the badlands era on tumblr was insane. colors had everyone in a chokehold. _you were red and you liked me cause I was blue. but you touched me and suddenly I was a lilac sky, and you decided purple just wasn't for you_ like???? the girlies were THRIVING
it was an animatic of gravity falls pine twins of stan and stanly to colors that was my introduction to hasley. always feel so amazing listening to her badlands and pre badlands albums, her newer music is good too, but damn that album is so increible
I still have my bubblegum blue limited edition Badlands vinyl record from back when it was released in 2015. Just to make it a bit more painful for us all I’ll put a gentle reminder that it was released 8 years ago now and we’re all old :)
@Henny.777 When I read things like these and I see them often, I always feel like an actual old person is one day gonna roll up and punch a young person who is pretending to be old square in the face.
Now with the context, I find it kinda cute 🥰 I'm an amateur signer, and I can really see she kinda knows she's a bit off because of the stress but powering through it, just like I am when I totally messed up at karaoke! She has bad posture, no back music, in the middle of a mall, all nervous to sing for Tumblr teens... it's sweet!
To be fair no one understood what a digital footprint *actually* was until a few years ago 😭 Jeffree Star still somehow managed to be signed to Akon (a black man) when he did music, even after all the stuff he’s been recorded saying within around the same time 🤣
@Henny.777 honestly I was constantly reminded of digital footprint when I was growing up, I guess the idea is more widespread now, but the concept has been around since at least the early 2000s
@@xXnymphXx Yeah but it wasn’t as prominent back then, I was obviously taught to be careful what you post online etc etc, but only in recent years have people ACTUALLY started digging into people’s old social media accounts and posts. I never said it *wasn’t* a thing, I’m simply saying it was a lot less big of a deal back then, and that can actually clearly be proven by the way celebrities used to post on their social platforms back in the day. Bella Hadid had an eating disorder themed tumblr for gods sake.
@@Tw0Dots HAHAHA I know right it’s so goddamn random?? If you go and listen to his song ‘Prom night’ at the beginning of it you’ll hear metal bars clanging together and a voice saying ‘convict!’, that’s Akon’s producer tag 😭
@@lexiright5609 I didn't stand for what they did to her, but I don't like innocent babies being killed unless it's for health reasons. So what Ashley did after the miscarriage is completely understandable and shouldn't be hated on.
the "accidentally calling for 9/11 2" tweet reminds me of when a lorde posted a pic of a bathtub with iii will always love youuu cause she likes having bathes with no prior knowledge of how whitney houston died. this is what my anxiety tells me will happen every time i open my mouth
That felt way more like fans having not so nice interactions with them honestly. like that's not "lashing out" that's a person on the verge of a breakdown
It’s crazy to me Halsey saying please don’t be mean to me, I have a busy day too is considered lashing out at her fans😭😂 if somebody slightly raises their voice at me, I’m like hey now, let’s not do that.💀💀💀
I was at a protest in Hollywood and almost got fully run over by a food truck . They stopped, and then Halsey and Machine Gun Kelly got out with armfuls of beef jerky to pass out to the crowd. LA is a fever dream.
I legit cant tell if this is a joke 😭 it sounds so surreal Like couodnt tell if your were being deadass, or if this is one of those fake “Drew Gooden ran up to me & threw a slice of cheese in my face, while also denouncing France” things thats on YT or something lmao
@@alicemuguet6947 its supposed to be like all jokes dont worry lol It was like a copypasta or meme or whatever haha. The ppl would only say silly things, not bad stuff. Also my bad if you were being sarcastic, Im bad with that type of stuff
Halsey album 'If I Can't Have Love, I Want Power' is criminally underrated imo. Still listening through it 2 years later, it inspired me to fight through my mental health struggles.
@@OGseoulite haven’t we all done cringe and embarrassing stuff as younger people and even as adults? You can’t recall anything you’d want to stay in the past?
@@leilaniz5909 not sure if you didn’t know but it’s because Halsey uses she/her along with they/them pronouns, so the comment above is just referring to Halsey with one of their preferred pronouns 😄
These videos have really made me more conscious about the trend of being mean and judgy to young women on the internet, and takes me back to my very embarrassing and problematic early teen years
@@hotsexyangel no not that, like obviously I realized that was very problematic behaviour from 11 year old me and have moved on, these videos have just made me realize that almost every young woman in the public eye faced harsh criticism from so many people their own age for simple things like dating someone. While that is something I've always known on some level, having that be consistent in every video has just made me conscious of how widespread it is
I’m SO grateful for being the age where the internet was still running on a 56k modem that was hooked to a landline and it took three hours to download one song from Napster. If my teenage years were during the age of smartphones and social media, I’d never have survived…
I recall my sister saying she was Tri-Bi 1) bisexual 2) biracial 3) and bipolar Do with that what you will but it has always floated the back of my head for better or worse
@@pixiestxNyomoufhalsey said this herself lol and as a fully black woman that is bisexual and struggles with mental health issues i can definitely relate. the more intersections you fit into, the less respect people have for you. even being white passing she still faces a lot of hate, it’s upsetting honestly..
about the japanese album release: it's by no means a halsey-specific thing, actually something that a lot (if not most or all?) western bands and artists signed to major labels do. to paraphrase the "japanese edition" wikipedia article: because it costs more to manufacture albums in japan, labels make these "special" albums with extra bonus tracks that aren't available in the standard edition releases to incentivise japanese people to buy albums that are made in-land instead of importing from elsewhere.
it’s also very common in Kpop, too, since the music market is so large there and they’re more likely to accept the idols as opposed to overseas in European countries or North America.
I'm only 40 minutes into the video but I just wanna add that Halsey has recently been diagnosed with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, Sjögren's syndrome, mast cell activation syndrome, and POTS on top of already dealing with endometriosis. I'm 20 y/o and I have all of those things too and they have RUINED my life. The hallmark of EDS is unexplained, widespread agony every single second of every day for years until someone FINALLY believes you and runs tests and puts all the pieces together. I can't even describe what living with this shit is like. She must be so fucking strong to even be able to walk and move at all. It's really hard for us EDSers or "zebras" to cope with knowing there is no cure and we are always told by doctors that will will never be without pain every day and hopefully it can be turned down from a 9 or 10/10 to maaaaaybe a 5, whereas a normal person with normal cells is at a 3 or so on a bad day. The pain is unexplained and constant and we also get injured and fall and break bones and bleed and bruise really easily and it often never heals bc of our cellular makeup. So, I have some serious respect for Halsey and I hope I can be as strong as them someday soon.
I actually had a section in this video but cut it out because I wasn't sure if it fit with the rest of the video. But I 100% agree. I just have POTS and that alone impacts my mobility and energy. I'm happy Halsey did speak about these conditions because I know how isolating chronic illness can be. My heart goes out to you.
@@ainovuorenmaa9786 not OP but my wife does have EDS. “When you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras” is a phrase medical students are told throughout their training. Zebra is in reference to a rare disease or condition.
@@crumpettrashgoblinshame. Doctors of ALL ppl, should know that sometimes zebras just sound like horses. Hate how many suffer bc nobody believes them I dont have chronic illness, but I am young with a bone/back issues & lots of metal in me. So chronic pain. So i get lots of ppl acting like I am faking or eyeing me bc i am sitting down on the bus. As if young ppl cant have back problems?? Anyway, I can relate in a way to ppl thinking what you or a loved one have going on is just nothing. I feel & hope the best for anyone suffering ❤ Its 2023 why are ppl still being ignored & turned away??
Fellow zebra with all the same conditions except sjrogens, ive got epilepsy and addisons disease instead. It is bloody rough. Very gentle online hugs comin your way.
I have just had an incredibly stressful 12 hours so a deep-dive from Ashley Norton about a celebrity I'm barely familiar with is just what I need to calm down 🙏🏻
Amen to that!! This day has been HELLACIOUS!!! This is exactly the type of video I could use right now. I know nothing on the topic so my brain can just be relaxed & chill. May all of our days this week get better!! ❤️🫶🥰🫶❤️
When I went through my miscarriage it was one of the most humiliating, vulnerable, and painful experiences I’ve ever had. Mentally and physically I was null. I can’t imagine having to go to work, much less perform for a crowd. I can’t imagine even performing in early pregnancy. Especially if I knew I had infertility issues. That’s so devastating. And then being told that I lied about it. I don’t know what I would’ve done in that moment.
@@ghostwiththemostest what a disgusting thing to accuse someone of. A quick google search would tell you not all miscarriages are painful. Sometimes it feels like period cramps, sometimes nothing. Sometimes you just bleed a ton. At least get your facts straight before being so cruel.
