They asked RDJ years later and he said people were so mad at Ben stillers character playing a mentally handicap person that they ignored him doing blackface lol
@@Digger-Nick yeah seriously, i think half these Hollywood people have a gu to the back of their head to still be supporting democRATS that are they live in a bubble and leave the house with blindfolds on
No one gives that little boy who played the drug King pin (Brandon Soo Hoo) some props! 😂 He freaking killed it, especially as a little kid. His energy is matched with all the other big stars, which is not an easy thing to do for a young kid.
The only thing funnier than this movie is it's commentary track. RDJ stays in character throughout the commentary and even changes in synch with the changes on screen...he's hilarious.
This movie was actually a sarcastic satire on Hollywood culture 😂. They were making fun of all the fucked up shit that's always gone on in the movie industry
No, it was racist, conservative white people cynically accusing progressive white people of being offended on behalf of Black people. No progressive white person has *ever* had a problem with this film. Simply because, *IT IS NOT BLACKFACE* . And educated, progressive people understand that. Conservatives on the other hand.... little wobbly with logic.
Facts, I’m full blooded Comanche and nobody in my family gave a shit about the Cleveland Indians or Washington Redskins. 95% of that outrage came from woke white Karens 😆
Except that didn't happen that way. The only people that are offended are younger folk now (not just white kids) that didn't realize that the whole point was that it was a comment on movies constantly featuring white people playing roles of other ethnicities. The entire comment being made is a progressive one. White people playing roles of other ethnicities happened a lot in the past so if you are young, dumb, and unaware of movie history you may not get the context.
Tom Cruise came back strong after this movie. He was not advertised in the trailers leading up to the release, so it was a surprise cameo that was the icing on the cake.
@@clearsmashdrop5829 Same thing happened to me when I watched it the first time. When I found out it was Tom Cruise, I had to start the movie over and watch it again lol
Actually, Tom Cruise wanted to star as Tugg Speedman, but Ben Stiller wouldn't back down, so Tom agreed to do any role that wasn't filled yet because he loved the script. However, Ben didn't have any parts left, so Tom pitched Les Grossman's character as an idea, and the rest is history.
no you are confusing it with 'All-Star Weekend' where Jamie foxx who directed it, convinces RDJ to play a Mexican. It hasn't been released i think due to that very reason.
@ i also just asked chatgpt in all its wisdom to find anytrhing and it couldnt either.... " There is no evidence to suggest that Jamie Foxx encouraged Robert Downey Jr. to play the character of Kirk Lazarus in "Tropic Thunder" (2008). Downey Jr. took on the role independently, portraying an Australian method actor who undergoes a controversial pigmentation alteration to play an African American character. This portrayal sparked discussions about the use of blackface in film. However, Jamie Foxx did play a role in convincing Robert Downey Jr. to portray a Mexican character in the unreleased film "All-Star Weekend". Foxx recounted that he called Downey Jr. and said, "I need you to play a Mexican." Downey Jr. expressed some hesitation, to which Foxx responded, "St, you played the Black dude [in 'Tropic Thunder'] and you killed that st."
@@Alex-jr8fs Theres a whole video on Joe Rogans podcast with Jamie and he talks about it there. Chat GPT doesn't and is not an actual source of good information. Stop arguing with humans.
This actually wasnt "after" Iron Man. RDJ did filming for both Iron Man and Tropic Thunder at relatively the same time and released in 2008 3-ish months apart, May and August. There was no expectation from anyone that the MCU would turn into something enormous and Iron Man was the kickstart of all that so it was "Alright im doing this Iron Man thing maybe it'll get a sequel, but Stiller is working on this really funny script I'm gonna hop on that"
@@serenitymuszings Sherlock Holmes and Game of Shadows was the absolute bomb. I hope they get out of production hell so the third one can come out soon
You entirely missed his point. He wasn't referring to this movie. He was referring to the fake trailer at the beginning. He was saying that the Oscar bait movie was like RDJ after Iron Man doing Oppenheimer.
RDJ's career was in real trouble at this point. He went to prison for drugs a couple of times, and he couldn't get parts in major films because no one would insure him.
At no point in time when this came out was anyone mad about RDJ playing a fake black guy. When my unit was deployed tropic thunder was one of our favorite movies to watch when we werent on mission. Half my platoon was black and they spent the entire 15 months quoting RDJs lines almost nonstop.
I had just recently redeployed Stateside from Iraq and ETS when this move came out 11b Infantry They made the best movies back then We got a lot of bootlegs from the haji Mart
You can't complain about the movie's length and then say they should have shown things like Matthew McConaughey traveling to the set. The whole point of him popping up like that was SUPPOSED to be a surprise because they try to make you think he's taking the money.
And then in the credits montage you see him returning to the US in his private jet, which was the reveal that he did take the bribes but then used it to get the TiVo to Tugg per the contract, and rescue him just because he's a real dedicated agent. This was back when there was additional material during and/or after the credits (as originally done in Ferris Bueller's Day Off in 1986).
@@SosaBoii-t1c I hate that they minimize the credits and immediately start trying to shove you into the next thing. Aside from any bonus content, I like seeing who made the movie. Or like the song that's playing over them.
Yup! And I'm certain he would have won Best Supporting Actor had the late, great Heath Ledger not played The Joker in "The Dark Knight" so brilliantly, that year. RDJ was that good.
The reason no one was angry is that anything "offensive" in the movie was played that way on purpose to make fun of it as part of the satire. That's what satire is all about. That behavior wasn't being glorified, it was being mocked, and that's what makes it so funny.
I remember when they were doing the making of the movie they were mentioning how Hollywood would whitewash minority roles throughout cinema history? Anything from Mickey Rooney, playing an Asian from breakfast at Tiffany’s., A Westside Story, Othello, Genghis Kong. There is a long list. Actually it’s still continues to this day with films like exodus, Argo, the Prince of Persia James Franco now playing Fidel Castro lol, And the whole point was to show how ridiculous and wrong it is for a white person to a minority . I think a lot of it is fake outrage for people who have either never seen the movie or can’t comprehend it or other people just stirring up crap.
@@lissaC.W. Fidel Castro was white. I don't see how James Franco playing him would be wrong. Is only a fellow cuban allowed to play a cuban? Why? Can an American not play a frenchman, because they are not French?
