Hard Problem of Consciousness - David Chalmers
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2016
- Philosopher David Chalmers from NYU on the combination problem, dualism, and panpsychism.
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A brain watching another brain wondering about consciousness, and another brains in the comment making jokes and wondering as well
I took an existentialism class at ohio state like 7 years ago and stumbled upon David Chalmers, dude is a legend haha. Weird that he brought up panpsychism at the end too, since I have been thinking about it a lot recently. I study biochemistry and we often talk about proteins as if they have human characteristics, they "breathe", they decide what things need to be done based on an accumulation of physical forces etc, which in turn are governed by their own laws that one could say resembles a choice-making criteria.
David Chalmers is one of the greatest thinkers of our times.
The answer is 42.
David Chalmers is a modern day genius who is far ahead of his time. Despite his high level of though, it is still easy to listen to him and absorb exactly what he is saying. Unlike many others, he seems to be able to clearly express complex ideas.
This is the best discussion I have come across discussing consciousness and subjective experiences in the brain.
David rocks! As Artificial Intelligence rises exponentially, the questions David puts forward related to subjective experience and consciousness will become extremely important to find good answers for.
I've always wondered and even asked myself a similar idea of what thing allows us to experience this "movie" of reality through vessels of organic beings - yatta yatta. I'm just so glad I found this dude and panpsychism recently - mountains of existential dread lifted off my chest, even if despite the lack of "real" answers
such wonderful explanation about complex mechanisms 👍
I like to think the relationship between physical and spiritual consciousness is like a and its driver. A car can function as a car but need a driver to function as to achieve what it is made to do.
Is understanding consciousness held back because we are ourselves conscious agents? So it's consciousnesses trying to understand itself? We lack the external vantage point, outside of consciousness to see it for what it is. Is this necessarily limiting?
Thanks Dr. Chalmers
Thank you Sir 🙏
I always think that those denying there even is a hard problem, are perhaps afraid to pass a certain threshold. Really seeing the hard problem is deeply shocking. One might get very well nauseous from it.
Chalmers' argument about philosophical zombies is brilliant. One other argument I thought can be made against physicalism is that if you are a physicalist then you have to argue that consciousness is a process created by matter by itself. If consciousness is a material phenomenon then it should have effects in nature, just like gravity leads to planets by attraction of matter. But what effects do consciousness create in nature? Since we can't find any from a material view, it must be unique among the natural phenomena in nature, but since all phenomena in nature has readily seen effects, consciousness having no effect from a physical standpoint, can not be a physical phenomenon.
From my perspective the problem is most people dont understand the difference between "Consciousness Awareness" the Knowing or Awareness of experience, timeless and infinite, never started, never stops, and the "Content of Consciousness" being thoughts, sensations and perceptions, objects we are aware of, which indeed is an emergent phenomena, a bain process, information processing etc etc.
I agree with Chalmers on a number of important points. He is to be congratulated on formulating the 'hard problem' in so succinct a manner, which makes it easier for science to get a grip on the issue.
A question for materialists: What is the evolutionary purpose of subjective experience if p-zombies are just as good at survival as conscious humans?
subjective experience is needed for organism survival and it has a direct evolutionary advantage: if a life threatening fact is happening to an orgasim that experience it more vividly, that makes it more likely that organism is more energized to work towards a solution to solve that particular predicament.
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