I just got back into my old account after not playing for a long long time,I was worried my character was hacked or worse id never get moongoddes back but i did!! So stoked but now i want to learn how to play all over again,find a guild,and make my night elf priest a better healer. Thanks for the tips
Played a priest in vanilla, but did a rogue first this time. ( I also did a rogue in Vanilla) But, as my new dwarf priest nears 60 (She is 56 at the time of this writing) I've been looking up multiple guides just to refresh my memory and see what people are saying these days. This guide is definitely the best one I've watched so far. Good job!
I think the Bartender4 addon has an option to enable mouse-over casting for abilities on your spell bar. Very nice for someone who doesn't want to spend time writing their own macros.
I want to just put this out there also.. I have never played a healing priest before so everyone who sits here and say "everyone should know how to do this" is forgetting some people are trying new things.... Not everyone has played every class specially in a classic wow setting. Thanks for the tips I will put them to good use =)
PW:S Is definitely way more beneficial than people give credit. Predictive damage, LOTS of fights in BWL, Lab packs, Trash in AQ. It should definitely be used way more often than most people say.
OMG! So I play a human priest and I was using Flash Heal often. Yeah the mana conservation struggle is real, but I felt that its speed easily off-set the mana cost. Anyways, glad I wasn't the only crazy one that thought that was a good idea. Guildies convinced me to try lower rank heals (renew, heal) to lower rank flash heal. Trying it, but with your video, I feel like I'm back to the drawing board. Thank you! Will be checking out your blog.
I did my first MC yesterday and I felt the same. We were 8 healers and if I weren't using flash heal, by the time I cast lets say heal, they would have already been healed especially since we had 3 Shamans who had constant chain heals on. If the raid are speedy, I personally think the best approach is to use flash heal.
Oh Dear, Higher stam items and more int isn't the best way... It's all about downranking to manage your mana. Nice video and I love the way you explain things. Just make sure you don't let people down with info.
bonus tip 1: if there is ever some downtime in the middle of a fight and you start getting mp5 ticks don't be shy to use your inner fire to keep the ticks going 2-4 times more it really makes a world of diffrence Bonus tip 2: make a macro for renew that lets your warlocks know they have been renewed they will love you for it and you can use it as soon as they start getting low on mana even if they are sitting on full hp still :D
tip #5: Keep Fade Handy. YES! The 5 piece T2 set bonus has an "Auto Fade" like feature that is REALLY helpful for groups that have a tank that has trouble grabbing aggro. it procs ALOT with crappy or struggling tanks and is well worth dropping some spell power for a dungeon pug group.
@@SilviteSoltis robes, pants and boots of T2 gear are not needed. boots of pure thought, empowered leggings and truefaith vestments are what i use. also i swap out to the zandalar belt and shoulders for raids, dropping to a 3 piece for T2.
@@vegaswould yeah I've got the empowered leggings, so not too concerned with picking up the t2 pants. Definitely need a new robe though, since i'm too cheap to craft Truefaith and am still rocking the ones from Strat UD. Problem there is that my guild has yet to see even 1 priest robe drop from nef (on farm for 3 months already) and i'm pretty low on the loot ladder atm XD pretty much banking on the aq40 robes at this point.
Renew is so good with it benefiting 100% from your healing power but it’s only good situationally. Being disc I only use on mt when there’s no holy priests. I never use in bigger raids as it just gets sniped. Flash heal is the better option imo
I've also ran with a deep disc talent build, and offer top charts with other healing classes with a low Overheal comparatively. I've been playing a Discipline priest since 2004. Going disc doesn't mean you are sacrificing your ability to be a "strong healer", there is no reason why you can't keep up with other healing classes and Holy priests. Just gotta find your place.
@@hobbitpsi In 60 you're always going to be in two pools either way. If you're deep holy you usually still be 21 in Disc for Divine Spirit. If you're deep disc you still put like 19 into holy.