@@stormveil yeah he’s still only 1/4 Portuguese. It’s only his surname he identifies as an American Jew.. even though he knows they’re not a race. We’re in an ethnic background. He has no ancestry of that. But if they want to cast that’s up to the producer Director, like I said, I’m a libertarian and it their choice most people see Franco is an American Jew so it’s gonna kind of pull them out of the story in my opinion, but who knows you might nail the part Argo one of my favorite films and Ben Affleck plays as a Latino. I just think it’s a little hypocritical, though when the little mermaid comes out and the other side starts flipping her crap when we’ve got had had to get used to white actors playing minorities, especially Latinos of Brown skin in their place. You should know in the industry people with brown skin or darker. It is more difficult for them to grab roles. That is just a fact I know I worked behind scenes for years. I have friends who are actors from different backgrounds, especially the casting department I used for four years,. a lot of calls are going to go to white actors. It’s just a fact of life so when there’s an opportunity for a brown skin Latino to play a role yeah it would’ve been nice for that character to actually match the actor. Like they recently did when when they made “society of the Snow” really put that movie over the edge was Director’s dedication of only getting Uruguay or Chilean actors playing light skin Latinos. He didn’t have to do that. He could’ve gotten Americans, but he went the extra mile because he knows Latinos. We have a culture behind it into really understand it. You gotta almost live through it. An average American playing a Cuban. In a movie that’s supposed to be based on a true historical figure, just goofy . it pulls you out of the story and fair argument with the little mermaid too. I agree it could pull you out of the story, but can you imagine if we flipped out as much as much as white people do? lol more relaxed about it, even though our opportunities are slimmer yeah you might hear some voices speak out about it, but from majority of the part, we let the crap slide and we move on. And this is where I find it pretty comical because the same people who hate the fact that a biracial girls playing the little mermaid tried to make the same argument that it’s absolutely fine for James Franco to play Fidel Castro. We can complain about that at all… do you not see the hypocrisy right there?! 😆 So why we didn’t hear anyone complain about tiger Lily being played by a white girl in the movie “pan” ? Because Native Americans have more important important issues to deal with. However white people were flipping out when they heard the movie “Wendy and Peter” that Tinker Bell was played by a biracial girl. And like I said, those films are fictional. Films are not even biopic that’s why the whole tropic thunder film was hilarious because it’s supposed to be based on the biopic and instead of getting an actual African-American to play a role again, Australian, pretending to be an African-American that what Hollywood has done for years. Robert Downey Jr. Said it the best it is to show how wrong it is when Hollywood Pulls this kind of crap. So like I said if you wanted to defend James Franco because he happens to have a sir Spanish name, even though he’s 1/4 of it yet he has no background whatsoever with Latinos then go ahead. Then I’m just saying that why people shouldn’t be hypocrites when it comes to minority a fictional characters even if those fictional characters have known to be of light skin in the past, it’s still fictional. Those roles should actually be up for grabs. I’m not completely closed minded to Franco playing I’m gonna throw a hissy fit not watch . I personally will watch it and give it a fair chance. He might actually nail it. For comedies or fiction I really don’t care. Who plays that should be up to the producer and Directors imagination. For bio pics, however, It’s hard for me to picture him in that role pulls me out of the storyline. It would be just as goofy as a person of color was playing Abraham Lincoln. That’s how majority of minorities see it when they look at white American playing a role that maybe should’ve gone to someone else. EDIT getting a little sensitive over there.😆 dude I’m also half Jewish my dad’s Jewish, lol I was saying that specifically because there are Jewish Latinos in countries like Cuba Argentina Columbia etc. Like I said Latinos are an ethnic group .. 🤦🏽♀️
@@lissaC.W. So your problem is that Franco doesn't identify with his latino side? And 25% isn't enough Latino for you? How much is enough latino? How do you deal with people with less latin ancestry but call themselves Latino? Those of Asian or African ancestry? People are told to go represent but then when they do they are told they're "not latino enough" - very divisive rhetoric. Btw do you have a problem with Jews? Also the film is going to be about Alina - Fidel's daughter.
You guys must see the Holy Grail of Satire comedy, " BLAZING SADDLES ." Non-stop jokes from every angle. Mel Brooks ( Director/Producer) is a genius !!!
I was born in 1999, When I seen blazing saddles about a year ago, I was so shocked and surprised at how hilarious Blazing Saddles was. Honestly wish more people my age knew about it!
My parents are in their 60's and 70's and they were laughing so hard at this movie in the theater that tears were coming out of their eyes. " Gets excited about my foods now!" 😂
Robert Downey Jr. When first approached with this role said: " Hell No!!!" He told several of his black friends about the role, they read the script, and told him he should do it. Downey realized that he could make a satire about Method Acting.
This movie is GOATED, truly an instant classic 🤘🏽 So many good people are in this thing and RDJ totally killed it. They don’t make shit like this anymore 😆
RDJ has said that he has never had anyone get mad at him for doing this movie, and I think I know why. Well, first, because it's freaking funny. But second, because he does NOT play a black guy. He plays a white guy...who plays a black guy. And his commitment to the role is amazing.
I don’t remember anyone complaining about black face in Tropic Thunder back then, even now you’d think it would be retrospectively cancelled but it hasn’t been
Some overly sensitive snowflakes, all white people got offended at the movie and RDJ at the time (and still do) being in black face. Because they're too stupid to realize the movie was making fun of and calling out Hollywood's history of whitewashing.
That's mostly because it's not 'black face' as that term is used in modern society, the only target of this depiction was the overblown actors that take themselves too seriously with method acting, it was not directed at a race as an insult or disparaging toward a people like some have done in the past. Beyond that RDJ was so freakin' hilarious in this (and convincing honestly) that every reaction channel I've seen or people in my life that are black ALL of them love this role, they get it.
Because we live on this trendy social media bandwaggon of saying that nowadays everything gets cancelled. When that's more a youtuber grifter's thing to get views. And of course people just read the headline and screw the context. I've even seen people claim this movie was cancelled back then and it was super-outrageous. lol All lies to sell. Same with so many shows nowadays people complain before they air because they saw some pictures of the set and immediately jumped to the clickbait. They know anger and outrage sells. Funny they go silent soon the show becomes a success and nobody tries to cancel it like they claim in most grifter's videos/social media/whatever.
Maaan 04-2012ish had some of the funniest movies of ALL TIME. Superbad, tropic thunder, 40 year old virgin, semi pro, step brothers, taledega nights, dodgeball, this is the end, lottery ticket, anchorman, Pineapple Express, etc.
Some of the inside jokes were not as obvious but us older folks could appreciate them. Nick Nolte's character was a parody of Martin Sheen in Apocolypse Now. Which was indeed based on a book that changed SO much of the source material that it was barely the same story, lol. Tropic Thunder is brilliant satire...for the ages 😂
are you sure about that? in my opinion Nolte's role wants to be a sort of parody of Oliver Stone, who was in Vietnam as a young man and filmed "Platoon" as a director
I mean, I could see the Oliver Stone scenario, as well ... I suppose I go with the Apocalypse Now satire because it was actually based on the book Heart of Darkness and if I'm not mistaken I thought in the Tropic Thunder universe the film was based on Nolte's character's book. But the Oliver Stone/Platoon theory holds weight too 😅
They definitely knew they were being edgy and controversial with their jokes and premises. Retard was definitely not cool back then, and RDJ with blackface was satire about Hollywood whitewashing and not being racially diverse enough. I do agree, that they would probably have a hard time making it today. It is the 2000’s version of Blazing Saddles.
@@pleutron1 - "wokesters" didn't exist in 2007, and I'd bet my house you weren't talking about it back then 2 - they are not making fun of cancellers, progressives and/or sensitive people, on the contrary, so in what sense would they be making fun of the "wokesters"?
@@pleutron So are you saying they are presenting the RDJ character as a great serious actor who is really stretching his art here by playing a Black character? Sorry to break it to you, but we are supposed to be laughing at that character. And maybe you, as well.
2000's was the golden age for comedies, Bad Santa being my favorite 92 million budget for this movie is insane; we'll never see a comedy with a budget like that again
@@busimagen It's hard to judge eras objectively. Vulgarity could only be pushed so far until 2000's, then you could pretty much do whatever you want. And I personally love vulgarity, so I'm partial to 2000's comedy when the doors were wide open for it. 2010's has no excuse, they just got objectively worse after like 2014ish. Would be interesting to see boxoffice sales and how many they made in each decade
A lot of people forget that Tom Cruise was nominated for a Golden Globe for his role in this movie. IMO, “There’s Something About Mary” is the funniest. Also with Ben Stiller.
Ben Stiller has been in stuff since the 80s, but his Era began with There's Something About Mary (1998) $370M box office on $23M budget. Third movie for the Farrelly Brothers after Dumb and Dumber and Kingpin.
I think the biggest reason why this movie "gets away" with black-face is because it's clearly regarded as offensive within the movie whereas older movies with black-face are simply just making fun of black people. This isn't making fun of black people, it's making fun of over-the-top method-actors. The fact that RDJ "Cooks as a black man" just sells it even more, lol. I feel like every few years, people come out and try and cancel this movie, but it's usually people who haven't actually watched the film.
Exactly. Just like "Don't look up" had some things that supposedly should make it "cancelable" but still it wasn't. The whole cancel culture schtick is just a grifter's thing, people just end up following the trend.
I only just realized (and this is like the 15th reaction video of this movie I've seen), that the other nominees for the best actor oscar that Tugg wins are people playing "disability roles" like Simple Jack. On either side of the photo of Tugg's "Four-Leaf," character are someone in a wheelchair and someone apparently blind in dark glasses reading Braille. I never caught that joke!
The movie was a bit longer because it is a parody of Hollywood, so they needed the time to close it properly. It was not about comedy or action as it was about parodying the industry.
