Dust and Panpsychism in His Dark Materials | Attic Philosophy

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @alianna8806
    @alianna8806 3 месяца назад +1

    It's fascinating to me that Dust Theory exists, and I really related to this book when I first envountered it as a kid. I grew up with the reincarnation worldview, but it never quite sat right with me, each comsvious being has just one cohesive soul and it comes back complete in a different body like a new suit? While this works pretty well with animals because we are all individuals who give birth to a completely new and separate being, but not all life is so straightforward, especially fungi.
    Being immersed in nature for most of my life and definitely formative years, the consciousness of plants was pretty clear to me. Many plants have their own body and create seeds which turn into a new separate body, but what anout plants that propagate by division?
    I remember puzzling over this reincarnation and consciousness thing as a youngster sitting by a willow tree, which does dpread by cuttings. That's when it dawned on me that a conscious being is made up of many particles just like the cells in our bodies. Some of those can split off and form their own organization which is a distinct being, but whwn any being dies, all those particles dissapate into new forms. A lot might sort of stick together becouse they are in the same area, and that explained reincarnation memories to me. Anyway, that felt pretty new and unusual in my mind so imagine my excitment diacovering this book and the science that inspired it 😅

  • @victormd1100
    @victormd1100 4 года назад +9

    Consciousness truly does have a feel like its something different. Perhaps the same way a deterministic world cant have randomness, so too a world without consciousness cant possibly develop it, the major "problem" with this hypothesis seems to be that it makes consciousness something which we cant understand by science, perhaps making it impossible for us to understand it.

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  4 года назад +5

      Yes exactly! That's basically the main problem in philosophy of mind. David Chalmers's book, The Conscious Mind, is a great starting point.

  • @jdddyyy1
    @jdddyyy1 3 месяца назад +1

    Isn't this just describing qi or karma, etc? Or am i not getting it right?

  • @BigTrappaBenzo
    @BigTrappaBenzo 3 года назад +12

    Maybe dust is the universes consciousness

  • @FoxBatKing
    @FoxBatKing 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for the incredible video and investigation of His Dark Materials!
    Brought to light new ideas regarding Dust and Consciousness.
    Really great to hear your ideas and I appreciate you delving into such a glorious series 🙏🥳

  • @bingbongtoysKY
    @bingbongtoysKY Год назад

    FANTASTIC 🎉❤!!!

  • @luciacioara
    @luciacioara 2 года назад +1

    Always thought of the dust as stardust - cosmic light particles or waves ( ;) ) that are the essence of life and consciousness. There are the atoms and sub-sub-sub particles that we are made of and that carry, of course, information. Some sub-particles or bites of DNA. Our "software" as sentient beings.

    • @thegoodwitchluzura
      @thegoodwitchluzura Год назад +1

      Dust in Will's world (our world) is dark matter, not stardust.

  • @jinzokrim9979
    @jinzokrim9979 3 года назад +2

    Maybe Dust is not the absolute consciousness as described by "panpsychism" but rather the "I" consciousness that allow free will

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  3 года назад +1

      Maybe! In that case, what would make one “I” (you, say) different from another (me)?

    • @jinzokrim9979
      @jinzokrim9979 3 года назад +1

      @@AtticPhilosophy I see your point , and yes I agree that all "I" come from the same sources like waves come from the ocean but what make the difference is the "experience" of each "I" , maybe Dust represent the collective memory that contain every feeling every emotion every experience maybe Dust is the way that the universe "consciousness" use to learn from it's singular experience ? What do you think about it ?

    • @SD-li9g
      @SD-li9g 2 года назад +1

      there's an invisible ring that circles the earth, its a conscious thief

  • @mcnaugha
    @mcnaugha 2 года назад

    For me, dust is analogous to the electrons and other charged particles that makes and connects us all and everything in the Universe to one another, as per the Electric Universe theories. Although His Dark Materials is based on a multiverse which doesn’t exist under an Electric Universe.
    Consciousness may be contained within or stem from the interstellar and intergalactic electrical currents. If we didn’t have the electricity in our brains, we wouldn’t be alive, let alone conscious. We are electromagnetic. Everything is electromagnetic and that’s all.

