Anybody else feel like it's a little weird that we finally got a really smart Christian on JRE, and so many Christians are criticizing him for how he did it? Like, come on guys can we tighten up and focus on the fact that he brought joe closer to Jesus and probably a lot of viewers closer to Jesus.
Everyone will have their criticisms- it's human nature. But yes, when we skip past that part... this opened so many doors. Just to see the evidence on a podcast like this that Jesus was real, that he was crucified and the reason why Wes believes it's a historical fact that he rose... it's profound.❤
The ones criticizing are no bodies or they would’ve been sitting in that seat. …A bunch of non-pastors/teachers telling how to do the job of pastoring/teaching.
Huff wasn't there wasn't there to give a sermon and preach. I'm not entirely certain that's in his skill set. What he was there to do was to have a sit-down interview and answer questions. Wesley was there for apologetics. I think he did a great job representing the faith to viewers that would probably be more likely to tune out if he preached to for 3 hours.
Agree 100%. It followed the normal flow of a JRE interview where Joe asked a lot of questions about his guests area of expertise (ancient biblical texts). To expect Wes to explain the gospel message to Joe for three straight hours isn’t the right expectation.
Makes me think Christians judge themselves "successful" depending on how many times they preach, rather than how authentic and caring their planting and watering are.
Joe Rogan heard the message in the way Joe Rogan needed to hear it. He had many misconceptions regarding Christianity he held for years challenged by someone who studies this stuff upfront. The Gospel isn't just shared one way and frankly, there would be way less saved if it was.
The Christian online community is one of the most judgmental, finger pointing communities I’ve ever come across. Wes did a great job and it was a refreshing natural flowing conversation
I am inclined to think it, like many others, are made up of a few loud voices with a bit of amplification (maybe even maliciously). Or A LOT of people that like the title or club Christian, but but much of the walk. Or perhaps unless done exactly the specific way they say.
I know FR especially Ortho and Catholics throwing shade at Wes because he’s a Prot. So dumb. Can we just be happy that somebody with thorough historical knowledge of the Bible could tangibly prove that’s Christianity as whole is true.
Of course we are. Because we are flawed and sinful. We have been brought out of the muck and while we are being sanctified we are going to stumble and fail miserably. But praise GOD that our salvation is not works-based but Grace-based. If you are setting your eyes on Christians then you are not setting them on Christ. And if you are a Christian then exhort your brothers and sisters with biblical truths so they can be broken up about their sin and repent. And pray for them. When we stop looking down at each other cloaked in Christ righteousness and believing we were born this way, and start seeing each other as both being in the same boat of unworthiness, then we will begin to be more compassionate to each other. Heb 2:17-18 Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For because he himself has suffered when tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.
He didnt go on there to preach as much as to re-iterate what he told billy and everyone else, that you can trust the bible. And stated his facts in the proof he has found in the manuscripts.
I saw all 3+ hours and it was awesome. I think Wes did it a great job at gently nudging the conversation or focus back on Jesus. Especially when Joe wanted to go down so many rabbit holes. I’ve only had a few conversations on the streets (Chicago) where it was just like that. You’re trying to meet people where they’re at. It’s a balance of being gentle, but also getting to the core of the gospel.
Let's not put all this negativity on Wes, okay guys? The guy needs encouragement from his fellow Christians, not criticism. It doesn't fall on his shoulders to convert Joe Rogan. Joe is not gonna believe in God after one conversation. We only need to preach the word and good does the rest. It is a show process. Wes witnessed to Joe through his kindness, patience, his whole being. And that's enough
Wes is a link in a chain. Seems like everyone's pressuring Joe to convert NOW rather than continue the conversation God is having with him through the various people God's placing in his life, Wes included.
House builders don’t fail because the concrete guys poured out the concrete for the basement for a house. Wes Huff‘§ specialty is the historic part of Christianity not evangelicalism so if someone comes by and tries to evangelize Joe then those foundations of the historic aspect of it will make Joe more likely to believe in God Plus Joe was more interested in the whole Billy thing which is why Wes got on in the first place
He said the Laws of Moses dont save us and that Jesus died and resurrected for us. He also said we couldnt save ourselves and our sins. This makes it obvious what the Gospel is no? Especially on a podcast where the viewers constantly see people talk about Jesus. He did spread the Gospel, I think people were expecting him to say "Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?" to make it clearer.. edit- As I continue to watch the video this is what youre saying too. I agree. Some people need to hear more than "Jesus died for your sins" and thats okay. I think most people dismiss the Gospel because they feel its not very well thought out, but Wes laying out Christianity like he did is fine. Some people have more questions. This way it sounds natural and it doesnt run into peoples walls if its the same line theyve heard a thousand times.
Joe Rogan knows what the Gospel is, he’s wrestling with if it’s actually worth putting his faith into it. Wes was helping him put it together specifically on Rogan’s questions on the historicity of the resurrection and how the Bible came together and its authenticity. Rogan having Wes on in and of itself is a huge win, he’s asking the right questions and looking for the most convincing arguments, this is miles ahead of where he was a few years ago.
