Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores All Endings. Captured on PlayStation 5 @ 4K 60fps "Performance Mode" Drop the video a 👍 if you enjoyed it 🙂 0:00 "I'm not ready for this" 5:31 Epilogue 8:04 "This is too much for me" 10:24 "Yes, I do"
I like the not ready for this ending which is the most in-line with her character. It really explains why Aloy all throughout both games kept on denying the advances from various characters of both genders. It highlights how she grew up alone with only Rost and is just starting to adapt to community...really2x good.
Maybe it makes more sense but no I can't do that. I played it multiple times and I am not able to choose anything else than "I do". She is ready for this and she deserves something good 😢
I like to think this is more like solidifying her character arc in Forbidden West. In the beginning of the game, they mention she snuck off by herself after the events of the previous games, not letting anyone else join her. As the game progresses you’ll notice she starts to open up and see that she’s been letting people join her in her quest to make Gaia whole/defeat the Zeniths. Burning Shores is the part where she finally allows herself to feel something towards someone by(after turning down Avad) and is shown throughout the whole DLC.
I had hoped for a lost legacy trip with the these two without any romance. It really feels very forced and rushed. Of course Aloy went through a massive character development- which I reaaaallly love. But she has always made it clear how important it is to her to complete the mission first and defeat NEMESIS before she can deal with it. So I find the storytelling unfortunate and contradictory. I would have very much wished that they slowly build up a friendship with Seyka during Burning Shores, and slowly integrate the theme of "love" and new feelings towards others in HORIZON 3, each of us has their own favorite NPC, that we want to see get romantically involved with Aloy. So I'm hoping Guerrilla will give us the power to decide who Aloy will bond with...we'll see.. this is just MY PERSONAL opinion ✨ Have a nice day everyone🧚🏻♂️
I want our leading lady to be happy as much as the next fan because she has damn well earned it tenfold, but they should’ve held off until after her interrelational growth arc comes a little more full circle. It felt like no matter what we picked it was about affirming Seyka’s feelings or trying to make her feel better more than Aloy’s. If she’s going to be with someone I’d rather it be a person who isn’t expecting anything from her like the rest of the world is right now.
Personally, I think that if Seyka was introduced in the first game, then their relationship would have been developed more. Aloy's character is complex from the start of her journey, figuring out who she is, learning about the Old World, how she's a clone, fighting machines, tribes, and zeniths, and on top of saving the world only to learn that Nemesis is coming, it is too much for her.
@@kevinbriones1431 yeah I’m not keen on when writers use romance as sort of a “booster shot” to speed up character development. Seyka was great in helping Aloy consider the importance of fighting for community and belonging - a great callback to the final lesson Rost wanted her to embrace. As you said her story already has some pretty complex factors and she has yet to reconcile her bitterness toward the Nora and fully grieving the loss of Varl and Rost. Which to me would’ve been the more ideal next step in her growth. I’m sure we’ll get something like that come next installment, but it was still good to see her finally acknowledge something for herself
RIP. I'm sad he didn't get to see (or maybe he did?) The final product of his work with Horizon. Amazing human being. Edit: I also wonder if they'll scrap syelns in the next game or get him a new voice actor.
Or we could have Sylens character commit a heroic sacrifice at the beginning of the next game, remember Hephaestus is still in play and dislikes humanity for destroying his children, then there’s Nemesis, though it isn’t here yet, we’ve seen it affect things from a distance once, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that it could do so again.
The genius of the ending is that all 3 are perfectly feasible and understandable responses. I was quick to make decisions on what to do throughout the entire DLC, but that one choice took me much longer to make. I went for the 'letting Seyka in' option in the end, because love.
I was kinda lost when i selected that too. I was thinking she opened up just a little to errend first so it was easy to make him her possible love interest but i remembered elizabet was in loce with tilda so it all made sense after😂
@@Moetheboi2024 so options are "yes" and "yes but not right now", there's literally no way they'll opt out of the homosexual route and this is not even a first or second time for Sony.
@@novurdimI mean sony allowed a trans kid and a couple of lgbt character in the last of us. I don’t think they care whatsoever about the religious wet wipes
So aloy has always been focused on whatever mission she's doing for the past two games and it feels weird to have her hook up with someone she just met in this dlc. Definitely wouldve prefered errend
@@Devogor omg your so right and i hate that they put this everywhere like wtf stupid ending... For 2 games they build this with Avad and Errend and then this... Like wtf... Why they have to ruin this to... Leave the stupid agenda out of gaming!!!
I’m just glad they don’t force you to accept it. Guerrilla seems to want players to choose their own path for Aloy, let’s hope that we can get different options for her love interest
Unless they do like they did with Nil. You could choose to kill him in zero dawn, but Guerilla had him alive anyway in forbidden west. Probably will do the same here too
It fits with the larger storyline that Aloy is starting to realize that honoring her genetic mother's legacy doesn't necessarily mean following the lonely path Elisabet chose for herself.
@@ammoniumammonide yeah the HFW came out in 2022 So it still the woke liberal path... They put tilda and they didnt have to make her date elisabth... But you know... Woke... Its just doesnt add up that in a society where people are being sacrificed to the gods, there will be the gay community... sounds a bit crazy and as if it was forced on the player
@@איתישפירא-ג5ס You do realize gay people exist everywhere no matter where you live, what culture you’re from, the life society imposed on you? There is no “gay community”, it’s gay people existing. And it’s not woke, it’s real life. Sure the game gets more attention because of this decision which was likely intentional, but who cares? It’s good representation. They didn’t force you to do anything.
These facial animations are incredible. It brings Aloy to life in a way where I just love watching the little movements the most. I just really love her character 💜 I’m happy we get more development for her, no matter what the choice is.
Something I can see happening in the upcoming Horizon 3 is Aloy struggling to figure out if she can balance between saving the world from Nemesis and being with Seyka. Considering Aloy can have a chat with Talanah in a Side Mission about love, I think Talanah will give Aloy some encouragement and tell her that while she has a lot going on, there’s no reason to deny her some happiness?
I think they gave a proper romance option here as to tease that it will be a thing in the 3rd third game. I don't want a character that you meet in the expansion to be romantically involved when you have characters from the previous 2 games. I want to properly build a romance in the third game or have a choice as to either like a man, woman or be single.
@@ZeroUs30 I agree 100% as first and second game didn't have any and I was absolutely fine but if there is going to be romance option then it should be open not forced.
Yeah, agree. Frankly, I was pleasantly surprised that Guerrilla made Aloy stay single for their games. (Though, in FW, we understand that she thought she *had* to be single because that's also what Elisabet did, thinking she had to be like her mother, but I still like that Aloy was one of the first female characters that didn't have a romance plot shoved into her tale). But, if they give us the option for a romance in the third game, I'd like to choose who I want to romance rather than be locked by storytelling. Or just opt to stay single and free! I hope they don't force one single option on us.
Something I like about this choice tree is that every option succeeds at demonstrating Aloy's growth over the course of the game. At the start when Avad basically does what Seyka is doing here, Aloy's fist option practically sees her berate him for thinking about this stuff while so much is at stake. And now with an even bigger threat looming, when faced with the same situation she handles it so much better, expressing in the most considerate way possible the same sentiment, but from the perspective of someone who now WANTS to connect with people but because the world's literally on a ticking timer to total extinction that she needs to be careful with how far she takes it. Even the romance option is like just taking a moment to experience that new thing for a bit while still doing the same thing of putting that on hold because priorities. Also, it's honestly baffling to me how people get mad at the OPTION of doing this. Like Ricky Gervais said, it's like seeing an advert for guitar lessons, walking into the building and screaming at the teacher "I DON'T FCKING WANT GUITAR LESSONS!!"
Idk why but the ‘This is too much for me’ felt a little bit more amicable than ‘I’m not ready for this’. The latter one just hurts your heart for Seyka and also Aloy.
So let me get this straight, they put in romance options (which pretty much is something that everyone's wanted since the first game) and the first character that option is with, is a character that you're only introduced to in this expansion?? OH COME ON!! hopefully they explore romance options fully in the next game (if there is one) My Boy Erand wants some love
Honestly, it didn't really make sense, as Aloy acted more like an asexual, I mean, there weren't any moments that I could remember where she flirted with any character, which made her stand out alot more ad it's very rare for there to be asexual representation especially for female characters in video games. Looking here, I wish it was Talanah instead because she's been with Aloy way longer than this character who has only appeared in an expansion.
Ezio didn't get paired up for good until literally the last game in his trilogy, so meh, whatever; ditto Clem in TWD. IMO Erend always felt like the loud jock friend rather than an actual love interest. The closest Aloy ever had to "feelings" was Varl, and that's definitely off the table.
@@HowlingWolf518 True that Ezio only settled and had a family in the last game, but he had always showed romantic interests to other female characters from the very first game, literally at the beginning of the first game too before he was on the run. It’s different in Horizon because it always seemed like Aloy never showed any romantic interest, and every scene where someone tries to flirt with her it’s hella awkward so I personally assumed she’s asexual or aromantic.
