The Best New B&M for Every Six Flags Park
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2022
- Six Flags and B&M are working together on a new project for the first time in 10 years. Now that this relationship seems to be on the table again, let's look at the best B&M fit for each park in the chain.
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I do think B&M are going to start having a renaissance of sorts. I think they need more launched models to compete with what Intamin, Mack and Premier are doing. Most parks, that it makes sense to have one, already have a Hyper or suspended. Maybe more parks in the future can make room for a Giga if they can afford one. I really think B&M could innovate if they change their layouts and start launching floorless and winged models. It's crazy that Thunderbird is the only launched Wing model, considering how good it is.
B&M's surf coaster seems to be their answer for a multi-launch. Chessington is also planning a launched wing shuttle coaster for next year
@@StormBreakr Wow Chessington really? Didn't see that one coming.
I agree...I think parks are going to move toward the longevity B&M can provide vs other manufacturers
Right now, with so many parks getting in the news from terrible ride accidents, the manufacturer with the most absolutely sterling reputation for safety and reliability has to be getting renewed attention. Their rides are expensive, and they haven't been pushing the envelope hard lately, but you get what you pay for.
@@MattMcIrvin That's spot on and B&M's track record is sterling. I think we probably will see their Surf model start filling empty spaces at parks in the future, but of course that will take a few years as I imagine they can only do one at a time. I think it would do B&M good to have a couple smaller models. I look at Ice Breaker, Pantheon and Time Traveler none have height or speed records, but they do bring alot of innovation to the table.
Chris,
I for one would like to see B&M do a launched inverted coaster. I'd have the elements be .... Sea Serpent/Cutback/Dive Loop/Zero G roll
While not an invert... Hulk is a great B&M launched coaster from 24 years ago. My guess is launching is too expensive as B&Ms can get pricy.
@juiceboxer100 I rode it in 1998 as my 2nd launched coaster(Tidal wave #1) and it today is still great launching into the roll
I'm suprised b&m never made a exclusively launch model like basically every other manufacturer......
“Unless B&M can rmc roar” 😂
I noticed that as well
"Intimin gets sued by everyone they've wronged" im amazed it hasn't happened yet TBH.
Not gonna lie, was expecting the launched model to go to Over Georgia. They've been missing a launch coaster for a long time, and it seems like it's one of the main gaps.
Could very well swap the wing with GADV's surf
I gotta say you can never go wrong with B&M
I hope that, with the success B&M's been seeing with their cost-effective mini-dives, they'll start introducing some mid-to-low price new ride models or cloneable layouts. Cedar Fair's trying to cut back on spending and has already bought just about every B&M ever made; if B&M wants to market to Six Flags and other chains that are less willing to spend big, they need some cheaper ride models
They have their Family Coaster model, which can be built as an inverted or sit-down coaster, but it unfortunately has a maximum rider height of 6'4". If they were to increase that maximum rider height and then more seriously market both versions of the ride, they might be able to rival Vekoma in that market.
I love these style of videos, do more of these from other manufacturers.
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head. I was thinking of giving Georgia the Giga to try and make the park stand out as a tourist destination, but a large wing coaster would do a pretty good job of that.
Unfortunately SFOG has a height limit of 200ft, so a giga will be impossible.
A new rollercoaster won't be enough to make Over Georgia into a destination. Many locals are considering going to Fun Spot Atlanta instead of Over Georgia, despite Fun Spot Atlanta only having one good ride. The reason why is because of Over Georgia's bad reputation with regards to staff and operations.
This is a rare video where I disagree with a good amount of your picks, but your premier switching over to workout equipment joke was one of your best jokes yet
You should do this for Cedar Fair, but it's Intamin instead.
Assuming Knott's Berry Farm actually gets its proposed B&M Giga, I think Magic Mountain would be more likely to get an Intamin Giga. Something like Hyperion at Energylandia but cracking the 300' mark might be in order.
If the Knott's Giga happens ( which, if I were to put money on it, I'll buy it), theres absolutely NO WAY Magic Mountain will sleep on it. They'll build something that'll compete with it in 2024-2025, even if its the last coaster for a while. Whether that'll be a giga or something else, we'll have to wait and see. But SFMM will 100% clap back at Knott's.
