BEN 10: A Road Trip Without a Road Map (Ben 10 Classic Retrospective)

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024

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  • @dcauwatchtower
    @dcauwatchtower  2 года назад +67

    That Omnitrix WDb logo up top? Yeah, you can get it on a shirt. You don’t have to thank me. (ONLY AVAILABLE UNTIL 2/13) dcauwatchtower.creator-spring.com/listing/omnitower

  • @CrossShade8144
    @CrossShade8144 2 года назад +207

    Alternative title. Mattie not getting why Ben 10 is so popular for an hour.

    • @MrWhatdafuBOOM
      @MrWhatdafuBOOM 2 года назад +25

      *SECONDED*

    • @MK-bi1hj
      @MK-bi1hj 2 года назад +14

      I think the current fanbase focuses more on alien force which I think he'd enjoy more (well seasons 1 and 2 ig).

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 2 года назад +12

      @@MK-bi1hj honestly he'd probably enjoy omniverse the most especially cause of the crazy animation and character designs and development of the universe and lore. Alien Force and ultimate alien were good but omniverse took full advantage of the setting and premise at least till the end when I feel they should have gone to more alt universes
      Though I still hate the rooters arc

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 2 года назад +5

      @@MK-bi1hj also omniverse has a bunch of bad bens so he'd get see that too

    • @lightyearpig12
      @lightyearpig12 Год назад +7

      Grown man rants about a dumb ten year old before gushing about his awesome grandpa and getting nostalgic for his own grandparents for one hour.

  • @brent1222
    @brent1222 2 года назад +125

    The original Ben 10 series was my gateway into loving heroes and superpowers. (They didnt air justice league or unlimited in belgium)

  • @dusanstojsin4938
    @dusanstojsin4938 2 года назад +36

    5:14 "Without spoiling any plot-points"
    *Shows White Diamond remove Steven's gem*

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 года назад +18

      Ah but we didn’t show that, we cut right before it. So YOUUUUUUU have spoiled the thing!!! 🤯

    • @SplashCity46
      @SplashCity46 2 года назад +6

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 Can confirm

  • @DonniedrakoE
    @DonniedrakoE 2 года назад +197

    Thought this was a inktank video at first lol, but I respect this nonetheless. These retrospective videos always hit different and why I keep coming back.

    • @pablosilva6932
      @pablosilva6932 2 года назад +3

      Same lol. When Mattie showed up I thought it was a collab, I only noticed 10 minutes through

    • @thebigdawgj
      @thebigdawgj 2 года назад +1

      Same.

  • @zman12bat
    @zman12bat 2 года назад +32

    This video really hit at the heart and nostalgia. As I was growing up, ben 10 was the best thing (apart from teen titans) and when my cousin prefered alien force, I couldn't accept that and I would try to argue about how ben 10 classic is better in anyway but now I can understand why he liked that more than classic, to him it was the same nostalgia I felt about the classic. I lost my grandma just recently and my mum almost 3 years, and I feel exactly how you did Mattie, at first regret of not spending more time with them. But like you stated in this vid, our loved ones are always understanding and we should just be grateful for the times we had with them. Thank you Mattie and the Watchtower Database for such an awesome and beautiful vid.

  • @PhantomKnight27
    @PhantomKnight27 2 года назад +109

    Ben wasn't even a jerk in most episodes of the OS and he sure as hell doesn't only do the right thing for selfish motives. First episode he thinks he can help people by using the Omnitrix because he feels like it was his fault. Is he selfish sometimes? Of course, he's a kid. Would you expect any kid to be entirely selfless? Would you expect any person to be entirely selfless? You especially neglect to mention the reason Ben 10,000 became a jerk to his family. It's because he took being a hero ultra seriously. He monitors the entire Earth and is almost constantly XLR8 in his down time to stop crime and make sure he can do everything fast enough to help. It's an opposite extreme as opposed to what he'd be if he was more selfish as shown with his character foil of Kevin 11 and thus is actually a different lesson to learn
    Yeah, upon rewatch I hated that they changed Zs'Skayr's entire motivation for no reason at all. Hell they never even knew what to animate him doing. He's just floating around doing nothing most of the time he's on screen. It's sad cause the explanation could've been a simple "Omnitrix discharged an energy shockwave when Zs'Skayr tried possessing Ben so he can't take that route anymore." It would've also been better if it had more build up, I can't deny that
    Transformation sequences are awesome, and deserve to be in more than one episode. Chances are when you see the show for the first time, you're not watching the first episode so the transformation sequences are an important aspect that do tell what the series is about and they're also just badass. Seriously... the stupidest complaint I've ever heard anyone say... so yes, you are wrong lmao
    Comparing Vilgax to Hitler? That doesn't even make sense... I guess it's probably for a joke, but the connection there is thinner than a string. His character was treated more as a force of nature, and thus doesn't have much of a character period. This doesn't stop him from being a great villain though in my opinion
    'Ben 10 vs The Negative 10' definitely needed more buildup. It's criminal that it didn't. Honestly, the episode could've been a 3 parter with a ton of buildup from the rest of the season which would've been so much better
    I'm surprised you never complained about how 'Monster Weather' treated Grandpa and Ben's discourse as a joke and used the exact scene where it's used as the butt of a joke especially with how much focus you put into Ben's character thinking he's a jerk the entire time. I do think kids would have to relearn the same lesson over and over again, because it may be the same lesson but you still need to learn to adapt that to other situations, though sometimes Ben was indeed way too much of a jerk like in the beginning of 'The Return'
    I'm hella confused on the thing you said about Mount Rushmore?? Like, yeah it happened but how could you mention that in an episode? Honestly that sounds like a good line of dialogue for a later Ben 10 series to fit more with the grown up aspect of it. As a kid, you think nothing of it whereas when you're an adult some deep and unnerving truths are revealed . It would fit tone and theme more in a sequel series is what I'm trying to say. I do love the idea of it being brought to attention though. However, I don't think it's a crime to use it without acknowledging it's history in more of a light hearted show. A bit of an overreaction I'd say lol
    I also don't understand you wanting a Ben villain arc??? Especially when you say that you were also kind of a brat when you were a kid yet never turned into a villain. You just grew up. I feel like you should've lessened your reaction in the video on that topic when at the end you do contradict it. Like, acknowledge that you thought it was stupid he didn't have one and then realized that it makes sense why he doesn't have one though you would've liked more episodes that commentated on Ben's character. I feel like that would've been a better representation of what you believe

