@mrnothere9542 lol might as well go for it! Im 29 and time doesn't wait! 😅 Im a semi driver trust me, that experience counts and rhe older you get means less time! I might just go for it myself, hopefully its not sht pay afterwards 😂
To be honest it depends on the airline. Some will pay the whole cost of type rating for you and will bond you with them for a period of time. Some will ask you to cover 50% and then pay the rest in instalments. Airlines offer varying financing to accommodate their pilots. You just have to worry about acing your training and exams, rest will fall in its place. Happy Flying…
Most full time Part 61 and 141 schools will have you average 2 flight lessons a week. Each flight lesson should average 2 hours of flight time. No flight lesson except for your cross country flights should ever be three hours or more. Any lesson more than two hours becomes counterproductive. You reach a level of information saturation and a point of negative returns at or before the two hour mark. With that in mind, your flight training curriculum should consist of 20 flights. The FAA only requires 10 of those flights (written in the regs as 20 hours) to be with an instructor. Which means that you should be able to complete the 40 hours in 10 weeks. Even if half of the time, your area is hit with adverse weather, that would mean you could finish your Private Pilot Certificate in 4-5 months. If you spend the remainder of the year building time and getting your Instrument Rating, you can accumulate the 250 flight hours necessary to get your Commercial and Instructor Rating. Then, you can start getting paid while you work your way up to getting a Multi-Engine Rating. This could all be done in about a year. After that, it is just a matter of continuing to work any flying or instructing job in order to accrue the remainder of the 1500 hours necessary for an ATP.
national average of flight time to pass FAA check-ride to get your PPL is not 40 (the minimum) its 75 hours, almost double the time and PRICE. Beware schools will try to convince you can pass on the minimums thus a lower price and that is why the number one reason people drop out of flight school is due to unexpected expenses and the drop out rate is over 50% Dont expect to be Johnny-on-the-spot
@@sumtingwong8768 - Yes, you are right. Beware of flight school overpromising and under delivering. One of the main reasons that the US National average to achieve your Private Pilot Certificate is 60-75 hours is because the majority of flight schools are Part 61 part-time flight schools. Most students attending those schools are waiting an extended period of time between each flight lesson. The key to cutting down on the number of hours you will need in order to get you Private is to take at least one, but no more than three flight lessons per week. Also, limit your flight lessons to two hours each. Any more time per flight lesson in overkill and counterproductive. Part 141 and Part 142 schools have set curriculums to achieve benchmarks at specific hours of flight. These are usually full-time schools where the curriculum is 5 days a week. The non-flight time is filled with academic studies and simulator time. In a perfect world, just go ahead and do a simultaneous Private-Instrument Certificate at 100 hours. A Private without an Instrument Rating is a hazard.
My son just moved up to 737 at a major. It isn't easy. Dont do it if you hate living half your live out of a small suitcase and waking up at 3am. A lot.
It’s about the money and providing. Those are just the small sacrifices that come with being a pilot. There’s a lot shittier things in careers that pay less. He’s blessed
@@chrisanthonyvela9907definitely not small sacrifices. I am always able to sleep on command because I'm always very tired when I crash into a hotel or home. It's miserable. Body clock's been a nightmare because I fly nighttime trips for an ACMI. I would still take it over a cubicle. Work stuff stays at work, home stuff stays at home. You get to go to some of the most unique places on Earth, flying some unique cargo that would make you question Newton's laws. Cargo flying can be a bit lonely. You're always alone in the middle of night. Walking through the terminal without anyone in sight, the rad frequency is quiet. To some people that's the solitude they wish for, but for me I love the chaos and noise.
Yall don't worry to much about the pay because you will be making A LOT and it will pay off your debt. Weather your in college or flight school loans go for about 50 to 100 dollars a month after you graduate. You get 6 months to Find a job and that when you'll pay little by little. Learn to manage your money and you will be fine ❤. If your in college try fasfa it will save you A TON. And if your in flight schools like ATP talk to them about loans and pay. You got this
A few corrections and clarifications need to be made. In the US: - You have to have a Student Pilot Certificate to apply for a Private Pilot Certificate. - You have to have a Private Pilot Certificate in any aircraft type to apply for a Commercial Pilot Certificate in any aircraft type. Even glider. It does not have to be the same type. - You only need a Student Pilot Certificate to apply for a Private Pilot Certificate in Multi-Engine Aircraft. - You are not required to have an Instrument Rating to get a Commercial Pilot Certificate. But, it will be a requirement of most employers. - You have to have a Commercial Pilot Certificate and an Instrument Rating in any type of aircraft to apply for an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate in any aircraft type. It does not have to be in the same type. Although, you will need a multi-engine time and a multi-engine ATP for most employers. - No Type Rating is needed to apply for any of these Certificates. Most employers are paying pilots to get their type rating when they are hired. Those that are not paying type rating costs are not airlines. - You do not need 250 hours of flight time for a Multi-Engine Rating. - You only need 40 flight hours for a Private Multi-Engine Certificate. Only 3 of those hours have to be in a multi-Engine aircraft. - You only need 250 flight hours for a Commercial Multi-Engine Certificate. Only 10 of those hours have to be in a multi-Engine aircraft. - A pilot applying for an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate has to have a minimum of 750 (military) to 1500 hours of flight time. None of it has to be Multi-Engine. Although, most airlines will require their own minimum Multi-Engine time. But, other employers will require less.