Whats the difference between headache caused by setting up and remembering weird addon keybindings or headache caused by setting up and remembering weird mouseover macro keybindings?
just had one of the most humiliating times gaming ever - I just wanted to casually play some wow, played some on duskhaven, queue for dungeon, and apparently i'm so bad everyone just called me names... i know its just a game and ignore them but it sucked
Nice video! This is my first time playing priest and I'm having a blast. Probably shouldn't include that Force of Will talent in your PI spec though ;)
Yeah that was what WoWhead had up and I was quite conflicted about taking it personally. Glad I did though. Having the extra damage is awesome for trash, dungeons, and soloing as a healer. Basically trade reduced threat for it too, so, meh. ;)
Interesting. I kind of assumed that most guilds have at least one spriest at this point for the shadow weaving buff, but definitely a cool idea for anyone in a guild without one.
@@SilviteSoltis funnily enough, the highest ranked guilds dont take any spriest, since a healer can just take shadow weaving and just be slightly less effective heals.
is it weird I've been playing for 15 years (a lot of the times as a healer) and never used a mouseover macro once? I like the weird shift and alt keys the healing addons have naturally. I know I would be a better player if I used mouseovers but it just never clicked with me, idk?
Basically start casting a heal before the tank takes damage, then if they don't take any damage, cancel the cast by moving, jumping (if you're bad like me), or a stopcasting macro.
Because most sites would remove Tier 1 priest robes and say use the pre bis ones for more raw healing but the stats suck. Truefaith Vestments gives you 73 heals and 6 mana per 5 second but 0 spirit or intellect compared to high stats of tier 1 robes which means bigger pool of mana and more heals to cast. Once you get tier 2 robes it voids it all out because now you got good heals and high stats
I left a remark at another guys video but I'm going to ask here too. As a new priest I have been following the advice I see in video's like this: spell ranks, mouseover macro's(love them) but in a raid I am dead last in healing. I notice over and over again that the other priests, including the #1 healing priest, all use exclusively Flash Heal and Renew. That's it. How do they not run out of mana? How can they do this thing that every video I see says not to do and they do it successfully? What am I doing wrong?
Hi. It might have to do with your gear and who you're healing. Gear-wise, you need quite a bit to spam heals without going oom. Do you have the addon HealCommsClassic? It shows who is being targetted for a heal, so you don't end up wasting mana on someone who's about to get healed anyway. Finally, do you use pw:s at all? The damage prevented can really help tank survival, though it reduces their threat gen a bit. Check with your healing team about who is using it and when.
@@SilviteSoltis Thank you so much for answering me. I think you nailed it about the gear. I have terrible gear and terrible rng. I am not brought into BWL because we have so many priests and all much better geared than me and they get weekly gear upgrades. I really do wonder why they recruited me at all when I all I do is sit on the bench and only get to MC or Ony when they bring in their alts. So frustrating to want to play a character and can't! Ah well, maybe someday :)
@@user-wn5ld9ny1i Sounds like you need to find a guild that is in greater need of priests, or try to get pulled into the MC runs by talking to the ones in charge of setting those up. There's also a ton of ZG pugs going on most servers where you can grab some of the best items available outside of BWL (if your guild doesn't take you to those). Either way though, I'd suggest shopping around. ;) Good luck out there!
They're most likely using differing ranks of flash heal. Depending on the raid/boss I use rank 1 flash heal for long drawn out fights that dont do insane damage consecutively and rank 4 for when abit more damage is coming in and rank 7 as an emergency, but this does depend on healing power and overall mana. Recommend at least 450 healing power and 5900 mana
What do your healing comps look like? Horde or ally? Sounds like ur priests are just sniping for heals. Do you guys struggle in bwl? How much are they overhealing? Parses don't always tell the full story. In my raids spamming rank 2 heal (I am pretty geared) has always performed better in the longer fights of bwl. I spam flash in mc because you don't really need to worry about conserving Mana.