You read my mind. That certainly would compete with Knotts b&m giga, both being the first on the West Coast.
True, i didnt really consider Knott's B&M giga when doing this video, it would be weird for both parks to have one
One year later, Knott's has cancelled the giga plans. They probably realised they would never get planning permission for that in a residential area. Instead, they're getting a B&M Mini-Hyper.
Tips hat. Six Flags Over Texas fans appreciate the endorsement of a giga to replace Titan.
From Titan to
The GREAT TEXAS TITAN OF TERROR
@@seanlewis1148 I like the way you think.
Over Georgia has a nice collection of B&Ms, and adding a launched wing coaster would be a good fit. If we're talking any manufacturer, I'd go with an Intamin blitz multi-launch. An RMC Raptor Wonder Woman clone where the water ride was would be cool (if they could fit it). It's fun to speculate, then they just give us a free spin or something 😆
You’re right about New England and air time. They have a lot of high key and subtle airtime machines. Need a launch or compact dive next.
It's not B&M, but when Cotaland announced that new Vekoma tilt coaster I was thinking that could be a possibility for SFNE too, if they wanted to go a little out on a limb.
Do this but cedar fair and intamin
Tell me why I had a dream SFOG got a Launched WING COASTER😩GREAT VIDEO
All three B&M Gigas are at a park that also has a B&M Hyper, and one featuring the staggered seating exclusive to those three rides (plus Shambhala) at that! Coincidence???!?! Probably.
I definitely agree that a flyer at La Ronde would be great, especially if it flew over the pond in the middle of the park.
Yes! Even a Wing would be amazing flying over the pond. Also they can scrap Ednor at the same time to make some extra room
@@masonmusic2193 Or give Ednor vest restraints, since scrapping a rollercoaster in a park which gets such little investment is generally a bad idea.
Yes! I’ve been thinking that Over Texas could use a Giga! I’m glad we’re on the same wave length. If by some miracle that did happen, I would hope that they call it The Lone Star 💫
Giga for every park. Done. Shortest video ever 😂.
Yeahh this was the main reason i went with 2 models max lol
I would love to see a central Florida coasters by the numbers video! That way you don’t have to go by each parks smaller numbers. Just an idea
Very interesting idea. I was thinking about doing all disney parks but central florida would be a good one also
I was saying for years that America should get a clone of X-Flight
Same
St. Louis should be like Kings Dominion and skip getting a hyper and go straight for the giga status
Here’s an idea: Instead of B&M, what about the best Vekoma model for each park? You’d have Bermuda Blitz/Wildcat, Shockwave, Flying Dutchman 3.0, STC, SFC, Tilt Coaster and Super Boomerang.
Great video chris, but with all due respect I think the idea of Six Flags building any sort of B&M giga coaster is a bit generous... Even with the new CEO 😂😂
Oh yeah I know but its never been more possible than it is right now...aside from the late 90s
@@AirtimeThrills I see what you mean for sure!
I would like to see a B&M Dive come to SFOG. Since the park offers some of their coasters that are surrounded by water, it can be added next to Blue Hawk and have a splash down element when the train passes through the water.
I would love a B&M hyper at STL, but if they were going to build one, I would guess Mack or something less expensive would be a better budget option. Or just Rmc Boss and kill two birds with one stone…
They could use SF StL's hilly terrain to cut costs. Something like Apollo's Chariot.
Over Georgia has plenty of inversions already (Batman, Superman, Scorcher, Blue Hawk, Mind Bender, Twisted Cyclone, and even Dare Devil Dive). What they need is a nice launched coaster. Or something with a really unique gimmick. But if it had to be a B&M, I'd go with a Dive, even though there'd arguably be some overlap with DDD.
This channel makes so much random videos and thats why I like it.
I think Fiesta Texas would be best served by a hyper, but man I'd love to see a flyer dipping off the cliff wall.
Do they even have the room for a hyper?