@@jayneel3137 - I am a private pilot that flies gliders, airplanes, and helicopters. The information that I posted can be easily found in Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations colloquially called the FAR/AIM. You are actually tested on the information when you take the written and oral examinations for a pilot certificate.
@@deanfowlkes hello bro plz suggest me i am from India and i want to do my cpl which country will be cheapest if we compare between USA, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia in USA is L3 harris and CAE is good schools ?
@@jayneel3137 - I do not have any experience with flight training outside of the USA and South Africa. Both seem to be good locations for flight training. As far as costs, there is more to look at besides the actual cost of training. Weather is very important. Poor weather will increase the amount of time it will take to get you CPL. Texas, Arizona, Florida, and parts of California are great locations to get the best flying weather. L3 Harris and CAE seem to be good companies. I think they are geared for and cater to more of the corporate clientele such as major airlines, governments, and charter companies.
I guess my next question would be how much more money would I have to spend out of pocket after being a flight instructor to build those 750-1,500 hours. Based off this video he made it sound like I’ll have to spend more money on training even once I’m with a regional airline or corporate airline.
becoming a pilot in the military is super competitive and not a lot of people can do like the civilian training =)) 2nd: Not everybody wanna stay in the military for 10 years. Stop being stupid.
ATPL at 1500hrs is only available from a part 141 school. Otherwise its 2k, but you'll get done faster in a part 61 anyway due to the 141 needing a 4 year degree
I live in Germany. I paid 75k for my training. Now I have a cpl ( frozen atpl) which I can convert when reaching 1500 hrs. But u can apply for the airlines right away. I have 210 hours now starting my first job on the Embraer 190. Monthly salary on average is 4000 euro after tax. I think that is a good system.
Here is a harder but cheaper way:join the US Air Force, sign a 10 year contract with the Air Force, they will train you and then the government will pay for your education, like college, flight school, and others (depends on years of service). You can write on your job application form that you have been in the Air Force before, being in the Air Force will increase your chance of getting hired if you write it on your resume because this means you had previous experience with piloting, and have preformed tasks much harder than that of training courses that normal applicators would have taken. Unrelated to this is also that serving in the air force could bring major benefits, such as no property tax and other good benefits.
Becoming a pilot is extremely expensive. All these licences that you have to obtain will run you thousands of dollars. Then you have to take lessons/technical courses while also paying for the plane rentals which are crazy. Some smaller trainee planes run for about $150 per hour
How much would flying in the military take off the costs I’m probably going to be a cargo pilot in the Swedish military so yea, I wanna fly in the civilian world too
It is worth noting the rules are different in Europe and the UK, you don't need 250 hours to get your multi engine rating you need 170 with at least 70 hours being pilot in command (in the UK). You also can get flying with an airline on a CPL (frozen ATPL) in Europe, so there isnt a need for the 1500 hours.
The insane thing about the industry offsetting so much expense onto the employee, the pilot, to het trained for the job, is that they would never do it for such a little return on investment. We're talking about forcing pilots to get hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to just be able to be hired for a job where they will be paid just enough that they would likely need a decade or longer to pay off the debt. That means that while they are paying off the debt, they are going to have a very difficult time living a comfortable life or growing their own finances. For a business, that would be considered a terrible move. Yet somehow we've gotten to the point where it's become commonaly accepted that people have to put themselves into massive debt to buy their way into a job where the company feels no obligation to pay for that debt, whipe reaping immense benefit from the training it gave. Add to this the extortion powers companies gain from all this. If they paid to train the staff, it would be in their financial best interest to hold onto the employee. When they don't, and there are only so many jobs for people with such training, they can take advantage by threatening to fire them and get someoje else. It won't effect them, because they hold zero financial obligation. Just another way corporate America has basically become the new mafia.
Better to go from ppl to ifr to commercial and then to cfi. If doing ifr first, you are only held to ppl standards when doing your ifr checkride. But if you get commercial first and then get instrument rating, you are held to commercial standards. Going the CFI route is good way to build time but also another way is to tow banners.
Ok ok there’s allot of programs that will cover the cost of allot of that due to the shortage of airline pilots and also make sure you get your privates before going to any flight school saves money and time
No one is going to pay for your flight training... The bonuses and such they were offering are nill these days. And they only cover a fraction. Most of your training is out of pocket. And that's okay.
@@Andromedon777 are you talking about the tuition program over at atp where you apply for a regional airline and they cover some of the cost of your schooling so long as you fly for them for 4-5 years?
I really want a solemn advice from someone who is a pilot or is on way to be pilot . But i don't know whom to ask . Anyone who can help me plzzzzz 🙏 . Becoming a pilot is my dream . But idk anything bout it and all i know is what i read on Google
Well I'm not a pilot, but God's will, I plan to go to the airforce for 4 years then leave and go to a public university doing my flight training there while having the GI bill from the airforce pay for everything. In order to get the full affect from the GI bill, you have to do at least 3 years of active duty in the air force. I don't want to be a fighter pilot so I don't have to worry about doing 10-12 years of commitment. Don't stress yourself out. I recommend talking to a recruiter and or getting an internship with somewhere like Textron aviation or Signature flight support. ☝️Last year I was an intern at Textron and now I'm an intern at Signature and boy have I learned a lot. Hope this helps. Just speak up and go after it because you'll get it and if you don't...Then God has something better for you.
