Cities: Skylines 2 - Before You Buy
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Cities: Skylines II (PC) is the sequel to one of the greatest city-builders ever made. How is it? Let's talk.
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Was wondering how they’d come up with the thumbnail 😭
whatever it takes
They have no enemies
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Their consistency is INSANE 😂
@@gameranxTVI just love the cosmic horrors these thumbnails end up being sometimes. 10/10, will Lovecraft again.
Thank you Jake for your straight up gameplay and first impressions
On the latest games releasing nonetheless!
As usual it's me, Jake Baldino, and today we're talking about [game title]
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"Buuuut"
Would love to see a new series based on games like this that were “undercooked” and just a go back video on how it’s progressing after a year or so
Like a "Where are they now?" series. I like it.
“After I bought and you didn’t”
@@head-clanka69 I don't like buying games day 1 or pre-ordering games anymore. Developers are so pressured by the upper ups to get these games out and they usually release in a broken state. That's why wait before I buy it.
The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk immediately comes to mind... great format idea.
@@mrnapolean1I think he was just saying another possible title, like how you said "where they are now"
Honestly when I first played Cities Skylines I it felt a bit undercooked in 2015 but thanks to the molders and Colossal Order taking notes from them the game is what it is today. Lost of the changes in 2 are based alot on those Mods for the first game. Which I'm sure they are going to polish this up.
Exactly. The original pre patches, expansions, mods was pretty rough. Give this 2+ years and this original release condition will be relegated to history as yet another 'not quite done' release.
I don’t remember the original release of the first game being this poorly optimized tbh.
you can't mod yourself out of these optimization issues. I assume these issues will be addressed in later patches, but it honestly should not have been released if it was gonna be like this. At a MINIMUM it needed 3 more months of development
Me too, I felt the game was def undercooked back in 2015.
Yeah but they had 8 years to learn from that experience, so II should not have been released like that.
What a strange market video games is where companies, almost across the board feel it's entirely acceptable and necessary to release half-baked products. What a weird time.
Armored Core 6 and Lies of P were extremely well optimized, too bad they are the exception now.
Wierd time? It's a bad time. The corporations are taking over most studios and putting profits / immediate returns over a quality product. We have to push back and demand a finished usable product upon release. Simply do not buy OR wait for a year, get it on sale and running better. This game should not be released yet, like many others.
Microsoft is really getting their hands dirty with this. Expect game pass sales to lower and for them to be like "WTF is wrong with consumers these days" lol
I wonder if part of the problem is that the complexity of what we’re trying to build is outstripping the tech that allows us to build it with reasonable performance?
@@kalesims6540 People will buy it anyway: that's what those corporations are seeing and that why they are pushing the limit of how half-baked a product can be. People like you and me are the minority (I assume, otherwise this situation wouldn't have occurred).
Seems like a game to pick up 6 months, maybe even a year from now or on sale. I have no doubt it'll be (and probably already is) a great game, but a 3080 being recommended is where most people would raise their eyebrows. Hopefully the devs can polish this game and give it the great rep it deserves.
Yeah! Having video games with higher device requirements are too weird nowadays because not even developing countries (mostly in Asia, in comparison to developed countries) can afford to buy those high-end devices which results in some potential sales being partially cut tho-
the first game was not really playable until TME mod and traffic DLC. And that took few years.
Now traffic is mostly done so yeah, by the time they release parks DLC it should be playable.
@@alyasVictorio it is not just that, the kind of people who play games like cs 1 do not tend to have high end pc´s, and won´t buy a high end gaming pc just for this
My eyebrows went up as i read that
Why bother? Why not just keep playing the first one?
This has been my most anticipated game for the last few years. Based on early reviews, I'm going to hold out for a good 6/12 months before playing. No way am I gonna ruin the experience by playing before it's ready.
Most anticipated game for years? Yeah sure, if your are in the City building bubble.
@@romansenger2322THEIR most anticipated game, as in, them personally. Learn to read if you are gonna be snarky
@@romansenger2322learn how to read
@@romansenger2322 Imagine finding a niche fandom, then getting surprised when niche fandom is excited for a niche interest.
idiot@@romansenger2322
I still find it amazing what such a small team accomplished with the first one and am very curious how far they will polish this second installment. But this Before You Buy gave me enough insight that I'll wait a bit before purchasing, although the foundation seems very promising and it'll stay on my wishlist, I'm going to give it some more time in the oven
If you bought it, may you tell me if its worth? Thank you
I would, but I don’t have a 5090
YUP
I may wait for the 7070 for 7060.