^_^ glad to be of service. A redditer suggested adding cancel cast commands to the healing macros, if you're interested in trying those out too (I'll stick to moving/jumping). ;)
I have a question! i never play with Macros ever! Even back in Vanilla days, I copied and pasted your PI macro and i got a warning that i'd could get banned or something. so i kinda went with it and then my game crash.. I'm really worried now...
You never throw away different ranks. You can't delete lower ranks you just select different ones. HIgh rank heals are good for early on when you're fresh but you start getting over 700 in bonus heals you down ranking big time. No reason to have say 1100 in bonus heals and cast high rank heals. You're overhealing and wasting mana
Whats your opinion on parsing as a healer? I always feel like i perform well but when i look at logs i feel discouraged due to the fact i'm consistently between grey (on dispell heavy fights) and blue. The priests in my guild have a habit of only using flash heal and log wise it looks great, but to me i find it frustrating as i don't like burning through so much mana so quickly and cheesing the logs by pet healing or sniping off of others
Parses are overrated so long as the boss dies imo. That said, flash heal can help a lot in staggering the heals the tank takes. Atm my guild has about 7-8healers assigned to the tanks for bosses in bwl to make sure the tank's always getting heals. I spam flash heal rank 2 now that my gear is decent ;)
Katie Round depending on the fight if is a long one use heal and some shields and preserve ur mana, if is short like mc boses use flash heal and shield allways use shield on the tank in mc is easy to get good parse..for bwl on the dragons you need to shield only wen shadow flame will be cast so you protec the tank(will increase ur parse overall)
best healing guide for priest on youtube, short, sweet, and to the point
I've got my first BWL / MC raid tonight, since I was a teenager, playing a 60 Holy UD Priest. Thanks for some of these tips! :)
You're welcome! I hope everything goes well - and that you get some phat lewtz! ;)
I’ve watched this video so many times I almost have it memorized haha... Thank you so much for a great video! Love, a fellow troll priest.
Leveling my priest now, thanks so much, what an awesome guide!
The mouse over macros was very helpful. Thank you
I just got back into my old account after not playing for a long long time,I was worried my character was hacked or worse id never get moongoddes back but i did!! So stoked but now i want to learn how to play all over again,find a guild,and make my night elf priest a better healer. Thanks for the tips
Good Lord. I think I want to roll a troll priest with green hair and I dont even play wow anymore.
Fantastic video !
Had a tank in SFK tell me to never use powerword shield on the tank. I definitely agree people make things harder than it should be.
Especially in Hardcore lol. Safety first
yea same from yesterday.. reason was "not generated enough rage"
Played a priest in vanilla, but did a rogue first this time. ( I also did a rogue in Vanilla) But, as my new dwarf priest nears 60 (She is 56 at the time of this writing) I've been looking up multiple guides just to refresh my memory and see what people are saying these days. This guide is definitely the best one I've watched so far. Good job!
Thanks a lot! I'm glad you found it useful! ^_^
I think the Bartender4 addon has an option to enable mouse-over casting for abilities on your spell bar. Very nice for someone who doesn't want to spend time writing their own macros.
Thanks for the useful tips
Spot on on Bis dude. It's what I think too. Balance the key.
I want to just put this out there also.. I have never played a healing priest before so everyone who sits here and say "everyone should know how to do this" is forgetting some people are trying new things.... Not everyone has played every class specially in a classic wow setting. Thanks for the tips I will put them to good use =)
Thank you for the guide, im really surprised how interesting is priest in classic!
PW:S Is definitely way more beneficial than people give credit. Predictive damage, LOTS of fights in BWL, Lab packs, Trash in AQ. It should definitely be used way more often than most people say.
still best Heal Priest Guide - thank you!
You're welcome! I'm glad you find it useful! ^_^
SilviteSoltis I just deleted Healbot and creating my Macros, haha!
I'm on my first char and It is a priest level 46 so far! I am using shadow until 60 and then spec into healy priest =)
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing your tips.