$100,000 give or take because nobody passes on minimums I.e. you pay overage fees (get loans, IF YOU CAN QUALIFY) + living expenses while you go full-time + lost income from not working while you attend + major airlines HIGHLY recommend you have a bachelors degree, they say this for a reason so add that to the cost and its because they know you might be furloughed and out of work or if you get injured and cannot fly you still can provide a living.
Just go into the military and get your training that way. The training is hard but it's the best training and you get paid to do it. Plus it looks way better on the resume when you get out making it easy to fly commercially/private.
Close. -Private: 40 Hours total time (around 12-18k) -Instrument: to fly in low visibility (around 12-18k) -Commercial: is where you need 250 hours total time -Multi: do it after commercial so you dont have to do it as a commercial single then commercial multi -CFI: because its hard to get a job as a low time pilot -CFII: to teach instrument students For most it costs 80-120k depending on how fast you pick stuff up and how much time you put into studying
The type rating any company that hires you will pay for. And they usually will pay for your ATP training. You will have worked your way to build the hours from commercial/CFI/CFII/MEI to ATP hours so you're getting paid there. (Not much though)
It’s cheaper through Air Force or at least here in Britain and through airforce you start at a higher rank and get payed more however this will take much longer of minimum of 12-13 years just to be able to apply for a pulpit due to the minimum 12 years you must put into the raf
@@chayame21One of childhood friends got into the Naval Academy. I think to get into a service academy, you need to get really good grades, have a bunch of extracurriculars, and reach out to a local representative for a nomination. It’s very competitive, but doable.
@@chayame21Keep in mind that you can still become an Air Force pilot without going through the academy. Look into ROTC, which is where you go to a normal college while also doing some military training every week, and you can commission as an officer upon graduating. ROTC can pay for a large part if not all of your college education.
@@chayame21you don't need to go to the airforce academy to be a pilot. There in need of pilots these days. Just get a bachelors with good grades and go to OTS and your probably good.
Just a friendly reminder the FAA now asks you about your VA disability rating for you veterans. They 100% will cross reference your medical records now through the VA and look for any medical conditions you didn’t disclose during your medical examination.
I’ve never had to pay out of pocket for a type rating. Your employer will always cover that (unless you’re a contract pilot). If not, keep looking. That’s a bad omen.
A lot of this isnt necessary, as you go through a mpl cadetship with an airline where it msy be partially funded, this lisence csn be obtained at a school like CAE or l3 but the price is the same, but atpl is not necessary
I've researched becoming a pilot, but, fear of loosing medical certification..............to spend five figures, then have to stop flying because of medical reasons, that is huge gamble. I already have minor health issues, that don't by themselves stop me from getting medical certifcate, but, if it gets worse in the future.....
I plan on using my military gi bill to pay for my schooling and housing cost and living expense to go full time in flight school this might be my career when I get out the military at 22 is there anything I can do now to get ready for it I’m 20 rn
GI Bill most likely won’t cover all of it. How much are they giving these days for GI? You could get your private knocked out before you get out.. that would speed things up.
@@harveymanfrantinsingin7373 if I go to a public 4 year I get everything paid for But if I got to a vocational school it’s faster but the gi bill won’t cover all of it and I’ll need my privet pilot license
yeah i know right, they will just pick you up and pay the whole training for you, just kidding but they will reimburse you after YOU pay it all yourself, still not bad.
I kind of lucked out on a PPl. In the 80's/90's just out of college I worked at a small FBO as a mechanic for basically minimum wage, but I got instruction and pretty much unlimited flying time for just the cost of the gas used. At the time it seems nice, but looking back on it, it was quite the benefit.
From o to hero it's going to cost you between 200 to 250k. You'll then qualify for the basic ATP position, paying around 17k a year In 1996. Worth it??? Not unless you got your training for free or via the military
you have to either get into an academy or pay your own way through college and commission ROTC or OTS then your given a shot at flying and you will be smoked by the guys with 1000 -1500 flight time from being instructors in the civilian world and end up getting drones which dont even require a degree if you chose that to begin with lol people get f'ed so hard when they try to get pilot training from the military and then got to the airlines, the military hates people who try that and its a bad strat to begin with. NO, many, many people simply cannot and should not become pilots, thats the hard truth, just like pro athletes.
Ok well this guy did not do his research First you can take flight lessons before getting a student pilot certificate in fact almost everybody does Second your instrument rating is required before your commercial license. And third people who have there instructor license and spend all day everyday at the airport/out flying it still takes a good 3-4 years to get to 1500 hours
@@TraineePilotJess when you have your ppl you have loads of options. You could do integrated or modular. And also you will not need to repeat your ppl.
Or….go in the military where it costs you nothing. And why would you have to pay for a type-rating? That’s ridiculous. Any reputable airline trains you on the aircraft unless you fly for a sketchy airline and you’d be crazy enough to pay for what your employer should.
