Two bits of note on this deck. Commune with Spirits is great turn 1 tech for smoothing out land-lite vs. enchantment-lite hands. Second, placing a pause on upkeep when sagas are about to flip is a good idea - even when you don't have a Rite of Harmony in hand. If you topdeck one, you can then play it in the paused draw step before the sagas flip. I've been playing this deck since the previous standard, and it's my favorite deck by far.
@@Goldy01 an "upkeep stop" on MTGA is actually a "beginning phase stop" and pauses both on upkeep and draw step. Sagas don't flip until beginning of main phase
I might have to try Rite in my modern bant tokens but chatterfang everytime I've played it it's just way too slow and dies before it ever does anything.
39:20 Because your Naya deck is actually working and beating a lot of those black based decks, it feels diverse enough. Like, sure, you're facing a lot of decks running the same core of good black cards, but you're playing a deck that seems good at picking them apart, which means in a month we could see a somewhat more diverse meta that includes this Saga list floating around in the mix, and then maybe some blue-based deck that is good at handling Sagas but not so good at handling black decks, etc. If you were getting stomped by black decks over and over, it would feel like the meta is stale, but since you're doing fairly well, it feels more like a "we broke it" kind of thing that indicates a meta shift, and I'm happy to see that.
Yra exactly. When you are comfortably beating the top deck its fine. If you are barely beating the deck you are designed to beat thats when there's an issue
Black isn't even that much of a problem for me anymore. It's still heavily prevalent, but now that I've adapted my decks to deal with it, it's usually favorable for me to get matched up vs black. Blue tempo is the TRUE scourge of this (as well as every other) format. I legitimately don't understand how you're supposed to combat a perfect turn 0 transformed Delver. Cancerous Curious-Obsession-wannabe into unlimited card draw; leading to unlimited counterspells which they always have mana for because they never need to play a single card to advance beyond their turn 1/2 curve. But Djinn and Tolarian Terror sure make their presence known despite never needing to hit the field. Too much bounce, too much card draw, too much protection, too much effortless counterspells, too much damage. Absolutely maddening archetype.
39:00 I think too many people are playing black. It is annoying to be playing against the same 6 cards (Lilly, Underdog, Meathook, Trespasser, Sheoldred, Invoke). It's not like Black is OP either. Mono white control, this deck; there's a ton of cool powerful decks in standard right now. I've had a ton of success with Bant Superfriends.
Agreed. I partially blame the Arena model. Mono black was shown early on to be an absolute house thanks to Shelly and Lilly, so a lot of people spent tons of their wild cards filling it out. Now they're slowly building them back up while playing the one deck they crafted that has a chance in current meta. I suppose my thought is that prohibitive costs on digital cardboard make for stale metas.
@@matthewsanchez7953 that makes sense. Meathook is prolly the best card in the format, so for the sake of spikes on arena, crafting that makes the most sense.
@@matthewsanchez7953 i think that's pretty accurate, and i think it goes a bit deeper than that, in that the spikes are the ones more likely to be spending $$$ to get those wildcards to spend on the meta decks, and the f2p players being more likely to be the brewers who could come up with some weird brew to flip the meta on its head, but never actually doing it because they lack the wildcards...
Dude, I have been waiting for you to play Rite of Harmony for the longest time. A couple of things about Rite of Harmony, you could also put a stop on your first main phase instead of upkeep, not that that actually matters much. Also, if you have Weaver of Harmony on the battlefield you don’t have to set a stop.
Yeah, I don’t know how it works in Arena, but I thought it was weird that he was casting in upkeep instead of casting while the saga triggers were on the stack.
Yeah, it's mostly an Arena thing. I know if I put a stop on the upkeep I'll be able to cast Rite in time, but I don't really trust Arena's stop system in general. It seems like I end up doing it too late a decent percent of the time and miss the stop all together.
