What Happened to The Batman (2004)? | Unused Villains, Rejected Ideas and Retrospective

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  • @smallfungus2675
    @smallfungus2675 5 месяцев назад +1144

    Honestly the bat-embargo on scarcrow and mad hatter is so lame. Like Nolan did nothing interesting with them, why limit others creativity.

    • @SantiBarrios
      @SantiBarrios  5 месяцев назад +280

      Yeah I gotta admit Scarecrow was pretty disappointing in the Nolan movies, he's one of my favorite DC villains but it felt like they wasted the characters' potential and Cillian Murphy's fantastic talent as an actor

    • @gangofheroes
      @gangofheroes 5 месяцев назад +151

      The embargos in general are lame.

    • @seasonembrace3624
      @seasonembrace3624 4 месяца назад +92

      Yeah it’s a shame that Scarecrow didn’t get much relevance in the Dark Knight film trilogy and Hatter was dropped all together. Especially since there some of my favourite antagonists. Though at least there portrayals & the actors who voiced them in the 4 Arkham games were pretty solid in my opinion. And I will also say that when the Dark Knight film trilogy & the Arkham games first arrived to folks everywhere during the 2000's it was a great time to be a Batman fan that's for certain.

    • @HWjabber
      @HWjabber 4 месяца назад +33

      They're literally my favourite villains. I would LOVE to have seen how they would have looked in this show and what unique things they might have done with them.

    • @SilverHairedFreak25
      @SilverHairedFreak25 4 месяца назад +40

      I'm... mixed on it personally. On the one hand, it sucks that these iconic characters were mandated not to be used. On the other, it forced the writers to develop characters that were normally underutilized in Batman media, as well as create new interesting characters.

  • @angryjack7963
    @angryjack7963 5 месяцев назад +773

    The most slept on Batman series, and I’m glad someone addressed the missing villains like Scarecrow and Two Face

    • @seasonembrace3624
      @seasonembrace3624 4 месяца назад +30

      To the 2004 shows credit it lasted longer as far as seasons go when compared to another show (Beware_The_Batman)

    • @seasonembrace3624
      @seasonembrace3624 4 месяца назад +21

      Also this shows intro theme is one of favourites along with Beyond’s intro theme. Dem guitar riffs.

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m 4 месяца назад +13

      This series was-GREAT-I liked it even better than Batman-TAS-especially the animation.

    • @GamerSlyRatchet1
      @GamerSlyRatchet1 4 месяца назад +9

      @@seasonembrace3624 The TRUE slept-on Batman show.

    • @CaliforniaSurfer-gc2xv
      @CaliforniaSurfer-gc2xv 4 месяца назад +6

      I loved both of them. Ho w about Batman Brave Bold. Loved that show

  • @Reach008
    @Reach008 4 месяца назад +344

    Ras Al ghoul was the biggest missed opportunity for this show. For such a martial artist and action based show, he would’ve been perfect. But I’m glad for a show that’s hit its 20th anniversary, it’s getting so much love. The designs are sick and it genuinely has some incredible eps.

    • @aaronputhalath2778
      @aaronputhalath2778 4 месяца назад +33

      On the flip side, they used his character design for Dracula which is how we get that awesome movie, so not a complete loss imo

    • @Reach008
      @Reach008 4 месяца назад +17

      @@aaronputhalath2778 the design did Dracula was suppose to be for Ras?? I had no idea

    • @altalia07
      @altalia07 4 месяца назад +5

      Srsly! And yess. It's actually my favorite Batman show 💜

    • @altalia07
      @altalia07 4 месяца назад +1

      @@aaronputhalath2778woah

    • @Reach008
      @Reach008 4 месяца назад +2

      @@altalia07 I don’t know if I have a favorite since they’re all so unique and different, but this one is definitely up there!

  • @BLAZER_VA
    @BLAZER_VA 5 месяцев назад +396

    Rino Romano was such a undderated voice actor of The Batman I really hope he comes to voice Batman some time in the future

    • @chairannmcqueen1620
      @chairannmcqueen1620 4 месяца назад +26

      Hopefully he will since Kevin Conroy is gone although they would have Diedrich Badger Roger Craig Smith can be a new voice actor for the dark knight.

    • @MatteoBiondillo
      @MatteoBiondillo 4 месяца назад +13

      He still is pretty underrated, i rarely ever see him in a top

    • @altalia07
      @altalia07 4 месяца назад +5

      Yess

    • @thetruckwashbathroomstudio2922
      @thetruckwashbathroomstudio2922 4 месяца назад +19

      He was a great voice actor for Spider-Man too

    • @theoutlawking9123
      @theoutlawking9123 4 месяца назад +6

      He was actually pretty good, sounded serious without trying too hard, they could definitely use him for Injustice 3.

  • @Alejandroigarabide
    @Alejandroigarabide 4 месяца назад +319

    All the fan backlash at the time is due to what I call "The Stepfather Principle", as in "I dislike you not because of what you are or what you did, but because I feel you want to replace something I love". Several excelent rebooted franchises have suffered from that prejudice.

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 4 месяца назад +25

      Literally every tmnt show ever

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles 4 месяца назад +26

      @@MILDMONSTER1234 Agreed, although that's usually more of an immediate predecessor thing with TMNT. The 2003 cartoon gets compared with 1987 cartoon, the 2012 cartoon most often with the 2003 cartoon, and the 2018 cartoon most often with the 2012 cartoon.

    • @burpington_burpngking_bayron
      @burpington_burpngking_bayron 4 месяца назад +7

      Its sad that 98 Godzilla got treated like trash

    • @JoshuaFoster-v4d
      @JoshuaFoster-v4d 4 месяца назад +8

      Funny how the batman is a breath of fresh air compared to batman cape crusader

    • @KhaosFrosty
      @KhaosFrosty 4 месяца назад +5

      @@burpington_burpngking_bayron The movie or the animated series? Because the animated series was an underrated gem that should've gotten a higher budget.

