, pull out your gauge and check it. Takes like one second. Timing is a pain, but if you don't mess with it you shouldn't need to adjust it. I used Ma Deuces throughout my 06-08 deployment to Ramadi. I had few to no jams the whole time (I did have something inside the bolt break once), and the only time I did timing the whole time was if I was teaching someone how to do timing. 2-3 times the entire 15 months. People act like it's something you constantly have to do, and it's really not. EDIT: Took out a question I found the answer to.
As an infantryman I loved time spent with the .50. Its like wielding the sword of your ancestors because every American soldier in every conflict for 100 years wielded it and using it gives every generation of US Soldier a common link, in the form of the death dealing M-2.
It does have a weighty legacy doesn't it? Being a bit of a gun fanatic I was one of the few of the people in my infantry unit who knew the heritage of the M2, and I would be willing to bet a lot of money that there isn't a single one in inventory that hasn't been deployed and used in combat in multiple engagements across the decades. I felt like I'd been handed a legacy by those soldiers of the past and that legacy was there to protect me provided I did justice to the M2. Probably very much like my brother felt as junior nav and weapons officer on a nuclear SAC B52 in the same time period. His class patch for the nav training was a picture of the B52 and the statement "someone over thirty you can trust." That plane will be approaching 60 years old now if it's still in active use, and there's no reason to think it isn't. Since I was "dismount" (plain old grunt) in my mech infantry unit and not a gunner I got only the bare minimum of time behind the M2 and none at all behind the 25mm in our Bradleys. Alas. But I will say, once you get a feel for the M2, the extreme effective range and the destruction the thing is capable of wreaking, the only way I can describe being behind one is that you feel like Zeus.
Down side to our military (over the years) its become a FEMME Model. Split-tail and Fragile Men are now the standard, you see the LEFT is the DEATH of America. A bunch of Diversity Lies, Limp Wrists and Now Queer Nonsense. A path to hell.
For a period of about 10 days we had a sniper (from somewhere, never knew where these two dudes came from) attached to our squad. Due to the type of terrain and the enemy movements at night, there was an opportunity take out single targets at very long range. But we had to hump that .50 in the daytime -- taking turns with the baseplate, tripod, receiver and barrel, not to mention the ammo. As a practical infantry weapon, don't think much of it. Definitely belongs mounted to something substantial like an M-109 or a Sherman.
That's cause you never had to carry one to the top of a ridge. :) EDIT: Full disclosure, I was a total REMF POG. I just did this crap in training. Don't want to be that guy. ;)
@@Jamoni1 being the smallest guy in the squad, when going on marches the words i hated hearing the most: FERRIS, your carrying the .50, thanks for volunteering 😦😆
The definition of "ahead of its time". Has been a counter-sniper rifle in 'Nam once It will stay in service while there still are targets that should be hit by a .50 standing up against an infantry squad. Who knows, we might even see mech suits wielding it as a SAW...
It was Carlos Norman Hathcock II, aka "White Feather" who modified the m2 browning to be a sniper rifle, and used it to great effect, in '67 he gained the longest sniper kill with it and for a while he kept the record until 2002.
What is most impressive about this gun to me, is how tool-less the dissasembly is! That is some proper genius design where you can take it apart without any tools, and quickly at that. I expected him to bring out a wrench at any time, but he didn't!
@@8076A No They are pretty much the same. Field stripping the weapon is very simple. And unless something is damaged further disassembly in general not needed. The bolt can be further disassemble for cleaning. On a side note during training we were taught to never stand behind the weapon when removing the back plate. It was possible to remove the back plate with the bolt locked to the rear. The operating rod spring would be compressed and if someone managed to get it free from the receiver that person would be having a bad day.
The .50 I had in Iraq during 2009-2010 was made by the AC Spark Plug Division. She was old, but she was beautiful and never failed me. I was honored to be assigned a weapon that could have been used by my grand or even great grand parents.
@@MarvinT0606 I get that you're joking but I doubt mobsters would have been very interested for probably the same reasons they didn't really try to sell them to civilians, it's just SO big and heavy in that context. Not like you can haul one into a bank and demand that they open the safe (though I imagine if you did it would probably be an effective threat!).
We had a breach explosion with an older one in my company and it wounded the gunner in the upper leg, he was using it in sf role on a tripod in a sitting position, he said it nearly took his balls off, straight to surgery
"It's an anti-aircraft weapon primarily " I've had a 30+ year intimate acquaintance with ma deuce and I can tell you she is an anti-everything weapon. I have seen OPFOR soldiers almost shit themselves diving for cover when ma just fires blanks. The psychological effect of that rapid boom can not be overstated. When ma gets fed with the real stuff, the effect is shattering to the enemy. Its literally a visceral response starting in the lizard brain and ending at the sphincter when a .50 opens up.
In OPFOR, the .50 was shooting wooden bullets, with a splitter on the end of the muzzle. There are no bottleneck rounds that effectively keep the gun in full auto. So it shoots soft pine wood bullets.
Interesting physiological concept, with the lizard brain involvement. Brings to mind the old line from Bill Cosby, " First you say it, then you do it" .
As the world wars ended the ma deuce was there As the last millennium came to a close and a new one begin the ma deuce was there And as autonomous vehicles take the battlefield the ma deuce will be there When most fighting is done by robots the ma deuce will be there And as we take to the stars and settle other planets the ma deuce will be there War may change but the ma deuce will always be there
Even in the grim dark future, The Ma Deuce was there It may go by another name, but behind all the bells and whistles, beneath the polish and accessories, The Ma Deuce was there
AK designer Kalashnikov had said that Browning was one of his biggest influencers outside Russia, because of Browning's belief that all that is simple is useful and all that is complex is not.
I believe that too. The more complex something is, the more parts there are, the more likely it is to fail and the harder it will be to fix it. Not everything has to be so super complex and complicated to be used in the modern era.
the unit I was in had these on our vehicles. I found it fascinating that we were using ww2 era guns as evidenced by the stamped manufacturers. We had Browning, Fridgidaire, and General Electric stamped M2s
It was WW2 and everyone was sensitive about war profiteering. Also particularly after Pearl harbor society was very invested in doing as much as they could for the war. If you couldn't go overseas there was not much better than cranking out thousands of .50 cal machine guns. I bet the morale at high standard was fantastic
That was wartime. They had inspectors looking over their shoulder and they had a lot of powers modern IG's dream about. Today the money would disappear into some Black Budget to overthrow the Canadian government to reduce the cost of Canadian bacon.
As mentioned by others, war profiteering was both a moral and legal no-no during WW2; there wasn't a formal law against it, but anyone caught would lose their contracts. This arrangement is formalized by the Defense Production Act of 1950. It SHOULD have been activated in March 2020, but wasn't (there will be whole books on it next year, I'm sure).
The head space and timing issue is a great upgrade. I remember when I was in the military, each crew was issued 2 barrels and we wrote down each barrels clicks and I still remember mine. Barrel A was bottomed out and backed off 4 clicks and barrel B was bottomed out and backed out 8 clicks.
Worn out parts? I was a gunner on an APC in the Norwegian army for a while, and had a 1943 production M2 that somehow had missed the QCB upgrades. Both barrels gaged in spec at two clicks, according to the old manuals they were factory headspaced at two clicks so you could use that without gaging in emergencies. I've handled about a dozen other M2s with adjustable headspace, they were all good at two clicks.
Defense contractor in 1944: "we figured out how to cut costs for these weapons we're making, so here's a refund of $2 million." (inflation calculator says that's over 29 million today) Defense contractor in 2020: "we figured out how to cut costs for these weapons we're making, so here's an extra dividend of $2 million per shareholder (including half the senate appropriations committee)!" Obviously, that's hyperbole, but it's not far off. And I don't know if there were maybe some laws at work in 1944 that also had an influence.
Today it would be "We've figure out how to save 5% on the production consts, so the total contract cost has gone up 10%.". Gotta get those dividends every year.
Maybe it was more of a question of common goal. Nowadays the money persons just know about money. Because, you know, "there is no alternative". So the ones who attain positions of power are people optimized for making money, not having good ideas or being honest, even less being able of long-term vision.
On a darker (or lighter note) the purple hearts issued at the time were probably also made in the 40's ,as they expected 250k casualties invading Japan, ultimately they harnessed the power of the atom and they were not needed at the time.
The single shot mode had another usage other than ranging: it was used by US Marine sniper Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam who fitted a sniper's scope on a M2 and used it for very long range sniping. In 1967, he made a kill recorded at 2,500 yards (2,286 meters).
The only thing that is just as amazing is that Browning started trials in 1918, had experimental versions by 1921, and the issues were worked out by 1933. More than 30 years later and it was proving that .50 sniping was viable, and the gun is still valuable on today's battlefield, 100 years later.
Growing up, my best friends dad was a retired Marine colonel, who told us a similar story from his time in Korea (he was a battalion commander at the Bunker Hill battle). Scavenged scopes from a couple '06 Springfields and rigged them to M-2s. He said the Chicoms would constantly probe their lines and was the best way to keep them at a good distance without revealing disposition.
This video shows the mod I've always wondered about...I've read 2 books a bout Mr. Hathcock's life, and always wondered about his superb accuracy....The closed bolt mod explains it...Drama writers often overlook the tech issues that us others wonder about..Great observation BTW.
I had an AC Sparkplug M-2 on my track in Fulda in 1983. Funny thing S-4 needed to burn a pallet of .50 on the last day of a gunnery. The ammo was head stamped "FA 42" (Frankfort Arsenal, 1942). So here I was at the "Fulda Gap" with a WW2 gun and ammo. Both worked very, very well. We had the M85's on our M60A3's and were pleased as punch to get the M2 back on our M1 Abrams in 1984.
@SephS.: Happy Holidays to you and your family and Thank You for your service protecting our country. Excellent comment, Sir. A question for you: As a professional, USA Armourer, did I understand Ian correctly when he stated that the Browning .50 HMG of WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War eras- with available upgrades and replacement of worn-out parts by pros like you could conceivably remain in active, military service 80+ years after original manufacture? If true, that would be IMO an amazing testament to this legendary weapon-system’s longevity, reliability and just plain toughness. The few I’ve ever seen have been on static-display/de-militarized in museums, so I don’t know. Thank you again.
I believe I read an article from when they started overhauling their inventory that they did in fact find one that was in service for like, 90 years or something like that without ever getting an overhaul. I’ll see if I can find the article.
My favorite of the MG’s. The Mk19 was a fun, but the lego block of a bolt bit me enough and enough faulty ammo pooped a few feet out of the barrel that I developed a distaste for it. The M2, though, I’d volunteer for extra patrols if it meant I got the .50. The satisfying rate of fire and positive feedback from the recoil is a thing of beauty. Throw in the perfect hold and that baby is accurate as anything. Getting a little chubby just thinking about it.
We were out on a ruck march one day and met another unit out doing the same. Some poor shmuck had the receiver and barrel strapped to the top of his ruck w/ the barrel installed. I don't know who he pissed off that morning but he must've done a number.