Anyone with a functioning brain knew Guerrilla Games was headed in this direction. If you’ve been paying attention to their studio over the last few years, you know they went progressive. It’s a new world y’all, and they are gonna push this stuff on us whether we like it or not. A shame that Sony went woke.
I think people have the right to complain. They literally said Aloy was too busy to form a relationship, etc when she had plenty of options to do so in the past. And yet in this random dlc, that's where they did it and someone that she JUST met? I'd be piss too if I cared that much about romance. And it's not even about her being a lesbian, as she could of went with a girl before.
Lol that what I was saying like shorty I just meet you and we hitting first base I don’t care if we almost died saving the world it still awkward as hell least give till next game for that love to bloom
i think you misunderstood tbh. the scene didnt imply them to be "dating". they both acknowledge their feelings for eachother, but they both know that they have places to be, and they left it at that.
@@luka7263 oh no I get it,it’s not the norm but feelings like that do happen. Just realistic not that damn fast, why I joked said like that I would have been happy with the banter flirting they was doing and hinting at a relationship next game. Like if your going to pull a mass effect type dialogue romance, give it room to pull the romance to feel more natural like when romancing liara or romancing any one in dragon age fluting Blanter check kiss scene is more worth it at the end now
@@luka7263 or better example takes of arise shinnie and alphen liked each other from the start but they had this relationship where like hey I Just meet you so it awkward, I don’t know you that like so they was stand off ish till the more the play they are comfortable at a natural flow with other to flirt banter like it normal. Same with law and rinwell don’t know you it’s weird but after spending some quality time in game I feel comfortable to tease you and do xyz. Obviously the dlc didn’t have the run time to do all of that but if it did it feel way more natural and better flowing in my eyes
@@luka7263 But why didn't Aloy formed ANY feelings towards past companions? The developer give an excuse but for some reason this random girl was it? Really?
I don't have a problem with Aloy choosing a woman, but I do have a question about how it was done. Elizabeth's loneliness was due to her incredible intelligence and peaceful nature. Even Tilda felt this detachment, even though they were equals. With Aloy, this line of incomprehensibility by others was preserved and was in opposition to the same but cold-blooded Sylens, as the second owner of an extraordinary mind. And what is it? Some kind of hunter who is constantly told how cool she is instead of showing it and hooking the player to the soul? Both parts have great fighters who are much better written. Seyka is boring and primitive, no match for Aloy, relationships out of nowhere. Very lazy script.
Agreed. I honestly thought Aloy had more chemistry with Morlund, the Oseram who built her diving mask, because their banter about gadgets and tinkering felt so natural (though not necessarily in a romantic way). But I felt that the writers included Seyka specifically to be Aloy's girlfriend rather than first focusing on Seyka the character and then asking, "How much sense does it make for Seyka to be with Aloy?" I'm glad they gave two dialogue options to back out of that relationship.
It's legit crazy, she spent like a majority of hfw rolling her eyes whenever he spoke lol. In a sisterly way for sure. Like annoyed with your sibling's shit. Deffo not romantic in the least.
Man.... I just hope that Guerilla doesn't feel this need to not include Sylens in the 3rd game, like as if it would be disrespectful to do so. I don' get that feeling at all. I mean I don't know him personally or anything, but I think there's a good chance he would want his legacy to live on. I just hope they find a way to keep his likeness in the game, & not have to sacrifice any bits of story they might have.
I feel like sylens is to important to cut from the game, they've set him up as one of few if any characters that can match or sometimes even one up aloy and has been integral to stopping all big bads so far and sylens choose to stay at the end of FW to stop nemesis
@@theflash8337 Ya, I fully agree. I just don't see how they can do a 3rd game without him without severely hurting the story. I truly hope they can find a way to keep his likeness in the game, and hopefully they will let us know something on that subject before too long.
I feel like they're going to do it, as they've done it with Aloy, make a different actor play Sylens. It's going to be interesting, how they are going to recreate (or replace) his characteristic voice.
@@theflash8337 Aloy's looks are based on a Dutch actress, Hannah Hoekstra, but is played and voiced by Ashly Burch as we know. Soo, I could imagine them doing the same thing in Sylen's case. Continue giving him the looks of Lance, while someone else is going to play (and maybe voice) him in the third install.
We've all seen it coming a mile off, but I'd still appreciate it if you didn't put spoilers on the thumbnail. Some of us want to play too but can't do it TODAY, you know.
It's heartwarming looking at the width of Aloy's smile after the kiss. She looks like She has temporarily found a moment of Peach and warmth between a storm and the following One. 😄😄
Also I feel like this ending with aloy and seyka together will just lead to nemesis just doing a varl to seyka and aloy going all the last of us 2 on us
I will also save that comment, I found it interesting! Let's see in 3 or 4 years when the third game arrives, I'll come back to say "you got it wrong" or "you're right buddy!"
This. Shit. Never. Ends. It's so fucking sudden, this is one of the reasons why it doesn't feel genuine, same goes for lou, Ellie was never even hinted at being gay in the original release of the game but lo and behold, she's became gay, just like Aloy. Now I know that the ending is a choice, but best believe that it will be cannon considering how the overall media entertainment is forcing gay representation, it has to happen. Plus it's interracial, huge browny points.
I prefer how they did with Bill. No direct forced gay hint like this, but confirming through last Frank's message. And it was minor, didn't add anything special to the story. Just like it should be.
You're kind of right I guess, but I can say that it didn't come out of nowhere, even tho I only played the first game. She always rejected men and treated them like friends instead, not interested in relationship stuff at all, but she was softer to women and acted a little different when talking to them. Idk if it's that obvious tho, many of you seem to have missed those possible signs. But yeah they didn't know each other for long as it seems and so that's why it feels so forced too
The way she says "I don't know when I'm going to see you again." I really felt that. The ache within her that she meets someone who she's never felt this way about before. And they both know that they could very well never meet again. A beautiful ending to a great story.
Since this romance is optional I believe that she definitely bisexual and that it’s based on the players choice in the 3rd game, I’m just hoping that the not kiss ending is the canon one so we can build romance in the 3rd game
@@kamiljojus6799 I think it makes sense since she’s built some kind of relationship with Erend but then to throw that away for a brand new character makes no sense, we have just got to hope
@@julia4ever1 Yea me too i always saw her more with Varl thanks to the second game but then you know what happens to him but never Erend or any other guy in game hell i thought she was asexual honestly
Making Aloy have a love interest is stupid asf full stop. What makes her character so unique is her sole purpose to save humanity, whatever the cost, yet now all of a sudden she wants to get romantically involved, even when the stakes are even higher with Nemesis.
Yeah that was literally the entire point of the second installment. She can save the world and doesn't have to isolate herself from love like elisabet did. Did anyone in this thread actually play the game or are yall just whining cause lgbt bad?
@@jjay9909 it’s got nothing to do with being LGBT. Yes, Forbidden West was about her uniting with others, but at no point was it about having this kind of relationship. In fact, Aloy always distances herself from a romantic relationship because she was so focused on saving humanity, and even with the Nemesis, why would she immediately click with this nobody she finds in one DLC? Wouldn’t it make more sense for Aloy to avoid having distractions? This entire idea of Aloy just falling in love with this random is soooo forced, and it’s genuinely slightly ruined her character cause her being so independent and focused on task is what made her so special. She has basically no reason to stand up and save humanity, yet she does anyways. Aloy doesn’t need a reason like a girlfriend or boyfriend to fight for humanity, she already has her own personal drive to fight. That’s what makes her character so good, and heroic. Once again, I don’t care if she’s LGBT or not, I’m saying that Aloy does not need to have someone to fight for, cause she already fights for all of humanity. If they really want a strong independent female lead, why not make her actually independent.
@@FabianGonzalez-ic1yi The dlc? I really liked the first game but the second one was a chore to get through. I didn't even finish most of the non main stories. Why do you ask?
There should be the forth obvious option "I dont like girls...they way you do." Basically giving the player the option to completely shut off the lesbian route. You either give ALL options or none at all, like with the Last of Us Part 2. The 2 other options are basically "I want to but I cant right now!" This is just the illusion of choice given by Guerilla Games to the players. Either stick to your guns and make her a lesbian or give players the actual choice of this route. Dragon Age makes this much better, where you can choose your characters sexual preference freely or not engage in any romantic pursuit at all.
Nope, they HAVE to shove this down everyone's throats... I was just highly annoyed by it, but my daughters were like "WTF!!! Why???" They also pointed out that almost all the men are arrogant idiots, while all women in this gane are "SLAY BOSSGIRL..." Uhhhgggg...