Why can’t Christians just take the W. We had an amazing intellectual / academic Christian speak about the Bible with Joe Rogan on one of the biggest platforms for 3 hours. Just be grateful.
How the Gospel is preached to someone like Joe Rogan may not be the same way we needed to hear it. Every person is different and this is why testimony is so important, for instance I can significantly reach a brother facing lust. However the person who is not facing lust will just look at me shrug their shoulders and move on. I feel Wes did great for the target audience in which he was expressing not only the Gospel but the validity of it. GOD bless 🙏🙌✝️
Anyone who walks away from the conversation between Wes and Joe on his podcast either didn’t listen until the very end or watched a very different JRE episode than I did. It was preached towards the end…
"...Not just being restored back to God so that you can go to heaven, but being restored back to God so that you can help usher heaven on earth"- I think that's the most logical, selfless and loving statement that I've ever personally heard a Christian say 💯 wow! Im actually surprised, lol. I'm a nonbeliever, I'd say the most powerful thing a believer can do is to lead their own life in service and sacrifice to humanity through Christ and show how joyful that can be, no matter the fleshly cost. Don't need to bore me with perceived "wisdom" or entice me with "heaven". I'll see you and the joy you present in your own life picking up your own cross for the love of others and humanity... and I'll know it's real. That's the miracle and a true power, that i don't believe that can be taken from believing. Ive personally never seen that
Everyone knows the punch lines this podcast was for people who heard the punch line but needed more information. That is what someone like wes excels at
I think the discussion towards the end of the video when Wes talked about Jesus being against morality, is a testament to who Jesus was, and it speaks to the time we live in today as well. Still sharing the gospel of Christ but not through quoting scripture.
It was beautiful seeing that subject of Christ coming up naturally through the conversation...dare say it, led by the Holy Spirit...rather than a contrived shove-it-in-your-face sermon.
People just want to find something negative to critique it. I’m sure that the people who say Wes failed probably think that THEY would’ve done better. But Wes did an amazing job and if you want to look for things he didn’t get perfect you could probably find them. But if we are honest, he did an amazing job articulating his view and instead of being awkward with Joe is now on great terms with him and has a good relationship with him.
The work of the messenger is to make the listener be in the direction of the search, show the way, and then the person with the help of the Holy Spirit walk the way to salvation. The salvation is not just a reason way, but is more kinesthetic (kinda)..
I think Wes did a great job, I wish he would have had the chance to explain Justice and Mercy as he has done in other discussions, but they took a looot of time in several other topics during the first hour, but that’s what happens in organic conversations
People gonna people. Even within the Christian Body. (If the religious criticized Jesus, they'll criticize us as well.) Be available. Be faithful with your gift. Just scatter the seed you're given. God is responsible for the growth. (1 Corinthians 3:6).
This is a serious problem in the Christian community. So many people are obsessed with things being explicit or ham-fisted in presenting the Gospel, when some of the most powerful ways to actually get people to accept the Gospel are long, sometimes subtle, and oftentimes meandering conversations that actually address the person across from them. Preaching John 3:16 at someone isn't going to convert them. Getting to know the person and weaving John 3:16 into the conversation and having the Gospel be the back bone of the conversation will be much more effective. People don't like being preached at, they want to be known, understood, and then reached. This is a problem a lot of Christian movies and music have (and other media). The stereotype I always hear is that Christian media is just a knock off of secular media, and that it is really preachy and cheesy/bad. The stereotype should be the Chronicle's of Narnia and LOTR though. It should be top notch media bathed in the Christian worldview and that either explicitly or subtly explores the Gospel, not ham-fisted or cheesy or low quality feeling works that have a good message, but no one takes seriously. When people start asking, "Where's the Gospel?" when looking at Christian media, they need to first backup and go, "Is this meant to be presenting a Christian worldview and themes at a broad level, or is this meant to be much more explicit?" Both pieces of media are important. Even if something doesn't explicitly share the Gospel, it could still be doing important work that will lead people to have a more friendly view of Christianity and the Gospel, which then allows other people/works that are explicitly sharing the Gospel to actually make headway with the nonbeliever they're engaging with. We're in such a hostile environment, that just getting people to take Christianity seriously in media is a brutal headache. Laying the groundwork and stumping for Christianity's importance itself is important in potentially getting people to consider the Gospel. Sometimes it's more effective than actually preaching the Gospel to some people too. Especially if they already know the Gospel but rejected it. They need a world view shift, not another Gospel sermonette. All of that said, the people who are really concerned about the Gospel being explicitly shared have a great heart. I just want them to understand that there are more ways to share the Gospel and grow the Kingdom beyond what they're envisioning. It's always depressing to watch someone who loves sharing the Gospel tear down other Christians for not sharing the Gospel in a way that meets their expectations.
People dont even know what the 1st gospel is. We have this modernized southern baptist version in our minds. Wes defended and spoke about the 3 big essentials 1. Diety 2. Death 3. Resurrection of Christ and he did so in an apologetic manner. That IS the gospel, not some formula messege that fits in with modern churchyanity. I would encourage everyone to read Scott McKnights book on this subject "The King Jesus Gospel".