@@garretthompson8677 we had a tank crew drive over one and a 240 at the same time at NTC. They carried them into the DFAC while the BC and CSM were in there eating.
I was 22. I just joined the Marines. We were being shown one at a historical look at one mounted on a old half track. It would be my first time hearing one from about 40 feet away.. It echoed off buildings about 3/4 of a mile away. I knew at that moment. That was the position I wanted.
During WWII my dad's job was this weapon. He unpacked, cleaned and installed them in bombers such as the B17, B24, B26 and B25s among others. He was mechanically talented. He had this assignment rather than being a gunner.
@Enwurd Looter I’m mean sniper as a rifle caliber weapon being used by one person to kill one person. Those weapons you describe do not count as sniper kills.
TIL! I didn't know that a M2 had been able to hit that accurate at 2500yd, but I guess that there were more than one shot involved? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills
@@everythingexplained If so, it was in semi-automatic mode. Hathcock and others (as far back as the Korean War) mounted scopes on an M2 and sniped with the weapon in the semi-auto mode that Ian discussed. Some also did some tuning work on the spade grip and triggers.
There was a documentary series called 'Tales of the gun' and they dedicated an entire episode to the guns of Browning. When covering the M2, apparently John Browning sold the M2 to the US government for a flat fee instead of taking royalties. Browning's gift to his country
He did the same thing with the BAR, and other weapons. Browning was a strong patriot, a humble man, a strong follower of his faith, a good father, and is the only man to Americanize a foreign arms company. His strength of character is one that few people in history can match. For that reason he is someone I greatly admire compared to other inventors of his day who were greedy douchbags.
You are correct. Not only was Saint John Moses Browning a genius the like of which only comes around at best once per century, but he was a true patriot.
Hey Ian, I'm sure you're not gonna see this. But I could literally not think of a better gift for my current Christmas situation. Stuck in the hospital with covid.. Alone, and extremely depressed. This pops up, im able to play it on the TV in my hospital room. And life is good. I even have a couple of the nurses in here watching this video with me. At a distance, but, are no less curious. So, I'm really not so alone after all. Ian, if I had the money, I would support you as much as possible. This made my year, and I thank you to the deepest of my core for this amazing video. Thank you.
It was always a 'pleasure' to draw our Ma Deuce's extra barrel from the armory and lug it the 1/4 mile to the motor pool. It was sometimes used for 'Ma Deuce spare barrel PT'. My platoon sergeant told us to straight up slather grease on the bolt if we were ever in a combat area. Cleaning them was always an exercise in futility as you could wipe it down, come back a few minutes later and it'd be covered in CLP again. The Army also emphasized to NEVER put your body over the front of it during assembly/disassembly as according to legend the spring is so heavy it killed someone that accidentally released the bolt.
@@dootmarine1140 I am imagining a tech priest seeing a shrine to Browning on a Ork ship and just bowing towards it. The one thing the Mechanicus and the Orkz agree upon.
I shot an M2 once. The ammo was older than me, but it still shot, we were all impressed. Guy with us removed the barrel and sat it on some nylon sandbags. Melted right to the sandbags, and he spent almost an hour scraping the nylon off the barrel
John Moses Browning had a such a talent, his designs are timeless and you'll never change my mind that he is one of the most prolific and best firearm designer's this planet will ever see. Although it's not what he was going for, his name will probably never be lost to history. Who would design a firearm like this, while new technologies in design are being pumped out as fast as patents can be approved and think "oh my design's will last over a century".
The feed tray Cover does not need to be swapped out. The moving parts of the feed tray cover can be flipped around in about 3 minutes. Total time to convert between left hand feed and right hand feed is less than 10 minutes.
I've read a couple of book about the Skunkworks. They did that a lot, they didn't want to lose contracts or get sued, so they would offer the DOD refunds and discounts the DOD didn't even know they had coming to them. It would be awesome if today's contractors had the same honesty and spendthriftness.
@@SuperAWaC Which is why they been fined millions of $ for cost overruns, bribery, and accounting frauds for the F-22 and F-35 programs. The US government screw itself (as usual) in giving Lockheed 2 of the most expensive programs in US military history when they could had spread the risk and gone with the Boeing/Northrup YF-23
I'm in NZ. I was 9 years old in 1982. My grandfather took me to an NZ Army Display (recruitment drive?) where they had all sorts of arms, armour and transport vehicles on show for the civvies to operate and handle under supervision. I remember struggling to charge the bolt on the Browning .50 mounted on a tripod, couldn't do it, lol! The group of young oiks were having a good laugh at my expense, till one of them showed how to do it, and i did it. Felt proud. that day I also played around with a Bren, Stirling and SLR.
Ian is the most brilliant narrator of any firearms autopsies ive ever seen. His knowledge and strategies in both explanation and disassembly/ reassembly along with his well-versed knowledge in design, engineering & manufacturing make his videos a pleasure to watch. His days on the range are an absolute hoot as well as you can see, he clearly loves what he does. God bless Ian and may his days of his lovecraft remain for many years to come!
I took a minor gunnery course during my service and fell in love with it. Every time I charged the handle felt liberating, and firing it was a spiritual experience.
@@justineallandevelos6491 It's actually astonishing how behind we are on HMG development. The Russian KORD is so lightweight and flexible that it can be used as a medium machine gun. And now apparently the Chinese have an even lighter HMG that can easily be carried around by a single man. This is kind of ridiculous.
I was a GM (gunners Mate) in the USCG and I loved the M2HB we had aboard the medium endurance cutter I served on. On a smaller patrol boat we had M60s. What a great weapon!
Just like your own mother, "ma deuce" always loves you no matter what. Even in your early years- during the 1920's and 1930's when you haven't fully realized how special she really is, "ma deuce" still loves you. Even during the turbulent 1940's- when you aren't sure which company manufactured her, it doesn't matter because "ma deuce" still loves you. Even without her water jacket, you realize how beautiful she still is- but even if you hadn't noticed it wouldn't really matter, because "ma deuce" still loves you. Even when you try to replace her with the M85, saying stuff like "look how much shorter her receiver is- you are sooo fat ma deuce" but then you feel dumb because it turns out M85 sucked it _still_ doesn't matter- she will gladly take up her old place in the armored vehicle by your side when the ordeal is over, because "ma deuce" still loves you. And even now... in her old age... when you stay stuff like "ma deuce you are really getting old- we should at least consider putting you in for that upgrade to fixed headspacing and quick change barrels- these are your twilight years and you deserve to enjoy yourself- maybe even meet an old Bofors cannon, you never know!"... she just looks at you and smiles... however the hell a .50 caliber machine gun would smile (probably missing most of her teeth and you aren't sure you knew if they were ever there to begin with)... and you realize that "ma deuce" still loves you.
@@TheWizardGamez a bayonet could certainly help. You may say... "but with a recoiling barrel you can't attach a bayonet" to which I say "you think a jab to the goo will fuck up the bolt, firing pin, or move anything at all?". You may say "but who's going to be able to hoist this thing up?" To which I reply "limited minds... you must mount this on a vehicle, or in a fixed position. On a vehicle you act like an antimaterial Lancer, and in a fixed position you act as an anti-scout car pikeman" So yes, improvements can be made you see!
John M. Browning: „I Wonder how long this .50 cal will be around.“ Mad Max: „We have a Ma Deuce. Let’s use it to arm the truck with the most prestigious cargo: the toilet paper truck.“
He was very much a perfectionist and was always trying to improve his own designs. I honestly think he would be a bit disappointed that no one could come up with anything better despite having a century to do it.
@@MrDgwphotos it is very fun ive shot two machine guns in my life a .50 bmg browning like this one i dont remember if it was the heavy barrel version or whatever but i shot one and a thompson but the fun isnt why we have them its to help fight against tyrannical "laws" that the government tries to "pass" that goes against the constitution
Ah, was just thinking about that in mounted positions, constant flow water jackets versus cooling systems and 'normalizing' the guns warm-to-hot, but always consistent...
I remember reading about a m2 that went in for service and the armorer looked up its service log and found it was put into service prior to ww2 and still operating.
This is probably the story you are thinking of: From 7 Aug 2020, s/n 324 was found at Anniston Army Depot during upgrading of the M2 to the M2A1 config. This gun had remained in US Army inventory for almost 90 years and had never been overhauled. This gun was manufactured in 1933 but was found to still exceed tolerances better than newer examples made today. That's impressive workmanship! The depot was trying to save the gun for one of the Army museums. I hope it made it to the new Army museum at Ft. Belvoir. More here: www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/oldest-m2-browning-50-caliber-mg-still-in-service/383060
Just a thought, we were trained to never leave the charging handle in the rear after charging the weapon, put it back in its forward position, possibility of parts damage if you let the bolt push it forward. When I taught Kuwaitis the M1A2 Abrams one change I fell in love with was the M2HBE1 built by SACO, iirc. major change was a quick change, fixed headspace barrel. Still had a headspace and timing gauge, but the headspace was either good, or try another barrel, no adjustment was possible. Timing was still the same. Lots of my scouts complained that they had to fight the machine gun to put boolets on target. Standard answer was fix your equilibrator. Really a pain in the butt to do and you had to remember to adjust it with a full ammo can attached, bullets, rocks, either works, need the weight to make it balance. My kuwaitis glommed onto this right off and they would have embarrassed my scouts until I taught them to adjust their WWII era equilibrators on the M113s. Abrams equilibrator was more modern and easier to fiddle with, but you still needed a full ammo can when adjusting. Have you done the .50 cal M85 MG yet. Got me some war stories there, too. Oh for the love of a synch arm. If you had a good one you never left it in the tank. Some SOB would steal it as soon as you turned your back. Also easily broken when used by 1D10Ts. (you'll figure it out).
Also, the barrel, bolt, barrel extension and buffer housing recoil as a unit until the buffer extension reaches it's limit of travel. The barrel and barrel extension continue rearward travel, forcing the accelerator lever to accelerate the bolt rearward. They don't slow squat. They are accelerators, not bolt slower downers. Once the bolt has been 'accelerated' the barrel, barrel extension and buffer housing return to their original position pushed by the buffer spring. followed by the bolt with a new boolet if in auto mode.