@@therock238360 I always pictured it going up and over the cliffside on the east side of the park, dropping down near the employment center, then turning around at Fiesta Texas Drive. Maybe taking up a narrow swath of parking on the way back like Goliath @ La Ronde or Silver Star.
They should put iron rattler out of service. It’s old and isn’t reliable anymore. Not a moment to soon.
coolgamer17 9 years is old to you?
@@therock238360 yes.
"If b&m can rmc roar" Lol!
"Maybe Six Flags Tweeted something offensive like 10 years ago" lmao 🤣
Why is there such hate with the stand up coasters? I think Riddlers Revenge at Magic Mountain is an incredible ride. Those back to back dive loops while standing was top notch! B&M should keep making them.
Strange how you say this and then 11 months later we have Pipeline at SeaWorld Orlando, the first new standup coaster in 20 years.
I thought a Beyond vertical Dive Coaster would be cool for GADV when it's Sawmill's time to go, although Jersey has multiple beyond vertical drops there's no dive coasters anywhere around. but a surf coaster in that same deserted Frontier Town area would make sense.
Nailed it, once again !
Awesome video Airtime!
Yooo I suggested this! Made my day!
I would LOVE to see a wing coaster at six flags over Georgia! The B&Ms at the park are solid (Georgia Scorcher being my favorite), so a wing coaster there would be a great addition.
Fun video and I like almost all your ideas here. But don't you dare move X-Flight to Six Flags America!
I really like this list, a lot of thought went into it. Magic Moutain for a Giga & Fiesta for a Hyper were my exact same thoughts. Nearly everything else I loved the idea of. The only one that I think was a tough sell was the surf for Great Adventure. I'd put a 200+ foot dive there and give the surf to Discovery Kingdom instead.
That definitely would work also. Just seems like those small 150 ft dives were tailor made for DK
If SF:OG got another B&M it’d have ~5 in a lineup of 13-14 coasters
I would LOVE to see a GIGA at MM !! We can only hope and pray six flags opens their checkbook for once !!
And completely off topic..wonder woman. A foot taller than Jersey devil !!!
REALLY six flags !!
Six Flags Over Georgia definitely needs a launch coaster
that was a fun take...and i would love a dive at SFGA
Keep up the great vids!
I’m also incredibly biased and a total wishful thinker, while the idea of Great Adventure having a launch coaster is necessary, I do wish more than anything we’d get a Mack spinning coaster, even though they’ll likely never be manufactured again😭😭
Awesome new content!
Suggestion: What would replace Top Thrill Dragster? (assuming Cedar Point announces that they would scrap it)
There are two directions I could see Cedar Point going in that event.
1) Get a ride that fills a similar niche-i.e., that's mainly about its launch. The best candidates would probably be an S&S air launch or something from Premier Rides.
2) Break the world inversion record. I could see Gerstlauer, S&S, or Mack taking the job.
A dive coaster at SFGrAm would be great, replacing American eagle...it would look great near expressway (a weenie)
But, RMC conversion would be perfect and cost less than B&M dive and make a great 50th Anniversary present compared to a not-so-unique-anymore dive coaster.
I remember Goliath's first year, 3+ hour waits and 7+ years later still gets long lines = Fla$h pa$$...,which is new 6F priority,
No
If they were to replace the go-cart track with a dive coaster, that might be better. I haven't seen the go-cart track operate in a long time, and it takes up a good amount of space that could be used for something better.
You should do this style of video for cedar fair
Great video! You should do this for cedar fair
Not some gps sunglasses falling off of griffin 💀💀💀 I even zoomed in to see what it was
Knowing Six Flags, if they relocated X-Flight, they’d probably stick it in an open field with no theming.
Dr. Diabolical’s Cliffhanger is a great dive coaster for Six Flags to return the B&M roller coasters after 10 years! I didn't even notice that the B&M Surf Coaster is gonna be a thing until now. Hopefully Six Flags will get new B&M Roller Coasters opening in the future! So I agree with this list!
