For all those who are looking at this video here are some clarifications. The water in the trunk occurs on the convertible models due to clogged drain ports, it doesn’t occur on the coupe. The smoke issue primarily occurs on the 4.4l (645ci) and is not as common on the 4.8l N62TU. If there is smoke it is due to either the CCV valves or the valve stem seals. This car did not show the symptoms and at under 50k it would be surprising if it did. Taking the oil cap off while running is useless. Take the cap off when the engine is off, use a flashlight, and look inside for sludge and grime (grit) this is evidence or to long of oil change intervals. Also look at the water pump for signs of coolant (water pipe seal failure) and look for oil leaking behind the alternator, hard to see but use a flashlight and if it’s leaking there you’ll see oil all over. IMPORTANT: If you don’t work on cars yourself, stay away. This is a $100k car new and it’s every bit a supercar, it’s very expensive to take it to BMW for service. It is not difficult to repair any issues, it’s just time consuming. The model shown looks to be in great shape, low mileage, and a 6 speed manual, it’s a very desirable car. I always felt it was like a larger Porsche 911.
Thanks for the real knowledge. this car sold for $15,000 Canadian, which is less than 12k USD. I didn't buy it but I think it would have been very nice.
I currently have one.... she's a beauty but I will NEVER buy another BMW.. too many issues and maintenance is WAY TOO expensive. There is always something wrong with this thing
That's what I'm afraid of..... Currently looking at a beautiful black on black convertible in pristine condition. Something about it just screams high maintenance.
@@maximilliangenius5572 don't do it lol... after the warranty ends it seems like the car starts to fall apart.... they look nice and drive amazingly though that's when it's not in the shop!
I have it’s smaller brother, 630i.. had it 3 years but I am on/off about getting a 650i.. I have sorted absolutely everything on my 630i, even upgraded the suspension with Eibach and fitted brand new 20” Veemann VC7 alloys. So if I pull the trigger on a 650i the potential is to start again with a list of issues.. Can’t make my mind up 🤷🏼♂️
Pro tip on removing an oil cap while the engine is running: You are checking for blow by: when the rings go bad, it will cause pressure to build up in the crank case and you can tell by removing the oil cap. If I were looking at a used car, and the owner told not to take off the oil cap, I would walk away. Just don't drive with the oil cap removed, just check.
@@gregs_garage you can screw Up the engine man, that is bad for the car... The correct form is start the car when is cold, wait like 5 mins, the turn it off, and check the oíl level, that the correct way
Bottom line is it is a high maintenance vehicle but if you are handy with tools to do most of basics then you are good , the are some things that can be costly , but it is best not to use this car as a daily commuter car gas mileage doesn’t cut it , it’s a nice fun car to drive but at the end of the day it’s a high end car with maintenance that has to be done as scheduled but 15,000 is a bit pricy regardless if it has 40,000 miles , i would offer 13,000 n no higher than. 13,500
I bought this car @ 83k + mileage on it @ $12. Is that expensive? I had $10k paid for its reinforcements. M waiting for it to reach 100k mileage before I resell it. It’s now reached 97k.
Yes, awesome engines. "ProTip": Get full coverage, even at its age, if your wreck it, parts are extremely hard to find and very unreasonable if you manage too. Other than that, your gonna love it?
@@Iconoclast113 I'd let it go for $36,000. it's practically brand new and only been registered a few summers. Been rained on a maybe 3 times. I have a short video of it on my channel.
Did the BMW 4.4 liter dual turbo V8 (in the 2012 650i on up) fix the problems associated with the earlier 4.8 liter V8? I know the pre-2012 650i (with the 4.8 V8) had lots of problems with leakage.
I don't know but I suspect each generation has its own german quirks and issues. Those 650i Gran Coupe are nice. Under the radar supercar. Would love to drive one on a long Interstate trip at 100+ MPH all day.
No, same problems and those N63 engines are even worse. Just look it up. I can’t recommend enough staying away from an N63 car. With the N62, if it had proper oil change intervals (5-7k miles), the car will be good for a long time. N62 still has a mechanical water pump (good thing as it’s more reliable and it’s cheaper to replace), and there’s still an oil dipstick!
Who ever designed these alloy wheels needs a kick in the bollocks. Change the engine and put in a Ford fiesta 1.1L push-rod ,AND THEN UNLEASH THE BEAST FROM ITS CAGE.
If the needle didn't move, the oil isn't "warmed up." And NEVER take the oil cap off while the engine is running. You shouldn't be allowed near a hood latch.
