Well it was not like we ever had any doubt that the government ruled over us. That is the very reason they exist and is why people put them in power. You have to have some group ruling or anarchy reigns supreme.
@@pamukpicker Which I do find to be completely insane. There should not be any topic that is not allowed to be questioned. Questioning is important. It can lead to new discoveries or uncover fraud or mistakes. Not claiming there is anything wrong with the holocaust stories - just that it should be anyone's right to question anything about anything.
This interview, no matter how entertaining, is exactly why we all benefit from Rogan’s platform. Regardless of how one feels about him or his leanings, he offers a massive stage for the free-est speech in mass media.
the government overreach, the mandates and the loss of our civil liberties during the pandemic has been one of the biggest issues that we've faced as a planet in my 43 years of life. having Joe go quiet on this because he was either bullied by the social media execs or because he didn't want it to impact his wealth is also very sad, and shows that we have very little platform to debate what we always new was BS! Joe - jump back on the pandemic exposure! don't sell out bro
He had Aaron Rodgers on who somewhat did just that. Exposed how the NFL (and likely all major sports) were just acting as a cog in the machine. What we need to understand in order to win this fight is that our best chance is to be slow and methodical. Take out all the bad actors while minimizing damage to ourselves. That means it's not going to be quick. It's not going to always seem like it's working. It will hurt but it will also ensure the best outcome. They built the movement on chaos and chaos will only help them. Be smart and be alert. Always question the narrative.
You learn it's just deplatforming so it's natural to think 'just get another platform', but when you find out it's the government that is behind the effort to silence you the importance changes by an order or magnitude.
If you cant control technology get rid of it. We know that they want to advance technology but the ramifications far out weigh. Their supposed example of how they benefit us example teen suicide .hackers stealing location information. On your family .to rob... They make money period like the cartels make money . Off the border ..so do banks .when ransom gets talked about the wire transfer from the bank take a cut. The banks benefits from kidnaps. Same as Facebook and .they don't care . When they started weaponizing. Social media . The authoritarian left moved in period .to approve of modern data slavery. Period. Social media got involved to shut down freedom fighters claiming they're all nazees. Christians Republicans. It's real life its not a podcast.
Alex your suit has actually helped many of us that may end up in a similar situation. A great expose about how government is overreaching in free speech venues
The likely outcome will be that Twitter (and similar) will just update their Terms of Service to be more favorable to themselves to just kick whoever they want off for any reason. He mentioned that the main reason he even had a case was because Twitter foolishly added in a “Covid” policy that boxed them in.
Corrupted Dems Party is so powerful that they are able to get FBI, NSA ,etc. to go after the conservatives. If they willing and able to go after Trump, you and me are nothing. Scary!
Ong the media platforms are now literally acting as Jude,jury and executioner in some ways. As their making decisions in the public as banning and censorship. But then say they aren’t a public entity.
I feel this is something liberals and conservatives can both agree on. The problem is Leftists have taken over. Something Liberals and Conservatives are both beginning to get together to despise.
Man it is really wild how all these 'Conspiracy theories' just turn out to be what is actually happening. If you said these SM companies would collaborate with the Feds in 2016 you'd be called crazy
@@aconceitedbeast731 If you cant control technology get rid of it. We know that they want to advance technology but the ramifications far out weigh. Their supposed example of how they benefit us example teen suicide .hackers stealing location information. On your family .to rob... They make money period like the cartels make money . Off the border ..so do banks .when ransom gets talked about the wire transfer from the bank take a cut. The banks benefits from kidnaps. Same as Facebook and .they don't care . When they started weaponizing. Social media . The authoritarian left moved in period .to approve of modern data slavery. Period. Social media got involved to shut down freedom fighters claiming they're all nazees. Christians Republicans. It's real life its not a podcast.
We are in spooky times. It sucks to know that nothing will come of any of this. Our institutions are so corrupt that there is literally zero chance of anyone being held accountable. We have more than half the country cheering on the death of the 1st amendment
@@hahablahblahblah6774 this story and the Zuckerberg story are literally examples of the GOVERNMENT demanding private companies censor people. Are you so dense that you don’t see a problem with that? We are talking about the literal definition of fascism
This guy has been through hell and back. Been following this man’s work for years, and he’s a true patriot of our time. Anyone who can fight the cog and win, or even lose for that matter, gains my respect.
It's baffling to me how important Twitter & Facebook are to people... I've gone my entire life without any of thar bullshit... I've never heard anyone tell me how happy social media makes them, in fact I hear more complaints than anything else
Putin posted on Facebook hunting pics ,the whole anti trophy hunting crowd attacked him and he quickly changed his song to conservation, it can be a very powerful platform if used right...
@@mirandeemassoo1877 youtube is not social media...it's a TV without as many annoying commercials..plus many many hours of informative subjects and how to do things....plus I know nobody on here that i communicate with...so your statement has some errors
@@mirandeemassoo1877 is RUclips social media? I don't remember signing off on an agreement to let RUclips have access to everything I've ever done on line like Twitter and Facebook
Well he is speaking nonsense. Vaccines lower the chance of infection and transmission. So there is no doubt he was an is spreading misinformation. But he should not have been banned.
Alex does such a great job of explaining the timeline, events, and context. You couldn't ask for a better person for this to happen to. Such a crazy situation, multiple precedents being abused, broken and set all at once. Really hope these cases continue to come forward.
@@newenglandpats1031 It’s not black and white though man. Ask yourself why the companies only sway politically in one direction (no matter which current party is in government control). It’s a good way for a company/CEO to pass blame onto someone else (government) so that they seem as if they aren’t playing the political games themselves. When they clearly are, or we would be seeing just as many left-wing types being de-platformed….which we aren’t. Joe didn’t do the best job pressing Zuckerberg imo. If Joe had done this interview 5yrs ago…..He would’ve pressed a lot more. But let’s be real, Zuckerberg wouldn’t have done this interview 5 years ago…..because he knows Joe would’ve done that😂
They’re just blaming the FBI to guide they’re liberal biased and Agenda. If that were true, explain to me why Antifa and Al-queda are still on Twitter.