4090 only gets 29fps if you play in 1440p and medium to low settings lol
@@transgirl2106 4090 on medium settings 1440p gets upwards of 50 fps average with a 100K city. A 6800XT or 3080Ti can get 40+ fps average with the same city on mostly high settings 1080p. There are some settings that are on by default, but are either bugged or of little to no benefit that you can turn off to increase performance. Vsync for instance nets up to 10 extra fps if you turn it off.
@@transgirl2106just get the 9090 :)
Actually was tempted to get this, still got a massive backlog 😬, the before you buys are still fun to watch
Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 (new from 2.0) have been quite plenty, thank you.
I'll just wait.
I was planning to get this but the performance issues and bugs/graphical issues were too much of a turn off for me to get it. Maybe it'll be ready in a year or two.
Me too. Even during this current over abundance of games, I enjoy a relaxing city builder. Looks like I’ll check out the first one instead.
@@drgonzo123 the first one is fun. Ive played it. Aside from the bad traffic AI, its good. There are traffic mods to help with the bad AI. Some people might disagree with me, but I found the first one to be a little too simple. Ive been watching a lot of videos on the second game. The second cities skylines is a lot deeper in terms of the economy and etc but none of that matters if its going to be unplayable due to bad optimization.
Yeah I'll finish Cyberpunk 2.0 and then get into Spider-Man 2. I also need to finish my replay of Alan Wake to prepare for Alan Wake II. Cities Skylines 2 should have been delayed for many months to optimize the game.
Releasing unfinished, not ready games seems to be the norm these days. I've resorted to playing old games now just to have some good gaming feels. Dungeon Siege, Black & White, Homeworld, Diablo II, TES: Oblivion, NeverWinter Nights, Sid Meier's games, IceWind Dale etc...
OMG, I loved black and white 😂
I can't even find black and white anymore.
Thanks Jake. I totally agree with this review of Cities Skylines 2! The game definitely has its advantages, like the improved graphics and expanded gameplay options. I'm loving the enhanced city-building experience. However, I can't ignore the downsides either, as there are still some performance issues and bugs that need to be addressed. It's clear that the game has a lot of potential, but there's still work to be done to optimize it fully. Looking forward to seeing how the developers continue to improve it
I must admit I was not expecting a before you buy for this. As a serious player of the original (mods and all) I feel this sets the foundation for the future of what will eventually become a worthy successor, but as of right now, I agree that this needs more time in the oven. Yet, I see its potential, and for those who are creative and mostly patient, I'm sure they can already take what is offered and make something really cool. To be fair to the development team, this and the original were made by only a few dozen developers.... quite a feat if you ask me...
I think they plan on bringing user created(approved by them) mods to console, I haven’t heard anything official but it seems that way with how they are forcing players to user their website for mods rather than steam. That was my main complaint with the last game because I was a console player
As a casual player and serious viewer(Kibitz) of CS 1. I'll agree with this. Though I was waiting for this for 2 months so I'll ignore the disadvantages and play it.
Apparently about 12 people last time. This time they're about 30.
@@bruhWTH43there are official info about it and yes most mods will be available consoles through their platform, except the script and more advanced mods. However some modders are not happy about the change and probably some of them will leave. Eventually theres hopefully be a good modding community again depending how paradox succeeds with their plans but it will probably take some time. But yea generally pc users are not happy moving out from steam workshop at this time.
@bruhWTH43 same here. Really frustrated by the up to six month delay but hopefully it will be worth it 🤞
The thing that disappointed me the most was that this game didn't fix the "squares" where people can build buildings, I really hoped they would make it so wherever you made a block, people could organically build in there and occupy all the space you gave them, just like real life, thats the thing that breaks imersion the most in this game, green spaces between buildings in a very dense area.
It is known cities skylines favors the American infrastructure with blocks everywhere. Hopefully we will get mods soon which adds something like RICO.
Same! Biggest miss...
@@kwando472 and yet again, a genuine fan needs to wish for a modder to do paradox's job for them to get a fully functioning game.
It barely tales a few minutes of scrolling through a comment section about this game to find like 5 of you and people still wanna say CS1 wasn't finished being developed by modders and that this game won't follow suit.
As someone who played the 1st game and did not see any reason why i would want to play the 2nd one, i have to say your review is excellent and presents all the new systems and quirks of the new game and actually makes me want to buy it (eventually).
Thank you 😊
As others have mentioned, this seems like a game to pick up months or a year from now. Thanks for the video!