OMG! So I play a human priest and I was using Flash Heal often. Yeah the mana conservation struggle is real, but I felt that its speed easily off-set the mana cost. Anyways, glad I wasn't the only crazy one that thought that was a good idea. Guildies convinced me to try lower rank heals (renew, heal) to lower rank flash heal. Trying it, but with your video, I feel like I'm back to the drawing board. Thank you! Will be checking out your blog.
I did my first MC yesterday and I felt the same. We were 8 healers and if I weren't using flash heal, by the time I cast lets say heal, they would have already been healed especially since we had 3 Shamans who had constant chain heals on. If the raid are speedy, I personally think the best approach is to use flash heal.
Oh Dear, Higher stam items and more int isn't the best way... It's all about downranking to manage your mana. Nice video and I love the way you explain things. Just make sure you don't let people down with info.
bonus tip 1: if there is ever some downtime in the middle of a fight and you start getting mp5 ticks don't be shy to use your inner fire to keep the ticks going 2-4 times more it really makes a world of diffrence
Bonus tip 2: make a macro for renew that lets your warlocks know they have been renewed they will love you for it and you can use it as soon as they start getting low on mana even if they are sitting on full hp still :D
I presume you mean inner focus, not inner fire, as the latter will consume mana and get you out of the OOC regen.
@@notSDF aah, yeah was a mistake by me!
@@Lhimelight no worries, bud, it happens. my apologies for commenting on an old comment in such a fashion, stay safe.
Super good vid, great style
Great video man. Thanks!
This guide is perfect, well done sir
Thanks! I'm glad you found it useful! ^_^
tip #5: Keep Fade Handy. YES! The 5 piece T2 set bonus has an "Auto Fade" like feature that is REALLY helpful for groups that have a tank that has trouble grabbing aggro. it procs ALOT with crappy or struggling tanks and is well worth dropping some spell power for a dungeon pug group.
Yeah i'm hoping to get gloves at some point for that auto-fade. Robes and pants are basically out of my reach at this point though XD
@@SilviteSoltis robes, pants and boots of T2 gear are not needed. boots of pure thought, empowered leggings and truefaith vestments are what i use. also i swap out to the zandalar belt and shoulders for raids, dropping to a 3 piece for T2.
@@vegaswould yeah I've got the empowered leggings, so not too concerned with picking up the t2 pants. Definitely need a new robe though, since i'm too cheap to craft Truefaith and am still rocking the ones from Strat UD. Problem there is that my guild has yet to see even 1 priest robe drop from nef (on farm for 3 months already) and i'm pretty low on the loot ladder atm XD pretty much banking on the aq40 robes at this point.
Renew is so good with it benefiting 100% from your healing power but it’s only good situationally. Being disc I only use on mt when there’s no holy priests. I never use in bigger raids as it just gets sniped. Flash heal is the better option imo
Great job man! Ty!
Thanks
rly nice video, thanks!
I've also ran with a deep disc talent build, and offer top charts with other healing classes with a low Overheal comparatively. I've been playing a Discipline priest since 2004. Going disc doesn't mean you are sacrificing your ability to be a "strong healer", there is no reason why you can't keep up with other healing classes and Holy priests. Just gotta find your place.
I've always had respect for healers but after watching this video, it just reinforced it. Seems very stressful.
Honestly when looking at the specs I prefer Disc healing over Holy. Like having more utility in parties as opposed to being just a raw healer.
@@hobbitpsi In 60 you're always going to be in two pools either way. If you're deep holy you usually still be 21 in Disc for Divine Spirit. If you're deep disc you still put like 19 into holy.
