Thank you Dr. Doug!I have been on Prolia for 21/2 years and told my doctor I wanted to stop as all the info out there was terrifying for bone fractures and side effects when coming off of it. I have started a weight lighting, weight bearing, and supplement routine. K2, Vit.D and hydrolyzed collagen Protein. I am not due for my next shot til Aug.(which I am not taking) so I have started this routine in advance to avoid any potential risks that may occur. Honestly, just in 2 weeks I feel stronger ! I am 61 years old and I hope to enjoy this time doing things to keep me active, healthy and stronger. My new grandson, has also been a huge motivator for me. ❤️. Thank you for easing my overactive worried mind about this dangerous drug. All the best to you .
Thank you so much for this excellent, super informative explanation. I stopped Prolia 2 years ago (after 10 years!) and don’t want to start any other drugs for now (much to my doctor’s dismay). I’ve worked with a trainer, dietician and did a ton of research but this made me feel like I’ve definitely made the right decision. Lots of major life changes, although I was a pretty healthy 71 year old, and expect to continue to improve my bones and health. Thank you again!!!
Hi Debbie, I am wondering if you suffered any bone fractures after 10 years? So scary what doctors and pharmaceutical companies tell a person when wanting to quit . Thank you in advance
@@paulinepaetzy857 I have not had any fractures but doing a lot of proactive steps like weight lifting, resistance training, supplements and diet changes. Also being very careful with balance, not twisting or rounding my back, etc. but staying active. Time will tell! My very best to you.
@@Debbiedo28 I think you made the right choice. I will stand by the same logic as quit all bone drugs eight yrs ago. These drugs are worse for me overall and so far doing okay.
@@Debbiedo28 Thanks for sharing! I am still on Prolia (about 7 years). When I started it, I guess it was a relatively new drug and my rheumatologist didn't know about the rebound effect. I would be too chicken to quit cold turkey, even if I was taking supplements (I am) and doing exercise (I do when I can, but life gets in the way...). It seems like Reclast after stopping Prolia is a safe choice, and I suppose I could stop Reclast after that. It's hard to find a doctor who knows about this. Thanks again for sharing, and good luck keeping your bones strong!
You just described me a month ago--totally stressed out over stopping Prolia after 4.5 years. I've been all over your comment sections, and I'm sure I lost some bone over all that stress. Now a full service patient, just starting up, I'm very hopeful that I'll get off this bone metabolism poison successfully. But it's not just about stopping it and preventing catastrophe--it's about replacing it with a really solid program afterward, and that's already in the works. Thank you for all you do! Even after watching most of your videos, I still learn a lot in the weekly Q&A on Wednesdays, and have been watching the older ones too. I tell everyone I know--and even many I don't know--about you. 😁 --Diane K Miller
Hi Diane! Thank you so much for sharing this, I greatly appreciate your support. I am so glad to hear that these videos and the Q&A sessions are helpful for you!
My PCP, didn't even ask me, just pressured me to take Prolia, "Go down the hall and get a blood test, then we are going to start you on Prolia". I did go down the hall and out the door. When I got home, I read the pamphlet on Prolia from the manufacturer. When I went back to the PCP and asked her if she read the pamphlet, she hadn't. I told her there was a 5% chance of jaw necrosis considering underlying jaw and dental issues. She said that 5% is nothing, so I told her I don't feel lucky, if she does, take it herself. Then I found another PCP.
By the way, I was never asked anything about life style or supplements. I am careful what I put in my body. I walk uphill five time a week dragging golf clubs and trotting when I can. It's been four years since I was diagnosed with osteoporosis, and I am learning everything I can about strengthening my bones. I just subscribed to your channel. You are plain spoken, brief and knowledgeable. Thank you and I plan to look at the videos previous to this one.
@@reelsonwheels2128 The nerve! 5% is nothing? O% is nothing. And they do not tell you a word about the withdrawal effects. I hope you're feeling better now.
I had two injections… switched Rheumatologists and my new Dr recommended it and after doing research, I decided to go the natural route, HRT and weight bearing exercises and supplements. I told her I would not being getting anymore injections and she said “ so you are refusing treatment?” I said yes and she told me it’s safe, I have my mom getting these injections! So what! I will not be putting that poison in my body anymore. My other Drs support my decision.
Good for you. Do your due diligence before putting any drugs in your body. Listen if you're still walking and bending whats the alternative? YOU get on this poison and your quality of life can decrease.
I had a bad reaction.I am in the hospital right now from a bronchitis, shortness of breath, temperature spike, drop in oxygen saturation, ended with opportunistic infection. Body and muscles pains and rib cages pains.Not for me
This happened to me also, I started wheezing really bad. Took some herbs that I had, next day no wheezing but I still we to the doctor, did chest X-ray and listened to my chest heard nothing. This is my first injection, I will not get another.