@@gregs_garage I would not have snapped at you like Will but as you witnessed in the video, oil splurges everywhere. Also there's a chance any foreign substance finding their way into your engine internals. Seems small but bearing clearances have tolerance in the ten-thousands of an inch. That like the width of one piece of paper.
@@gregs_garage On a BMW because it throws off sensors on any car because something could get in there while the engine is running. I mean if you want to break you shit dude it's all good.
DONT DO IT take it from me lol it’s not worth it this thing is EXPENSIVE to maintain and the parts are hard to find, something’s wrong with it trust me, they also love burning oil
I just bought a convertible 2006 model for $4K, 135K miles after spending $2500 on the engine. I think I can get twice as much for selling it right away but I am thinking about keeping it for 5+ years... Pray for my soul 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
For all those who are looking at this video here are some clarifications. The water in the trunk occurs on the convertible models due to clogged drain ports, it doesn’t occur on the coupe. The smoke issue primarily occurs on the 4.4l (645ci) and is not as common on the 4.8l N62TU. If there is smoke it is due to either the CCV valves or the valve stem seals. This car did not show the symptoms and at under 50k it would be surprising if it did. Taking the oil cap off while running is useless. Take the cap off when the engine is off, use a flashlight, and look inside for sludge and grime (grit) this is evidence or to long of oil change intervals. Also look at the water pump for signs of coolant (water pipe seal failure) and look for oil leaking behind the alternator, hard to see but use a flashlight and if it’s leaking there you’ll see oil all over. IMPORTANT: If you don’t work on cars yourself, stay away. This is a $100k car new and it’s every bit a supercar, it’s very expensive to take it to BMW for service. It is not difficult to repair any issues, it’s just time consuming. The model shown looks to be in great shape, low mileage, and a 6 speed manual, it’s a very desirable car. I always felt it was like a larger Porsche 911.
Thanks for the real knowledge. this car sold for $15,000 Canadian, which is less than 12k USD. I didn't buy it but I think it would have been very nice.
This was nowhere near a super car.
@@repnatl m6 is a supercar so it is near
@@renardplazar5781 But its not M6
@@oskartross8459 i didn't say it is
You’re not supposed to open the oil cap when the engine is running🤦🏻♂️
I don't think it can do any harm to the car - just make a mess
It's OK to do it.. But it will make a mess if you keep it off
I currently have one.... she's a beauty but I will NEVER buy another BMW.. too many issues and maintenance is WAY TOO expensive. There is always something wrong with this thing
That's what I'm afraid of..... Currently looking at a beautiful black on black convertible in pristine condition. Something about it just screams high maintenance.
@@maximilliangenius5572 don't do it lol... after the warranty ends it seems like the car starts to fall apart.... they look nice and drive amazingly though that's when it's not in the shop!
Are you the first owner? Did you PPI before purchase?
les nouvelles c est pire
This is not true for most of other BMWs
I have it’s smaller brother, 630i.. had it 3 years but I am on/off about getting a 650i.. I have sorted absolutely everything on my 630i, even upgraded the suspension with Eibach and fitted brand new 20” Veemann VC7 alloys. So if I pull the trigger on a 650i the potential is to start again with a list of issues.. Can’t make my mind up 🤷🏼♂️
You know oil can shoot out of the engine when u pull the cap off like that. 15k is a little pricey its 13 years old lol
Crying in european be like 15 k is a bargain
And its manual....thats rare
Would not buy as a daily but a weekend/summer car. Electronics and leaks can be prevalent.
2008 Bmw 650i i have a vanos variable camshaft timing adaptation stop 2a8c code
Pro tip on removing an oil cap while the engine is running: You are checking for blow by: when the rings go bad, it will cause pressure to build up in the crank case and you can tell by removing the oil cap. If I were looking at a used car, and the owner told not to take off the oil cap, I would walk away. Just don't drive with the oil cap removed, just check.
Apparently removing a cap on a bmw is fatal
tout a fait ca fait des années que je fait ca
@@gregs_garage lolllllll
Agree, and you can also feel some vacuum suction as you lift off the cap, a sign of healthy pcv system.
I bought the the vetted version and got ZERO issues!! Runs like a beasts and look awesome! No oil burn either.
What year is the one you got.
@@Frc77_o 2008 650i convertible
Alpha Man I have the same model and never had any problems..Just servicing regularly..
@@NHN-111 how many miles on yours... I just hit over 100k!! I may change my spark plugs.. Have you changed your plugs yet?
Alpha Man 87000 and my mechanic change them a couple months ago.. Running very smooth..