  • @jinpei05
    @jinpei05 4 месяца назад +302

    My only real complaint about the show was the fact Detective Yin was dropped completely after season 2 and the introduction of Comissioner Gordon. There were hints of a blossoming closeness between her and Bruce and it would have been interesting to see if a romance could happen and how it would affect her partnership with Batman.

    • @enviousgaming3250
      @enviousgaming3250 4 месяца назад +28

      i agree! i was so sad yin and ethan bennette didnt show up again
      they were both great characters and the season 1 finale of the batman still terrifies me with what happened to bernnette

    • @nickflaskett257
      @nickflaskett257 4 месяца назад +30

      ​​@@enviousgaming3250Ethan Bennett did show up again in season 4 I think, but it was a one-off that turned Basil Karlo into the second Clayface

    • @hawktalon7890
      @hawktalon7890 4 месяца назад +14

      Yeah, the fact Yin suddenly became nonexistent was strange.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 3 месяца назад +6

      I think Ming-Na Wen was too expensive

    • @seijin4426
      @seijin4426 3 месяца назад +1

      Romance?! Oh brother! 🙄

  • @Sarez____-it4ks
    @Sarez____-it4ks 4 месяца назад +32

    I noticed how this series tried making the rogues gallery original through making them slightly more intimidating with a penguin that could throw hands, a psychotic criminal mr.freeze, and a killer croc that could count past ten. It really made the series more unique.

    • @walkerbeasley6236
      @walkerbeasley6236 26 дней назад +3

      Killer croc that could count past 10😭😭😭

  • @BLAZER_VA
    @BLAZER_VA 5 месяцев назад +241

    The Batman vs Dracula movie that the movie was base on show was so cool
    Vampire Joker still gives me nightmare to this day

    • @georgejoestarii9469
      @georgejoestarii9469 4 месяца назад +9

      Gotham Cemetery. Am I dreaming? 🤨

    • @Poni5
      @Poni5 4 месяца назад +8

      The show wasn't based on the movie since the movie aired between S2 and S3.

    • @Poni5
      @Poni5 4 месяца назад +7

      ​@@georgejoestarii9469yeah thats an actual movie for the show

    • @MatteoBiondillo
      @MatteoBiondillo 4 месяца назад +4

      I remember being a kid and watching an AMV with Vampire Joker, i was f**** terrified (the music didn't help either, i don't remember the song, but it was pretty horrifying).

    • @jackieec
      @jackieec 4 месяца назад +1

      Agreed

  • @Andyjoe522
    @Andyjoe522 4 месяца назад +128

    As stupid as the Bat-Embargo is, I think using Hugo Strange for the zombie episode over Scarecrow was the right call. Scarecrow would have made the twist way too obvious, and it still works because in the comics Hugo Strange used a version of fear toxin years before Scarecrow was ever introduced.

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +74

    Dude, i loved that this show did justice to Hawkman. This one and Batman: Brave and the Bold are the only ones that give him respect.

    • @SantiBarrios
      @SantiBarrios  4 месяца назад +18

      Totally agree!! Hawkman really deserves more love, his appearances in both The Batman and BTBATB were great

  • @ajerjavec4723
    @ajerjavec4723 4 месяца назад +87

    I love how this version of the penguin even when they took away the more physical stuff still feels like an anti-Bruce Wayne as basically a rich kid who never grew up and never learn how to make money for himself the honest way, also about strange world and scarecrow many people believe that this actually works better because it would’ve spoiled the twist if they had use scarecrow

    • @Paolo-ec2si
      @Paolo-ec2si 4 месяца назад +8

      True, Strange was the best choice. I would have still liked to see Scarecrow in this cartoon tough.

  • @emeraldphoenix5868
    @emeraldphoenix5868 5 месяцев назад +219

    The Batman 2004 had a lot of Good Ideas,It’s a real shame that we didn't see some of them.

    • @SantiBarrios
      @SantiBarrios  5 месяцев назад +23

      I'd love it if DC revived The Batman for an animated movie that shows villains we never got to see in the OG series, maybe they could finally use that Scarecrow design

    • @emeraldphoenix5868
      @emeraldphoenix5868 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@SantiBarrios Or have one of its Villains make more Appearances in Modern DC Media like Everywhere Man and D.A.V.E for example but that works too.
      For real though,D.A.V.E is such an Underrated Villain in The Batman 2004 and I always had the idea of him being the Main Antagonist in Arkham Knight instead of Scarecrow cause the M rating would've been Pushed to the Max.

    • @SantiBarrios
      @SantiBarrios  5 месяцев назад +9

      @@emeraldphoenix5868 I completely agree, it's crazy that while many original characters that debuted in BTAS have continued being used, the original characters created for The Batman have been neglected and forgotten about. Characters like Ethan Bennet, Detective Yin, Everywhere Man and D.A.V.E. have great potential and deserve to be used in more Batman comics and media

    • @Batbloxman
      @Batbloxman 4 месяца назад +5

      Yeah, absolutely agree 🗿🦇

    • @emeraldphoenix5868
      @emeraldphoenix5868 4 месяца назад +3

      @@SantiBarrios And not to mention an OST Release cause we didn't get the Soundtrack after The Batman 2004 came to a Close and we only got the OST of The Batman vs Dracula which is still on RUclips.

  • @DoctorInk20
    @DoctorInk20 4 месяца назад +74

    Easily the most underrated animated Batman.
    What's especially interesting is that most Bat-media that came after integrated a bunch of ideas from it: e.g. Penguin's feud with the Waynes, solidifying Bane's normal-to-big transformation with the Venom, etc.
    Also, I couldn't help noticing that the Dracula design was oddly similar to Ra's Al-Ghul's classic appearance. Obviously, we can't prove it, but I like to think they wanted to use him somehow, but got creative with what had. 😂

    • @NitwitsWorld
      @NitwitsWorld 4 месяца назад +7

      Dracula is a cool character given there was a comic book where Batman did fight Dracula 😅

  • @shelbybayer200
    @shelbybayer200 4 месяца назад +72

    Dude, We were robbed for some of these Villains.
    Come on, that Scarecrow Design is freakin good. Would've been so good

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 4 месяца назад +4

      It is, but using him would've ruined the twist in his episode almost immediately.