That’s me now, I had the Prolia injection in September this year 2024, today I am watching this is 12/5/2024. My quality of life has diminished greatly because of terrible side effects, I will not be getting another😢
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I fractured my femur in April 2015 and my bone had regenerated sufficiently in October 2016 to remove the plate and screws which had damaged my ITB (Iliotibial band). Having been on Prolia following on from Actonil, all up about 12 years. I now have to have all but 6 teeth removed as they have rotted from the inside out. I had been spending a fortune at a Dentist for surface repairs. It was only this year of going to a University Dental Clinic I was told my teeth were rotten on the inside as well. So please pay attention to your teeth. It wasn't until two molars fractured down to the gum line I knew something was wrong.I also had bone fractures both sides of starting injections. It was a case of starting therapy due to fractures but I still suffered fractures while on the injections.
Well, I have been on 'this" since the Osteoporosis clinic started at the Hospitals in Copenhagen almost 15 years ago. I even do not remember the names of the medicine and tablets, I started with til WE ended with the PROLIA. Well, during the Corona period, I was not able to go out, to visit doctors, to get a prescription of the drug/Prolia, since I was not home in Denmark, but on the Canary Isles, unable to do anything about getting the injection. So, in almost half a year, I had to stop unwillingly... Being in despair, I looked for help on the Internet, found a group on FaceBook and got my life's shock! Reading all I could find about the side effects of the drug. But it was nothing compared to the confrontation of my GP and all the unwillingness of the health system in Copenhagen. As a result, I still go on with the Prolia, since I do not know if it is advisable to stop it without controlling the results under a specialist watch. How am I supposed to stop after all these years without being supervised??!
I am being pressured significantly by my endocrinologist and my rheumatologist. I have read so much and it's not rocket science to see how questionable it is taking these drugs. I'm 62, and I want to take natural supplements to help with my osteoporosis.
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Thank you! I finally got the information on Prolia I was looking for. I still want to take a year to try increasing bone on my own. Heel drops and foot stomping are very interesting to me. I already tap dance so I could do dropping and stomping to the tapping music without my tap shoes. I’m still figuring out my diet to work for my kidney disease and bones. I’m on it! Thanks again!
While on long term Actonil followed by Prolia I started taking 5,000iu of Vitamin D3 in 2020. Taking my calicium level from approximately 75 nmol/L to 122 nmol/L in November 2023. I have only become aware of requiring vitamin K2 which I have been taking this year. I fractured my wrist in 1997, a compression fracture of my T12 and prolapsed lumbar vertebrae in 2005. Approximately I started Actonil in 2011 then my Dr transferred me to Prolia after about three years. In 2015, I fractured my Distal Femur, however I had bilateral total knee replacements in 2000. NOW I need all but six teeth removed as they have become rotten from the inside out, according to dental x-rays. So much for strengthening my bones when so much dental damage has been done.
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Too late for me as I’ve been on Prolia for 3 years now… I’m afraid to stop … I’m 62 & moderate fracture risk as per my bone density scores.. I was a high fracture risk level …& im on HRT, TRT
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I have been on prolia now for about 5-6 years. Prior was on actonal, fosamax, because of osteoporosis from several fractures. Breast cancer in 2015. Did the chemo for 4 months, then 3 years of chemo pills. My dexascan showed issues and i was put on prolia, warned about jaw issues, last scan advised to continue prolia…no major side effects, do have sensitivity in gums. Will be speaking to my dentist. He is aware of prolia issues and necrosis. I feel compelled to continue prolia till advised against. I do chair exercises and weight training with arms 3x’s a week . 2lbs so far. Would like to learn more and stay active awhile longer. Current age 73.
Thank you for sharing your experience! It’s clear you’ve been managing your health thoughtfully and taking important steps to stay active. It’s great that you’re working closely with your dentist regarding Prolia and jaw health concerns. Your dedication to weight training and chair exercises is inspiring! Wishing you continued strength and health! 💪🦴
HRT is the way to go with a modest bump of testosterone, eat protein lots of good protein, lift the absolute heaviest weight you can safely with a trainer... Tell the bones to grow... The body is an amazing thing, it will adapt... Start shooting some jump shots(gym floor not cement driveway)... I am doing this again even with two bum knees, arthritis in one hip and a total hip replacement in the other. Make yourself a goal... in a month I will be shooting threes again...Pharma is not the way to go... don't do it... unless you absolutely have too...Do not be afraid of a little muscle soreness that is actually a good sign you did something...
@@katieking8830 sorry! still lift... you can do it... even if it's the bar only for squats. The liftmor exercises compound movements are the way to go... search it you see what they are..
Can't do it if you've had breast biopsies and bulging discs in your back. But I agree with any physical activity you can tolerate. Wishing you the best.
@@renniechrist8919 I read all the literature and have not taken anything except natural holistic measures. My bones have not gotten worse. I personally don’t trust the push to keep us on drugs. So far it has been fine for me personally. People need to do their own research and find their correct path. It has now been eight years.
