@@DingisChilling to be very precise neither of them is good chess is a game created by Indians with millions of possibilities and not even engines have mastered chess so in that reference “ he’s just Magnus “ kudos to India for creating this game probably the one who created can be used as “he’s not wrong about chess”
While arbiters undoubtedly do a lot of good work before, during and after tournaments, this is what Fabi was talking about with his 95% of arbiters are completely useless quote.
Arbiters at CCT are dumb. Their DGT boards also get stuck every now and then. What's the point of playing fast chess OTB if you can't even broadcast the game live. They should atleast have a good camera angle for the commentary team to follow the game live. They take eternity to figure out these things during the broadcast. These people should really learn a thing or two from the old Chess24 team or the St. Louis broadcasters.
i have noticed that the DGT boards are just awful at Chess.com events. you can get away with it in Classical matches but not in Rapid or Blitz. FIDE actually signed an exclusivity deal with DGT for the next 4 years, and by the looks of things the company has no intention of fixing the obvious technical faults in their boards. DGT (the company) have also patented the innerworkings of the board, making it very difficult for other companies to create their own DGT board to compete with them. so not just a Chess.com issue, but other broadcasts like St. Louis are much more efficient at troubleshooting problems it seems.
100%, in a more complex position i would be more understanding of their blind trust in the computer. but with the simplicity of the position it just doesn't hurt to double check for yourself even if it takes an extra minute.
It's like you said, Jack. It's on the arbiters, who did not understand nor test whatever software they were using. They did MC very wrongly, and their incompetence is worrying.
How do we know the arbiters relied on the computer to tell them there was no threefold repetition? Isn't it possible they came to that conclusion on their own?
i saw somewhere that the game was broadcasted on Norweigan television & they confirmed it was an error in the DGT software. not 100% though, could be possible that it was entirely human error but i would hope that level of incompetence isn't possible at this level of arbitration.
Eine Zugwiederholung ist keine Stellungswiederholung. Magnus reklamiert zu den Stellungen nach dem Zug 50, 54 und 56! Der Unterschied zwischen Zug- und Stellungswiederholung zeigt sich in den Zugnummern. Zwischen den Stellungen nach den Zügen 50 und 54 müssen wohl weitere Züge geschehen sein, die aber trotzdem zur Stellungswiederholung führten.
my best guess is that Magnus playing a move was needed for the DGT to properly update. not 100% sure though as i'm just basing that off my own experiences with DGT boards.
No, that’s incorrect. And that’s not what he said in the video. The threefold repetition occurred with MVL’s last move. The arbiter had to move Magnus’ knight to update the computer software; Magnus didn’t need to move his knight for the threefold rep.
I think this is on the arbiters. I think the sensors have trouble when quick moves are being made OTB or have a better local dedicated computer. There’s millions and millions of dollars flowing in. I don’t understand how issues continue every event.
computers are fine but they should've had some way to go back and rewatch what happened, to verify. If David Howell and Magnus are agreeing it was a 3 fold repetition then they need to have some way to double-check
i actually quite like them specifically for Rapid tournaments, i would much rather have lesser knowledgeable commentators in James Canty & Tania Sachdev because they make up for it in personality. commentators like Judit Polgar and Jon Ludvig Hammer are just too slow and particular to commentate on Rapid games in my opinion - they're much better suited to Classical commentary.
@@jacksarkisianI think many people’s problem with Tania is that for some reason her audio isn’t balanced the same and it’s louder and is a bit grating on the ears
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imagine telling magnus carlsen hes wrong about chess 💀💀
arbiter thought she was Magnus Carlsen 💀💀
@@jacksarkisian ive heard the arbiter last name is nieman 💀💀
Bruv he’s magnus just magnus not fischer
@@HemanthSai-tf5smhow they both are different in terms of chess ?
@@DingisChilling to be very precise neither of them is good chess is a game created by Indians with millions of possibilities and not even engines have mastered chess so in that reference “ he’s just Magnus “ kudos to India for creating this game probably the one who created can be used as “he’s not wrong about chess”
While arbiters undoubtedly do a lot of good work before, during and after tournaments, this is what Fabi was talking about with his 95% of arbiters are completely useless quote.
Arbiters at CCT are dumb. Their DGT boards also get stuck every now and then. What's the point of playing fast chess OTB if you can't even broadcast the game live. They should atleast have a good camera angle for the commentary team to follow the game live. They take eternity to figure out these things during the broadcast. These people should really learn a thing or two from the old Chess24 team or the St. Louis broadcasters.
i have noticed that the DGT boards are just awful at Chess.com events. you can get away with it in Classical matches but not in Rapid or Blitz.