Their required specs is ridiculous, the lack of optimization of this game is terrible.
How do you know it isn't just a complex game? No one has built a game remotely similar to this. This is a game on a whole new level of simulation.
@MegaLokopo c'mon.... youre kidding.
Only 7% of steam users has the recommended hardware, and that wont even run a decent ciry above 1080 at 30fps.
They designed a game that will at best only run 'poorly' for the top 7% of gamers?
@@dougmasters4561 It isn't that hard to build a game so complex hardware hasn't caught up yet. Space engineers is a great example, you can do so much computers in the next 50 years won't be fast enough to play the game at it's full potential.
They designed the best game they could for CS2, the problem is hardware has not caught up yet. No matter how hard they try, there is only so much they can do before having to remove features. I am sure if the simulation was as simple as CS1, It would perform better than CS1 and look better.
@@MegaLokopo stop dickriding, even the devs paradox literally says "our game performance sucks" in the latest news! They are more honest than you dickriders
@@MegaLokopofactorio runs entire factory simulations
I have nearly 1,000 hours in the first game. I want to get this one, but I'll probably wait a few months to give the devs time to polish it more and for the modders to work their magic. I have so many mods for the first game I can't imagine playing it vanilla now.
One thing I'm looking forward to. A vanilla gameplay.
Cs2 don't have steam workshop now
Don't forget to donate if you can
@@TigerWon To be honest, that's what I was waiting for lol. I just can play Cities skyline 1 with a lot of mods. But I need to update and re checke very mods everytime I want to play, it's a real mess. So when I got my new Pc at the beginning of the year, I didn't reinstall Cities Skyline, and just wait for CS2, for a fresh start. I will need at least 1 mod to make things harder with less income and stuff like that, to manage something. But otherwise I will be able to stop playing 2 weeks and just reclick on the game without problems and fears
@@ayush21399 Of course, the game releases today (Tuesday); not sure if games usually have their workshop up before the game drops...
I agree, needed more time, but I have put 12 hours in between yesterday and today and I am loving the game. I am so excited to watch Skylines 2 grow and improve.
One thing I noticed that is good with night mode ; the darkness gives the player ability to read the info view more clearly..
I needed this "Before you buy". Thanks Jake ! 👍
no problem. thanks for stopping by!
Maaaaaan, seems like it has tons of potential. Lets hope it gets fixed sooner rather than later. Thanks for the informative review Jake, as always 🤟
Do you mean NOT 3 YEARS LATER?
*had. its dead on arrivel due to the preformence probloms. Unless it has a cyberpunk moment this will not end well.
Yeah, at least Colossal Order was upfront and honest about performance issues before release, unlike most devs
@@MauseDaysAutocorrect problems? 😂
@@MauseDays it will be fine. if i trust any company to fix their game, it's Colossal
I like how digital foundary has become "the channel" to quote whenever talking about graphics and fps. good on them , they're amazing! XD
Ngl, this video has now made me decide to wait and see what happens. I dont want to buy newly released game to play on my 4090 rig, but still have to turn down settings so far to play it due to a game tech problem. Really hope this gets fixed quickly. Loved SimCity and looks like I would love this eventually as well.
Thank you for talking about the performance and saying it should’ve been delayed in the release. Most other creators haven’t said anything about performance maybe because they all have the best pcs
That or because they're brain dead. The game runs horribly even on the best PCs, barely pushing above 30fps on freakin 3080s. Nowadays it's the trend to release horribly optimized games but this is a new low.
On the contrary ever single review I’ve seen mentions the performance.
Not just performance, graphic glitches too. i have a 4090, fps is fine, but looks terrible.
@@peterbelanger4094 FPS is not fine at all. 60fps on a 4090 is absolutely not fine at all. It should be running at 200fps on that GPU minimum.
@@michaelzomsuv3631 same , i have little stutters and fps drops with an 7900xtx
Quote“It didnt need to be this way” by Jake Baldino unquote. 3:19 truly a statement to all game developers from the fans
I was really looking forward to this game, I'm kinda bummed now but very thankful that I'm able to see someone I trust with game recommendations give me their opinions. I'll probably wait a bit before I get it. Thank you Jake.
Wow 97,000 views in 5 hours! Congrats. Well u did a great job here. Yah, the does not look polished or ready yet. I was gonna grab it on the first day, but now I decided to wait. Thanks Again!!