    • @shelbybayer200
      @shelbybayer200 2 месяца назад

      @@nicholasfarrell5981
      He never was in the show

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 2 месяца назад

      @@shelbybayer200 because they gave what was supposed to be his episode to Strange after DC ixnayed putting him on the show. The zombie episode was intended to premiere Scarecrow.

  • @cinemaarts8795
    @cinemaarts8795 4 месяца назад +33

    Since The Batman couldn't use Ra's Al Ghul, Dracula would've made a suitable replacement. Imagine Dracula still being a vampire but looking more like Vlad III, that could've been really cool.

  • @tylerlarson7263
    @tylerlarson7263 4 месяца назад +45

    I can't believe that Ra's al Ghul, Scarecrow, Mad Hatter, and Wonder Woman didn't make the cut.

    • @17Bane
      @17Bane 3 месяца назад +5

      Also two face and Talia al ghul and maybe deathshoot.

    • @johnramirez4806
      @johnramirez4806 2 месяца назад +3

      Nor aquaman

  • @captaincomic8678
    @captaincomic8678 4 месяца назад +30

    Apparently the team that worked on the tie-in comic, The Batman Strikes!, intended for the comic to keep running even after the show ended, with plans to introduce the universe's versions of Bizarro, Wonder Woman, and even Owlman and the Crime Syndicate from Earth-3, but not long after the show ended the comic was also, of course, ended.

  • @rhydonbeacham
    @rhydonbeacham 4 месяца назад +23

    12:04 This was one of my favorite moments in 2004 The Batman series because even though Chief Rojas still despised the Batman, the rest of the GCPD began to see him as the hero of Gotham City, and he ended up being the minority in Batman’s role in stopping Freeze and Firefly from taking over the City

  • @thebloodedge284
    @thebloodedge284 5 месяцев назад +160

    Man that bat embargo ruined a lot of things for batman villians. Did you know that there were plans to include scarecrow and riddler in the legion of doom on Justice League unlimted. But due to the bat embargo, it didn't happen.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +14

      Dang, that's so lame

    • @MBGamesHD
      @MBGamesHD 4 месяца назад +22

      Scarecrow and Riddler wouldn't have worked in Unlimited imo but I wonder if that Bat-embargo is the reason Nightwing wasn't included in JLU. Dude was never heard of again after TNBA, not even in Beyond

    • @keithharrissuwignjo2460
      @keithharrissuwignjo2460 4 месяца назад +9

      @@MBGamesHD Well he made a small cameo in the show

    • @cje499
      @cje499 4 месяца назад +4

      That and Hugo Strange got replaced by Dr Moon

    • @marlonclark-ky6ub
      @marlonclark-ky6ub 4 месяца назад +16

      Ras al Ghul was Originally planned to appear in the justice league unlimited episode wake the dead where he was Originally supposed to be the one who resurrects Solomon Grundy but thanks to the bat embargo it couldn't happen it would've been much better than Grundy being accidently resurrected by teens

  • @billtree52
    @billtree52 4 месяца назад +31

    That Bat-embargo seems like the worst anti-marketing decision ever. The cross-pollination of exposure would've only helped, and the embargo implies that audiences are too stupid to understand that the same character won't be the same from movie versus a TV show.
    Also a total loss anytime the Mad Hatter does not get utilized. Mind Control would make such a great premise.

    • @CCaster2000
      @CCaster2000 3 месяца назад +1

      Irk? Because who would get Heath Ledger's Joker and '04 Joker confused?

  • @MMchikito
    @MMchikito 5 месяцев назад +36

    This series was amazing, hopefully a revival is on the way.
    Amazing video per usual too!

    • @SantiBarrios
      @SantiBarrios  5 месяцев назад +8

      Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it, The Batman really was an amazing series

    • @Paolo-ec2si
      @Paolo-ec2si 4 месяца назад

      Whaaaaat!??! A revival is on the way?! DUDE I'M HYYYYYYPED! 🤩🤩🤩

    • @Paolo-ec2si
      @Paolo-ec2si 4 месяца назад

      But where do you heard of this revival news? Can you tell me??

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m 4 месяца назад +1

      I LOVED this new BATMAN animated series,bought the entire season series when they came out on dvds.I also liked the teams-up with other JL members during it's run,no other Batman cartoon shows did this.And the intro music for the first season was-GOLDEN-too.I remember in a behind the scenes interview by one of the show-runners,he said SUPERMAN was an alien pretending to be-HUMAN-and i never forgot that quote.

    • @Paolo-ec2si
      @Paolo-ec2si 4 месяца назад

      @@SantiBarrios difvyou heard anything about this revival?

  • @TheKillerMoth
    @TheKillerMoth 4 месяца назад +21

    My boy Scarecrow CANNOT catch a break 😭
    A lot of the time he is just forgotten and when Scarecrow IS THERE, he just does NOTHING. (Cough cough, the Nolan films, cough cough.)
    I really hope he gets some Justice in "The Batman 2." He is an AMAZING character.

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles 4 месяца назад +3

      He also got unceremoniously killed off at the end of Season 1 of "Harley Quinn."

    • @andrewdau1299
      @andrewdau1299 4 месяца назад +3

      There's a ton of cool stuff you can do with Scarecrow and they never do it.

  • @brucekent9085
    @brucekent9085 4 месяца назад +8

    Fun fact that I learned later on when I got more into comic books. This series was actually spot on with how old Bruce was when he became Batman.
    He is 26 years old in his 3rd year meaning he would have been 23 when he started. I thought that was ridiculously young and that they were simply trying to appeal to a younger audience, however upon getting to read the original comics from the late 30's early 40's it depicts him losing his parents at age 8 and then says for 15 years he puts himself through extensive training ending in become the Batman.
    I thought that was really cool. Had no idea Batman was so young and it was dope to see him at this age.