Oh heck, my M85 war story follows. If you visited a tank range at Ft Carson CO in the early 80's almost every TC fired his M85 on high rate, contributing to breakage, it was intended for anti-aircraft use. Use low rate (about the same as the M2's) for ground targets. If you heard an M85 going 'BURRRRRRRRRRT' wasn't me. If you heard Bup Bup Bup Bup Bup... That was me. May have been the only tanker in the army to shoot his M85 on low rate routinely. I liked putting a belt in the ammo tray at the beginning of gunnery training and still using the same belt on the qualification range. On the platoon qualification range, TTX, IIRC I'd put one belt in the tray, two more in the ammo storage below my feet and trained my gunner to grab one and hold it up to me so I could reload. Time it right and you could do it buttoned up, (needed about 10-12 boolets left in the existing belt),otherwise reloading an empty M85 required exposing yourself because you had to open it up from on top to put the belt into the MG. (You could theoretically do it buttoned up but do it once and you'll never do it again.) My habit was to use the rangefinder to get the range to my target, use it again for my gunner's target and announce it to him in case the ballistic computer didn't get the input from my rangefinder. Use my sight on my target, shoot as few boolets as needed to kill the target, and move on. On the platoon qual I made a point of exhausting my first belt so I had to practice the reload. Probably the only guy that did that, too. One time in qualification I started out the engagement as normal, ranged my target, ranged my gunner's target announced the range and the the 'Gunner, Heat, PC, Diver move out, Gunner take over, Caliber 50!' He did his thing and killed the BMP target. I engaged my troop target, one shot and stopped, no response from the trigger. Grabbed charging chain handle and yanked, No response from electrical trigger, Yanked manual firing chain handle *BANGI* and nothing. Charged, yanked *BANG*, Charged, yanked *BANG* Target TC complete, driver back up. Left hand bled like a stuck pig after banging around the cupola manual controls. Wrapped it up with a handkerchief and motored on. qualified as expected. On the TTVII practice range (TTVIII but for practice) we had an NBC engagement requiring us to mask up and attach to our tank's NBC systems. Only one engagement and then it's magically 'all clear'. Pulled up to the starting position and when the tower asked if I was ready I said 'Hold that thought, GAS, GAS, GAS!. My crew did their thing as did I. Tower complained 'this isn't the gas engagement.' My reply, 'you don't get it, for my guys this is the TTVII NBC range, they're all gas engagements. Let's go.' Probably the only guy to do that too. Fired a qualifying score. SMAJ was not happy. Not my problem, he didn't rate me. Give him credit though, he thoroughly cussed out my Troop CO for not giving me a max rating for the period, which he subsequently did. CSM Jeff Fields I wasn't wearing cooks whites. I was a working tanker and had just come out from under a tank to attend my driver's Art 15 hearing for having a pistol in the barracks that I found and turned over to the XO. I think you were pissed that I bucked the 'max him' chorus and the RCO agreed with me instead of my PSG, 1sg, CO, Sqdn CSM, Sqdn CO, Regt'l CSM. At the time I was one of very few official NCO platoon leaders. Usually, a lieutenant's position but this one was mine. Position got converted later and I became a 'mere' PSG.
it's funny whenever something is considered obsolete but then shortly after finds a perfect matching situation M-14s were pushed out for M-16s but then desert storm came along and all the sudden they need a long range gun, AT rifles are obsolete but then anti material rifles are wanted
@@mathiasbartl9393 The last B-52H produced was delivered on 26 October 1962. I’m sure there are older M2s in service, but there are also more recent production weapons.
@@Imbeachedwhale I'm not sure they ever did need to manufacture more of these after WW2. 2 million guns is waay more than needed for active service today.
And they have pushed on and adopted the A1version with fixed headspace and timing, as you said, and the barrels are delicious for quick change, and fully interchangeable.. For a Blank Firing Adapter, you have to unscrew the break and put on a special one, THEN put the BFA on, as well as the feed assembly additions that are standard for the m2. The semi-auto hold open is standard issue for the Army. Literally every one I have ever fired has had it (And I have employed quite a lot of them over the years.) I love how you have gone full traditional and used the gun to disassemble the gun. Also, important note: The bolt MUST be forward for you to take off the backplate. If you do not do that, it WILL shoot out and possibly impale you. Also, you don't push the feed change in, you actually pull it out after removing the feed pall on the bolt carrier and rotate it. The bolt carrier is a fascinating design, and I am a little sad you didn't disassemble that, though I know it can be a bit of a chore. Been waiting to see this one on here for a long time, nice to see such a beaut!
On my APC I’d fire 1-2 round spotting bursts and once laid on 4-6 rd killing bursts with no more than two required. Very easy MG to clean after decades firing gas operated guns. My only concern was the small springs that broke in the top cover.
I was a platoon armorer my last year in service in the Army, and we were just getting the new ones in. Neither myself nor any other armorer was a big fan of them. The advantage of fixed headspace and timing was sort of lost when it also meant every receiver had two specific barrels rather than just being able to grab a barrel from a pile to use. It's not such an issue with smaller guns such as the M249, but M2 barrels are massive. They also had this sort of ceramic muzzle device that was a glutton for finding new and creative ways to shatter.
We had two of them in Viet Nam and it seemed at any one time we only had one set of timing gauges. Guys were always putting it in a pocket and could not find it when they needed it. Jungle fatigues had too many big cargo pockets. Combat Engineers.
Current small arms repairman here. I can't say that I've ever heard of needing to match barrels for the M2A1. Every time I've serviced a unit's fifties, we got a pile of guns and a pile of barrels, and never had them be out of spec. That being said, maybe they changed something before I started up.
The barrels on the M2A1 are NOT matched to the receiver for head space purpose The barrels are completely swappable from any M2A1 to any other M2 A1 What you describe is actually debunked in the -10 which clearly states the barrels are not matched to the receiver
When John Browning designed perfection, why try to make it better. Sure brings back memories, when they sent the 18th Eng Bde home from Vietnam, the personal and equipment was transferred to various sub-units, I went to the 45th Eng Gp. We convoyed from CamRahn Bay (Dong Ba Thin) North on QL1 to Da Nang (Camp Haskins) where the 45th had just moved down from Phu Bi to take over the camp where the Marines occupied till their pull out in early 1971. We had a couple of Gun Trucks that escorted us on the entire drive, the one that I liked the best had a quad 50 cal on a revolving platform that could cover both sides and the rear, as well as two M-60 Machine guns, one on each front corner of the box. Lots of fire power, we did take fire a couple of times but it was quickly put down by the two gun trucks. These were 2 1/2 ton trucks, and had armor in place on all sides of the cab as well as armor where the windshields had once been, slots allowed the driver to see out both sides and directly in front of the truck. They were very efficient, I know I would think twice before I took a shot at one of those beasts with an SKS or AK.
The Thompson 45, the BAR, back then the gun wasn't a problem, we still blamed the criminal on how they were used, regretfully the gangs of the 20's is what caused the banning of these amazing weapons in civilian use.
Given the cost of .50 BMG today I suspect back then you'd have to be incredibly wealthy to afford enough ammo to shoot it. When you can buy a hamburger for a nickel spending several dollars on a single round must've been painful even to the wealthier enthusiasts. Then again people are spending upwards of 60 cents a round for 9mm right now so I guess it's all about priorities lol
I live near Camp Lejeune and my buddy in the Marines was telling me that they recently removed a Frigidaire manufactured M2 from service, if I remember right the unit had nicknamed the gun Silver Back because the finish had worn all the top half of the gun, but they where able to trace the service of the M2 back to the army air corp in use in the European theater. The gun was taken out of service and it is suppose to end up on display at the Museum of the Marine that is being built next to the Beirut Memorial.
23:56 I love that they've made so many of these that the serial number doesn't fit the alotted space and they had to squeeze two numbers in after stamping it.
Browning M2 - a masterclass in design and the principle of "if it 'ain't broke, don't fix it". 100 years and counting with only minor tweaks and upgrades, remarkable achievement.
Alien Marine fires 2mm coil gun, 2,000RPM, tungsten grav-core-compressed projectile at 12,000mph Humans turn to pink mist at 5miles after the projectile has already gone though a brick wall (or rather, the expanding cloud of plasma whacks the Humans). Aliens say: "WE PROBE U, HUMIES! YOU NO BEAT US WITH APPLE MACS AND AR15s, YOU PRIMITIVE SCREWHEADS!" :P
I've seen some in Norwegian service retrofitted with a hinged safety that swings in under the trigger to block it. That was mainly used because we always had the guns in modern soft mounts with a "bicycle brake" trigger handle that actuated the sear bar from the side. Spade grip and original trigger was rarely used, may as well block that trigger.
I was a HMG gunner with a one meter turret and that gun was stamped 1942 General Electric spark plug Coy. The QCB was a easy solution for the gunner to have to adjust the head space and timing for the 12.7mm. It caused havoc initially with the degradation of HMG gunner skill set. A whole video could be spent on the bolt strip and assembly which is as fun as pitting the accelerator assembly with the bolt into the main body again. Many boot laces have been sacrificed in the repair of rockies trying to assemble a "fired" position bolt back into the HMG. Good bless the procurement gods that has kept this gun safe for the CAF! From Germany, Croatia, Bosnia Hertz, Macedonia, Kosovo, Africa and Somalia, into Afghanistan and Iraq a great HMG that jad so many usses. Cheers Love the video
It's not. That was not a full disassembly. That was just the major component parts pulled out. He didn't go into disassembly of the bolt itself, which is an additional 11 parts (if I remember correctly) and is like trying to take apart and put back together a tavern puzzle consisting entirely of tiny springs and pins while the whole thing is slathered in lube.
@@thetalesofdaneandco if you hate on different car builds just because of personal bias you’re not a car person hahaha Some people provably think American cars are idiotic
Nice to see the old girl again, Thank you Ian. I served in the SADF . We set the head space with, 'Go= No Go' gauges. Tungsten carbide block that you screwed the barrel back til one side the gauge fitted and the no= go did not. slight adjustment changed the firing rate a bit. Our .30 cal MG's were changed. trigger group was changed to fire from an open bolt for more cooling and no cook off . Both are very reliable. Thank You Ian.
As a former company armorer for a tank company in Ft Carson, Colorado (D co, 3/68AR), I really appreciate you reviewing this beast. I lugged one of these baby's on my shoulder from the company armorer room to the tank bays soooo many times that I still recall the pain nearly 30 years later.
My pops spent 23 years in the army, including 2 trips to veitnam. He was a platoon Sargent over a tank platoon. The M2 was his favorite weapon of all time!
I visited the Canadian navy frigate, HMCS Winnipeg. On this ship I was shown an M2 .50cal mounted in a remote weapons station, that was made 1941 and had been in continuous navy service since then
@@44musher The ghost round must be properly sacrificed to the machine gods. The litany is sacrosanct, you are dealing with a grenade launching machine gun.
Hey Ian! You probably don’t remember me, but we used to shoot 2GACM back in the day. To the point, you have two details backwards. First, The accelerator tips in the buffer body don’t delay the action. They literally accelerate it. The short recoil system means the recoil acts upon the barrel, pushing the entire barrel extension>bolt>buffer body rearwards. When the buffer body stops against the back plate, it causes the back of the barrel extension to act on the accelerator tips, which pushes the bolt rearward for primary extraction. The spring in the buffer itself retards the accelerator tips until chamber pressure drops. fun fact; the buffer used to be an actual oil filled system with no spring. It used mechanically generated hydraulic pressure to delay the action. It had a Swiss cheese plate moving through the oil medium that delayed the action. Much like the Blish mechanism of a Thompson, it was deemed redundant. The second detail; the feed tray itself does not need to be swapped completely. All present parts, minus the front cartridge stop, need only be reconfigured to allow right hand feed. Unless this is some technical detail of the older guns I’m not familiar with. Maybe someday if the stars align I can shoot another match with you and Karl again. Best of luck, and happy new year!