My miscarriage had me realize how abortion is/ WAS murder. I had previously been coerst into an abortion. I turned this video off As soon as I heard that abortion was a right. Moronic . Read a book
The video of Halsey you showed talking to fans didn’t rub me the wrong way… maybe that’s just me but I would want to publicly ask people to stop being rude because I’m busy as well. I don’t think she was anything but cordial and she really seemed to feel bad for not being able to talk to them more.
Me neither, Halsey was very kind to them and seemed more pleading than demanding. It felt more like she wanted to talk to them but was exhausted from her busy schedule and was frustrated because she wasn't being heard.
My sis called me and sent me the video when this happened and the way she described it compared to what happened is much like yall feel. As a fan, chose to go out a support in public as they go to do things. That's the risk and choice
I feel like Halsey is the ultimate result of tumblr culture and we don't have anyone quite like her. She fully embraced the tumblr aesthetic and made it into a career. I fell in love with her very early on as an artist because I loved tumblr and I wanted to be one of those girls so bad, and she is one of the few alt girls that made it into the mainstream media (the only one back then probably). I kinda forgot about her for some years but then rediscovered my love for her when I listened to Manic for the first time, I just felt so connected to her, I felt like she understood me completely. Since then I developed a real respect for her as a person, as an artist, and as a professional.
17:35 it’s common for japan to get special editions of albums with extra content such as live versions and b-sides bc in japan the import market is much bigger than other regions which is bad for sales. the extra content encourages people to buy the domestic editions instead of imports. hope this was interesting and helpful!
@@twothousandandchewit was a decade ago tho? Like she clearly grew up. Don’t act like Taylor hasn’t said or done some cringe shit when she was younger herself lol
That Buzzfeed article is insane. Having long brown hair makes you straight, really? It sucks that her sexuality's being scrutinized to such an absurd degree but unfortunately I'm sure every bisexual can relate lol. It's like if you haven't had an equal number of partners of "both" genders (and it can't be 0!) you're not *really* bi. Also her "lashing out" moment is hard to watch but I really feel for her, as a bipolar person myself (tri-bi actually... sorry) things can get really overwhelming really easily and fans can be really fucking entitled sometimes
god that final clip is so good,, "what do you want to be feeling on your deathbed?" "memory foam" this is the only instance in which i would say "yaaas give us nothing" in like a genuine and positive way, bc fr that's such an intense question??? and she deadpanned the shit out of it and kept a straight face the whole time fhndjskh
Reminds me of when Stephen Colbert asked Jennifer Lawrence "What do you think happens after you die?" And she said "They give your hospital bed to someone else"
‘The Other’ is actually a neutral academic/literary term. It sounds bad without the context that it is used a often by marginalized academics and writers (del toro talks about otherness A Lot) as a way to describe the relationship we have with people who are doing the othering.
Thank you so much of this. I’ve been a fan of hers for years and years and the way people are so used to clowning her without even knowing what for is just a lot of misogyny imo. She’s a celebrity that walks the walk. She talks about things that matter and is a great activist. I’ll never forget her and youngblood on the front lines during the protests of 2020. They weren’t singing along to imagine like some others we know.
Like the opening said, some of us just find her personality insufferable. It's not innately misogynistic to dislike someone who happens to be a woman. I'm not obligated to like everyone of my gender. And hey - plenty of male celebrities I dislike too!
@@ruminationstation4200The original comment is clearly not about people who have valid reasons for not like Halsey. It’s about people who dislike her for no real reason outside of her being “cringe” and making fun of her because that’s what’s socially acceptable. Nowhere in this does it say that it’s inherently misogynistic to dislike halsey, nor that you have to support them because they’re a woman. If you really don’t like Halsey at all, why did you click on an hour long video about her life?
@@DoodleDoo2 she literally didn't. She said that she promised a kiss to a lot of minors. There's no information of whether or not she actually kissed someone.
Honestly omfg ab the miscarriage. Why did this not blow up when it happened? This is truly one of the most tragic and traumatizing thing I've ever read an artist having to go through.
She only talked about it once she had her baby about a year later, so if I had to guess, that’s why the story didn’t get much traction. She was more just revealing it in the wake of the news of her having a baby so it was kind of presented as side news. Talking about miscarriage is hard and I was so grateful that she talked about her experience at all, it really helped me a lot, since no one in my life had either had a miscarriage or the few that had didn’t register it as a trauma which made me feel weak and like I was handling it wrong
I've never tried Hasley's makeup brand, but I follow a lot of makeup creators and I see so many people who have About Face's eye paints in their staple makeup looks. Also, the visuals "If I can't love, I want how power" are really special, when I saw it for the first time I could not stop think about it.
does anyone else remember when people were trying to say halsey copied taylor’s song red with the song colors??? their proof is that they both use the colors red and blue and that halsey has a video of herself singing red… they must’ve pulled a muscle with all that reaching lol
i'm glad the maggie stiefvater drama got at least a footnote in this, because i've been in and adjacent to the fandom of her books for a while and her whole fight with halsey is simultaneously deeply hilarious to me and makes me want to die.
I haven't watched the video yet but did a quick search and oh my GOD?? THAT'S SO WILD?? I love that series but didn't know the author was like /that/, oh my good GOD.
@@crybabycasper yeah... mstief is certainly a character, and she definitely writes from her own little bubble in a way that either comes across as tone deaf or as if she actively avoids trying to look at things from a different perspective. she has way more of a filter now, at the very least.
I hope you see this comment - the reason that _Badlands_ (like a lot of other big-label album releases) got a “Japanese” edition is not bc of Halsey potentially fetishizing Japanese culture, but because of Japanese CD prices. Due to regulations that I don’t know the specifics of, it’s a lot cheaper for record stores in Japan to import US or EU versions of CDs than to sell Japanese versions. If they’re imported, they’re taxed differently, so a lot of record labels release Japanese editions with Japanese translations of liner notes and song titles and usually a few exclusive bonus tracks as an incentive to buy the actual Japanese version over the import.
i found halsey before she dropped badlands and i feel like i've grown up with her and i know all of her songs - but i sometimes could not stand watching her interviews. it was always so odd to me to love all of her music and then try to follow her as a person and not click. for a while i hated her and judged her but then i realized that if i were ever a teenage musician plucked from the internet, i would be like her. honest and cringy at times but sincere and open and a little messy and trying to have shit controlled but unable to and end up a lil traumatized from it all. with her last album and a little with manic i felt so proud of her, like she's finally just being herself. thank you for this video!!
I was a tumblr girlie (non-gendered) when Halsey first started getting popular, I played the absolute living heck out of that same series of concert videos lol. I really like Badlands-era Halsey tbh
@@morguegal for me it was Is There Somewhere haha. I literally just had to take a break from this video to watch the VEVO LIFT performance again. It still hits honestly
When you got to the part about them getting kicked out at 17 and they were homeless, my stress levels like tripled. The holiday inn party, the random guys being like hey come down to my basement to record...omg
That 34:55 remark of "lashing out" rubbed me the wrong way. I understand what you're referring to but there's so many issues with fans way overstepping their boundaries with celebrities and acting like they are owed affection from their idols. Halsey has been open about their struggles with bipolar disorder and we're just glossing over the fact that bipolar comes with a lot of emotional intensity and it's really difficult to keep in perspective how you come off, even though you can improve with medication? That doesn't negate how intense and painful interactions of rejection can feel and as someone who is neurodivergent themselves, I can tell you that they did the only thing we, neurodivergents, can do when we're about to express our symptoms - communicate. To have it described as lashing out feels a bit ableist because all they tried to do is explain their circumstances and be excused for the situation that is outside their control.
YES!!!! Thank you!!! It pissed me off so bad when people did nothing but ridicule her for it, and then these same people turn around on their social media pages acting like they're advocates for mental health. I also have bipolar disorder and my very first thought was "she might be manic or anxious due to stress." I have "lashed out" like that so many times, and seeing the reaction to her just only proved to me that so many people are not walking the walk when they say they are a mental health advocate. It just showed me that if I ever happen to have a vulnerable moment like that in public, I'd be ridiculed. It felt hella ableist to me then and it still very much does now. I would love to see all the people laughing to spend five minutes in Halsey's shoes with their own mental health struggles deal with being shat on constantly while in the public eye. I really wish people would practice what they preach when they say they have empathy.
Right?? Like I think they were super nice in how they phrased things too - they literally just said hey I love u guys but please don't be mean to me if I can't always make time for u cause my schedules full😭
Yeah I wouldn’t call that moment “lashing out” at all. I think of lashing out as aggressive or angry, which she doesn’t come across as. It’s more like she’s pleading for people to stop being mean to her online.