Weighing the risks / benefits. Do I want to be on something for potentially the next 20-25 years of my life? Or do other things naturally to have a quality of life. That's where I'm at. Doing research from NON "industry funded studies" , if I can find them .
I had compression fractures of the thoracic region without a fall. I was lifting something over my head and thought I strained the muscles bilaterally. I was on prolia for two years. I had bone density improvement but still had the fractures. They showed up on my pet ct that was about a month post injury. My sister was on prolia with improvements in density but broke her knee, and it broke. What should I do?
I have been on Prolia for a year and a half and feel like I have terrible side effects from it so I’d like to get off it both my bone specialist and endocrinologist recommended relaying off with an anabolic (evenity) as you do also, but I am doing a lot of reading and everything I have been reading is recommending that you relay off with the biphosphonate, Amgen, the maker of the drug states that in their paperwork. Also, a study was done in Switzerland by a Dr. Lamy says it must be biphosphonate otherwise you will have more fractures, possibly. I’m wondering whether you can recommend any literature where it says that an anabolic would work just as well. Thank you.
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Have been told to take it and refused at 71. Lost 50 lbs, do weight baring exercises and walk/trot downhill. I have not thought about HRT and wonder if I should ask about it. My t scores just hit Osteoporosis and I am following much of your protocol. Guess we'll see next year how that's going. Still won't take the drugs, tho. Thanks for your podcasts!
Start this now... you will need a blood test and mammogram. I had to do additional tests, a CT leg scan as sticky blood runs in my family, and a calcium scan for the heart. If all is clear with the testing, a compounded pharmacy will make a nice cream with the three compounds in it in the right amounts for you... This works!!! Another positive is that my skin quality has gotten so much better. I think estrogen stimulates collagen production. I feel 20 years younger...its amazing....the old study on hormone replacement was flawed and untrue...hormones keeps us young
My doc prescribed Prolia but I refused after reading so many horror stories. He then prescribed Alendronate/Colecalciferol tablets. I am too stared to start. I am doing research on this drug first. Btw, I am female.
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My problem is that I have acromegaly & can't get a straight answer from 4 different doctors if my osteoporosis is from the medication I have to take for the excessive growth hormone or if indeed this is just from the acromegaly, surgery was almost 20yrs ago,but 3 yrs later I had to start the sandostatin, most confusing.....only 64yrs young & Osteoporosis is worse than my 80 yrs old mom
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I have been on Prolia for 9-1/2 years and am 77 years old. Why did you say you HAVE to come off of it at some point? I’ve been considering transitioning to bisphosphonates, but it sounds risky for me.
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My doctor had trouble billing for Prolia from Medicare and Tricare so I only got a couple of shots, We tried another product but I don't like the side effects that develop. I am depending on vitamins and minerals supplements in stead, at worse my body just dumps them, also I am now in my 80's my life expectancy if family history is a clue is as much as 20 more years and I know at this age that 20 is not a long time. I am taking for Thyroid but I am tired of taking pills and doctors not trying to help me get out of my health problems.
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Thank you very much, Dr. DOUG for this insightful video about proglia. I am using it in a perimenopausal state, and with your info I can make a decision whether to continue and if so for how long. Many thanks, Ms Reimara
6 Love listening to you. Such great information. Would like you to do the same for Evenity. Are there studies for long-term use of this drug. Especially concerning jaw, and heart and strokes studies. Thanks so much for all the good information.
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I' ve got 3 prolio shots. Month ago had to extract two teeth. Now I am month delay from prolio shot and want to relay off. As I undestand my only option is bisposphonate to manage rebound. I am 73 year old. My score was -2.8 when I began prolio, now it is -2.2. Could you please advise. Thank you.
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I got jaw necrosis and my specialist stopped prolia (i also have a dentures)i have been getting 10years but between I had one year drug holiday. I am in modarate risk of osteoporosis. Specialist even didn't know about withrowal spinal fructures I mentioned. I am 60 and horrified what can happened to me I know i need to come up with exercise/diet plan but what else you would recommend!
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There is a study about it www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7979260/#:~:text=Melatonin%20contributes%20to%20bone%20repair,oxidative%20stress%20and%20osteoclastogenesis%2C%20respectively. I hope Dr Doug speaks about it
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Thanks for the information . I had one shut 2 months ago, and I regretted it. I wouldn't go forder , i perefer strogen , and just face the quendecen. Mor notorious. Exercise.
I had one needle of prolia. The next morning I fainted then went down to hospital because I was not feeling good. The hospital told me I could be allergic to prolia. The next couple of weeks the side of my head went numb. My pain in my leg got worse. I went to specialist about my head. He was going to give me an injection to numb part of my neck. Then I developed kidney stones and sepsis. Was in the hospital for a few weeks then had an operation for the kidney stones. I called the prolia office and the specialist that gave me the needle.