Joe Rogan doesn't need scripture yet. Joe Rogan needs to know the validity and purity of the translations (as well as a lot of his viewers). This has always been his problem and Wes showed him what he needed to know and even more. Once you show him the truth of the translations and he's thought about it more and comes closer to the truth than you give him scripture. This podcast wasn't for preaching it was for giving Joe the information he was seeking in understanding that the Bible is not just a mishmash of telephone conversations of events that may or may not have happened.
I don't understand casual gospel presentations. I think a lot of times it comes from cowardice, pragmatism, comfort or experience. The Bible says "We beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God - 2 Corinthians 5:20 - Begging is not casual it's desperate because it's so important. (not saying Wes did a bad job. Rogan has familiarity with Christianity and understood the need to submit to Jesus as part of repentance)
The nitpicking is disgusting. Wes was great! Countless comments from people coming back to the faith or getting into it for the first time. He shared some great info that grabbed everyone's attention. Especially for the "evidence" people. The Gospel isn't hard to find. People just spent 3hrs watching a podcast. Im sure they can find other videos "explaining the Gospel better".
Anyone who actually watched the freaking podcast can’t honestly say that Wes didn’t do exactly what was needed. He did share the gospel I’d argue even got to the depths of the gospel. Where he said Jesus condemns morality that is a deeeeeeep claim and it does lead to the gospel.
"sharing the gospel" to someone like Joe is like trying to build a house ontop a mine field. Apologetics as a process is a means to disable the minefield so that someone can take Christianity more seriously. Jesus said I am the truth. So I would say to Joe, Sir if you pursue the truth, it is my conviction that you pursue God Himself.
Feeling convicted in my own life about not "preaching" the gospel to people in my life and it feeling so difficult. Mainly because ive felt/thought/heard the only way to share it is the way people are complaining about Wes not sharing it. Which is almost script-like/rehearsed and i hated that way because it feels so fake and forced. Im trying to learn how i can still share it, but in a more natural way
Yeah, I hear you. There is a "cookie cutter" way to explain it. Which is fine.... However, according to a letter Paul wrote to the Corinthians, he writes the following: "I have become all things to all people" in 1 Corinthians 9:22. Meaning he adapted himself to different people in order to spread the Gospel and potentially win them over to Christianity; essentially, he became like them, in a sense and to a certain degree, to connect with them on their level. I also believe one of the best ways to share the Gospel is by allowing God to work in you and through you so others may see what happens when you allow Him to be the center of your life and help you in every aspect of your life as well. In return, others should automatically take notice and see "the strange", or " the unorthodox" way you live and soon enough ask you questions that can trigger an encouraging conversation. For example, "why is it that you...." Or "why don't you....." "Why do you look so....". Etc. I hope you get the gist. It's also better to share the Gospel with others in a way that is somewhat tangible. Hope this helps. Be blessed!
More simply, be with people. Talk with them. Ask questions, the meaningful ones. Be open about your life. Enjoy their company. Show them you value them and don't immediately judge them for their actions, but that you want to know and understand them. Therein, and by praying to God for opportunities, opportunities will arise. Just slow down and be with people, and you'll see them.
For Wes, his audience wasn't all of us viewers. It was Joe. He was having a genuine, real conversation with a man. He was talking with Joe where he's at, casting bait and seeing what he bit. Jesus didn't tell the Samaritan woman at the well immediately who He was. He built a relationship first and when SHE asked for more, He gave it.
Wow bro. Let’s start pulling down our fellow Christians. Can you not find a better topic to get you more views and or subscribers? do you have any line that you’ve drawn for how far you will go? he was on Joe Rogan trying to help him get to another place. No appreciation for that? We’re you on Joe Rogan? Come on man. This is probably the first significant video you have posted that started to rub me the wrong way and what you’re doing. I hope it doesn’t continue. I wonder how many subscribers you have a washer will lose because of this? If anybody has unsubscribed Let it be known
Nah - Wes did a great job! No doubt! And you obviously don't have to use all the words like sin, heaven and hell, etc... Personally, I didn't hear Wes say the reason why Jesus's resurrection was so important on this particular podcast... but maybe I missed it... it was 3 hrs lol But I absolutely did see the awe on Joe Rogans face and it's clear that God is revealing himself and moving through what happened there. I am sooooooo very excited for what this means for Christianity as we know it. ❤
Why didn’t Jesus just straight forward insist His disciples whom He chose Himself to straight up confess their faith in Him as their Savior and their God from the 1st week or month or year after their being selected?? Wouldn’t this have possibly prevented Iscariot from going down his dark path of no return? Such similar conjectures are stuff of self-conceit and self-righteousness.
He did but not in an obvious way. How could wes settling questions joe had not preaching the gospel. Ioe wouldn't have a genuine conversation about saving his soul on a podcast. That would be to personal for him. Consider this, half of joes podcast this year are mostly about jesus. Most of joes podcast with mel Gibson is about jesus. I feel it in my heart and joes coming to jesus 😊 ive been listening to joe forever.