I was confused that a component called an accelerator would 'delay' a specific function, the M1 rifle's accelerator is similar in form. You seemed to be knowledgeable on the M2, can the rate of fire be controlled by changing the 'buffer'?
We had an M2 CROWS-2 mount on my second tour and the fire control computer could do a “low cyclic rate” full auto, which was tremendously useful. You could fire with pretty shocking accuracy and stretch out the ammo supply in the process. It basically turned our platoon sgt’s maxpro into a rolling 50 cal SASS.
Audie Murphy received his Medal of Honor for holding off a Germany armor/infantry attack firing a M2 off the back of a burning tank destroyer that could have blown up at any moment. Also, LTC William Jones was last seen on the back of a jeep firing a .50 into a mass Japanese attack on Saipan, and when the position was recaptured, his body was surrounded by many enemy soldiers he killed before succumbing to his wounds. Many former American service members have deep feelings of regard for this weapon.
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The M2 browning: Turning cover into concealment for over 100 years.
I want that on a shirt
Haha m2 brrrr
@Alexi Malenkov Spookiest thing I ever heard was in deep winter at Grafenwohr range in FRG in the 1970s. The sound of multiple .50 caliber guns firing and echoing off the bare trees and the snow. Geoff Who has heard some strange things.
M2 go *thum thum thum thum thum*
Well said.
The "long winded" introduction is fitting for a gun of that size and history.
Well most other guns had less time in service than the length of introduction.
Indeed
When Ian mentions how long serving these guns were I remembered an article from 2015 where Serial number 324 was sent back in to the arsenal for its upgrade to the M2A1 configuration. In 94 years of active service it had never seen an arsenal overhaul.
You can't improve on perfection. Other than that pesky headspace and timing.
I was in the 1st AD may 82 thru Aug 85 our m2s went to depot every Q4 cycle
@@gungho1345 It really wasn't perfect, especially the headspacing, the M2A1 config was long long overdue, I mean quick change barrels and fixed headspacing have been around for decades, its amazing they didn't add those features way earlier.
@@gungho1345 never got to play with one that we didn’t have to set the headspace. At least they made some good changes to eliminate that. A fun weapon to rock and roll on for sure tho!!!
It's not THAT hard to do the headspace. If you know your gun, you already know how many clicks to back off. Screw the barrel in, back off however many clicks (mine took 4), and if you're under duress, you're good to go (granted, if you're under duress, you're probably not doing a barrel change on your Ma Deuce). If you're not in a big hurry, pull out your gauge and check it. Takes like one second. Timing is a pain, but if you don't mess with it you shouldn't need to adjust it. I used Ma Deuces throughout my 06-08 deployment to Ramadi. I had few to no jams the whole time (I did have something inside the bolt break once), and the only time I did timing the whole time was if I was teaching someone how to do timing. 2-3 times the entire 15 months. People act like it's something you constantly have to do, and it's really not.
EDIT: Took out a question I found the answer to.
As an infantryman I loved time spent with the .50. Its like wielding the sword of your ancestors because every American soldier in every conflict for 100 years wielded it and using it gives every generation of US Soldier a common link, in the form of the death dealing M-2.
It does have a weighty legacy doesn't it? Being a bit of a gun fanatic I was one of the few of the people in my infantry unit who knew the heritage of the M2, and I would be willing to bet a lot of money that there isn't a single one in inventory that hasn't been deployed and used in combat in multiple engagements across the decades. I felt like I'd been handed a legacy by those soldiers of the past and that legacy was there to protect me provided I did justice to the M2.
Probably very much like my brother felt as junior nav and weapons officer on a nuclear SAC B52 in the same time period. His class patch for the nav training was a picture of the B52 and the statement "someone over thirty you can trust." That plane will be approaching 60 years old now if it's still in active use, and there's no reason to think it isn't.
Since I was "dismount" (plain old grunt) in my mech infantry unit and not a gunner I got only the bare minimum of time behind the M2 and none at all behind the 25mm in our Bradleys. Alas. But I will say, once you get a feel for the M2, the extreme effective range and the destruction the thing is capable of wreaking, the only way I can describe being behind one is that you feel like Zeus.
Down side to our military (over the years) its become a FEMME Model. Split-tail and Fragile Men are now the standard, you see the LEFT is the DEATH of America. A bunch of Diversity Lies, Limp Wrists and Now Queer Nonsense. A path to hell.
Harry Potter should have carried a 1911. Here's why:
@@starcityrc3298 shit i dont blame them
For a period of about 10 days we had a sniper (from somewhere, never knew where these two dudes came from) attached to our squad. Due to the type of terrain and the enemy movements at night, there was an opportunity take out single targets at very long range. But we had to hump that .50 in the daytime -- taking turns with the baseplate, tripod, receiver and barrel, not to mention the ammo. As a practical infantry weapon, don't think much of it. Definitely belongs mounted to something substantial like an M-109 or a Sherman.
I never realized until now how absolutely massive this gun is.
Now imagine the watercooled version. ;-)
That's cause you never had to carry one to the top of a ridge. :)
EDIT: Full disclosure, I was a total REMF POG. I just did this crap in training. Don't want to be that guy. ;)
Ian standing next to her really did help to enhance my perspective.
@@Jamoni1 being the smallest guy in the squad, when going on marches the words i hated hearing the most: FERRIS, your carrying the .50, thanks for volunteering 😦😆
@@rf200774 If it wasn't the M2 it was the MK19. To add insult to injury they made me the M249 guy. Those jerks knew what they were doing.
1921: No one liked the gun.
2020: Everyone uses it, from the US Army all the way to Mexican drug cartels.
The definition of "ahead of its time". Has been a counter-sniper rifle in 'Nam once
It will stay in service while there still are targets that should be hit by a .50 standing up against an infantry squad. Who knows, we might even see mech suits wielding it as a SAW...
@@BlackBladeGroM didn't Hathcock mount an optic on one for the longest sniper kill before modern rifles 2000+yards
@@scooterdogg7580 yes it was done, but no it wasn't gunny hathcock
It was Carlos Norman Hathcock II, aka "White Feather" who modified the m2 browning to be a sniper rifle, and used it to great effect, in '67 he gained the longest sniper kill with it and for a while he kept the record until 2002.
@@unluckymonkey4382 it was hathcock
What is most impressive about this gun to me, is how tool-less the dissasembly is! That is some proper genius design where you can take it apart without any tools, and quickly at that. I expected him to bring out a wrench at any time, but he didn't!
I wonder how the earliest models looked, I can imagine the WWI productions needing tools for the first few dozen.
BALD!
Manually had to set headspace and timing for one.
@@8076A No
They are pretty much the same.
Field stripping the weapon is very simple.
And unless something is damaged further disassembly in general not needed.
The bolt can be further disassemble for cleaning.
On a side note during training we were taught to never stand behind the weapon when removing the back plate.
It was possible to remove the back plate with the bolt locked to the rear.
The operating rod spring would be compressed and if someone managed to get it free from the receiver that person would be having a bad day.
Didn’t expect to see you here, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
The .50 I had in Iraq during 2009-2010 was made by the AC Spark Plug Division. She was old, but she was beautiful and never failed me. I was honored to be assigned a weapon that could have been used by my grand or even great grand parents.
I'll give this a 12.7 on a scale of 10...
Only if you multiply it by 98
wardaddy jokes
@@RCgenral You don't get it, do you?
nice.
@@FIREBRAND38 You didn't get it did you? (.50 BMG = 12.7mm X 99 NATO)
"...selling these *commercially* in the 1920s"
good times indeed
Commercially means selling it to other countries militaries in this case. No .50 cal. machineguns were sold to civilians.
@@davidresetarits5616 they would have made a killing by selling these to mobst- I mean civilians as well
@@MarvinT0606 I get that you're joking but I doubt mobsters would have been very interested for probably the same reasons they didn't really try to sell them to civilians, it's just SO big and heavy in that context. Not like you can haul one into a bank and demand that they open the safe (though I imagine if you did it would probably be an effective threat!).
@@MarvinT0606 not the only ones making a killing off it lol
@@jameshealy4594 You can make technicals with them.
My history teacher was an EOD tech in Afghanistan and one of his HMMMV’s had a M2 with serial numbers from 1926
Just realised it's a gun design that spans the period between 3rd & 4th Anglo-Afghanistan wars
Not really much to break you cannot fix.
Everything is built so chunky, and so well that they just keep running and running regardless.
@@alexh3974 Emphasis on chunky, fucking hell
@Name Change and still runs like it was built with decent care and repair.
Long as looked after and lubricated, they look solid as hell.
I’ve fired ones dated 1943-1950s it’s something firing something that old
Fun fact. One of the Ma Dueces in my unit was manufactured in 1939. And is still being used, and was the most reliable of the 50’s
We had a breach explosion with an older one in my company and it wounded the gunner in the upper leg, he was using it in sf role on a tripod in a sitting position, he said it nearly took his balls off, straight to surgery
@@gnifrusdniw VA: Your testicular injury is not service related.
Imagine yourself failing to replace an archaic MG of 1917 design for like a century and still cope with its numerous flaws
@@worldoftancraft eh if it gets the job done
@@jooot_6850 Even if it doesn't, because it's not where I could be if it'd be modern?
Genious
"It's an anti-aircraft weapon primarily "
I've had a 30+ year intimate acquaintance with ma deuce and I can tell you she is an anti-everything weapon. I have seen OPFOR soldiers almost shit themselves diving for cover when ma just fires blanks. The psychological effect of that rapid boom can not be overstated. When ma gets fed with the real stuff, the effect is shattering to the enemy. Its literally a visceral response starting in the lizard brain and ending at the sphincter when a .50 opens up.
So it is like the ending of the 4th Rambo film?
You Sir, have a way with words. Short, sweet and complete.
‘Ending at the sphincter’ ha that’s a good one
In OPFOR, the .50 was shooting wooden bullets, with a splitter on the end of the muzzle. There are no bottleneck rounds that effectively keep the gun in full auto. So it shoots soft pine wood bullets.
Interesting physiological concept, with the lizard brain involvement. Brings to mind the old line from Bill Cosby, " First you say it, then you do it" .
As the world wars ended the
ma deuce was there
As the last millennium came to a close and a new one begin the
ma deuce was there
And as autonomous vehicles take the battlefield the ma deuce will be there
When most fighting is done by robots the ma deuce will be there
And as we take to the stars and settle other planets the ma deuce will be there
War may change but the ma deuce will always be there
Wars come and go, but one thing remains the same. And that, is the Ma Deuce.