They got away with it because comedy was a way to offend everyone and the world just laughed hysterically at it. Somewhere, someone got the notion to be offended and it spread like the plague
It is blowing my mind right now realizing this was 17 years ago. I remember watching it on theaters thinking, "How did they pull this off?" Black face had been a no go well before 2008. It was the self awareness I think.
Jack Black's character is based on people like Chris Farley who were comedy guys who had some personal demons and were heavy drug users. Celebrities who are kind of out of control with the drugs used to be pretty common in Hollywood but it's something you don't see nearly as much anymore, it seems like the community and the companies kind of wised up and started avoiding those kinds of problems.
Downey filmed Iron Man in March-June 2007, then went straight to filming Tropic Thunder in July-September 2007. It truly was an epic one-two punch for him. He became the foundational and focal character for the MCU for the next ten years and he got numerous nominations for his acting in Tropic Thunder.
Forbidden language is the cornerstone of comedy. So…look on the bright side: the more uptight we get as a society, the greater the opportunity to tickle the sensitivity of said society! This movie has and will continue to appreciate in value.
nah, the tivo intercepting the rocket was how Hollywood lives and dies on holding up contracts, Speedman's contractually obligated DVR. The way dude runs off into the jungle afterwards makes it 100 times funnier
My favorite part about this movie is that it just proves the "woke mob" doesn't exist, it's just political fear tactics. Nobody is offended by this movie because like you said, it was genuine.
Don't worry, people will still claim woke culture exists and 'you can't say anything anymore' in a world where the likes of this movie and South Park exists. People *_love_* the idea that they're being persecuted by people they disagree with politically. There's nothing people enjoy more than feeling like a victim without any of the downsides of _actually being victimised_ 😂
@@laserpanda94The "mob" may not exist, but you can't deny that Disney has very "biased" behaviors, first comes the ideology, then they think about the script and good ideas
@@futrecacao The reality of that is actually way more cynical than culture war. It's 100% about money. Don't confuse the Disney corporation with an entity that holds authentic beliefs lol
Even the people who talk crap on social media Are few and far between, and when you point out that the film is mocking those trends in Hollywood They look the fool.
I was in high school in the States when this movie came out and 10 of our friends went to see this movie... I had never laughed so hard and seen people laugh so hard in the theater ever and i haven't since then. Every character was simply perfect let alone Tom Cuise who just killed it
Awesome analysis, you guys did a great job. I didn’t watch it when it first came out, I feel like it became a cult classic. Still quote this movie til this day. “I don’t read the script, the script reads me”. 😂 Subscribed!
I remember when the movie came out people loved it, I don't remember anyone being offended. Everyone understood that it's the character who's doing blackface not RDJ himself to fit a role that's not for him. It's only recently that people were tryna make a big deal out of it. The movie is making a hilarious commentary on the issue, an actual black character in the movie is calling it out.
I will say something about the whole "They can't make that today." At the time this movie came out they would have said the same thing about Blazing Saddles or whatever. The about pushing boundaries with comedy is that if it's FUNNY and from a place of honesty in terms of looking at society it is ALWAYS OK, because it's good. People still talk about good comedy and art and still watch it, without shame, but shitty comedy that is cheap and from a place of ignorance and/or racism is not still talked about positively. There is a lot crap from the past and honestly recent times that fall into that.
Guys, watching this in the theater opening week was an absolute experience. I snuck in with 2 friends when we were 15. It was the wildest thing we had ever seen 😂
I love y'all's energy and commentary. You are both knowledgeable and willing to look things up to talk about, and I enjoyed your reaction to one of my favorite comedies. I was impressed at how you were able to think from the perspective of the news and current events of the time when the movie came out.
I know you guys get it, but I wanted to say that the question isn't "How did they get away with this?", the question is "What changed that made it so movies can't do this today?" Put that in your pipe and smoke it! Comedy didn't change, people changed their attitudes to be hateful, judgmental, discriminatory, more than I'd ever seen in my life over the 2010s. Comedy is always going to be comedy, and there's no shame in that. Nobody is trying to hurt anybody. When people start getting all self-righteous and controlling, assuming an authoritative position because they choose to believe that something hurts an imaginary victim in their minds, that's crossing the line - and it's been crossed a thousand times over the last ten years. This film pre-dates social justice warriors and political correctness, and that's why it's so good. We could have more films just like it, if the SJWs and PCs would just give up the fight already. If the SJWs and PCs were right, this film would've gotten cancelled a decade ago - deleted from the face of the planet.
Yeah, you missed the point on this a little. It wasn't a movie "of it's time" where people just "talked the way they talked" and it absolutely could be made today. This is a Satire of Hollywood period. Saying Retarded that much wasn't how people talked then, they were making fun of method actors, and highlighting how tone deaf they could be. That was also the point of RDJ's blackface. If anything, the left loves this movie BECAUSE it highlighted hypocrisy in the industry.
Retarded was a common word in every day speech. It was just another word for stupid but wasn't considered bad unless you were targeting someone with it. It hadn't become a no no word at that point.
@@ruthsaunders9507 What are you talking about? "Retarded" was not a common word, and would immediately be corrected if overheard by most adults. Whether intentional or not, it is a mock to the disabled community. Unless you are using the formal meaning of the word, it has always been offensive. The formal use of "retard" was also dated (meaning rarely used) at this point, though not offensive. It also has a different pronunciation. Either you had your head in the sand or you're pushing propaganda.
In the movie, RDJ says he doesn't drop character until after he does DVD commentary. And he did do the DVD commentary in character. I saw this in theaters. Everyone knew it was RDJ. It was advertised, and no one was mad. Just different times, I guess. No one knew Tom Cruise was in it! Tom read the script and thought of that character himself. Ben Stiller was the writer, so he wrote in the character based on Tom's ideas and Tom disguised his own costume, down to the hairy hands, the fat suit and the dancing lol. I laughed my behind off in the theater. Great reaction!
I gotta say this might be the best reaction video I’ve seen for this movie. Most reaction vids are just people bursting out laughing or reacting in shock but you guys show a level of media criticism and analysis that most people don’t.
I recommend you 🔥 *There's Something About Mary* (1998) _starring _*_Ben Stiller_*_ & _*_Cameron Diaz_*
🔥 *Bowfinger* (1999) _starring Steve Martin & Eddie Murphy_ 🔥 *Me, Myself & Irene* (2000) _starring _*_Jim Carrey_*_ & _*_Renée Zellweger_* 🔥 *Dumb and Dumber* (1994) _starring _*_Jim Carrey_*_ & _*_Jeff Daniels_* *_solution to c0piright issues_* IMAGE EDITION : - Edit the movie with partial % of transparency (and/or text) - Flip the movie scene from Right to Left. - Keep your reaction on full screen (If the scenes of the movie take up less space on the screen and are edited, they can avoid the 4lg0rithm much easier) AUDIO EDITION : - Put the volume of the movie lower than the volume of your microphone(not too low). (Statics, White noise & your comments , make little distortion to the audio) - Record the audio of your reaction separately from the audio of the movie, that way you can mute/edit the audio/image of the movie without muting/editing the audio/image of your reaction. ,
If you think for a minute that "he didn't know better" when they made _Tropic Thunder_, just look the criticism _There's Something About Mary_ drew for essentially the same humor back in the 90's. I always figured a lot of _Tropic Thunder_ was Ben Stiller stewing in the criticism of the earlier movie and saying, "Well, if you thought that was offensive..."
Blazing Saddles is the GOAT of comedies, but this is a very close second and The Hangover comes in 3rd. It looks like you guys need to react to both Blazing Saddles and The Hangover. Dodgeball is great too.
I watched it in theaters opening weekend. I was in tech school in the air force so didn't know anything about it. But when those trailers hit I was on the floor in tears from laughing so much
2:25 I watched this in theaters, was late to the movie bc of a phone call. I was so confused by these trailers. I had no idea why they were calling the actors the wrong names.