FINALLY, that show were you give me some straight-up gameplay and your first impressions of the latest games releasing! Been waiting for this
from how you explained it and what you showed, the districts sound and look identical to the ones in the first skylines with only the tool to paint them having changed from a brush to a click and drag
I dunno. I really like the way it looks. I don't think it looks anything like CS1. Cs1 looked much more cartoonish.
@@digby_dooright but I wasn't talking about the whole game, I was specifically talking about the districts tool.
Great video. I don't do games but will get into this because I did play the first one. Will they still continue to improve the details like people activity and stuff that currently needs to improve after they release it? Or do they release the game and once its released they don't improve it anymore other than patches?
Love the before you buys, they help me decide on games when in doubt
I spend many hours in the first one and was looking forward to this but now I'm glad I can give it a shot on gamepass before pulling the trigger on the purchase
👍🏼
Theres a lot of good in this game. There's clearly a lot of very passionate devs for this game. Its just unfortunate that management forced them to launch it before it was ready
Although without bugs and glitches, the same can't be said about its bad performance and technical issue for low-end pcs tho-
Management had no hand in developing a game that requires a 'can it run Crysis' type of PC setup?!
Which idiot lead designer thought it would be cool to not consider the majority of PC players and their setups in mind? What are we all supposed to upgrade or get new PCs just to play a city building game?!
@@kamma44 That's how you develop a game, you get everything running, then you start to make it usable. It's just this game is getting released 6months to a year to early
I love how management is always at fault and not the inept devs
@@kamma44you obviously have no experience in software or the video game industry. I guarantee you management is responsible for this. I guarantee you the devs were telling management that the game isn't ready to be released and that it should be delayed again
I’m an original sim city fan, from the old Windows 95 and SNES days. It’s been a while since I’ve tried my hand at a city builder, but I did have this one on my calendar. Looks like I’ll be checking out the first game instead. Someday. After I finish all these other games that just keep coming this year. 😅
Again.
Why I've been subscribed to you for more than a decade. Thank you.
I almost pre-ordered, but decided to wait for the actual release and wait for the comments. Thanks for the honest review! You're not the first person to mention performance issues.
Was thinking the same about the performance. In many videos i'd see the FPS tanking like crazy and not a single mention of it anywhere. I'm really glad to hear it here and it confirmed my suspicions that it wasn't well optimised for day one. Tragic that this is the way games are being released...
OMG. Thank you! As someone who's not interested in the Triple A craze, I was really waiting for Citylines 2! ❤🙏🏻
Same. After Kerbal 2 failure and this, I guess I'll keep waiting for something else 😂
Jake's word of the day, say it with me "Granular" lol, great video Jake!
Very useful. I was very tempted. CS1 required a very beefy machine when it first appeared, but this seems like I would need to wait for a while.
I anticipated this and I know it’s going to take some time for it to live up to the billing
The life saver Jack mf Balidino.
thanks
@@gameranxTVhey Jack! Lol
Hi ! I love your videos but I wanted to ask if you are gonna do a before you but for Metal Gear Solid collection Vol. 1 or any videos on it
I can agree that it needs more time in development regarding optimazation, although it is also way more complex and it contains more features so it makes sense that its laggier. I do think that when console will come out (which is delayed) that PC will also be more optimized by then
Laggier, sure maybe, but it shouldn't take literally top of the line graphics cards to RELIABLY squeeze 60fps out on not even fully on high settings.
When is someone going to release a fantasy/medieval city builder like this... =(
look out for Manor Lords
Try Foundation.
Probably pretty soon. It's called Manor Lords. They already had a public demo like a year ago. Hopefully it will get a release date this month.
Stronghold is about to have a new release and they let you world build peacefully
Banished is old timed building. Fun and dirt cheap now.
when they announced the performance issues and no mod support I went from pre order to trying it with a free gamepass trial. it could be months if not over a year before i pick it up properly depending on how rough it is and if I wait I might as well wait for discounts too. They really should have delayed it but I assume Paradox wanted it out for the holidays and Colossal Order is now stuck frantically patching it. CO is an incredible dev so theyll turn it around with a bit of time
A very straight foward analization! For what i seen in your video and gameplay on the background, it seems fine. I always played C.S 1 using all the resources i had. I had a GTX 750, 1GB and 12 GB of ram. It was on its limit, but i managed to play it. The game graphics are already very good! So i'm sure if you guys play it on low quality you won't that strange while on it, cause the game gives you so much opportunities and way of doing things that you might forget. Now, if you're the ''graphics guy'' and want to play with realistic textures and real time shadows, for what i heard everywhere, listen to this guy and don't buy it yet.