Not sufficiently. Your GI Bill only applies to college aviation programs typically, or part 141. And it covers only a fraction of the cost. Plus, those programs are very expensive compared to part 61, and takes about 2-2.5 times longer. Look at ATP. Or other part 61 schools. You can get check ride and written exams reimbursed with gi bill
@@JohnRomel777This is going to be a very long reply, but contains a lot of information, so please bear with me. To join an airline as a first officer, you need to be a commercial pilot with an instrument rating, and multi engine rating. The requirements for each country often vary, and in Europe, pilots often get airline jobs with as little as around 300 hours, but in the United States, you need 1500 hours of flight time, unless you are eligible for the restricted ATP reduced hours if you went through an approved four year college part 141 flight school, in which case you would need just 1000 hours. 1250 if you go to an approved community college 141 flight program. You also have to be at least 21 years old, and hold a first class medical certificate. Once you meet these requirements, you can get hired by a regional airline, after which the airline will sponsor your training for the ATP license, and your type rating. Once you pass those steps, you do your Initial operating experience, which is essentially you flying a few trips as an airline pilot under the observation of an examiner known as a line check airman. Once you complete this final step, you can begin flying the line as an airline pilot.
@@JohnRomel777In the United States, and a lot of other countries too I’d imagine, airlines normally pay the type rating, so you will not have to worry about that cost.
I don't care how expensive and hard it will be but my dream will become true, I have spoken.
Same i really wanna be a pilot but my parents dont support it yet good luck 🤞
you can do it optimus prime
It’s already Done
@@GamingPigSFSwhy don't they support it
I don’t really what to do 😢 it’s kinda disappointing to know that your dream job will never be in your hands
Yes I’m 27 yrs old just decided that I want to start this process I’m very exited about it I know it’s going to be long and amazing journey
I am 17 need 150k before 23 and then I will start it
@@mrnothere9542 or go to Seneca. 4 year program, with basically a 100% hire rate and about 80-90k in total
just join the military for 2-4 years than use the Gi bill for a part 141 and your set. If you're American that is.@@mrnothere9542
@mrnothere9542 lol might as well go for it! Im 29 and time doesn't wait! 😅
Im a semi driver trust me, that experience counts and rhe older you get means less time!
I might just go for it myself, hopefully its not sht pay afterwards 😂
Yoooo me too I’m 27 just started let’s gooo brother 🙏 see you in the sky
If one is hired as an FO by an airline you won’t pay for a type rating in the equipment they use.
exactly lol
That’s not always true
Ryanair makes you pay 30k to get Rated :D
You need to pay it yourself if you are in budget EU airlines, in the form of paycheck deduction.
To be honest it depends on the airline. Some will pay the whole cost of type rating for you and will bond you with them for a period of time. Some will ask you to cover 50% and then pay the rest in instalments. Airlines offer varying financing to accommodate their pilots. You just have to worry about acing your training and exams, rest will fall in its place. Happy Flying…
Most full time Part 61 and 141 schools will have you average 2 flight lessons a week. Each flight lesson should average 2 hours of flight time. No flight lesson except for your cross country flights should ever be three hours or more. Any lesson more than two hours becomes counterproductive. You reach a level of information saturation and a point of negative returns at or before the two hour mark.
With that in mind, your flight training curriculum should consist of 20 flights. The FAA only requires 10 of those flights (written in the regs as 20 hours) to be with an instructor. Which means that you should be able to complete the 40 hours in 10 weeks. Even if half of the time, your area is hit with adverse weather, that would mean you could finish your Private Pilot Certificate in 4-5 months.
If you spend the remainder of the year building time and getting your Instrument Rating, you can accumulate the 250 flight hours necessary to get your Commercial and Instructor Rating. Then, you can start getting paid while you work your way up to getting a Multi-Engine Rating. This could all be done in about a year. After that, it is just a matter of continuing to work any flying or instructing job in order to accrue the remainder of the 1500 hours necessary for an ATP.
national average of flight time to pass FAA check-ride to get your PPL is not 40 (the minimum) its 75 hours, almost double the time and PRICE. Beware schools will try to convince you can pass on the minimums thus a lower price and that is why the number one reason people drop out of flight school is due to unexpected expenses and the drop out rate is over 50%
Dont expect to be Johnny-on-the-spot
@@sumtingwong8768 - Yes, you are right. Beware of flight school overpromising and under delivering.
One of the main reasons that the US National average to achieve your Private Pilot Certificate is 60-75 hours is because the majority of flight schools are Part 61 part-time flight schools. Most students attending those schools are waiting an extended period of time between each flight lesson.
The key to cutting down on the number of hours you will need in order to get you Private is to take at least one, but no more than three flight lessons per week. Also, limit your flight lessons to two hours each. Any more time per flight lesson in overkill and counterproductive.
Part 141 and Part 142 schools have set curriculums to achieve benchmarks at specific hours of flight. These are usually full-time schools where the curriculum is 5 days a week. The non-flight time is filled with academic studies and simulator time.
In a perfect world, just go ahead and do a simultaneous Private-Instrument Certificate at 100 hours. A Private without an Instrument Rating is a hazard.
My son just moved up to 737 at a major. It isn't easy. Dont do it if you hate living half your live out of a small suitcase and waking up at 3am. A lot.
It’s about the money and providing. Those are just the small sacrifices that come with being a pilot. There’s a lot shittier things in careers that pay less. He’s blessed
Sounds like the dream life
@@chrisanthonyvela9907definitely not small sacrifices. I am always able to sleep on command because I'm always very tired when I crash into a hotel or home. It's miserable. Body clock's been a nightmare because I fly nighttime trips for an ACMI.