    • @TheCreed1217
      @TheCreed1217 2 года назад +28

      I agree with you, there's a ton of weird nitpicks and complaints in this video. I dont understand why he thinks a child Ben villain arc is necessary? It'd be such a unbelievable heel turn to his character and Kevin already fills that void as being Ben's direct foil as a character

  • @LeviChurch
    @LeviChurch 2 года назад +36

    Every time you bring up a criticism I just keep telling myself "BUT THEY DO ADDRESS THIS LATER ON".

    • @CrossShade8144
      @CrossShade8144 2 года назад +33

      And my reaction to the fact that Ben has to keep relearning lessons was "How many 10 years olds actually learn something without forgetting it right after?"

    • @jaski4022
      @jaski4022 2 года назад +8

      @@CrossShade8144 Exactly.

    • @andrewmedley
      @andrewmedley 2 года назад +7

      @Levi Church it feel like he want the show like DCAU 'S Show ?

  • @toonhub3216
    @toonhub3216 2 года назад +17

    I would like to just make a quick and simple point. Steven universe was 13 at the start of his show. Dipper and Mabel were 12. Ben in the classic series was 10, being the only actual kid here since past 12 years old is adolescent. I have seen people complain about Ben being immature but comparing him to younger characters from other shows still isn’t the best argument to be made since there is a big gap in maturity between just a 10 year old and a 12 year old. I think that’s the most import point here not just that Ben is 10 but also the other characters he was compared to are older than him

    • @elywahl9520
      @elywahl9520 8 месяцев назад

      Wtf do you live cause adolescent means adult... Mate that starts at 18... Shit most places don't consider you an adult till your 20 because 18 and 19 are still teenagers... Teenagers are still children mate... Idk what 3rd world, marrying at 12, country you live in but that shits frowned upon literally everywhere 😂😂😂

    • @elywahl9520
      @elywahl9520 8 месяцев назад

      Also to be fair he isn't written as a 10 year old either mate... He definitly acts older then that but there are also time he acts younger, people arnt comparing their age their comparing their character and how they deal with things, which is maturity which has nothing to do with age... Ben ten never broke down crying thinking he couldn't do it, but Steven does almost every episode, literally becoming the main villain because of it... If anything Ben acts way more like a teen then the actual teens and it's hilarious 😂

    • @toonhub3216
      @toonhub3216 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@elywahl9520 “Adolescence is the phase of life between childhood and adulthood, from ages 10 to 19. It is a unique stage of human” one Google search and that is the result from the World health organisation, adolescent does not mean adult dude.

    • @elywahl9520
      @elywahl9520 8 месяцев назад

      @@toonhub3216 bwahaha ok and doesn't negate the rest of my argument mate 😂🤣 your still stupid but alas have fun ig

  • @michaelnoga3737
    @michaelnoga3737 2 года назад +21

    I slept on Ben 10 too but not to the same extent. I’ve been in love with superheroes since I could walk and talk, but I would look at commercials for Ben 10 and be like “… this is dumb how could people like this?” And then my neighbor got me to watch it and I became instantly obsessed with it more than him lmao. I was very little when the first two series originally aired and so I didn’t get the same experience of watching it week to week either. So the one bright side of growing up in the early days of streaming did have its benefits. I binged the first 3 series (although Netflix didn’t have all the seasons for each series so I was confused at some points lol) and again just fell absolutely in love with it. I would make my own omnitrix out of cardboard, duct tape, and dixie cups and create my own aliens and pretend which existing aliens I could turn into. One of the coolest birthday presents I ever got was the jacket from alien force/ultimate alien and a toy version of the Omniverse omnitrix that I wore a few days later trick or treating. And at this point I was watching new episodes of omniverse weekly.
    This series just has so much heart into it and it’s not only a cool fantasy and escape from reality, but teaches lessons like sometimes you need to learn the same lesson over and over again and among others that Mattie already mentioned. Absolutely loved this video and even if there is no video made about Alien Force, it is a must watch, season one especially. It’s a darker tone and is a great coming of age where Ben has to learn to be an actual hero without Grandpa Max, learn to make sacrifices and a ton of redemption for multiple characters… saying it out loud it’s pretty much Spider-Man lmao… probably why it’s my favorite

    • @robertcagatin3690
      @robertcagatin3690 2 года назад +3

      From a Ben 10 hater to an actual Ben 10 addict I wish more adults and anime fans or people in general were like that

  • @Jasonwolf1495
    @Jasonwolf1495 2 года назад +24

    Ok the random outburst about breaking a head at mount rushmore was just weird. It's not symbolic. It doesn't need to be symbolic. Blowing up landmarks for shock factor is old as the medium. They wanted to have a battle at a famous landmark that isn't in the middle of a city and could reasonably hide a plumber base. a giant mountain range in the middle of South Dakota works really well for that. It was practical.