You don't take off the oil cap on the engine while the engine is running lol
Who the fuck does that?
why not? give reasons
I do
You always do that when buying a car, that's normal
@@gregs_garage you can screw Up the engine man, that is bad for the car...
The correct form is start the car when is cold, wait like 5 mins, the turn it off, and check the oíl level, that the correct way
As you probably know, not many manuals kicking around in the 5L. I'd say it's a good snag, especially at 40k miles.
I'm wondering why the car hasn't been registered or inspected since 2011. Was it sitting for all those years?
Bottom line is it is a high maintenance vehicle but if you are handy with tools to do most of basics then you are good , the are some things that can be costly , but it is best not to use this car as a daily commuter car gas mileage doesn’t cut it , it’s a nice fun car to drive but at the end of the day it’s a high end car with maintenance that has to be done as scheduled but 15,000 is a bit pricy regardless if it has 40,000 miles , i would offer 13,000 n no higher than. 13,500
I bought this car @ 83k + mileage on it @ $12. Is that expensive? I had $10k paid for its reinforcements. M waiting for it to reach 100k mileage before I resell it. It’s now reached 97k.
They usually have leak under the valve cover
Dexter Dex do you know why ?
Brian Troutman even BMW doesn’t know why😂
Yes, awesome engines. "ProTip": Get full coverage, even at its age, if your wreck it, parts are extremely hard to find and very unreasonable if you manage too. Other than that, your gonna love it?
I have a Stage 2 Dinan tuned 2010 with less than 6000 miles I may part with.
How much?
@@Iconoclast113 I'd let it go for $36,000. it's practically brand new and only been registered a few summers. Been rained on a maybe 3 times. I have a short video of it on my channel.
I got 550i 4.8 v8 6 speed manual love it
650 ?????
If you are making a video with audio why are you whispering? Cannot be heard.
I'll try to speak up Romero
Did you see any smoke? nope, just drops of soot come out of the exhaust.
lol
Did the BMW 4.4 liter dual turbo V8 (in the 2012 650i on up) fix the problems associated with the earlier 4.8 liter V8? I know the pre-2012 650i (with the 4.8 V8) had lots of problems with leakage.
I don't know but I suspect each generation has its own german quirks and issues. Those 650i Gran Coupe are nice. Under the radar supercar. Would love to drive one on a long Interstate trip at 100+ MPH all day.
il y a des problèmes sur les 650i ? LES 645 ok pas les 650
No, same problems and those N63 engines are even worse. Just look it up. I can’t recommend enough staying away from an N63 car. With the N62, if it had proper oil change intervals (5-7k miles), the car will be good for a long time. N62 still has a mechanical water pump (good thing as it’s more reliable and it’s cheaper to replace), and there’s still an oil dipstick!
How long you have this
didn't buy it.
Who ever designed these alloy wheels needs a kick in the bollocks. Change the engine and put in a Ford fiesta 1.1L push-rod ,AND THEN UNLEASH THE BEAST FROM ITS CAGE.
That’s a fuse box
And don’t open that when engines running ffs
If the needle didn't move, the oil isn't "warmed up." And NEVER take the oil cap off while the engine is running. You shouldn't be allowed near a hood latch.
why not take the cap off? give reasons rather than innuendo
Greg's Garage you are a cool dude for questioning other people’s hasty comments.
@@gregs_garage I would not have snapped at you like Will but as you witnessed in the video, oil splurges everywhere. Also there's a chance any foreign substance finding their way into your engine internals. Seems small but bearing clearances have tolerance in the ten-thousands of an inch. That like the width of one piece of paper.
@@gregs_garage On a BMW because it throws off sensors on any car because something could get in there while the engine is running. I mean if you want to break you shit dude it's all good.
The awful noises are enough not to do it again but I doubt it's harmful in any way. Something could get in there with the motor off too.
DONT DO IT take it from me lol it’s not worth it this thing is EXPENSIVE to maintain and the parts are hard to find, something’s wrong with it trust me, they also love burning oil
I didn't buy it!
I just bought a convertible 2006 model for $4K, 135K miles after spending $2500 on the engine.
I think I can get twice as much for selling it right away but I am thinking about keeping it for 5+ years...
Pray for my soul 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Manual lol ❤️
MATE REMOVINGTHE OIL FILLER WHEN SHES RUNING REALY MUPPET STICK TO THE DESK LET THE REAL MACHANICS REVIEW
english?
Ya it sounded like shit I'm glad you didn't buy it
worst car ever. i spend more time and money on this car for 1 year on the hole life on other cars.