Being able to expand a building like in Sim City 5 is awesome. That was honestly the only thing about Cities Skylines 1 that I thought Sim City did better.
Same
Industrial and Commercial district specializations and resources have been available since pretty early on in the CS1 DLC pipeline. A lot of what I've seen in early plays of the game showed some pretty severe lack of optimization and visual content. I really hope Colossal Order makes these an early priority.
Not fair to compare a game with DLC to a game without it. He compared Vanilla to vanilla, the way it SHOULD be.
@@dr.bherrin A vanilla sequel should ALWAYS be a massive improvement over it's previous iteration from 10 years earlier with dlc. This shouldn't even be up for debate.
@@dr.bherrinNah, its perfectly fair, a base sequel should always include improvements which were added to the original over time orherwise what's the fucking point!!?
It should never wipe the slate clean as if it's their first game all over again and they learned nothing from the original.
This is where gamepass comes into play. Although I have a beefy PC I am still worried about the performance, if its bad I'll just uninstall it and it won't cost me a buck. Freaking love gamepass!
It's still bad, wait for next month
@@zondor8123 I already pre-installed it so I might as well give it a shot. If the performance is abysmal then I will definitely uninstall it.
@@zondor8123 yeah I am going to try it anyways. Got it preloaded only 10 hours till release.
The PC doesen't matter. Even 13900k and RTX 4090 users don't even get consistently 30fps at 1080p.
@ They don't even get 30 at 720p. Even with the most powerful gaming CPU the 7800X3D. This game is a mess.
It's just like The Sims. You're better off playing the old game with all the DLC's and mods for about a year before it's a worthwhile successor. Thank you Jake for your honesty.
Mate your content is amazing, I’ve been watching your content ever since the Minecraft 360 Edition Review GRTV. Keep up the great work! Ps: you deserve 10 mill
Love Skylines 1, and very excited for a Skylines 2, thank you for previewing it! Hmm.. I'm glad the foundation is better but.. I guess I am slightly nervous that I kept watching the video and second-guessing myself. It felt like you were showing Skylines 1. And here and there some features and changes would show up, but graphically, it just looked so much like 1.. So I hope it Really leans into the gameplay being improved (which will be hard as Skylines 1 was quite good) 'cause it will be hard to distinguish from the 1st at the moment. Mmm.. just curious.. is 'poop bay' gone finally in 2? Or the giant tsunami waves that swept through your city if you elevated even one thing slightly wrong?
What is poop bay?
@@djxgam1ng So you know how everything flows downstream? Well, in Skylines 1 the first thing you do is add sewage stations (even with all the later mods that came up). All that sewage flows downstream and, if you had an open-water at the end of the river, or lake, or something, it quickly turned brown. Later on (with mods / DLC) you could try to start 'cleaning that up' a bit, but only if you were able to and chose to unlock the tiles that led you to that body of water where it was all collecting. Otherwise you had this gorgeous view of your finely crafted city, skylines, mountains, and.. poop.
We could have mentioned that Paradox is somewhat evil in their DLC politics. They released about 20 addons for the first one and most of them are ~15 €.
The game is good (at least better than the latest SimCity) but they are also greedy.
love the before u buy on this one. love that you know the game and it shows! good work!
the before you buy suit with game head never gets old.
Also a big fan of the original - I was really looking forward to it because their lead up videos have been great, but even those had plenty of weird visual glitches if you paused at the right time. Will most likely pick it up bundled with the first expansion further down the line
Thanks for the honest take. Too many reviewers are being too kind right now.
With the quarry it should lower the elevation in the surrounding area and have requirements with building damns or dikes near water sources and having to manage the ground water if your quarry lowers the elevation below the water table.
I love all buildings and how there more realistically to scale
Thanks for your impressions! One of the things that jarringly stood out to me immediately was also firetrucks not actually using water...A clear sign this game had no time for polish and optimization (since this animation / feature is already in CS1).
Will Wright (Sim City) is a genius. Tho i can't play games without an end, i've always appreciated their potential as a playable world building tool for future game designers.
I wish he was still developing games.
@@johnsonaustinjI wish he hadn’t turned over the keys of Maxis to EA. 😂😂
@@TheDawnofVanlifeeverybody's gotta get paid 😔
These reviews are really good. Great job
Great video as always
These heads for thumbnails are getting crazy 😅
They really should do open betas for performance issues.... It's hard to fix things without a large amount of hardware profiles reporting bugs and what not... Hopefully release gives them enough data to figure out what needs to be fixed fast. Also update your GPU drivers before playing. Developers and GPU makers usually work together to fix bugs on big releases.