You may know that RDJ did the audio commentary in character for the dvd, like he says in the movie. ( "I stay in character until the audio commentary is done.") But it gets even better! They shot a fake "documentary" about the making off, of the Vietnam War movie that they´re shooting, in the style of a Werner Herzog documentary, which was included on the dvd bonus section. It´s presented by script writer Justin Theroux, playing "acclaimed German documentary film maker Jan Juergen", complete with a fake German accent, fake interviews with Tug Speedman, Kirk Lazarus & "director" Damian Cockburn. They even show how RDJ´s Kirk Lazarus is getting into character. You can find it on youtube, it´s called "Rain of Madness" and hilarious.
HOW THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT: #1. People were not offended and afraid of everything back then. People could laugh together at just funny things without being offended. #2. It wasn't "black face." To see what real "black face" was please look at minstrel shows from the 1930s when white men put very black make-up on their faces in a caricature style, mocking the appearance of black people and looking ridiculous. Robert Downy Jr.'s make-up is serious, professional make-up to make him legitimately appear as a black man, without mocking the race, for this role in this film. This cannot be compared to "black face" which was an intentional, racist mockery of the appearance of black people. As I said, look into minstrel shows from the 1930's and this point will become completely clear.
What changed was black people weren't told to be angry with this shit. I went to a "black movie theater" and people were laughing at him black facing so hard it made the movie that much better. Since then, a lot of races and the sexes were told to get angry at each other
I get what you guys are saying about they don’t make movies that are mean spirited or comedies that are punching down anymore, cause i think thats how some people see it and everyone’s afraid to be offensive. But I don’t think this movie even does that much punching down. Robert downy jr’s character is the butt of all the jokes, him being in black face make his desperation to lose himself in a role funnier. Same with Stillers Simple jack character. He’s the butt of the joke cause we all know he’s trying to be taken seriously as an actor and win an award for playing a disabled person because a lot of people have. But it’s that he does it so bad that makes it funny. I feel like we’re all laughing at him not disabled people
You guys saying THIS movie couldn't be made today proves you've never seen Blazing Saddles. Blazing Saddles is a movie written by a black man and a Jew and is THE GREATEST COMEDY MOVIE EVER!!!!!! The Black man was RICHARD PRYOR and the Jew was MEL BROOKS. Racism was made fun of in the 70's...LIKE IT SHOULD!!!!!!
The ending scene is just like the scene they were filming at the beginning. Except instead of tucker throwing up his hands to stop the rpg, his agent threw his tivo. Also, the agent character is constantly talking and fighting to get Tucker his stuff in his contract. He says something like, 'i'm gonna bring it to you myself' so it's not totally random that he pops out of the woods. The seed was planted beforehand.
Yeah..ppl are way sensitive today.. nobody had a problem with White chicks..that was pretty goofy..or Eddie Murphy doing a Jewish guy in coming to America.
I mean, people had a problem with white chicks It was bad. So bad it officially ended the Wayans brothers directing careers along with "Little Man" The only person who looked good and came out of that film strong was Terry Crews Whose performance is routinely cited as the best part of the film.
@@mckenzie.latham91 who did?..never heard anything about anybody having a problem w WC..and if ppl DID...GOOD.. because it was a shitty movie about BLK ppl making fun of white ppl.. INTENTIONALLY..and you won't convince me otherwise... at least RDJ NAILED IT by just letting the character be "himself" without TRYING to make the character look stupid...like they did in WC..at some point, making fun of the vast majority of the population will backfire on ya 😀 rightfully so.
It was shocking when I saw it in the theatre 😂 beautiful, hilarious and horrifying at the same time!! We take ourselves away to serious in the present ✌🏼
They asked RDJ years later and he said people were so mad at Ben stillers character playing a mentally handicap person that they ignored him doing blackface lol
That muh-muh makes me Happeee
@@SosaBoii-t1c Hahaha the Maria Menounas stuttering scene gets me every time too.
And now Stiller supports Kamala...
Insanity
@@Digger-Nick yeah seriously, i think half these Hollywood people have a gu to the back of their head to still be supporting democRATS that are they live in a bubble and leave the house with blindfolds on
@@Digger-Nickwho is he going to support an actual dotard in trump? 😂
The fact RDJ lost the Oscar to a real Australian doing white face (Heath Ledger - Joker) is something not even tropic thunder could've predicted 😂😂😂
I didn't realize that extra level there, nice.
Lmao
I did not get the irony of that moment till now holy shit!
No one gives that little boy who played the drug King pin (Brandon Soo Hoo) some props! 😂
He freaking killed it, especially as a little kid. His energy is matched with all the other big stars, which is not an easy thing to do for a young kid.
so true
yeah, that kid was great. i loved when he and the other guy were arguing with tom cruise over the phone, it was just... too funny
The only thing funnier than this movie is it's commentary track. RDJ stays in character throughout the commentary and even changes in synch with the changes on screen...he's hilarious.
The only movie I've ever watched with the commentary on, and it was worth it! 😂
its not it's
I used to drink too much, wait for Kim to go to bed and then watch the commentary with more vodka. I'm better now.
In the movie he says he doesn't break character until after the commentary. Then RDJ stays in character throughout the IRL commentary. Brilliant.
Well Jackson...there's also this:
ruclips.net/video/W4ubqCMsTo4/видео.htmlsi=LreYI_pat1U8df5_
This movie was actually a sarcastic satire on Hollywood culture 😂. They were making fun of all the fucked up shit that's always gone on in the movie industry
Hilarious because they left out all the worst stuff.
@@DiggitySlice How would you make a comedy about child rape?
like what? like hollywood always being a communist establishment?
Method ACTING Definitely
This, and I feel like they are not getting it.^^
The follow up "What do YOU mean 'You people'?" is one of the best things ever written m
That line made me lose it, I couldn't stop laughing...
Yes! Still quoted in my family all these years later 😂
that's my exact thought every time i watch this movie
The problem wasnt with the movie. It wasnt black people gettin mad either. The problem was with the white people being offended for black people.😂😂😂
So true!
..red, yellow and other rainbow...erh colours, right?
No, it was racist, conservative white people cynically accusing progressive white people of being offended on behalf of Black people. No progressive white person has *ever* had a problem with this film. Simply because, *IT IS NOT BLACKFACE* . And educated, progressive people understand that. Conservatives on the other hand.... little wobbly with logic.
Facts, I’m full blooded Comanche and nobody in my family gave a shit about the Cleveland Indians or Washington Redskins. 95% of that outrage came from woke white Karens 😆
Except that didn't happen that way. The only people that are offended are younger folk now (not just white kids) that didn't realize that the whole point was that it was a comment on movies constantly featuring white people playing roles of other ethnicities. The entire comment being made is a progressive one. White people playing roles of other ethnicities happened a lot in the past so if you are young, dumb, and unaware of movie history you may not get the context.
Tom Cruise came back strong after this movie. He was not advertised in the trailers leading up to the release, so it was a surprise cameo that was the icing on the cake.
I didnt recognize him until the credits rolled.
@@clearsmashdrop5829 Same thing happened to me when I watched it the first time. When I found out it was Tom Cruise, I had to start the movie over and watch it again lol
@@clearsmashdrop5829me too!!!! 😂😂😂😂 In the theater and didn't realize it was him
Actually, Tom Cruise wanted to star as Tugg Speedman, but Ben Stiller wouldn't back down, so Tom agreed to do any role that wasn't filled yet because he loved the script. However, Ben didn't have any parts left, so Tom pitched Les Grossman's character as an idea, and the rest is history.
@@ErebosGR no way! I had no idea. That’s awesome!
RDJ had Jamie Fox read the script. Jamie told RDJ he had to play this character.
this is a fact..
no you are confusing it with 'All-Star Weekend' where Jamie foxx who directed it, convinces RDJ to play a Mexican. It hasn't been released i think due to that very reason.
@ Nope. Jamie was specifically talking in an interview about RDJ and reading the script for Tropic Thunder. Never even heard of All Star Weekend.
@ i also just asked chatgpt in all its wisdom to find anytrhing and it couldnt either....