Started on the drug for 3 months 3yrs ago and back on it again 7 months now and still. Had some jaw issue at first after taking the drug and has subsided. Been taking calcium and vitamin D with it though. Am I in the right path Doc or what?
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i am 53, spine is 44% bone lost, neck bone is 31% right leg, neck bone is 33% left leg..............no fractures ....(1) How old is my bone structure ?______ example 70, 75, 80 or 85 years old.. George
I am surprised that my answer to one comment was deleted twice. Anything wrong about me explaining my case? anyway, just to let you know before you delete this one as well.
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and what about getting out of an anabolic drug. Like if I am 6 months on forteo, and really ready to go for exercise and supplements to carry on stimulating my oasteoblasts, can I stop forteo without having to switch to any other drug? being diagnosed with osteoporosis and going for exercise right away is a tremendous challenge. Doing LIFTMOR, even if you increase your weight lifting very very carefully, how can you know how much is too much? We now that lifting too little is useless... It's a whole challenge.
Forteo is the drug he speaks most positively about. It's not like the others, because it's not suppressing bone turnover. The problem is, it's so expensive. I was on it for 2 years when it was new, and didn't do anything after coming off, so I lost what I gained (it's still not a rebound, not like Prolia). I would do Forteo again, and probably could, as my insurance is thru Eli Lilly. But next time after coming off, I would do HRT and other supplements, as well as the resistance training, weighted vest, and PowerPlate that I'm already doing, to prevent losing the gains.
@@Indydi thanks so much for sharing. I just started forteo, and in france it is cheap because it is made here! and I have in mind to do everything you enumerate except HRT since I am a man. I hope I can totally stop forteo after six months, if dexa and bone markers show improvements. I was even thinking to do injection every other day instead of daily, but too little is said about it. (japanese reported of twice-weekly 28 mcg teriparatide injection giving good result. google about it) You see last year, full of enthusiasm, I dead power plate and LIFTMOR and supplements, but in my progression, I increased the weight a little too fast and damaged my L4 verterbrae, I finally had to change, and to turn to drug for a while, and be very very cautious when returning to exercise,,,that's the spice of life! thank you again.
@@Indydi thanks so much for sharing. I just started forteo and it is cheap in france because it is made here. I plan to do all what you enumerate, except HRT, since I am a man. I hope to stop after 6 months if dexa and bone turnover markers show clear improvements. I even thought of injecting every other day instead of daily, but too little is said about it. (japanese report twice-weekly 28 mcg teriparatide injection giving good results. google about it) you see, last year, full enthusiasm I started all the program of exercise, power plate and supplements, but in my progression, I increased the weight in LIFTMOR too fast and damaged my L$ vertebrae... so I finally had to start anew and turn to drug temporaly... spice of life! thanks again
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So many people are taking this injection thinking everything will be the best thing for them, if I had of taken this l would be very upset. People stick to a health diet forget the drugs!
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Hi I’m 65 and started 2 months ago, and feel amazing. There is a new study that came out early April that should make HRT a positive choice for everyone. Even us old ladies😂. Check out the Ten Million Women study. Puts the WHI away,I hope, finally
Dr. Dough with what I've read and learned about Prolia, what would you suggest alternative medication instead of Prolia My endo doctor recommended me for a shot of Prolia but I have several apprehensions taking my doctor advice.
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Thank you Dr. Doug!I have been on Prolia for 21/2 years and told my doctor I wanted to stop as all the info out there was terrifying for bone fractures and side effects when coming off of it. I have started a weight lighting, weight bearing, and supplement routine. K2, Vit.D and hydrolyzed collagen Protein. I am not due for my next shot til Aug.(which I am not taking) so I have started this routine in advance to avoid any potential risks that may occur. Honestly, just in 2 weeks I feel stronger ! I am 61 years old and I hope to enjoy this time doing things to keep me active, healthy and stronger. My new grandson, has also been a huge motivator for me. ❤️. Thank you for easing my overactive worried mind about this dangerous drug. All the best to you .
Hi! Thank you so much for sharing all of this, I am so glad to hear that!!
Thank you so much for this excellent, super informative explanation. I stopped Prolia 2 years ago (after 10 years!) and don’t want to start any other drugs for now (much to my doctor’s dismay). I’ve worked with a trainer, dietician and did a ton of research but this made me feel like I’ve definitely made the right decision. Lots of major life changes, although I was a pretty healthy 71 year old, and expect to continue to improve my bones and health. Thank you again!!!
Thank you so much for sharing this, I am very glad to hear that!
Hi Debbie, I am wondering if you suffered any bone fractures after 10 years? So scary what doctors and pharmaceutical companies tell a person when wanting to quit . Thank you in advance
@@paulinepaetzy857 I have not had any fractures but doing a lot of proactive steps like weight lifting, resistance training, supplements and diet changes. Also being very careful with balance, not twisting or rounding my back, etc. but staying active. Time will tell! My very best to you.