Companies are only allowed to operate with permission from other country's government. If the government tells them to take down a post and they don't, the website gets banned in the country. I hate violations of free speech but big companies have to tow a line with a lot of people.
Their property does not belong to you... you are not entitled to use it for your speech... it is a privlage. You can use your own service... you can print flyers... you can go to any public property or your own property... and speak freely. If I invite you on to my property... and I have a rule against speaking about a certain topic... you can still speak about that topic... but I can uninvite you off of my property. I can deny you a use of my technology and servers... you can still speak... just not on my platform.
@@Chipwhitley274 Hey Chip, I'm giving you permission to speak about that specific thing in my home. **days later** The wizard told me you can't speak about that anymore, so you're exiled now. Have a nice day. You don't understand 230 abuse.
The problem with going anywhere else for your video entertainment is that YT have their video playing code dialed in. Anywhere else and it takes millions of years to load.
And you Tate's going through the same thing when he started talking about covid is when they first started watching his ass too I saw him on Tucker Carlson today ever since he talked about what they don't like they were on him like a flying s*** and since he's been pretty much the most viral person on the planet over the last 2 months they definitely didn't want him spreading what his beliefs are to anyone else because God forbid somebody think for themself nowadays
Man I likely had a case against facebook for the same thing, the sincher was the 28 day warning to anyone who attempted to like my business page stating 'this page shares information against our community standards', while my account was deleted. I never once shared anything covid related to my business page, only my personal profile, but due to the business profile being created through my personal, they attached the warning.
Not even so relevant about the social media companies but more enlightening to the level of corruption within the government which undermines our democracy. I feel like this is the bigger of the two evils.
I love Russel for speaking out and letting others speak out about important topics, exposing the ruling class, making people aware of their own autonomy, etc. He's a good guy for that.
Brand?! The degenerate millionaire "talking to the people". Have you ever been rich, do you know how common attitudes like Brands are with the younger millionaires?
@breadstickzzzzzzz enlighten us on actual facts about whats wrong with Russel? He isn't my go to guy either but the man talks about literally everything that is going on behind our backs right now. Gotta give credit where credit is due. The man obviously wants to get information out there that they constantly cover up, and just about everything he covers is what they are certainly trying to cover up.
Include Kim Iverson as well. These are true vocal leaders. It's crystal clear at this point and has been since day 1. Idiocracy meets Demolition Man. "It's the end of the world as we know it." REM
Yea. The day they sent us home from work for 2 weeks to flatten the curve I said "they're going to make some shot and try to force us all to take it". All my coworkers then were "I'm not going to", etc tough talking. Then when it became inconvenient at all, 80% of them went and got it. I knew the masks, lockdowns, etc were all BS, but getting Alex's book in 2020 was awesome to have it all concise with citations, though it didn't really make a difference to people who had already drank to koolaid.
People like this who have the guts to stand up for what they know is true and can prove it, and to go against the social media propaganda machine are the real modern day heroes. Alex Berenson is one of the few people who spear-headed this whole anti-covid-mandate movement and deserves a ton of respect.
Except when they sell out and settle for money, instead of taking it to the conclusion in order to set legal precedent which would help everyone not just them.....
I had a client have a run in with twitter and I’m not going to go into details but bottom line, I am absolutely terrified of these big media companies. They are never held responsible, (I am not political at all) but, they very clearly ban republicans more often and for lesser offensive and ignore major offenses for those on the far left, and the impact these companies have is mind boggling. Let it be known I am not saying what these companies are doing is illegal because as it sits now it is entirely legal. What I am saying is that is exactly the problem. I’m all for businesses doing what businesses do but the impact these companies have is absolutely unreal. The great divide in our country is vastly because of the impact these social platforms have. I mean good hell as a crystallizing example, after the death of Mr. Floyd people on the left were burning down cities, killing people, robbing businesses, etc. and CNN reporting it said “mostly peaceful protests” then jump to January 6 with the storming of the capital CNN reported that as “terroristic behavior”. The state of our media is scary man…
@@bbrucet3 I would love to answer this for you and I think I understand what you’re asking but I’m slightly confused, and I don’t want to spread misinformation by attempting to answer a question I don’t fully understand. Can you elaborate a bit more?
Welcome to the Real America Any corporate entity that is protected by government for one reason or another is capable of doing anything they want usually. Every industry from the pharmaceutical to the media industrial complex have these protections. It is not social media you should be afraid of it is your government. They are the ones creating this situation that you don't like
@@bbrucet3 they literally murdered multiple innocent people and attempted to murder many others. Pretty sure on Jan 6th only a few windows were broken. BLM did millions if not more in damage
@@bbrucet3 Nobody tried to hang anybody lol. People seem to forget 2016. When the Democrats teamed up with the FBI, media, CIA and foreign spies to take down a democratically elected President..using “Russian Collusion” as a pretext lol. BLM as far as I know, only target cops..killing a lot of them. A BLM activist tried to assassinate a southern mayor. They also, along with Antifa, “stormed” the Oklahoma state capital. Trust me, you guys have no moral high ground.
Now have Barnes on to talk about how berenson lied to everyone who crowd funded his trial by saying he would under no circumstances settle, but still settled out of court. Making his case useless for anyone else as its not case law by any standard when you settle quietly out of court.