  • @dynaguy3
    @dynaguy3 5 месяцев назад +76

    DC TV animation was really in it’s prime during the 2000s. So many animated series with a variety of tones. Imagining some of them sharing continuity is also really fun. Kind of sad how most of the animated series now are adult oriented.

    • @SantiBarrios
      @SantiBarrios  5 месяцев назад +24

      DC really was in an animation golden age during the late 90s and the 2000s, it's crazy to think all the great shows and movies they released during that time. Also, I completely agree with you in that there should be more animated series appropriate for all ages, I think that cartoons are the best way for kids yo get into comics, so both Marvel and DC should really understand the value of making shows that everyone can enjoy and could potentially create them new lifelong fans.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +9

      I agree. i wish DC would make more all ages shows like they used to. These new adult ones are so boring

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles 4 месяца назад +5

      Plus, just because a cartoon is made appropriate for kids doesn't mean it can't also have quality writing and deep storylines that also appeal to adults.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 3 месяца назад

      Justice League Action? Batman Unlimited?

  • @GamerSlyRatchet1
    @GamerSlyRatchet1 4 месяца назад +43

    Fun fact: Designer Thomas Perkins created a design of Mr. Zsasz, who was supposed to a cameo in The Batman vs. Dracula Arkham scene, but it didn't go through and he lost the design to time. You can still spot Calendar Man in the movie's opening battle.

    • @CCaster2000
      @CCaster2000 3 месяца назад

      I know what you're talking about, but I saw a Batman villain retrospective recently that stated that Zsasz DID appear in the movie, but what he looks like exactly isn't clear. But who knows?

    • @GamerSlyRatchet1
      @GamerSlyRatchet1 3 месяца назад

      @@CCaster2000 I know that one. That's where I found out about Calendar Man, but his info is outdated. Perkins confirmed a little later that the Zsasz design never made it to the final episode.

  • @Compucles
    @Compucles 4 месяца назад +12

    Detective Yin was a great character, but she basically disappeared after Season 2 as Commissioner Gordon showed up and Batgirl became more prominent. I get that her roles were basically redundant by that point, but she still deserved better than to be Chuck Cunninghammed with no explanation. Well, at least they didn't kill her off.

    • @youngclueless7364
      @youngclueless7364 3 месяца назад +1

      Yh I agree. She was a great original character but her character just served her purpose and there wasn't really anywhere else they could take it
      She was a key part of the clayface story arc and showed a lot of growth when she chose to trust batman and team up with him. However from that point on, Batman didn't need her anymore as Gordon becomes his ally from the GCPD, and Batgirl as well as Robin then become his sidekicks
      I remember in the finale of S2, yin tries to go with batman as his "partner" to take on joker, riddler and penguin, but batman shuts her down because she's not his "sidekick". Considering in the very next episode, barbara is introduced while yin is written out, its clear that they never intended on making room for yin moving forward as the show was now upping the stakes. It would've been nice having her show up now and again to team up with the batfam, but the writers were always going to prioritise Commissioner gordon and batgirl (as well as robin later on), so it would've been harder to write her in

  • @serbukmomogi
    @serbukmomogi 4 месяца назад +24

    I don't get why ppl hate this ver of joker, this is actually the only joker that scared me as a child

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 3 месяца назад

      The design is fine, but he doesn't feel like Batman's archenemy and beyond disfiguring Bennet he doesn't really hurt Bruce in any real way. The show feels like a stepdown from how other Batman properties adapt his villains.

  • @ItsOver9000Productions
    @ItsOver9000Productions 4 месяца назад +19

    This show is finally starting to see a resurgence and was officially acknowledged by official DC Comics Art for the first time in like 20 years. And was last acknowledged in silhouette in Teen Titans Go Vs Teen Titans.
    I'm so happy The Batman is getting it's time under the sun finally. This is the show that introduced the mythos and character to me, and it's quality has stood the test of time. The acting, animation, designs, aesthetic, music, etc i love it all. I'd love to see a proper recognition of the show at some point soon. Its not easy to follow BTAS.
    Rino Romano is a GOAT Batman and Spider-Man.
    The clock king episode was amazing honestly.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +1

      Wait, when did he appear as a silhouette in Teen Titans Go vs Teen Titans?

    • @ItsOver9000Productions
      @ItsOver9000Productions 4 месяца назад +4

      @@DavidMartinez-ce3lp in the sequence where they are explaining the Multiverse with multiple Batman fighting. There's a bunch of silhouettes and they all fight and of course BTAS comes out on top. It's a very brief sequence

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +2

      @@ItsOver9000Productions oh, I see. He also came out in a still image teaming up various Batmen in Batman: Brave and the Bold show

    • @ItsOver9000Productions
      @ItsOver9000Productions 4 месяца назад +1

      @@DavidMartinez-ce3lp yep! But that I think it was in like 2010 or so? So long ago

    • @Mugen2024
      @Mugen2024 4 месяца назад

      After the whole Crisis on Infinite Earths thing...

  • @GilDragonGamer
    @GilDragonGamer 4 месяца назад +9

    I absolutely love the series, but it’s kinda sad that Mad Hatter and Scarecrow weren’t able to be in the series

  • @oscaruncomfortable
    @oscaruncomfortable 4 месяца назад +7

    It's my fav batman cartoon, I wish we'd had these villains, but I'm glad we had some unique characters like D.A.V.E and Prank, and lesser villains like Ragdoll

  • @CampDweller
    @CampDweller 4 месяца назад +39

    This show needs a revival and a beyond version spinoff .