I was personally disappointed by the west huff Joe Rogan interview. The vast majority of the interview was just about articulating old documents but not much jesus and the legitimacy of the Bible like I was hoping
Most people want to control the "narrative" of the Gospel instead of letting the Gospel speak for itself. MOST things, INCLUDING and especially the Gospel, are about 85 to 95% are learned and taken in by example. Even Jesus in John 13:35 said that others will KNOW you are His disciples by how you love one another. And if you listen to the whole podcast, you will hear Wes continually redirect back to the Bible and the intent of why he was there to begin with. Wes yielded to Joe's intellect by answering the questions Joe was asking or has been in question about and redirected Joe back to the Bible and the proven Truths of the Bible. Like most people, Joe KNOWS the Gospel, but he is asking it to be proven, and that is what Wes handed in. In my opinion, Wes was being more "Christian" than most pastors behind a lot of our pulpits! There are different seeds and different watering cans, but there is only ONE Harvester, and that is God Almighty. We are His vessel in how He created us to be, and in our surrender to Him, He will guide us in the world around us and in each heart He has us encounter. This need to control in the church is WHY the church is in a lot of the state it is in!
Maybe God knows how to talk to. Joe Rogan maybe this is what he needed to hear to put two and two together for himself and maybe Wes just planted a seed so that Joe Rogan can think and ponder about and God can grow it
I disagree. I think he took a scholastic and practical approach. Often we may think that preaching the Gospel requires a whole emotional plot of inescapable doom and at the last second, redemption appears. But if that were the case then we wouldn’t need 27 books to exegete the Old Testament so that, as John puts it, “…but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.” John 20:31. Another example is Thomas. He didn’t believe what he was told but what he could see with his own eyes. But it didn’t make him in less a believer or any less saved. Wes, guided by the Holy Spirit, spoke the Gospel in words that would penetrate the doubts of Joe Rogan and many of his listeners. We are commissioned by Christ to go out into the world and preach the Gospel to all creation. And Paul, in his 1st letter to Corinth, tells them, “…so neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth.” Ch 3:7. My point is this, while it is ok to discuss and even exhort what is unbiblical, I think we do better by elaborating on what Wes shared, rather than opine on whether or not he did it most effectively. May God continue to bless you and yours, and may your content continue to Bless God.
Peace everyone and God bless. According to God’s word, The gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, which the Apostle Paul recorded in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Therefore, Wes didn’t fail to preach the gospel. However, the question may be asked did he explain how to respond to the gospel? Which is illustrated throughout the book of Acts. I was personally encouraged by Wes. If there is anyone who would like to further investigate the gospel of our Lord, please contact me and let’s encourage one another. God bless! 🙏🏾❤️
Joe Rogan is almost 60 years old. …He’s heard the accounts in the Bible. Joe needs apologetics. Joe needs to know why/how the Bible is historically accurate.
That opening presentation of the Gospel is too basic imho… lost of kids don’t understand why his sacrifice is even necessary… it is a weird time. I thought did an amazing job. Yes! He has Joe articulating it, so he was successful, and Joe was successful at articulating why it is “hard to get your head around”.
Listen.. if he doesn't use proper verbage like the "our father" or "hail Mary" then it doesn't count lol. It's gotta be perfect and approved by my ifb circle or God doesn't approve!
Now Huff is saying it’s a possibility of him debating Billy again, after he claimed he wouldn’t debate anyone else because he doesn’t have time 😂 what a scam
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Anybody else feel like it's a little weird that we finally got a really smart Christian on JRE, and so many Christians are criticizing him for how he did it? Like, come on guys can we tighten up and focus on the fact that he brought joe closer to Jesus and probably a lot of viewers closer to Jesus.
Everyone will have their criticisms- it's human nature. But yes, when we skip past that part... this opened so many doors.
Just to see the evidence on a podcast like this that Jesus was real, that he was crucified and the reason why Wes believes it's a historical fact that he rose... it's profound.❤
This right here! People wanted proper Christian representation on JRE and now we got it. So we should give Wes some grace.
The ones criticizing are no bodies or they would’ve been sitting in that seat. …A bunch of non-pastors/teachers telling how to do the job of pastoring/teaching.
Perfect comment, thank you
His response to talking with other Christian’s afterwards is the source of most the ire.
Huff wasn't there wasn't there to give a sermon and preach. I'm not entirely certain that's in his skill set. What he was there to do was to have a sit-down interview and answer questions. Wesley was there for apologetics. I think he did a great job representing the faith to viewers that would probably be more likely to tune out if he preached to for 3 hours.
Agree 100%. It followed the normal flow of a JRE interview where Joe asked a lot of questions about his guests area of expertise (ancient biblical texts). To expect Wes to explain the gospel message to Joe for three straight hours isn’t the right expectation.
No he didn’t fail, why in the world are we being so negative about it? The fact that it happens was amazing!
Because people are always whining and nitpicking others🙄
Agreed, it was a wonderful thing. It definitely gave him something to ponder on and may affect him down the line. Have faith, people!
Exactly and someone probably was saved by the appearance.