Just imagine when we colonize other planets and bring this bad boy along
Even in the grim dark future,
The Ma Deuce was there
It may go by another name,
but behind all the bells and whistles,
beneath the polish and accessories,
The Ma Deuce was there
@@edwardhaybell1938 in the grim dark future I'm pretty sure the ma deuce is called a heavy stubber lol
@@edwardhaybell1938 With receivers built in WW2
All I want for Christmas is a Ma Deuce.
Dear Santa...
"I dont want a lot on christmas."
Lol, what a bunch of liars
Mariah Carey was actually talking about Ian
Try getting that down the chimney!
@@PlymouthT20 If anyone can, Santa can. ;)
Imagine telling John Browing in 1918 that nearly 100 years later his design would still be used
He probably wouldn't be all that surprised
He would probably just smile and chuckle softly to himself.
How about 1911 ?
I imagine he'd be annoyed no one came up with anything better and start on it himself.
@@DSFARGEG00 its a full auto gun that fires 50 bmg and it's reliable as hell how much better could anything of that nature possibly be
AK designer Kalashnikov had said that Browning was one of his biggest influencers outside Russia, because of Browning's belief that all that is simple is useful and all that is complex is not.
I believe that too. The more complex something is, the more parts there are, the more likely it is to fail and the harder it will be to fix it. Not everything has to be so super complex and complicated to be used in the modern era.
@Jimmy Two Times grease gun
@Jimmy Two Times All humans are born dead anyways. Might as well go out on our own terms.
above is a discussion between the department of procurement, and the the logistics department.
@@Robb1977 Let me guess, I'm the Logistics Department and Jimmy Two Times is the Department of Procurement?
Wife's gonna be pissed when she realizes I'm watching this and not taking pictures of the kids
Gather the family around for a wholesome history and mechanical lesson.
Can be fixed with m2, easy
Currently happening...
Lmao!
@@caseybrown5183 you sir, are a legend.
Browning was a genius. The 2 longest serving firearms in the US military is his designs
@@John_Redcorn_ well then we can also mention the gas operation system, pistol slide
Not to mention he was one of the originators of the 9mm caliber as well.
1911 and this gun
@@todo9633 He wasnt the originator that honour goes to DWM he did make 9 mm Browning long (9x20 semi rimmed)
It's gonna end up as the Brown Bess of the US Military. In use for over 200 years (or more)
the unit I was in had these on our vehicles. I found it fascinating that we were using ww2 era guns as evidenced by the stamped manufacturers. We had Browning, Fridgidaire, and General Electric stamped M2s
"We're too profitable, have some money back"
Wow, times sure have changed
It was WW2 and everyone was sensitive about war profiteering. Also particularly after Pearl harbor society was very invested in doing as much as they could for the war. If you couldn't go overseas there was not much better than cranking out thousands of .50 cal machine guns. I bet the morale at high standard was fantastic
Government Contract Law is like no other on Earth, or near space. Geoff Who took the course back in the 1980s.
That was wartime. They had inspectors looking over their shoulder and they had a lot of powers modern IG's dream about. Today the money would disappear into some Black Budget to overthrow the Canadian government to reduce the cost of Canadian bacon.
Then: "Oh dear, there's a war on. Can't be seen to be profiteering."
Now: "Woohoo, there's a war on! Nobody will notice the profiteering!"
As mentioned by others, war profiteering was both a moral and legal no-no during WW2; there wasn't a formal law against it, but anyone caught would lose their contracts. This arrangement is formalized by the Defense Production Act of 1950. It SHOULD have been activated in March 2020, but wasn't (there will be whole books on it next year, I'm sure).
Quite possibly the "least forgotten" weapon the channel's ever featured lol!
The most unforgettable. It'll never leave.
I'd say the "least forgotten" firearm showcased on this channel is the MP5, since it's shoved into our face by pop culture all the time.
@@stevenbobbybills I was thinking the same thing
I saw the name of the video and thought "Umm...forgotten weapons?"
Loud and clear
The head space and timing issue is a great upgrade. I remember when I was in the military, each crew was issued 2 barrels and we wrote down each barrels clicks and I still remember mine. Barrel A was bottomed out and backed off 4 clicks and barrel B was bottomed out and backed out 8 clicks.
Worn out parts?
I was a gunner on an APC in the Norwegian army for a while, and had a 1943 production M2 that somehow had missed the QCB upgrades. Both barrels gaged in spec at two clicks, according to the old manuals they were factory headspaced at two clicks so you could use that without gaging in emergencies. I've handled about a dozen other M2s with adjustable headspace, they were all good at two clicks.
@@Kaboomf Or possibly they were from different manufacturers, with different tolerances.
Defense contractor in 1944: "we figured out how to cut costs for these weapons we're making, so here's a refund of $2 million." (inflation calculator says that's over 29 million today)
Defense contractor in 2020: "we figured out how to cut costs for these weapons we're making, so here's an extra dividend of $2 million per shareholder (including half the senate appropriations committee)!"
Obviously, that's hyperbole, but it's not far off. And I don't know if there were maybe some laws at work in 1944 that also had an influence.
Today it would be "We've figure out how to save 5% on the production consts, so the total contract cost has gone up 10%.". Gotta get those dividends every year.
Maybe it was more of a question of common goal. Nowadays the money persons just know about money. Because, you know, "there is no alternative".
So the ones who attain positions of power are people optimized for making money, not having good ideas or being honest, even less being able of long-term vision.
My Cav unit was issued new Abrams in the early 90's (A1-HC's) our "new" Ma Dueces were in crates marked from the 40's...
From back when American factories built quality stuff.
New old stock?
"Fresh frozen"
That's one hell of a backorder.
On a darker (or lighter note) the purple hearts issued at the time were probably also made in the 40's ,as they expected 250k casualties invading Japan, ultimately they harnessed the power of the atom and they were not needed at the time.
The single shot mode had another usage other than ranging: it was used by US Marine sniper Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam who fitted a sniper's scope on a M2 and used it for very long range sniping. In 1967, he made a kill recorded at 2,500 yards (2,286 meters).
The only thing that is just as amazing is that Browning started trials in 1918, had experimental versions by 1921, and the issues were worked out by 1933. More than 30 years later and it was proving that .50 sniping was viable, and the gun is still valuable on today's battlefield, 100 years later.
Growing up, my best friends dad was a retired Marine colonel, who told us a similar story from his time in Korea (he was a battalion commander at the Bunker Hill battle). Scavenged scopes from a couple '06 Springfields and rigged them to M-2s. He said the Chicoms would constantly probe their lines and was the best way to keep them at a good distance without revealing disposition.
This video shows the mod I've always wondered about...I've read 2 books a bout Mr. Hathcock's life, and always wondered about his superb accuracy....The closed bolt mod explains it...Drama writers often overlook the tech issues that us others wonder about..Great observation BTW.
All of our 50s had a mount on the right rear of the receiver. You could mount a NVD or scope.
"And Lo! He did indeed observe the witness hole and thusly it was so that the square feature did manifest and was visible!" - Chapter 12: 7
Saw what you did there with the Chapter:Verse number ;)
John 12:7
I had an AC Sparkplug M-2 on my track in Fulda in 1983. Funny thing S-4 needed to burn a pallet of .50 on the last day of a gunnery. The ammo was head stamped "FA 42" (Frankfort Arsenal, 1942). So here I was at the "Fulda Gap" with a WW2 gun and ammo. Both worked very, very well.
We had the M85's on our M60A3's and were pleased as punch to get the M2 back on our M1 Abrams in 1984.
He saved it for us. Specifically to drop on Christmas. So now he's Gun Santa in addition to Gun Jesus.
AMEN JESUS
Be sure to watch the Arisaka paratrooper rifle video with Duncan McCollum, aka Gun Joseph.
@@TammoKorsai I have never thought to continue the metaphor in that way, but you are not wrong.
@@TammoKorsai i feel like a dork cause i accidentally searched up arasaka instead
Santajesusgod
As a US Army Unit Armorer, this was a real Christmas present. Thanks, Gun Jesus!
I was Navy, Aviation Ordinance, got assigned to the ships gun mounts pretty often. Definitely a nice surprise.
@SephS.: Happy Holidays to you and your family and Thank You for your service protecting our country. Excellent comment, Sir. A question for you: As a professional, USA Armourer, did I understand Ian correctly when he stated that the Browning .50 HMG of WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War eras- with available upgrades and replacement of worn-out parts by pros like you could conceivably remain in active, military service 80+ years after original manufacture? If true, that would be IMO an amazing testament to this legendary weapon-system’s longevity, reliability and just plain toughness. The few I’ve ever seen have been on static-display/de-militarized in museums, so I don’t know. Thank you again.
I believe I read an article from when they started overhauling their inventory that they did in fact find one that was in service for like, 90 years or something like that without ever getting an overhaul. I’ll see if I can find the article.
Found the article. It was weapon #324 and it went through roughly 94 years and never got a single overhaul or upgrade.
In the Army in the 70s we just called it “ The 50 cal.” It was a scary gun.
Great info; I always loved the M2 unless I was carrying it (broken down in a team of course). Super reliable/durable---no complaints on my end!
Benefits of being arty: we never had to lug the old girl on foot. We rode, and she rode with us.
My favorite of the MG’s. The Mk19 was a fun, but the lego block of a bolt bit me enough and enough faulty ammo pooped a few feet out of the barrel that I developed a distaste for it. The M2, though, I’d volunteer for extra patrols if it meant I got the .50. The satisfying rate of fire and positive feedback from the recoil is a thing of beauty. Throw in the perfect hold and that baby is accurate as anything.
Getting a little chubby just thinking about it.
We were out on a ruck march one day and met another unit out doing the same. Some poor shmuck had the receiver and barrel strapped to the top of his ruck w/ the barrel installed. I don't know who he pissed off that morning but he must've done a number.
Actually know a guy that broke one....
@@garretthompson8677 we had a tank crew drive over one and a 240 at the same time at NTC. They carried them into the DFAC while the BC and CSM were in there eating.
I was 22. I just joined the Marines. We were being shown one at a historical look at one mounted on a old half track. It would be my first time hearing one from about 40 feet away.. It echoed off buildings about 3/4 of a mile away. I knew at that moment. That was the position I wanted.
Did you get it? And are you deaf today if so?
@@tylerdean980 unfortunately yes. One of the most dangerous places to be actually. On top of a Hummer
Sometimes the worst thing in the world is getting what you wanted.
What a brilliant way to wind down after a massive Christmas dinner, merry Christmas everyone!
This is the exact opposite of a Forgotten Weapon, BUT one hell of a Christmas surprise. Merry Christmas Ian!
Proudly in service for nearly 100 years
Its history is forgotten however.
Unforgettable Weapons.
And a boxing day present to thanks again Ian
On Christmas, all bets are off. Regular Car Reviews reviewed an aircraft.
100 years in service and still a thousand years left in service.
This weapon is the definition of "it just works".
In the future when the military uses giant robots, they’ll still be mounting the .50 cal
@@siegfried2k4 The M2 would be an *exceptional* "anti-bipedal-robot" weapon.