@@Debbiedo28 I think you made the right choice. I will stand by the same logic as quit all bone drugs eight yrs ago. These drugs are worse for me overall and so far doing okay.
@@Debbiedo28 Thanks for sharing! I am still on Prolia (about 7 years). When I started it, I guess it was a relatively new drug and my rheumatologist didn't know about the rebound effect. I would be too chicken to quit cold turkey, even if I was taking supplements (I am) and doing exercise (I do when I can, but life gets in the way...). It seems like Reclast after stopping Prolia is a safe choice, and I suppose I could stop Reclast after that. It's hard to find a doctor who knows about this. Thanks again for sharing, and good luck keeping your bones strong!
You just described me a month ago--totally stressed out over stopping Prolia after 4.5 years. I've been all over your comment sections, and I'm sure I lost some bone over all that stress. Now a full service patient, just starting up, I'm very hopeful that I'll get off this bone metabolism poison successfully. But it's not just about stopping it and preventing catastrophe--it's about replacing it with a really solid program afterward, and that's already in the works. Thank you for all you do! Even after watching most of your videos, I still learn a lot in the weekly Q&A on Wednesdays, and have been watching the older ones too. I tell everyone I know--and even many I don't know--about you. 😁
--Diane K Miller
Hi Diane! Thank you so much for sharing this, I greatly appreciate your support. I am so glad to hear that these videos and the Q&A sessions are helpful for you!
My PCP, didn't even ask me, just pressured me to take Prolia, "Go down the hall and get a blood test, then we are going to start you on Prolia". I did go down the hall and out the door. When I got home, I read the pamphlet on Prolia from the manufacturer. When I went back to the PCP and asked her if she read the pamphlet, she hadn't. I told her there was a 5% chance of jaw necrosis considering underlying jaw and dental issues. She said that 5% is nothing, so I told her I don't feel lucky, if she does, take it herself. Then I found another PCP.
By the way, I was never asked anything about life style or supplements. I am careful what I put in my body. I walk uphill five time a week dragging golf clubs and trotting when I can. It's been four years since I was diagnosed with osteoporosis, and I am learning everything I can about strengthening my bones. I just subscribed to your channel. You are plain spoken, brief and knowledgeable. Thank you and I plan to look at the videos previous to this one.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
@@Dr_DougLucas You are welcome. fyi, I'm 77 years old.
@@reelsonwheels2128 The nerve! 5% is nothing? O% is nothing. And they do not tell you a word about the withdrawal effects. I hope you're feeling better now.
I had two injections… switched Rheumatologists and my new Dr recommended it and after doing research, I decided to go the natural route, HRT and weight bearing exercises and supplements. I told her I would not being getting anymore injections and she said “ so you are refusing treatment?” I said yes and she told me it’s safe, I have my mom getting these injections! So what! I will not be putting that poison in my body anymore. My other Drs support my decision.
Thank you for sharing your story!
Good for you. Do your due diligence before putting any drugs in your body. Listen if you're still walking and bending whats the alternative? YOU get on this poison and your quality of life can decrease.
I had a bad reaction.I am in the hospital right now from a bronchitis, shortness of breath, temperature spike, drop in oxygen saturation, ended with opportunistic infection. Body and muscles pains and rib cages pains.Not for me
I am so sorry to hear that. Thank you for sharing this.
This happened to me also, I started wheezing really bad. Took some herbs that I had, next day no wheezing but I still we to the doctor, did chest X-ray and listened to my chest heard nothing. This is my first injection, I will not get another.
That’s me now, I had the Prolia injection in September this year 2024, today I am watching this is 12/5/2024. My quality of life has diminished greatly because of terrible side effects, I will not be getting another😢
Thanks so much. Wish i knew the adverse effects before i started Prolia. Fortunately i only had my first injection and plan to stop it,
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My biggest question is what happens if you have a fracture while on the stuff? If it reduces bone building..
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I fractured my femur in April 2015 and my bone had regenerated sufficiently in October 2016 to remove the plate and screws which had damaged my ITB (Iliotibial band). Having been on Prolia following on from Actonil, all up about 12 years. I now have to have all but 6 teeth removed as they have rotted from the inside out. I had been spending a fortune at a Dentist for surface repairs. It was only this year of going to a University Dental Clinic I was told my teeth were rotten on the inside as well. So please pay attention to your teeth. It wasn't until two molars fractured down to the gum line I knew something was wrong.I also had bone fractures both sides of starting injections. It was a case of starting therapy due to fractures but I still suffered fractures while on the injections.
Still watching your videos every day...still lifting, still eating as well as i can, thank u doc!
You got this! Thank you for watching!
Well, I have been on 'this" since the Osteoporosis clinic started at the Hospitals in Copenhagen almost 15 years ago. I even do not remember the names of the medicine and tablets, I started with til WE ended with the PROLIA.
