Those sights were designed to be removed and put in the same side the ejection port is on, probably the reason you’re bending those punches, you’re forcing them out the wrong side. I’ve done a number of M&P Shields and they were never as difficult as you show.
@@Teejaye1100 it's a specialized tool, about $45 that will pay for itself the first time you use it. You can keep it or sell it afterwards. Just don't hammer and chisel out the sight for gods sake
I’ve been doing all my own sights for many years, and there is a gunsmith protocol always involved. PINS and SIGHTS are removed Left to Right, and Right to Left to reinstall. Nothing is better than a quality Sight-Pusher as it saves the gun-frame and finish (no-marring) and the same on sights esp. with Tritium veils or integrant make ups. And, I Mic all my centers. I’ve run many fiber optics none have ever broken, but their frames can be damaged. Solvents are the biggest problem. As a Note: The HI VIS H3 sights out perform the TFO or TFX by TRUGLO as the fiber optics on the HI VIS are not buried into the mount as TRUGLO does. I had the TFX-PRO on my little G42, but was very dissatisfied with the optic performance in bright-sunshine and when I ducked under any kind of shade. NO PROBLEMS with the HI VIS H3 sights, and I might install them on my G23/5 or G19/4.
After the second bent punch I would have S&W for some information on how to remove the sight. I just ordered a set of sights and to save myself some misery a sight pusher.
The green fiber optic being the brighter of the two, I'd use the green one for the front sight, the red ones for the rear (as S&W does for their newest "M&P Shield Plus" Performance Center model).
Scorpiuszeroone that's a deal gunsmiths around my way wanted 50 dollars or more I bought a sight pusher press for 45 and done it myself cheaper than these rip off "gunsmiths"
@@Sheild_against_the_wicked556 I'd say it pretty obviously comes out easier left to right per everyone that's ever done it. Can you get it out the other probably but it seems to be an easy process left to right
It would have been easier to remove the dovetail front sight "pounding" from left to right, which is possibly why you had to pound it hard enough to bend you brass punch.
S&W claims that the sights are non-directional and can go either way to correct minor left-right alignment errors. I was correcting my sons new S&W M&P Shield Plus that grouped great @ 10 yards but shot 2 inches to the left and whole E carp I thought the rear sight might have had a drop of solder on it. It took several HEAVY wacks with a steel tipped flat wide screwdriver that fit the grove well and I finally moved it about 1/2 mm, put the set screw back in and will have to retest grouping.
I hated the stock trigger. I live in MA. Due to our crazy laws, my trigger measured at around a 12 pound pull. Apex kit took care of that though. Great gun now.
How the HELL did you bend a brass punch with 2 wacks?!? Also, anything tapered or sights like these always come off from left to right, opposite going in.
What I wanna know is how the conversation went with the owner of the gun? I mean, how did you explain the new scratches on the slide? How did he take it? This is M&Ppunisher2
Gawd that hurt dude. Just seein' ya mar the Finish up like that. lol! May I suggest a small hand press next time. As that is probably an Industry Standard Press Fit holding the sights in place. Please have a conversation with MS Copilot on "What is used to press something out of a metal dovetail fit" Nice work though!
thanks great vido questions for you Sir it looks like thare going out from only one direction and same back in is it left to right or ot will work any direction? thanks
+Dj Project You are correct. The shield sights are pressed in VERY tight so I switch directions to see if they would budge the other way...... and no, they weren't any easier the other way. The shield sights are probably the tightest sight I've had to remove yet.
The sights enter & exit the same side of the slide! The manufacturer will tell you, most use open or ejection side. I use thin leather not to bitch up slide or sights!
Cheap/easy way is to just measure each side with a ruler (preferable in millimeters) to determine if you have equal distance on both sides. Better way is to use a depth gauge on a set of digital calipers.
How bout using a sight pusher and moving them in the correct direction both out and in. This way you don’t ruin your tools and most importantly the pistol. By the way it was not a simple install. The correct tool for the job!