It wasn't the time or place to try and change Joe's mind....he explained and planted the seed....and we don't know what was said behind the scenes 🇿🇦👑
Being in person on a huge platform, Wes did a great job. It easy to say what the other person did or didn't do when we weren't in the same seat.
Makes me think Christians judge themselves "successful" depending on how many times they preach, rather than how authentic and caring their planting and watering are.
Joe Rogan heard the message in the way Joe Rogan needed to hear it. He had many misconceptions regarding Christianity he held for years challenged by someone who studies this stuff upfront. The Gospel isn't just shared one way and frankly, there would be way less saved if it was.
Absolutely agree that Rogan heard the message the way he needed to hear it; the way he was open to listening to it.
The Christian online community is one of the most judgmental, finger pointing communities I’ve ever come across. Wes did a great job and it was a refreshing natural flowing conversation
I am inclined to think it, like many others, are made up of a few loud voices with a bit of amplification (maybe even maliciously).
Or A LOT of people that like the title or club Christian, but but much of the walk. Or perhaps unless done exactly the specific way they say.
There are always some Iscariots around snidely asking why the money wasn’t used in the way he wanted it to.
I know FR especially Ortho and Catholics throwing shade at Wes because he’s a Prot. So dumb. Can we just be happy that somebody with thorough historical knowledge of the Bible could tangibly prove that’s Christianity as whole is true.
Of course we are. Because we are flawed and sinful. We have been brought out of the muck and while we are being sanctified we are going to stumble and fail miserably. But praise GOD that our salvation is not works-based but Grace-based. If you are setting your eyes on Christians then you are not setting them on Christ. And if you are a Christian then exhort your brothers and sisters with biblical truths so they can be broken up about their sin and repent. And pray for them. When we stop looking down at each other cloaked in Christ righteousness and believing we were born this way, and start seeing each other as both being in the same boat of unworthiness, then we will begin to be more compassionate to each other.
Heb 2:17-18
Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For because he himself has suffered when tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.
He didnt go on there to preach as much as to re-iterate what he told billy and everyone else, that you can trust the bible. And stated his facts in the proof he has found in the manuscripts.
Joe knows the gospel message. I thought the best thing Wes did was give the papyri to him. In that moment, Wes made the gospel tangible.
Does he though? He constantly gets bits wrong.
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I saw all 3+ hours and it was awesome. I think Wes did it a great job at gently nudging the conversation or focus back on Jesus. Especially when Joe wanted to go down so many rabbit holes. I’ve only had a few conversations on the streets (Chicago) where it was just like that. You’re trying to meet people where they’re at. It’s a balance of being gentle, but also getting to the core of the gospel.
Let's not put all this negativity on Wes, okay guys? The guy needs encouragement from his fellow Christians, not criticism. It doesn't fall on his shoulders to convert Joe Rogan. Joe is not gonna believe in God after one conversation. We only need to preach the word and good does the rest. It is a show process. Wes witnessed to Joe through his kindness, patience, his whole being. And that's enough
Wes is a link in a chain. Seems like everyone's pressuring Joe to convert NOW rather than continue the conversation God is having with him through the various people God's placing in his life, Wes included.
Loved how gentle Wes was with Joe and his audience.
Billions have heard the Gospel but only a very few will truly understand it and let it enter it into their hearts.
not every single time we got to be overt. Sometimes its a planting season sometimes its a reaping season. He was planting seeds
Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God
House builders don’t fail because the concrete guys poured out the concrete for the basement for a house. Wes Huff‘§ specialty is the historic part of Christianity not evangelicalism so if someone comes by and tries to evangelize Joe then those foundations of the historic aspect of it will make Joe more likely to believe in God
Plus Joe was more interested in the whole Billy thing which is why Wes got on in the first place
He said the Laws of Moses dont save us and that Jesus died and resurrected for us. He also said we couldnt save ourselves and our sins. This makes it obvious what the Gospel is no? Especially on a podcast where the viewers constantly see people talk about Jesus. He did spread the Gospel, I think people were expecting him to say "Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?" to make it clearer..
edit- As I continue to watch the video this is what youre saying too. I agree. Some people need to hear more than "Jesus died for your sins" and thats okay. I think most people dismiss the Gospel because they feel its not very well thought out, but Wes laying out Christianity like he did is fine. Some people have more questions. This way it sounds natural and it doesnt run into peoples walls if its the same line theyve heard a thousand times.
Joe Rogan knows what the Gospel is, he’s wrestling with if it’s actually worth putting his faith into it. Wes was helping him put it together specifically on Rogan’s questions on the historicity of the resurrection and how the Bible came together and its authenticity. Rogan having Wes on in and of itself is a huge win, he’s asking the right questions and looking for the most convincing arguments, this is miles ahead of where he was a few years ago.
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I think he did n great job considering that it was Joe Rogan
Why can’t Christians just take the W. We had an amazing intellectual / academic Christian speak about the Bible with Joe Rogan on one of the biggest platforms for 3 hours. Just be grateful.