I freaking love Halsey. She's an artist (she paints, writes, makes poetry, songs), a business woman and she's a badass mother. She's amazing. I've been staning her since 2015 and Manic and If I Can't' Have Love, I Want Power are a masterpiece.
also i have the whole romeo and juliet prologue memorized because of hopeless fountain kingdom and it helped me very much in sophomore English class! thanks halsey
From one Ashley to another, only you could present this much-needed Halsey timeline to the masses! I used to work for a music tech startup that became a lyric publishing website (basically Genius) from 2011-2016, can confirm I saw her rise organically despite seeming like an industry plant! What this summary of her career reminded me was her & Taylor are so much alike despite being 5 yrs apart - the timing is so funny with Halsey hating on Harry and Taylor via her 1D blog (which I agree with ONLY for the sus age difference), then ultimately bagging Matty Healy despite it being v problematic agewise, and now look at Tay and Matty??? I would LOVE to learn that Harry and Halsey have hooked up for this particular reason, closing the gap 😂 I will always have a soft spot for Halsey for many of the reasons commented, one of our original cringe figureheads a la Debbie Ryan but I love them for it!!!! And of course Halsey bringing back cowboy realness for the masses, “You Should Be Sad” is one of my favorite pop bops of all time and that is no lie. p.s. I loved the bit about being a 1D fan and how they offer universal housing because you’re officially adopted 🤣
Love your deep dives so much and the new camera looks great! I thought the mention of the Japanese CD was interesting. I've looked into this before since so many albums have Japan only bonus tracks and it's because it's cheaper for people to import CD's from other countries so to get them to buy the Japanese version, labels and artists put extra bonus songs as an incentive. Not entirely dismissing the claims of fetishization, just giving some context!
Japan is the world's second biggest music market, and it has been for quite a long time. Japanese only albums with bonus tracks were really common when CDS were the most popular format. Also a lot of acts and artists end up with big fan bases in Japan, to the point that "big in Japan" is a phrase that's been in use for a long time. Edit - this includes acts who end up being more successful in Japan than in their own countries.
Actually just posted something similar. There are other examples to use, I assume, but the cd is definitely not it. That was and still is a very common thing. Heck, it wasn't that long ago another fanbase I'm in was trying to see if a Japanese release was going to have bonus tracks.
@@faeriegraver you just explained the title of one of the biggest musical exports from my country to me. That's huge (or big, haha), cause I'd always been wondering why Alphaville chose the name "Big in Japan", not say Big in Jamaica or something. Hopefully you know which song I'm talking about 😂 Also maybe makes Tokio Hotel a more calculated choice of name than I'd previously assumed. So thanks for the lesson in music industry jargon!
I had a miscarriage at 16. It was devastating. I felt like it was my fault, that I was good enough because my body couldn't carry to term. I can't imagine if the world blamed me and called me a killer on top of that. Too this day I still haven't tried to have a child because it broke my spirit so badly. I don't ever want to risk loss again.
I find deep dives like these so interesting because I was never on Tumblr, but based on my music taste in middle school, you would think I was. For context, some my favorite albums in middle school were "Blurryface" by Twenty One Pilots, "Crybaby" by Melanie Martinez, "Pure Heroine" by Lorde, "Death of a Bachelor" by P!ATD, "Blue Neighbourhood" by Troye Sivan, and, of course, "Badlands" by Halsey. I absolutely love learning about the discourse I missed surrounding the music I loved
when I wrote that blog about Maggie Steivfater and Halsey in 2015 little did I know that it would appear in a youtube deep dive i'd enjoy during dinner
I love Halsey she’s my all time favorite artist. As a late teen early adult, we are the same age Ashley and I, I’d play her music driving to Palm Springs, my job as a dog walker, seeing New York for the first time. So many of my best memories involve her art. My husband surprised me with iHeartRadio tickets last year because she was playing. It was such a fun night I was on the edge of my seat when she came out and it was her birthday. Thanks for the deep dive on her. I learned a lot! ❤❤
so excited to see you posted this! i became a fan of them in 2014 and have had a complicated relationship with her since. behind the cursive singing and the cringiness she is actually a really interesting person with an interesting story and i think not a lot people know that about them
I'm a 55 year old woman... I love Halsey! I didn't understand most of what you said, got bored and tuned out. But thanks for introducing Halsey to me 😊
i love halsey, and have since 2015. When I got into BTS, my love for her grew as she was one of the few celebrities that made them feel welcomed in America and stuck with them and became genuine friends. Her music is consistently great and i find her to be a very inspiring artist.
thank you soo much for this! its so easy to hate on people/judge them when they feel out of reach and its really important to humanize the celebrities behind the screens. so sad how everyone treated her during those times, its like the concept of misogyny just went out the window and it was simply labelled lighthearted humorous hate.....i mean come on lets b real
Her teen videos are hilarious and adorable , I don’t think it’s wrong to laugh. People being authentically themselves is so pure and I think that’s why people appreciate the cringey things she did so much.
If Halsey were male presenting nobody would describe what she said as “lashing out.” Lashing out is screaming, getting physical - she nicely asked fans to be kind to her?? Couldn’t be me!
Tbh, the quotes from Halsey you read about their time being unhoused 100% sound accurate to me. I've been there, and the way she's talking about it feels like how I and others I know talk about it. Besides, you're right --- the fact that people speculate about them "faking it" is absolutely disrespectful. Even if they were, why risk calling a survivor of that a liar???
Not to defend Maggie Stiefvater 'cause the messiness of that woman is immense, but 'the other' wasn't a problematic thing. It's a literary studies term to describe anyone/anything that exists outside the boundaries of a specific community and/or concept, usually community as it's usually used to refer to people, and faces ostracization as a result of this. So technically speaking, a person of colour can be 'the other', just like a woman can be 'the other' to a community full of men, even a random person with no discernible qualities can be one if there's want for it and enough ostracization for whatever reason. A bit iffy, but not her saying anything inherently bad.
if i can’t have love i want power is absolutely one of my favourite albums of all time - just an absolute masterpiece she did such an incredible job with it
I think Halsey had all the right in the world to scold her fans. Some ppl think they have a right to a celebrities time and they dont. U can love a celebrity but they dont owe u an autograph or a photo. Celebrities are not objects. I think some gossip and news outlets have made us believe we are owed an inside into a celebrities private affairs/life. Its gotten out of hand. They publish everything. Even when a celebrity gets a new haircut, like, what?!?
Thank you! I have never seen the video about her “telling people off” rude, it’s human to feel overwhelmed and stressed and I think she handled it well
I'm in the "tribi label" section rn and i appreciate this video sm 😭 I'm mixed black+white, bi, and mentally ill so the discourse around her aged me 3 billion years when i was an annoying tumblr teen!!!
No fr cuz I joke that I'm bibibi (sang as nsync's bye bye bye) cuz I'm bisexual bipolar and biracial too. I had no idea she was the same. Tri-bi is freaking genius and I'm totally using it
I'm not biracial, but I am bisexual and bipolar and I thought the "tri-bi" label was hilarious and I was irritated when ppl reacted so harshly to it. She has the right to speak her truth and life experience.
All I know is it's kind of ridiculous that people hold things against people for the rest of their lives. I don’t think that's fair. People are allowed to learn and grow as they get older. I did dumb shit in my teens too and even early 20s.
Literally! As if they themselves didn't do similar stuff but want to pretend they are above anyone and have a higher moral ground. It's always what pisses me off in internet discourse.
as someone who is old enough to have social media exist when I was in high school I really hate it when people like to point out something someone did in their teenage years as some kind of gotcha especially after how much society has changed recently.
That very last clip of Halsey being interviewed and the dude just looking very confused over her answer is priceless! Awesome video by the way, thanks.
Halsey was an absolute sweetheart to me when i Met them when i was 17 after a Badlands concert. Her calling me adorable is one of my life's greatest achievements
I saw Halsey live in new Braunfels Texas in the middle of the summer during the badlands tour with my fellow lesbian best friend and it was a revolutionary moment in my life
Honestly, Halsey is 100% correct about the trivialization and "fanification" of so much of politics. There have always been shallow partisans, but social media has turned that up to 11 in the worst way. Republicans were and are embarrassing in their hero-worship of Reagan, but their response to Trump has been totally unhinged. Democrats also "stan" certain politicians unfortunately, but it's not on the same level at all.
cds are much more popular in japan than they are in the west. many pop artists have special editions cds of their albums sold only in japan. i think the profit margins for cds are pretty high there as well, so there’s a lot of incentives.
bro this is kinda crazy i didnt realize that halsey is so based. idc if she has slightly weird takes shes so real a normal person and at least shes trying to speak on things when most people dont. good for her bro
most celebs are just people who happened to get recognized for their talents. once you take the rose colored glasses off and take them off a pedestal, nothing they say or do is that shocking.
tw for abuse // g-e*sy was physically abusive towards h during their relationship. a lot of their songs on manic are about her surviving that relationship and looking at it now from the other side. just wanted to note that because they have a lot of exes and drama surrounding their love life (especially that particular relationship) but he is an actual scumbag!
here to report that about face is amazing, they have the best liquid eyeshadow on the market and the brand is very popular amongst makeup artists!! one of the only celeb brands (besides fenty obviously) that has extended long beyond the fans and more importantly it’s a fun ass brand that has products you would be hard pressed to find anywhere else for the same price
i don’t know how, but you’ve done it again ashley, it being me watching a video on a topic i have no interest in but am so interested in the way you talk about and research your topics that i end up watching the whole thing and walk away with a newfound appreciation on a person or event.