Well, during the Corona period, I was not able to go out, to visit doctors, to get a prescription of the drug/Prolia, since I was not home in Denmark, but on the Canary Isles, unable to do anything about getting the injection. So, in almost half a year, I had to stop unwillingly... Being in despair, I looked for help on the Internet, found a group on FaceBook and got my life's shock! Reading all I could find about the side effects of the drug. But it was nothing compared to the confrontation of my GP and all the unwillingness of the health system in Copenhagen. As a result, I still go on with the Prolia, since I do not know if it is advisable to stop it without controlling the results under a specialist watch.
How am I supposed to stop after all these years without being supervised??!
I am being pressured significantly by my endocrinologist and my rheumatologist. I have read so much and it's not rocket science to see how questionable it is taking these drugs. I'm 62, and I want to take natural supplements to help with my osteoporosis.
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Thank you! I finally got the information on Prolia I was looking for. I still want to take a year to try increasing bone on my own. Heel drops and foot stomping are very interesting to me. I already tap dance so I could do dropping and stomping to the tapping music without my tap shoes. I’m still figuring out my diet to work for my kidney disease and bones. I’m on it! Thanks again!
Thank you so much for sharing this. I am glad to hear these videos have been helpful!
I would worry about stomping as I would not be comfortable jarring up the back of foot to leg. A bit like running flat footed.
While on long term Actonil followed by Prolia I started taking 5,000iu of Vitamin D3 in 2020. Taking my calicium level from approximately 75 nmol/L to 122 nmol/L in November 2023. I have only become aware of requiring vitamin K2 which I have been taking this year. I fractured my wrist in 1997, a compression fracture of my T12 and prolapsed lumbar vertebrae in 2005.
Approximately I started Actonil in 2011 then my Dr transferred me to Prolia after about three years. In 2015, I fractured my Distal Femur, however I had bilateral total knee replacements in 2000. NOW I need all but six teeth removed as they have become rotten from the inside out, according to dental x-rays. So much for strengthening my bones when so much dental damage has been done.
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Too late for me as I’ve been on Prolia for 3 years now… I’m afraid to stop … I’m 62 & moderate fracture risk as per my bone density scores.. I was a high fracture risk level …& im on HRT, TRT
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I have been on prolia now for about 5-6 years. Prior was on actonal, fosamax, because of osteoporosis from several fractures. Breast cancer in 2015. Did the chemo for 4 months, then 3 years of chemo pills. My dexascan showed issues and i was put on prolia, warned about jaw issues, last scan advised to continue prolia…no major side effects, do have sensitivity in gums. Will be speaking to my dentist. He is aware of prolia issues and necrosis. I feel compelled to continue prolia till advised against. I do chair exercises and weight training with arms 3x’s a week . 2lbs so far. Would like to learn more and stay active awhile longer. Current age 73.
Thank you for sharing your experience! It’s clear you’ve been managing your health thoughtfully and taking important steps to stay active. It’s great that you’re working closely with your dentist regarding Prolia and jaw health concerns. Your dedication to weight training and chair exercises is inspiring! Wishing you continued strength and health! 💪🦴
I just started the Algaecare bone builder pack. Hoping for the best. Want to avoid the pharmaceuticals if possible.
Thank you for sharing!
HRT is the way to go with a modest bump of testosterone, eat protein lots of good protein, lift the absolute heaviest weight you can safely with a trainer... Tell the bones to grow... The body is an amazing thing, it will adapt... Start shooting some jump shots(gym floor not cement driveway)... I am doing this again even with two bum knees, arthritis in one hip and a total hip replacement in the other. Make yourself a goal... in a month I will be shooting threes again...Pharma is not the way to go... don't do it... unless you absolutely have too...Do not be afraid of a little muscle soreness that is actually a good sign you did something...
Best Advice.
Can’t do if you’ve had breast cancer
@@katieking8830 sorry! still lift... you can do it... even if it's the bar only for squats. The liftmor exercises compound movements are the way to go... search it you see what they are..
Can't do it if you've had breast biopsies and bulging discs in your back. But I agree with any physical activity you can tolerate. Wishing you the best.
Thank you for sharing all of this!
Took this four times and stopped. It is nasty! I did not start anything else as prefer to try natural ways. Any synthetic drug is an issue to me.
Thank you for sharing!
Playing with fire, you must take biphosponate after prolia to prevent fractures. Prolia is even now telling us that in their literature.
@@renniechrist8919 I read all the literature and have not taken anything except natural holistic measures. My bones have not gotten worse. I personally don’t trust the push to keep us on drugs. So far it has been fine for me personally. People need to do their own research and find their correct path. It has now been eight years.
@@renniechrist8919 absolutely untrue. Do your research as been off all of it 8 yrs. And holistically better.
Weighing the risks / benefits. Do I want to be on something for potentially the next 20-25 years of my life? Or do other things naturally to have a quality of life. That's where I'm at. Doing research from NON "industry funded studies" , if I can find them .