@@litedawg the 1.5k people who donated an accumulated $124,000 say otherwise you fool. There are literally people in this comment section who thanked him for doing this because they are under the impression his settlement will have an impact on future suits. Since he settled out of court it has 0 bearing over future cases. Maybe research the potential fraud before speaking.
hmm, just imagine if we ALL delete these applications and spend more time face to face bitching, whining, moaning and groaning then getting a cold beer together afterwards. . .#thegoodoledays
So just searched this episode up on Spotify. If u search it, it doesn’t show up at all however if you find 1864 it will. This episode has been shadow banned
I was shocked to hear Zuckerberg admit that people that aren't citizens of a country shouldn't be allowed to post about elections they aren't to be a part of. Conservatives been saying that forever
It is ridiculous, why can't somebody in another country have an opinion? The US has puppet governments set up all over the world and it is somehow an issue if somebody voices an opinion.
Yes, censorship causes blindness ... Mark wants a database of all people's identities, opinions, interests and communications ever, so he can sell your fate & future to any government (democratic or not) and corporate criminal that is willing to pay for it ...
Loved that he referred to the Indian protest. Indian Farmers protested for over a year being hands down the larger and longest protest ever. The protest was mainly spearheaded by the Sikhs who organized the protest. But thanks to the Indian government and companies like Facebook everything was downplayed and social media posts and videos were being deleted and only the state media posts were being left untouched.
Literally had arguments with people who said Twitter was a private company and can do what they want. It's horseshit and we all know the government is controlling them to control the narrative.
@@ChristophyBrun it might be in your notifications. Sometimes whenever this happens to a reply to my comment, I can see the reply and click on it, but when I try to expand the comment section, it’s not there.
@@blaniac6591 You're right it is there. Here's what it says: Literally had arguments with people who said Twitter was a private company and can do what they want. It's horseshit and we all know the government is controlling them to control the narrative.
They either get to police it or they should be held accountable for what's on there. You don't get to have it both ways. If it's not incitement to violence let it ride.
More people need to sue these companies for bullying, harassing, and over freedom of speech laws. Were these companies born yesterday and just think that they are immune to freedom of speech laws?
Freedom of speech does not in any way whatsoever govern what private corporate entities are required to allow on their privately owned platforms. You don't know what Freedom Of Speech actually is.
@@MatsThyWit And that's the problem, a company like Twitter needs to be like a telephone company that doesn't govern what you say based off their own rules. There has to be checks and balances, especially when it comes to a platform that is strictly communication based. Right now Twitter would be a wet dream for someone like Hitler or Stalen. Information control is literally a military strategy and Twitter is clearly a tool for media/politicians so the circle is complete in that regard.
@@MatsThyWit However this time this guy had a case because the government pressured the private company to censor him. So "its a private company they can do what they want!"-no longer applies if they take orders from the government.
such an important conversation to be had thank you for giving these brilliant people a platform joe! you are doing great things for the better of humanity
Imagine being dumb enough to not understand the implications for freedom of speech or being ostracized for sharing medical information that turned out to be correct.
I don’t understand why Joe has such a hard on for Twitter. He’s such an insightful guy and there are about 50,000 things more interesting than Twitter to discuss
If you cant control technology get rid of it. We know that they want to advance technology but the ramifications far out weigh. Their supposed example of how they benefit us example teen suicide .hackers stealing location information. On your family .to rob... They make money period like the cartels make money . Off the border ..so do banks .when ransom gets talked about the wire transfer from the bank take a cut. The banks benefits from kidnaps. Same as Facebook and .they don't care . When they started weaponizing. Social media . The authoritarian left moved in period .to approve of modern data slavery. Period. Social media got involved to shut down freedom fighters claiming they're all nazees. Christians Republicans. It's real life its not a podcast.
Wow. I've been bringing up that California case law about how even a private business can be considered public if it's entire business model is to allow people to use it's space freely and openly, and thus they must allow all forms of protective speech to go on there. And these social media companies are definitely public spaces that allow anyone to freely join those spaces, and thus should have freedom of speech protection. I think I've heard maybe one other person bring this up. Because all of these companies are based in California, the must adhere to both California's constitution and their supreme courts ruling.
But they aren’t allowed to use it freely and openly. They have to abide by certain terms to use it, terms that can be changed at any time. Their terms specifically state you are not allowed to post anything you want to say.
@@JJpmfc Believe it or not, but those "Terms and Conditions" like the ones on Facebook which are extremely long and written in lawyer speak that most people can not understand. They are by no means as difficult to get around as an actual contracts. But even contracts can legally be broken for a number of reasons, from age, to unfair or illegal demands, especially obfuscated in the small print and written in such a way that it's virtually impossible for a normal person to make sense of it.
@@augustgreig9420 Except the part that he's trying to "get around" was a suspension or termination, which Twitter has locked up pretty tight based on the exact wording in the ToS. It states quite clearly they can suspend or terminate an account at any time and for any or no reason, which is about as bulletproof a statement as can be made. Any time, and for any or no reason at all. Meaning they can do whatever the actual fu@$ they want when it comes to suspension/termination of an account.
@@Astraeus.. Not true because they have to obey section 230 or they lose all legal protection. They aren't allowed to curate content be sure it violates the law..a ToS can't contain anything illegal, it won't hold up, and in some states just one illegal condition will get the entire thing throw out. They have no right to do this. The only issue is there hasn't been enough people sueing them, and it would probably be great if it went to the appeals court where the law could really be codefide into law, and precedent set. It's just no one has really fought them on that point. The government can't just come after them without a combining victim.
happened with Patreon too if I remember. they changed their terms and conditions right before blocking a channel creator from RUclips and they sued the Patreon on that.
Haha ya it’s so blatant the government/tech is banning dissent, like he said. I class social media as arms of the government Check out these robots above
I think it’s still a win. And I’m pretty sure he talked about all the things he saw in the discovery. I’m almost certain he had enough time to see the discovery before they settled outta court.