I've always loved her songs ! After my miscarriage i listened to "more" and "bells in santa fe" on repeat it made feel less alone. I heard that she was "problematic" but never heard any specifics so i thought I'd learn today lol
Finally a celebrity I'm really familiar with. I wrote some of her lyrics on an exs wall the landlord must have been so confused. I've seen Halsey live two days before the March 2020 lockdown in my country and she was great cant fault her. Particularly due to living with frankly very severe disabilities, endo and bipolar etc. A great artist
It was 9 years ago, I don't give a toss about the property of a landlord neither now or then, I'm pretty sure my poor ex bf was made homeless by said landlord to get around rent control laws, and I think you need to take a chill pill if you think that is any way wild behaviour, halsey herself I'm sure would be proud of me 😂
@@Pushnotificationsalwaysoffbye Don't see why you felt it necessary to shame the OP, like seriously why? It wasn't *your* property, and I highly doubt the OP is your child, so why do you feel entitled to lecture? So freaking unnecessary and kinda gross. Mind your own business. 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
wasnt in a place where i could watch the section about miscarriage, i really appreciate that you made it so easy to skip ahead without missing anything
I'm so excited for this! Halsey is my idol but also one of the cringiest people ever. I think that's what I love about her. I sensed this coming after Debby Ryan.
The Japanese version is basically the same album sold in Japan. It’s actually pretty common and it’s actually becoming common for K-Pop to do the same (I pointed out K-Pop, because of its bigger appeal world wide compared to J-Pop) in the USA. These K-Pop albums aren’t being sold in English, just the album itself is sold in say Target or Walmart. If there is a demand for it, it’s likely possible it could be sold in a different country. Also, Japan (ironically to South Korea) is the 2nd biggest music market in the world actually, so it makes total sense why her label would market there.
your deep dives are literally my number one serotonin producing thing in the whole world. all of the chronological details just just scratch an itch in my brain SO perfectly; I will seriously be watching these until the end of time. i appreciate you SO much for the effort you put into these, it never goes unnoticed
on the topic of record labels and viral tiktoks: unfortunately this is absolutely a thing! it's been happening a lot since around 2020 where labels will hold artists' music hostage until they can hit a certain view/like/whatever count on "viral" tiktok videos. it happens to artists big and small. recently, artist Jeris Johnson posted a video on his channel talking about what a nightmare modern record labels are, and he talks about this point a lot. it's worth a watch, because record labels are being very bad to artists in recent years.
even though i stopped keeping up with her during the hfk era (because i wasn’t really a fan of the actual music at that point) i was obsessed with her from 14-17 and she will always hold a nostalgic place in my little tumblr teen heart 🫶🏼
Halsey is also going to be in the film MaXXXine (coming 2024?) with Mia Goth. I am so excited for this. I loved X and Pearl (the first 2 films) so much!
The merch issue with UMG is unacceptable (though I don’t blame Halsey at all for it). They should have never released the glitter vinyl for presale before figuring out the production logistics, then to change the design and structure of it after fans have already paid for it is despicable. The people who ordered faulty crewnecks should have been offered a refund or replacement within 30 days of receiving the item, not from the date of the email. As a small business owner, I would be ripped apart if I had those same issues in quality and I make everything by hand without the funds and resources UMG has. I love her makeup brand though and it gets very good reviews.
the badlands era on tumblr was insane. colors had everyone in a chokehold. _you were red and you liked me cause I was blue. but you touched me and suddenly I was a lilac sky, and you decided purple just wasn't for you_ like???? the girlies were THRIVING
Oh god I remember making aesthetic boards for all the Badlands songs😂
i still listen to badlands. it's SO good when i need a song that can fit my stupid angst characters. all of them.
it was an animatic of gravity falls pine twins of stan and stanly to colors that was my introduction to hasley. always feel so amazing listening to her badlands and pre badlands albums, her newer music is good too, but damn that album is so increible
I still have my bubblegum blue limited edition Badlands vinyl record from back when it was released in 2015. Just to make it a bit more painful for us all I’ll put a gentle reminder that it was released 8 years ago now and we’re all old :)
@Henny.777 When I read things like these and I see them often, I always feel like an actual old person is one day gonna roll up and punch a young person who is pretending to be old square in the face.
halsey singing in that mall was the closest we’ll ever get to world peace
And imagine that people walked past that and dont even remember it...
@@ainovuorenmaa9786😂😂
Yes.
Now with the context, I find it kinda cute 🥰 I'm an amateur signer, and I can really see she kinda knows she's a bit off because of the stress but powering through it, just like I am when I totally messed up at karaoke! She has bad posture, no back music, in the middle of a mall, all nervous to sing for Tumblr teens... it's sweet!
@@ragdollrose2687Hope you get to sign more whatever that is🤗
With a digital footprint like that there’s no way they’re an industry plant 💀
To be fair no one understood what a digital footprint *actually* was until a few years ago 😭 Jeffree Star still somehow managed to be signed to Akon (a black man) when he did music, even after all the stuff he’s been recorded saying within around the same time 🤣
@Henny.777 honestly I was constantly reminded of digital footprint when I was growing up, I guess the idea is more widespread now, but the concept has been around since at least the early 2000s
@@xXnymphXx Yeah but it wasn’t as prominent back then, I was obviously taught to be careful what you post online etc etc, but only in recent years have people ACTUALLY started digging into people’s old social media accounts and posts. I never said it *wasn’t* a thing, I’m simply saying it was a lot less big of a deal back then, and that can actually clearly be proven by the way celebrities used to post on their social platforms back in the day. Bella Hadid had an eating disorder themed tumblr for gods sake.
@@Henny.777 HE WAS SIGNED TO AKON?? How tf
@@Tw0Dots HAHAHA I know right it’s so goddamn random?? If you go and listen to his song ‘Prom night’ at the beginning of it you’ll hear metal bars clanging together and a voice saying ‘convict!’, that’s Akon’s producer tag 😭
That baby doll thing at the concert after her miscarriage is horrifying
People have lost all sense of shame and dignity
Imagine performing through that. Imagine seeing that, and not just breaking down on stage.
Welcome to the 'pro-life' community
@@lexiright5609 I didn't stand for what they did to her, but I don't like innocent babies being killed unless it's for health reasons. So what Ashley did after the miscarriage is completely understandable and shouldn't be hated on.
@@Peyton3176 can you just stop talking? Women are not incubators and calling a foetus a baby is inherently dishonest
the "accidentally calling for 9/11 2" tweet reminds me of when a lorde posted a pic of a bathtub with iii will always love youuu cause she likes having bathes with no prior knowledge of how whitney houston died. this is what my anxiety tells me will happen every time i open my mouth
Live laugh Lorde (bath lover)
I had absolutely no idea that was how whitney houston died either, omg that tweet mistake must have felt so bad!
Oh my god, that’s awful and so, so funny. We’re all just out here trying, huh?
YES exact same energy. So real, that's why I end up deleting harmless shit 10 seconds after posting half the time 😭
@@ImAtYourMumsHouse. I feel that! ❤
“several videos surfaced of halsey having not so nice interactions”
*cues to videos of her literally gentle parenting a crowd of gans*
That felt way more like fans having not so nice interactions with them honestly. like that's not "lashing out" that's a person on the verge of a breakdown
It’s crazy to me Halsey saying please don’t be mean to me, I have a busy day too is considered lashing out at her fans😭😂 if somebody slightly raises their voice at me, I’m like hey now, let’s not do that.💀💀💀
right lol. i felt like that was a super transparent moment. she is human and people frequently forget that with celebs
This RUclipsr describing that moment as "lashing out" and "not ok" left such a bad taste in my mouth. She did nothing wrong
"I will hold my son with one arm, and fight with all my might with the other" is actually metal as fuck
I was at a protest in Hollywood and almost got fully run over by a food truck . They stopped, and then Halsey and Machine Gun Kelly got out with armfuls of beef jerky to pass out to the crowd. LA is a fever dream.