Can't believe I didn't know about rite of harmony. It was the missing piece for enchantments to really go off. Had tried literally everything else in every color combo. Rite of Harmony + jukai naturalist + hallowed haunting with selesnya sagas is crazy effective, consistent and resilient
a few cards I found helpful in consistency: Love Song of Night and Day can do the draw duty pretty well, and Commune with Spirits can be a great digging piece.
I notice that we're in Red solely for Fable of the Mirror-Breaker. How much would it shave off our budget it was replaced with, I dunno, Michiko's Reign of Truth?
@@forbiddenaether1012 I mean, hey, I'm not blaming him. I'm just thinking that this could actually be a decent budget brew if you swapped out those dual lands and the $64+ playset of (admittedly very sweet and powerful) red sagas.
there is a black combo that makes your oppoent draww half their deck in explorer, but it was used with an enchantment. i think it was dogged persuit or something. sheildred is a much better version but i want to see an explorer deck that uses the "give you cards to burn you alive" combo
The prevalence of black decks likely comes from the fact that black has almost every effect you could possibly want amongst its cards, sometimes even just incidentally. Card draw, reanimation, removal, graveyard hate, sweepers, and really efficient threats. So, most random piles of mono-black cards will be reasonably functional and flexible, something that can't be said about your average random pile of other mono-colored cards. It also splashes really well, because there just happen to be a lot of good multicolored cards with black in them (Ob Nixilis, Harvester, Raffine, Zur, Windgrace, Anvil), and it shores up whatever weakness that particular color might have. It also helps that basically every other dominant deck archetype lost most of their staple cards while black got to keep a few of its best ones, with really good cards to replace the ones that it lost.
Ohh, I have a fun against the odd deck. its a dollhouse of horrors and a value engine deck using karn, scion of urza, oni cult anvil, sokozan smelter, thought monitors, and combustible gearhulks
@@MTGGoldfish yes, but it is a little rough, with a few more wildcards and some tuning it should be an excellent deck. kinda don't have the mana fixing for it though. x1 merchant's dockhand x3 rona's vortex x1 fatal push x4 mystic reflection (can copy draw spells) x1 narset's reversal x1 altar of bhaal x1 scrapheap scrounger x3 sokenzan smelter x3 oni cult anvil x1 brazen borrower x3 divide by 0 x2 karn scion of urea x4 dollhouse of horrors x1 torrential gearhulk x1 blood on the snow x2 combustable gearhulk x4 thought monitor
Answering Seth's question from 39:10. The thing is Black is very strong in this rotation. The same thing can be said when mill was the strongest archetype in the previous rotation. I'm not sure if it's a blatant pattern, but it seems like every rotation there's at least one meta in Standard.
Im really sick of the back-based decks. ALL of the current standard best cards are black, and people just swap around some components. I just cant play anymore and have given up totally on this standard format after so many of the same black based decks.
Seth's pronunciation of Eiganjo is especially driving me up the wall today. Normally it's tolerable, but I'm considering clicking off while I'm down here in the comments.. Seth, if you're reading this, it's AYY-GONE-JOE. Not "Ejanno".
When it comes to standard meta I feel like it's really stale and uninteresting right now. The 20 black cards are almost always there, and the number of people not playing black is really low. All the rakdos/dime/orzhov decks also play the same spells with just 3 to 4 differences each time. And when it comes to Modern, I'd say it's the other way around. Sure, you see a lot of Ragavans but honestly I don't think they are too strong for the format. There's a huge variety of playable decks - Hammer, Murktide, both versions of Death's Shadow, Amulet, Scam, Living End, Rhinos, Merfolk, 8 Rack and so on. Most of these do use some MH2 cards but they don't all share a 20-card package with one another.
Seth is just so completely unhinged. You can see it in his eyes. He's spent so much time playing against the odds decks, he's lost all grounding to reality or truth. It's wonderful to see. "meeting of the five? what a crazy good card, loved it"
For your question at ~39:10 No, these decks don't seem diverse. They all have the exact same base and some of them just come with a twist. Invoke, Tenacious, Liliana, Meathook, and cemetery. Then you can either go full black or splash another color for what you want. White - anointed -- Blue -- Counterspell ... it's all the same every single time. This standard rotation has not been fun to me. I've seen less and less janky decks since rotation. It's just all the same cards.