@@Beavernator kotallo, a loyal and brave warrior ally. varl, helped to keep Aloy from self destruction and was literally fighting til the end. morlund, a kind, caring intelligent person who wants to honor his grandfather. Hekarro, brought an end to a centuries long clan battles in order to unite the tenakth. (Bonus characters) Erend, Rost, Avad, Uthid, Fashav, jetakka. All male characters and none of them could be described as "arrogant idiots" Arrogant idiot list Ceo.. that's it
Avad knows absolutely nothing about her. He just saw her as the savior which she hates all the titles in the first game. Also, she didn't like the statue that was built for her in the beginning of HFW. And Erend is her best friend, she's never shown any romantic feelings for him during both games...
@@koliriscaramujo yeah I don't get people saying how much better of a couple Aloy and Erend would've been like can't you read the obvious social clues or something haha
@@mariarzyt_3D yes I think the overarching theme of the people getting angry about this kiss is that they can't, in fact, read very obvious social cues. Especially in this thread.
I hope this is them teasing that romance options will be a thing in the 3rd game, I would be disappointed if a newly introduced expansion character was the only romance option Aloy ever got when there are several other established characters that people have wanted to romance for years. Guerrilla either has to stick with their reasoning that she has too much going on and isn't ready for a relationship, or open it up and give options.
I can second, third, and fourth this all day … I love the story and all the wonderful characters in this world, and I agree completely that it is prob best (from many fan’s perspectives at least) to either open up romance/relationship options for more of the established characters in the third game in addition to Sykka, or not have any until maybe Aloy’s mission is complete.
LGBT and gay things are every where even in video games that’s why this dlc of this game is banned in Saudi Arabia , the problem is most of video games has this stupid gay agenda 😢😢
Think about it. If Aloy didn't get a romantic partner in the second game, they knew what they were doing. Some random DLC girl? Really? I mean, I guess that's fine for those who wanted but man it's so odd in replacement.
@@pasta3376 In a society where people are sacrificed to the gods, there will be the gay community... sounds a bit crazy and as if it was forced on the player...
It’s largely because you can’t avoid it. You can’t have Aloy say she doesn’t have feelings for her. You can’t stop Aloy from flirting for crushing on her. You can’t stop Aloy from getting really nervous as she walks up to her. That’s probably why. It’s the same way you can’t avoid rejecting Avad.
Why does sexuality in any compacity have to be involved. There would be a backlash if Christian values were implemented as well as sexual preferences, each would cause a uproar. So why inflict that on the masses. Just because we all live in the same world doesn’t mean we have to accept each other’s standard of morality. Everyone has a right to do as they please, it’s just some of us have a moral compass that deserves respect. Just like if I was out in the street preaching you can accept was I’m saying as true, or give me the finger and curse me. But in the end we all have a right in what we buy. But that’s just my perspective.
@@dlux7357 what does that have to do with just leaving contested subjects out of the mainstream. I have to love people, I don’t have to accept everything they do or believe vis versa
Three choices. Guerrilla Games makes things by the book. They respect each choice and the player gets the same content ending. I cried when I saw Reddick for the last time at the end of the game. This dude did a great job with his character. Rest in peace, brother. His work and acting is outstanding. HE WILL be missed.
Not really choices; two answers are basically I like you but it’s too much/I’m not ready for this; They should have given an option like: “sorry, I… have not that kind of feelings…”
@Marx Honore thank you, they were friends. Same with Erend, and she can barely stand Avad cause he's so desperate to get into her pants and hasn't taken no for an answer over the span of two games. Don't get why any of these ships are popular.
As an asexual myself, I was really, really rooting for asexual Aloy. We get zero representation in games, and I'm torn on how to feel about this. I want to be happy for this representation, but I'm just scared it'll never be our turn. There are so many other stories to tell than just love stories, and I hope writers someday understand that.
This came out of way left field too. Aloy never really showed any romantic interest, and if she did it was very subtle with male characters. Now she's just in a lesbian interacial relationship.
@@Hero_Of_Old It's not just sony though, it's the entire industry. The only female straight lead that I can think of that was not from the 90s/00s is Evie frye from AC: Syndicate and that's it. weird af.
Hey, Sylens is who he is, and I'm sure he has his reasons as to why. If I were Aloy, I'd just accept it, accept his help & quit prying. I would have Sylens be no other way. Although I guess it would be cool to see him open up at some point, at least a little.
@Ben Smith Yes.... I am aware. A very sad & significant loss. Still, I am hopeful that they can find a way to keep his likeness in the 3rd game. It just won't be the same without him
I didn't preorder the DLC and I was cautious and feeling there is something wrong with last video ( behind the scene) there is AGENDA. Thanks developers for destroying the character and I will not buy it anymore.
Aloy opening up to love fits with what varl told aloy to do. To open up more to people. That she doesn't have to be a lone warrior forever. Forbidden west has been about aloy building her own support group. Her new found family.
This romance scene seemed forced and mediocre. I haven't played the expansion yet and I don't have any issue with the aspect of her sexual interests but this was straight up lazy writing. You have characters from 2 games now that have a deeper character development and more opportunity to intertwine romantically with Aloy and if they REALLY cared about giving her ANY inclining into giving her that type of connection they could've made better hints at it, but what do they go with? Some lazy, clearly agenda driven cop-out. Either keep her stoic as the lone protagonist that keeps the ones she cares about at arms length or do her justice by developing a meaningful and rich relationship. If you ask me it looks like someone with purple hair told producers that this is what people want and they caved to what they think the public cares about.
you're right... I prefer the lonely Aloy... too busy saving the world and not in a relationship... now it seems that video games have to do the LGBT homework... what a shit... anyway Aloy hasn't no sexual orientation from what I understand... we decide with the choice which orientation to give him... but in my opinion it's useless... it's just a forced LGBT homework... I prefer straight Aloy example for all women. ..
@@Gabriel89111 that would lead to perpetuating the nuclear family archetype which the alphabet people aren't into. I think the fact that they are pushing this is vapid and void of critical thinking and if you honestly ask me, on a societal and cultural level it does everyone a disservice.
Yes and I think that Aloy is bisexual (like Elisabet) not only lesbian because I think that in the next game there will be romance options with both men and women
No problem with homosexual relationships, but this is out of place imo. She didn't know her long at all and to be honnest there are a ton of other male and female characters that would have been allot more suitable for Aloy
I didn't want to see Alloy have a love interest. But damn, Seyka is a babe. Hope we see her again in Horizon 3. It feels cliché that two amazing female fighters can't be straight, but for some folks it's going to mean a lot that they aren't. After seeing how happy the "Yes, I do," ending made both of them, of course I'm going to choose it
They killed the franchise by making Aloy a lesbian. a character who was loved and appreciated by so many and now I can't even play as her without being disgusted. Call me homophobic or what ever but for me this is unnatural and disgusting. Everyone with common sense would agree and would understand it.
@@STUPIDOvizionExactly. They shot themselves in the foot with this decision. I just don't understand what exactly that brought them from a business perspective. This way they will only lose a lot of potential sales and money with the third game
@@doctor-malcolm I was afraid about this since zero dawn and now I'm thinking about it this game is repeating every thing the last of us did,it all began with a God damn dlc such a beautiful character has been lost to such a bullshit topic
I usually consider all the possible ramifications when making these choices. Not this time! I'd seen the way the two were bonding, forming their "hero/sidekick" (LOL) relationship and couldn't pick any faster. The biggest emotional hurdle for me during my playthrough were the scenes with Sylens. RIP Lance 🤘🧙♂️🤘 Rich the Ancient Metal Beast
People say this is woke? What? I’m not one for gay romance or anything, but this I thought was written well. I don’t see a gay relationship, I see a young woman trying to save the world like her predecessor, but learning from her mistakes. Giving in to the connection she has with people rather than keep them at arm’s length. Forbidden West taught her that saving the world isn’t worth much if you don’t connect with the people in it. I would never have bought Aloy doing this before that game, but after, yeah, and that’s a good character arc. Elizabet pushed everyone, including Tilda, away and we know how that turned out. Aloy embraces (to some degree) her feelings towards others and is bound to walk away a happier person because of it. She can save the world, she can enjoy it after she does, something Elisabet would have wanted for her child.
The direction is woke. Like alloy looked more androgynous from the first game, now she is getting a love interest for some reason, for some reason elisabeth was a lesbian and basically the last fight of the second game happened because an immortal lesbian was stuck on her ex after a thousand years. I saw this coming a mile away. And basically it is a bit woke because well it is meaningless.This story never put any value to romance to do it now.
@@johnwinchesterp2963 you didn’t read or hear a damn thing did you? You don’t really remember the plot of FW. You just say it’s meaningless because you want it to be. I already showed why it isn’t. You haven’t. You just say you don’t like it because woke. Not a good enough reason.