FIDE actually signed an exclusivity deal with DGT for the next 4 years, and by the looks of things the company has no intention of fixing the obvious technical faults in their boards. DGT (the company) have also patented the innerworkings of the board, making it very difficult for other companies to create their own DGT board to compete with them.
so not just a Chess.com issue, but other broadcasts like St. Louis are much more efficient at troubleshooting problems it seems.
I support this concern, could have been a very different story if somehow that affected the expected result... Arbitars need to do a better job
100%, in a more complex position i would be more understanding of their blind trust in the computer. but with the simplicity of the position it just doesn't hurt to double check for yourself even if it takes an extra minute.
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It's like you said, Jack. It's on the arbiters, who did not understand nor test whatever software they were using. They did MC very wrongly, and their incompetence is worrying.
How do we know the arbiters relied on the computer to tell them there was no threefold repetition? Isn't it possible they came to that conclusion on their own?
I was also looking for this comment. It's seems more possible that the arbiters came to their conclusion on their own.
i saw somewhere that the game was broadcasted on Norweigan television & they confirmed it was an error in the DGT software. not 100% though, could be possible that it was entirely human error but i would hope that level of incompetence isn't possible at this level of arbitration.
@@jacksarkisian You don't contradict Magnus if a computer doesn't support you (and even then it's pretty stupid)
@@aquirick and David Howell. They should have reviewed the footage at least
Eine Zugwiederholung ist keine Stellungswiederholung. Magnus reklamiert zu den Stellungen nach dem Zug 50, 54 und 56! Der Unterschied zwischen Zug- und Stellungswiederholung zeigt sich in den Zugnummern. Zwischen den Stellungen nach den Zügen 50 und 54 müssen wohl weitere Züge geschehen sein, die aber trotzdem zur Stellungswiederholung führten.
what is your point
@ Read and you will see. It‘s the difference between repetition of moves vs positions …
@@wolfgangrausch1609 a game is drawn by a threefold repetition of positions. what is your point?
Zug Wiederholung gibts garnicht nur die Stellung ist relevant und egal ob dazwischen Züge waren.
@ The man in the video talked always about repetition of moves. The rules say clearly, it‘s the repetition of positions …
Why did she move the knight? Almost seems like sabotage.
my best guess is that Magnus playing a move was needed for the DGT to properly update. not 100% sure though as i'm just basing that off my own experiences with DGT boards.
So Magnus would’ve had to move his Knight into the same position to have made the game into a threefold? Interesting.
No, that’s incorrect. And that’s not what he said in the video. The threefold repetition occurred with MVL’s last move. The arbiter had to move Magnus’ knight to update the computer software; Magnus didn’t need to move his knight for the threefold rep.
I think this is on the arbiters. I think the sensors have trouble when quick moves are being made OTB or have a better local dedicated computer. There’s millions and millions of dollars flowing in. I don’t understand how issues continue every event.
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The position was dead drawn, any alternative move by maxime would have been an immediate losing move.
computers are fine but they should've had some way to go back and rewatch what happened, to verify. If David Howell and Magnus are agreeing it was a 3 fold repetition then they need to have some way to double-check
¿Doblador automatico?
They just want to see Magnus plays 😂
on serious note though that is concerning
Where’s Hikaru and Niemann? 😂
Didn’t qualify ig
"Controversy"
I knew it was coming!
Good video
insane..clearly shows the IQ level and professionalism of the arbiter.
Remove tania! 😅
why..jealous? lmao
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@@jacksarkisian wow i've never seen this before XD
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Tania and all the rest are such a circus.
i actually quite like them specifically for Rapid tournaments, i would much rather have lesser knowledgeable commentators in James Canty & Tania Sachdev because they make up for it in personality.
commentators like Judit Polgar and Jon Ludvig Hammer are just too slow and particular to commentate on Rapid games in my opinion - they're much better suited to Classical commentary.
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@@jacksarkisian Really well put!
@@jacksarkisian I want Leko, I can literally imagine his high-pitched voice when commentating in an exciting time scramble and I love it.
@@jacksarkisianI think many people’s problem with Tania is that for some reason her audio isn’t balanced the same and it’s louder and is a bit grating on the ears
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@@jacksarkisian lol