NEW TIP! in PVP against warr/rogs MC them and use a weak band aid on them to put them on the first aid CD
Whats the difference between headache caused by setting up and remembering weird addon keybindings or headache caused by setting up and remembering weird mouseover macro keybindings?
just had one of the most humiliating times gaming ever - I just wanted to casually play some wow, played some on duskhaven, queue for dungeon, and apparently i'm so bad everyone just called me names... i know its just a game and ignore them but it sucked
I would say use Vuhdo as u will know who is healing who and for how much and who has threat. So will not over heal targets.
nice fucking video.. you blow my mind fam thx
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it useful ^_^
How do you notice when your allies are asleep? Is there an add-on that shows this right on the avatars on the left?
Nice video! This is my first time playing priest and I'm having a blast.
Probably shouldn't include that Force of Will talent in your PI spec though ;)
Yeah that was what WoWhead had up and I was quite conflicted about taking it personally. Glad I did though. Having the extra damage is awesome for trash, dungeons, and soloing as a healer. Basically trade reduced threat for it too, so, meh. ;)
Glad you're enjoying the master class though ;) what race did you go with?
Guess i should be happy with 89,9% parses within PI specc then? ^^
Also nice video (: Hope its going well for you in AQ if still playing.
ty
How to outheal in raids preventing overhealing.
Why is there not a guide for someone who plans to only do dungeons
Nice idea. I'll consider a series on it ;)
you should also talk about PI/shadow weaving! it provides much more utility and dmg for warlocks, adding some variety to the game. :)
Interesting. I kind of assumed that most guilds have at least one spriest at this point for the shadow weaving buff, but definitely a cool idea for anyone in a guild without one.
@@SilviteSoltis funnily enough, the highest ranked guilds dont take any spriest, since a healer can just take shadow weaving and just be slightly less effective heals.
why use downgrade the Heal when you could use Lesser Heal?
Hey you don't talk about the Prayer
Thank you for the video! What is the addon that shows raid members health bars divided into groups and incoming heals?
HealCommsClassic
is it weird I've been playing for 15 years (a lot of the times as a healer) and never used a mouseover macro once? I like the weird shift and alt keys the healing addons have naturally. I know I would be a better player if I used mouseovers but it just never clicked with me, idk?
Here is a tip for u dont jump to cancel heals just step and u can insta cast again instead of waiting for jump to end.
Yeah it's a bad habit of mine. >_
Question: Can you use those healing ranks when doing dungeons ? Or should you use diffrent ones. Newbie here.
Could you explain precasting?
Basically start casting a heal before the tank takes damage, then if they don't take any damage, cancel the cast by moving, jumping (if you're bad like me), or a stopcasting macro.
"Pre-raid bis is not always best." - Then compares a pre-bis item to a raid item. Wtf?
Because most sites would remove Tier 1 priest robes and say use the pre bis ones for more raw healing but the stats suck. Truefaith Vestments gives you 73 heals and 6 mana per 5 second but 0 spirit or intellect compared to high stats of tier 1 robes which means bigger pool of mana and more heals to cast. Once you get tier 2 robes it voids it all out because now you got good heals and high stats
Nice guide, however I prefer Vuhdo.
Hmm... There is no need to downrank Greater Heal? Like Rank1 ?
I left a remark at another guys video but I'm going to ask here too.
As a new priest I have been following the advice I see in video's like this: spell ranks, mouseover macro's(love them) but in a raid I am dead last in healing. I notice over and over again that the other priests, including the #1 healing priest, all use exclusively Flash Heal and Renew. That's it. How do they not run out of mana? How can they do this thing that every video I see says not to do and they do it successfully? What am I doing wrong?
Hi. It might have to do with your gear and who you're healing. Gear-wise, you need quite a bit to spam heals without going oom. Do you have the addon HealCommsClassic? It shows who is being targetted for a heal, so you don't end up wasting mana on someone who's about to get healed anyway. Finally, do you use pw:s at all? The damage prevented can really help tank survival, though it reduces their threat gen a bit. Check with your healing team about who is using it and when.