Nice video. the only thing i would have done different is use a small strip of cardboard to protect the finish when tapping the sights out. thise sights look sweet!
Please be sure to remove the set screw on the new sights. I didn't see it and now I have a groove on the side of my slide... didn't see it until I pulled the slide out to check
I don't mean tobe an ass, I learned already from you what size punch to use and NOT to use. My question is where is your dial mic or just a small cheap micrometer and not guess where the center of the barrell is so as to get the sight exactly where it should be. FYI my 2 cents worth...
Just so I'm clear. When installing the HiViz front Sight, I will be sighted in just by centering the sight on the slide? NO Tweeks, or inspections by a Gunsmith is needed?
Nolan those cheap Amazon punches are crap. Imported from China probably. I went thru a few of those exact same kits. I finally plunked down the money on a set of Grace (Made in USA) brass punches which cost $34. I also recommend a Wheeler brass/nylon hammer $14 which definitely has helped removed stubborn sights.
WD40 the sights, let it sit for 5 minutes, repeat. Then use the punch. I flat off one face of the punch so it has a solid purchase against the sight. Worked for me even though my puch is just a 1/4" brass bolt.
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Those sights were designed to be removed and put in the same side the ejection port is on, probably the reason you’re bending those punches, you’re forcing them out the wrong side. I’ve done a number of M&P Shields and they were never as difficult as you show.
The rear sight slides right in OH NO LOL
I was thinking the same 🤔
@@NoNo_IStay the rear sights are held in with a set screw the front is a press fit
Come on man!
I want to thank you for your video. It has convinced me to buy a sight pusher.
I was pretty appauled by that too. I'm like. Nooooo the finish on the slide! Da fuq are you doing?
What’s a sight pusher?
@@Teejaye1100 It's a device the 'pushes your sites' out. ?
@@Teejaye1100 it's a specialized tool, about $45 that will pay for itself the first time you use it. You can keep it or sell it afterwards. Just don't hammer and chisel out the sight for gods sake
@@chadwickcloister5143 Thanks
Great video on how to misuse and destroy punches, as well as potentially damaging a pistol.
Call a gunsmith who has proper tools and basic knowledge.
You convinced me not to try this on my own.
He did it wrong haha
I’ve been doing all my own sights for many years, and there is a gunsmith protocol always involved. PINS and SIGHTS are removed Left to Right, and Right to Left to reinstall. Nothing is better than a quality Sight-Pusher as it saves the gun-frame and finish (no-marring) and the same on sights esp. with Tritium veils or integrant make ups. And, I Mic all my centers. I’ve run many fiber optics none have ever broken, but their frames can be damaged. Solvents are the biggest problem. As a Note: The HI VIS H3 sights out perform the TFO or TFX by TRUGLO as the fiber optics on the HI VIS are not buried into the mount as TRUGLO does. I had the TFX-PRO on my little G42, but was very dissatisfied with the optic performance in bright-sunshine and when I ducked under any kind of shade. NO PROBLEMS with the HI VIS H3 sights, and I might install them on my G23/5 or G19/4.
Great insight sir! thank you for posting this.
I picked up the performance version with these sights the other day, I really dig the sights :)
After the second bent punch I would have S&W for some information on how to remove the sight. I just ordered a set of sights and to save myself some misery a sight pusher.
The green fiber optic being the brighter of the two, I'd use the green one for the front sight, the red ones for the rear (as S&W does for their newest "M&P Shield Plus" Performance Center model).
And if your shooting at a red bullseye the red front will blend right in
Yeah green in front definitely the way to go. That's how mine is setup.
Yep
M&P Shield sights are notoriously tight. I had night sights put on mine, but I had a really good gunsmith do it with a good sight pusher. Was $15.