I had compression fractures of the thoracic region without a fall. I was lifting something over my head and thought I strained the muscles bilaterally. I was on prolia for two years. I had bone density improvement but still had the fractures. They showed up on my pet ct that was about a month post injury. My sister was on prolia with improvements in density but broke her knee, and it broke. What should I do?
Ty well informed video. Ty for easing my mind. I now know what to do. Sooo relieved.
Thank you for watching, very glad to hear that!
I have been on Prolia for a year and a half and feel like I have terrible side effects from it so I’d like to get off it both my bone specialist and endocrinologist recommended relaying off with an anabolic (evenity) as you do also, but I am doing a lot of reading and everything I have been reading is recommending that you relay off with the biphosphonate, Amgen, the maker of the drug states that in their paperwork. Also, a study was done in Switzerland by a Dr. Lamy says it must be biphosphonate otherwise you will have more fractures, possibly. I’m wondering whether you can recommend any literature where it says that an anabolic would work just as well. Thank you.
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Have been told to take it and refused at 71. Lost 50 lbs, do weight baring exercises and walk/trot downhill. I have not thought about HRT and wonder if I should ask about it. My t scores just hit Osteoporosis and I am following much of your protocol. Guess we'll see next year how that's going. Still won't take the drugs, tho. Thanks for your podcasts!
Thank you for sharing this!
Start this now... you will need a blood test and mammogram. I had to do additional tests, a CT leg scan as sticky blood runs in my family, and a calcium scan for the heart. If all is clear with the testing, a compounded pharmacy will make a nice cream with the three compounds in it in the right amounts for you... This works!!! Another positive is that my skin quality has gotten so much better. I think estrogen stimulates collagen production. I feel 20 years younger...its amazing....the old study on hormone replacement was flawed and untrue...hormones keeps us young
My doc prescribed Prolia but I refused after reading so many horror stories.
He then prescribed Alendronate/Colecalciferol tablets. I am too stared to start. I am doing research on this drug first. Btw, I am female.
This happened to me in October 2023, I have a total of 5 fractured vertebrae now. It may never get better. Am I angry yes.
Sorry to hear that but did the fracture happen after you take the injection?
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I would like to join your class, how do I sing up?
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My problem is that I have acromegaly & can't get a straight answer from 4 different doctors if my osteoporosis is from the medication I have to take for the excessive growth hormone or if indeed this is just from the acromegaly, surgery was almost 20yrs ago,but 3 yrs later I had to start the sandostatin, most confusing.....only 64yrs young & Osteoporosis is worse than my 80 yrs old mom
Sorry so long, take reclast once a yr
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I have been on Prolia for 9-1/2 years and am 77 years old. Why did you say you HAVE to come off of it at some point? I’ve been considering transitioning to bisphosphonates, but it sounds risky for me.
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First shot of 120 mg prolia given today.
3 hours no side effects give opinion
Thank you for sharing!
5 days passed
No side effects
But lot of worries of side effects
Do update us
It also affects your dental health. Make sure your dentist know you're taking Prolia.
My doctor had trouble billing for Prolia from Medicare and Tricare so I only got a couple of shots, We tried another product but I don't like the side effects that develop. I am depending on vitamins and minerals supplements in stead, at worse my body just dumps them, also I am now in my 80's my life expectancy if family history is a clue is as much as 20 more years and I know at this age that 20 is not a long time. I am taking for Thyroid but I am tired of taking pills and doctors not trying to help me get out of my health problems.
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My dr wants me to start on prolia because my back is -4.2 on dexa acan and 3.7 in femur. She wants to get my PTH down before instart taking it.
Hi! Thank you for sharing this
Where can i buy algaecal ,doc
How can i order and how to give the payment
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Thank you very much, Dr. DOUG for this insightful video about proglia. I am using it in a perimenopausal state, and with your info I can make a decision whether to continue and if so for how long. Many thanks, Ms Reimara
Hi! Thank you so much for watching, I am glad to hear that this video was helpful!
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Love listening to you. Such great information. Would like you to do the same for Evenity. Are there studies for long-term use of this drug. Especially concerning jaw, and heart and strokes studies. Thanks so much for all the good information.
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I' ve got 3 prolio shots. Month ago had to extract two teeth. Now I am month delay from prolio shot and want to relay off. As I undestand my only option is bisposphonate to manage rebound. I am 73 year old. My score was -2.8 when I began prolio, now it is -2.2. Could you please advise. Thank you.
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I got jaw necrosis and my specialist stopped prolia (i also have a dentures)i have been getting 10years but between I had one year drug holiday.
I am in modarate risk of osteoporosis.
Specialist even didn't know about withrowal spinal fructures I mentioned.
I am 60 and horrified what can happened to me
I know i need to come up with exercise/diet plan but what else you would recommend!
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My mom on prolia from 2015
Until now
I don't know if she needs to switch to Actonel or continue prolia
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What is HRT?