How the Gospel is preached to someone like Joe Rogan may not be the same way we needed to hear it. Every person is different and this is why testimony is so important, for instance I can significantly reach a brother facing lust. However the person who is not facing lust will just look at me shrug their shoulders and move on. I feel Wes did great for the target audience in which he was expressing not only the Gospel but the validity of it. GOD bless 🙏🙌✝️
Anyone who walks away from the conversation between Wes and Joe on his podcast either didn’t listen until the very end or watched a very different JRE episode than I did. It was preached towards the end…
"...Not just being restored back to God so that you can go to heaven, but being restored back to God so that you can help usher heaven on earth"- I think that's the most logical, selfless and loving statement that I've ever personally heard a Christian say 💯 wow! Im actually surprised, lol. I'm a nonbeliever, I'd say the most powerful thing a believer can do is to lead their own life in service and sacrifice to humanity through Christ and show how joyful that can be, no matter the fleshly cost. Don't need to bore me with perceived "wisdom" or entice me with "heaven". I'll see you and the joy you present in your own life picking up your own cross for the love of others and humanity... and I'll know it's real. That's the miracle and a true power, that i don't believe that can be taken from believing. Ive personally never seen that
Everyone knows the punch lines this podcast was for people who heard the punch line but needed more information. That is what someone like wes excels at
I think the discussion towards the end of the video when Wes talked about Jesus being against morality, is a testament to who Jesus was, and it speaks to the time we live in today as well. Still sharing the gospel of Christ but not through quoting scripture.
It was beautiful seeing that subject of Christ coming up naturally through the conversation...dare say it, led by the Holy Spirit...rather than a contrived shove-it-in-your-face sermon.
@ those types of discussions between a person who holds a secular world view and a believer is as compelling as any Bible thumping sermon there is.
People just want to find something negative to critique it. I’m sure that the people who say Wes failed probably think that THEY would’ve done better. But Wes did an amazing job and if you want to look for things he didn’t get perfect you could probably find them. But if we are honest, he did an amazing job articulating his view and instead of being awkward with Joe is now on great terms with him and has a good relationship with him.
The work of the messenger is to make the listener be in the direction of the search, show the way, and then the person with the help of the Holy Spirit walk the way to salvation. The salvation is not just a reason way, but is more kinesthetic (kinda)..
I think Wes did a great job, I wish he would have had the chance to explain Justice and Mercy as he has done in other discussions, but they took a looot of time in several other topics during the first hour, but that’s what happens in organic conversations
I thought Wes did a great job in many ways but I’m not gonna pretend like he shared the gospel
He did a lot of good and I’m thankful he went on though
But Wes did presented the Resurrection and the historical account of Christ…
Yup. People be wildin
It's always easy to say what you would have done differently through someone else's life.
People gonna people. Even within the Christian Body. (If the religious criticized Jesus, they'll criticize us as well.)
Be available. Be faithful with your gift. Just scatter the seed you're given.
God is responsible for the growth. (1 Corinthians 3:6).
This is a serious problem in the Christian community. So many people are obsessed with things being explicit or ham-fisted in presenting the Gospel, when some of the most powerful ways to actually get people to accept the Gospel are long, sometimes subtle, and oftentimes meandering conversations that actually address the person across from them. Preaching John 3:16 at someone isn't going to convert them. Getting to know the person and weaving John 3:16 into the conversation and having the Gospel be the back bone of the conversation will be much more effective. People don't like being preached at, they want to be known, understood, and then reached.
This is a problem a lot of Christian movies and music have (and other media). The stereotype I always hear is that Christian media is just a knock off of secular media, and that it is really preachy and cheesy/bad. The stereotype should be the Chronicle's of Narnia and LOTR though. It should be top notch media bathed in the Christian worldview and that either explicitly or subtly explores the Gospel, not ham-fisted or cheesy or low quality feeling works that have a good message, but no one takes seriously. When people start asking, "Where's the Gospel?" when looking at Christian media, they need to first backup and go, "Is this meant to be presenting a Christian worldview and themes at a broad level, or is this meant to be much more explicit?" Both pieces of media are important. Even if something doesn't explicitly share the Gospel, it could still be doing important work that will lead people to have a more friendly view of Christianity and the Gospel, which then allows other people/works that are explicitly sharing the Gospel to actually make headway with the nonbeliever they're engaging with. We're in such a hostile environment, that just getting people to take Christianity seriously in media is a brutal headache. Laying the groundwork and stumping for Christianity's importance itself is important in potentially getting people to consider the Gospel. Sometimes it's more effective than actually preaching the Gospel to some people too. Especially if they already know the Gospel but rejected it. They need a world view shift, not another Gospel sermonette.
All of that said, the people who are really concerned about the Gospel being explicitly shared have a great heart. I just want them to understand that there are more ways to share the Gospel and grow the Kingdom beyond what they're envisioning. It's always depressing to watch someone who loves sharing the Gospel tear down other Christians for not sharing the Gospel in a way that meets their expectations.