I legit cant tell if this is a joke 😭 it sounds so surreal
Like couodnt tell if your were being deadass, or if this is one of those fake “Drew Gooden ran up to me & threw a slice of cheese in my face, while also denouncing France” things thats on YT or something lmao
@@Tw0Dots I'm being deadass, but it most certainly did not feel real
I went to an MGK concert in Detroit and all the people in line were saying he had been in an ice cream truck giving out free ice cream downtown 😂
@@Tw0Dotsbut why would anybody do that? just go on the internet and tell lies?:(
@@alicemuguet6947 its supposed to be like all jokes dont worry lol
It was like a copypasta or meme or whatever haha. The ppl would only say silly things, not bad stuff.
Also my bad if you were being sarcastic, Im bad with that type of stuff
Halsey album 'If I Can't Have Love, I Want Power' is criminally underrated imo. Still listening through it 2 years later, it inspired me to fight through my mental health struggles.
That album literally changed my brain chemistry man, it's so impactful
Nahhhh taht was two years ago already? 😅 I listen to that album regularly still
I still listen to it often.
It’s sooo good ♥️
Yep still listening daily!
Halsey is a victim of the “cringe culture” phenomenon, all they did was live their life and make their art, but was relentlessly bullied for it
*she/her
Yeah why do people keep saying "they" it's so confusing
So what behaviors like what she did in the beginning wasn’t cringe to you?😂
@@OGseoulite haven’t we all done cringe and embarrassing stuff as younger people and even as adults? You can’t recall anything you’d want to stay in the past?
@@leilaniz5909 not sure if you didn’t know but it’s because Halsey uses she/her along with they/them pronouns, so the comment above is just referring to Halsey with one of their preferred pronouns 😄
Referring to the Chainsmokers as "everyone's favorite Kohl's mannequins come to life" was nothing short of iconic.
These videos have really made me more conscious about the trend of being mean and judgy to young women on the internet, and takes me back to my very embarrassing and problematic early teen years
You’re telling me you didn’t know to be more considerate of others before someone on the internet told you too….? That’s kinda lame….
@@hotsexyangelit was very normalized and popular on the internet back then, even more than it is now- by society and the internet
Same!
@@hotsexyangel no not that, like obviously I realized that was very problematic behaviour from 11 year old me and have moved on, these videos have just made me realize that almost every young woman in the public eye faced harsh criticism from so many people their own age for simple things like dating someone. While that is something I've always known on some level, having that be consistent in every video has just made me conscious of how widespread it is
I’m SO grateful for being the age where the internet was still running on a 56k modem that was hooked to a landline and it took three hours to download one song from Napster. If my teenage years were during the age of smartphones and social media, I’d never have survived…
Halsey is the embodiment of the “can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are shooting stars” meme to me idk why just always got that vibe 😂😂
WAITTTTTT
You're onto something
It's cause of her hair colors lmaoooo
Yes. Shes delusional. Literally bipolar . A glorified mentally ill nepo baby.
How the fuck are you so right??? I'm speechless
Halsey was always my “problematic fav” despite not even being *that* problematic. I loved Badlands and she was the first concert I ever attended
After this vid and about face, same. Shes very insightful and grown a lot since her start and shes so strong and amazing omg.
@notville_dude nobody knows what you're saying. You look like a weeeeirdo
I had an impression of Halsey as a deeply flawed, traumatized woman who was damned if she did, damned if she didn’t
I recall my sister saying she was Tri-Bi
1) bisexual
2) biracial
3) and bipolar
Do with that what you will but it has always floated the back of my head for better or worse
@@pixiestxNyomoufhalsey said this herself lol and as a fully black woman that is bisexual and struggles with mental health issues i can definitely relate. the more intersections you fit into, the less respect people have for you. even being white passing she still faces a lot of hate, it’s upsetting honestly..
Always liked them because she was biracial and a Tumblr user which was relatable for me
about the japanese album release: it's by no means a halsey-specific thing, actually something that a lot (if not most or all?) western bands and artists signed to major labels do. to paraphrase the "japanese edition" wikipedia article: because it costs more to manufacture albums in japan, labels make these "special" albums with extra bonus tracks that aren't available in the standard edition releases to incentivise japanese people to buy albums that are made in-land instead of importing from elsewhere.
That makes much more sense than what I was imagining
The Japanese version of evermore has two extra versions of 'willow' on it!
@@ashleynortonJapan is also the world's second largest music market.
Japan makes western modern music translated into their language
it’s also very common in Kpop, too, since the music market is so large there and they’re more likely to accept the idols as opposed to overseas in European countries or North America.
I'm only 40 minutes into the video but I just wanna add that Halsey has recently been diagnosed with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, Sjögren's syndrome, mast cell activation syndrome, and POTS on top of already dealing with endometriosis. I'm 20 y/o and I have all of those things too and they have RUINED my life. The hallmark of EDS is unexplained, widespread agony every single second of every day for years until someone FINALLY believes you and runs tests and puts all the pieces together. I can't even describe what living with this shit is like. She must be so fucking strong to even be able to walk and move at all. It's really hard for us EDSers or "zebras" to cope with knowing there is no cure and we are always told by doctors that will will never be without pain every day and hopefully it can be turned down from a 9 or 10/10 to maaaaaybe a 5, whereas a normal person with normal cells is at a 3 or so on a bad day. The pain is unexplained and constant and we also get injured and fall and break bones and bleed and bruise really easily and it often never heals bc of our cellular makeup. So, I have some serious respect for Halsey and I hope I can be as strong as them someday soon.
Sending the best for you❤️ hope you dont mind me asking, where does the nickname zebra come from? :)
I actually had a section in this video but cut it out because I wasn't sure if it fit with the rest of the video. But I 100% agree. I just have POTS and that alone impacts my mobility and energy. I'm happy Halsey did speak about these conditions because I know how isolating chronic illness can be. My heart goes out to you.
@@ainovuorenmaa9786 not OP but my wife does have EDS. “When you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras” is a phrase medical students are told throughout their training. Zebra is in reference to a rare disease or condition.
@@crumpettrashgoblinshame.
Doctors of ALL ppl, should know that sometimes zebras just sound like horses. Hate how many suffer bc nobody believes them
I dont have chronic illness, but I am young with a bone/back issues & lots of metal in me. So chronic pain. So i get lots of ppl acting like I am faking or eyeing me bc i am sitting down on the bus. As if young ppl cant have back problems??
Anyway, I can relate in a way to ppl thinking what you or a loved one have going on is just nothing. I feel & hope the best for anyone suffering ❤
Its 2023 why are ppl still being ignored & turned away??
Fellow zebra with all the same conditions except sjrogens, ive got epilepsy and addisons disease instead. It is bloody rough. Very gentle online hugs comin your way.
I have just had an incredibly stressful 12 hours so a deep-dive from Ashley Norton about a celebrity I'm barely familiar with is just what I need to calm down 🙏🏻
Hope things get better! I too am here to calm down lol
FR ME TOO
My exact thoughts
Hey me too… hope you get to chill and get some mental rest 🫶🏻
Amen to that!! This day has been HELLACIOUS!!! This is exactly the type of video I could use right now. I know nothing on the topic so my brain can just be relaxed & chill. May all of our days this week get better!! ❤️🫶🥰🫶❤️
When I went through my miscarriage it was one of the most humiliating, vulnerable, and painful experiences I’ve ever had. Mentally and physically I was null. I can’t imagine having to go to work, much less perform for a crowd. I can’t imagine even performing in early pregnancy. Especially if I knew I had infertility issues. That’s so devastating. And then being told that I lied about it. I don’t know what I would’ve done in that moment.
@@ghostwiththemostest what a disgusting thing to accuse someone of. A quick google search would tell you not all miscarriages are painful. Sometimes it feels like period cramps, sometimes nothing. Sometimes you just bleed a ton. At least get your facts straight before being so cruel.
@@ghostwiththemostest that's genuinely such a fucked up thing to say. do you know her personally to even insinuate that
@@ghostwiththemostest lol are you her doctor? if so this is called a HIPAA violation.
My miscarriage had me realize how abortion is/ WAS murder. I had previously been coerst into an abortion. I turned this video off As soon as I heard that abortion was a right. Moronic . Read a book
I'm so sorry for your experience.
The video of Halsey you showed talking to fans didn’t rub me the wrong way… maybe that’s just me but I would want to publicly ask people to stop being rude because I’m busy as well. I don’t think she was anything but cordial and she really seemed to feel bad for not being able to talk to them more.
I’m not a pop star but everyone has their moments and this one was really not that bad according to the footage
Same! I honestly think they handled it pretty well.