Scorpiuszeroone that's a deal gunsmiths around my way wanted 50 dollars or more I bought a sight pusher press for 45 and done it myself cheaper than these rip off "gunsmiths"
He's doing it wrong. Supposed to go the other direction when installing and uninstalling.
If you buy the sights from them they usually do it for free. So it's worth it to buy it from your local gunshop.
Lmao: You were doing it the wrong way, they come out the same direction the shells do.
Exactly
Someone else’s gun😜
According to Smith and Wesson that doesn’t matter
i know Im kind of randomly asking but does anybody know a good place to watch newly released movies online?
@Reyansh Leroy I would suggest flixzone. Just google for it :)
As long as this channel has been around, you'd think he would have a quality sight pusher on hand.
Great video thanks for taking the time to post!!
Thanks for posting, learned a lot, and also thank you to those who posted more info below. Great Video, great lessons learned.
How do you know there lined up correctly ? You already put t lock tight on so I’m assuming there is a way to know before you shoot it ?
You didn't have to heat the ends of the fiber optic rods?
Dang man that’s a lot of punches you went through. Thanks for video
Two minutes in and the pistol had already claimed the lives of two punches lol
😂 😂 😂
Shield is more lethal than we knew. Lol
Just admit you were hitting it the wrong way, some people don't know and will continue to do so.
Per Smith and Wesson: it does not matter. The sights come out left or right.
@@Sheild_against_the_wicked556 I'd say it pretty obviously comes out easier left to right per everyone that's ever done it. Can you get it out the other probably but it seems to be an easy process left to right
@@garykee9117 to be fair, you're supposed to use a press. Not hammer it out.
When I hear the words vice and pound when it come to any gun that worries me.
@Semper Fi we actually use a specific tool for this not a gd hammer lol. Its called a universal sight remover...
Great sights I have a set on my Glock 17 I use red front and black rear the work great for steal plate competitions good video men.
Are they durable? I'm looking into getting them for my m&p 2.0 but I'm worried that they'll break easily
It would have been easier to remove the dovetail front sight "pounding" from left to right, which is possibly why you had to pound it hard enough to bend you brass punch.
m&p sights go left to right to come out
Wait.....what? Is that important? (lol).
@Semper Fi I have always heard left to right. And notice... He ended up getting it out by going left to right.
joe sevigny according to Smith and Wesson it doesn’t matter , they’ll come out either way
@@Cjmann1ng2 strange that it didn't work.
@@alexandersylvain1117 funny it worked for me and 2 of my friends
How much did the green and red sights cost. I will have the gun smith put them on for me. White sights came with my gun, what is the difference?
So many experts..
should I put the threadlocker blue on the screw? Will the sight fall out if I dont?
That was hard to watch.
I installed tritium Truglo sights on a Glock model 30 gen 3
And will never go anything else.
that looks great man!
+Jarhead6 Thanks Man
S&W claims that the sights are non-directional and can go either way to correct minor left-right alignment errors. I was correcting my sons new S&W M&P Shield Plus that grouped great @ 10 yards but shot 2 inches to the left and whole E carp I thought the rear sight might have had a drop of solder on it. It took several HEAVY wacks with a steel tipped flat wide screwdriver that fit the grove well and I finally moved it about 1/2 mm, put the set screw back in and will have to retest grouping.
This gun is a great gun...I kept my gun stock I love the sights and trigger...
+Danny Di Definitely nothing wrong with the shield right out of the box. It's a great gun!
I hated the stock trigger. I live in MA. Due to our crazy laws, my trigger measured at around a 12 pound pull. Apex kit took care of that though. Great gun now.
BREWINZ 12lbs?? Brutal
Did you make a video on replacing the trigger?
Is there a part number # for the fiber optic removal tool with replacement colors ? Thanks
How the HELL did you bend a brass punch with 2 wacks?!? Also, anything tapered or sights like these always come off from left to right, opposite going in.
Did you knick the front of slide on front Sight ??