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  2 года назад +1

      Well, batteries and magnets are electromagnetic but aren’t conscious. Electric Universe theory seems to bear the hallmarks of pseudoscience.

    • @mcnaugha
      @mcnaugha 2 года назад

      @@AtticPhilosophy On the EU, Not really. That’s just a bully/troll used by those that don’t understand it and are happy to keep drinking their kool-aid and taking those blue pills.
      I thought you were maybe a real philosopher but that’s not the response of a real philosopher. Maybe a pseudo-philosopher.

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  2 года назад

      @@mcnaugha OK cool, always happy to learn, link me some published papers on it & I'll take a look over the break.

    • @mcnaugha
      @mcnaugha 2 года назад

      @@AtticPhilosophy For the curious and open-minded comment reader… this is another troll. They have a series of barriers they think they can use to beat us down. The trouble is, you don’t have to have alternative theories to find the evidence that questions even the peer review system which is just another form of control and suppression of ideas that don’t fit in with what “the Kool kids” believe at the moment. It’s just a shield that I believe one day will collapse. The EU folk have many papers that they refuse to publish because they challenge doctrine/dogma.
      Almost anything that calls into question, theories supported by the most famous physicists must be shut down. It’s effectively the Magisterium. 🤣 No real scientist can’t see this. My favourite mainstream scientist and challenger of many issues with consensus science is Sabine Hossenfelder. For me she forms the very foundation of my questioning because she’s in there with the kool kids and is challenging them as much as she can whilst they’re not banishing her.
      The next one usually used is “there’s no math for that”. Oh yes there is but again it’s only allowed to count if it’s been peer reviewed, I.e. accepted by the “popular kids”. Plus let’s remember that the biggest issue we have just now is that math has become God or perhaps dust would be the best allegory here. Apparently anything math can do, physical reality can do too. 🤣 It’s a frickin’ video game they’re playing. That’s all a video game is. Math. Math can do many things but it doesn’t guarantee it’s real.
      When you can open your eyes, you can see so easily how everything is built on a house of cards. Almost every cornerstone of consensus science is flawed and observations have cherry-picked data. Every so-called great discover of the last decade or two, has some serious flaws that are covered-up/suppressed/kept quiet. There’s always an excuse for it all too.
      For the most consensus challenging papers that have managed to get peer reviewed, you’d check out the Sky Scholar channel. His videos are packed with paper references that have been peer reviewed and referenced many times. His focus is on proving the mainstream model of the Sun is wrong.

  • @robertworton2394
    @robertworton2394 9 месяцев назад +1

    In Dune its spice

  • @beatricesanfilippo6925
    @beatricesanfilippo6925 Год назад

    Dust show us the sexuality in his dark materials and After She saw the couple making sex, She creates a Daimon in a form of Animal becoming a soul :)

  • @truthBtold99
    @truthBtold99 3 года назад +3

    Dust is real... I have seen and felt it.... golden rain..

  • @IvanKinkle
    @IvanKinkle 10 месяцев назад

    Midichlorians?

  • @medlife1213
    @medlife1213 Год назад

    This series concept is very similar to holy Quran some chapters and Verses you can research on it most of things are copied from holy Quran verses

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  Год назад

      Yes maybe, except His Dark Materials is explicitly anti-organised religion!

  • @nullevolent2147
    @nullevolent2147 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the great video and most beautiful explanation on Dust philosophy. But.. Next time please look at us (the audience) in the eye, or at least try have an eye contact here and then... It is as if you were rehearsing scripts somewhere in your own worlds, while we (the audience) are somewhat an invisible angels / a Watcher in which you were not aware of... LoL~ Wuteva it is, you are still great tho😁 Take care and all the best 👍

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  2 года назад +1

      I am! What’s putting you off it the lighting, reflected in the corner of my eye. Point taken, it’s distracting!

  • @robertworton2394
    @robertworton2394 9 месяцев назад

    Adrenachrome, this show is satanic