@@1Deep43VA it’s better than a loss but the simple fact they were willing to settle means they KNEW they were going to lose and were TERRIFIED of more discovery
Why bother with all the stress though, this guy has a life to live probably a wife and kids to take care of. Plus ever heard about this thing called classified information
@@jesseberdowski3148 No man that guy would have fought Twitter to the death and would have gotten the sickest discovery on a major corporation to date and would have tweeted that immediately dude for real no Kapp
Ask him about this... There was a conversation on a public thread about guys saying it was alright to make out with chickens. They were saying anybody who disagree was a beast-o-phobic. I came in and said, there no such thing as a beast-o-phobic. it's just a made-up name you use to vilify anybody who disagree with your pushing of this sick minded agenda. Next thing you know all the chicken lovers were attacking me. I said, I don't want to talk about this here because I know how cancel culture works so let's talk about this in my DM's This is my private chat where I thought I could speak freely. I told the chicken guy, just because you give something a fancy name don't make you automictically right. if what you are doing is wrong or perverted then any name you try to place on people who are against it is strictly fictitious. We went back and forth, and the guy left my DM's mad as can be. To me it was just another day in stupid town. Next thing I know my page is suspended for harassment...like wtf? The guy reported me, and Twitter took his side. Then you look at Twitter search engine and no matter what you type, guys kissing chickens will pop up at least 12 times and then you realize...this is an agenda that is being pushed by Twitter and that's why your page was suspended. This man you talked too had the right connections...what happens to the rest of us? ................GRIM
*“If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you are not allowed to criticize.”* ―Voltaire
Well it was not like we ever had any doubt that the government ruled over us. That is the very reason they exist and is why people put them in power. You have to have some group ruling or anarchy reigns supreme.
There is a law that forbids questioning holocaust and any details around it
Just saying, dont stone me to death or hang me on the cross
That statement is a hoax
@@pamukpicker Which I do find to be completely insane. There should not be any topic that is not allowed to be questioned.
Questioning is important. It can lead to new discoveries or uncover fraud or mistakes. Not claiming there is anything wrong with the holocaust stories - just that it should be anyone's right to question anything about anything.
It's. Joe Rogain
"where Twitter says they came under pressure from the federal government" to ban him. Let that sink in
Fascism much?
Yup. They are using 1984 like a strategy guide rather than a warning.
After hearing Zuckerberg yesterday this is not a shock at all
Especially after his story about Indian government, Facebook, and the Sikhs. Horrible corruption coming from the top down.
That’s called fascism and it’s a clear and obvious violation of 230
This interview, no matter how entertaining, is exactly why we all benefit from Rogan’s platform. Regardless of how one feels about him or his leanings, he offers a massive stage for the free-est speech in mass media.
And yet Rohan won’t allow Trump a voice on his platform, he’s worse than Twitter.
I agree 100%
I agree 1000% lol
10,000%
"His leanings"?
Getthafuckouttahere.
the government overreach, the mandates and the loss of our civil liberties during the pandemic has been one of the biggest issues that we've faced as a planet in my 43 years of life. having Joe go quiet on this because he was either bullied by the social media execs or because he didn't want it to impact his wealth is also very sad, and shows that we have very little platform to debate what we always new was BS! Joe - jump back on the pandemic exposure! don't sell out bro
He had Aaron Rodgers on who somewhat did just that. Exposed how the NFL (and likely all major sports) were just acting as a cog in the machine.
What we need to understand in order to win this fight is that our best chance is to be slow and methodical. Take out all the bad actors while minimizing damage to ourselves. That means it's not going to be quick. It's not going to always seem like it's working. It will hurt but it will also ensure the best outcome.
They built the movement on chaos and chaos will only help them. Be smart and be alert. Always question the narrative.
@York Hunt I know all about it, I follow Russell Brand
@York Hunt you are a crazy person
The next con is “climate emergency”…I hope Joe can keep exposing the propaganda
@@bigben57 a sane* person
Never used Twitter, Left FB years ago, stopped watching all news, Couldn't Be Happier.
Yeah but here you are. The problem is Social Media has become the main source of speech. Now it's being censored under pressure from the Government.
Amen 🙏🏽
I'm single too. Couldn't be happier. For now ........ hahaha. See how long that one lasts.
Same here 👍
@@Metso-ateco I dig your handle.
Social Media is like the Government in that the less you interact with them the happier you will be.
Have you seen Elon Musk meets Post Malone? 👽🚀
It's hilarious! 😁😂🤣
Nailed it
So true! I've been Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat free since May and I feel so much happier! 😁
Couldn't be more true
Best quote ever!
Alex took in money on grounds for transparency, he then settled and kept it private. Wtf chuck
Berenson is how journalists used to be-dogged truth seekers with steel-plated balls. He's the last of his kind. We should value this man.
You learn it's just deplatforming so it's natural to think 'just get another platform', but when you find out it's the government that is behind the effort to silence you the importance changes by an order or magnitude.
If you cant control technology get rid of it. We know that they want to advance technology but the ramifications far out weigh. Their supposed example of how they benefit us example teen suicide .hackers stealing location information. On your family .to rob... They make money period like the cartels make money . Off the border ..so do banks .when ransom gets talked about the wire transfer from the bank take a cut. The banks benefits from kidnaps. Same as Facebook and .they don't care . When they started weaponizing. Social media . The authoritarian left moved in period .to approve of modern data slavery. Period. Social media got involved to shut down freedom fighters claiming they're all nazees. Christians Republicans. It's real life its not a podcast.
Very, very true.
The FBI did this with Joe Bidens sons laptop and facebook also....
just get another government.
You are literally on another government platform right now.
Alex your suit has actually helped many of us that may end up in a similar situation. A great expose about how government is overreaching in free speech venues
The likely outcome will be that Twitter (and similar) will just update their Terms of Service to be more favorable to themselves to just kick whoever they want off for any reason. He mentioned that the main reason he even had a case was because Twitter foolishly added in a “Covid” policy that boxed them in.