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +8

      After what happened with the Young Justice revival, I'd rather they didn't

    • @tyronleung5276
      @tyronleung5276 4 месяца назад +2

      Beyond is limited to the btas universe

    • @Mugen2024
      @Mugen2024 4 месяца назад

      No ​@@tyronleung5276

    • @shamusomalley4263
      @shamusomalley4263 4 месяца назад +10

      You don't want modern TV execs touching your beloved old shows. Let it be.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +2

      @@shamusomalley4263 exactly

  • @Paolo-ec2si
    @Paolo-ec2si 4 месяца назад +10

    While it was great to have Hugo Strange use the fear toxin, (wich is accurate to his first appearance in the comics) and okay to have Cayface substitue two face as theformer friend of Bruce who fell into villany; i still think that Scarecrow and Mad Hatter deserved to appear in this serie.
    Sure the show had a bit of continuity problem and overused sone villains but im sure they would have pulled off some real nice episodes for these two.

  • @stevekoller3314
    @stevekoller3314 4 месяца назад +59

    The Batman 🤝 Spectacular Spider-Man

    • @1kracuauker797
      @1kracuauker797 3 месяца назад

      = having your ideas limited and blocked by stupid marketing decisions

  • @nicholase82
    @nicholase82 4 месяца назад +31

    Honestly I wish they didn't throw away all their original characters in the third season.

    • @Paolo-ec2si
      @Paolo-ec2si 4 месяца назад +2

      Agree.
      Made no sense to stop showing them.

    • @ItsOver9000Productions
      @ItsOver9000Productions 4 месяца назад +9

      Yin gets mentioned ONCE. ONCE. After season 2. It sucks. Ethan gets to show up one more time at least

    • @djtwister6997
      @djtwister6997 4 месяца назад +7

      The first two seasons were awesome!!! Season 3-5 wasn’t as good imo especially 5.

    • @djtwister6997
      @djtwister6997 4 месяца назад +1

      @IStevenSeagal I did see the show. My issues with season 4/5 mainly is the justice league episodes as this is a Batman show!! Also they abandoned characters I love such as Yin and Ethan Bennett which suck!! My favorite episode was the one with two clay faces through .

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles 4 месяца назад +3

      @IStevenSeagal Yin still could've made additional appearances in more of a Bullock or Montoya type of role.

  • @thedevilisaloser666
    @thedevilisaloser666 4 месяца назад +22

    I adore this show for bringing in Black Mask - my favorite Batman villain - and making him a genuinely threatening villain.
    He is super underrated, and this series really did him justice

    • @cybrid37
      @cybrid37 4 месяца назад +7

      Pretty sure this show alone was responsible for creating even more Black Mask fans. Loved the Black Mask in this one.

    • @rookiedrifter4273
      @rookiedrifter4273 4 месяца назад

      @@cybrid37 This, combined with No Man's Land. He was written completely differently, but dude was a goddamned menace back then. War Games was I think his next big appearance, & while he did do some truly awful shit there (like torture Spoiler), the overall plot just... wasn't very good.

  • @christianmanka3884
    @christianmanka3884 4 месяца назад +4

    I love Mad Hatter. I hate that he wasn’t allowed to be used because of a trilogy that didn’t use him anyhow… at least he was awesome in Gotham.

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +16

    I think something else that makes the Batman feel like a prequel to Teen Titans is a reference to a "Justice League: Teen Division". I mean, seriously, you could watch the Batman, and that line perfectly leads into Teen Titans. Like you could watch 1 and then the other.

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles 4 месяца назад +2

      Except the Teen Titans got together by accident and their own decisions rather than any official move by the adult heroes.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +3

      @Compucles yes, but I'm saying if they're in the same continuity, then the idea existed before the team got together. Meaning Robin was already accepting of the idea and it was sort of inevitable.

  • @arrownoir
    @arrownoir 4 месяца назад +3

    That was 20 years ago?
    Holy hell!
    Man, I loved this show.

  • @Sampletexto1
    @Sampletexto1 4 месяца назад +2

    This version of Batman is one of my favorites, the design is like, slim but imposing at the same time, it feels dynamic and fitting for a bruce that has trained around the world.

  • @bluekinghtbeyond
    @bluekinghtbeyond 5 месяцев назад +10

    Hmm, it reminds me of my video talking about the cancled or rejected ideas for the show. Hope more people get to watch it

  • @viruschris3160
    @viruschris3160 4 месяца назад +4

    I love this Batman series. I grew up with BTAS and Batman Beyond, but I accepted this series right from the get-go.
    I knew it was going to be its own thing and I really loved the artstyle. Sure, there were some things I didn’t like such as Mr. Freeze not being the tragic villain saving his wife.
    But I really love the designs and thought they were great. Even the movie was amazing and I thought it was so scary it was good especially with Vampire Joker.
    Not being able to use all of the rogue gallery because of some Embargo is stupid.
    Which is also one of the reasons I couldn’t get into Beware the Batman. I was willing to try with the CGI, but I didn’t like Alfred in that series or how Harvey Dent was characterized.
    And while it’s neat to see other obscure Batman villains, not being some of the classic backs sucked like Scarecrow, Mad Hatter, Killer Croc. Sure having no Joker was a bold move would’ve been nice to have in like Season 3 or so.
    But back to The Batman, I love the first theme more but I’ve come to appreciate the second theme over time.
    I really need to get this series on DVD.
    EDIT: Oh, apparently Killer Croc was in Beware the Batman. It's been so long I forgot mostly everything about it.

  • @tommyboyio1363
    @tommyboyio1363 3 месяца назад

    Calling Rag Doll "Rag Man" nearly killed me. You did my underused fav so dirty xD

  • @wallygator92
    @wallygator92 5 месяцев назад +19

    It would have been cool if Ratcatcher and Prometheus had appeared on the show.

