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Heyho, wollte mich bei dir mal bedanken! Kann wegen deinem sehr aufschlußreichem Video nu seit ca. zwei Jahren double-bassen wie ein Irrer ohne müde zu werden und DAS nachdem ich jetzt seit 31 Jahren spiele und mich 29 Jahre davon bös abgestrampelt hab, ohne befriedigendes Resultat!😎 Dankeschön!😄
Been into this technique with my dw9000 with shoes for months. Great technique with like 80% technique and 20% muscle memory. Really like it! Great video! 🤘🏻
For the especially dense (me), remember to make sure the beater swings back at the end of the downstroke, before the upstroke. Really focus on the feeling of it, and eventually you get a sort of swinging feeling with your feet, where you can progress forward. This technique is so cool and unique and actually really fun to mess around with, thank you for this tutorial!
You look more friendly in this video than the old one. This was deeply explained than before. I like the previous one because the bass has not trigger on it but well, seems you mastered the technique and took it faster! Thanks for the explanation!
Been using this technique cause of learning it from you last June. Super fun once u get it going. Yay for showing how to utilize " constant release" technique on a double pedal. I think more people would use it if they just knew it existed. Or at least that's how I felt.
"If your chin muscle start hurting you're doing it right" - So important you said that. That is the most painful part of drumming for shure but it's definitely worth it! Thanks Man!
This is an awesome video, I’ve been searching for a video for ages to finally learn a great technique for double bass and I’ve finally found the video, keep up the great work man I absolutely love it 🤘🤘
Nechtan, I have a pedal just like yours, but you use it as a short board?? I thought the long board would be more effective for this technique or at least easier..anyway, I'm joining your school to learn more about those great techniques you have. Se you on the other side!! 🤘🏼👊🏼
Thank you so much for this! I'm really considering joining your school. With drumming tempos "above humanly possible-per-minute" on the drums, it's quite amusing to hear you speak so clearly and calmly :-) Everyone can follow, and you keep it very interesting!
Danke für deine verständlichen Unterrichtsstunden . Alles sauber erklärt . Ich lerne immer gerne dazu . Sehe deine Videos mit großem Interesse ! Super !!!
Hallo, habe gesehen, daß du Fußmaschinen mit Kettenantrieb und auch wie hier Direct Drive benutzt. Spiele selber 2 ältere Iron Cobra Roll Glide HP 900 R . Diese könnte man umrüsten auf Direct Drive. Wäre das eine Empfehlung oder lieber spezifische Fußmaschinen in Betracht ziehen? Habe z.B. auch die Axis Longboard versucht , aber bin immer wieder bei der Iron Cobra hängen geblieben, auch bei den neueren Modifikationen. Die alte tut es fast wie die neueren. Dachte an einen Umbau, um mehr Potential herauszuholen und auch um schnellere Anschläge zu erzielen. Danke für deine Meinung, wenn eine kommt. PS: Wäre mal schön ein Video von dir zu sehen, wo die Swivel Technik rüberkommt . Dank und Tschau.
I actually started using this motion out of pure accident while re learning the ankle technique at slower tempos. It felt very comfortable but I’m still going to keep trying to nail singles at all tempos before switching techniques and messing with my muscle memory but will definitely pursue this in the future
Tks man, im from Brasil, and i learned in another video that you used this technique, then i start to trainning a lot this technique, i dont like swivel, isnt comfortable to me, i trainning a lot, tks for the vídeos hehehehe
You are a legend sir. 🙏🙏🙏 I have a question that I hope you can help me with. Can I use the heel toe technique when playing two quick double strokes in a common standard groove? Take the bonham triplets for example. It’s tough for me to play it slower and also too fast. Basically it’s hard to time the hits when playing heel toe. How can I overcome this?
When you get to alternating (double bass) - When you say "single strokes" are you going - Heel R, heel L, then Toe R, Toe L? or heel-toe R, then heel-toe L?
That’s crazy man. Been into death metal drumming for 30 years and never knew this was possible. Everytime I try this I just say ehh, easier with ankles and do it that way lol.
At nine minutes into the video : "Imagine the pedal is your prisoner. You don't want to carry your prisoner all the way, no? You hold him at gunpoint and just give him a little nudge from time to time", with the accent of a voice that sounds like he could be running a prison camp. I don't know why that brought a wide smile on my face but thank you.