@@ForemanMD that's why I hope Elon Musk prize Twitter. He'll straighten it out
This guys a complete gaywad for even using Twitter
His suit hasn't and won't help anyone because he settled out of court.
Corrupted Dems Party is so powerful that they are able to get FBI, NSA ,etc. to go after the conservatives. If they willing and able to go after Trump, you and me are nothing. Scary!
This is incredibly important. We need to spread this to the entire country. Companies must be put on notice.
Yeah but HOW are you going to spread it? Using social media? 👀👀👀
@@TheDweeb002 Everywhere and every way it can possibly be spread.
So many of us fact checked, warned, shadow banned & finally suspended off FB and Twitter. Just confirms everything we know to be true.
They don't care about nobodies spewing garbage... you probably got banned because you're an ass not because there's a conspiracy theory afoot.
Crazy, mind blowing stuff. If you don't realize the implications of this you're blinded by your politics.
Ong the media platforms are now literally acting as Jude,jury and executioner in some ways. As their making decisions in the public as banning and censorship. But then say they aren’t a public entity.
I really wanted to read the reply to your comment, but RUclips won't let me. 🙁
@@billywashere6965 ?
I feel this is something liberals and conservatives can both agree on. The problem is Leftists have taken over. Something Liberals and Conservatives are both beginning to get together to despise.
@@JohannGambolputty22 yeah this is America where no party takes over
Man it is really wild how all these 'Conspiracy theories' just turn out to be what is actually happening. If you said these SM companies would collaborate with the Feds in 2016 you'd be called crazy
As the joke goes, "Conspiracy theories are just spoiler alerts."
Which is funny because SM has been doing this kind of stuff long before 2016.
Ted Nugent - Cat Scratch Fever
A lot of us were called conspiracy theorists and crazy just one year ago.
@@daveweisbrich1769 being right never hurt this bad...
After everything that happened to him, you think he would understand AJ's position.
People should be taking them to court like all the time !
You can be sure that Twitter and friends will be working hard to close that angle down now.
ruclips.net/video/aKHELjbBqYg/видео.html is final here
And that's when people should stop using their apps altogether
Have you seen Elon Musk meets Post Malone? 👽🚀
It's hilarious! 😁
New Free Speech regulations are needed, it would only be good. Putting companies in legally fair places!
It would be good! 👍
@@aconceitedbeast731 If you cant control technology get rid of it. We know that they want to advance technology but the ramifications far out weigh. Their supposed example of how they benefit us example teen suicide .hackers stealing location information. On your family .to rob... They make money period like the cartels make money . Off the border ..so do banks .when ransom gets talked about the wire transfer from the bank take a cut. The banks benefits from kidnaps. Same as Facebook and .they don't care . When they started weaponizing. Social media . The authoritarian left moved in period .to approve of modern data slavery. Period. Social media got involved to shut down freedom fighters claiming they're all nazees. Christians Republicans. It's real life its not a podcast.
We are in spooky times. It sucks to know that nothing will come of any of this. Our institutions are so corrupt that there is literally zero chance of anyone being held accountable. We have more than half the country cheering on the death of the 1st amendment
Have you seen Elon Musk meets Post Malone? 👽
It's hilarious! 😁😂
@@hahablahblahblah6774 this story and the Zuckerberg story are literally examples of the GOVERNMENT demanding private companies censor people. Are you so dense that you don’t see a problem with that? We are talking about the literal definition of fascism
@@hahablahblahblah6774 Haha blah blah blah
@@hahablahblahblah6774 Swing and a miss.
New Free Speech regulations are needed, it would only be good. Putting companies in legally fair places!
It would be good! 👍
This guy has been through hell and back. Been following this man’s work for years, and he’s a true patriot of our time. Anyone who can fight the cog and win, or even lose for that matter, gains my respect.
I was able to meet Alex in person at a book signing. Very genuine guy.
It's baffling to me how important Twitter & Facebook are to people... I've gone my entire life without any of thar bullshit... I've never heard anyone tell me how happy social media makes them, in fact I hear more complaints than anything else
And yet here you are on social media😂
Putin posted on Facebook hunting pics ,the whole anti trophy hunting crowd attacked him and he quickly changed his song to conservation, it can be a very powerful platform if used right...
@@pietskiet8763 oh wow! How powerful!!🙄
@@mirandeemassoo1877 youtube is not social media...it's a TV without as many annoying commercials..plus many many hours of informative subjects and how to do things....plus I know nobody on here that i communicate with...so your statement has some errors
@@mirandeemassoo1877 is RUclips social media? I don't remember signing off on an agreement to let RUclips have access to everything I've ever done on line like Twitter and Facebook
This guy was one of the first to call this whole thing for what it is and they labeled him a nut. The man was ahead of everyone else.
I was hesitant of him too. I used to support lockdowns. Now I regret that. I'll never trust any institution ever again.
Not everyone
Well he is speaking nonsense. Vaccines lower the chance of infection and transmission. So there is no doubt he was an is spreading misinformation. But he should not have been banned.
The government forces de-platforming? Im sure that would probably be Alex Jones.
@@VestigialHead you clearly didn't listen
Alex does such a great job of explaining the timeline, events, and context. You couldn't ask for a better person for this to happen to. Such a crazy situation, multiple precedents being abused, broken and set all at once. Really hope these cases continue to come forward.
Ok, good job with these clips now. Because I keep going to watch every episode on Spotify. These darn cliffhangers
Facebook CEO LITERALLY SAID THIS LAST EPISODE. The government tells these social media companies what they can and cannot do or have on their platform
Except Mark Zuckerberg is a snake, don’t be fooled.
True. Bots will disagree.