They told them all the time that Aloy was independent and was busy when Erend was used for example, but here in a dlc they already show it to you xd, if you can choose, you can also choose romances with men, right?
to the people that are complaining about aloy not being straight, y’all suck at reading people if you ever thought she was. aloy has never shown interest in men in previous games. secondly, to the people that think this was forced and rushed, you’ve never been in love lol. aloy being with seyka is perfect and completely in character
0:00 "I'm not ready for this" (here's how to ruin a masterpiece like Horizon in a banal LGBT propaganda) 8:04 "This is too much for me" better answer even if I would have added "no thanks I prefer men" 10:24 "Yes, I do" (here's how to ruin a masterpiece like Horizon in a banal LGBT propaganda)
"I'm not ready for this" is canon imo. Even in the Love ending, Aloy leaves which confirms that her fight against Nemesis is her priority and with how the short the expansion was, feels more like a fling than true love.
@@HolyBoredom It means: oh, gays are trendy right now right? Why don't we ruin our awesome female protagonist by making her a genetic dead end/ carpet muncher.
@@Antarctide they have great gameplay, an interesting story, and look really good. But I don’t need to subsidize a game developers politics. So I’m not only saving money on this dlc and any future sequels, but I’m also saving my time by skipping the upcoming (sure to be terrible) tv show as well.
you can opt out and say you arent ready for a relationship with the girl and never see her again actually its the same for all endings you never see the lady again at all
To think a woman as bad ass as Aloy would evveerrr go for a man let alone Erend??? 😂 I'm crying! She found someone just as spunky as her and who challenges her and she can relate to like no other.
Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores All Endings. Captured on PlayStation 5 @ 4K 60fps "Performance Mode"
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0:00 "I'm not ready for this"
5:31 Epilogue
8:04 "This is too much for me"
10:24 "Yes, I do"
I like the not ready for this ending which is the most in-line with her character. It really explains why Aloy all throughout both games kept on denying the advances from various characters of both genders. It highlights how she grew up alone with only Rost and is just starting to adapt to community...really2x good.
No other "The Last of us' girl" anymore.
Maybe it makes more sense but no I can't do that. I played it multiple times and I am not able to choose anything else than "I do". She is ready for this and she deserves something good 😢
I like to think this is more like solidifying her character arc in Forbidden West.
In the beginning of the game, they mention she snuck off by herself after the events of the previous games, not letting anyone else join her.
As the game progresses you’ll notice she starts to open up and see that she’s been letting people join her in her quest to make Gaia whole/defeat the Zeniths.
Burning Shores is the part where she finally allows herself to feel something towards someone by(after turning down Avad) and is shown throughout the whole DLC.
I had hoped for a lost legacy trip with the these two without any romance. It really feels very forced and rushed. Of course Aloy went through a massive character development- which I reaaaallly love. But she has always made it clear how important it is to her to complete the mission first and defeat NEMESIS before she can deal with it. So I find the storytelling unfortunate and contradictory. I would have very much wished that they slowly build up a friendship with Seyka during Burning Shores, and slowly integrate the theme of "love" and new feelings towards others in HORIZON 3, each of us has their own favorite NPC, that we want to see get romantically involved with Aloy. So I'm hoping Guerrilla will give us the power to decide who Aloy will bond with...we'll see..
this is just MY PERSONAL opinion ✨
Have a nice day everyone🧚🏻♂️
there isnt any romance we do not see her friend again after this
Its not contradictory. No matter what u choose aloy has to leave to finish her mission. Theres's no sign that they're gonna meet again.
I want our leading lady to be happy as much as the next fan because she has damn well earned it tenfold, but they should’ve held off until after her interrelational growth arc comes a little more full circle.
It felt like no matter what we picked it was about affirming Seyka’s feelings or trying to make her feel better more than Aloy’s. If she’s going to be with someone I’d rather it be a person who isn’t expecting anything from her like the rest of the world is right now.
Personally, I think that if Seyka was introduced in the first game, then their relationship would have been developed more.
Aloy's character is complex from the start of her journey, figuring out who she is, learning about the Old World, how she's a clone, fighting machines, tribes, and zeniths, and on top of saving the world only to learn that Nemesis is coming, it is too much for her.
@@kevinbriones1431 yeah I’m not keen on when writers use romance as sort of a “booster shot” to speed up character development. Seyka was great in helping Aloy consider the importance of fighting for community and belonging - a great callback to the final lesson Rost wanted her to embrace.
As you said her story already has some pretty complex factors and she has yet to reconcile her bitterness toward the Nora and fully grieving the loss of Varl and Rost. Which to me would’ve been the more ideal next step in her growth. I’m sure we’ll get something like that come next installment, but it was still good to see her finally acknowledge something for herself
We will miss you sylens 😢
RIP. I'm sad he didn't get to see (or maybe he did?) The final product of his work with Horizon. Amazing human being.
Edit: I also wonder if they'll scrap syelns in the next game or get him a new voice actor.
@@Axelrun1994 probably a new voice actor with the same sound if not close to it. Horizon 3 will take awhile if that's the case.
With help of AI, it could be probably generated. Rip
No
Or we could have Sylens character commit a heroic sacrifice at the beginning of the next game, remember Hephaestus is still in play and dislikes humanity for destroying his children, then there’s Nemesis, though it isn’t here yet, we’ve seen it affect things from a distance once, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that it could do so again.
The genius of the ending is that all 3 are perfectly feasible and understandable responses. I was quick to make decisions on what to do throughout the entire DLC, but that one choice took me much longer to make. I went for the 'letting Seyka in' option in the end, because love.
I was kinda lost when i selected that too. I was thinking she opened up just a little to errend first so it was easy to make him her possible love interest but i remembered elizabet was in loce with tilda so it all made sense after😂
i need marvin gaye song fitted into aloy kissing a woman scene. this is truly a recycled plot from legend of korra
I hit fuck naw so quick.
Why they put this unnatural embarrassment everywhere, i'll better put that option, no other character will be a girl from The Last of us.
@@notmomoayase and that was a terrible mistake
>Says she wants to be with Aloy
>Aloy feels the same way
>Immediately fucks off to be literally anywhere else
There are some religious people playing this game, you know.
@@Moetheboi2024 and Sony couldn't care less about them
@@novurdim no they do so they put two other options you doofus (and there are some religious developers too)
@@Moetheboi2024 so options are "yes" and "yes but not right now", there's literally no way they'll opt out of the homosexual route and this is not even a first or second time for Sony.
@@novurdimI mean sony allowed a trans kid and a couple of lgbt character in the last of us. I don’t think they care whatsoever about the religious wet wipes
So aloy has always been focused on whatever mission she's doing for the past two games and it feels weird to have her hook up with someone she just met in this dlc. Definitely wouldve prefered errend
I absolutely will choose no, king avad is still waiting😂
Aloy gotta line out the door with Errand, Avad, and Morland.
@@Devogor omg your so right and i hate that they put this everywhere like wtf stupid ending...
For 2 games they build this with Avad and Errend and then this... Like wtf... Why they have to ruin this to...
Leave the stupid agenda out of gaming!!!
@@1188dunemandon't forget Nil 😂
What coz he’s a dude?
Aloy has always shown more of an interest in the female characters anyway
1:00 - 8:00 erend: YES,YES,YES,YES,YES!!!
10:40 erend: NO,NO,NO,F0CK,SH4T,SH4T,SH4IT!!!
True lmfao
Was rooting for my boy to ride the aloyussy, rip the dream.
@@static2397aloyuss😮
I think Erend gave up on pursuing Aloy romantically a long time ago.
Which makes him wiser than Avad, on this point.
@ at this point* 💀🐍
Say whatever you want. You can't diss the performance and the animation.
I’m just glad they don’t force you to accept it. Guerrilla seems to want players to choose their own path for Aloy, let’s hope that we can get different options for her love interest
Hits har the religious population, mainly of the Middle East-originated religions, where that kind of stuff isn’t allowed.
Yet you can't exactly refuse so sorry, but Sony pretty much locks you on this path
Unless they do like they did with Nil.
You could choose to kill him in zero dawn, but Guerilla had him alive anyway in forbidden west.
Probably will do the same here too
There are many men and women. More choices are needed just like in Japanese romance ADV
@@novurdimthey literally have you two options to say no. What do you want her to do. Be disgusted and shame the other girl lol
It fits with the larger storyline that Aloy is starting to realize that honoring her genetic mother's legacy doesn't necessarily mean following the lonely path Elisabet chose for herself.
@Black King you right i m glad i could choose no
well this is kind of the opposite because Elisabet also had a girlfriend
@@ammoniumammonide yes but she stopped dating her to focus on her company
@@ammoniumammonide yeah the HFW came out in 2022
So it still the woke liberal path...
They put tilda and they didnt have to make her date elisabth...
But you know... Woke...