Besides the fact this was before Brothers War and Soldiers becoming a top tier deck, it definitely wasn't diverse. It was the same package of black cards with a small package of how to better utilize them. It was essentially a bunch of mirror matches with different tech. BUT Meathook getting banned I think really crippled black decks? Again besides the fact soldiers is now top tier and cheap, I feel like I don't see black decks nearly as much. You still see them because Invoke, Sheoldred, Lili, and a suite of removal is always going to be good... but black decks have become much more defensive and get beat out pretty well against the aggro decks they can't keep up with now that the life gain from meathook is gone
I mean MtG:O and Arena are clunky and ugly. Arena barely let's you read the cards before roping you. Gotta love a game that basically flips you off for not playing and keeping up with EVERY card.
39:28 i feel that black is currently seeing the "Lurrus Effect" modern did just before the ban. Lurrus was great, almost broken, so everyone played it. You had a bunch of archetypes that didnt feel diverse because "oh look, another lurrus deck" But hey, meathook is banned now so let's see how it changes :3
I love Sheoldred, but that card is making standard so stale that I haven't been logging into Arena. Every streamer I watch, plays against a Sheoldred so to answer your question any black combination is the same. lol This deck is bringing me back though, can't wait to try it :)
"We're getting punished for discarding two lands..." We? You got a mouse in your pocket? XD Tell your mouse it's fine to keep a land when you've got a grip of four other midpriced cards!
Seth, an upkeep stop at 24:20 wouldn't have helped, because I think you technically drew it after the saga transformed To add: if you could have cast it, the game would have given you the opportunity instead of passing.
Before Matches start, Me: Huh...I already invested in a playset of *Hallowed Haunting* .... I hope this 4-1s or better. I'll build this, no problem. After Matches, Me: [Check Reply]
I wouldn't expect you to play like 100 matches to find the one bant or gruul deck lol it's definitely diverse enough and I don't think people mind watching black decks get stomped
The first time I saw someone play this was CGB 12 days ago, then LVD 10 days ago. You're a little behind the times but Crim will play it in another month and complain its not grixis enough for him 🤣🤣
Would Brilliant Restoration be viable one or two of in a deck like this? It’s expensive but it could be a late game hand refill with rite of harmony and is at least a board rebuild
I could see playing it out of the sideboard to bring in in matches like Jund where the opponent can kill enchantments easily. Not sure if it would be worth it in the main deck.
I've tried this deck, it sadly doesn't hold up to the blue black mid decks or the jund mid decks. It's great at beating up on Sac and any Invoke Despair (as long as you answer Sheoldred) deck you run in to, but it's too fragile to having a few key pieces answered (even if they are harder to answer). It's a shame because the deck is fun, but according to goldfish's meta percentage (at the time of me posting this) you're bad against 37.8 percent of the meta, all of which are towards the top of the meta)
Jund is tough for sure since they are really good at killing enchantments. I don't think UB is bad though, although to be fair it isn't a matchup I've played very often with the deck.
@@MTGGoldfish I've found that I was getting answered 1 for 1 in those matchups and that they wouldn't let you take advantage of rite, enabling those 1 for 1 answers to be effective. To be fair, my sample size is also too small.
Hey Seth! quick question.. why do you cast rite of harmony on your upkeep? you could cast it in response to the saga's flipping and then you have more information (for example the card you draw on your draw step, relevant for example min 55:41)
Mostly because I don't trust myself with Arena's stop system. It's pretty easy to put a stop on your upkeep, but I don't really trust putting a stop before the Sagas flip on the main phase. If you know you are casting Rite of Harmony is plays the same, but there's less risk of an Arena issue making you miss the card draw.
@@MTGGoldfish For reference, an upkeep stop is also a draw step stop on Arena. If you have the upkeep stop set, it will also pause after card draw but before main 1. I most certainly do not blame you for taking the certainty of upkeep Rite though, Arena is an unpredictable beast sometimes.