Well, it has been delayed for console's, they know it won't run very well on most systems unless you have a upper class PC, which I am lucky to have... but most people are even still rocking GTX 1080s from a few years ago... which honestly, even cs1 can put my PC to its knees with an 81 tile mod city. This might actually be a todd howard upgrade your PC moment lol.
@@arcadeportal32 Yeah I mean that is PC gaming for you. Have to upgrade eventually. 1080 is pushing 7 years old. That said I think a 10 series card will be able to play the game in 1080p. Cityplanner plays got a 970 to run it at a framerate I would call playable on very low. The 10 series was a huge leap from the 9 series. I recently upgraded from a 2070 super to a 4070ti because I wanted to max out ray tracing in cyberpunks DLC. I looked up how much my 2070 super sells for and it can be bought for 150 on ebay. That seems like a really good deal considering that card handles pretty much everything besides overdrive ray tracing in cyberpunk. Even handled that game unoptimized before DLSS with ray tracing on without a problem.
I think people got complacent about upgrading because it wasn't necessary for so long because everything was getting ported to ps4 and xbox 1. We are in the next gen now. Should they keep making last gen games for pc?
@@arcadeportal32 Sidenote most people commenting on this have no idea what they are talking about. I think Biffa said the most telling thing if I remember correctly. That is if you run out of ram it starts paging to the hard drive. So 32 gb of ram might solve most peoples problems. I actually got 32gb because mods in skylines 1 require tons of memory. Nothing else I play requires that much.
Hard drive paging is something I never thought I would ever hear about again, probably a sign of memory leaks. If this happens the game will be extremely slow even if you are paging off a super fast nvme drive. This was a common problem in the windows XP days lol....
That's all fine and dandy but 27 FPS with a 4090 is not a "beta optimization" problem.
@@Secretsofsociety i have 48GB of ram for my rig, and CS1 can take up close to 40 gb of it when loading. It avg around in the 20s after loading, it's kinda bonkers
I am always waiting before I buy on your video. W content.
One caveat with all Paradox Interactive published games should be that the game will have LOTS and LOTS of DLCs down the line and will eventually even feel incomplete without some of those DLCs. So the upfront cost of just the base game is never the entire cost of the game when it comes to Paradox games. Cities Skylines 1 itself has DLC's worth many 100's of $!!
Jake keepin it real as always. I love Before you buy.
City planner plays recently did a benchmark video on different hardwares and settings and gave his advice.
Ok
Love that guy, he's honest unlike Biffa where he immediately delete negative comments about the game performance 😂
What about the background music? I really loved Mars radio in CS 1 for all that humor. I wished there'll be more of it.
You could set district policies and industries in the first one too. I'm gonna wait till it's optimized though
and a good video as always
thanks!
Im gonna get it and see how it goes. Hopefully, it runs well on this Razer 15. I've been waiting patiently for it. Im seeing a lot of new features that look interesting; the seasons, car accidents, and such - looks like there is a new sewage management system as well if I'm not mistaken. I'm looking forward to playing and I really hope it goes well.
The devs themselves are optimizing and I advise for the mid range PC to wait for another month
I have a amd 3900x, rtx 3080ti and 64GB of ram (i run vms and doing development)... i am actually kind of nervous about this running on my rig given the few reviews i have seen already... Granted i will be doing 1440p and not 4k, but still... 4090s barely getting 30fps and even struggling for 20fps at times at 4k on mid settings is kind of making me nervous...
pirate it, and when they get their stuff together you can buy it. Stop making unoptimized games that cant even run properly a profitable business model
@@michaelhanson5773you will want to use 1080p if you want more than 60fps
@@Sike55the better option is the buy and refund. they will see those refunds as the most valuable stat, not the number of pirates
Played the 1st one w/ a bunch of quality of life mods, I didn't go too crazy. Since the 2nd is on Gamepass Im going to try it out. I do also expect them to make a lot of improvements over the next couple of years.
Please review ghostrunner 2 next! It genuinely looks like a GOTY contender from what I’ve seen so far.
Things that need to be fix and added or worked over. (Please Read) Before you buy.