The Imperial Guard in Warhammer 40k is still using them in the 41st millennium. They are options for the pintle mount on all their vehicles.
@@erwin669 also a similar design is used in the IG heavy weapons squad 'heavy stubber' and most vehicle mounted guns for the gene stealers
I never really realised how big these were until I saw one next to an M1919. They're literally twice the size it's incredible
Almost hundred years old and still a sexy looking gun
Mate, ian only looks like he is late twenties at most, but yes, i agree.
The M2 is cool as well.
Aged like a fine wine.
"That vehicle offends me. Remove it"
"Oh bugger, the troop transport is on fire"
I understood that reference.
Yes, Commissar
I suppose with explosive rounds it could be considered artillery
@@dionjaywoollaston1349That is a very questionable argument but one I very much support making
Ian: "This has been a very long winded introduction to the origins of the M2."
Othias: "Hold my guinea pig."
RoflL
Roflmao
During WWII my dad's job was this weapon. He unpacked, cleaned and installed them in bombers such as the B17, B24, B26 and B25s among others. He was mechanically talented. He had this assignment rather than being a gunner.
Reminder that this gun held the record for longest kill until 2002.
@Enwurd Looter I meant as a sniper rifle.
@Enwurd Looter I’m mean sniper as a rifle caliber weapon being used by one person to kill one person. Those weapons you describe do not count as sniper kills.
@Enwurd Looter Why must you be like this. You knew what he meant. I knew what he meant. We all did. Why be an ass?
TIL! I didn't know that a M2 had been able to hit that accurate at 2500yd, but I guess that there were more than one shot involved? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills
@@everythingexplained If so, it was in semi-automatic mode. Hathcock and others (as far back as the Korean War) mounted scopes on an M2 and sniped with the weapon in the semi-auto mode that Ian discussed. Some also did some tuning work on the spade grip and triggers.
There was a documentary series called 'Tales of the gun' and they dedicated an entire episode to the guns of Browning. When covering the M2, apparently John Browning sold the M2 to the US government for a flat fee instead of taking royalties. Browning's gift to his country
He did the same thing with the BAR, and other weapons. Browning was a strong patriot, a humble man, a strong follower of his faith, a good father, and is the only man to Americanize a foreign arms company.
His strength of character is one that few people in history can match. For that reason he is someone I greatly admire compared to other inventors of his day who were greedy douchbags.
You are correct.
Not only was Saint John Moses Browning a genius the like of which only comes around at best once per century, but he was a true patriot.
Not to talk Browning down. But he probably made a huge Profit even with a flat fee
Hey Ian, I'm sure you're not gonna see this. But I could literally not think of a better gift for my current Christmas situation. Stuck in the hospital with covid.. Alone, and extremely depressed. This pops up, im able to play it on the TV in my hospital room. And life is good. I even have a couple of the nurses in here watching this video with me. At a distance, but, are no less curious. So, I'm really not so alone after all. Ian, if I had the money, I would support you as much as possible. This made my year, and I thank you to the deepest of my core for this amazing video. Thank you.
Al
Hope you get to feeling better soon. Had my run in with it a couple weeks ago.
@@BlackMasterRoshi “Covid”..
Hope you have a good recovery!
I want to like this comment but it’s at 69
@@BlackMasterRoshi I got pneumonia as a result of covid...
It was always a 'pleasure' to draw our Ma Deuce's extra barrel from the armory and lug it the 1/4 mile to the motor pool. It was sometimes used for 'Ma Deuce spare barrel PT'. My platoon sergeant told us to straight up slather grease on the bolt if we were ever in a combat area. Cleaning them was always an exercise in futility as you could wipe it down, come back a few minutes later and it'd be covered in CLP again. The Army also emphasized to NEVER put your body over the front of it during assembly/disassembly as according to legend the spring is so heavy it killed someone that accidentally released the bolt.
John Browning, the man who invented the heavy stubber, true patron saint of the Imperial Guard
And guns
In the grim darkness of the 40th millennia even the Orkz have shrines to Browning.
@@spartanonxy John Brownin', for 'e woz bru'al and kunnin' at the same toim
@@dootmarine1140 I am imagining a tech priest seeing a shrine to Browning on a Ork ship and just bowing towards it. The one thing the Mechanicus and the Orkz agree upon.
Cadia stands!
I shot an M2 once. The ammo was older than me, but it still shot, we were all impressed. Guy with us removed the barrel and sat it on some nylon sandbags. Melted right to the sandbags, and he spent almost an hour scraping the nylon off the barrel
"Strap in guys, it's gonna be a long video."
My body is ready.
16 years since I took the unit armorer course in the army and I still remember most of this disassembly.
John Moses Browning had a such a talent, his designs are timeless and you'll never change my mind that he is one of the most prolific and best firearm designer's this planet will ever see. Although it's not what he was going for, his name will probably never be lost to history. Who would design a firearm like this, while new technologies in design are being pumped out as fast as patents can be approved and think "oh my design's will last over a century".
His name will never be lost! Just look at how one of his guns has lasted! Also we don't have that much time left!!!
It will last into the 42 millennium as the heavy stubber
Wait a minute....this weapon was developed *after* WWI as the YANKs got to know the German 13mm Anti-tank rifle ammunition and its advantages!
The feed tray Cover does not need to be swapped out. The moving parts of the feed tray cover can be flipped around in about 3 minutes.
Total time to convert between left hand feed and right hand feed is less than 10 minutes.
I was just about to say this. Thank you for getting to it first.
cool one of those things only those who use it would know
The M2. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Haha first thing i thought of when he spoke on its time in service.
All of that interwar fiddling suggests that it might not have been broke, but it certainly weren't quite right.
@Alexi Malenkov you say that as if the 30mm replaced the .50 lol good luck shouldering a 30mm cannon.
@@killdizzle #whoosh
If it ain't broke, Ma Deuce can probably fix that.
The disassembly was a LOT simpler than I expected.. And Ian didn't break a sweat too!
imagine a military contractor *refunding* the government for reduced costs today..
I've read a couple of book about the Skunkworks. They did that a lot, they didn't want to lose contracts or get sued, so they would offer the DOD refunds and discounts the DOD didn't even know they had coming to them. It would be awesome if today's contractors had the same honesty and spendthriftness.
@@wittsullivan8130 lockheed sure isn't doing that anymore, that's for sure.
@@SuperAWaC Which is why they been fined millions of $ for cost overruns, bribery, and accounting frauds for the F-22 and F-35 programs. The US government screw itself (as usual) in giving Lockheed 2 of the most expensive programs in US military history when they could had spread the risk and gone with the Boeing/Northrup YF-23
@@JS-ob4oh boeing isn't doing any better.
yup refreshing to see honour and pride in manufacturing a true rarity today
US military doctrine: "if it moves stick more M2s on it!"
"Needs more daka"
@@Squashy5107 Your dakka needs more k. 100 % more to be precise.
If it moves, and it’s supposed to, put an M2 on it.
If it moves, and it’s not supposed to, shoot it with an M2
I'm in NZ. I was 9 years old in 1982. My grandfather took me to an NZ Army Display (recruitment drive?) where they had all sorts of arms, armour and transport vehicles on show for the civvies to operate and handle under supervision. I remember struggling to charge the bolt on the Browning .50 mounted on a tripod, couldn't do it, lol! The group of young oiks were having a good laugh at my expense, till one of them showed how to do it, and i did it. Felt proud. that day I also played around with a Bren, Stirling and SLR.
Colour this Aussie green with envy.
@@markfryer9880I have an ar-15, several berettas, a beneli m4, and a scar h in 308 in my room lol. It’s great to be American
Ian is the most brilliant narrator of any firearms autopsies ive ever seen. His knowledge and strategies in both explanation and disassembly/ reassembly along with his well-versed knowledge in design, engineering & manufacturing make his videos a pleasure to watch. His days on the range are an absolute hoot as well as you can see, he clearly loves what he does.
God bless Ian and may his days of his lovecraft remain for many years to come!
I took a minor gunnery course during my service and fell in love with it. Every time I charged the handle felt liberating, and firing it was a spiritual experience.
I read that at "when I pulled the charging handle, I felt like liberating" -
That is also a reasonable feeling.
98 years in service and only now getting an A1 upgrade? Dang.
The first prophet of the Mechanicum, the grandfather of all tech priests, designed it, so yeah.
@@ekscalybur Wouldn't be surprised if this is still around when the time comes to purge filthy xenos and heretics.
Yep. Someone finally realized that now we have the ability to control the tolerances well enough that we can set headspace at the factory.
I wonder how long before they introduce the A2 variant now? A 100 more years?
@@justineallandevelos6491 It's actually astonishing how behind we are on HMG development. The Russian KORD is so lightweight and flexible that it can be used as a medium machine gun. And now apparently the Chinese have an even lighter HMG that can easily be carried around by a single man. This is kind of ridiculous.
I am going to force my soldiers to watch this clockwork orange style so they finally understand to disassemble the damn thing
"You will listen to the holy word of Gun Jesus and learn from it!"
Thanks to several sergeants like this, I'm sure I can still disassemble one of these with my eyes closed even after 10 years out.
@@ekscalybur 30 years. I bet i might even remember how to set the headspace and timing although that is now going to be obsolete.
@@shawnr771
You can test it when the next video comes out.
Sergeant's time training approved.
I was a GM (gunners Mate) in the USCG and I loved the M2HB we had aboard the medium endurance cutter I served on. On a smaller patrol boat we had M60s. What a great weapon!
Just like your own mother, "ma deuce" always loves you no matter what.
Even in your early years- during the 1920's and 1930's when you haven't fully realized how special she really is, "ma deuce" still loves you.
Even during the turbulent 1940's- when you aren't sure which company manufactured her, it doesn't matter because "ma deuce" still loves you.
Even without her water jacket, you realize how beautiful she still is- but even if you hadn't noticed it wouldn't really matter, because "ma deuce" still loves you.
Even when you try to replace her with the M85, saying stuff like "look how much shorter her receiver is- you are sooo fat ma deuce" but then you feel dumb because it turns out M85 sucked it _still_ doesn't matter- she will gladly take up her old place in the armored vehicle by your side when the ordeal is over, because "ma deuce" still loves you.
And even now... in her old age... when you stay stuff like "ma deuce you are really getting old- we should at least consider putting you in for that upgrade to fixed headspacing and quick change barrels- these are your twilight years and you deserve to enjoy yourself- maybe even meet an old Bofors cannon, you never know!"... she just looks at you and smiles... however the hell a .50 caliber machine gun would smile (probably missing most of her teeth and you aren't sure you knew if they were ever there to begin with)... and you realize that "ma deuce" still loves you.
Love you Ma Duce!
Poetry
I cried
Epic poetry my brother, when the timing is right on these it functions like a sewing machine
I read this like a children's book 😭 idk why but this is kinda sweet
I remember reading in a book years ago...the last M2 gunner probably hasn't even been born yet.