People dont even know what the 1st gospel is. We have this modernized southern baptist version in our minds. Wes defended and spoke about the 3 big essentials 1. Diety 2. Death 3. Resurrection of Christ and he did so in an apologetic manner. That IS the gospel, not some formula messege that fits in with modern churchyanity.
I would encourage everyone to read Scott McKnights book on this subject "The King Jesus Gospel".
Joe Rogan doesn't need scripture yet. Joe Rogan needs to know the validity and purity of the translations (as well as a lot of his viewers). This has always been his problem and Wes showed him what he needed to know and even more. Once you show him the truth of the translations and he's thought about it more and comes closer to the truth than you give him scripture. This podcast wasn't for preaching it was for giving Joe the information he was seeking in understanding that the Bible is not just a mishmash of telephone conversations of events that may or may not have happened.
That is not at all what he is being accused of. 😂 it how he handled Church History that’s got everyone up in arms.
He didn't failed to share the Gospel. He just quoted incorrect info about Church history and Bible canonical history. That's all.
I don't understand casual gospel presentations. I think a lot of times it comes from cowardice, pragmatism, comfort or experience. The Bible says "We beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God - 2 Corinthians 5:20 - Begging is not casual it's desperate because it's so important. (not saying Wes did a bad job. Rogan has familiarity with Christianity and understood the need to submit to Jesus as part of repentance)
The nitpicking is disgusting.
Wes was great! Countless comments from people coming back to the faith or getting into it for the first time.
He shared some great info that grabbed everyone's attention. Especially for the "evidence" people.
The Gospel isn't hard to find. People just spent 3hrs watching a podcast. Im sure they can find other videos "explaining the Gospel better".
Anyone who actually watched the freaking podcast can’t honestly say that Wes didn’t do exactly what was needed. He did share the gospel I’d argue even got to the depths of the gospel. Where he said Jesus condemns morality that is a deeeeeeep claim and it does lead to the gospel.
"sharing the gospel" to someone like Joe is like trying to build a house ontop a mine field.
Apologetics as a process is a means to disable the minefield so that someone can take Christianity more seriously.
Jesus said I am the truth.
So I would say to Joe, Sir if you pursue the truth, it is my conviction that you pursue God Himself.
Feeling convicted in my own life about not "preaching" the gospel to people in my life and it feeling so difficult. Mainly because ive felt/thought/heard the only way to share it is the way people are complaining about Wes not sharing it. Which is almost script-like/rehearsed and i hated that way because it feels so fake and forced. Im trying to learn how i can still share it, but in a more natural way
Yeah, I hear you. There is a "cookie cutter" way to explain it. Which is fine....
However, according to a letter Paul wrote to the Corinthians, he writes the following: "I have become all things to all people" in 1 Corinthians 9:22. Meaning he adapted himself to different people in order to spread the Gospel and potentially win them over to Christianity; essentially, he became like them, in a sense and to a certain degree, to connect with them on their level.
I also believe one of the best ways to share the Gospel is by allowing God to work in you and through you so others may see what happens when you allow Him to be the center of your life and help you in every aspect of your life as well.
In return, others should automatically take notice and see "the strange", or " the unorthodox" way you live and soon enough ask you questions that can trigger an encouraging conversation.
For example, "why is it that you...." Or "why don't you....." "Why do you look so....". Etc. I hope you get the gist.
It's also better to share the Gospel with others in a way that is somewhat tangible.
Hope this helps. Be blessed!
More simply, be with people. Talk with them. Ask questions, the meaningful ones. Be open about your life. Enjoy their company. Show them you value them and don't immediately judge them for their actions, but that you want to know and understand them. Therein, and by praying to God for opportunities, opportunities will arise. Just slow down and be with people, and you'll see them.
He went and cracked the foundation of disbelievers Wes did what he was supposed to do🤷🏾♂️
For Wes, his audience wasn't all of us viewers. It was Joe. He was having a genuine, real conversation with a man. He was talking with Joe where he's at, casting bait and seeing what he bit. Jesus didn't tell the Samaritan woman at the well immediately who He was. He built a relationship first and when SHE asked for more, He gave it.
Why are you making Joe so special? Do you worship him?
I’m all for slow gospel and for a quick elevator pitch.
The receiver determines what one is used.
Wow bro. Let’s start pulling down our fellow Christians. Can you not find a better topic to get you more views and or subscribers? do you have any line that you’ve drawn for how far you will go? he was on Joe Rogan trying to help him get to another place. No appreciation for that? We’re you on Joe Rogan? Come on man. This is probably the first significant video you have posted that started to rub me the wrong way and what you’re doing. I hope it doesn’t continue.
I wonder how many subscribers you have a washer will lose because of this? If anybody has unsubscribed Let it be known
Is the concept of faith important in the gospel message?
Nah - Wes did a great job! No doubt!
And you obviously don't have to use all the words like sin, heaven and hell, etc...
Personally, I didn't hear Wes say the reason why Jesus's resurrection was so important on this particular podcast... but maybe I missed it... it was 3 hrs lol
But I absolutely did see the awe on Joe Rogans face and it's clear that God is revealing himself and moving through what happened there.