Standard is super diverse right now, but you can only see it when playing BO3 matches. Despite being black the dominating color, there's so many variarions and combinations around it that you trully never know what deck you're going to face against. I like this black standard meta.
I disagree with it wholeheartedly. Almost everyone runs the same core and just switches some cards to draw more or to play fable. Imo this standard is extremely boring because of that.
Two bits of note on this deck. Commune with Spirits is great turn 1 tech for smoothing out land-lite vs. enchantment-lite hands. Second, placing a pause on upkeep when sagas are about to flip is a good idea - even when you don't have a Rite of Harmony in hand. If you topdeck one, you can then play it in the paused draw step before the sagas flip. I've been playing this deck since the previous standard, and it's my favorite deck by far.
Good tips!
I don't understand; the draw step is after the upkeep so how does that compute?
@@Goldy01 an "upkeep stop" on MTGA is actually a "beginning phase stop" and pauses both on upkeep and draw step. Sagas don't flip until beginning of main phase
@@jmm765psu what a bunch of bs but.. good to know
What did you trim for the communes?
I wonder what Chatterfang and Rite would do in other formats
Ooh that’s a fun concept
I might have to try Rite in my modern bant tokens but chatterfang everytime I've played it it's just way too slow and dies before it ever does anything.
Rite of Harmony + The Locust God....
@@MTGGoldfish oh that's absurd lol
39:20 Because your Naya deck is actually working and beating a lot of those black based decks, it feels diverse enough. Like, sure, you're facing a lot of decks running the same core of good black cards, but you're playing a deck that seems good at picking them apart, which means in a month we could see a somewhat more diverse meta that includes this Saga list floating around in the mix, and then maybe some blue-based deck that is good at handling Sagas but not so good at handling black decks, etc.
If you were getting stomped by black decks over and over, it would feel like the meta is stale, but since you're doing fairly well, it feels more like a "we broke it" kind of thing that indicates a meta shift, and I'm happy to see that.
Yra exactly. When you are comfortably beating the top deck its fine. If you are barely beating the deck you are designed to beat thats when there's an issue
17:55 for those wondering, Safron had 73 power on board (8 spirits and 1 baby spirit)
This deck looks hella fun! And it'll look even better on my brand new MTGGoldfish "Ebb and Flow" playmat that just arrived today!
Glad it shoed up!
52:32 Game was probably lost anyway, but you could have blocked the bloodtithe harvester for free with the Protection from Vampires.
Black isn't even that much of a problem for me anymore. It's still heavily prevalent, but now that I've adapted my decks to deal with it, it's usually favorable for me to get matched up vs black.
Blue tempo is the TRUE scourge of this (as well as every other) format. I legitimately don't understand how you're supposed to combat a perfect turn 0 transformed Delver. Cancerous Curious-Obsession-wannabe into unlimited card draw; leading to unlimited counterspells which they always have mana for because they never need to play a single card to advance beyond their turn 1/2 curve. But Djinn and Tolarian Terror sure make their presence known despite never needing to hit the field. Too much bounce, too much card draw, too much protection, too much effortless counterspells, too much damage. Absolutely maddening archetype.
Seeing Seth...not play naturalist multiple times into saga hurt. Seemingly forgetting it reduces the cost of fable every time
Upkeep stops aren't as good as 1st main phase stops bc you can topdeck Rite of Harmony and the Sagas don't flip until the main phase anyway
Upkeep stops also mean draw step stops (for Arena), and you do really want those draw step stops.
39:00
I think too many people are playing black. It is annoying to be playing against the same 6 cards (Lilly, Underdog, Meathook, Trespasser, Sheoldred, Invoke).
It's not like Black is OP either. Mono white control, this deck; there's a ton of cool powerful decks in standard right now. I've had a ton of success with Bant Superfriends.