Its just doesnt add up that in a society where people are being sacrificed to the gods, there will be the gay community... sounds a bit crazy and as if it was forced on the player
@@איתישפירא-ג5ס You do realize gay people exist everywhere no matter where you live, what culture you’re from, the life society imposed on you? There is no “gay community”, it’s gay people existing. And it’s not woke, it’s real life. Sure the game gets more attention because of this decision which was likely intentional, but who cares? It’s good representation. They didn’t force you to do anything.
These facial animations are incredible. It brings Aloy to life in a way where I just love watching the little movements the most. I just really love her character 💜 I’m happy we get more development for her, no matter what the choice is.
same
Thats because they used motion capture for this.
Something I can see happening in the upcoming Horizon 3 is Aloy struggling to figure out if she can balance between saving the world from Nemesis and being with Seyka.
Considering Aloy can have a chat with Talanah in a Side Mission about love, I think Talanah will give Aloy some encouragement and tell her that while she has a lot going on, there’s no reason to deny her some happiness?
I think they gave a proper romance option here as to tease that it will be a thing in the 3rd third game. I don't want a character that you meet in the expansion to be romantically involved when you have characters from the previous 2 games. I want to properly build a romance in the third game or have a choice as to either like a man, woman or be single.
Why does the main character even have to get love interests. Feels like video games force it all the time nowdays
@@ZeroUs30 I agree 100% as first and second game didn't have any and I was absolutely fine but if there is going to be romance option then it should be open not forced.
@@ZeroUs30 I remember how Saints Row 4 parodied video game romance options.
Exactly!
Yeah, agree. Frankly, I was pleasantly surprised that Guerrilla made Aloy stay single for their games. (Though, in FW, we understand that she thought she *had* to be single because that's also what Elisabet did, thinking she had to be like her mother, but I still like that Aloy was one of the first female characters that didn't have a romance plot shoved into her tale). But, if they give us the option for a romance in the third game, I'd like to choose who I want to romance rather than be locked by storytelling. Or just opt to stay single and free! I hope they don't force one single option on us.
Something I like about this choice tree is that every option succeeds at demonstrating Aloy's growth over the course of the game. At the start when Avad basically does what Seyka is doing here, Aloy's fist option practically sees her berate him for thinking about this stuff while so much is at stake. And now with an even bigger threat looming, when faced with the same situation she handles it so much better, expressing in the most considerate way possible the same sentiment, but from the perspective of someone who now WANTS to connect with people but because the world's literally on a ticking timer to total extinction that she needs to be careful with how far she takes it. Even the romance option is like just taking a moment to experience that new thing for a bit while still doing the same thing of putting that on hold because priorities.
Also, it's honestly baffling to me how people get mad at the OPTION of doing this. Like Ricky Gervais said, it's like seeing an advert for guitar lessons, walking into the building and screaming at the teacher "I DON'T FCKING WANT GUITAR LESSONS!!"
Idk why but the ‘This is too much for me’ felt a little bit more amicable than ‘I’m not ready for this’. The latter one just hurts your heart for Seyka and also Aloy.
I think it’s because it seems a little more in line with Aloy’s character to let Seyka down gently and not think so much about herself
This was predictable, especially when it got banned in the "you know what" countries xd. Here I was rooting for Erend 😭
The Chad countries?
@@assassin3003 the countries where half men are repressed homosexuals but too proud to admit
Me too Erend is the best
Team Eren always
The smart answer seems to be the true ending
I’m glad they gave us a choice. My Aloy ain’t gay.
R.I.P. Lance Reddick. You will be missed.
So let me get this straight, they put in romance options (which pretty much is something that everyone's wanted since the first game) and the first character that option is with, is a character that you're only introduced to in this expansion?? OH COME ON!! hopefully they explore romance options fully in the next game (if there is one) My Boy Erand wants some love
Honestly, it didn't really make sense, as Aloy acted more like an asexual, I mean, there weren't any moments that I could remember where she flirted with any character, which made her stand out alot more ad it's very rare for there to be asexual representation especially for female characters in video games.
Looking here, I wish it was Talanah instead because she's been with Aloy way longer than this character who has only appeared in an expansion.
They have to push the agenda
Ezio didn't get paired up for good until literally the last game in his trilogy, so meh, whatever; ditto Clem in TWD.
IMO Erend always felt like the loud jock friend rather than an actual love interest. The closest Aloy ever had to "feelings" was Varl, and that's definitely off the table.
@Connor Lonergan oh sorry, then I mean aromatic
@@HowlingWolf518 True that Ezio only settled and had a family in the last game, but he had always showed romantic interests to other female characters from the very first game, literally at the beginning of the first game too before he was on the run. It’s different in Horizon because it always seemed like Aloy never showed any romantic interest, and every scene where someone tries to flirt with her it’s hella awkward so I personally assumed she’s asexual or aromantic.
I thought the developers said Aloy was too busy for a love interest? Guess she found a new way to keep herself “busy” as it were
That was before she realized that saving the world wasn’t really worth much if she didn’t connect with the people in it.
I mean she literally says they can’t be together because she’s too busy to deal with anything else
@@moonmoon2479 it’s about the friends we make along the way really
@@tiago_hb she’s too busy for a relationship, but not to busy to THINK about it tho! Lol
guess she found the time to be gay
Seyka's looks when she is rejected by Aloy are heartbreaking. I know how much it hurts to be rejected by someone you love.
Its better to be clear from start then facing consequences later
Anyone with a functioning brain knew Guerrilla Games was headed in this direction. If you’ve been paying attention to their studio over the last few years, you know they went progressive.
It’s a new world y’all, and they are gonna push this stuff on us whether we like it or not. A shame that Sony went woke.
Bro honestly it's just feels so out of place that they do this kind of stuff lol
Or pay attention to the first game maybe
🤮
Boycott Sony games, don't buy them.
@@FabianGonzalez-ic1yi Even in the first game, Aloy didn't seem like she was into girls or a romantic partner at all.
No hints, no context, no build up. Just lesbian
Thats how shitty writhing is those days i guest
No it was hinted, she's a clone of Elizabet and who a lesbian
Did you play the dlc? There’s a lot of hints and context.
Bro didn't play the talanah mission lmaoo so dense
@@zacatkinson3926 weird for them to imply being gay is genetic
I think people have the right to complain. They literally said Aloy was too busy to form a relationship, etc when she had plenty of options to do so in the past. And yet in this random dlc, that's where they did it and someone that she JUST met? I'd be piss too if I cared that much about romance. And it's not even about her being a lesbian, as she could of went with a girl before.
Lol that what I was saying like shorty I just meet you and we hitting first base I don’t care if we almost died saving the world it still awkward as hell least give till next game for that love to bloom
i think you misunderstood tbh. the scene didnt imply them to be "dating". they both acknowledge their feelings for eachother, but they both know that they have places to be, and they left it at that.
@@luka7263 oh no I get it,it’s not the norm but feelings like that do happen. Just realistic not that damn fast, why I joked said like that I would have been happy with the banter flirting they was doing and hinting at a relationship next game. Like if your going to pull a mass effect type dialogue romance, give it room to pull the romance to feel more natural like when romancing liara or romancing any one in dragon age fluting Blanter check kiss scene is more worth it at the end now
@@luka7263 or better example takes of arise shinnie and alphen liked each other from the start but they had this relationship where like hey I Just meet you so it awkward, I don’t know you that like so they was stand off ish till the more the play they are comfortable at a natural flow with other to flirt banter like it normal. Same with law and rinwell don’t know you it’s weird but after spending some quality time in game I feel comfortable to tease you and do xyz. Obviously the dlc didn’t have the run time to do all of that but if it did it feel way more natural and better flowing in my eyes
@@luka7263 But why didn't Aloy formed ANY feelings towards past companions? The developer give an excuse but for some reason this random girl was it? Really?
I don't have a problem with Aloy choosing a woman, but I do have a question about how it was done. Elizabeth's loneliness was due to her incredible intelligence and peaceful nature. Even Tilda felt this detachment, even though they were equals. With Aloy, this line of incomprehensibility by others was preserved and was in opposition to the same but cold-blooded Sylens, as the second owner of an extraordinary mind.
And what is it? Some kind of hunter who is constantly told how cool she is instead of showing it and hooking the player to the soul? Both parts have great fighters who are much better written. Seyka is boring and primitive, no match for Aloy, relationships out of nowhere. Very lazy script.
Yeah Seyka is like my least favorite ally,I mean Alva is a way better quen. I totally agree with you.
Agreed. I honestly thought Aloy had more chemistry with Morlund, the Oseram who built her diving mask, because their banter about gadgets and tinkering felt so natural (though not necessarily in a romantic way). But I felt that the writers included Seyka specifically to be Aloy's girlfriend rather than first focusing on Seyka the character and then asking, "How much sense does it make for Seyka to be with Aloy?"
I'm glad they gave two dialogue options to back out of that relationship.
Why they need to put this unnatural embarrassment everywhere, I'll better put that option, no other character will be a girl from The Last of us.
@@yuribaka4809 They are nothing more than an Embarrassment of nature.