I wonder how much longer their ride experience philosophy will work for them . Long drawn-out elements, reorganized elements that are not really custom... While Fury325 is my absolute favorite B&M and Coaster, the rest of their rides are a blur to me as they are not what i call special coasters. Behemoth, fun ride but, it's not THAT different from Diamondback (though i prefer DB). The layouts are the same in that they have parabolic hills, a turn around etc.
What i mean is to me, Intamin has the best steel coaster layouts and a ride experience that is more in line with what i like. Velocicoaster reinvigorated my coaster love and left me speechless. B&M does not make bad rides but they also have fewer stand out rides that feel truly different. I mean, Emperor, it looks like they sped the pacing of the elements up a bit but it's the same dive coaster philosophy with give or take, the same elements. The Immelmann on a ride like Velocicoaster feels like a new element and does not feel like any other Immelmann i have ever ridden.
RMC, the reason why they are doing so well is that they have a COMPLETELY different ride philosophy that IMO returned the thrill to roller coasters. B&M, from an engineering, ride safety, reliability and maintenance standpoint, they are unmatched however, other manufacturers are delivering more thrilling rides in tighter footprints for less price with the same reliability. Intamin, in all their Mega Lyte coasters, managed to give each ride its own identity and i think that B&M should consider the same. I am not saying that i want their rides to ride like any of the aforementioned companies however, take Emperor for instance... why not add a stall on an inversion? To me, Orion would have been a great opportunity to do to a giga coaster something similar to say Hyperion. Instead, B&M delivered a shitty wave element, into a turn around to give a decent speed hill, strange and forgettable helix into a.. slight pop of air and a mile long brake run. So much more could have been delivered but they do not push themselves and guess what... a launch into the same elements we've ridden for decades is NOT innovation...
Video idea: Give your top 10 coasters roller coaster tycoon stats (Nausea, Intensity, and excitement)
I was floored when you suggested a giga for SFOT (maybe a little wishful thinking from your location). I still think a launched wing coaster 200’ tall where the amphitheater and old stunt show are now.
There for sure will not be any stand up coasters ......
Surf coaster: am I a joke to you?
I think a launched wing would be a perfect fit for Darien lake but a flyer is also a great fit
i really like the idea of B&M RMCing Roar its definitely gonna happen
I really would love for Great America to get a new Floorless. Since no parks are buying any ground-up Floorless coasters at the moment, I really hope they can relocate
Great Adventure’s Stand-up coaster Green Lantern to Great America and have it converted to a Floorless. For Green Lantern’s replacement, they should get a B&M Wing Coaster.
Also, if Great Escape were to get a B&M Invert, my guess is it’ll be another Batman clone. I mean, it is Six Flags after all. You know how they love cloned rides.
A batclone for these small six flags parks would make sense. They dont have any dc theming though
Giga:
Six Flags Magic Mountain
Six Flags Mexico
Hyper:
Six Flags St. Louis
Over Texas
Surf:
Over Georgia
Great Adventure
Flyer:
Fiesta Texas
Darien Lake
Invert:
Frontier City
Great Escape
Dive:
Discovery Kingdom
America
Great America
Wing:
LaRonde
New England
great video
Can you do a Cedar Fair version of this video?
Dr.Diabolical’s Cliffhanger looks really good that drop looks amazing, the blending of the elements looks great, and that drop off the MCBR looks great too and look like it would hit really good.
Do what intiman every six flags park needs
Hey man your like the coaster king to me but maybe a fun concept for a video your favorite/least favorite flat rides in america. If you even go on them :)
Cause i saw a video of crazanity at magic mountain that looked so intense
Wow! The bitterness towards Intamin at the beginning!
Definitely be interested in your thoughts on the kid who fell out of the drop tower last week.
If the new B&M restraints for the surf coaster turn out well, I hope they expand the design to encompass their other models with inversions. The vest restraints were a terrible choice on rides like Valravn and most of the newer B&Ms that have them. Dive coasters normally have zero headbanging to begin with, so vests are nonsensical.
you are assuming everyone agrees about the vests and they don't! They are immensely more comfortable than their old restraints, WAY more forgiving to larger guests and make the ride experience better.