@@newenglandpats1031 It’s not black and white though man. Ask yourself why the companies only sway politically in one direction (no matter which current party is in government control). It’s a good way for a company/CEO to pass blame onto someone else (government) so that they seem as if they aren’t playing the political games themselves. When they clearly are, or we would be seeing just as many left-wing types being de-platformed….which we aren’t.
Joe didn’t do the best job pressing Zuckerberg imo. If Joe had done this interview 5yrs ago…..He would’ve pressed a lot more. But let’s be real, Zuckerberg wouldn’t have done this interview 5 years ago…..because he knows Joe would’ve done that😂
They’re just blaming the FBI to guide they’re liberal biased and Agenda. If that were true, explain to me why Antifa and Al-queda are still on Twitter.
1st amendment
Finally someone to clearly describe 230 and 230 abuse. These speech monopolies get away with too much.
Section 230 is one thing. Section 231 needs to be explained to the courts.
Companies are only allowed to operate with permission from other country's government. If the government tells them to take down a post and they don't, the website gets banned in the country. I hate violations of free speech but big companies have to tow a line with a lot of people.
Like most of these dumb political arguments I knew this two years ago and said the exact same things
Their property does not belong to you... you are not entitled to use it for your speech... it is a privlage. You can use your own service... you can print flyers... you can go to any public property or your own property... and speak freely.
If I invite you on to my property... and I have a rule against speaking about a certain topic... you can still speak about that topic... but I can uninvite you off of my property. I can deny you a use of my technology and servers... you can still speak... just not on my platform.
@@Chipwhitley274 Hey Chip, I'm giving you permission to speak about that specific thing in my home. **days later** The wizard told me you can't speak about that anymore, so you're exiled now. Have a nice day. You don't understand 230 abuse.
The way Joe and Alex find a way to always say "both sides" and "its Trumps fault he makes other people crazy" is a real work of art
"everything is about Trump"
Meds. NOW.
The fact that this dude agreed to not share any of this information as part of the deal is beyond cowardly.
This is an awesome interview! There were a lot of details I didn’t know. Thanks for having this guy on!
Imagine if every social network banned everyone and then we learned how to interact with people in real life again
I fear that it doesn't go well immediately
Best comment!!
You monster...
@Sh*t Hulk nobody asked for a clip (with an ip grabber on it prolly) Why are you posting one?
it'll all be bots swaying other bots' public opinion, then they'll give bots the right to vote LOL kidding
The problem with going anywhere else for your video entertainment is that YT have their video playing code dialed in. Anywhere else and it takes millions of years to load.
Alex, you gave anyone else in similar circumstances a blue print to work from. Thank you.
Just for a second imagine being in the position to be able to sue Twitter for being banned. Now thats a whole nother level.
And you Tate's going through the same thing when he started talking about covid is when they first started watching his ass too I saw him on Tucker Carlson today ever since he talked about what they don't like they were on him like a flying s*** and since he's been pretty much the most viral person on the planet over the last 2 months they definitely didn't want him spreading what his beliefs are to anyone else because God forbid somebody think for themself nowadays
Man I likely had a case against facebook for the same thing, the sincher was the 28 day warning to anyone who attempted to like my business page stating 'this page shares information against our community standards', while my account was deleted.
I never once shared anything covid related to my business page, only my personal profile, but due to the business profile being created through my personal, they attached the warning.
These things are just a tip of the ice berg for how deep the truth really goes. We’re not ready for all certain truths being held secret by the elites
From Mark Zuckerberg to Alex Berenson. Really breaking down what’s going with these social media companies.
Didn’t press Zuckerburg at all on any actual issues. Joe is a sell out.
From Meta and the FBI, to Alex publishing internal pressure on Twitter, Federal Government overreach and censorship really coming to light.
Not even so relevant about the social media companies but more enlightening to the level of corruption within the government which undermines our democracy. I feel like this is the bigger of the two evils.
Why is Twitter still a thing then?
I see what your getting at #OyVey
Alex, excellent legal explanation in easy to understand language. Brilliant.
Needs to be a class action lawsuit and mass reinstatement.
More like this Joe… it’s the best you can do for your country. Keep up the open dialog it’s you and russel brand these days.
I love Russel for speaking out and letting others speak out about important topics, exposing the ruling class, making people aware of their own autonomy, etc. He's a good guy for that.
@breadstickzzzzzzz Russel is brilliant
Brand?! The degenerate millionaire "talking to the people".
Have you ever been rich, do you know how common attitudes like Brands are with the younger millionaires?
@breadstickzzzzzzz enlighten us on actual facts about whats wrong with Russel? He isn't my go to guy either but the man talks about literally everything that is going on behind our backs right now. Gotta give credit where credit is due. The man obviously wants to get information out there that they constantly cover up, and just about everything he covers is what they are certainly trying to cover up.
Include Kim Iverson as well. These are true vocal leaders. It's crystal clear at this point and has been since day 1. Idiocracy meets Demolition Man.
"It's the end of the world as we know it." REM
It’s getting hard to believe that all this stuff was done for a good cause
"A good cause" if you still think it's good after all this. You're delusional
Getting??? It has been getting worse for decades. It is maddening & sickening. All about power and greed. Shameful bastards.
It was done for profit and control. Just like climate “emergency” is being done for the same reasons
getting?!!!!
When you knew this to be true from the beginning, you never get tired of this clip.
Yea. The day they sent us home from work for 2 weeks to flatten the curve I said "they're going to make some shot and try to force us all to take it". All my coworkers then were "I'm not going to", etc tough talking. Then when it became inconvenient at all, 80% of them went and got it.
I knew the masks, lockdowns, etc were all BS, but getting Alex's book in 2020 was awesome to have it all concise with citations, though it didn't really make a difference to people who had already drank to koolaid.