I'm surprised how many people wanted Aloy to be with an alcoholic man-child out of everyone she's met 😅
King avad was perfect for her.
@@everettenjeze6276 eh she's not really the royalty type though. And I think he was projecting ersa onto aloy the whole time they met so.
I see erend more of a brother to aloy than a romance. In the first game I might have shipped them but not this one lol.
It's legit crazy, she spent like a majority of hfw rolling her eyes whenever he spoke lol. In a sisterly way for sure. Like annoyed with your sibling's shit. Deffo not romantic in the least.
Better than being a carpet muncher
I fucking called it when the trailers showed them riding the Waterwing together
Lmao me too
me too im ded,i saw it coming from so faar
Same
Man.... I just hope that Guerilla doesn't feel this need to not include Sylens in the 3rd game, like as if it would be disrespectful to do so. I don' get that feeling at all. I mean I don't know him personally or anything, but I think there's a good chance he would want his legacy to live on. I just hope they find a way to keep his likeness in the game, & not have to sacrifice any bits of story they might have.
I feel like sylens is to important to cut from the game, they've set him up as one of few if any characters that can match or sometimes even one up aloy and has been integral to stopping all big bads so far and sylens choose to stay at the end of FW to stop nemesis
@@theflash8337 Ya, I fully agree. I just don't see how they can do a 3rd game without him without severely hurting the story. I truly hope they can find a way to keep his likeness in the game, and hopefully they will let us know something on that subject before too long.
I feel like they're going to do it, as they've done it with Aloy, make a different actor play Sylens. It's going to be interesting, how they are going to recreate (or replace) his characteristic voice.
@@Jenn_Bran what do you mean as they've done it with Aloy?
@@theflash8337 Aloy's looks are based on a Dutch actress, Hannah Hoekstra, but is played and voiced by Ashly Burch as we know. Soo, I could imagine them doing the same thing in Sylen's case. Continue giving him the looks of Lance, while someone else is going to play (and maybe voice) him in the third install.
the micro expressions in this game esp the dlc now just blow me away
western gaming companies at its best lol
Honestly I usually do not care but it feels kinda forced ngl.
At least it an option
Remember Tomboys who were straight? They don't exist anymore apparently.
@@E2STOPTV it feelt super forced.
@@E2STOPTV how she was very frustrated when she's with talanah and she's a clone of Elisabet who's a lesbian
Can’t we have one PlayStation game that doesn’t simp for the alphabet community?! At least just one
@@Devogor Japanese thats why. I only play Japanese games now.
Like almost all of them? Yeah you can. Go pick any playstation game save for maybe 3 of them and they will all be straight or no romance.
We've all seen it coming a mile off, but I'd still appreciate it if you didn't put spoilers on the thumbnail. Some of us want to play too but can't do it TODAY, you know.
i love that all 3 endings can all be canon, and could probably seamlessly tie into H3.
Chestnuts roasting on an open fireeee
It's heartwarming looking at the width of Aloy's smile after the kiss. She looks like She has temporarily found a moment of Peach and warmth between a storm and the following One. 😄😄
Moment of peach
@@ea-ug9sc gosh! 😂😂I've Just realised my mistake! 😂😂My bad!!
Also I feel like this ending with aloy and seyka together will just lead to nemesis just doing a varl to seyka and aloy going all the last of us 2 on us
Somehow i will pin this comment for future sight. And hope your wrong.. but the way society is going you might be right.
I will also save that comment, I found it interesting!
Let's see in 3 or 4 years when the third game arrives, I'll come back to say "you got it wrong" or "you're right buddy!"
This. Shit. Never. Ends.
It's so fucking sudden, this is one of the reasons why it doesn't feel genuine, same goes for lou, Ellie was never even hinted at being gay in the original release of the game but lo and behold, she's became gay, just like Aloy.
Now I know that the ending is a choice, but best believe that it will be cannon considering how the overall media entertainment is forcing gay representation, it has to happen.
Plus it's interracial, huge browny points.
I prefer how they did with Bill. No direct forced gay hint like this, but confirming through last Frank's message.
And it was minor, didn't add anything special to the story.
Just like it should be.
You're kind of right I guess, but I can say that it didn't come out of nowhere, even tho I only played the first game. She always rejected men and treated them like friends instead, not interested in relationship stuff at all, but she was softer to women and acted a little different when talking to them. Idk if it's that obvious tho, many of you seem to have missed those possible signs. But yeah they didn't know each other for long as it seems and so that's why it feels so forced too
The fact they put four endings in here they knew exactly what they were doing.
Four?
@@blackspider7348 epilougue?
@@Owdriger2017 no thats after any of the choices with seyka. Its the one ending for the dlc. Seyka and aloys relationship has 3 endings
Yeah, honestly I saw this coming
Explains why they banned it in the Middle East
@@NcxX-c8f Maybe signs like this are a dead giveaway where the story is going.
@@NcxX-c8f good
We all knew it was going this way. Modern Western culture demands that every strong female protagonist is a lesbian.
@@NcxX-c8f oh shit that’s true
The way she says "I don't know when I'm going to see you again." I really felt that. The ache within her that she meets someone who she's never felt this way about before. And they both know that they could very well never meet again. A beautiful ending to a great story.
Since this romance is optional I believe that she definitely bisexual and that it’s based on the players choice in the 3rd game, I’m just hoping that the not kiss ending is the canon one so we can build romance in the 3rd game
Yeah, I hope that to. IT could be the best way if we could choose about her love interest 😔
@@kamiljojus6799 I think it makes sense since she’s built some kind of relationship with Erend but then to throw that away for a brand new character makes no sense, we have just got to hope
disgusting
@@doyouwantfrieswiththat7682 i always saw Aloy and Erend as brother ans sister. I used to ship them in the first game but that feeling changed
@@julia4ever1 Yea me too i always saw her more with Varl thanks to the second game but then you know what happens to him but never Erend or any other guy in game hell i thought she was asexual honestly
I find it funny that people have been playing as a girl for 2 games each with their own DLC, and yet lesbians are where they draw the line.
Making Aloy have a love interest is stupid asf full stop. What makes her character so unique is her sole purpose to save humanity, whatever the cost, yet now all of a sudden she wants to get romantically involved, even when the stakes are even higher with Nemesis.
Yeah that was literally the entire point of the second installment. She can save the world and doesn't have to isolate herself from love like elisabet did. Did anyone in this thread actually play the game or are yall just whining cause lgbt bad?
@@jjay9909 it’s got nothing to do with being LGBT. Yes, Forbidden West was about her uniting with others, but at no point was it about having this kind of relationship. In fact, Aloy always distances herself from a romantic relationship because she was so focused on saving humanity, and even with the Nemesis, why would she immediately click with this nobody she finds in one DLC? Wouldn’t it make more sense for Aloy to avoid having distractions? This entire idea of Aloy just falling in love with this random is soooo forced, and it’s genuinely slightly ruined her character cause her being so independent and focused on task is what made her so special. She has basically no reason to stand up and save humanity, yet she does anyways. Aloy doesn’t need a reason like a girlfriend or boyfriend to fight for humanity, she already has her own personal drive to fight. That’s what makes her character so good, and heroic. Once again, I don’t care if she’s LGBT or not, I’m saying that Aloy does not need to have someone to fight for, cause she already fights for all of humanity. If they really want a strong independent female lead, why not make her actually independent.
@@jjay9909 finaly that some one in the comments that is not soft
It’s the fact that Aloy is notorious for being closed off and meets this random chick after 3 days and is suddenly starting romance 😐
I can't say I am surprised. I just don't see any reason for alloy to be a lesbian or even have a romantic interest in this story.
You play it??
@@FabianGonzalez-ic1yi The dlc? I really liked the first game but the second one was a chore to get through. I didn't even finish most of the non main stories. Why do you ask?
Yes ,, sad thing we can play it in saudi arabia if they delete the kiss☠️
@@izumi_shinichi1239 sorry man
@@izumi_shinichi1239 good
I’m definitely choosing the “this is too much for me option”
There should be the forth obvious option "I dont like girls...they way you do." Basically giving the player the option to completely shut off the lesbian route. You either give ALL options or none at all, like with the Last of Us Part 2. The 2 other options are basically "I want to but I cant right now!" This is just the illusion of choice given by Guerilla Games to the players. Either stick to your guns and make her a lesbian or give players the actual choice of this route. Dragon Age makes this much better, where you can choose your characters sexual preference freely or not engage in any romantic pursuit at all.
Nope, they HAVE to shove this down everyone's throats... I was just highly annoyed by it, but my daughters were like "WTF!!! Why???" They also pointed out that almost all the men are arrogant idiots, while all women in this gane are "SLAY BOSSGIRL..." Uhhhgggg...
@@Beavernator kotallo, a loyal and brave warrior ally.
varl, helped to keep Aloy from self destruction and was literally fighting til the end.
morlund, a kind, caring intelligent person who wants to honor his grandfather.