@@Bnizzofashizzo The vests are immensely more uncomfortable for many guests as it is very common for the restraints to tighten significantly throughout the ride to the point where breathing is not comfortable. Having previously ridden Sheikra and Griffon, Valravn was quite a disappointment as the vests eliminate the floating feeling you'd get on those earlier dive coasters. The drop is literally the whole point for rides like that. The real solution would be for this new over the shoulder lap bar system to be comfortable for all riders while maintaining the freedom of a regular B&M hyper clamshell restraint.
Can you do an ultimate 6 flags park episode ? Take a different style coaster from six flags parks ei, a woodie , hyper , rmc , launch, 4d , flat ride and each category to create the ultimate 6 flags park. Can’t use the same park twice. And you can do the same with cedar fair ! Ultimate cedar fair park
I did not expect you to say a giga at over texas. I would not complain tho
You should do more of these with different manufacturers and chains
I just realized every b&m giga has a b&m giga in the same park.
Nooo don’t move xflight somebody take Superman instead lol
Fun video!
Ship superman to SFA another good plan
i now wanna see B&M try to "RMC Roar"
Video Idea: Best versions of bad coaster models
Part of me thinks that a dive coaster would work at great America but at the Same time we don’t have that world class rollercoaster and a dive coaster wouldn’t fill that quota especially if valravn is bigger
I truly think Great America should’ve gotten the giga coaster so that there’s a world class coaster to fit the park essentially finally rounding out the lineup perfectly
realistically i could see Gam get one if the fiesta texas one goes well, probably a clone, but still a dive
The B&M Surf at Great Adventure is a mouthwatering prospect.
Maybe you could do another one of these with Cedar Fair and Intamin. I know they haven't worked with Intamin, but I think they will again in the near future.
The moment you mentioned the Surf Coaster I said "New England." Sure, it'll never happen, but it'd still be right. A dive machine like Dr. D's Cliffhanger (or even a bigger one) would also be welcome there. But SFNE needs the launch more.
A dive at sfne would fit well also
I hope six flags gets some more B&Ms!
Another interesting video.
See, instead of giving SFOT a giga, I'd give it a flyer. There isn't a flying coaster anywhere near Texas, and for the GP they already have Titan to fill the "tall one" slot. Plus their only real inversion machine is a Batman clone. They could theme the flyer to Superman, which Six Flags loves to do, give it some minor record stat to drum up publicity, and watch the GP go wild.
Titan looks as big as giga. It looks massive in person.
i would love to have a flying coaster dropping off the quarry wall at fiesta
Giga- Magic Mountain, Great Adventure
Hyper- Fiesta, Over Texas (Hershey did it so why not)
Surf- New England, Over Georgia
Dive- Great America, Mexico
Wing- St. Louis, America
Flyer- LaRonde, Frontier City, Discovery Kingdom
Invert- Darien Lake, Great Escape
Those would be my choices.
I think a wing launch would be good at great adventure but I really like the surf for great adventure and while I think for their 50th anniversary they will get a thrill, not extreme primer blitz with 3 inversions
The dive to SFGAm is probably the most likely to actually happen.
Next up for Six Flags: the new AXIS coaster
Where would one fit...and why.
This a cool video. Do one for cedar fair. I think great America will get the next b&m
I’d love to see one of theses on cedar fair parks
Will never forgive u not getting SFGam a giga
Yes
I think Over Texas needs a multilooper badly, so I would give them a wing or invert. To keep as many of the rest of your choices, Fiesta Texas can have the giga, and I guess that gives a mini hyper to Frontier City or Great Escape? Fun thought experiment though! :)
You're righr about the multilooper at sfot. Kinda weird that other than batman nothing has more than 2 inversions
You should do one for the Sea World parks next.
I have a video idea 💡
Imagine a park like energylandia decided to open a US Park with around 15 coasters.
Video idea 1: What would be the best 15 rollercoasters install to have a perfect well rounded park.
Video idea 2: If the park could only add 1 coaster from each manufacturer. What would make the best combination 🤔
*LET’S GO INVERT!*
Do Intamin next! lol
I'm saying before I hear it, Great America needs a giga