Me neither, Halsey was very kind to them and seemed more pleading than demanding. It felt more like she wanted to talk to them but was exhausted from her busy schedule and was frustrated because she wasn't being heard.
My sis called me and sent me the video when this happened and the way she described it compared to what happened is much like yall feel.
As a fan, chose to go out a support in public as they go to do things. That's the risk and choice
why is one direction always at the scene of the crime?
I was so surprised to suddenly hear my name an hour into this video! Thank you for the shout out! Loved the rest of this video ♥
big fan here
@@ashleynorton Now way! Thank you so much!! I love your videos too :)
Omg Rachel!! I love ur videos (and ur style ^_−☆)
I feel like Halsey is the ultimate result of tumblr culture and we don't have anyone quite like her. She fully embraced the tumblr aesthetic and made it into a career. I fell in love with her very early on as an artist because I loved tumblr and I wanted to be one of those girls so bad, and she is one of the few alt girls that made it into the mainstream media (the only one back then probably). I kinda forgot about her for some years but then rediscovered my love for her when I listened to Manic for the first time, I just felt so connected to her, I felt like she understood me completely. Since then I developed a real respect for her as a person, as an artist, and as a professional.
17:35 it’s common for japan to get special editions of albums with extra content such as live versions and b-sides bc in japan the import market is much bigger than other regions which is bad for sales. the extra content encourages people to buy the domestic editions instead of imports. hope this was interesting and helpful!
I just made this same comment, great minds
I don't get it
that makes sense why ultraviolence by lana del rey has two extra songs in the japan version. thanks.
@NotVille_ tf does that have to do with anything ????
All I heard about Halsey was how "problematic" she was, but after watching this she comes across as a kind person. Thanks for clearing that up for me
propaganda #duh how do ppl fall for B.S. so much?
@@angelwishes3213 it's just what I heard.
a kind person doesn’t make delusional hate songs towards THE taylor swift. like taylor swift is modern mother Teresa
@@twothousandandchewit was a decade ago tho? Like she clearly grew up. Don’t act like Taylor hasn’t said or done some cringe shit when she was younger herself lol
@@twothousandandchew that was a long time ago, get over it 🥱
That Buzzfeed article is insane. Having long brown hair makes you straight, really? It sucks that her sexuality's being scrutinized to such an absurd degree but unfortunately I'm sure every bisexual can relate lol. It's like if you haven't had an equal number of partners of "both" genders (and it can't be 0!) you're not *really* bi. Also her "lashing out" moment is hard to watch but I really feel for her, as a bipolar person myself (tri-bi actually... sorry) things can get really overwhelming really easily and fans can be really fucking entitled sometimes
The fact that people hated the "tri-bi" comment was so weird. She was talking about herself so why was it so bad, and I mean, she wasn't _wrong_ .
god that final clip is so good,, "what do you want to be feeling on your deathbed?" "memory foam" this is the only instance in which i would say "yaaas give us nothing" in like a genuine and positive way, bc fr that's such an intense question??? and she deadpanned the shit out of it and kept a straight face the whole time fhndjskh
Reminds me of when Stephen Colbert asked Jennifer Lawrence "What do you think happens after you die?" And she said "They give your hospital bed to someone else"
‘The Other’ is actually a neutral academic/literary term. It sounds bad without the context that it is used a often by marginalized academics and writers (del toro talks about otherness A Lot) as a way to describe the relationship we have with people who are doing the othering.
Thank you so much of this. I’ve been a fan of hers for years and years and the way people are so used to clowning her without even knowing what for is just a lot of misogyny imo. She’s a celebrity that walks the walk. She talks about things that matter and is a great activist. I’ll never forget her and youngblood on the front lines during the protests of 2020. They weren’t singing along to imagine like some others we know.
Like the opening said, some of us just find her personality insufferable. It's not innately misogynistic to dislike someone who happens to be a woman. I'm not obligated to like everyone of my gender. And hey - plenty of male celebrities I dislike too!
@@ruminationstation4200The original comment is clearly not about people who have valid reasons for not like Halsey. It’s about people who dislike her for no real reason outside of her being “cringe” and making fun of her because that’s what’s socially acceptable. Nowhere in this does it say that it’s inherently misogynistic to dislike halsey, nor that you have to support them because they’re a woman. If you really don’t like Halsey at all, why did you click on an hour long video about her life?
@@suoutubez19she’s literally kissed minors but pop off and insist it’s misogyny
@@DoodleDoo2 she literally didn't. She said that she promised a kiss to a lot of minors. There's no information of whether or not she actually kissed someone.
Honestly omfg ab the miscarriage. Why did this not blow up when it happened? This is truly one of the most tragic and traumatizing thing I've ever read an artist having to go through.
Why would you want a story about someone’s miscarriage to blow up? She wishes that she didn’t open up about it and kept it private.
@@suoutubez19 ok im glad someone said It i thought the use of the word “blow up” was kinda ehhhhhhh. Dont think they meant any harm tho
She only talked about it once she had her baby about a year later, so if I had to guess, that’s why the story didn’t get much traction. She was more just revealing it in the wake of the news of her having a baby so it was kind of presented as side news. Talking about miscarriage is hard and I was so grateful that she talked about her experience at all, it really helped me a lot, since no one in my life had either had a miscarriage or the few that had didn’t register it as a trauma which made me feel weak and like I was handling it wrong
"this song was a hit with frat basements everywhere" ashley you are a goddess of words
I've never tried Hasley's makeup brand, but I follow a lot of makeup creators and I see so many people who have About Face's eye paints in their staple makeup looks. Also, the visuals "If I can't love, I want how power" are really special, when I saw it for the first time I could not stop think about it.
does anyone else remember when people were trying to say halsey copied taylor’s song red with the song colors??? their proof is that they both use the colors red and blue and that halsey has a video of herself singing red… they must’ve pulled a muscle with all that reaching lol
As someone who was obsessed with Halsey as a teenager, I am seated 😳
“People in political parties are stans” now why would they say something so controversial yet so brave omg
You covered the topics of endometriosis and miscarriage very well and with empathy. Thank you.
i'm glad the maggie stiefvater drama got at least a footnote in this, because i've been in and adjacent to the fandom of her books for a while and her whole fight with halsey is simultaneously deeply hilarious to me and makes me want to die.
I haven't watched the video yet but did a quick search and oh my GOD?? THAT'S SO WILD?? I love that series but didn't know the author was like /that/, oh my good GOD.
@@crybabycasper yeah... mstief is certainly a character, and she definitely writes from her own little bubble in a way that either comes across as tone deaf or as if she actively avoids trying to look at things from a different perspective. she has way more of a filter now, at the very least.
If you can believe it, that drama is how I learned about Halsey in the first place. What an iconic time to be alive.
Holy shit this comment really takes me back
"If I Can't Have Love, I Want Power" is one of the best albums that's come out during the past few years. Then again, I am a huge NIN fan.
it really is! her best album too imo. it’s so so perfect.
“if i can’t have love, i want power” was my gateway to NIN. i thought because i loved it, i was ready for “the downward spiral” and “the fragile”
I hope you see this comment - the reason that _Badlands_ (like a lot of other big-label album releases) got a “Japanese” edition is not bc of Halsey potentially fetishizing Japanese culture, but because of Japanese CD prices. Due to regulations that I don’t know the specifics of, it’s a lot cheaper for record stores in Japan to import US or EU versions of CDs than to sell Japanese versions. If they’re imported, they’re taxed differently, so a lot of record labels release Japanese editions with Japanese translations of liner notes and song titles and usually a few exclusive bonus tracks as an incentive to buy the actual Japanese version over the import.
i found halsey before she dropped badlands and i feel like i've grown up with her and i know all of her songs - but i sometimes could not stand watching her interviews. it was always so odd to me to love all of her music and then try to follow her as a person and not click. for a while i hated her and judged her but then i realized that if i were ever a teenage musician plucked from the internet, i would be like her. honest and cringy at times but sincere and open and a little messy and trying to have shit controlled but unable to and end up a lil traumatized from it all. with her last album and a little with manic i felt so proud of her, like she's finally just being herself. thank you for this video!!
I was a tumblr girlie (non-gendered) when Halsey first started getting popular, I played the absolute living heck out of that same series of concert videos lol. I really like Badlands-era Halsey tbh
ugh yes and the room 93 halsey. hurricanes had 12 year old me feeling some type of WAY
@@morguegal for me it was Is There Somewhere haha. I literally just had to take a break from this video to watch the VEVO LIFT performance again. It still hits honestly
When you got to the part about them getting kicked out at 17 and they were homeless, my stress levels like tripled. The holiday inn party, the random guys being like hey come down to my basement to record...omg
omg same. I didn't know about any of that so I just thought it was becoming really dark real fast
@@victoriaklarissa me neither and me too!!!