Agreed. I partially blame the Arena model. Mono black was shown early on to be an absolute house thanks to Shelly and Lilly, so a lot of people spent tons of their wild cards filling it out. Now they're slowly building them back up while playing the one deck they crafted that has a chance in current meta. I suppose my thought is that prohibitive costs on digital cardboard make for stale metas.
@@matthewsanchez7953 that makes sense. Meathook is prolly the best card in the format, so for the sake of spikes on arena, crafting that makes the most sense.
@@matthewsanchez7953 i think that's pretty accurate, and i think it goes a bit deeper than that, in that the spikes are the ones more likely to be spending $$$ to get those wildcards to spend on the meta decks, and the f2p players being more likely to be the brewers who could come up with some weird brew to flip the meta on its head, but never actually doing it because they lack the wildcards...
You can tell Safron is excited about the deck when you have to check if you are accidentally playing the video at 1.5 speed :)
Dude, I have been waiting for you to play Rite of Harmony for the longest time.
A couple of things about Rite of Harmony, you could also put a stop on your first main phase instead of upkeep, not that that actually matters much. Also, if you have Weaver of Harmony on the battlefield you don’t have to set a stop.
Yeah, I don’t know how it works in Arena, but I thought it was weird that he was casting in upkeep instead of casting while the saga triggers were on the stack.
Yeah, it's mostly an Arena thing. I know if I put a stop on the upkeep I'll be able to cast Rite in time, but I don't really trust Arena's stop system in general. It seems like I end up doing it too late a decent percent of the time and miss the stop all together.
Rite of Harmony: better than I expected.
Edit: I never thought I'd say this, but gods I am bored of Meathook Massacre.
I personally love the flavor of the card but it’s so broken. It stifles any agro so badly. The fact it scales makes it sooo much worse
Can't believe I didn't know about rite of harmony.
It was the missing piece for enchantments to really go off. Had tried literally everything else in every color combo.
Rite of Harmony + jukai naturalist + hallowed haunting with selesnya sagas is crazy effective, consistent and resilient
It's I- GAN-JO WITH A FUCKING G AND NOT A J FFS!
HOW ARE YOU EVEN GETTING "EIJANO" OUT OF IT?!?!
Ahhhhhhhhhh
If you call “restoration of EIGANJO” restoration of ejano one more time I’m cursing you to flood all your hands
I'm with you. Most standard decks feel like Mono black and friends. (with the occasional mono blue)
a few cards I found helpful in consistency: Love Song of Night and Day can do the draw duty pretty well, and Commune with Spirits can be a great digging piece.
But it draws for them too. So it's only worth if your deck is better
@@bounceday About even, I found. However, If you're short on Fables, Love Song can be a great replacement
Yeah starting on 2 for lovesong does seem good
48:26
Seth: "We can probably win here, but I would rather draw a lot of cards."
Opponent: Immediately scoops
I notice that we're in Red solely for Fable of the Mirror-Breaker. How much would it shave off our budget it was replaced with, I dunno, Michiko's Reign of Truth?
You'd do better with Commune With Spirits instead.
Because Seth is a draw addict and can’t actually say no to value
@@bobobo7730 That's probably true. My Timmy brain was just very attracted by the thought of how BIG the Portrait of Michiko would end up being.
@@forbiddenaether1012 I mean, hey, I'm not blaming him. I'm just thinking that this could actually be a decent budget brew if you swapped out those dual lands and the $64+ playset of (admittedly very sweet and powerful) red sagas.
@@LadyMapi I'm not saying don't run a copy or 2 of Michiko, just that Commune is also very good
at 7:40 you didnt need to draw a land no? Because you could have played the naturalist and that would have made Kiki cost only 2 mana?
there is a black combo that makes your oppoent draww half their deck in explorer, but it was used with an enchantment. i think it was dogged persuit or something. sheildred is a much better version but i want to see an explorer deck that uses the "give you cards to burn you alive" combo
This deck ABSOLUTELY needs The World Spell as a way to get some finishers
This was awesome! ...I'm really disappointed that I'm missing 19 Rares from this list.