  • @someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779
    @someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 2 года назад +43

    While I do agree about the character growth being repetitive, as a seven year old watching week to week it's not nearly as noticeable as when you binge the entire series in a much shorter period of time.

    • @someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779
      @someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 2 года назад +3

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 I think you'll definitely like the next show in the series since it prioritizes season long storytelling and character growth way more, probably the most out of any show in the entire franchise.

    • @aaronputhalath5551
      @aaronputhalath5551 2 года назад +3

      @@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 Am I the only one who feels like AF did a good job with the seasonal storyline but not a very good one with the characters. Like they during really develop, not were they all that interesting TBH. We kinda bored watching them.

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 2 года назад +2

      @@aaronputhalath5551 that's why I love omniverse cause it focuses on character development and world building the best. It also has great continuity with each arc connecting together and calling back to previous continuity
      AF/UA does do that but they never take full advantage because they're kinda bogged down by still trying to be anthological while also trying to have an over arching story and sometimes bad filler ruins the pace or someone usually forgets how powerful Ben and his friends are

    • @elywahl9520
      @elywahl9520 8 месяцев назад +1

      I honestly feel that' a big thing about shows that come out weekly is that they try to make the show for people who will watch 4-5 episodes a month... Not binge all 6 seasons in a weekend, my point is that most media that people consumed before streaming was made for cable and ads... Where not so much anymore, it's also why a lot of manga readers get upset with passing cause you can reread a like and look over page as many times as you want, read as fast or slow, and give the characters their own voice, but then it gets animated shit gets cut or characters talk/ move faster or slower then your mind thought😂

  • @guto5285
    @guto5285 2 года назад +30

    I mean in the episode "Kevin 11" Ben have a tiny vilan arc , he even join Kevin and agree in commit crimes
    However when he see Kevin don't have any problem in hurt people we see what he could have being if he don't had a family
    This is show when the ominitrix discharge throws Ben and Kevin away and grandpa Max hold Ben while Kevin is throw in the wall

  • @perry-1572
    @perry-1572 2 года назад +14

    I just wanna say thanks a ton for not only covering the series with such depth, but also being honest with your gripes with the show. I've been an avid fan from even since I was a kid (it was one of my "childhood pillars" alongside Sonic and Pokémon), but I have gripes with it that I feel like I don't really get to see being spoken about by most other fans. It was really refreshing to see the opinions of someone coming into the series for the first time, and I loved how you brought up really interesting points I never would have considered otherwise.
    This being said, I don't want to thank you solely for bashing the show, lol; I want to thank you for sharing your personal experience with the show. I'm a semi-frequent viewer, and I remember watching some videos where you went into some personal stuff about yourself, and I always found that to be both brave and touching that you're willing to demonstrate this side of yourself to your fans. The story about your grandparents particularly held great value to me both because it showed how much this show meant to you on an entirely personal level, but it also reminded me of how I had a similar scenario occur with my own grandparents, and how thankful I am for giving them the time I had when I saw them for the last time.
    All in all, thank you. Thank you for covering this show, thank you for being so thorough, thank you for being so compassionate, and thank you for doing what you do. I look forward to more content from you and the rest of the Watchtower crew in the future. Cheers!

    • @sharktenko267
      @sharktenko267 11 месяцев назад +1

      My issue is he ignored the fact that allot of his issues are addressed in the other like 3 series
      Like we do infact see what an evil ben would look like
      We see him grow as a person and understand and learn
      And by ignoring the sequal series he ignores the growth of Kevin as a character

  • @CapLives
    @CapLives 2 года назад +87

    As a kid I preferred Ben 10 Classic over the others but when I went to rewatch at the first 3 shows I found myself much preferring Alien Force the most.

    • @tpgamble
      @tpgamble 2 года назад +4

      I thought I was the only one!!

    • @aaronputhalath5551
      @aaronputhalath5551 2 года назад +5

      Same but to me OV and Classic were kinda tied as best.

    • @lawrencelord9777
      @lawrencelord9777 2 года назад +1

      Both are amazing for different reasons

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 2 года назад

      Omniverse is my favorite

  • @embermoto
    @embermoto 2 года назад +14

    I haven't seen Ben 10 in years but after watching this video I think its time for a rewatch. Ben 10 and many cartoon that aired on cable channels are tied to memories of my grandparents. We didn't have cable tv at my house growing up but my grandparents had it at their place. So rainy days or once it got to dark to play outside, everyone including the adults crowded around the tv and watched what ever cartoon the kids wanted to see. Ben 10 was a show we would watch often at those times.

  • @meat1939
    @meat1939 2 года назад +84

    Sure there's a bunch of character problems with Ben but you need to understand he is literally a 10-year-old CHILD! He doesn't need to go for a villain arc of course he is going to be impulsive.

    • @webtely
      @webtely 2 года назад +10

      Exactly he can be problematic at times but it doesn't mean he has to go full on villain. In fact there's a lot of people who relate to Ben as a character, he's honestly not that bad.

