Is there a distinction between type and token functionalism? Like, pain (the type) is a certain functional type vs pain1 is functional state 1, but pain2 is functional state 2. edit: I'm imagining that this distinction is not the same as the usual type vs token identity distinction
Great question! Functional roles are usually picked out at the level of properties, so they concern types, not tokens. There is a distinction between role and realizer functionalism: role functionalism identities the property PAIN with the relevant functional role. Realizer functionalism identifies the property PAIN with whatever realizes that role (C-fibers firing or whatever). That’s a bit similar but not the same as type/token.
Super interesting. You made me hungry for diving deeper in the subject. I bet (unprofessional guess) The ultimate function is to reproduce in an energy efficient matter as possible. Analized from our stored life experience.
Well, take pain, for example. It wouldn’t be pain unless it felt like pain. Not all mental states have a “feel” - believing something doesn’t. But many do.
@@AtticPhilosophy if some "mental states" don't have a "feel" how do we know they exist?thats maybe a silly question but im just a layman. :)Also can something have a "feel" but no mental state for example the feeling of your toes touching each other or the feeling of your clothes on your body. Do these feelings only become mental states when we become aware of them? When do they become an input?
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Thanks! Glad they’ve been useful.
Very well done. Thank you.
Did any philosopher discussed about functionalism?
Is there a distinction between type and token functionalism? Like, pain (the type) is a certain functional type vs pain1 is functional state 1, but pain2 is functional state 2.
edit: I'm imagining that this distinction is not the same as the usual type vs token identity distinction
Great question! Functional roles are usually picked out at the level of properties, so they concern types, not tokens. There is a distinction between role and realizer functionalism: role functionalism identities the property PAIN with the relevant functional role. Realizer functionalism identifies the property PAIN with whatever realizes that role (C-fibers firing or whatever). That’s a bit similar but not the same as type/token.
@@AtticPhilosophy thanks for the reply, this clears up a lot!
Super interesting. You made me hungry for diving deeper in the subject.
I bet (unprofessional guess) The ultimate function is to reproduce in an energy efficient matter as possible. Analized from our stored life experience.
Thanks! Usually the aim is to fit functions to observed phenomena, rather than evaluating which functions would be better than others.
why would so called “mental states” feel like something at all? That’s the question:)
Well, take pain, for example. It wouldn’t be pain unless it felt like pain. Not all mental states have a “feel” - believing something doesn’t. But many do.
@@AtticPhilosophy if some "mental states" don't have a "feel" how do we know they exist?thats maybe a silly question but im just a layman. :)Also can something have a "feel" but no mental state for example the feeling of your toes touching each other or the feeling of your clothes on your body. Do these feelings only become mental states when we become aware of them? When do they become an input?