Seeing Seth play this deck singlehandedly got me back into playing on Arena.
Loving the Naya Saga Storm.
The prevalence of black decks likely comes from the fact that black has almost every effect you could possibly want amongst its cards, sometimes even just incidentally. Card draw, reanimation, removal, graveyard hate, sweepers, and really efficient threats. So, most random piles of mono-black cards will be reasonably functional and flexible, something that can't be said about your average random pile of other mono-colored cards.
It also splashes really well, because there just happen to be a lot of good multicolored cards with black in them (Ob Nixilis, Harvester, Raffine, Zur, Windgrace, Anvil), and it shores up whatever weakness that particular color might have.
It also helps that basically every other dominant deck archetype lost most of their staple cards while black got to keep a few of its best ones, with really good cards to replace the ones that it lost.
How come you didn't include that card that brings back all enchantments?
Because it isn't good.
Ohh, I have a fun against the odd deck. its a dollhouse of horrors and a value engine deck using karn, scion of urza, oni cult anvil, sokozan smelter, thought monitors, and combustible gearhulks
Sounds fun! Do you have a list?
@@MTGGoldfish yes, but it is a little rough, with a few more wildcards and some tuning it should be an excellent deck. kinda don't have the mana fixing for it though.
x1 merchant's dockhand
x3 rona's vortex
x1 fatal push
x4 mystic reflection (can copy draw spells)
x1 narset's reversal
x1 altar of bhaal
x1 scrapheap scrounger
x3 sokenzan smelter
x3 oni cult anvil
x1 brazen borrower
x3 divide by 0
x2 karn scion of urea
x4 dollhouse of horrors
x1 torrential gearhulk
x1 blood on the snow
x2 combustable gearhulk
x4 thought monitor
I just hate rakdos at this point, you see it every match in standard, every other match in modern, even brawl is full of it
7:30 Uh, why didnt you naturalist first?
Answering Seth's question from 39:10. The thing is Black is very strong in this rotation. The same thing can be said when mill was the strongest archetype in the previous rotation. I'm not sure if it's a blatant pattern, but it seems like every rotation there's at least one meta in Standard.
I prefer black over the mill/counter everything/draw go that was
Im really sick of the back-based decks. ALL of the current standard best cards are black, and people just swap around some components. I just cant play anymore and have given up totally on this standard format after so many of the same black based decks.
Seth's pronunciation of Eiganjo is especially driving me up the wall today. Normally it's tolerable, but I'm considering clicking off while I'm down here in the comments..
Seth, if you're reading this, it's AYY-GONE-JOE. Not "Ejanno".
When it comes to standard meta I feel like it's really stale and uninteresting right now. The 20 black cards are almost always there, and the number of people not playing black is really low. All the rakdos/dime/orzhov decks also play the same spells with just 3 to 4 differences each time.
And when it comes to Modern, I'd say it's the other way around. Sure, you see a lot of Ragavans but honestly I don't think they are too strong for the format. There's a huge variety of playable decks - Hammer, Murktide, both versions of Death's Shadow, Amulet, Scam, Living End, Rhinos, Merfolk, 8 Rack and so on. Most of these do use some MH2 cards but they don't all share a 20-card package with one another.
Seth is just so completely unhinged. You can see it in his eyes. He's spent so much time playing against the odds decks, he's lost all grounding to reality or truth. It's wonderful to see.
"meeting of the five? what a crazy good card, loved it"
For your question at ~39:10
No, these decks don't seem diverse. They all have the exact same base and some of them just come with a twist. Invoke, Tenacious, Liliana, Meathook, and cemetery. Then you can either go full black or splash another color for what you want. White - anointed -- Blue -- Counterspell ... it's all the same every single time. This standard rotation has not been fun to me. I've seen less and less janky decks since rotation. It's just all the same cards.