    • @toonhub3216
      @toonhub3216 2 года назад +7

      Also Mabel and Dipper were 12 and Steven universe was like 13 at the start so the comparison he made makes no sense since they are literally older than Ben so of course they’re less immature

  • @steelydyl
    @steelydyl 2 года назад +101

    The end of this video really shows what a difference nostalgia makes lol I showed my wife Justice League Unlimited and while it was this revolutionary experience for me each week as a child, watching it as an adult binging was certainly less interesting for her. Still, I can see how this concept was amazing for kids but doesn’t seem so interesting to me. Great video!

    • @ddb2024
      @ddb2024 2 года назад +14

      hell yeah JLU was amazing

    • @GoodMorningUSA1
      @GoodMorningUSA1 2 года назад +13

      Less interesting? I'm an adult and I watched both Ben 10 and JLU for the first time. They are great shows regardless.

    • @keremmazman3761
      @keremmazman3761 2 года назад +7

      Showrunner of Ben 10 Alien Force, Ben 10 Ultimate Alien and Justice League Unlimited is same guy, Dwayne McDuffie. You could like those two.

  • @dewott8251
    @dewott8251 Год назад +4

    You want a fun Ben Ten dive, you go to The Ink Tank, but sheesh this was done nicely

  • @andrews4717
    @andrews4717 2 года назад +6

    You seem to be missing the absolutely valid point that Ben is a 10 year old boy, a group of people notorious for not being well adjusted individuals

  • @DJPrimeAmvs
    @DJPrimeAmvs 2 года назад +18

    That rant in the middle of the video caught me off guard....you ok bro?

    • @DJPrimeAmvs
      @DJPrimeAmvs 2 года назад +2

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 those are some true words

    • @robertcagatin3690
      @robertcagatin3690 2 года назад +2

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 Oof

  • @btg-bp4vl
    @btg-bp4vl 2 года назад +23

    "Spanning 6 series," *continues to show gen Rex and secret Saturdays and not the reboot.* there are 5 not 6. Just because marvel and dc have crossed over don't make them the same franchise. Just because power puff girls and teen titans go have crossed over don't make them the same franchise. Secret Saturdays and Gen Rex may have a lot of the same staff but they aren't the same franchise as ben 10 just because one crossed over in a movie and the other in a singular episode.

    • @shadowlord1319
      @shadowlord1319 2 года назад +1

      Gen Rex & Ben 10 are both man of action properties so they are connected in that way I don’t know abt Secret Saturdays as I’ve never watched this show
      Plus aren’t powderpuff girl comics made by dc

    • @btg-bp4vl
      @btg-bp4vl 2 года назад +5

      @@shadowlord1319 still, you wouldn't say that souderman is a hulk property just because they are both marvel properties.

  • @thepanelbiter9915
    @thepanelbiter9915 2 года назад +5

    Shortly before Christmas, my grandfather passed. I kept convincing myself that I would be okay. I had my time with him. I never felt distant from him. Of course I would have loved more time with him, but that’s how you’re supposed to feel.
    But now I have a grandma who sleeps alone. I have cousins who are still kids, and they went from seeing their Pa every other day to never seeing him again. I have a mother and an Aunt who lost their father.
    Knowing how everyone else feels doesn’t make me feel better, but if I remind myself that none of us are hurting alone, that helps. His passing brought my family closer and it reminded me what truly matters.
    I don’t care if you make more Ben 10 videos. I think you would like the rest of the show, I know I did. But it means the world to me that you gave it a chance. Because at the core of this show is a heart and understanding of the human experience, for better or worse.

  • @crazyduplicate
    @crazyduplicate 2 года назад +14

    You're gonna PISS a lot of people off with this one, honestly.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 года назад +6

      Oh no! We’ve never had controversial takes before! 😜

  • @Quillobyte_
    @Quillobyte_ 2 года назад +29

    The bit about Mt. Rushmore feels like a stretch, if I'm being honest. Like, I get where you're coming from, but the stuff about the Navajo and fascism, while important and true, is probably better suited in a different show, and not for something in the middle of a fight with a random space alien. It feels too much like you're faulting the show for something retroactively, and not for something it actually did wrong. Sometimes a cool visual or setting can just be a cool visual or setting without any deeper meaning.

    • @Quillobyte_
      @Quillobyte_ 2 года назад +3

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 True. I think it'd suit the Forever Knights pretty well, given their whole "exploit-alien-tech-at-the-cost-of-the-aliens" thing, and the fact that they're already kinda related to the plumbers.

  • @rcbmmines4579
    @rcbmmines4579 2 года назад +11

    Definitely hope you watch and make a video on Alien Force. I think you'll like it more with how it handles Ben's character evolving. I grew up with Ben 10 classic but I actually prefer AF (which I guess I also grew up). Dwayne McDuffie's involved with it and Ultimate Alien. Omniverse is a mixed bag all around but it has some great stuff too. Higher highs but lower lows than UA.

  • @fictionalspirit4194
    @fictionalspirit4194 2 года назад +11

    As a Ben 10 fan and a fan of the Watchtowers content I was excited, but hearing the beginning I was a little scared not of the opinion but moreso considering how large this series is where Classic is just a small fragment and that it wouldnt be given it's fair shake... And even though maybe this review wasn't a shining perfect review confirming my love for the series I somewhat liked the review without the bias of nostalgia and the hindsight of the series as a whole and even if there's not another Ben 10 video ever I do hope this series gets it's fair chance because I like many believe that it's a rollercoaster of a ride.