Hekarro, brought an end to a centuries long clan battles in order to unite the tenakth.
(Bonus characters) Erend, Rost, Avad, Uthid, Fashav, jetakka.
All male characters and none of them could be described as "arrogant idiots"
Arrogant idiot list
Ceo.. that's it
@@MidwestTom Well, if you're lucky, maybe you can play as a guy next game so you can pick and option to make out with one of them... 👍
@@Beavernator I'd rather play as Aloy
I would rather Aloy be with Erend or Avad. They know her longer and better than Seyka
Avad knows absolutely nothing about her. He just saw her as the savior which she hates all the titles in the first game. Also, she didn't like the statue that was built for her in the beginning of HFW. And Erend is her best friend, she's never shown any romantic feelings for him during both games...
@@koliriscaramujo yeah I don't get people saying how much better of a couple Aloy and Erend would've been like can't you read the obvious social clues or something haha
@@mariarzyt_3D yes I think the overarching theme of the people getting angry about this kiss is that they can't, in fact, read very obvious social cues. Especially in this thread.
@@koliriscaramujo L take all around
@@SUP-h9d lmao, so mad that you can’t even come up with anything to say about it. No points, no evidence, just wishful thinking. L + cope I guess.
I hope this is them teasing that romance options will be a thing in the 3rd game, I would be disappointed if a newly introduced expansion character was the only romance option Aloy ever got when there are several other established characters that people have wanted to romance for years. Guerrilla either has to stick with their reasoning that she has too much going on and isn't ready for a relationship, or open it up and give options.
I can second, third, and fourth this all day … I love the story and all the wonderful characters in this world, and I agree completely that it is prob best (from many fan’s perspectives at least) to either open up romance/relationship options for more of the established characters in the third game in addition to Sykka, or not have any until maybe Aloy’s mission is complete.
LGBT and gay things are every where even in video games that’s why this dlc of this game is banned in Saudi Arabia , the problem is most of video games has this stupid gay agenda 😢😢
True
This is nuts, PlayStation and everyone going woke. Unbelievable! 🤢
Just play Japanese made games, they don't push this crap.
WTF now I know why we don't have the DLC in Saudi Arabia Store 😡
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
too gay lol
يا خسارة عن جد
Yes it’s very disgusting
now I hate this game, I hope it’ll never get to the store for it’s gross content 🤢🤢🤢🤢
@@Kadiiio stay mad lil bro lmao
Think about it. If Aloy didn't get a romantic partner in the second game, they knew what they were doing. Some random DLC girl? Really? I mean, I guess that's fine for those who wanted but man it's so odd in replacement.
Avad gets a heart and everyone else gets a heart but this gets "big" heart...
thank you sony, now i know the ending i'll never do
Agreed
for real... Sony has to ruin the good games like that, companies need to....
Fr this shit is ridiculous but I'm not surprised at all
@@Its_Me_Reza Never playing the game again because u get to kiss a woman? Be fr 💀
@@pasta3376 In a society where people are sacrificed to the gods, there will be the gay community... sounds a bit crazy and as if it was forced on the player...
the game gives you 3 options but in the end people only care about which one they can avoid.
It’s largely because you can’t avoid it. You can’t have Aloy say she doesn’t have feelings for her. You can’t stop Aloy from flirting for crushing on her. You can’t stop Aloy from getting really nervous as she walks up to her. That’s probably why. It’s the same way you can’t avoid rejecting Avad.
Why does sexuality in any compacity have to be involved. There would be a backlash if Christian values were implemented as well as sexual preferences, each would cause a uproar. So why inflict that on the masses. Just because we all live in the same world doesn’t mean we have to accept each other’s standard of morality. Everyone has a right to do as they please, it’s just some of us have a moral compass that deserves respect. Just like if I was out in the street preaching you can accept was I’m saying as true, or give me the finger and curse me. But in the end we all have a right in what we buy. But that’s just my perspective.
Of course no option to kiss a man.
@@dlux7357 what does that have to do with just leaving contested subjects out of the mainstream. I have to love people, I don’t have to accept everything they do or believe vis versa
Because there are no options
Three choices. Guerrilla Games makes things by the book. They respect each choice and the player gets the same content ending.
I cried when I saw Reddick for the last time at the end of the game. This dude did a great job with his character. Rest in peace, brother.
His work and acting is outstanding.
HE WILL be missed.
Not really choices; two answers are basically I like you but it’s too much/I’m not ready for this; They should have given an option like: “sorry, I… have not that kind of feelings…”
Honestly, it does feel a bit too sudden for Aloy to fall into a relationship for someone she probably only spent a couple hours with.
Hard Luck to Kotallo and Aloy shippers
Never got that ship, Kotallo and Aloy had no real deep connection.
@Marx Honore thank you, they were friends. Same with Erend, and she can barely stand Avad cause he's so desperate to get into her pants and hasn't taken no for an answer over the span of two games. Don't get why any of these ships are popular.
@@marxhonore9414 They have chemistry dude,, let us ship our ship in peace please
@@jjay9909 Avad? Desperate?😂
@Sup bruh he built a statue of her and keeps trying to get in her pants after she's said no multiple times. Yeah desperate lol.
Seyka was annoying as fuck at the beginning, she became alright when she actually aided you when fighting
You know what? Good for her. That’s character development. But why’d you put that in the thumbnail 😭😭
Because it's one of the endings...?
@@HBDiniz10 That thumbnail is a huge spoiler for anybody that hasn't played the game yet is what he meant
Character development? Two games with nothing about her sexual preferences, and now there's this?
@@Akira-bd6lx hello? Did you play the game? Tilda was in a relationship with elizabeth and aloy is a clone of hers... therefore she likes women
@@Akira-bd6lx there hasn't been time to explore it until now, and there was plenty build up to the moment during the dlc's story.
People are looking so deep into this. Remember Aloy is still young and that was probably her first kiss. Let the girl live ffs
As an asexual myself, I was really, really rooting for asexual Aloy. We get zero representation in games, and I'm torn on how to feel about this. I want to be happy for this representation, but I'm just scared it'll never be our turn.
There are so many other stories to tell than just love stories, and I hope writers someday understand that.
Agreed
Boohoo😢
What's an asexual, genuine question
I mean she could still be ace. Just not aro
@@haider6384 someone who rarely experiences sexual attraction.
Sony challenge try to make a straight female protagonist (impossible).
This came out of way left field too. Aloy never really showed any romantic interest, and if she did it was very subtle with male characters. Now she's just in a lesbian interacial relationship.
@@Hero_Of_Old you casually forgotten abt talanah
@@Hero_Of_Old It's not just sony though, it's the entire industry. The only female straight lead that I can think of that was not from the 90s/00s is Evie frye from AC: Syndicate and that's it. weird af.
Hey, Sylens is who he is, and I'm sure he has his reasons as to why. If I were Aloy, I'd just accept it, accept his help & quit prying. I would have Sylens be no other way. Although I guess it would be cool to see him open up at some point, at least a little.
@Ben Smith Yes.... I am aware. A very sad & significant loss. Still, I am hopeful that they can find a way to keep his likeness in the 3rd game. It just won't be the same without him
@@skins4thewin yeah it will be a real challenge to find someone with his voice it was unique rip
Love the waterwing photobomb at 12:05 (the birdy supports the romance option!)
AHAHAH
I didn't preorder the DLC and I was cautious and feeling there is something wrong with last video ( behind the scene) there is AGENDA.
Thanks developers for destroying the character and I will not buy it anymore.
Me either. I'm done.
It’s an option, you don’t have to lol. Is probably an opening for part 3
Their relationship felt a bit rushed, realistically I feel like Aloy would pick 'Im not ready for this' but I still picked 'yes, i do' in the end.
I was going to write this verbatim haha.
Aloy opening up to love fits with what varl told aloy to do. To open up more to people. That she doesn't have to be a lone warrior forever. Forbidden west has been about aloy building her own support group. Her new found family.
Oh I loved your point of view! It makes totally sense
Gotta sell it to a modern audience lmao
Like the modern Audience of Budlight?
My brother in christ the game was already sold before they added this. This is optional DLC.
Bruh there were plenty of hints in the game and previous, not their fault if you're to much of a reetard to understand lol
zoomers are gonna love this lol
You talking about the lesbian thing because I don’t see anyone transitioning?
This video popped up and spoiled it when I didn’t even search Horizon burning shores ending 😢
This romance scene seemed forced and mediocre. I haven't played the expansion yet and I don't have any issue with the aspect of her sexual interests but this was straight up lazy writing.
You have characters from 2 games now that have a deeper character development and more opportunity to intertwine romantically with Aloy and if they REALLY cared about giving her ANY inclining into giving her that type of connection they could've made better hints at it, but what do they go with? Some lazy, clearly agenda driven cop-out. Either keep her stoic as the lone protagonist that keeps the ones she cares about at arms length or do her justice by developing a meaningful and rich relationship.