Issues that need to be fix
Better Performance
FPS drops
Light reflection needs to be fix
Broken elevation on assets with rough terrain
Unrealistic building collapses
Farms having to many utility barns in there fields
NPCs colliding into groups meshing together
Realistic population
Car colliding into groups meshing together
To many billboards on buildings
Grass textures on assets not matching terrain
Crain's being used for low end zooning
Unrealistically tall cairns for skyscrapers
NPCs tanking FPS
Grass and sand texture mesh breaking
Street signs not showing accrete street names
Texture clipping with roads and assets
Pedestrian bridges not connecting to elevated roads
Lack of detail
Settings we need added
Option to turn off sessions
Option to turn off rain
Traffic Destination
Option to turn off tree growth
Optimization for NPCs
More optimization for low-mid end PCs
Option to turn off the grey path finding lines on roads
Prop precision
Texture paint brush
Disable unwanted/ugly assets
Building level control
Automotive bulldoze brush tool
Place anywhere tool
Hide poop and waste texture on sea and land
Things we want added without a DLC paywall.
Mod support
Mod support for steam
Stop signs for one ways intersections
Stop lights for one ways intersections
Realistic assets for low-high end housing
Realistic assets Low-mid end commercial
Realistic European assets seen in CS1
Above ground subway stations
More assets variety
More vehicles variety
Bike lanes
Standalone sea wall networks
Canals and sewers networks
Docks and peers
Prop and billboards
Blimps
Desert maps
Tropical maps
Smaller assets options for schools services and other facility's
Realistic animation for buildings being constructed
Realistic animation for buildings being demolish
Modular Buildings
Custom Modular Airports
Custom Modular Power Stations
Custom Modular Industries
Add other country flags assets
More dynamic and realistic maps
Stadiums and concerts
Corner/Tringle Buildings for roads with 60-130 degree angles
More early-mid century historical architecture assets
Majority of the natural disasters
Preordered, complete with the season pass; now, not sure how much I'll be playing straight out the gate (work is being... "fun"), but don't mind supporting the Devs given how CS1 worked out. And definitely can't wait to see what the modders do (mostly on the asset side) in the near term.
You didn't support the people who worked on CS1 by buying CS2. They're different people. You just gave your money to a corporate entity and a group of people who were fine with releasing this mess, that's all you did.
I swear, you fanboys/girls do LITERALLY no research into the games you buy.
@gameranx I don't know if you know this, but if you listen very carefully, there's an echo when you talk in the video. It's barely noticeable, but it's either an echo of what you are saying, or there was someone else talking in your office.
I was SOOOOO excited for this game to come out especially with all the content creators playing it the last month
Can we appreciate how this man never fails to give us his straight up gameplay and first impressions?
I'm sticking with the og until it come on console. I hope they fix issues soon.
Great video, but what was the voice I kept hearing in the background? lol, was that the game?
Are the buildings Residential/Industrial/Commercial procedurally generated? I think that would be an interesting feature to have zones of the map where there are AI Developers who will build their buildings there following a certain theme in their "property"
I must be a simple person, because I don't think the game looks bad at all. Concerned about the framerate, but not that much overall. CS1 also was a taxing game on the PC, so I am hoping I can just live with it.
Yeah I don't get it. I don't like the performance either, but I don't get people calling it "ugly" or "graphics are bad". Even on their lowest they're still 10x better than Cities Skyline 1, at least to me.
@@Perseus7567 Exactly! It feels like the folks making these comments never played CS1.
It look fine
But i could just play cs 1 with mods and it will look better with more fps
@@kangsate3459 I definetly do not agree with that take. Aside from the major increase in features, the visuals are clearly superior to CS1.
I love Cities Skylines! Very disappointed to hear about the technical state of the game
Districts, farmlands and targeted resource indistrial areas were all on game one. So can download that dlc while you wait for cs2 to be fixed!
I'm looking forward to playing this! I honestly loved the first one.
I’d push back on the part about terrain doing weird things or cars clipping through roads and each other. This is sort of par for the course with CS1, so while it would have been nice to not have that in CS2, it certainly is not a deal breaker if you enjoy the CS1 experience
This is the reason I love this channel. I was tempted to get the game, but the devs coming out and saying its not optimized was a HUGE red flag to me. It seems to show. Thanks for the honest review!
Note to devs: A delay is better than crap! We can wait!
You think Colossal Order wanted to release an unoptimized game? Blame Paradox
As the other comment said blame paradox. They’re really greedy to an alarming degree.