That 34:55 remark of "lashing out" rubbed me the wrong way. I understand what you're referring to but there's so many issues with fans way overstepping their boundaries with celebrities and acting like they are owed affection from their idols. Halsey has been open about their struggles with bipolar disorder and we're just glossing over the fact that bipolar comes with a lot of emotional intensity and it's really difficult to keep in perspective how you come off, even though you can improve with medication?
That doesn't negate how intense and painful interactions of rejection can feel and as someone who is neurodivergent themselves, I can tell you that they did the only thing we, neurodivergents, can do when we're about to express our symptoms - communicate. To have it described as lashing out feels a bit ableist because all they tried to do is explain their circumstances and be excused for the situation that is outside their control.
YES!!!! Thank you!!! It pissed me off so bad when people did nothing but ridicule her for it, and then these same people turn around on their social media pages acting like they're advocates for mental health. I also have bipolar disorder and my very first thought was "she might be manic or anxious due to stress." I have "lashed out" like that so many times, and seeing the reaction to her just only proved to me that so many people are not walking the walk when they say they are a mental health advocate. It just showed me that if I ever happen to have a vulnerable moment like that in public, I'd be ridiculed. It felt hella ableist to me then and it still very much does now. I would love to see all the people laughing to spend five minutes in Halsey's shoes with their own mental health struggles deal with being shat on constantly while in the public eye. I really wish people would practice what they preach when they say they have empathy.
Right?? Like I think they were super nice in how they phrased things too - they literally just said hey I love u guys but please don't be mean to me if I can't always make time for u cause my schedules full😭
I was waiting for this comment! ❤
Yeah I wouldn’t call that moment “lashing out” at all. I think of lashing out as aggressive or angry, which she doesn’t come across as. It’s more like she’s pleading for people to stop being mean to her online.
It's not the author of the video's problem that you were triggered.
*taps fingers together maniacally* mm yes perfect time to dive into this new masterpiece
I freaking love Halsey. She's an artist (she paints, writes, makes poetry, songs), a business woman and she's a badass mother. She's amazing. I've been staning her since 2015 and Manic and If I Can't' Have Love, I Want Power are a masterpiece.
Her make up line is amazing!!
also i have the whole romeo and juliet prologue memorized because of hopeless fountain kingdom and it helped me very much in sophomore English class! thanks halsey
I’m sorry I’m dying at the “Halsey calling for a second 9/11”
a deep dive on my favorite tumblr girl turned problematic fave is exactly what I needed today thank u ashley
From one Ashley to another, only you could present this much-needed Halsey timeline to the masses! I used to work for a music tech startup that became a lyric publishing website (basically Genius) from 2011-2016, can confirm I saw her rise organically despite seeming like an industry plant! What this summary of her career reminded me was her & Taylor are so much alike despite being 5 yrs apart - the timing is so funny with Halsey hating on Harry and Taylor via her 1D blog (which I agree with ONLY for the sus age difference), then ultimately bagging Matty Healy despite it being v problematic agewise, and now look at Tay and Matty??? I would LOVE to learn that Harry and Halsey have hooked up for this particular reason, closing the gap 😂 I will always have a soft spot for Halsey for many of the reasons commented, one of our original cringe figureheads a la Debbie Ryan but I love them for it!!!! And of course Halsey bringing back cowboy realness for the masses, “You Should Be Sad” is one of my favorite pop bops of all time and that is no lie. p.s. I loved the bit about being a 1D fan and how they offer universal housing because you’re officially adopted 🤣
So excited for this one, your videos are always such a treat!
AGREED! I couldn’t click on it any faster 😂
Love your deep dives so much and the new camera looks great! I thought the mention of the Japanese CD was interesting. I've looked into this before since so many albums have Japan only bonus tracks and it's because it's cheaper for people to import CD's from other countries so to get them to buy the Japanese version, labels and artists put extra bonus songs as an incentive. Not entirely dismissing the claims of fetishization, just giving some context!
Japan is the world's second biggest music market, and it has been for quite a long time. Japanese only albums with bonus tracks were really common when CDS were the most popular format.
Also a lot of acts and artists end up with big fan bases in Japan, to the point that "big in Japan" is a phrase that's been in use for a long time.
Edit - this includes acts who end up being more successful in Japan than in their own countries.
Actually just posted something similar. There are other examples to use, I assume, but the cd is definitely not it. That was and still is a very common thing. Heck, it wasn't that long ago another fanbase I'm in was trying to see if a Japanese release was going to have bonus tracks.
@@faeriegraver you just explained the title of one of the biggest musical exports from my country to me. That's huge (or big, haha), cause I'd always been wondering why Alphaville chose the name "Big in Japan", not say Big in Jamaica or something. Hopefully you know which song I'm talking about 😂
Also maybe makes Tokio Hotel a more calculated choice of name than I'd previously assumed.
So thanks for the lesson in music industry jargon!
I had a miscarriage at 16. It was devastating. I felt like it was my fault, that I was good enough because my body couldn't carry to term. I can't imagine if the world blamed me and called me a killer on top of that. Too this day I still haven't tried to have a child because it broke my spirit so badly. I don't ever want to risk loss again.
I find deep dives like these so interesting because I was never on Tumblr, but based on my music taste in middle school, you would think I was. For context, some my favorite albums in middle school were "Blurryface" by Twenty One Pilots, "Crybaby" by Melanie Martinez, "Pure Heroine" by Lorde, "Death of a Bachelor" by P!ATD, "Blue Neighbourhood" by Troye Sivan, and, of course, "Badlands" by Halsey. I absolutely love learning about the discourse I missed surrounding the music I loved
when I wrote that blog about Maggie Steivfater and Halsey in 2015 little did I know that it would appear in a youtube deep dive i'd enjoy during dinner
I love Halsey she’s my all time favorite artist. As a late teen early adult, we are the same age Ashley and I, I’d play her music driving to Palm Springs, my job as a dog walker, seeing New York for the first time. So many of my best memories involve her art. My husband surprised me with iHeartRadio tickets last year because she was playing. It was such a fun night I was on the edge of my seat when she came out and it was her birthday. Thanks for the deep dive on her. I learned a lot! ❤❤
so excited to see you posted this! i became a fan of them in 2014 and have had a complicated relationship with her since. behind the cursive singing and the cringiness she is actually a really interesting person with an interesting story and i think not a lot people know that about them
I'm a 55 year old woman... I love Halsey!
I didn't understand most of what you said, got bored and tuned out. But thanks for introducing Halsey to me 😊
i love halsey, and have since 2015. When I got into BTS, my love for her grew as she was one of the few celebrities that made them feel welcomed in America and stuck with them and became genuine friends. Her music is consistently great and i find her to be a very inspiring artist.
I love the working relationship/bond between Halsey & BTS 🥺
agreed. The fact they keep working together and perform together often makes my heart warm. They even met her baby :')@@S-CCCC
Yup it warms my heart to know they have each other's backs and r genuinely such good friends, especially Halsey and Yoongi 🫂
This was a fantastic video but I'm sorry you forgot about their relationship with Dom (YUNGBLUD) which was ICONIC and a huge influence on her music
You said how you try to keep parts about trauma brief and I appreciate how you handle these delicate sections.
thank you soo much for this! its so easy to hate on people/judge them when they feel out of reach and its really important to humanize the celebrities behind the screens. so sad how everyone treated her during those times, its like the concept of misogyny just went out the window and it was simply labelled lighthearted humorous hate.....i mean come on lets b real
their makeup brand is so nice. i love everything i’ve gotten from it and it’s so affordable
Her teen videos are hilarious and adorable , I don’t think it’s wrong to laugh. People being authentically themselves is so pure and I think that’s why people appreciate the cringey things she did so much.
I've been wanting a Halsey video from you for so long! The new camera looks really great as well.
Aah thank you!!
wait Badlands gave me an ego too 😭 eighth grade me in a doctor who shirt thinking listening to a song about f*cking on the bathroom sink was sooo cool
If Halsey were male presenting nobody would describe what she said as “lashing out.” Lashing out is screaming, getting physical - she nicely asked fans to be kind to her?? Couldn’t be me!
Tbh, the quotes from Halsey you read about their time being unhoused 100% sound accurate to me. I've been there, and the way she's talking about it feels like how I and others I know talk about it. Besides, you're right --- the fact that people speculate about them "faking it" is absolutely disrespectful. Even if they were, why risk calling a survivor of that a liar???