If you ask me it looks like someone with purple hair told producers that this is what people want and they caved to what they think the public cares about.
you're right... I prefer the lonely Aloy... too busy saving the world and not in a relationship... now it seems that video games have to do the LGBT homework... what a shit... anyway Aloy hasn't no sexual orientation from what I understand... we decide with the choice which orientation to give him... but in my opinion it's useless... it's just a forced LGBT homework... I prefer straight Aloy example for all women. ..
@@Gabriel89111 that would lead to perpetuating the nuclear family archetype which the alphabet people aren't into. I think the fact that they are pushing this is vapid and void of critical thinking and if you honestly ask me, on a societal and cultural level it does everyone a disservice.
The fuck? Since when was Aloy gay bruh they stay infiltrating my favorite games and shows fr.
It’s Sony promoting woke content.
i'm happy and sad
Aloy having a romance moment for the 1st time.
idk what to think of right now.
is Talanoy still be a thing? will it be a real thing?
Pretty sure she’s pining after that guy. Can’t remember his name.
But her words ring true. “One day, you’ll understand.”
ok we are not using that as a ship name 😂
Talanah's straight, dude.
Yes and I think that Aloy is bisexual (like Elisabet) not only lesbian because I think that in the next game there will be romance options with both men and women
Like Assassin's Creed did
I CANT EVEN PLAY THIS YET. Spoiling it in the thumbnail? Bye
That’s your fault you know better
@@Andrew_2002 I should know better than to scroll through my subscription feed?
Can’t wait for Kratos to be gay in the next God of War
Me to bro he with mimir 😏
Yea, it's getting pretty old having this lifestyle push on us so hard
No Kratos, Freya probably, i dont know why can have a girls that like mens , in this game you can choose, why you cnat choose a men romance?
No problem with homosexual relationships, but this is out of place imo. She didn't know her long at all and to be honnest there are a ton of other male and female characters that would have been allot more suitable for Aloy
I didn't want to see Alloy have a love interest. But damn, Seyka is a babe. Hope we see her again in Horizon 3. It feels cliché that two amazing female fighters can't be straight, but for some folks it's going to mean a lot that they aren't. After seeing how happy the "Yes, I do," ending made both of them, of course I'm going to choose it
Did they seriously just make her gay to get the wokes off their back? She could have been just asexual. 🤨🤨
Facts lol
Who uses woke?
@@marvthemartian001 people that aren't woke.
So manbabies?
aloy caught the big gay
They killed the franchise by making Aloy a lesbian. a character who was loved and appreciated by so many and now I can't even play as her without being disgusted. Call me homophobic or what ever but for me this is unnatural and disgusting. Everyone with common sense would agree and would understand it.
lets hope there are a LOT of gay customers who will by the next installment, because the old fanbase is gone
@@STUPIDOvizionExactly. They shot themselves in the foot with this decision. I just don't understand what exactly that brought them from a business perspective. This way they will only lose a lot of potential sales and money with the third game
Thats literally being homophobic, it doesn't care who she likes for us to enjoy the gameplay
that's it guys,we lost Aloy to woke
I remember people complaining about the first Horizon game because just playing as a woman was too “woke.”
@@doctor-malcolm I was afraid about this since zero dawn and now I'm thinking about it this game is repeating every thing the last of us did,it all began with a God damn dlc
such a beautiful character has been lost to such a bullshit topic
Its optional. …. WTF is wrong with u Pole…. Just Like Ellie u overacting everything
I think we're losing much more than her to wokeness.
I usually consider all the possible ramifications when making these choices. Not this time! I'd seen the way the two were bonding, forming their "hero/sidekick" (LOL) relationship and couldn't pick any faster.
The biggest emotional hurdle for me during my playthrough were the scenes with Sylens.
RIP Lance
🤘🧙♂️🤘
Rich the Ancient Metal Beast
Hoy perdió el gaming 🚬
People say this is woke? What?
I’m not one for gay romance or anything, but this I thought was written well. I don’t see a gay relationship, I see a young woman trying to save the world like her predecessor, but learning from her mistakes. Giving in to the connection she has with people rather than keep them at arm’s length. Forbidden West taught her that saving the world isn’t worth much if you don’t connect with the people in it. I would never have bought Aloy doing this before that game, but after, yeah, and that’s a good character arc.
Elizabet pushed everyone, including Tilda, away and we know how that turned out.
Aloy embraces (to some degree) her feelings towards others and is bound to walk away a happier person because of it. She can save the world, she can enjoy it after she does, something Elisabet would have wanted for her child.
The direction is woke. Like alloy looked more androgynous from the first game, now she is getting a love interest for some reason, for some reason elisabeth was a lesbian and basically the last fight of the second game happened because an immortal lesbian was stuck on her ex after a thousand years. I saw this coming a mile away. And basically it is a bit woke because well it is meaningless.This story never put any value to romance to do it now.
woke slop
@@johnwinchesterp2963 you didn’t read or hear a damn thing did you? You don’t really remember the plot of FW. You just say it’s meaningless because you want it to be. I already showed why it isn’t. You haven’t. You just say you don’t like it because woke. Not a good enough reason.
@@CosmicVoid_119 you arent paying attention to the game itself, are you?
They told them all the time that Aloy was independent and was busy when Erend was used for example, but here in a dlc they already show it to you xd, if you can choose, you can also choose romances with men, right?
Aloy being Asexual or no love interest for me is better than just adding forced agenda. 🗑️ Same crap as TLOU2.
to the people that are complaining about aloy not being straight, y’all suck at reading people if you ever thought she was. aloy has never shown interest in men in previous games. secondly, to the people that think this was forced and rushed, you’ve never been in love lol. aloy being with seyka is perfect and completely in character
"Stunning and brave"
0:00 "I'm not ready for this"
(here's how to ruin a masterpiece like Horizon in a banal LGBT propaganda)
8:04 "This is too much for me"
better answer even if I would have added "no thanks I prefer men"
10:24 "Yes, I do"
(here's how to ruin a masterpiece like Horizon in a banal LGBT propaganda)
You prefer men? Then why the self-hatred bro
ofcourse ,, lets ruin the game and introduce something totally irrelevant to the table ..
i hope Lance wasnt alone when he died
He died sleeping a few hours after playing destiny 2
@@curie0039 just before the last mission of lightfall
I watched this while drinking my bud light!
So many cry babies is crying over Aloy Lmao and here's me who is impressed about Zo and Varl relationship.
Exactly. If aloy had kissed a man no one would care about that. The ''problem'' she kissed another woman.
Does this mean there's a possibility of romance interests for Aloy in a future game?
Can we also have a gender swap feature as part of the plot in the next game?🤡
@@wamteng3790 ...go get help
@@majopi2654 I don't think sarcasm is a mental illness.
@@wamteng3790 my boy gonna be mad when he discovers gay relationships existed more than 2000 years ago and so on
@@gesucristo2357 Wrong game, mate. This game takes place in the future not in the past.
"I'm not ready for this" is canon imo. Even in the Love ending, Aloy leaves which confirms that her fight against Nemesis is her priority and with how the short the expansion was, feels more like a fling than true love.
WOKENESS is ruining everything !!! DAMN IT!
What do you mean by woke? Sorry I don't know what it means.
You dont say
@@HolyBoredom woke = gay people existing i guess
Ah yes, because a character can only be one of two sexualities.
Straight or woke.
@@HolyBoredom It means: oh, gays are trendy right now right? Why don't we ruin our awesome female protagonist by making her a genetic dead end/ carpet muncher.
Everyone working in the f*cking guerilla games is gay. Come on!!!
Guess I can save my money.
Why would you spend money on this failed franchise to begin with, lmao
@@Antarctide they have great gameplay, an interesting story, and look really good. But I don’t need to subsidize a game developers politics. So I’m not only saving money on this dlc and any future sequels, but I’m also saving my time by skipping the upcoming (sure to be terrible) tv show as well.
Me to
@@Antarctide Zero Dawn is the only good entry in the franchise so far.
you can opt out and say you arent ready for a relationship with the girl and never see her again
actually its the same for all endings you never see the lady again at all
Turns out there's and extra little conversation with varl that I think would be different for each option
I still think that either Avad or Erend would be a better match for Aloy.
To think a woman as bad ass as Aloy would evveerrr go for a man let alone Erend??? 😂 I'm crying! She found someone just as spunky as her and who challenges her and she can relate to like no other.
@@asiastrahan Who also just came out of nowhere, as opposed to two other characters who've been with us since Zero Dawn.
@@asiastrahan so badass women can't love a man?? What a weird feminist mentality
@@asiastrahan go with your feminism elsewhere ☕
aloy made it clear she isnt interested in men
it’s amazing how they also animated aloys tongue when she licked her lips. it’s so subtle but it makes a big difference