    • @damntiscrazyfellowgentlemen
      @damntiscrazyfellowgentlemen 4 месяца назад

      Prometheus was in the show

    • @JohnWilliams-wl9px
      @JohnWilliams-wl9px 4 месяца назад

      ⁠@@damntiscrazyfellowgentlemenPrometheus wasn’t. The only media Prometheus actually made a real appearance in was Arrow

    • @damntiscrazyfellowgentlemen
      @damntiscrazyfellowgentlemen 4 месяца назад

      @@JohnWilliams-wl9px I thought it was the guy that put all of the villains in the glass cages

    • @JohnWilliams-wl9px
      @JohnWilliams-wl9px 4 месяца назад +3

      @@damntiscrazyfellowgentlemen no that’s the orignal show character Rumor, which was theorize to might have been planned to be Hush

    • @damntiscrazyfellowgentlemen
      @damntiscrazyfellowgentlemen 4 месяца назад

      @@JohnWilliams-wl9px oh right my bad man

  • @wxlfgray
    @wxlfgray 4 месяца назад +6

    Damn this was 2004 ? I swear I was watching this a little older… I mean I know playback but I could’ve sworn I saw the commercials for it when it was coming out

  • @Bobbybillybillbob
    @Bobbybillybillbob 4 месяца назад +2

    HUGE fan of this show growing up! Never seen the Japanese Penguin, Two- Face, Ventriloquist Designs! Thanks for sharing

  • @9klincoln
    @9klincoln 4 месяца назад +1

    The intro is HEAT

  • @lumberjack5035
    @lumberjack5035 4 месяца назад +8

    i love this Batman so much. Its what really got me into Batman and grew beyond my expectation, i liken this show constantly to Spectacular Spiderman. I pray every night this show gets a revival on MAX or something.

  • @Tinks27
    @Tinks27 4 месяца назад

    Growing up, this was my Batman. We had VHS tapes/DVD's of BTAS, but I was born after the series ended, so this was my primetime Batman fix.
    This show was very creative and you could tell how much of the team behind it were fans. It's a shame it never truly got it's true respect until now, it's hard to follow up BTAS. But this show did it's best, and I'd say it made a great attempt
    Great video btw!

  • @BLAZER_VA
    @BLAZER_VA 5 месяцев назад +25

    This series was the spectacular Spiderman of Batman franchise the animation and voice acting I've ever seen
    the joker even like to through hands

    • @Hunter-013
      @Hunter-013 4 месяца назад +1

      People that worked on spectacular spider-man also worked on this for certain episodes

    • @SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario
      @SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario 4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah XD
      It’s amazing how they have so much new life to Batman’s villians, with so much creative and bravos, it’s a a shame we won’t get something like this as I watched it (season 1) and it was an amazing watch and the closest thing well get to this in animation is the new ninja turtles movie (mutant mayhem) with how they reinvented all of the characters in such a new and unique way XD

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 3 месяца назад

      Nah that's cap

  • @valinsummers2565
    @valinsummers2565 4 месяца назад +3

    I hope you do a retrospective of Legion of Superheroes in the future.

  • @erikmoreno5973
    @erikmoreno5973 4 месяца назад +2

    I loved this as a kid. And years back it rekindled when I was in a bad car accident and was in bed for a month. The Batman was on Netflix and I was able to enjoy it all over again

  • @awild93
    @awild93 4 месяца назад +3

    It blows my mind how WB owned the rights to the entirety of DC and would actively choose to handicap themselves and pretend these characters couldn't be used like Marvel having to work around rights issues.

  • @somethingfunny2199
    @somethingfunny2199 4 месяца назад +2

    Fun Fact: Ellen Yin technically isn’t a new character. She’s an adaption of Ellen Yindel from The Dark Knight Returns. Much like her inspiration Yin had an anti Batman stance and was Gordon’s successor but unlike Yindel, Yin learned to respect and work with Batman before becoming Commissioner not during her time as Commissioner

  • @monobro141
    @monobro141 4 месяца назад +5

    Bro Two-face and Scarecrow NEED dat screen time I love the Dark Knight But they along with Catwoman and Talia had NO SCREEN TIME and my favorite villain Bane was only used ONCE as an actual enemy

  • @ericwilson8558
    @ericwilson8558 4 месяца назад +4

    I'm glad someone finally addressed this. Although this show was very good and cool, the show failed to show more interesting characters and expand their plotline, like the scarecrow, Harvey dent aka two-face, Ra's al Ghul, Talia al Ghul, some of the villains from Batman Arkham origins game, or even Black Adam! It would've been cool to see.

  • @SuperOveride
    @SuperOveride 4 месяца назад +4

    The Batman is a counterpoint to Batman The Animated Series. While the animation of the 90s highlighted Two-Face, Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow, The Batman wanted to highlight other villains less prominent in the animation of the 90s, such as Riddler, Killer Croc, Hugo Strange, Mr Freeze, Firefly etc... Because the producers of The Batman wanted to get as far away from the Batman 90's Animated Series as possible.

  • @carlintaylor3229
    @carlintaylor3229 4 месяца назад +4

    Still one of the best versions of batman we ever got the clay face storyline was awesome ❤❤ used to record this every Saturday morning

  • @stevenmattrell3448
    @stevenmattrell3448 4 месяца назад +1

    I remember hearing somewhere that Detective Yin was inspired by Yindel, Gordon's successor as the GCPD Commissioner from The Dark Knight Returns, who was similarly opposed to Batman's operations when she was first introduced. This reference went even further in the Dark Knight Returns inspired episode of The Batman where over a broadcast it's mentioned that Yin had been promoted to commissioner after Gordon retired.

  • @no.1spidey-fan182
    @no.1spidey-fan182 4 месяца назад +2

    25:54 BEST Scarecrow design I've EVER seen💯

  • @ahmedrana25
    @ahmedrana25 4 месяца назад +1

    Great Video! Thanks for a refresher on my fav cartoon!

  • @harsyakiarraathallah2222
    @harsyakiarraathallah2222 4 месяца назад +22

    My Hope is that not only this Series got a Revival but also the Batman vs. Hush movie. I Believe this movie could be Better!