@@SilviteSoltis
Thank you so much for answering me. I think you nailed it about the gear. I have terrible gear and terrible rng. I am not brought into BWL because we have so many priests and all much better geared than me and they get weekly gear upgrades. I really do wonder why they recruited me at all when I all I do is sit on the bench and only get to MC or Ony when they bring in their alts. So frustrating to want to play a character and can't! Ah well, maybe someday :)
@@user-wn5ld9ny1i Sounds like you need to find a guild that is in greater need of priests, or try to get pulled into the MC runs by talking to the ones in charge of setting those up. There's also a ton of ZG pugs going on most servers where you can grab some of the best items available outside of BWL (if your guild doesn't take you to those). Either way though, I'd suggest shopping around. ;)
Good luck out there!
They're most likely using differing ranks of flash heal. Depending on the raid/boss I use rank 1 flash heal for long drawn out fights that dont do insane damage consecutively and rank 4 for when abit more damage is coming in and rank 7 as an emergency, but this does depend on healing power and overall mana. Recommend at least 450 healing power and 5900 mana
What do your healing comps look like? Horde or ally? Sounds like ur priests are just sniping for heals. Do you guys struggle in bwl? How much are they overhealing? Parses don't always tell the full story. In my raids spamming rank 2 heal (I am pretty geared) has always performed better in the longer fights of bwl. I spam flash in mc because you don't really need to worry about conserving Mana.
I am just getting my priest Alt to 60 so these vids do help,, thx :)
^_^ glad to be of service.
A redditer suggested adding cancel cast commands to the healing macros, if you're interested in trying those out too (I'll stick to moving/jumping).
;)
I have a question! i never play with Macros ever! Even back in Vanilla days, I copied and pasted your PI macro and i got a warning that i'd could get banned or something. so i kinda went with it and then my game crash.. I'm really worried now...
Umm.. but what if i threw away the low rank spells for the better ones.. * gulp *
You never throw away different ranks. You can't delete lower ranks you just select different ones. HIgh rank heals are good for early on when you're fresh but you start getting over 700 in bonus heals you down ranking big time. No reason to have say 1100 in bonus heals and cast high rank heals. You're overhealing and wasting mana
@@DannyP-dm1pw I will heal them all and get all the women.
is it possible to be rank 12 pvp like holy priest?
Definitely possible. You have to grind a lot with a set team from what I understand though.
I'm not super experienced with PVP though.
How are you showing the incoming heals on the raid frames?
It's an addon. HealCommClassic
@@SilviteSoltis Excellent, thank you.
what song are you playing in the background?
At which point? There are a few songs in this one ;)
@@SilviteSoltis i think i love all of them. i mean at 8 sec,..
Really a good choice have been noticed with an older video
Temple of the Moon. ruclips.net/video/sAME_nxccpM/видео.html
Enjoy ;)
Whats your opinion on parsing as a healer? I always feel like i perform well but when i look at logs i feel discouraged due to the fact i'm consistently between grey (on dispell heavy fights) and blue. The priests in my guild have a habit of only using flash heal and log wise it looks great, but to me i find it frustrating as i don't like burning through so much mana so quickly and cheesing the logs by pet healing or sniping off of others
Parses are overrated so long as the boss dies imo. That said, flash heal can help a lot in staggering the heals the tank takes. Atm my guild has about 7-8healers assigned to the tanks for bosses in bwl to make sure the tank's always getting heals. I spam flash heal rank 2 now that my gear is decent ;)
Don't feel bad about dispells though. If people don't dispell, the fight is usually a shitshow :P
@@SilviteSoltis thanks for the quick reply! Looking forward to seeing more videos on priest healing from you 😁
Katie Round depending on the fight if is a long one use heal and some shields and preserve ur mana, if is short like mc boses use flash heal and shield allways use shield on the tank in mc is easy to get good parse..for bwl on the dragons you need to shield only wen shadow flame will be cast so you protec the tank(will increase ur parse overall)
also the buffs you have..from DM, onixia buff and consumables you use during the fight will increase ur parse