I would still take it over a cubicle. Work stuff stays at work, home stuff stays at home. You get to go to some of the most unique places on Earth, flying some unique cargo that would make you question Newton's laws.
Cargo flying can be a bit lonely. You're always alone in the middle of night. Walking through the terminal without anyone in sight, the rad frequency is quiet. To some people that's the solitude they wish for, but for me I love the chaos and noise.
@@chrisanthonyvela9907 No one becomes a pilot for money or to provide.
@@aerofiles5044 what would be a drastically better option for money? Pilots make great money for the amount of time it takes
No matter how long it takes, or how much debt I will be in, I will become a pilot dunces it’s been my dream and determination
Good luck! Had a friend help me with this video who just finished all of his training. It can be done and will be done I'm sure 💪
You can do it, just get into the airforce and transfer to the public sector
@@Communistthurso That’s what I thought I would do thanks
Pilots don’t usually pay for type ratings. Employers pay that bill.
You may have to pay for your first one but subsequent ones should be paid for by the airline
Yall don't worry to much about the pay because you will be making A LOT and it will pay off your debt. Weather your in college or flight school loans go for about 50 to 100 dollars a month after you graduate. You get 6 months to Find a job and that when you'll pay little by little. Learn to manage your money and you will be fine ❤. If your in college try fasfa it will save you A TON. And if your in flight schools like ATP talk to them about loans and pay. You got this
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@@ChapatiMan 😐
Thank you so much man
What’s atp?
Unless you live in california where 60% of your income gets taxed
I don’t know if this is US or not, but…you don’t need 250 hours for multi-engine commercial. You need 250 for the commercial in general.
Still looks good on any resume. Shows that you're capable real damn good with time management.
A few corrections and clarifications need to be made. In the US:
- You have to have a Student Pilot Certificate to apply for a Private Pilot Certificate.
- You have to have a Private Pilot Certificate in any aircraft type to apply for a Commercial Pilot Certificate in any aircraft type. Even glider. It does not have to be the same type.
- You only need a Student Pilot Certificate to apply for a Private Pilot Certificate in Multi-Engine Aircraft.
- You are not required to have an Instrument Rating to get a Commercial Pilot Certificate. But, it will be a requirement of most employers.
- You have to have a Commercial Pilot Certificate and an Instrument Rating in any type of aircraft to apply for an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate in any aircraft type. It does not have to be in the same type. Although, you will need a multi-engine time and a multi-engine ATP for most employers.
- No Type Rating is needed to apply for any of these Certificates. Most employers are paying pilots to get their type rating when they are hired. Those that are not paying type rating costs are not airlines.
- You do not need 250 hours of flight time for a Multi-Engine Rating.
- You only need 40 flight hours for a Private Multi-Engine Certificate. Only 3 of those hours have to be in a multi-Engine aircraft.
- You only need 250 flight hours for a Commercial Multi-Engine Certificate. Only 10 of those hours have to be in a multi-Engine aircraft.
- A pilot applying for an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate has to have a minimum of 750 (military) to 1500 hours of flight time. None of it has to be Multi-Engine. Although, most airlines will require their own minimum Multi-Engine time. But, other employers will require less.
bro are you also a pilot ? and if yes then which airline ?
@@jayneel3137 - I am a private pilot that flies gliders, airplanes, and helicopters. The information that I posted can be easily found in Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations colloquially called the FAR/AIM. You are actually tested on the information when you take the written and oral examinations for a pilot certificate.
@@deanfowlkes hello bro plz suggest me i am from India and i want to do my cpl which country will be cheapest if we compare between USA, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia
in USA is L3 harris and CAE is good schools ?
@@jayneel3137 - I do not have any experience with flight training outside of the USA and South Africa. Both seem to be good locations for flight training.
As far as costs, there is more to look at besides the actual cost of training. Weather is very important. Poor weather will increase the amount of time it will take to get you CPL. Texas, Arizona, Florida, and parts of California are great locations to get the best flying weather.
L3 Harris and CAE seem to be good companies. I think they are geared for and cater to more of the corporate clientele such as major airlines, governments, and charter companies.
I guess my next question would be how much more money would I have to spend out of pocket after being a flight instructor to build those 750-1,500 hours. Based off this video he made it sound like I’ll have to spend more money on training even once I’m with a regional airline or corporate airline.
Here in the US you don’t have to worry about the cost of your type rating because the airline will pay for it
Lucky..
… or become a pilot with the US Air Force or US Navy. Once you’ve completed your service obligation, you’re ahead of the game - debt-free.😁👍🏼
And 20 years behind the seniority curve
becoming a pilot in the military is super competitive and not a lot of people can do like the civilian training =))
2nd: Not everybody wanna stay in the military for 10 years.
Stop being stupid.
@@cronk6879 wdym?
True… but, it’s an 8 to 10 year contract usually
Im considering doing this
So much money. But I am determined to do my best and fly the airline of my dreams
Just got my ppl this week
Congrats :D
Congratulations!! Which flying school?
@@Pilot.sakshi Greyhawk flight training in Dallas texas at KTKI
@@garretttomasek3435Great!! Can you pls tell me the total cost for the training?