    • @SantiBarrios
      @SantiBarrios  4 месяца назад +6

      They could totally revive The Batman vs Hush idea! It could be a chance to make a better film than the 2019 adaptation

  • @DetroitAlan01
    @DetroitAlan01 4 месяца назад +3

    The Batman had amazing visuals, interesting character designs and spectacular action scenes. But, it was light on substance and heavy on style. However, the Batman vs. Dracula OAV is terribly underrated and stands as one of the best Batman OAV’s.

  • @Turo602
    @Turo602 4 месяца назад +3

    The Batman was perfect for what it was. Yes, The Animated Series will always be more important and closer to what is traditionally expected from Batman, but The Batman still works as a modern and more hip take on classic Batman stories like those seen in the Adam West Batman show which is exactly what the season 3 intro is paying homage to and fits the series' tone so much better. As much as I really enjoyed this iteration of Batman, it does do quite a lot of questionable things with its character portrayals that weirdly aren't deal breakers and somehow work extremely well within the context of the show but I personally wouldn't want to see done ever again. Probably a good thing too that the show went really deep on lesser explored villains that most viewers weren't really familiar with at the time.

  • @AlbertWeskerOfficial2009
    @AlbertWeskerOfficial2009 Месяц назад +2

    Just underrated animation... nostalgia :`(

  • @tylerensminger
    @tylerensminger 13 дней назад +1

    The art style was unique and the Batman character i liked as he wasn't as ruthless as the DCAU version by the end of that

  • @moonstar247
    @moonstar247 4 месяца назад +10

    I wish they had more women like either black Canary and or Zatanna

    • @SantiBarrios
      @SantiBarrios  4 месяца назад +5

      I completely agree, it's nice that they considered using Wonder Woman on the show but if she wasn't available then they still should've adapted at least 1 female superhero, characters like Vixen and Black Canary would've looked really cool in the shows' style

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +7

    It's supposed to technically follow some events from the Nolan movies. One of the dvd boxes says it takes place after Batman Begins. Which could help explain why Scarecrow and Ra's never showed up. He aready met them offscreen

  • @JamaalSimpson
    @JamaalSimpson 4 месяца назад +11

    Rojas need to come back in the revival as that version of Lock-Up he have justifiable reason to go on that route to say the least.

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! I thought I was the only person that thought Rojas would make a _perfect_ Lock-Up.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 3 месяца назад

      I thought he should've been the scummy police chief in The Batman 2022

  • @martinchatz7346
    @martinchatz7346 4 месяца назад

    I really liked this video ALOT. I talk about this kind of stuff on my channel all the time, but this show means alot to me cause this was my first introduction to Batman when I was 5 and its the reason I fell in love with the character.

  • @clearMonk13
    @clearMonk13 4 месяца назад +1

    One big problem with this whole "Redesign" theme is that all the characters in the League look as classic as possible.

  • @mr.dalek2.028
    @mr.dalek2.028 4 месяца назад +1

    Since this is the first Batman I ever saw, and before I found him interesting, this series holds a special place.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 5 месяцев назад +3

    great job man

  • @daleanderson1727
    @daleanderson1727 4 месяца назад

    Great job. Again. You have more than earned a new subscriber. Please don't stop & keep up the good work that you are doing.

  • @milanunosson9355
    @milanunosson9355 4 месяца назад +3

    fun fact ra's al ghul design was reused for Dracula in the Batman vs Dracula

  • @TheMightyMRP
    @TheMightyMRP 4 месяца назад +3

    I loved The Batman, my favorite animated Batman show, the one I grew up with! Wish they'd bring it back like they did with XMen 97, but I highly doubt it'll ever happen.

  • @oblambo6896
    @oblambo6896 4 месяца назад

    I've been buying a season every couple of weeks on RUclips. I knew someone would one day bring attention to this underrated series.

  • @Jebbtube
    @Jebbtube 4 месяца назад +1

    One thing I liked about the portrayal of Supes in this series is that he was the loner who Bats had to get to be a team player; a twist on how it usually plays out.

  • @roderick8167
    @roderick8167 5 месяцев назад +11

    Yeah I was 10 years old when The Batman came out in 2004 and I was immediately in love with this show I didn't compare it to BTAS I saw this as it's own awesome show , also the movie that came from this show The Batman Vs Dracula kicks ass too 🤘🔥🩸🦇🧛

    • @SantiBarrios
      @SantiBarrios  5 месяцев назад +3

      The Batman vs Dracula kicks so much ass!! We were very lucky to grow up with such an awesome show

    • @roderick8167
      @roderick8167 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@SantiBarrios hell yeah dude , we got lucky growing up with so many badass shows

  • @jordanaftermath
    @jordanaftermath 4 месяца назад +1

    The introduction of Batgirl almost justifies the new theme song which goes from gothic and dark to a more light-hearted homage to the U2 song from Batman Forever and the '66 TV show theme song

  • @luis1237
    @luis1237 5 месяцев назад +22

    If the show does get a Revival The Villains they should use Is Scarecrow Two-Face Mad Hatter Ra’s al Ghul Clock King Crazy Quilt The Eraser Deadshot Merrymaker Reaper The Designer King Shark

    • @thebloodedge284
      @thebloodedge284 5 месяцев назад +5

      Also, the court of owls.

    • @DocBruceBanner
      @DocBruceBanner 4 месяца назад +2

      ...The Eraser?!? Really?

    • @ihavenoideaatall7381
      @ihavenoideaatall7381 4 месяца назад +2

      They did do clock king they just didn’t call him clock king. He was in s3 ep9 Seconds.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +4

      After what happened with the Young Justice revival, I'd rather they didn't touch The Batman series

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад

      @spencerthomas2519 they brought back the original crew for Young Justice, and it still turned out crap

  • @LazyEyeNZ
    @LazyEyeNZ 4 месяца назад +1

    This was the Batman cartoon that i first grew up with. I bought the box set on blu ray recently and its still amazing.