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There is no evidence to suggest that Jamie Foxx encouraged Robert Downey Jr. to play the character of Kirk Lazarus in "Tropic Thunder" (2008). Downey Jr. took on the role independently, portraying an Australian method actor who undergoes a controversial pigmentation alteration to play an African American character. This portrayal sparked discussions about the use of blackface in film.
However, Jamie Foxx did play a role in convincing Robert Downey Jr. to portray a Mexican character in the unreleased film "All-Star Weekend". Foxx recounted that he called Downey Jr. and said, "I need you to play a Mexican." Downey Jr. expressed some hesitation, to which Foxx responded, "St, you played the Black dude [in 'Tropic Thunder'] and you killed that st."
@@Alex-jr8fs Theres a whole video on Joe Rogans podcast with Jamie and he talks about it there. Chat GPT doesn't and is not an actual source of good information. Stop arguing with humans.
The year is 2034: "Robert Downey Jr will return as Black Panther!"
Lmfao!!!!
That would be so meta....
I would unironically watch this.
But only if he plays Black Panther as Kirk Kazarus playing Black Panther. A dude, playing a dude disguised as another dude.
they own him until he is 90
The Fatties franchise is making fun of Eddie Murphy’s “The Nutty Professor” series where Eddie Murphy plays an entire family in different fat suits.
Goddamn, I remember the ads for those movies back when I was a kid. They always looked like shit.
@@HistoryNerd8765 no reason for blasphemy
@@HistoryNerd8765 They're actually not that bad, at least the first one. I haven't seen the second, but the first one has some genuinely funny moments
no shit bro
@@HistoryNerd8765 You can never judge a comedy on a trailer, they always destroy the pacing of jokes which is very important.
This actually wasnt "after" Iron Man. RDJ did filming for both Iron Man and Tropic Thunder at relatively the same time and released in 2008 3-ish months apart, May and August. There was no expectation from anyone that the MCU would turn into something enormous and Iron Man was the kickstart of all that so it was "Alright im doing this Iron Man thing maybe it'll get a sequel, but Stiller is working on this really funny script I'm gonna hop on that"
Sherlock Holmes as well.
@@serenitymuszings Sherlock Holmes and Game of Shadows was the absolute bomb. I hope they get out of production hell so the third one can come out soon
You entirely missed his point. He wasn't referring to this movie. He was referring to the fake trailer at the beginning. He was saying that the Oscar bait movie was like RDJ after Iron Man doing Oppenheimer.
RDJ's career was in real trouble at this point. He went to prison for drugs a couple of times, and he couldn't get parts in major films because no one would insure him.
bro missed the whole point lmao
RDJ wasn't in "black face" for this role....he was IN the black RACE.
Nope, he’s a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude
I honestly have some black friends that genuinely thought he was a black dude. "Who's that black actor" "Bro that's Robert Downey Jr. lol"
@@ryans6280 damn they must be really Black
@@ryans6280Nah but fr RDJ plays the most convincing white black guy ever🤣🤣
@@ryans6280 "I honestly have some black friends" - @ryans6280, 2024
sorry i'm kidding couldn't help it xD
At no point in time when this came out was anyone mad about RDJ playing a fake black guy. When my unit was deployed tropic thunder was one of our favorite movies to watch when we werent on mission. Half my platoon was black and they spent the entire 15 months quoting RDJs lines almost nonstop.
I had just recently redeployed Stateside from Iraq and ETS when this move came out 11b Infantry They made the best movies back then We got a lot of bootlegs from the haji Mart
"Never go full retard son."🫡
Some people were mad.
We just used to ignore them
You can't complain about the movie's length and then say they should have shown things like Matthew McConaughey traveling to the set. The whole point of him popping up like that was SUPPOSED to be a surprise because they try to make you think he's taking the money.
And then in the credits montage you see him returning to the US in his private jet, which was the reveal that he did take the bribes but then used it to get the TiVo to Tugg per the contract, and rescue him just because he's a real dedicated agent. This was back when there was additional material during and/or after the credits (as originally done in Ferris Bueller's Day Off in 1986).
@@Spudz76Streaming services ruined end credit scenes, you can only know about them in the theater
@@SosaBoii-t1c Arrr, I've seen plenty of end credit scenes and only watched 5 movies in theatres in my life. Arrr.
@@SosaBoii-t1c I hate that they minimize the credits and immediately start trying to shove you into the next thing. Aside from any bonus content, I like seeing who made the movie. Or like the song that's playing over them.
The length was perfect.
In the biggest irony in the history of movies, RDJ was nominated for an Oscar for his role(s) in this!
Is this true?!!😂😂😂
Yup! And I'm certain he would have won Best Supporting Actor had the late, great Heath Ledger not played The Joker in "The Dark Knight" so brilliantly, that year. RDJ was that good.
John Voight did not look happy losing the Oscar to Tugg Speedman.
He probably thought the Democrats stole it from him lol
MI:1 with Tom Cruise and Jon Voight already !😅
The reason no one was angry is that anything "offensive" in the movie was played that way on purpose to make fun of it as part of the satire. That's what satire is all about. That behavior wasn't being glorified, it was being mocked, and that's what makes it so funny.
I remember when they were doing the making of the movie they were mentioning how Hollywood would whitewash minority roles throughout cinema history? Anything from Mickey Rooney, playing an Asian from breakfast at Tiffany’s., A Westside Story, Othello, Genghis Kong. There is a long list. Actually it’s still continues to this day with films like exodus, Argo, the Prince of Persia James Franco now playing Fidel Castro lol, And the whole point was to show how ridiculous and wrong it is for a white person to a minority . I think a lot of it is fake outrage for people who have either never seen the movie or can’t comprehend it or other people just stirring up crap.
@@lissaC.W. Fidel Castro was white. I don't see how James Franco playing him would be wrong. Is only a fellow cuban allowed to play a cuban? Why? Can an American not play a frenchman, because they are not French?
@@lissaC.W. franco and castro are both spanish names. Unless its a pseudonym they have ancestors from the same place.
@@stormveil yeah he’s still only 1/4 Portuguese. It’s only his surname he identifies as an American Jew.. even though he knows they’re not a race. We’re in an ethnic background. He has no ancestry of that. But if they want to cast that’s up to the producer Director, like I said, I’m a libertarian and it their choice most people see Franco is an American Jew so it’s gonna kind of pull them out of the story in my opinion, but who knows you might nail the part Argo one of my favorite films and Ben Affleck plays as a Latino. I just think it’s a little hypocritical, though when the little mermaid comes out and the other side starts flipping her crap when we’ve got had had to get used to white actors playing minorities, especially Latinos of Brown skin in their place. You should know in the industry people with brown skin or darker. It is more difficult for them to grab roles. That is just a fact I know I worked behind scenes for years. I have friends who are actors from different backgrounds, especially the casting department I used for four years,. a lot of calls are going to go to white actors. It’s just a fact of life so when there’s an opportunity for a brown skin Latino to play a role yeah it would’ve been nice for that character to actually match the actor. Like they recently did when when they made “society of the Snow” really put that movie over the edge was Director’s dedication of only getting Uruguay or Chilean actors playing light skin Latinos. He didn’t have to do that. He could’ve gotten Americans, but he went the extra mile because he knows Latinos. We have a culture behind it into really understand it. You gotta almost live through it.
An average American playing a Cuban. In a movie that’s supposed to be based on a true historical figure, just goofy . it pulls you out of the story and fair argument with the little mermaid too. I agree it could pull you out of the story, but can you imagine if we flipped out as much as much as white people do? lol more relaxed about it, even though our opportunities are slimmer yeah you might hear some voices speak out about it, but from majority of the part, we let the crap slide and we move on. And this is where I find it pretty comical because the same people who hate the fact that a biracial girls playing the little mermaid tried to make the same argument that it’s absolutely fine for James Franco to play Fidel Castro. We can complain about that at all… do you not see the hypocrisy right there?! 😆
So why we didn’t hear anyone complain about tiger Lily being played by a white girl in the movie “pan” ? Because Native Americans have more important important issues to deal with. However white people were flipping out when they heard the movie “Wendy and Peter” that Tinker Bell was played by a biracial girl.