    • @joshberninger8355
      @joshberninger8355 2 года назад

      Would like to see a retrospective of Alien Force a
      and Ultimate Alien. I thought this first series was just ok but really enjoyed the latter ones.

  • @izzyc127
    @izzyc127 2 года назад +3

    Mattie, if you see this, I’m so sorry about the passing of your grandparents and I know how you feel because as someone who is a current high school graduate, I sadly lost my grandmother in my junior year of high school. I’m sending you positive vibes and keep being you.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 года назад +2

      I sent to Mattie! Sending good vibes your way as well! - James

  • @Batgirl_fangirl
    @Batgirl_fangirl 2 года назад +12

    At the start of the pandemic, I pretty much did the same as you Mattie and started watching programs from when I grew up. (I so fell in love again with Totally spies!) Like you I never watched Ben 10 when I was younger but after watching this, I may just give it a go.
    Great video as usual. Looking forward to your next one🙂💛

    • @robertcagatin3690
      @robertcagatin3690 2 года назад +1

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 It's going to be a rough ride but I really hope you'll still enjoy it

  • @bobbyahmad5197
    @bobbyahmad5197 2 года назад +6

    Thank you for this video watchtower database

  • @marvelouscuts9683
    @marvelouscuts9683 Год назад +5

    Usually the main character of children show would be all perfect but ben is just the opposite thats why i like him so much

  • @AbjectPermanence
    @AbjectPermanence 2 года назад +25

    I'm not a big fan of Ben 10, but love seeing this channel branch out like this. Please do more weird things like this.

  • @mr.medina9836
    @mr.medina9836 2 года назад +12

    Ben 10 was always my favorite DCAU show

  • @thebigdawgj
    @thebigdawgj 2 года назад +12

    Midget is not a slur.

  • @Cattensu
    @Cattensu Год назад +6

    Some times it takes several lessons before the point truely starts to sink in.
    And classic Ben 10 shows that fact well.

  • @justagundam
    @justagundam 2 года назад +14

    You gotta remember that Ben 10 (Classic) is a *kid's* show.
    You're diving WAY too deep into it, but that's just me.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 года назад +7

      You must be new to the channel

    • @justagundam
      @justagundam 2 года назад +5

      @Watchtower Database Not exactly, but this comment was made during the bulk of the video, and I forgot to change it by the time it ended with all the positive stuff.

    • @justagundam
      @justagundam 2 года назад

      @FueguitoAzul Yeah but Ben 10 isn't.

    • @justagundam
      @justagundam 2 года назад

      @FueguitoAzul No it's not.
      I've watched it very recently.

    • @justagundam
      @justagundam 2 года назад

      @FueguitoAzul Could don't mean shit now that it's already happened.

  • @Amy-yf9zc
    @Amy-yf9zc 2 года назад +44

    that was great! i definitely feel like alot of your issues with the show are solved with Alien Force, the lack of character growth or stuff like Kevin being a child getting trapped in crime hell. atleast S1 and 2.

    • @keremmazman3761
      @keremmazman3761 2 года назад +2

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 Showrunner of Alien Force and Ultimate Alien is Dwayne McDuffie. Also Glen Murakami is involved too. And Art Director of Omniverse is Derrick J Wyatt. Best one is first two seasons of Alien Force. But season 3 is not that great. I think first arc in Ultimate Alien is close to Alien Force seasons 1-2 level but second arc isn't that great. Still it is better than Alien Force Season 3 so i would say Ultimate Alien is more consistent in terms of quality. Omniverse has too many fillers. I like the art style and most of the story arcs but they don't delve too deep into those. I would rank the franchise as Alien Force seasons 1 and 2>Ulitmate Alien>Omniverse>Classic>Alien Force season 3.

    • @keremmazman3761
      @keremmazman3761 2 года назад

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 Also Generator Rex is better than all of them.

    • @aaronputhalath5551
      @aaronputhalath5551 2 года назад +3

      @@keremmazman3761 That kinda unfair to NOT take AF as a whole instead of dividing in into 2. Also, I found OV fillers consistently more entertaining than the UAF ones.

  • @ashleytuchin7693
    @ashleytuchin7693 2 года назад +10

    I enjoyed the original Ben 10 growing up, even if I was a little older than the target demographic. Mainly because it was something I watched with my little brother. I should get around to watching the sequel shows one day.
    Also, I thought Secret of the Omnitrix was an actual movie, given that's how it was released on DVD here in Australia.

  • @driveasandwich6734
    @driveasandwich6734 2 года назад +5

    NGL, when I saw the thumbnail I assumed this video was posted on Ink Tank LOL.

  • @JoelFeila
    @JoelFeila 2 года назад +7

    Interesting I was well out side of the target audience, but I stilled love the show even from the first episode I watched. The fact that they just had everything in the world, magic, aliens, super heroes. Aslo I grew close to my cousin so have in a show with cousins are the leads was nice

  • @pablosilva6932
    @pablosilva6932 2 года назад +42

    9:15 I strongly disagree with using Ben 10k as an example. He's more like if Ben took the opposite route, he finally learned to be responsible, but he took it too far to the point where he lost his humanity(which is symbolized through the fact that he only showed his human form after accepting to be a little more like his younger self). But yes that is the main reason why I prefer UAF, classic Benn was so fucking annoying and a total douchebag

    • @TyRendition
      @TyRendition 2 года назад +7

      UAF is like classic but if he actually kept his development throughout.