These things are gonna be around looong after most societies have gone down the WC lol
@@josemitakodachirecruit2004 fucking dolphin people will probably use it to wage war again
@@KhoaLe-uc2ny they sit there thinking of improvements to make, but then realize that there aren’t any
That'll still be true when the person who wrote that book passes away.
@@TheWizardGamez a bayonet could certainly help. You may say... "but with a recoiling barrel you can't attach a bayonet" to which I say "you think a jab to the goo will fuck up the bolt, firing pin, or move anything at all?".
You may say "but who's going to be able to hoist this thing up?" To which I reply "limited minds... you must mount this on a vehicle, or in a fixed position. On a vehicle you act like an antimaterial Lancer, and in a fixed position you act as an anti-scout car pikeman"
So yes, improvements can be made you see!
John M. Browning: „I Wonder how long this .50 cal will be around.“
Mad Max: „We have a Ma Deuce. Let’s use it to arm the truck with the most prestigious cargo: the toilet paper truck.“
2021 Australia, colourized?
I think if John Browning were alive today, he would be astounded that his invention has remained widely in service for now a century.
He was very much a perfectionist and was always trying to improve his own designs.
I honestly think he would be a bit disappointed that no one could come up with anything better despite having a century to do it.
@OrtadragoonX He'd probably be pretty impressed with the A1 upgrades though.
"We're gonna go shoot this tomorrow- which will be a TREMENDOUS amount of fun." Yes
*YES!*
I suspected it was going to be followed by a shooting video, since it's Friday, and he's where he can shoot such a beast.
You must be joking? Ian: I never joke about my work
@@MrDgwphotos it is very fun ive shot two machine guns in my life a .50 bmg browning like this one i dont remember if it was the heavy barrel version or whatever but i shot one and a thompson but the fun isnt why we have them its to help fight against tyrannical "laws" that the government tries to "pass" that goes against the constitution
My father trained on the quad mounted, recirculating engine coolant version in WWII used on ship mounted AA.
Ah, was just thinking about that in mounted positions, constant flow water jackets versus cooling systems and 'normalizing' the guns warm-to-hot, but always consistent...
I remember reading about a m2 that went in for service and the armorer looked up its service log and found it was put into service prior to ww2 and still operating.
Friend of mine had one on his Stryker made during the Korean War.
This is probably the story you are thinking of: From 7 Aug 2020, s/n 324 was found at Anniston Army Depot during upgrading of the M2 to the M2A1 config. This gun had remained in US Army inventory for almost 90 years and had never been overhauled. This gun was manufactured in 1933 but was found to still exceed tolerances better than newer examples made today. That's impressive workmanship!
The depot was trying to save the gun for one of the Army museums. I hope it made it to the new Army museum at Ft. Belvoir.
More here:
www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/oldest-m2-browning-50-caliber-mg-still-in-service/383060
Just a thought, we were trained to never leave the charging handle in the rear after charging the weapon, put it back in its forward position, possibility of parts damage if you let the bolt push it forward. When I taught Kuwaitis the M1A2 Abrams one change I fell in love with was the M2HBE1 built by SACO, iirc. major change was a quick change, fixed headspace barrel. Still had a headspace and timing gauge, but the headspace was either good, or try another barrel, no adjustment was possible. Timing was still the same.
Lots of my scouts complained that they had to fight the machine gun to put boolets on target. Standard answer was fix your equilibrator. Really a pain in the butt to do and you had to remember to adjust it with a full ammo can attached, bullets, rocks, either works, need the weight to make it balance. My kuwaitis glommed onto this right off and they would have embarrassed my scouts until I taught them to adjust their WWII era equilibrators on the M113s. Abrams equilibrator was more modern and easier to fiddle with, but you still needed a full ammo can when adjusting.
Have you done the .50 cal M85 MG yet. Got me some war stories there, too. Oh for the love of a synch arm. If you had a good one you never left it in the tank. Some SOB would steal it as soon as you turned your back. Also easily broken when used by 1D10Ts. (you'll figure it out).
Also, the barrel, bolt, barrel extension and buffer housing recoil as a unit until the buffer extension reaches it's limit of travel. The barrel and barrel extension continue rearward travel, forcing the accelerator lever to accelerate the bolt rearward. They don't slow squat. They are accelerators, not bolt slower downers. Once the bolt has been 'accelerated' the barrel, barrel extension and buffer housing return to their original position pushed by the buffer spring. followed by the bolt with a new boolet if in auto mode.
Oh heck, my M85 war story follows. If you visited a tank range at Ft Carson CO in the early 80's almost every TC fired his M85 on high rate, contributing to breakage, it was intended for anti-aircraft use. Use low rate (about the same as the M2's) for ground targets. If you heard an M85 going 'BURRRRRRRRRRT' wasn't me. If you heard Bup Bup Bup Bup Bup... That was me. May have been the only tanker in the army to shoot his M85 on low rate routinely. I liked putting a belt in the ammo tray at the beginning of gunnery training and still using the same belt on the qualification range.
On the platoon qualification range, TTX, IIRC I'd put one belt in the tray, two more in the ammo storage below my feet and trained my gunner to grab one and hold it up to me so I could reload. Time it right and you could do it buttoned up, (needed about 10-12 boolets left in the existing belt),otherwise reloading an empty M85 required exposing yourself because you had to open it up from on top to put the belt into the MG. (You could theoretically do it buttoned up but do it once and you'll never do it again.)
My habit was to use the rangefinder to get the range to my target, use it again for my gunner's target and announce it to him in case the ballistic computer didn't get the input from my rangefinder. Use my sight on my target, shoot as few boolets as needed to kill the target, and move on. On the platoon qual I made a point of exhausting my first belt so I had to practice the reload. Probably the only guy that did that, too.
One time in qualification I started out the engagement as normal, ranged my target, ranged my gunner's target announced the range and the the 'Gunner, Heat, PC, Diver move out, Gunner take over, Caliber 50!' He did his thing and killed the BMP target. I engaged my troop target, one shot and stopped, no response from the trigger. Grabbed charging chain handle and yanked, No response from electrical trigger, Yanked manual firing chain handle *BANGI* and nothing. Charged, yanked *BANG*, Charged, yanked *BANG* Target TC complete, driver back up. Left hand bled like a stuck pig after banging around the cupola manual controls. Wrapped it up with a handkerchief and motored on. qualified as expected.
On the TTVII practice range (TTVIII but for practice) we had an NBC engagement requiring us to mask up and attach to our tank's NBC systems. Only one engagement and then it's magically 'all clear'. Pulled up to the starting position and when the tower asked if I was ready I said 'Hold that thought, GAS, GAS, GAS!. My crew did their thing as did I. Tower complained 'this isn't the gas engagement.' My reply, 'you don't get it, for my guys this is the TTVII NBC range, they're all gas engagements. Let's go.' Probably the only guy to do that too. Fired a qualifying score. SMAJ was not happy. Not my problem, he didn't rate me.
Give him credit though, he thoroughly cussed out my Troop CO for not giving me a max rating for the period, which he subsequently did. CSM Jeff Fields I wasn't wearing cooks whites. I was a working tanker and had just come out from under a tank to attend my driver's Art 15 hearing for having a pistol in the barracks that I found and turned over to the XO. I think you were pissed that I bucked the 'max him' chorus and the RCO agreed with me instead of my PSG, 1sg, CO, Sqdn CSM, Sqdn CO, Regt'l CSM.
At the time I was one of very few official NCO platoon leaders. Usually, a lieutenant's position but this one was mine. Position got converted later and I became a 'mere' PSG.
@@johnallison820
Ummm kinda sorta right but out of order
it's funny whenever something is considered obsolete but then shortly after finds a perfect matching situation M-14s were pushed out for M-16s but then desert storm came along and all the sudden they need a long range gun, AT rifles are obsolete but then anti material rifles are wanted
I remember when the Afghanistan war was just starting, I saw videos of the military opening crates of M14s.
What a lovely Christmas gift! Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays every one!
Happy Yule!
Same to you!
Io Saturnalia!
B-52 Bomber crew: "I serve this airplane, as did my father, and his father before him".
M2 .50 cal crew: "Oh cute, you think that's impressive..."
The B-52 are the orginal aircraft though.
@@mathiasbartl9393 the M-2 I sat behind on top of our M-113 in the '90s was of WW2 vintage and was made by Frigidaire
@@mathiasbartl9393 The last B-52H produced was delivered on 26 October 1962. I’m sure there are older M2s in service, but there are also more recent production weapons.
Still more impressive given the tolerances for aircraft.
@@Imbeachedwhale I'm not sure they ever did need to manufacture more of these after WW2. 2 million guns is waay more than needed for active service today.
“We want a full auto modern anti-tank rifle”
“Ok”
the genius of browning knew no bounds
And they have pushed on and adopted the A1version with fixed headspace and timing, as you said, and the barrels are delicious for quick change, and fully interchangeable.. For a Blank Firing Adapter, you have to unscrew the break and put on a special one, THEN put the BFA on, as well as the feed assembly additions that are standard for the m2. The semi-auto hold open is standard issue for the Army. Literally every one I have ever fired has had it (And I have employed quite a lot of them over the years.) I love how you have gone full traditional and used the gun to disassemble the gun.
Also, important note: The bolt MUST be forward for you to take off the backplate. If you do not do that, it WILL shoot out and possibly impale you. Also, you don't push the feed change in, you actually pull it out after removing the feed pall on the bolt carrier and rotate it. The bolt carrier is a fascinating design, and I am a little sad you didn't disassemble that, though I know it can be a bit of a chore. Been waiting to see this one on here for a long time, nice to see such a beaut!
“They were selling these commercially in the 1920s” god I wish they still could
Imagine that, yeah I mount this in my pickup for hunting rabbit quail and duck lol
America, pickup & M2. American technical?
Sounds fun until you realize that even the standard fmj rounds are $10+ a piece.
On my APC I’d fire 1-2 round spotting bursts and once laid on 4-6 rd killing bursts with no more than two required. Very easy MG to clean after decades firing gas operated guns. My only concern was the small springs that broke in the top cover.
They were only sold to militaries.
"Two world wars!!!" -1911
"Someone hold my beer" -M2
Don’t the Marines still use the 1911. I know the Sig is replacing all handguns though
@@MeanLaQueefa I think they used a custom 1911, the M45, until they recently chose to have them replaced with Glock-19s.
@@MeanLaQueefa Not anymore. 1911 is a good gun, but modern handguns are a more practical choice.
@@24YOA agreed.
@@MeanLaQueefa yeah, the m17/18 is replacing the beretta in some branches of the military
I was a platoon armorer my last year in service in the Army, and we were just getting the new ones in. Neither myself nor any other armorer was a big fan of them. The advantage of fixed headspace and timing was sort of lost when it also meant every receiver had two specific barrels rather than just being able to grab a barrel from a pile to use. It's not such an issue with smaller guns such as the M249, but M2 barrels are massive. They also had this sort of ceramic muzzle device that was a glutton for finding new and creative ways to shatter.