@@Pilot.sakshi I don’t know the exact number but I would put the number somewhere around 20k. And I got about 68 hours of flight time.
I don't care on how hard is it to be a pilot i still want to become a pilot
No matter how hard or sketchy the journey will be, i will not give up on my dream
Theres no other way than forward
ATPL at 1500hrs is only available from a part 141 school. Otherwise its 2k, but you'll get done faster in a part 61 anyway due to the 141 needing a 4 year degree
I've heard that for being a first officer in India you just need CPL and ATPL for being a captain.
Oh my god i thought the girl in the beginning was speaking
😄 same here!
The girl in the beginning is Sara Maika, who has a youtube channel related to aviation.
Thats Sara Maika in the beginning
I live in Germany. I paid 75k for my training. Now I have a cpl ( frozen atpl) which I can convert when reaching 1500 hrs. But u can apply for the airlines right away. I have 210 hours now starting my first job on the Embraer 190. Monthly salary on average is 4000 euro after tax. I think that is a good system.
Good for you
Here is a harder but cheaper way:join the US Air Force, sign a 10 year contract with the Air Force, they will train you and then the government will pay for your education, like college, flight school, and others (depends on years of service). You can write on your job application form that you have been in the Air Force before, being in the Air Force will increase your chance of getting hired if you write it on your resume because this means you had previous experience with piloting, and have preformed tasks much harder than that of training courses that normal applicators would have taken. Unrelated to this is also that serving in the air force could bring major benefits, such as no property tax and other good benefits.
Cost depends on country
But you don’t need a college degree anymore. Saves 100,000 in loans.
but i bet any big airline if 2 candidates are the same are going for the one with a degree than the one without
Becoming a pilot is extremely expensive. All these licences that you have to obtain will run you thousands of dollars. Then you have to take lessons/technical courses while also paying for the plane rentals which are crazy. Some smaller trainee planes run for about $150 per hour
That's why going through AF is the most viable option for many. Much cooler too
If you fly with Indonesian airlines, you don’t even need a license 😂
It is still is very expensive
How much would flying in the military take off the costs
I’m probably going to be a cargo pilot in the Swedish military so yea, I wanna fly in the civilian world too
It is worth noting the rules are different in Europe and the UK, you don't need 250 hours to get your multi engine rating you need 170 with at least 70 hours being pilot in command (in the UK). You also can get flying with an airline on a CPL (frozen ATPL) in Europe, so there isnt a need for the 1500 hours.
16yo right here and I am aiming to become a pilot what should I do I really wanna fly high in a plane
The majors intake 32 with commercial licenses at a time. Nearly half wash out before getting to the simulators.
nobody is still making you pay for a type rating at the 121 level
Also you don't need to apply for a student pilot license. You go straight into flight training without a license
The insane thing about the industry offsetting so much expense onto the employee, the pilot, to het trained for the job, is that they would never do it for such a little return on investment.
We're talking about forcing pilots to get hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to just be able to be hired for a job where they will be paid just enough that they would likely need a decade or longer to pay off the debt.
That means that while they are paying off the debt, they are going to have a very difficult time living a comfortable life or growing their own finances.
For a business, that would be considered a terrible move. Yet somehow we've gotten to the point where it's become commonaly accepted that people have to put themselves into massive debt to buy their way into a job where the company feels no obligation to pay for that debt, whipe reaping immense benefit from the training it gave. Add to this the extortion powers companies gain from all this. If they paid to train the staff, it would be in their financial best interest to hold onto the employee. When they don't, and there are only so many jobs for people with such training, they can take advantage by threatening to fire them and get someoje else. It won't effect them, because they hold zero financial obligation.
Just another way corporate America has basically become the new mafia.
Better to go from ppl to ifr to commercial and then to cfi. If doing ifr first, you are only held to ppl standards when doing your ifr checkride. But if you get commercial first and then get instrument rating, you are held to commercial standards. Going the CFI route is good way to build time but also another way is to tow banners.
The 1500hrs rule only applies to the USA not Europe or other countries
Ok ok there’s allot of programs that will cover the cost of allot of that due to the shortage of airline pilots and also make sure you get your privates before going to any flight school saves money and time
No one is going to pay for your flight training...
The bonuses and such they were offering are nill these days. And they only cover a fraction.
Most of your training is out of pocket. And that's okay.
@@Andromedon777 are you talking about the tuition program over at atp where you apply for a regional airline and they cover some of the cost of your schooling so long as you fly for them for 4-5 years?
@@trevornewton9687 that's an example. But, some airlines were offering bonuses and such beyond atp. But yes, that is my primary example
You don’t pay for your type ratings these days or so I’ve heard. They just decrease first year pay I think. I’m getting my private at a university
I really want a solemn advice from someone who is a pilot or is on way to be pilot . But i don't know whom to ask . Anyone who can help me plzzzzz 🙏 . Becoming a pilot is my dream . But idk anything bout it and all i know is what i read on Google
Well I'm not a pilot, but God's will, I plan to go to the airforce for 4 years then leave and go to a public university doing my flight training there while having the GI bill from the airforce pay for everything.
In order to get the full affect from the GI bill, you have to do at least 3 years of active duty in the air force.
I don't want to be a fighter pilot so I don't have to worry about doing 10-12 years of commitment.
Don't stress yourself out. I recommend talking to a recruiter and or getting an internship with somewhere like Textron aviation or Signature flight support.