I played Skylines1 pretty casually just sort of experimenting with city building. I like that the new one adds some new features and streamlines water and electricity better but it also doesn't look super fleshed out yet. Maybe it just needs some more updates and dlc, Paradox will certainly roll those out, but when you release a new game especially a sequel you want to make it look like it's already a great experience. Think HoI4 vs 3 or Crusader Kings 3, even the new Victoria has much newer graphics and ui that could make it worth checking out for players of other games in the series or want to jump in with a more polished experience that is expected to grow.
Absolutely loved the first game, I bought CS2. I have the same technical issues as you regarding frame rate and I'm still having a blast.
Usually with Cities, the common mindset is wait until a year to 2 years since that is when the stability/performance fixes and DLCs makes the game better.
I feel like that's pretty much every new release nowadays😓
This is why Baldur's Gate 3 was so important. I shouldn't have to wait a year for a game to work as intended. Developers should launch finished games.
@@patricknorris9334They realized they could do half the work and then see how sales go and then decided if they should give up and move on or half ass a couple updates + twitter announcements.
‘Usually’ with Cities….there’s been ONE game, there is no ‘usually’. I honestly think they should have taken the extra time for the polish. Because Cities 1 did so well in recent history people are willing to give it a pass. But the improvement should have been more polish on initial release of the sequel, not the same level of polish. And mods (also known as free player labor) should not be a tool devs rely on.
There's been one game so where in the hell are you coming up with that "Usually" nonsense from? Game is poorly optimized and can only be run on the high end stuff. They shit the bed with the launch of this game
Itll take a little bit for them to truly optimize this. The biggest thing is that the community needs to give it a little time and continue to support the game. There's enormous potential here, and i understand the devs were trying to get the game in players hands and put optimization a little on the backburner for the time. This is already an incredible game!
considering the first game was very popular, I assume most people will love to see this game thrive
Agreed. My biggest hope is this isn't as big a flop as KSP2 was. This game looks super promising, and I know it's going to get better. But first impressions matter, and if this games flops, it may struggle to recover - more so with them moving some tools like modding off of steam (which I don't disagree/agree with) and starting off with poor performance. If they get modding off the ground fairly fast, it'll resolve alot of the prop issues which will allow more granular details people have pointed out are missing, but it's hard to optimize performance on a game with performance issues.
If we continue to support companies that do this then corporations are just going to keep pushing unfinished games. You understand that right? At some point we have to say enough is enough. Kerbal Space Program 2 is pulling this shit as well. They delayed that game like 4 years and it’s still garbage.
Why support a game that is not ready?!
Paradox nor Colossal Order are short of money to bring out this game. It's plain and simple greed!
The game should be supported when and if they fix the most basic things first?!
Lol..love that airport query 10:28 😂
your honesty is always appreciated
Hi gameranx first comment here edit: sixth comment lol I’ll try next time
Hi
@@gameranxTV wow I did not expect you to reply to my comment
Another AA game undercooked? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you.
I mean…I’d categorize this as a AA game. The developer only has like 30 employees, and probably a pretty modest budget.
It's not a triple AAA game
I edited it. Doesn't really matter. It is still inexcusable to put out a bad product when you made a ton of money with the first one. People buying these half-baked games are why we keep getting shit on.
@@Olbrooks Oh yes, how dare they make mistakes. Let's send them to bankruptcy, that'll teach em. More likely every studio will say "Oh look, people don't want city builders anymore...we're not touching that genre."
@badpuppy3 you think this is a mistake? It's a business model. Mistakes happen once. This happenes over and over cause people like you defend it so they get away with it.
Thx man, Gonna wait whit this... and play Cities: Skylines for now
Please a make a before you buy for the Crew Motorfest
The thing people need to remember, it took cs1 YEARS to get to where it was. This game is still in baby stage. If I recall, the first skylines was also kinda like the beginning of this one. It will take time and I believe the devs will not drop this game. Given time, this will be amazing!
I guess the problem is that if you have the first one and have bought all the DLC for it, then there is currently no reason to buy the second one. If the second one makes no money then the devs can't justify sinking more money and time into it fixing it. Also, it seems like the second one is missing a lot of the content that had been added to the first as DLC, meaning now we the players get to re-buy the same content trickled out over years all over again.
I mean, yeah it took years to get to where it is now, but it's release state was at least playable on high end computers at the time. Hell Nerd3 had massive cities running buttery smooth
You just described a beta.
@@TheRealSonicBeatsnerd3 is the goat RUclipsr. Shame his content doesn’t have the same magic anymore :/
cs1 was a free mod for half-life 1. Until near the end of 1.5 was supported by a few handful of volunteer devs….