    • @webtely
      @webtely 2 года назад

      Yeah totally agree and here's the thing he wasn't a bad guy he was just more serious about his job as a full time superhero and thought having fun was a waste of time and took way too much responsibility wanting to do everything by himself.

  • @bluesmallspark
    @bluesmallspark 2 года назад +10

    This feels less like a retrospective and more like getting things either factually wrong about ben 10 or looking to deep into the show meant for children during a time where it wasn't trying to do no gravity falls arg puzzles and shit. Like deadass it feels more like an over exaggeration of the faults of the show with some false claims of half truths

    • @andrewmedley
      @andrewmedley 2 года назад

      or something on with mattie life when they act like this .

    • @bluesmallspark
      @bluesmallspark 2 года назад

      @@andrewmedley fuck are you talking about?

  • @Mirrorcomics24
    @Mirrorcomics24 2 года назад +7

    This is basically my favourite show ever

  • @slashandbones13
    @slashandbones13 2 года назад +33

    I normally don't mind your breakdown of political subtext (many, many stories have it) but that is grapping at straws this time 24:00

    • @YoItsMatt
      @YoItsMatt 2 года назад +8

      “Grandpa always told us to leave a campsite better than we found it! I’m making the world better by further desecrating sacred land…. right? That counts!”

    • @tom_2258
      @tom_2258 2 года назад +13

      @@YoItsMatt yeah that doesnt really apply when hes getting bodied slam on that land by hentai hulk

    • @webtely
      @webtely 2 года назад +7

      Agreed it felt like he wanted to find something offensive about the show.

  • @PeterParker-yd6pi
    @PeterParker-yd6pi 2 года назад +7

    I think you're reading too much into this dude. It's a franchise made to sell toys. It's like you're trying to analyse the Ninja Turtles

  • @ticketthedog3781
    @ticketthedog3781 2 года назад +5

    IT"S HERE YEESESSSSSS

  • @JohnDoe-qy5eu
    @JohnDoe-qy5eu 2 года назад +4

    I remember Ben 10 would be on at 7:30 pm then the Batman at 8pm, justice league unlimited 8:30pm then Futurama at 9pm

  • @baileythewitchofvoid8784
    @baileythewitchofvoid8784 2 года назад +3

    Kevin's first appearance has him attempt and nearly succeed in committing mass murder I think space hell jail is ok for him

  • @medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6
    @medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6 2 года назад +6

    So worth the wait

  • @andrews4717
    @andrews4717 2 года назад +6

    I think you’re being way to hard on the show considering it’s a children’s show. It’s no better or worse than any of the other shows that have aired on Cartoon Network throughout the years.
    Also I feel the tangents about political topics doesn’t fit into a review on the 2008 children’s show

  • @noaholson9047
    @noaholson9047 2 года назад +11

    23:15 Nope i’m glad they didn’t do that in the show it would’ve totally been inappropriate for the style storytelling for the show Also that’s Roosevelt man don’t piss on Roosevelt

  • @mmstudios4538
    @mmstudios4538 2 года назад +7

    wow somebody is salty over a show from the 2000s

    • @YoItsMatt
      @YoItsMatt 2 года назад +1

      Nobody tell this guy about James’ Lex Plane monologue

  • @azrael_morningstar
    @azrael_morningstar 2 года назад +6

    Ben being annoying was probably because kids liked that. I did as a kid, with gwen being the balance of being a mature kid.

  • @mariolover2222
    @mariolover2222 2 года назад +2

    I personally haven't watched or really even thought about Ben 10 in 10+ years, so this will be exciting

  • @AussieDragoon
    @AussieDragoon 2 года назад +8

    Ben 10...It's no Dave the Barbarian.
    Also should have included Cake Recipes in the title. Will you never learn?

    • @ddb2024
      @ddb2024 2 года назад +1

      whos dave the barbarian?

    • @bobtherandomguy805
      @bobtherandomguy805 2 года назад +1

      When exactly are we getting that Dave the Barbarian content?

    • @skarloey1214
      @skarloey1214 2 года назад +3

      What A Very Yoppie Comment.

  • @TheInkTank
    @TheInkTank 2 года назад +23

    first

    • @YoItsMatt
      @YoItsMatt 2 года назад +11

      Seconded! Algorithm-feeding motion carried. Oh wait, you won’t get that one until later!

    • @ddb2024
      @ddb2024 2 года назад +5

      I KNEW IT

    • @DJPrimeAmvs
      @DJPrimeAmvs 2 года назад +3

      We found em!

    • @oakleyhasafoot7878
      @oakleyhasafoot7878 2 года назад +3

      K

  • @jeffharrisTXB
    @jeffharrisTXB 2 года назад +8

    Well worth the wait. I've been rewatching the first series recently, and man, there's a lot I've missed. I wasn't in the demos when the show first aired (to be fair, I have NEVER been in the demos of any cartoon of the '90s and beyond), but I'm understanding the roots of this global franchise a lot more. Can't wait to see you all dive further into the series.

  • @dionysisnance4204
    @dionysisnance4204 2 года назад +2

    this is a hug nostalgia for me i remember growing up on this tv show

  • @andrijherasymenko
    @andrijherasymenko 2 года назад +7

    Just watched and this was awesome! I hope someday we'll get Danny Phantom retrospective.

  • @GleeChan
    @GleeChan 2 года назад +14

    This is great. The only experience I have with Ben 10 is some NSFW fanart that I can never bleach out of my eyes and soul. Damn you internet.