And like I said, those films are fictional. Films are not even biopic that’s why the whole tropic thunder film was hilarious because it’s supposed to be based on the biopic and instead of getting an actual African-American to play a role again, Australian, pretending to be an African-American that what Hollywood has done for years. Robert Downey Jr. Said it the best it is to show how wrong it is when Hollywood Pulls this kind of crap.
So like I said if you wanted to defend James Franco because he happens to have a sir Spanish name, even though he’s 1/4 of it yet he has no background whatsoever with Latinos then go ahead. Then I’m just saying that why people shouldn’t be hypocrites when it comes to minority a fictional characters even if those fictional characters have known to be of light skin in the past, it’s still fictional. Those roles should actually be up for grabs.
I’m not completely closed minded to Franco playing I’m gonna throw a hissy fit not watch . I personally will watch it and give it a fair chance. He might actually nail it. For comedies or fiction I really don’t care. Who plays that should be up to the producer and Directors imagination. For bio pics, however, It’s hard for me to picture him in that role pulls me out of the storyline. It would be just as goofy as a person of color was playing Abraham Lincoln. That’s how majority of minorities see it when they look at white American playing a role that maybe should’ve gone to someone else.
EDIT getting a little sensitive over there.😆 dude I’m also half Jewish my dad’s Jewish, lol I was saying that specifically because there are Jewish Latinos in countries like Cuba Argentina Columbia etc. Like I said Latinos are an ethnic group .. 🤦🏽♀️
@@lissaC.W. So your problem is that Franco doesn't identify with his latino side? And 25% isn't enough Latino for you? How much is enough latino? How do you deal with people with less latin ancestry but call themselves Latino? Those of Asian or African ancestry?
People are told to go represent but then when they do they are told they're "not latino enough" - very divisive rhetoric. Btw do you have a problem with Jews?
Also the film is going to be about Alina - Fidel's daughter.
You guys must see the Holy Grail of Satire comedy, " BLAZING SADDLES ." Non-stop jokes from every angle. Mel Brooks ( Director/Producer) is a genius !!!
I was born in 1999, When I seen blazing saddles about a year ago, I was so shocked and surprised at how hilarious Blazing Saddles was. Honestly wish more people my age knew about it!
YES!!!!!!!!!
Nobody is safe in that movie. Everybody gets cut on.
That was the most shocked I’ve ever been watching a movie. Legit hilarious though
@@kalenshoemaker6415 imaginr watching it in theaters for the first time 💀
My parents are in their 60's and 70's and they were laughing so hard at this movie in the theater that tears were coming out of their eyes. " Gets excited about my foods now!" 😂
Robert Downey Jr. is my favorite african-american actor
which country?
Same 😂
Elon is more african american then most blacks in america whining about racism all the time.
Afro-American-Aussie
Sgt Lincoln Osiris
Robert Downey Jr. When first approached with this role said: " Hell No!!!"
He told several of his black friends about the role, they read the script, and told him he should do it.
Downey realized that he could make a satire about Method Acting.
Best joke in the movie is when the access Hollywood reporter makes fun of stiller’s character by imitating simple jack. Had us rolling in the theater
YES!!! "Can Speed man muh muh make audiences happy???" 😂😂😂
@@clevelandcbi except that's not what she said
I was high as fuck when i saw this in the theaters, bro the amount of laughter I had during this movie almost made me go to the hospital!!!!
HOW DID THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS??? Simple, people only became terminally offended at everything in the last decade or so.
Correction: White Progressives became terminally offended at everything, on behalf of everyone else, in the last decade.
RDJ did the actual DVD commentary as US Army SGT Lincoln Osiris. It was absolutely epic.
Lol, that is too funny.
This movie is GOATED, truly an instant classic 🤘🏽 So many good people are in this thing and RDJ totally killed it. They don’t make shit like this anymore 😆
RDJ has said that he has never had anyone get mad at him for doing this movie, and I think I know why. Well, first, because it's freaking funny. But second, because he does NOT play a black guy. He plays a white guy...who plays a black guy. And his commitment to the role is amazing.
I saw this in theaters. It was one of the best movie theater experiences i may have ever had. Never laughed so hard in my life
Agreed
This movie would've been forgotten, but RDJ nailing his role and Tom Cruise made this legendary
I don’t remember anyone complaining about black face in Tropic Thunder back then, even now you’d think it would be retrospectively cancelled but it hasn’t been
Some overly sensitive snowflakes, all white people got offended at the movie and RDJ at the time (and still do) being in black face. Because they're too stupid to realize the movie was making fun of and calling out Hollywood's history of whitewashing.
The backlash was all about the "R" word, which was a surprise to most people because it wasn't considered a no no word back then.
That's mostly because it's not 'black face' as that term is used in modern society, the only target of this depiction was the overblown actors that take themselves too seriously with method acting, it was not directed at a race as an insult or disparaging toward a people like some have done in the past. Beyond that RDJ was so freakin' hilarious in this (and convincing honestly) that every reaction channel I've seen or people in my life that are black ALL of them love this role, they get it.
People had a sense of humour back then lol
Because we live on this trendy social media bandwaggon of saying that nowadays everything gets cancelled. When that's more a youtuber grifter's thing to get views. And of course people just read the headline and screw the context.
I've even seen people claim this movie was cancelled back then and it was super-outrageous. lol All lies to sell. Same with so many shows nowadays people complain before they air because they saw some pictures of the set and immediately jumped to the clickbait. They know anger and outrage sells. Funny they go silent soon the show becomes a success and nobody tries to cancel it like they claim in most grifter's videos/social media/whatever.
"he aint playing god, he talkin to him" is one of the funniest lines in movie history
"He ain't playing God. He's being judged by him"
1000000% the greatest comedy ever made. There will never be another
Maaan 04-2012ish had some of the funniest movies of ALL TIME. Superbad, tropic thunder, 40 year old virgin, semi pro, step brothers, taledega nights, dodgeball, this is the end, lottery ticket, anchorman, Pineapple Express, etc.
Cutting 30 minutes from tropic thunder would be blasphemy!
The extended version is Superior.
@@WhiteThorn-95 there is extended version?
Some of the inside jokes were not as obvious but us older folks could appreciate them. Nick Nolte's character was a parody of Martin Sheen in Apocolypse Now. Which was indeed based on a book that changed SO much of the source material that it was barely the same story, lol. Tropic Thunder is brilliant satire...for the ages 😂
are you sure about that? in my opinion Nolte's role wants to be a sort of parody of Oliver Stone, who was in Vietnam as a young man and filmed "Platoon" as a director
I mean, I could see the Oliver Stone scenario, as well ... I suppose I go with the Apocalypse Now satire because it was actually based on the book Heart of Darkness and if I'm not mistaken I thought in the Tropic Thunder universe the film was based on Nolte's character's book.
But the Oliver Stone/Platoon theory holds weight too 😅
They definitely knew they were being edgy and controversial with their jokes and premises. Retard was definitely not cool back then, and RDJ with blackface was satire about Hollywood whitewashing and not being racially diverse enough. I do agree, that they would probably have a hard time making it today. It is the 2000’s version of Blazing Saddles.
no it wasn't. Tropic Thunder is making fun of wokesters like you
@pleutron you really didn't understand the movie, did you? Bless you.
@@pleutron1 - "wokesters" didn't exist in 2007, and I'd bet my house you weren't talking about it back then
2 - they are not making fun of cancellers, progressives and/or sensitive people, on the contrary, so in what sense would they be making fun of the "wokesters"?
@@futrecacao Sorry that you guys are confused and need things spelled out for you before you understand. Good luck with that.
@@pleutron So are you saying they are presenting the RDJ character as a great serious actor who is really stretching his art here by playing a Black character?
Sorry to break it to you, but we are supposed to be laughing at that character. And maybe you, as well.
"I don't read the script, the script reads me" XD
Actually kinda true, with how much ad libbing he does.
The “For four hundred years..” scene never fails to make me laugh 😂😂
That line is from TV sitcom "Moving On Up."