Yes. This is painful to watch.
What I wanna know is how the conversation went with the owner of the gun? I mean, how did you explain the new scratches on the slide? How did he take it? This is M&Ppunisher2
I pick up my shield Thursday I can not wait to do the trigger install ..and the sights
did you hammer the sights out the wrong way? dont they come out the same direction as the brass ejects out of the gun when shooting?
What is the height of these sights after you installed them...
Gawd that hurt dude. Just seein' ya mar the Finish up like that. lol!
May I suggest a small hand press next time. As that is probably an Industry Standard Press Fit holding the sights in place.
Please have a conversation with MS Copilot on "What is used to press something out of a metal dovetail fit"
Nice work though!
Thank you- looks like Christmas (for the owner/defender).
Is this how you can adjust for windage I’m shoot but the impact is 5 in left at 7 yards
thanks bro, i just did my but color is different lol , green at front red at rear lol... next is my trigger replace.... love the shield....
I used a $40 Amazon sight Pusher tool on my 45 Shield. Worked like a charm.
On my 2.0, i bent 4 punches installing the Wilson combat sight. Such a pain in the ass
Use nylon punches for sights
lol That is why I bought a sight pusher tool. Had the same problem. Plus penetrating oil helps a lot.
thanks great vido questions for you Sir it looks like thare going out from only one direction and same back in is it left to right or ot will work any direction?
thanks
+David Adiv Sorry for the delayed response David. They can be punched out either direction.
Nice Video !! Pusher may cost less than those beautiful drifts, But great video !
Vism has a great sight pusher Blue anodized with case and jigs under $50.00 E-
You can use a popsicle stick for the spring cover plate ;)
does this fit on 2.0 compact?
Love the sights....I may get right tool for job though so slide not marred up
If u tape the end of your brass punches there won't be any brass transfer. On the sight or the slide.
Will these work on the EZ 9MM S&W Shield?
Great vid
wonder why mine are not glowing in the dark??? i have the red in the back and green in front. In the dark i cant see them... What is wrong?
Will this fit an M&P 9MM 2.0 FULL SIZE
You supposed to hammer those sights to the ejection port side.
Sweat camera ru using? Amazing picture!
+Desert Trance Thanks Man, its a Canon HF G40
Great video
What kind of trigger are you using?
Does these light up in the dark?
Would this work on a M&P shield plus?
I thought sights are supposed to be removed to the direction of the ejection port? Hope he didn’t mess up the slide!
He did, scratched it trying to beat on the wrong side.
I had these same sights installed on my S&W M&P 45 ACP now my gun shoots low, way! Low. So not happy.
You say they can be pushed either way but I backed up the video and it looked like you changed the direction you were pushing. Am I wrong?
+Dj Project You are correct. The shield sights are pressed in VERY tight so I switch directions to see if they would budge the other way...... and no, they weren't any easier the other way. The shield sights are probably the tightest sight I've had to remove yet.
All these funky colors, your friend must want a toy looking gun. What's next, a blue steel slide?
+Dustin Hunt If you don't do with the bright colored fiberoptic sights it kind of defeats the purpose
@@NolanOutdoors - Nah man, he wants some blacked out, smoked FO sights. 🙄
The sights enter & exit the same side of the slide! The manufacturer will tell you, most use open or ejection side. I use thin leather not to bitch up slide or sights!
How do you know the front sight is centered?
Cheap/easy way is to just measure each side with a ruler (preferable in millimeters) to determine if you have equal distance on both sides. Better way is to use a depth gauge on a set of digital calipers.
@@cjanquart Or a reference mark.
How bout using a sight pusher and moving them in the correct direction both out and in. This way you don’t ruin your tools and most importantly the pistol. By the way it was not a simple install. The correct tool for the job!
Should’ve tried lubricating the front site first before starting to hammering it. Maybe that would’ve been less time consuming. In my opinion.
Cool beans bro!