Not to defend Maggie Stiefvater 'cause the messiness of that woman is immense, but 'the other' wasn't a problematic thing. It's a literary studies term to describe anyone/anything that exists outside the boundaries of a specific community and/or concept, usually community as it's usually used to refer to people, and faces ostracization as a result of this. So technically speaking, a person of colour can be 'the other', just like a woman can be 'the other' to a community full of men, even a random person with no discernible qualities can be one if there's want for it and enough ostracization for whatever reason. A bit iffy, but not her saying anything inherently bad.
if i can’t have love i want power is absolutely one of my favourite albums of all time - just an absolute masterpiece she did such an incredible job with it
I think Halsey had all the right in the world to scold her fans. Some ppl think they have a right to a celebrities time and they dont. U can love a celebrity but they dont owe u an autograph or a photo. Celebrities are not objects. I think some gossip and news outlets have made us believe we are owed an inside into a celebrities private affairs/life. Its gotten out of hand. They publish everything. Even when a celebrity gets a new haircut, like, what?!?
Thank you! I have never seen the video about her “telling people off” rude, it’s human to feel overwhelmed and stressed and I think she handled it well
I'm in the "tribi label" section rn and i appreciate this video sm 😭 I'm mixed black+white, bi, and mentally ill so the discourse around her aged me 3 billion years when i was an annoying tumblr teen!!!
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No fr cuz I joke that I'm bibibi (sang as nsync's bye bye bye) cuz I'm bisexual bipolar and biracial too. I had no idea she was the same. Tri-bi is freaking genius and I'm totally using it
I'm not biracial, but I am bisexual and bipolar and I thought the "tri-bi" label was hilarious and I was irritated when ppl reacted so harshly to it. She has the right to speak her truth and life experience.
@@annjepsen1621 point being that she didn't say it lol
All I know is it's kind of ridiculous that people hold things against people for the rest of their lives. I don’t think that's fair. People are allowed to learn and grow as they get older. I did dumb shit in my teens too and even early 20s.
Literally! As if they themselves didn't do similar stuff but want to pretend they are above anyone and have a higher moral ground. It's always what pisses me off in internet discourse.
@@taetaerinn_ you don't know what people have done. You only know what you've done. And that's what you need to be worried about
Hell, the wisest elderly people I know still do dumb shit sometimes. To err is human ♡
as someone who is old enough to have social media exist when I was in high school I really hate it when people like to point out something someone did in their teenage years as some kind of gotcha especially after how much society has changed recently.
I guess she can grow from kissing minors?
That very last clip of Halsey being interviewed and the dude just looking very confused over her answer is priceless! Awesome video by the way, thanks.
Halsey was an absolute sweetheart to me when i Met them when i was 17 after a Badlands concert. Her calling me adorable is one of my life's greatest achievements
ashley I hope you get well soon.. chronically slaying must be so tiring :(
I saw Halsey live in new Braunfels Texas in the middle of the summer during the badlands tour with my fellow lesbian best friend and it was a revolutionary moment in my life
Honestly, Halsey is 100% correct about the trivialization and "fanification" of so much of politics. There have always been shallow partisans, but social media has turned that up to 11 in the worst way. Republicans were and are embarrassing in their hero-worship of Reagan, but their response to Trump has been totally unhinged. Democrats also "stan" certain politicians unfortunately, but it's not on the same level at all.
It has always been _a guy you can drink a coffee with_ when it comes to republicans
@@AugustRx More like a guy you can tell a racist joke to and he'll laugh along.
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it's always i''m joking of course. unless you agree with me. Then I'm 100% being serious.
Not on the same level? You must be young because the Dems treated (and still do in a way) Obama like he was the Messiah.
cds are much more popular in japan than they are in the west. many pop artists have special editions cds of their albums sold only in japan. i think the profit margins for cds are pretty high there as well, so there’s a lot of incentives.
bro this is kinda crazy i didnt realize that halsey is so based. idc if she has slightly weird takes shes so real a normal person and at least shes trying to speak on things when most people dont. good for her bro
most celebs are just people who happened to get recognized for their talents. once you take the rose colored glasses off and take them off a pedestal, nothing they say or do is that shocking.
tw for abuse //
g-e*sy was physically abusive towards h during their relationship. a lot of their songs on manic are about her surviving that relationship and looking at it now from the other side. just wanted to note that because they have a lot of exes and drama surrounding their love life (especially that particular relationship) but he is an actual scumbag!
here to report that about face is amazing, they have the best liquid eyeshadow on the market and the brand is very popular amongst makeup artists!! one of the only celeb brands (besides fenty obviously) that has extended long beyond the fans and more importantly it’s a fun ass brand that has products you would be hard pressed to find anywhere else for the same price
i don’t know how, but you’ve done it again ashley, it being me watching a video on a topic i have no interest in but am so interested in the way you talk about and research your topics that i end up watching the whole thing and walk away with a newfound appreciation on a person or event.
She was cringe at her beginnigs, but who wasn't when their were teenagers? I really like her and enjoy her music
I've always loved her songs ! After my miscarriage i listened to "more" and "bells in santa fe" on repeat it made feel less alone. I heard that she was "problematic" but never heard any specifics so i thought I'd learn today lol
Finally a celebrity I'm really familiar with. I wrote some of her lyrics on an exs wall the landlord must have been so confused. I've seen Halsey live two days before the March 2020 lockdown in my country and she was great cant fault her. Particularly due to living with frankly very severe disabilities, endo and bipolar etc. A great artist
😳 please don’t flex about vandalizing property that doesn’t belong to you. Lol
It was 9 years ago, I don't give a toss about the property of a landlord neither now or then, I'm pretty sure my poor ex bf was made homeless by said landlord to get around rent control laws, and I think you need to take a chill pill if you think that is any way wild behaviour, halsey herself I'm sure would be proud of me 😂
@@Pushnotificationsalwaysoffbye Don't see why you felt it necessary to shame the OP, like seriously why? It wasn't *your* property, and I highly doubt the OP is your child, so why do you feel entitled to lecture? So freaking unnecessary and kinda gross. Mind your own business. 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@Pushnotificationsalwaysoffbye landlord spotted
wasnt in a place where i could watch the section about miscarriage, i really appreciate that you made it so easy to skip ahead without missing anything
I’m sorry but her “pitchfork basement collapse” tweet was funny 💀 who tf would think that music reviewers were located in the trade center, omg
I'm so excited for this! Halsey is my idol but also one of the cringiest people ever. I think that's what I love about her. I sensed this coming after Debby Ryan.
new ashley norton video >>>>> studying for my midterm exams
The Japanese version is basically the same album sold in Japan. It’s actually pretty common and it’s actually becoming common for K-Pop to do the same (I pointed out K-Pop, because of its bigger appeal world wide compared to J-Pop) in the USA. These K-Pop albums aren’t being sold in English, just the album itself is sold in say Target or Walmart. If there is a demand for it, it’s likely possible it could be sold in a different country. Also, Japan (ironically to South Korea) is the 2nd biggest music market in the world actually, so it makes total sense why her label would market there.
That has been done for YEARS in kpop tho. it isn't something recent at all
your deep dives are literally my number one serotonin producing thing in the whole world. all of the chronological details just just scratch an itch in my brain SO perfectly; I will seriously be watching these until the end of time. i appreciate you SO much for the effort you put into these, it never goes unnoticed
I just made some tea, was deciding whether to catch up on assignments or take the night off, great timing
on the topic of record labels and viral tiktoks: unfortunately this is absolutely a thing! it's been happening a lot since around 2020 where labels will hold artists' music hostage until they can hit a certain view/like/whatever count on "viral" tiktok videos. it happens to artists big and small. recently, artist Jeris Johnson posted a video on his channel talking about what a nightmare modern record labels are, and he talks about this point a lot. it's worth a watch, because record labels are being very bad to artists in recent years.
the video quality is CRISSSPPP!!!
So excited for this video I love Halsey a stupid amount… not to flex but 0.005% of Spotify listeners LMAO
even though i stopped keeping up with her during the hfk era (because i wasn’t really a fan of the actual music at that point) i was obsessed with her from 14-17 and she will always hold a nostalgic place in my little tumblr teen heart 🫶🏼
It’s my books release week and I have that viral issue (lol) and your content is quite literally keeping me sane, thank you for a new deep dive
Halsey is also going to be in the film MaXXXine (coming 2024?) with Mia Goth. I am so excited for this. I loved X and Pearl (the first 2 films) so much!
And Halsey also acted in another film called Americana
The merch issue with UMG is unacceptable (though I don’t blame Halsey at all for it). They should have never released the glitter vinyl for presale before figuring out the production logistics, then to change the design and structure of it after fans have already paid for it is despicable. The people who ordered faulty crewnecks should have been offered a refund or replacement within 30 days of receiving the item, not from the date of the email. As a small business owner, I would be ripped apart if I had those same issues in quality and I make everything by hand without the funds and resources UMG has. I love her makeup brand though and it gets very good reviews.