Most of these videos from other creators are faking their lessons and shit. SO RELIEVED GO FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO IT HELL YEAH. Even though there are little imperfections and mistimed hits its still fuckin great and helpful for my technique. Keep it up bro!!!
Hi Wanja, I signed to your school and can't wait to start(even though I am a fucking beginner 🤦♂️)! Will you teach one foot blasts and flying fingers technique in your lessons? Hail 🤘🏻
Jeez, just saw your video. I was practising heel toe, but it looks like there's a difference... you come down with the toe and push back up with the toe with heel in the middle. I was practising coming down with heel and pushing up with toe. Got me confused now 🤔. Anyway, i'll look in to it i guess 😉. You're sick man! So jealous of your talent. Keep up the good work with the vids!
I bought the trigmic based on wanja's review. I absolutely adore it, though I don't play live metal shows at the moment. Can anyone explain why they're not more popular? Especially for fellas like myself who play local clubs and bars in a big city, and take the subway to gigs, so we can't carry around a flight case full of electronics? It seems like a no brainer to me.
I guess it is just not as well-known and not many well-known drummers endorse them. Same could be probably said about OnTriggers, especially compared to Footblasters.
Nice tips for practicing AFK ;) I tend to have troube staying seated when both legs are working. I've bought a better drum throne for that, but I'm quite surprised you don't seem to mention yours ;)
its weird, i am not taletned for anything double bass over 180 but then again, when i search or in this case do not search for excersizes, algo, i came up with the same excersize myself, i currently just do the same thing. But only to get feeling back into the feet. and as i allready mentioned not at high speeds. Internal monologou externalized: I do that like in the end or the beginning of a pattern, dodoDO(left) dodoDO(right) and thought its good because it hurts in the legs. So this makes a coach rather than a football player right?
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Heyho, wollte mich bei dir mal bedanken! Kann wegen deinem sehr aufschlußreichem Video nu seit ca. zwei Jahren double-bassen wie ein Irrer ohne müde zu werden und DAS nachdem ich jetzt seit 31 Jahren spiele und mich 29 Jahre davon bös abgestrampelt hab, ohne befriedigendes Resultat!😎 Dankeschön!😄
@@HeikoMichaelOh Das freut mich zu hören! 😄👍
Probably the most effective drummer on youtube
It takes high difficulty to prove your statement wrong.
Been into this technique with my dw9000 with shoes for months.
Great technique with like 80% technique and 20% muscle memory.
Really like it!
Great video! 🤘🏻
For the especially dense (me), remember to make sure the beater swings back at the end of the downstroke, before the upstroke. Really focus on the feeling of it, and eventually you get a sort of swinging feeling with your feet, where you can progress forward.
This technique is so cool and unique and actually really fun to mess around with, thank you for this tutorial!
Hard to keep the strokes even, it switches to a shuffle with a downstroke a lot more powerful than the upstroke, dunno how to fix it
"Just a little nudge from time to time" hahahah hellz yeah.
And just like that I clicked subscribe.
What an analogy!! Haha
🤣🤣🤣🤣
That bass drum technique is so fast, but looks so effortless! Incredible!
Damn this was a great explanation of the Heel-Toe technique!!
You look more friendly in this video than the old one. This was deeply explained than before. I like the previous one because the bass has not trigger on it but well, seems you mastered the technique and took it faster!
Thanks for the explanation!
No one else explains these techniques as good as you man. Fantastic job
This is the best explanation I've seen for this technique. I'm older. 49 years old.
I'd really like to learn this.
The best explanation I've seen for the mechanics of the heel toe technique.
I'm older. 49 years old. I'd really like to learn this.
Very interesting and useful technique. Great job as always!
Il grande David!!!
Stormlord!
This is definitely the best double-bass technique video I've seen
the ambassador of heel toe technique. while many use swivel, you are the few who teach and use this technique from my observation.
Wow, You are never too old to learn something new, even in a space one is very knowledgeable in. I'm glad I found this video.
You’re an excellent teacher! Great video!
Been using this technique cause of learning it from you last June. Super fun once u get it going. Yay for showing how to utilize " constant release" technique on a double pedal. I think more people would use it if they just knew it existed. Or at least that's how I felt.
this is so detailed and well explained. just great great content.
I've been working on this technique for 2 years now and my top consistent speed is 230 bpm. Thank you for making a new version of this video
Just curious man what was your progression like? And what pedals were you using? I hit 220 with heel toe doubles but I can’t quite hit 230
One of the best metal drumming channel so far. 🤘🤘
You're a really good teacher man! Great stuff
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He has that German methodical approach
Economy of motion! Dude! That is some ridiculous BD speed. Love it.