Hi! Checkout the video on my channel called "HRT Hormone Replacement Therapy with Dr. Doug Lucas"
Dr. Doug, Have you heard that melatonin can help bone growth?
And what do you think about it?
There is a study about it www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7979260/#:~:text=Melatonin%20contributes%20to%20bone%20repair,oxidative%20stress%20and%20osteoclastogenesis%2C%20respectively.
I hope Dr Doug speaks about it
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How can icontact you directly.i want to go out after9 years of prolia
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Thanks .
Thank you for watching!
Thank you!
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Thanks for the information . I had one shut 2 months ago, and I regretted it. I wouldn't go forder , i perefer strogen , and just face the quendecen. Mor notorious. Exercise.
Thank you for sharing!
I had one needle of prolia. The next morning I fainted then went down to hospital because I was not feeling good. The hospital told me I could be allergic to prolia. The next couple of weeks the side of my head went numb. My pain in my leg got worse. I went to specialist about my head. He was going to give me an injection to numb part of my neck. Then I developed kidney stones and sepsis. Was in the hospital for a few weeks then had an operation for the kidney stones. I called the prolia office and the specialist that gave me the needle.
I can’t find where to join the Masterclass. I’m using an IPad. Can someone help please?
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Started on the drug for 3 months 3yrs ago and back on it again 7 months now and still.
Had some jaw issue at first after taking the drug and has subsided. Been taking calcium and vitamin D with it though.
Am I in the right path Doc or what?
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i am 53, spine is 44% bone lost, neck bone is 31% right leg, neck bone is 33% left leg..............no fractures ....(1) How old is my bone structure ?______ example 70, 75, 80 or 85 years old..
George
Thank you for sharing this!
I am surprised that my answer to one comment was deleted twice. Anything wrong about me explaining my case? anyway, just to let you know before you delete this one as well.
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Anabolics are scary if one has cancer.
But they don't cause new cases of cancer, at least not in humans. Only in rats.
Thank you for sharing!
and what about getting out of an anabolic drug. Like if I am 6 months on forteo, and really ready to go for exercise and supplements to carry on stimulating my oasteoblasts, can I stop forteo without having to switch to any other drug?
being diagnosed with osteoporosis and going for exercise right away is a tremendous challenge. Doing LIFTMOR, even if you increase your weight lifting very very carefully, how can you know how much is too much? We now that lifting too little is useless... It's a whole challenge.
Forteo is the drug he speaks most positively about. It's not like the others, because it's not suppressing bone turnover. The problem is, it's so expensive. I was on it for 2 years when it was new, and didn't do anything after coming off, so I lost what I gained (it's still not a rebound, not like Prolia). I would do Forteo again, and probably could, as my insurance is thru Eli Lilly. But next time after coming off, I would do HRT and other supplements, as well as the resistance training, weighted vest, and PowerPlate that I'm already doing, to prevent losing the gains.
@@Indydi thanks so much for sharing. I just started forteo, and in france it is cheap because it is made here!
and I have in mind to do everything you enumerate except HRT since I am a man. I hope I can totally stop forteo after six months, if dexa and bone markers show improvements. I was even thinking to do injection every other day instead of daily, but too little is said about it. (japanese reported of twice-weekly 28 mcg teriparatide injection giving good result. google about it) You see last year, full of enthusiasm, I dead power plate and LIFTMOR and supplements, but in my progression, I increased the weight a little too fast and damaged my L4 verterbrae, I finally had to change, and to turn to drug for a while, and be very very cautious when returning to exercise,,,that's the spice of life! thank you again.
@@Indydi thanks so much for sharing. I just started forteo and it is cheap in france because it is made here. I plan to do all what you enumerate, except HRT, since I am a man. I hope to stop after 6 months if dexa and bone turnover markers show clear improvements. I even thought of injecting every other day instead of daily, but too little is said about it. (japanese report twice-weekly 28 mcg teriparatide injection giving good results. google about it) you see, last year, full enthusiasm I started all the program of exercise, power plate and supplements, but in my progression, I increased the weight in LIFTMOR too fast and damaged my L$ vertebrae... so I finally had to start anew and turn to drug temporaly... spice of life! thanks again
What is the power plate you use?
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So many people are taking this injection thinking everything will be the best thing for them, if I had of taken this l would be very upset. People stick to a health diet forget the drugs!
Thank you for sharing!
Would HRT be safe for women in their 70 for osteoporosis? Hate all these other drugs.
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Hi I’m 65 and started 2 months ago, and feel amazing. There is a new study that came out early April that should make HRT a positive choice for everyone. Even us old ladies😂. Check out the Ten Million Women study. Puts the WHI away,I hope, finally
Bisphosphonate is required, temporarily, to combat the REBOUND.
Thank you for sharing!
Dr. Dough with what I've read and learned about Prolia, what would you suggest alternative medication
instead of Prolia My endo doctor recommended me for a shot of Prolia but I have several apprehensions taking my doctor advice.
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