☝️Last year I was an intern at Textron and now I'm an intern at Signature and boy have I learned a lot.
Hope this helps. Just speak up and go after it because you'll get it and if you don't...Then God has something better for you.
$100,000 give or take because nobody passes on minimums I.e. you pay overage fees (get loans, IF YOU CAN QUALIFY)
+ living expenses while you go full-time
+ lost income from not working while you attend
+ major airlines HIGHLY recommend you have a bachelors degree, they say this for a reason so add that to the cost and its because they know you might be furloughed and out of work or if you get injured and cannot fly you still can provide a living.
due to pilot shortage, 99% of all airlines dont require 4 years degree anymore for the last 2 years,
What cave you are living ?
Just go into the military and get your training that way. The training is hard but it's the best training and you get paid to do it. Plus it looks way better on the resume when you get out making it easy to fly commercially/private.
The pain and hard work will pay off when I achieve my dream.
Cool your showing my flight schools planes (Lift)
Close.
-Private: 40 Hours total time (around 12-18k)
-Instrument: to fly in low visibility (around 12-18k)
-Commercial: is where you need 250 hours total time
-Multi: do it after commercial so you dont have to do it as a commercial single then commercial multi
-CFI: because its hard to get a job as a low time pilot
-CFII: to teach instrument students
For most it costs 80-120k depending on how fast you pick stuff up and how much time you put into studying
The type rating any company that hires you will pay for. And they usually will pay for your ATP training. You will have worked your way to build the hours from commercial/CFI/CFII/MEI to ATP hours so you're getting paid there. (Not much though)
You don’t apply for a student pilots license if you are in the usa. You just start flight lessons with a certified instructor
It’s cheaper through Air Force or at least here in Britain and through airforce you start at a higher rank and get payed more however this will take much longer of minimum of 12-13 years just to be able to apply for a pulpit due to the minimum 12 years you must put into the raf
there is also an age minimum for most airlines like delta is 23 last time i checked and some also require a 1000 hours of Jet flight hours
Just join the Air Force with a bachelors degree and you’re set to be a pilot.
I thought of joining Air Force Academy, but they're like getting into harvard.
@@chayame21One of childhood friends got into the Naval Academy. I think to get into a service academy, you need to get really good grades, have a bunch of extracurriculars, and reach out to a local representative for a nomination. It’s very competitive, but doable.
@@chayame21Keep in mind that you can still become an Air Force pilot without going through the academy. Look into ROTC, which is where you go to a normal college while also doing some military training every week, and you can commission as an officer upon graduating. ROTC can pay for a large part if not all of your college education.
@@chayame21you don't need to go to the airforce academy to be a pilot. There in need of pilots these days. Just get a bachelors with good grades and go to OTS and your probably good.
Agree
You said ATP could get you FO in any airline, in the USA you need to start with regionals to build turbine time
Just a friendly reminder the FAA now asks you about your VA disability rating for you veterans. They 100% will cross reference your medical records now through the VA and look for any medical conditions you didn’t disclose during your medical examination.
After all that is done, about what would you be spending if you want to take a trip from Florida to New York and fly yourself
Don't waste time watching videos that pose questions they don't answer. Back to the grind!
I started my PPL in Jan of 2023 at 14.
Yo, I saw airline buff & RUclipsr Sam Chui
I will become a pilot
I’ve never had to pay out of pocket for a type rating. Your employer will always cover that (unless you’re a contract pilot). If not, keep looking. That’s a bad omen.
Also this is American specific. Not European or elsewhere
Can you become a first officer with a frozen ATPL? I was reading a while ago that you needed 1500 hours to become a captain, not a FO
Don't forget your complex and high performance
A lot of this isnt necessary, as you go through a mpl cadetship with an airline where it msy be partially funded, this lisence csn be obtained at a school like CAE or l3 but the price is the same, but atpl is not necessary
Honest question, how the Hell do pilots get good rest
tbh i think most of them only have about 1 week rest per month but in return you get to retire early ig
Doesn’t obtaining the ATPL allow you to become a captain?
Unless your rich or well connected the military is a very good way to get your traning and certs
Yes if u have the Money, it will be good in the long Run
Is that Delta Qualiflight’s cherokee?
I've researched becoming a pilot, but, fear of loosing medical certification..............to spend five figures, then have to stop flying because of medical reasons, that is huge gamble. I already have minor health issues, that don't by themselves stop me from getting medical certifcate, but, if it gets worse in the future.....
There’s always a big risk.
In India, the cost is a printer cartridge price.
Wait you have to pay I thought you need license only 😤but that ok because I’m not stopping to become a pilot
Is there a “ science student background“ requirement
24 months is absolutely not typical…
Is ffa and mssa medical certification the same thing?
Sounds reasonable
Your type rating is normally on your future employer
1500 hours is crazy
You must buy exclusive luggage. 😊
Then they wonder why theres a shortage 😂 "the price duh"
I plan on using my military gi bill to pay for my schooling and housing cost and living expense to go full time in flight school this might be my career when I get out the military at 22 is there anything I can do now to get ready for it I’m 20 rn
GI Bill most likely won’t cover all of it. How much are they giving these days for GI?
You could get your private knocked out before you get out.. that would speed things up.