"If your chin muscle start hurting you're doing it right" - So important you said that.
That is the most painful part of drumming for shure but it's definitely worth it!
Thanks Man!
This is probably the best explanation and tutorial on the heel toe technique..thx nechtan
Best drumming teacher on RUclips
this is an awesome technique I'm gonna use from now on!! thanks nechtan, keep it up :)
This is an awesome video, I’ve been searching for a video for ages to finally learn a great technique for double bass and I’ve finally found the video, keep up the great work man I absolutely love it 🤘🤘
the best of the best teacher, thanks master
Thank you for this upload! I will try this method!
what a nice guy, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge
Nechtan, I have a pedal just like yours, but you use it as a short board?? I thought the long board would be more effective for this technique or at least easier..anyway, I'm joining your school to learn more about those great techniques you have. Se you on the other side!! 🤘🏼👊🏼
This video really helped me thx
Amazing tequinich double pedal !!! Brutal !!!
After many videos watched, I finally understood heel e toe with your explanation. And best of all, you don't use long board pedal!
Cant thank you enough for this. You are a great teacher brother 🤘🤘
You`re welcome! Also check out my online drum school 😉 www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds
I love the original video!!!
Legendary :D
Thank you so much for this! I'm really considering joining your school. With drumming tempos "above humanly possible-per-minute" on the drums, it's quite amusing to hear you speak so clearly and calmly :-) Everyone can follow, and you keep it very interesting!
You`re welcome! Right now you can start a free trial of the drum school ;)
Check it out here: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds
Great tutorial. Very good explanations!
Crazy playing!!! Also the school preview lessons are great, can't wait to see the full version!!!🤘
Thank you. And thanks again for the pre-order and your feedback! We are also very exited for the launch and the launch film.
eccoti qua norman, ti ricordi di me?😂😂
@@tressinogiacomo Hey man!!😄
Amazing dude !
*Well explained!*
*Actually this is the same principle of the "Push Pull technique" but with your feet*
Amazing tutorial my dude!
Your a great teacher 👍
Thanks Nechtan totally rad🤘🏽🥁
Danke für deine verständlichen Unterrichtsstunden . Alles sauber erklärt . Ich lerne immer gerne dazu . Sehe deine Videos mit großem Interesse ! Super !!!
Hallo, habe gesehen, daß du Fußmaschinen mit Kettenantrieb und auch wie hier Direct Drive benutzt. Spiele selber 2 ältere Iron Cobra Roll Glide HP 900 R . Diese könnte man umrüsten auf Direct Drive. Wäre das eine Empfehlung oder lieber spezifische Fußmaschinen in Betracht ziehen? Habe z.B. auch die Axis Longboard versucht , aber bin immer wieder bei der Iron Cobra hängen geblieben, auch bei den neueren Modifikationen. Die alte tut es fast wie die neueren. Dachte an einen Umbau, um mehr Potential herauszuholen und auch um schnellere Anschläge zu erzielen. Danke für deine Meinung, wenn eine kommt. PS: Wäre mal schön ein Video von dir zu sehen, wo die Swivel Technik rüberkommt . Dank und Tschau.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch zu fuffzichtausend (50.000) Abonnenten mein Bester! Hast es dir verdient. :-)
Dankeschön! Wir arbeiten an einem special, wird aber noch ein bisschen dauern, bis das fertig ist ;)
literally the best.
You are AWESOME!! Best lesson I have seen 👍😀
this sounds great! Gotta try practice this
Great lesson !
this rules !!
I actually started using this motion out of pure accident while re learning the ankle technique at slower tempos. It felt very comfortable but I’m still going to keep trying to nail singles at all tempos before switching techniques and messing with my muscle memory but will definitely pursue this in the future
How has it been going
Thank u for this tutorial sir❤
Thanks so much for this!
Wanya is great!
Amazing stuff !! Thanks so much !
Damn that's some FAST double kick! Faster than a damn machine gun!
Which gun
Made me think of a typewriter
@@behindthen0thing a fast one 🤣
Its like gravity blast motion with your feet!
Weak as hell
Excelente! muy bien explicado ... a practicar!!