Not many people have the means to sue. And social media counts on that to propagate their lies…
People like this who have the guts to stand up for what they know is true and can prove it, and to go against the social media propaganda machine are the real modern day heroes. Alex Berenson is one of the few people who spear-headed this whole anti-covid-mandate movement and deserves a ton of respect.
Except when they sell out and settle for money, instead of taking it to the conclusion in order to set legal precedent which would help everyone not just them.....
@@Your_Face you do realize that the lawyers could bog him down for years right? How can one individual person battle Twitter for years?
@@litedawg seems like a dumb justification. If that is how our legal system works it is irreparably broken.
Anti-vaxers and flat-earthers have one major thing in common…Ignorance.
I'm guessing he's describing a civil case against Twitter. Not sure if violating the 1st is considered a criminal offense.
I had a client have a run in with twitter and I’m not going to go into details but bottom line, I am absolutely terrified of these big media companies. They are never held responsible, (I am not political at all) but, they very clearly ban republicans more often and for lesser offensive and ignore major offenses for those on the far left, and the impact these companies have is mind boggling.
Let it be known I am not saying what these companies are doing is illegal because as it sits now it is entirely legal. What I am saying is that is exactly the problem. I’m all for businesses doing what businesses do but the impact these companies have is absolutely unreal. The great divide in our country is vastly because of the impact these social platforms have.
I mean good hell as a crystallizing example, after the death of Mr. Floyd people on the left were burning down cities, killing people, robbing businesses, etc. and CNN reporting it said “mostly peaceful protests” then jump to January 6 with the storming of the capital CNN reported that as “terroristic behavior”.
The state of our media is scary man…
Just curious.... how many congressmen did BLM try to hang? How many elections did BLM try and overturn?
@@bbrucet3 I would love to answer this for you and I think I understand what you’re asking but I’m slightly confused, and I don’t want to spread misinformation by attempting to answer a question I don’t fully understand.
Can you elaborate a bit more?
Welcome to the Real America
Any corporate entity that is protected by government for one reason or another is capable of doing anything they want usually.
Every industry from the pharmaceutical to the media industrial complex have these protections. It is not social media you should be afraid of it is your government.
They are the ones creating this situation that you don't like
@@bbrucet3 they literally murdered multiple innocent people and attempted to murder many others. Pretty sure on Jan 6th only a few windows were broken. BLM did millions if not more in damage
@@bbrucet3 Nobody tried to hang anybody lol. People seem to forget 2016. When the Democrats teamed up with the FBI, media, CIA and foreign spies to take down a democratically elected President..using “Russian Collusion” as a pretext lol. BLM as far as I know, only target cops..killing a lot of them. A BLM activist tried to assassinate a southern mayor. They also, along with Antifa, “stormed” the Oklahoma state capital. Trust me, you guys have no moral high ground.
I don’t have Twitter, instagram or Facebook and have no desire to. Had them in my 20’s and came to hate social media happier without it.
"Yes, little ones. Feel the touch of Necrosis and rejoice! Nurgle loves you!"
Now have Barnes on to talk about how berenson lied to everyone who crowd funded his trial by saying he would under no circumstances settle, but still settled out of court. Making his case useless for anyone else as its not case law by any standard when you settle quietly out of court.
Nobody gives a crap about that
@@litedawg the 1.5k people who donated an accumulated $124,000 say otherwise you fool. There are literally people in this comment section who thanked him for doing this because they are under the impression his settlement will have an impact on future suits. Since he settled out of court it has 0 bearing over future cases. Maybe research the potential fraud before speaking.
@@litedawg I'd think the people that donated to his crowd funder would be giving a crap about that.
Damn dude- that totally sucks
@@kentonkruger8333 did you donate?
hmm, just imagine if we ALL delete these applications and spend more time face to face bitching, whining, moaning and groaning then getting a cold beer together afterwards. . .#thegoodoledays
Agree to some degree. Disagree because this exposes them globally. It's a process for sure, but we will win.
We're living in a time where social media has taken over and people are addicted to it. 20 years from now its gonna be even worse
@@tsquirrel8675 In 20 years, it will be inside the "metaverse," and there will be almost no escape.
People care too much about what everybody else thinks for that to come back
Im buying
This is why we need a law that keeps these companies from discrimination based on political beliefs
Can anyone find this full episode on Spotify?
So just searched this episode up on Spotify. If u search it, it doesn’t show up at all however if you find 1864 it will. This episode has been shadow banned
I wished people watched this discussion in its entirety on Spotify
There are so much more that everyone should know…
I was shocked to hear Zuckerberg admit that people that aren't citizens of a country shouldn't be allowed to post about elections they aren't to be a part of. Conservatives been saying that forever
That's because there's laws against it in other countries
It is ridiculous, why can't somebody in another country have an opinion? The US has puppet governments set up all over the world and it is somehow an issue if somebody voices an opinion.
They shouldn't be allowed to buy up our farmland either
How about dual citizens in Congress?
Yes, censorship causes blindness ... Mark wants a database of all people's identities, opinions, interests and communications ever, so he can sell your fate & future to any government (democratic or not) and corporate criminal that is willing to pay for it ...
Loved that he referred to the Indian protest.
Indian Farmers protested for over a year being hands down the larger and longest protest ever. The protest was mainly spearheaded by the Sikhs who organized the protest. But thanks to the Indian government and companies like Facebook everything was downplayed and social media posts and videos were being deleted and only the state media posts were being left untouched.
This is a great idea for an HBO short series
"It's a private company", the drones shouted. For years and years.
Literally had arguments with people who said Twitter was a private company and can do what they want. It's horseshit and we all know the government is controlling them to control the narrative.
Are you able to tell me what the unlisted reply says?
@@blaniac6591 No, sorry. Can't see it.
@@ChristophyBrun it might be in your notifications.
Sometimes whenever this happens to a reply to my comment, I can see the reply and click on it, but when I try to expand the comment section, it’s not there.