Besides the fact this was before Brothers War and Soldiers becoming a top tier deck, it definitely wasn't diverse. It was the same package of black cards with a small package of how to better utilize them. It was essentially a bunch of mirror matches with different tech. BUT Meathook getting banned I think really crippled black decks? Again besides the fact soldiers is now top tier and cheap, I feel like I don't see black decks nearly as much. You still see them because Invoke, Sheoldred, Lili, and a suite of removal is always going to be good... but black decks have become much more defensive and get beat out pretty well against the aggro decks they can't keep up with now that the life gain from meathook is gone
I mean MtG:O and Arena are clunky and ugly. Arena barely let's you read the cards before roping you. Gotta love a game that basically flips you off for not playing and keeping up with EVERY card.
39:28 i feel that black is currently seeing the "Lurrus Effect" modern did just before the ban. Lurrus was great, almost broken, so everyone played it. You had a bunch of archetypes that didnt feel diverse because "oh look, another lurrus deck"
But hey, meathook is banned now so let's see how it changes :3
love this build so durpy its good its a perfect deck for you seth!!!
It's my kind of deck for sure :)
I love Sheoldred, but that card is making standard so stale that I haven't been logging into Arena. Every streamer I watch, plays against a Sheoldred so to answer your question any black combination is the same. lol This deck is bringing me back though, can't wait to try it :)
"We're getting punished for discarding two lands..."
We? You got a mouse in your pocket? XD Tell your mouse it's fine to keep a land when you've got a grip of four other midpriced cards!
Seth, an upkeep stop at 24:20 wouldn't have helped, because I think you technically drew it after the saga transformed
To add: if you could have cast it, the game would have given you the opportunity instead of passing.
I'm not a fan of a format practically REQUIRING you to play a specific color even if the cards of that color are significantly different in each deck
@MTGGoldfish saffron! Play me on arena so I can show you this standard deck I built called 16 blob
7:28 idk why it bothers me so much when someone misplays like this (jukai reduces enchantments by 2 he could play both safely)
I'll play against any variety of black over another Haughty Djinn any day
am I the only one confused as to why he doesn't play naturalist before other enchantments ? he could've saved so much mana
The more varieties of black there are, diverse it gets.
If the meta is heavy black, it's not your fault. We need a black deck killer!
Before Matches start, Me: Huh...I already invested in a playset of *Hallowed Haunting* .... I hope this 4-1s or better. I'll build this, no problem.
After Matches, Me: [Check Reply]
....I feel cheated.
I'll still try it.
MH2 is my least favorite set because of how it killed modern's diversity
Saga tribal. Very nice to jank them out.
That Kiki is adorable in the thumbnail ❤️
Salty rope? No
Salty scoop? No
Salty geometric calculation? Yes
Salty rope? No
Salty scoop? No
Salty geometric calculation? Yes
Black is super pushed this standard and it makes the play experience suck.
26 lands ... with mtga's shuffler ... geeze thats some risk.
41:25 that's MTGA for you all!
Where is the surprise?
I wouldn't expect you to play like 100 matches to find the one bant or gruul deck lol it's definitely diverse enough and I don't think people mind watching black decks get stomped
The first time I saw someone play this was CGB 12 days ago, then LVD 10 days ago. You're a little behind the times but Crim will play it in another month and complain its not grixis enough for him 🤣🤣
Shouldn't the sagas put a +1/+1 counter on the token at 43:53?
Maybe it's because I'm not as good as Seth but um... he's not taking advantage of the Pro Vampires line on Katilda could have gained so much life
at 23 16 if seth had played that land drop he would've been able to pay for the syncopate. big yikes
Yeah, although who plays Syncopate?!?
41:20 oh, arena shuffler. When you have a good deck and have a decent win streak, Arena will give you either the flood or the screw. It sucks, though.
I've played against this deck a couple times now. The first time I saw it, I thought "what the.... hey, that's cool!"
Didn't think of rites but I had a very similar build idea with vorinclez which is fun
Vorinclex to speed up the sagas sounds super fun!