Tks man, im from Brasil, and i learned in another video that you used this technique, then i start to trainning a lot this technique, i dont like swivel, isnt comfortable to me, i trainning a lot, tks for the vídeos hehehehe
Hats off to you, Nechtan. Awesome video. (14 drummers need to practice more)
Thank you
Thanks for exercise!
You are a legend sir. 🙏🙏🙏 I have a question that I hope you can help me with. Can I use the heel toe technique when playing two quick double strokes in a common standard groove? Take the bonham triplets for example. It’s tough for me to play it slower and also too fast. Basically it’s hard to time the hits when playing heel toe. How can I overcome this?
Wanja.. Ur a legend.
When you get to alternating (double bass) - When you say "single strokes" are you going - Heel R, heel L, then Toe R, Toe L? or heel-toe R, then heel-toe L?
🙏 finishing my coffee and pancakes and then it’s studio time 😁
How was that studio time
Saludos desde México Wanja.🤘🤘🤘🤘
Danken, Wanja!!!
That’s crazy man. Been into death metal drumming for 30 years and never knew this was possible. Everytime I try this I just say ehh, easier with ankles and do it that way lol.
Really hard technique to get right but it's doable. I use it the other way around starting with heal down though :)
At nine minutes into the video :
"Imagine the pedal is your prisoner. You don't want to carry your prisoner all the way, no? You hold him at gunpoint and just give him a little nudge from time to time", with the accent of a voice that sounds like he could be running a prison camp. I don't know why that brought a wide smile on my face but thank you.
You're welcome ;)
You are just awesome!
Most of these videos from other creators are faking their lessons and shit. SO RELIEVED GO FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO IT HELL YEAH. Even though there are little imperfections and mistimed hits its still fuckin great and helpful for my technique. Keep it up bro!!!
many thanks i will try that :D
great tutorial, thank you!
You are welcome!
Vould you share some of your multi tracks for mixing?
Back to using the Trigmic? I noticed the reflectors on your beaters....
Supergeil!
i love this.. very well explained..
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Thanks you!!!
I will name this technique
“THE GRÖGER TECHNIQUE”
Hi Wanja, I signed to your school and can't wait to start(even though I am a fucking beginner 🤦♂️)! Will you teach one foot blasts and flying fingers technique in your lessons? Hail
🤘🏻
Great! Thank you for pre-ordering! Yes, both will be covered. I`m looking forward to see you there!
Any chance of you make a video playing Sonor quadruple (or similar) pedals? It requires the same technique
Wanja I’m a fan wow
Basically a gravity blast with your foot. Cool
@8:55 best drum quote ever.
Jeez, just saw your video. I was practising heel toe, but it looks like there's a difference... you come down with the toe and push back up with the toe with heel in the middle. I was practising coming down with heel and pushing up with toe. Got me confused now 🤔. Anyway, i'll look in to it i guess 😉. You're sick man! So jealous of your talent. Keep up the good work with the vids!
You too good man 💪💪
Cool explanation. But can you make the same video for the ankle motion please ?
Thank you! The Ankle Motion video is already inside the drum school, so I´m not sure if it will be published here on RUclips.
I bought the trigmic based on wanja's review. I absolutely adore it, though I don't play live metal shows at the moment.
Can anyone explain why they're not more popular? Especially for fellas like myself who play local clubs and bars in a big city, and take the subway to gigs, so we can't carry around a flight case full of electronics? It seems like a no brainer to me.
I guess it is just not as well-known and not many well-known drummers endorse them. Same could be probably said about OnTriggers, especially compared to Footblasters.
It's like Moeller but with the feet.
sehr geiles video!
do you have your bass drum tension cranked up? I just dont see how youre going that fast with this pedal.
Danke! \m/
Nice tips for practicing AFK ;) I tend to have troube staying seated when both legs are working. I've bought a better drum throne for that, but I'm quite surprised you don't seem to mention yours ;)
5. Have fun
6. Stay home and healthy!
0:33 I thought I almost heard him say “Hello, I’m IBXToyCat”
Woah sane
Same
Thanks
hey brother i like your accent. i hope that doesn’t sound weird. i only speak english i am american.
its weird, i am not taletned for anything double bass over 180 but then again, when i search or in this case do not search for excersizes, algo, i came up with the same excersize myself, i currently just do the same thing. But only to get feeling back into the feet. and as i allready mentioned not at high speeds. Internal monologou externalized: I do that like in the end or the beginning of a pattern, dodoDO(left) dodoDO(right) and thought its good because it hurts in the legs. So this makes a coach rather than a football player right?