I am sooooooo very excited for what this means for Christianity as we know it. ❤
Why didn’t Jesus just straight forward insist His disciples whom He chose Himself to straight up confess their faith in Him as their Savior and their God from the 1st week or month or year after their being selected?? Wouldn’t this have possibly prevented Iscariot from going down his dark path of no return?
Such similar conjectures are stuff of self-conceit and self-righteousness.
I can't believe there wasn't an altar call. FAIL.
I am the Sam he's talking about toward the end!
He did but not in an obvious way. How could wes settling questions joe had not preaching the gospel. Ioe wouldn't have a genuine conversation about saving his soul on a podcast. That would be to personal for him. Consider this, half of joes podcast this year are mostly about jesus. Most of joes podcast with mel Gibson is about jesus. I feel it in my heart and joes coming to jesus 😊 ive been listening to joe forever.
I was personally disappointed by the west huff Joe Rogan interview. The vast majority of the interview was just about articulating old documents but not much jesus and the legitimacy of the Bible like I was hoping
No he didn’t fail, he did the correct job other Christian influencer weren’t able.
Most people want to control the "narrative" of the Gospel instead of letting the Gospel speak for itself. MOST things, INCLUDING and especially the Gospel, are about 85 to 95% are learned and taken in by example. Even Jesus in John 13:35 said that others will KNOW you are His disciples by how you love one another. And if you listen to the whole podcast, you will hear Wes continually redirect back to the Bible and the intent of why he was there to begin with. Wes yielded to Joe's intellect by answering the questions Joe was asking or has been in question about and redirected Joe back to the Bible and the proven Truths of the Bible. Like most people, Joe KNOWS the Gospel, but he is asking it to be proven, and that is what Wes handed in. In my opinion, Wes was being more "Christian" than most pastors behind a lot of our pulpits! There are different seeds and different watering cans, but there is only ONE Harvester, and that is God Almighty. We are His vessel in how He created us to be, and in our surrender to Him, He will guide us in the world around us and in each heart He has us encounter. This need to control in the church is WHY the church is in a lot of the state it is in!
Maybe God knows how to talk to. Joe Rogan maybe this is what he needed to hear to put two and two together for himself and maybe Wes just planted a seed so that Joe Rogan can think and ponder about and God can grow it
You can tell several folks who commented didn't ACTUALLY watch the video... 😂
I disagree. I think he took a scholastic and practical approach. Often we may think that preaching the Gospel requires a whole emotional plot of inescapable doom and at the last second, redemption appears. But if that were the case then we wouldn’t need 27 books to exegete the Old Testament so that, as John puts it, “…but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.” John 20:31.
Another example is Thomas. He didn’t believe what he was told but what he could see with his own eyes. But it didn’t make him in less a believer or any less saved.
Wes, guided by the Holy Spirit, spoke the Gospel in words that would penetrate the doubts of Joe Rogan and many of his listeners. We are commissioned by Christ to go out into the world and preach the Gospel to all creation. And Paul, in his 1st letter to Corinth, tells them, “…so neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth.” Ch 3:7.
My point is this, while it is ok to discuss and even exhort what is unbiblical, I think we do better by elaborating on what Wes shared, rather than opine on whether or not he did it most effectively. May God continue to bless you and yours, and may your content continue to Bless God.
I've been seeing way too much negative surrounding Wes Huff lately. It's weird.
When did Bless God become Wes Huff apologists?
All these people nit picking is kind of sickening, all about money and clicks right?
Brother Wesley did enough in my opinion 😄
What's yours ?
keep it simple preach the gospel the way the apostles did
He did preach the gospel.
Peace everyone and God bless. According to God’s word, The gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, which the Apostle Paul recorded in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Therefore, Wes didn’t fail to preach the gospel. However, the question may be asked did he explain how to respond to the gospel? Which is illustrated throughout the book of Acts. I was personally encouraged by Wes. If there is anyone who would like to further investigate the gospel of our Lord, please contact me and let’s encourage one another. God bless! 🙏🏾❤️
Joe Rogan is almost 60 years old. …He’s heard the accounts in the Bible. Joe needs apologetics. Joe needs to know why/how the Bible is historically accurate.
That opening presentation of the Gospel is too basic imho… lost of kids don’t understand why his sacrifice is even necessary… it is a weird time. I thought did an amazing job. Yes! He has Joe articulating it, so he was successful, and Joe was successful at articulating why it is “hard to get your head around”.
Listen.. if he doesn't use proper verbage like the "our father" or "hail Mary" then it doesn't count lol. It's gotta be perfect and approved by my ifb circle or God doesn't approve!
Did Jesus “fail to preach the gospel” in Mark 1? Did Paul fail in Acts 17?
Gotta love legalistic Fundies twisting themselves into knots. 😂
No
No.
no he did not fail!
There's always some whiner
spoken like a human who cares
Ruslan you fail all the time 😅
Now Huff is saying it’s a possibility of him debating Billy again, after he claimed he wouldn’t debate anyone else because he doesn’t have time 😂 what a scam
Possibility
He didn’t say he’ll “never debate” he said his 2025 was filled before any of this.