2000's was the golden age for comedies, Bad Santa being my favorite
92 million budget for this movie is insane; we'll never see a comedy with a budget like that again
for me you can't beat superbad and mclovin
Bad Santa was hilarious Billy Bob and Bernie Mac and the little midget black guy
@@busimagen It's hard to judge eras objectively. Vulgarity could only be pushed so far until 2000's, then you could pretty much do whatever you want. And I personally love vulgarity, so I'm partial to 2000's comedy when the doors were wide open for it. 2010's has no excuse, they just got objectively worse after like 2014ish. Would be interesting to see boxoffice sales and how many they made in each decade
2000 was peak movies and shows, The Wire, Sopranos ton of movies.
Bad Santa is outstanding. We watch it every Christmas
A lot of people forget that Tom Cruise was nominated for a Golden Globe for his role in this movie.
IMO, “There’s Something About Mary” is the funniest. Also with Ben Stiller.
This movie was an absolutely brilliant master chess player move for Tom Cruise to be in.
I love that in the background the white board just says “RDJ in blackface” because that’s just the most insane joke of the whole movie
Ben Stiller has been in stuff since the 80s, but his Era began with There's Something About Mary (1998) $370M box office on $23M budget. Third movie for the Farrelly Brothers after Dumb and Dumber and Kingpin.
I think the biggest reason why this movie "gets away" with black-face is because it's clearly regarded as offensive within the movie whereas older movies with black-face are simply just making fun of black people. This isn't making fun of black people, it's making fun of over-the-top method-actors. The fact that RDJ "Cooks as a black man" just sells it even more, lol. I feel like every few years, people come out and try and cancel this movie, but it's usually people who haven't actually watched the film.
Exactly. Just like "Don't look up" had some things that supposedly should make it "cancelable" but still it wasn't. The whole cancel culture schtick is just a grifter's thing, people just end up following the trend.
Yes. Very well explained. Plus, there's the fact that there is another black character constantly calling him out on it.
I only just realized (and this is like the 15th reaction video of this movie I've seen), that the other nominees for the best actor oscar that Tugg wins are people playing "disability roles" like Simple Jack. On either side of the photo of Tugg's "Four-Leaf," character are someone in a wheelchair and someone apparently blind in dark glasses reading Braille. I never caught that joke!
I love the excitement of the friend showing his friend this masterpiece lol so many quotes in the future together
I saw it at the theater when released! It was HELLA FUN!!!! Non-stop laughter!
The movie was a bit longer because it is a parody of Hollywood, so they needed the time to close it properly. It was not about comedy or action as it was about parodying the industry.
They got away with it because comedy was a way to offend everyone and the world just laughed hysterically at it. Somewhere, someone got the notion to be offended and it spread like the plague
It is blowing my mind right now realizing this was 17 years ago.
I remember watching it on theaters thinking, "How did they pull this off?"
Black face had been a no go well before 2008. It was the self awareness I think.
Jack Black's character is based on people like Chris Farley who were comedy guys who had some personal demons and were heavy drug users. Celebrities who are kind of out of control with the drugs used to be pretty common in Hollywood but it's something you don't see nearly as much anymore, it seems like the community and the companies kind of wised up and started avoiding those kinds of problems.
Downey filmed Iron Man in March-June 2007, then went straight to filming Tropic Thunder in July-September 2007. It truly was an epic one-two punch for him. He became the foundational and focal character for the MCU for the next ten years and he got numerous nominations for his acting in Tropic Thunder.
More people got mad about the Simple Jack stuff back then, I remember lol
Forbidden language is the cornerstone of comedy. So…look on the bright side: the more uptight we get as a society, the greater the opportunity to tickle the sensitivity of said society!
This movie has and will continue to appreciate in value.
Tropic Thunder is the Gorge Carlin special of comedy movies.
Everyone: you couldn’t make this movie today. 2007: you can’t make this movie today. 😂😂😂😂
9:15 the people criticizing this movie likely haven't watched this movie.
nah, the tivo intercepting the rocket was how Hollywood lives and dies on holding up contracts, Speedman's contractually obligated DVR. The way dude runs off into the jungle afterwards makes it 100 times funnier
My favorite part about this movie is that it just proves the "woke mob" doesn't exist, it's just political fear tactics. Nobody is offended by this movie because like you said, it was genuine.
Don't worry, people will still claim woke culture exists and 'you can't say anything anymore' in a world where the likes of this movie and South Park exists. People *_love_* the idea that they're being persecuted by people they disagree with politically. There's nothing people enjoy more than feeling like a victim without any of the downsides of _actually being victimised_ 😂
@@laserpanda94The "mob" may not exist, but you can't deny that Disney has very "biased" behaviors, first comes the ideology, then they think about the script and good ideas
@@futrecacao The reality of that is actually way more cynical than culture war. It's 100% about money. Don't confuse the Disney corporation with an entity that holds authentic beliefs lol
Even the people who talk crap on social media
Are few and far between, and when you point out that the film is mocking those trends in Hollywood
They look the fool.
@@bluwlvrine Cancel pigs very much exist. They've just been losing clout since their high water mark in the 2019/2020 timeframe.
It's been awhile, Thank you, I will have to watch it again! Love your laughter, thank you, I think the world needs more smiles and laughing!!
No different than Dave Chappelle playing a white dude. Robert is an excellent actor. Great reaction.
I was in high school in the States when this movie came out and 10 of our friends went to see this movie...
I had never laughed so hard and seen people laugh so hard in the theater ever and i haven't since then.
Every character was simply perfect let alone Tom Cuise who just killed it
I didnt recognize tom cruise until half way through the movie 😂
Sameeeee, until he was dancing at the end and it showed his name i was like wtffffff lol went and rewatched all the scenes with him haha
Awesome analysis, you guys did a great job. I didn’t watch it when it first came out, I feel like it became a cult classic. Still quote this movie til this day. “I don’t read the script, the script reads me”. 😂 Subscribed!
I remember when the movie came out people loved it, I don't remember anyone being offended. Everyone understood that it's the character who's doing blackface not RDJ himself to fit a role that's not for him. It's only recently that people were tryna make a big deal out of it. The movie is making a hilarious commentary on the issue, an actual black character in the movie is calling it out.
It was protested. Mostly by white people.
Y'alls reaction when the director exploded was hilarious😂
I will say something about the whole "They can't make that today." At the time this movie came out they would have said the same thing about Blazing Saddles or whatever. The about pushing boundaries with comedy is that if it's FUNNY and from a place of honesty in terms of looking at society it is ALWAYS OK, because it's good. People still talk about good comedy and art and still watch it, without shame, but shitty comedy that is cheap and from a place of ignorance and/or racism is not still talked about positively. There is a lot crap from the past and honestly recent times that fall into that.
Excellent reaction fellas. I think you nailed it with your commentary and paid great attention to all the themes and lines.
15:40 He is Australian, but in the trailer at the beginning with Tobey Maguire, RDJ was playing an Irish priest.
Guys, watching this in the theater opening week was an absolute experience. I snuck in with 2 friends when we were 15. It was the wildest thing we had ever seen 😂
I love y'all's energy and commentary. You are both knowledgeable and willing to look things up to talk about, and I enjoyed your reaction to one of my favorite comedies. I was impressed at how you were able to think from the perspective of the news and current events of the time when the movie came out.
I know you guys get it, but I wanted to say that the question isn't "How did they get away with this?", the question is "What changed that made it so movies can't do this today?" Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Comedy didn't change, people changed their attitudes to be hateful, judgmental, discriminatory, more than I'd ever seen in my life over the 2010s. Comedy is always going to be comedy, and there's no shame in that. Nobody is trying to hurt anybody. When people start getting all self-righteous and controlling, assuming an authoritative position because they choose to believe that something hurts an imaginary victim in their minds, that's crossing the line - and it's been crossed a thousand times over the last ten years. This film pre-dates social justice warriors and political correctness, and that's why it's so good. We could have more films just like it, if the SJWs and PCs would just give up the fight already. If the SJWs and PCs were right, this film would've gotten cancelled a decade ago - deleted from the face of the planet.