@@harveymanfrantinsingin7373 if I go to a public 4 year I get everything paid for
But if I got to a vocational school it’s faster but the gi bill won’t cover all of it and I’ll need my privet pilot license
@@sonny5982 gotchya. Well, nothing wrong with getting a free degree! Will they pay for check rides as well?
Today....all you need is a pulse!🤣
yeah i know right, they will just pick you up and pay the whole training for you, just kidding but they will reimburse you after YOU pay it all yourself, still not bad.
@@sumtingwong8768Having boobies is a plus as well. Opens a lot of doors.
@@sumtingwong8768 wdym??
Wdym?
It's only 1.5k hours in america😂😂
I don’t care how much money it costs, how much debt I will be in, or how long it will take. My dream job is to be a pilot and that’s final
I got my ppl for free. The Air Force is always an option
Different rules for different country's, not all the same check in ur country for ur rules and cost
damn fast. 2 years?
I kind of lucked out on a PPl. In the 80's/90's just out of college I worked at a small FBO as a mechanic for basically minimum wage, but I got instruction and pretty much unlimited flying time for just the cost of the gas used. At the time it seems nice, but looking back on it, it was quite the benefit.
From o to hero it's going to cost you between 200 to 250k. You'll then qualify for the basic ATP position, paying around 17k a year In 1996. Worth it??? Not unless you got your training for free or via the military
you have to either get into an academy or pay your own way through college and commission ROTC or OTS then your given a shot at flying and you will be smoked by the guys with 1000 -1500 flight time from being instructors in the civilian world and end up getting drones which dont even require a degree if you chose that to begin with lol people get f'ed so hard when they try to get pilot training from the military and then got to the airlines, the military hates people who try that and its a bad strat to begin with. NO, many, many people simply cannot and should not become pilots, thats the hard truth, just like pro athletes.
Why is it so expensive?!😭
Its about 97k$ usd
Ok well this guy did not do his research
First you can take flight lessons before getting a student pilot certificate in fact almost everybody does
Second your instrument rating is required before your commercial license.
And third people who have there instructor license and spend all day everyday at the airport/out flying it still takes a good 3-4 years to get to 1500 hours
He just said what is required. He didn't say the total cost
I wanna got to Emirates Flight Academy
Most airlines now only require 5 GCSE’s or more to become a CP, so you don’t need to go to college anymore.
If you do it modular you don’t need any qualifications. It’s all about money and hours.
@@samdempsey465 I already will have a ppl so would integrated be better?
@@TraineePilotJess It’s up to you to be honest. If you feel like you want to commit all your time to it then I would say go integrated.
@@samdempsey465 As I’m doing my PPL and I will have completed it would that mean I could still do Modular and I wouldn’t have to repeat the training?
@@TraineePilotJess when you have your ppl you have loads of options. You could do integrated or modular. And also you will not need to repeat your ppl.
If you don’t have excellent vision don’t bother…I’m a private pilot who couldn’t even be a flight attendant with delta because my vision wasn’t 20/20
Glasses are a thing
I will go BANKRUPT to become an airline pilot gladly
Or….go in the military where it costs you nothing. And why would you have to pay for a type-rating? That’s ridiculous. Any reputable airline trains you on the aircraft unless you fly for a sketchy airline and you’d be crazy enough to pay for what your employer should.
Is it old to start learning PPL at 37 then become an airline pilot?
Why do you want to become a pilot?
I wish I never watched this😂,because now my dream is slowly fading away now
But where do ppl get the money to do this?
Loans, working full time and saving money, family member with a lot of money, scholarships.
Can I use my gi bill for any of this?
Not sufficiently.
Your GI Bill only applies to college aviation programs typically, or part 141. And it covers only a fraction of the cost. Plus, those programs are very expensive compared to part 61, and takes about 2-2.5 times longer.
Look at ATP. Or other part 61 schools.
You can get check ride and written exams reimbursed with gi bill
Note your don’t pay for your training when hired
Aka expensive as hell 😂
Military is free
I’m pretty sure airlines pay for type ratings.
How sure are you? I'm worried about the additional cost of doing my type rating. What's the eligibility to join an airline as a FO?
@@JohnRomel777This is going to be a very long reply, but contains a lot of information, so please bear with me. To join an airline as a first officer, you need to be a commercial pilot with an instrument rating, and multi engine rating. The requirements for each country often vary, and in Europe, pilots often get airline jobs with as little as around 300 hours, but in the United States, you need 1500 hours of flight time, unless you are eligible for the restricted ATP reduced hours if you went through an approved four year college part 141 flight school, in which case you would need just 1000 hours. 1250 if you go to an approved community college 141 flight program. You also have to be at least 21 years old, and hold a first class medical certificate. Once you meet these requirements, you can get hired by a regional airline, after which the airline will sponsor your training for the ATP license, and your type rating. Once you pass those steps, you do your Initial operating experience, which is essentially you flying a few trips as an airline pilot under the observation of an examiner known as a line check airman. Once you complete this final step, you can begin flying the line as an airline pilot.
@@JohnRomel777In the United States, and a lot of other countries too I’d imagine, airlines normally pay the type rating, so you will not have to worry about that cost.
St least I'm not gay
Why don't you just go to the military and get your lisence there
Yeah, with a low paying job in fast food, that goal would never be possible unless you live in your car😂.