  • @DJSkywalker716
    @DJSkywalker716 2 года назад +6

    The Grandpa time was the best part of the video

    • @YoItsMatt
      @YoItsMatt 2 года назад

      The Zaddie Washburn transformation sequence really got me

  • @ronaldjackson613
    @ronaldjackson613 Месяц назад

    You know one thing I love the most about the Benton franchise is how oddly similar. It is tone music, even model character sheets to the DC animated universe. And honestly I would love it so much to find out that someday. Maybe fan made maybe watch tower database made that Ben 10 years old or 16 years old or even both since a lot of times we get time travel shenanigans. I would love for Ben to be part of the DC animated universe. I'm just saying what have been was. Dressed up as Robin for a little while LOL that could be hilarious. I'm just saying where do I have to strong as background? I say have a little fun LO. L. What do you think LO? L?

  • @SpiderFansArt2006
    @SpiderFansArt2006 2 года назад +4

    Guys thanks for the great videos keep up the good work and most of all know we all look forward to your new videos!

  • @dreed138
    @dreed138 2 года назад +4

    You should do a what if scenario that Ben would have a villain Arc like you said I would love to see your ideas for one

    • @sharktenko267
      @sharktenko267 11 месяцев назад

      We already see that in a movie and he'll we see it in omniverse way later

  • @chidaluokoro9104
    @chidaluokoro9104 2 года назад +4

    hey ink tank is in this

  • @thepaladin4335
    @thepaladin4335 2 года назад +2

    My first episodes that I seen of Ben 10 was the one where he fight Rojo, the Kevin 11 ep, Secrets, and Ghostfreak. Then I fully watched alien force in it’s entirety n it’s currently my fav. Watched all of the classic series at one point n I liked it a lot

  • @ddb2024
    @ddb2024 2 года назад +1

    This is going good so far
    I'm gonna edit when I finish

  • @ArtaxerxesVI
    @ArtaxerxesVI 2 года назад +3

    I'd love to see what ben looked like each year during the time skip in the original art style and also 15 year old ben

  • @sustelsuk
    @sustelsuk 2 года назад +2

    Now this is a change from dc to Ben 10

  • @joshualawrence5253
    @joshualawrence5253 2 года назад +3

    16:38 “Zs’Skayr” is kinda pronounced like “The Scare” with a “Zeh”

  • @MineKurtMininer
    @MineKurtMininer 2 года назад +1

    love the new OmniTower logo (trademark pending feel free to use it James and Mattie)

  • @Underscorezeus
    @Underscorezeus 2 года назад +6

    Looking forward to more videos like this

  • @ilan_profile
    @ilan_profile 2 года назад +10

    THIS VIDEO WAS SO WELL WRITTENNN!! SPECIALLY THAT REFLEXION ABOUT TIME AT THE END
    Even with all its faults the first Ben 10 Show still its really memorable and oneof my favorites :')

    • @sharktenko267
      @sharktenko267 11 месяцев назад +2

      But it's not fair to call then faults when he only covered less than a quarter of the actual series

  • @ItsOver9000Productions
    @ItsOver9000Productions 2 года назад +1

    idk how i missed this video after like 3 months

  • @markmagician2471
    @markmagician2471 2 года назад +3

    Didn't think Ben 10 was a DC character

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 года назад +1

      (We’ve done videos on Freddy Krueger, Jason Voorhees, Minions…)

    • @robertcagatin3690
      @robertcagatin3690 2 года назад +4

      Ben 10 is the best DC character to ever exist

    • @azrael_morningstar
      @azrael_morningstar 2 года назад

      wb owns ben 10 and dc but dc is not with ben 10.

  • @Josh_Hammond
    @Josh_Hammond 2 года назад +26

    Mattie not everything has to have political meaning nor have to have depth all the time why can't people just enjoy things you know.

    • @YoItsMatt
      @YoItsMatt 2 года назад +1

      Not really sure how it’s political to say that destroying sacred land that doesn’t belong to you is bad? That’s a pretty easy statement to accept.
      Unless you meant the Squidtler joke cuz like… what do you think fascism is if not violently suppressing free will and grabbing power using armed forces?

    • @Josh_Hammond
      @Josh_Hammond 2 года назад +9

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 look i get the real world significance of the landmark but I doubt kids cared about that kind of thing and yes I get you're doing a video on a kids cartoon that's you're whole channel.

    • @Josh_Hammond
      @Josh_Hammond 2 года назад +1

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 fair I'll tell you what I won't get into debates about politics there's enough of that already and I'm glad you made a video about ben 10 who is my favorite and these are different times from when the show came out so.

    • @andrewfielding8126
      @andrewfielding8126 2 года назад +14

      @@YoItsMatt I must say that I am tired of the over use of the term Fascism. Being a tyrant who is conquering and destroying civilizations does not mean that the person is a Fascist. Fascism is a political ideology where the society is run by a militaristic state which controls all aspects of society. It in theory is supposed to fairly distribute the wealth removing class distinctions similarly to Communism. But like Communism it is easy for the people at the top to be corrupted and abuse their power.
      Anyway I just wanted to point out that not every tyrant needs to have the really overused label of Fascist.

    • @YoItsMatt
      @YoItsMatt 2 года назад +1

      @@andrewfielding8126 okay but why is it a stretch for you to accept that a fictional space squid who’s obviously mad with power, and later characterized as renaming his entire species after himself when he conquered it, as a fascist?