We had two of them in Viet Nam and it seemed at any one time we only had one set of timing gauges. Guys were always putting it in a pocket and could not find it when they needed it. Jungle fatigues had too many big cargo pockets. Combat Engineers.
Current small arms repairman here. I can't say that I've ever heard of needing to match barrels for the M2A1. Every time I've serviced a unit's fifties, we got a pile of guns and a pile of barrels, and never had them be out of spec. That being said, maybe they changed something before I started up.
The barrels on the M2A1 are NOT matched to the receiver for head space purpose
The barrels are completely swappable from any M2A1 to any other M2 A1
What you describe is actually debunked in the -10 which clearly states the barrels are not matched to the receiver
When John Browning designed perfection, why try to make it better. Sure brings back memories, when they sent the 18th Eng Bde home from Vietnam, the personal and equipment was transferred to various sub-units, I went to the 45th Eng Gp. We convoyed from CamRahn Bay (Dong Ba Thin) North on QL1 to Da Nang (Camp Haskins) where the 45th had just moved down from Phu Bi to take over the camp where the Marines occupied till their pull out in early 1971. We had a couple of Gun Trucks that escorted us on the entire drive, the one that I liked the best had a quad 50 cal on a revolving platform that could cover both sides and the rear, as well as two M-60 Machine guns, one on each front corner of the box. Lots of fire power, we did take fire a couple of times but it was quickly put down by the two gun trucks. These were 2 1/2 ton trucks, and had armor in place on all sides of the cab as well as armor where the windshields had once been, slots allowed the driver to see out both sides and directly in front of the truck. They were very efficient, I know I would think twice before I took a shot at one of those beasts with an SKS or AK.
"Now I have a machine gun...ho ho ho"
Merry Christmas folks
Just watched die hard last night
Welcome to the party, pal!
A security guard we missed?
Yippee Kai-yay, gentlemen.
So in the 20's and 30's these were commercially available? Damned if any revenuer is going to bust up my still!
we need time travel
The Thompson 45, the BAR, back then the gun wasn't a problem, we still blamed the criminal on how they were used, regretfully the gangs of the 20's is what caused the banning of these amazing weapons in civilian use.
@@scout2nut search "yankee boogle" if you got an ar 😉
Given the cost of .50 BMG today I suspect back then you'd have to be incredibly wealthy to afford enough ammo to shoot it. When you can buy a hamburger for a nickel spending several dollars on a single round must've been painful even to the wealthier enthusiasts. Then again people are spending upwards of 60 cents a round for 9mm right now so I guess it's all about priorities lol
@@MrMattumbo or a dollar a round of 5.56
I live near Camp Lejeune and my buddy in the Marines was telling me that they recently removed a Frigidaire manufactured M2 from service, if I remember right the unit had nicknamed the gun Silver Back because the finish had worn all the top half of the gun, but they where able to trace the service of the M2 back to the army air corp in use in the European theater. The gun was taken out of service and it is suppose to end up on display at the Museum of the Marine that is being built next to the Beirut Memorial.
23:56 I love that they've made so many of these that the serial number doesn't fit the alotted space and they had to squeeze two numbers in after stamping it.
Browning M2 - a masterclass in design and the principle of "if it 'ain't broke, don't fix it". 100 years and counting with only minor tweaks and upgrades, remarkable achievement.
"Strap in guys, it's gonna be a long video"
* looks at video length *
*oh crap*
LET'S GOOOOOOO
My response was "Yeee-hawww!"
Coward
*laughs in Drachinifel*
Gun Jesus bring us some Christmas cheer!
Fired about 12 rounds or less at ft polk la. During AIT july/Aug. 1970. Never touched it again,even the 5 mo. In Nam as a 11Bravo. Awesome weapon!
Mark my words, the M2 will see action in the first war against aliens.
Brother, get the stubber! The heavy stubber!
I'm sure somewhere in the stargate universe, in one episode they just set up a 50 cal and empty a belt into a gate set to an enemy world.
Alien Marine fires 2mm coil gun, 2,000RPM, tungsten grav-core-compressed projectile at 12,000mph
Humans turn to pink mist at 5miles after the projectile has already gone though a brick wall (or rather, the expanding cloud of plasma whacks the Humans).
Aliens say:
"WE PROBE U, HUMIES!
YOU NO BEAT US WITH APPLE MACS AND AR15s,
YOU PRIMITIVE SCREWHEADS!" :P
@@letsburn00 They had an episode where Jack O'Neil mans a M2HB mounted on a ATV
Browning M2, the OG heavy bolter :D
this video is some sort of early Christmas gift for me
Wait,how do you wrote this comment 1 month ago? The video just came out 3 minutes ago 🤔
You goddamn right it is
@@greekboygreekboy3201 Patreon
This was uploaded 5min ago.
Are you a time traveler?
Or is Ian the time traveler?
@@partyrobbins4690 Went live. Not uploaded.
I’m surprised that there was no mention of a safety, or lack thereof. We used a empty case wedged under the trigger as a safety.
Guns ain't safe
@@RalphReagan The Best Safety Is The One In Your Head.
Great field expedient idea.
I've seen some in Norwegian service retrofitted with a hinged safety that swings in under the trigger to block it. That was mainly used because we always had the guns in modern soft mounts with a "bicycle brake" trigger handle that actuated the sear bar from the side. Spade grip and original trigger was rarely used, may as well block that trigger.
Ours have safeties just to the right of the trigger.
I was a HMG gunner with a one meter turret and that gun was stamped 1942 General Electric spark plug Coy.
The QCB was a easy solution for the gunner to have to adjust the head space and timing for the 12.7mm.
It caused havoc initially with the degradation of HMG gunner skill set.
A whole video could be spent on the bolt strip and assembly which is as fun as pitting the accelerator assembly with the bolt into the main body again.
Many boot laces have been sacrificed in the repair of rockies trying to assemble a "fired" position bolt back into the HMG.
Good bless the procurement gods that has kept this gun safe for the CAF! From Germany, Croatia, Bosnia Hertz, Macedonia, Kosovo, Africa and Somalia, into Afghanistan and Iraq a great HMG that jad so many usses.
Cheers
Love the video
The Browning M2, a weapon so perfectly designed that not even a USMC drill instructor can find anything wrong with it.
yeah they can, it's too heavy for a marine to fire it from the hip (although I'm sure at least a few enterprising marines tried anyway).
It's not clean enough...
@@briant7652 nothing ever is.
Never would have guessed it was that easy to take apart such a brilliant design Thanks for sharing Ian enjoyed it take care
It's not. That was not a full disassembly. That was just the major component parts pulled out. He didn't go into disassembly of the bolt itself, which is an additional 11 parts (if I remember correctly) and is like trying to take apart and put back together a tavern puzzle consisting entirely of tiny springs and pins while the whole thing is slathered in lube.
@@Rustman80 Interesting exposing more of the ingenious internals of the making of it love to see that... looking forward today seeing it in action!
Imagine being a German pilot and being shot at by a machine gun manufactured by a refrigerator company.
Imagine being an American soldier being shot at by a tank designed by Mr. Porsche
Imagine being an American pilot in Japan and being shot by a plane from the same maker as your buddy's idiot drift car.
@Reagan James imagine being the only “mechanized army” in Europe and then a real mechanized army comes with 50,000 Shermans
@@thetalesofdaneandco if you hate on different car builds just because of personal bias you’re not a car person hahaha
Some people provably think American cars are idiotic
Well, since we got that thing as well now, Imagine being a German shooting one of these things at refrigerators for target practice...
Nice to see the old girl again, Thank you Ian. I served in the SADF . We set the head space with, 'Go= No Go' gauges. Tungsten carbide block that you screwed the barrel back til one side the gauge fitted and the no= go did not. slight adjustment changed the firing rate a bit. Our .30 cal MG's were changed. trigger group was changed to fire from an open bolt for more cooling and no cook off . Both are very reliable. Thank You Ian.
As a former company armorer for a tank company in Ft Carson, Colorado (D co, 3/68AR), I really appreciate you reviewing this beast. I lugged one of these baby's on my shoulder from the company armorer room to the tank bays soooo many times that I still recall the pain nearly 30 years later.
I've already made a GIF of Ian racking the M2
Your awesome
Doing the Lord's work.
My pops spent 23 years in the army, including 2 trips to veitnam. He was a platoon Sargent over a tank platoon. The M2 was his favorite weapon of all time!
I visited the Canadian navy frigate, HMCS Winnipeg. On this ship I was shown an M2 .50cal mounted in a remote weapons station, that was made 1941 and had been in continuous navy service since then
Up next the mk19... Merry Christmas from Maine.
Oh yah, you've got to rack that twice to rock n roll.
@@44musher The ghost round must be properly sacrificed to the machine gods. The litany is sacrosanct, you are dealing with a grenade launching machine gun.
Between the MK19 and M2, I am hard pressed to figure out which one was my favorite.
Hey Ian! You probably don’t remember me, but we used to shoot 2GACM back in the day. To the point, you have two details backwards. First, The accelerator tips in the buffer body don’t delay the action. They literally accelerate it. The short recoil system means the recoil acts upon the barrel, pushing the entire barrel extension>bolt>buffer body rearwards. When the buffer body stops against the back plate, it causes the back of the barrel extension to act on the accelerator tips, which pushes the bolt rearward for primary extraction. The spring in the buffer itself retards the accelerator tips until chamber pressure drops. fun fact; the buffer used to be an actual oil filled system with no spring. It used mechanically generated hydraulic pressure to delay the action. It had a Swiss cheese plate moving through the oil medium that delayed the action. Much like the Blish mechanism of a Thompson, it was deemed redundant. The second detail; the feed tray itself does not need to be swapped completely. All present parts, minus the front cartridge stop, need only be reconfigured to allow right hand feed. Unless this is some technical detail of the older guns I’m not familiar with. Maybe someday if the stars align I can shoot another match with you and Karl again. Best of luck, and happy new year!
I was confused that a component called an accelerator would 'delay' a specific function, the M1 rifle's accelerator is similar in form. You seemed to be knowledgeable on the M2, can the rate of fire be controlled by changing the 'buffer'?
We had an M2 CROWS-2 mount on my second tour and the fire control computer could do a “low cyclic rate” full auto, which was tremendously useful. You could fire with pretty shocking accuracy and stretch out the ammo supply in the process. It basically turned our platoon sgt’s maxpro into a rolling 50 cal SASS.
Audie Murphy received his Medal of Honor for holding off a Germany armor/infantry attack firing a M2 off the back of a burning tank destroyer that could have blown up at any moment. Also, LTC William Jones was last seen on the back of a jeep firing a .50 into a mass Japanese attack on Saipan, and when the position was recaptured, his body was surrounded by many enemy soldiers he killed before succumbing to his wounds. Many former American service members have deep feelings of regard for this weapon.