+The Reaper Of Reapers Thanks Reaper
How do those Hi Viz work? Is there a battery needed?
yes 9volt block
I believe they come off easier from left to right
Nice video. the only thing i would have done different is use a small strip of cardboard to protect the finish when tapping the sights out. thise sights look sweet!
them brass punches from Harbor Freight?
+nocknload It's a cheap wheeler set I bought in amazon. They are complete garbage
I have the same wheeler set, I agree they are junk
That’s what I was thinking 🤣🤣🤣
Please be sure to remove the set screw on the new sights. I didn't see it and now I have a groove on the side of my slide... didn't see it until I pulled the slide out to check
I don't mean tobe an ass, I learned already from you what size punch to use and NOT to use. My question is where is your dial mic or just a small cheap micrometer and not guess where the center of the barrell is so as to get the sight exactly where it should be. FYI my 2 cents worth...
He said he would center it off camera........probably used it then.
Would these sights work with the m&p 2.0?
Good guy Jigsaw I have the same question.
I'm sure you have bought a sight pusher by now... this way works but you can mess up finish doing this. Sight pusher 50 bucks
Damn, I wish you would of showed on camera how hard you had to hit that front sight to get it off!
Ha ha ha I have lots of fun watching this, but he did it !
Just so I'm clear. When installing the HiViz front Sight, I will be sighted in just by centering the sight on the slide? NO Tweeks, or inspections by a Gunsmith is needed?
+D. Smith If you center is up you should be good to go.
Nice job. Sure wish the lighting was better though.
Nolan those cheap Amazon punches are crap. Imported from China probably. I went thru a few of those exact same kits. I finally plunked down the money on a set of Grace (Made in USA) brass punches which cost $34. I also recommend a Wheeler brass/nylon hammer $14 which definitely has helped removed stubborn sights.
or see if you can find someone with a sight pusher, might have prevented boogering up the slide.
+cnick6 I'm completely agree..... I definitely need to invest in a quality set for sure!
Wow...….that's very scary trying to change a sight. I don't know if I going to do that.
Bought the Hi Viz shield 9 Model and they suck at nite, switching to truglo TFO
how is it in the dark?
My Shield came with these sights. They work great when there's plenty of light, but disappear into near nothingness in low light conditions.
i have the same issue.... not sure if this supposed to be like this?
@@zimi1975 Those only work when there's plenty of light to collect and focus down those tubes.
@zimi1975 these are fiber optic not night sight
Hey bud
Ballistol is mineral oil aka baby oil.
$1 for a can a dollar tree.
Yeah but u didn’t mention u we’re doing it wrong side they come out on the ejection side
That's a good thing to see when you're buying stuff..... except for cars. And except when the price is too much for what you want. Lol
i have these on my security 9, but i want some for my shield
What kinda trigger is that. I too have a M&p shield compact. Great video btw.
He said apex trigger
Did mine the other day. Not as easy as it seems. Had to cool the slide to get them to come out.
i guess u gotta buy rear and front separate
Left to right on dovetail sights
Wrong....smith and wesson sights come out either direction....this is per smith and wesson themselves..
I'm curious to how cheap those punches were lol
They were made of brass..... Brass is softer than steel.... what do you expect to happen?
Stops the camera, google's "M&P dovetail direction" LOL.
Umm, a great video of your hand and arm, lol!
WD40 the sights, let it sit for 5 minutes, repeat. Then use the punch. I flat off one face of the punch so it has a solid purchase against the sight. Worked for me even though my puch is just a 1/4" brass bolt.
Can you elaborate on the punch modification ? Does the wd40 actually make a difference? Mine wont budge even with a steel punch.
Keep in mind you can not remove rears on a shield plus. I tried MGW TOOL or a heavy hammer and chisel they are pressed on .
You put the new sight in the wrong way also.. Dam bro, but thank God that ain't my pistol I would be pissed off