  • @ginofrancejr555
    @ginofrancejr555 2 года назад +4

    Awesome video you should do more retrospectives on Ben 10 and other classic action cartoons

  • @azistis_5539
    @azistis_5539 5 месяцев назад

    There's a crossover comic between Ben 10 and Justice League/Unlimited. A league of my own

  • @martinharvey-olson8553
    @martinharvey-olson8553 2 года назад +1

    Shoutout Blind Tiger

  • @houselemuellan8756
    @houselemuellan8756 Год назад

    The "monster squad" knew about each other because their planets are all in one system orbiting a black hole

  • @ITCamefromthePage
    @ITCamefromthePage 2 года назад +5

    YOU MADE ME CRY DURING A BEN 10 VIDEO! HOW DARE YOU! (Great video).

  • @themikx2939
    @themikx2939 2 года назад +2

    Yo I watched Ben 10 during quarantine too and was thinking mostly the same stuff. Honestly S1-2 of Ben 10 Alien Force were probably the best. Love the videos you all put out!

  • @kyletowers9662
    @kyletowers9662 2 года назад +2

    it's hero time

  • @noahharris6724
    @noahharris6724 2 года назад +2

    Are you going to do a video on Alien Force, Ultimate Alien, and Omniverse?

  • @kaihiwatari3390
    @kaihiwatari3390 2 года назад +5

    "Cosmic coincidence"? More like bound to happen because Ben and paradox did it

  • @IvanSanchez-ft3mp
    @IvanSanchez-ft3mp 2 года назад +6

    While i am liking the retrospective i have to say the comedy you try to add(mostly on the channel in general) just sucks, it feels like i am watching the Nostalgia Critic but 10 times worse.
    I'm probably the minority here but that's how i feel.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 года назад +1

      Daaaaaamn, that’s cold. Nostalgia Critic is the cringiest thing ever. No more comedy from here on out, ever!

    • @IvanSanchez-ft3mp
      @IvanSanchez-ft3mp 2 года назад

      @@dcauwatchtower lol sorry it just felt that way but i did enjoy the rest especially at the end with the Grandpa Max part

    • @IvanSanchez-ft3mp
      @IvanSanchez-ft3mp 2 года назад

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 You fooled me lol

  • @ThePodtower
    @ThePodtower 2 года назад +4

    This is the best video about Ben 10 by the Watchtower Database, hands down.

  • @houselemuellan8756
    @houselemuellan8756 Год назад

    Amazo my favourite Ben 10 villain frfr

  • @SpiderFansArt2006
    @SpiderFansArt2006 2 года назад

    I Started watching this show in 2018 and really enjoyed it

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 года назад

      Nice! Wish I knew who made this comment, but still nice!

  • @David_Gallaher
    @David_Gallaher 2 года назад +6

    Good golly, Mattie!! This is AMAZING! Like ... high quality amazing!

  • @Nite-Mite
    @Nite-Mite 7 месяцев назад

    For my argument, I want to compare this show to Avatar: The Last Airbender. Like you and Ben 10, I never got around to watching Avatar until years later.
    While I enjoyed both cartoons, Avatar was by far the superior show. It had a serialized format as opposed to Ben 10's more episodic format, and Aang was a much more likable protagonist when compared to Ben, despite both being playful and selfish kids. Avatar seasons 1-3 also took place over the course of a few months like the original Ben 10 cartoon, yet all the characters in Avatar managed to grow in organic and plausible ways.
    Ben had potential to be likable and have character development, but since the start of the series, for the most part, the writers just never gave him the chance. Ben remained an inconsistent non-character who became whatever the episode needed him to be. It's a shame because he has his moments, but he could've been better, as proven by Avatar.
    PS: That bit at the end where you described how you were an annoying kid who fought with your brother, before you two grew up and became close friends, hit close to home with my own brother and childhood. And I just now realized how the Ben 10 sequels showed a similar dynamic with Ben and Gwen. I also related to you losing touch with other friends and family as you got older.

  • @hey.its.BrandishJaye
    @hey.its.BrandishJaye 2 года назад +4

    1:02:15 When the edible finally kicks in.

  • @EddyStudios-it4cf
    @EddyStudios-it4cf 2 года назад +3

    This video is excellent

  • @SeeNo3vil98
    @SeeNo3vil98 Год назад +1

    Now watch the complete Ben 10 timeline explained and do Ben 10 alien force and omniverse

  • @casique_05
    @casique_05 6 месяцев назад

    4:12 super offensive including one of the reboot movies in there

  • @bobtherandomguy805
    @bobtherandomguy805 2 года назад +5

    You know it's kinda funny, Ben 10 was originally brought up on 12th Level intellects meaning the question was asked to James and Ted, yet it was Mattie who got saddled with the Hawaiian Shirt infused deep-dive

  • @tyronerossbach5794
    @tyronerossbach5794 Год назад

    Just a head's up I as well ouwn the 2 Dvd's that are seen in 28:50 - 31:10 scene!!!!!

  • @JustPatrickChannel
    @JustPatrickChannel 2 года назад

    Such a great video, good work bro!

  • @clubnubdub9079
    @clubnubdub9079 2 года назад +2

    23:21
    Everything in the video was but good God it wasn't that deep my guy XP

  • @blakethebeast3174
    @blakethebeast3174 Год назад +2

    I went from agreeing with only the Benwolf part to being delighted at seeing Kuro to the last part hitting uncomfortably close to my own experiences. All in all, worth a watch.