  • @GeekingAround
    @GeekingAround 4 месяца назад +5

    As a 90s kid of course I didn’t accept The Batman animated series at first. Same with the TNMT 2003 animated series.
    But when I did finally watch the series I really enjoy it. I love the more edgy anime style and loved a lot of the new character designs.
    However, I personally hated The Joker voice and design.
    Batman Vs Dracula was an awesome movie. And yeah with you, I would love more The Batman animated movies.

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m 4 месяца назад +1

      I didn't like the new BAT series either,at first,had to watch several episodes to actually enjoy it tho.But,eventually I did,loved the new animation also,it was well done,everything was top-notch and this show.Hope for another run if possible.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 4 месяца назад +1

    Thing I liked most about this show was when it was willing to think outside the box, and has some of my favorite designs of villains
    ie: Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, even Joker in the straightjacket with the long floppy sleeves

  • @VidGameMaster22
    @VidGameMaster22 4 месяца назад +3

    I enjoyed the show, as well as the Teen Titans, (Not the TTGO variation) as well as the 2003 TMNT. It's rare to find people who actually enjoyed The Batman, Teen Titans and the 2003 TMNT. Nowadays it's just TTGO and whatever current version of TMNT is animated.

  • @Gojiro7
    @Gojiro7 4 месяца назад +3

    Fans both new and old are still mixed on this show more than you let on, but one thing I can say for sure is that it clearly had a lot of behind the scenes trouble and had to change a lot to meet Network demands that hampered it from having a consistent identity, hence the jarring tonal shift from moody & mysterious into campy anime Adam West Batman

  • @downrightdreaming_5630
    @downrightdreaming_5630 4 месяца назад

    Very interesting video. It makes all the more sense for why certain characters never appeared because of the bat-embargo. Never even knew that was a thing. I always wanted to see Scarecrow, Mad Hatter, Two Face all three are up there for my favorite villains. With that said though appreciated the styles being changed and that we had interesting redesigns of the characters that did exist. It would have been interesting to see how they would change for sure Scarecrow since he’s never really been a fighter like Penguin.

  • @ChimichangoBoom
    @ChimichangoBoom 4 месяца назад +1

    This should have been the blueprint for how to make a Batman into a movie. You don't need to focus on him being The Worlds Greatest Detective or The Dark Knight, you just got to focus on making him The Batman. Their characters were different but they all work for this universe but they even elevated the metahuman villains to be more than just superpowered monsters, and maybe I'm biased because the Joker of this series was my favorite part but I think they did the best but different interpretation of each Villan.

  • @d.o.a9236
    @d.o.a9236 4 месяца назад +2

    I’m telling you I like so much the second theme song that I even thought it was the theme song of season 2 AND 3 not only the third season
    Both theme are great but the second one if more unique so I prefer it

  • @cademacleanYT
    @cademacleanYT 5 часов назад

    Fantastic video! On top of all your great research, if you through in the fact that the legendary U2 did the soundtrack this is a solid B+ superhero show

  • @gatorcroc7212
    @gatorcroc7212 4 месяца назад +1

    I loved Killer Crocs design and backstory in this series. Hes a coherent and competent villian

  • @BellowDGaming
    @BellowDGaming 4 месяца назад +1

    I said I won't watch this Batman till his chin is squared off just like the one in BTAS. It took 4 seasons for me to get into this series and when I saw the episode Artifacts which is a nod to the Dark Knight Returns and the current running Batman comic at that time, it blew my mind! That's my fav episode of this show.

  • @GabiBrooks
    @GabiBrooks 4 месяца назад

    This was my favorite show growing up. I made very detailed figurines of Batman, Catwoman and Joker with what I had available -repainting tiny dolls, sculpting new heads in melted plastic, making tiny outfits as close to the cartoon as possible -very rudimentary stuff. They're still kinda cute if I may say so. I loved playing with them as a kid and drawing scenes from the show. Good times.

  • @TheSmart.1
    @TheSmart.1 4 месяца назад

    Batman Vs Dracula scared THE FUCK out of me as a kid. Especially the bit with the redheaded waiter in the basement and the Joker bloodbank stuff. Peak Batman content lmao

  • @godofevil9468
    @godofevil9468 4 месяца назад +2

    I honestly feel like Two Face was unnecessary.
    ClayFace filled that role.
    Ethan Bennet was a childhood friend and lifelong ally to Bruce just like Harvey.
    After Joker drove him insane he developed a darker side just like Harvey.
    Him constantly trying to be either good or evil throughout the series is very reminiscent to Harvey.
    And he even got a redemption arc just like Harvey.
    I’m glad Two Face wasn’t used. It gave more spotlight to characters that don’t get it often enough.

  • @israelleon1949
    @israelleon1949 4 месяца назад +1

    I loved this series so much. I also wanted to see Scarecrow, Two-Face, Hush.

  • @anthonythomas305
    @anthonythomas305 4 месяца назад +1

    The Batman 2004 was a good show, but it shame that some ideas were rejected to this show. I really wanna see Two-Face again in that series

  • @adrianthearmorwarrior1605
    @adrianthearmorwarrior1605 4 месяца назад +2

    You should also talk about Wolverine and The X-Men.

  • @krono5el
    @krono5el 4 месяца назад +2

    Back at ma's house i still have the vhs tapes i would record this every week, still some of the most insane animation quality for a weekly show.

  • @kavindudilhara2824
    @kavindudilhara2824 4 месяца назад +1

    I remembered watching this as a kid, I never missed a single episode. This was like cocaine to me, Still gives me goosebumps listening to that theme, The best intro ever, and the batmobile... So DAMN COOL!!!

  • @SapphireKnight675
    @SapphireKnight675 4 месяца назад +1

    definitely a great adaptation worth the watch, and honestly, wouldn't mind Bennet making a return as the Other Clayface, yeah Two-Face already fills the role, but I'm sure those two happening at the same place would be interesting especially if they collide