Yeah, you missed the point on this a little. It wasn't a movie "of it's time" where people just "talked the way they talked" and it absolutely could be made today. This is a Satire of Hollywood period. Saying Retarded that much wasn't how people talked then, they were making fun of method actors, and highlighting how tone deaf they could be. That was also the point of RDJ's blackface. If anything, the left loves this movie BECAUSE it highlighted hypocrisy in the industry.
100%. Theres no satire films anymore because conservatives don't understand satire.
That's bull Hella liberals were mad he was black face
Retarded was a common word in every day speech. It was just another word for stupid but wasn't considered bad unless you were targeting someone with it. It hadn't become a no no word at that point.
@@ruthsaunders9507 yeah, retar-oops.
@@ruthsaunders9507 What are you talking about? "Retarded" was not a common word, and would immediately be corrected if overheard by most adults. Whether intentional or not, it is a mock to the disabled community. Unless you are using the formal meaning of the word, it has always been offensive. The formal use of "retard" was also dated (meaning rarely used) at this point, though not offensive. It also has a different pronunciation. Either you had your head in the sand or you're pushing propaganda.
In the movie, RDJ says he doesn't drop character until after he does DVD commentary. And he did do the DVD commentary in character. I saw this in theaters. Everyone knew it was RDJ. It was advertised, and no one was mad. Just different times, I guess. No one knew Tom Cruise was in it! Tom read the script and thought of that character himself. Ben Stiller was the writer, so he wrote in the character based on Tom's ideas and Tom disguised his own costume, down to the hairy hands, the fat suit and the dancing lol. I laughed my behind off in the theater. Great reaction!
I gotta say this might be the best reaction video I’ve seen for this movie. Most reaction vids are just people bursting out laughing or reacting in shock but you guys show a level of media criticism and analysis that most people don’t.
Absolutely 1 of the funniest movies ever made!!! I sat thought this movie twice at the theater 😂😂😂
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🔥 *Bowfinger* (1999)
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🔥 *Dumb and Dumber* (1994)
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- Edit the movie with partial % of transparency (and/or text)
- Flip the movie scene from Right to Left.
- Keep your reaction on full screen (If the scenes of the movie take up less space on the screen and are edited, they can avoid the 4lg0rithm much easier)
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- Put the volume of the movie lower than the volume of your microphone(not too low). (Statics, White noise & your comments , make little distortion to the audio)
- Record the audio of your reaction separately from the audio of the movie, that way you can mute/edit the audio/image of the movie without muting/editing the audio/image of your reaction.
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If you think for a minute that "he didn't know better" when they made _Tropic Thunder_, just look the criticism _There's Something About Mary_ drew for essentially the same humor back in the 90's. I always figured a lot of _Tropic Thunder_ was Ben Stiller stewing in the criticism of the earlier movie and saying, "Well, if you thought that was offensive..."
Y'all NEED to watch the commentary or listen to the commentary of the movie. RDJ says in character the WHOLE time. It's hilarious 😂😂😂
Well not the whole time. He drops the Osiris act when his character does.
And there's the part where they order In N Out while doing the commentary 😂
I laughed so dam hard in the theater at "for 400 years that word" i was crying laughing. Greatest movie ever
Blazing Saddles is the GOAT of comedies, but this is a very close second and The Hangover comes in 3rd. It looks like you guys need to react to both Blazing Saddles and The Hangover. Dodgeball is great too.
Superbad is up there too
I watched it in theaters opening weekend. I was in tech school in the air force so didn't know anything about it. But when those trailers hit I was on the floor in tears from laughing so much
2:25 I watched this in theaters, was late to the movie bc of a phone call. I was so confused by these trailers. I had no idea why they were calling the actors the wrong names.
😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 That’s so hilarious!
You may know that RDJ did the audio commentary in character for the dvd, like he says in the movie. ( "I stay in character until the audio commentary is done.")
But it gets even better! They shot a fake "documentary" about the making off, of the Vietnam War movie that they´re shooting, in the style of a Werner Herzog documentary, which was included on the dvd bonus section.
It´s presented by script writer Justin Theroux, playing "acclaimed German documentary film maker Jan Juergen", complete with a fake German accent, fake interviews with Tug Speedman, Kirk Lazarus & "director" Damian Cockburn. They even show how RDJ´s Kirk Lazarus is getting into character.
You can find it on youtube, it´s called "Rain of Madness" and hilarious.
HOW THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT: #1. People were not offended and afraid of everything back then. People could laugh together at just funny things without being offended. #2. It wasn't "black face." To see what real "black face" was please look at minstrel shows from the 1930s when white men put very black make-up on their faces in a caricature style, mocking the appearance of black people and looking ridiculous. Robert Downy Jr.'s make-up is serious, professional make-up to make him legitimately appear as a black man, without mocking the race, for this role in this film. This cannot be compared to "black face" which was an intentional, racist mockery of the appearance of black people. As I said, look into minstrel shows from the 1930's and this point will become completely clear.
I love this movie, but your reactions and comments made me crack up even harder. priceless.
What changed was black people weren't told to be angry with this shit. I went to a "black movie theater" and people were laughing at him black facing so hard it made the movie that much better. Since then, a lot of races and the sexes were told to get angry at each other
Y’all made this movie 2000000000 times funnier!
They made this movie when people knew what acting is
The best part of this movie is the commentary and extra clips that RDJ shots as “Colonel Lincoln Osiris” they are hilariously amazing
I get what you guys are saying about they don’t make movies that are mean spirited or comedies that are punching down anymore, cause i think thats how some people see it and everyone’s afraid to be offensive. But I don’t think this movie even does that much punching down. Robert downy jr’s character is the butt of all the jokes, him being in black face make his desperation to lose himself in a role funnier. Same with Stillers Simple jack character. He’s the butt of the joke cause we all know he’s trying to be taken seriously as an actor and win an award for playing a disabled person because a lot of people have. But it’s that he does it so bad that makes it funny. I feel like we’re all laughing at him not disabled people
Plus you had Tom Cruise as army vet in The 4th of July...this movie was poking fun at Hollywood...
You guys saying THIS movie couldn't be made today proves you've never seen Blazing Saddles. Blazing Saddles is a movie written by a black man and a Jew and is THE GREATEST COMEDY MOVIE EVER!!!!!! The Black man was RICHARD PRYOR and the Jew was MEL BROOKS. Racism was made fun of in the 70's...LIKE IT SHOULD!!!!!!
The ending scene is just like the scene they were filming at the beginning. Except instead of tucker throwing up his hands to stop the rpg, his agent threw his tivo.
Also, the agent character is constantly talking and fighting to get Tucker his stuff in his contract. He says something like, 'i'm gonna bring it to you myself' so it's not totally random that he pops out of the woods. The seed was planted beforehand.
Yeah..ppl are way sensitive today.. nobody had a problem with White chicks..that was pretty goofy..or Eddie Murphy doing a Jewish guy in coming to America.
I mean, people had a problem with white chicks
It was bad.
So bad it officially ended the Wayans brothers directing careers along with "Little Man"
The only person who looked good and came out of that film strong was Terry Crews
Whose performance is routinely cited as the best part of the film.
@@mckenzie.latham91 who did?..never heard anything about anybody having a problem w WC..and if ppl DID...GOOD.. because it was a shitty movie about BLK ppl making fun of white ppl.. INTENTIONALLY..and you won't convince me otherwise... at least RDJ NAILED IT by just letting the character be "himself" without TRYING to make the character look stupid...like they did in WC..at some point, making fun of the vast majority of the population will backfire on ya 😀 rightfully so.
@@mckenzie.latham91never heard that but GOOD 😂..pull that ish in a Muslim country and see what happens.
It's one of my favorites..favorite part..when the bird steals jack blacks Skittles..lol
U GUYS ONLY GOT ABOUT 30 % MOST OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING WENT RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD
It was shocking when I saw it in the theatre 😂 beautiful, hilarious and horrifying at the same time!! We take ourselves away to serious in the present ✌🏼
6:37 "That product placement just work on you?" That was one of the funniest ad-libs I have heard in a long time. You two are funny.
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