@@MTGGoldfish it was very much based around the Abzan and Jund saga decks that was on here a year ago
Seth properly pronouncing Eiganjo instead of Ejano challenge. Difficulty Impossible
So it's not storm at all because you don't gain mana
ok
Why didn’t you naturalist before fable?
Meathook, Lili, underdog... boring boring boring
Great, you've ruined my standard games lol
Why not touch of the spirit realm on the wedding announcement to shink their dudes?
Touch only hits creatures and artifacts so we can't get rid of Wedding Announcement sadly :(
Petition to start calling all BR sacrifice decks Sackdos since it’s such a common archetype.
It's not eijano, eiganjo has 2 g/j sounds hahaha
I wonder if this is workable with 5c for The Kami War...
Would Brilliant Restoration be viable one or two of in a deck like this? It’s expensive but it could be a late game hand refill with rite of harmony and is at least a board rebuild
I could see playing it out of the sideboard to bring in in matches like Jund where the opponent can kill enchantments easily. Not sure if it would be worth it in the main deck.
Is this deck better than Naya Runes was?
i had all the cards for this deck, built it. its absolutely disgusting
Sweet! Have fun!
23:00 playing the land first beats syncopate. Almost always correct to play land first.
Yeah, I just didn't realize we needed to play around Syncopate in this Standard, lol.
39:22 it’s better than just seeing rouges every match like it was last standard rotation 🤷♂️
Mono black and life gain is just pain
No wonder I ran into this twice tonight in ranked bo3... Went 1-1
Ah yes, Naya storm. Just another normal day at the table.
Set the stop on main phase so you can respond to the triggers if you desire
In Match 3 you drew 9 lands in 13, one plains was tutored out by a restoration
So...no storm...just enchantres...
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I've tried this deck, it sadly doesn't hold up to the blue black mid decks or the jund mid decks. It's great at beating up on Sac and any Invoke Despair (as long as you answer Sheoldred) deck you run in to, but it's too fragile to having a few key pieces answered (even if they are harder to answer). It's a shame because the deck is fun, but according to goldfish's meta percentage (at the time of me posting this) you're bad against 37.8 percent of the meta, all of which are towards the top of the meta)
Jund is tough for sure since they are really good at killing enchantments. I don't think UB is bad though, although to be fair it isn't a matchup I've played very often with the deck.
@@MTGGoldfish I've found that I was getting answered 1 for 1 in those matchups and that they wouldn't let you take advantage of rite, enabling those 1 for 1 answers to be effective. To be fair, my sample size is also too small.
Hey Seth! quick question.. why do you cast rite of harmony on your upkeep? you could cast it in response to the saga's flipping and then you have more information (for example the card you draw on your draw step, relevant for example min 55:41)
Mostly because I don't trust myself with Arena's stop system. It's pretty easy to put a stop on your upkeep, but I don't really trust putting a stop before the Sagas flip on the main phase. If you know you are casting Rite of Harmony is plays the same, but there's less risk of an Arena issue making you miss the card draw.
@@MTGGoldfish For reference, an upkeep stop is also a draw step stop on Arena. If you have the upkeep stop set, it will also pause after card draw but before main 1. I most certainly do not blame you for taking the certainty of upkeep Rite though, Arena is an unpredictable beast sometimes.
Could this work in pioneer???
Eye-Gone-Joe
So many tenacious underdogs
How would Jugan defends the temple fare in this deck?
I think it would be the next saga up.
I saw storm and must watch 👀
I knew Dennick would get him because I did the same thing
I knew it was going to get him the moment he asked "I wonder if this card is ever going to do anything". It was karmic justice
Eye jano
Standard is super diverse right now, but you can only see it when playing BO3 matches. Despite being black the dominating color, there's so many variarions and combinations around it that you trully never know what deck you're going to face against. I like this black standard meta.
I disagree with it wholeheartedly. Almost everyone runs the same core and just switches some cards to draw more or to play fable. Imo this standard is extremely boring because of that.
Eijano
You'd make a very fun voice actor.
Thanks, I think ;)
@@MTGGoldfish I mean no disrespect. Unique should be celebrated :)