@@blaniac6591 You're right it is there.
Here's what it says:
Literally had arguments with people who said Twitter was a private company and can do what they want. It's horseshit and we all know the government is controlling them to control the narrative.
They either get to police it or they should be held accountable for what's on there. You don't get to have it both ways. If it's not incitement to violence let it ride.
If you need a definition that’s called corporate fascism.
the fact that there isn't more news organizations covering this is sickening
I love it when they talk about how weird Twitter is
Me, too.
More people need to sue these companies for bullying, harassing, and over freedom of speech laws. Were these companies born yesterday and just think that they are immune to freedom of speech laws?
Freedom of speech does not in any way whatsoever govern what private corporate entities are required to allow on their privately owned platforms. You don't know what Freedom Of Speech actually is.
It would seem that they are..
@@MatsThyWit And that's the problem, a company like Twitter needs to be like a telephone company that doesn't govern what you say based off their own rules. There has to be checks and balances, especially when it comes to a platform that is strictly communication based. Right now Twitter would be a wet dream for someone like Hitler or Stalen. Information control is literally a military strategy and Twitter is clearly a tool for media/politicians so the circle is complete in that regard.
@@MatsThyWit These platforms are acting at government behest. Illegal.
@@MatsThyWit However this time this guy had a case because the government pressured the private company to censor him. So "its a private company they can do what they want!"-no longer applies if they take orders from the government.
Joe, thanks for getting this out there.
Magically YT doesn’t have a warning on this video. 6 months ago, this would have been different. Welcome to 19,84.
Every one of these people should be prosecuted.
Who are you going to prosecute
@@arlen9190 in a perfect world, every government entity that interferes with federal elections.
Berenson was allowed back on Twitter because he tweets about how bad Alex Jones is and Jones deserves to be kicked off all social media
He’s allowed to have an opinion
But
Alex Jones should be allowed also
Berenson owes everyone who donated the money that he got to sue.
How is this Not EVERYWHERE?
such an important conversation to be had thank you for giving these brilliant people a platform joe! you are doing great things for the better of humanity
Joe really needs to stay away from COVID/vaccines. His forays into those topics did not do his reputation any favors.
@@cdavidlake2 We should be debating why Fauci was funding the production of viruses that could be used as bioweapons.
OMG did you see Elon Musk meets Post Malone video yet?! They are such a funny duo 😁🔥🔥
The interview in it's entirety on Spotify is great, as was this excerpt from it 😎
I didn't know Chris Delila was back on JRE.
"When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty" - Thomas Jefferson
Imagine caring enough about social media to sue to be reinstated
It's about more than that you simpleton.
Imagine being dumb enough to not understand the implications for freedom of speech or being ostracized for sharing medical information that turned out to be correct.
Ikr
"They came under pressure from the federal government to sue me"
Hold up. wait a minute. Something ain't right.
This guys is the definition of “I got time today”.
Berenson could have explained this in about 3 minutes, but he’s a writer…..
I think he explained it extremely well.
Have you seen Elon Musk meets Post Malone?! 😆 it's so damn funny!!
I appreciate you bringing this to attention. I think other youtuber's should do the same and post a video on RUclips changing their policy favorites.
I don’t understand why Joe has such a hard on for Twitter. He’s such an insightful guy and there are about 50,000 things more interesting than Twitter to discuss
Think of this:
“Social Media”
“Smart Phone”
Joe should totally agree with Twitter and the FEDS in this situation just like he did yesterday when he stroked off Zuckerberg for 3 hours straight.
😂
Seriously that podcast was super creepy and it wasn’t Zuckerberg who was making me uncomfortable. What a sellout.
This stuff is just SO fking HUGE and so many people just keep dismissing it.
Get used to it.
People cannot be convinced of something they are not willing to be convinced of.
twain said it best.... "its really easy to fool someone, but damn near impossible to convince them they have been fooled"
If you cant control technology get rid of it. We know that they want to advance technology but the ramifications far out weigh. Their supposed example of how they benefit us example teen suicide .hackers stealing location information. On your family .to rob... They make money period like the cartels make money . Off the border ..so do banks .when ransom gets talked about the wire transfer from the bank take a cut. The banks benefits from kidnaps. Same as Facebook and .they don't care . When they started weaponizing. Social media . The authoritarian left moved in period .to approve of modern data slavery. Period. Social media got involved to shut down freedom fighters claiming they're all nazees. Christians Republicans. It's real life its not a podcast.
Vote trump.
@@lancyfrongetta2663 Trump.
I'm just glad that Berenson wore his best shirt to the show.
Exceptional guest!
Thank you, Joe!
Wow. I've been bringing up that California case law about how even a private business can be considered public if it's entire business model is to allow people to use it's space freely and openly, and thus they must allow all forms of protective speech to go on there. And these social media companies are definitely public spaces that allow anyone to freely join those spaces, and thus should have freedom of speech protection. I think I've heard maybe one other person bring this up. Because all of these companies are based in California, the must adhere to both California's constitution and their supreme courts ruling.
But they aren’t allowed to use it freely and openly. They have to abide by certain terms to use it, terms that can be changed at any time. Their terms specifically state you are not allowed to post anything you want to say.
@@JJpmfc Believe it or not, but those "Terms and Conditions" like the ones on Facebook which are extremely long and written in lawyer speak that most people can not understand. They are by no means as difficult to get around as an actual contracts. But even contracts can legally be broken for a number of reasons, from age, to unfair or illegal demands, especially obfuscated in the small print and written in such a way that it's virtually impossible for a normal person to make sense of it.
@@augustgreig9420 Except the part that he's trying to "get around" was a suspension or termination, which Twitter has locked up pretty tight based on the exact wording in the ToS. It states quite clearly they can suspend or terminate an account at any time and for any or no reason, which is about as bulletproof a statement as can be made. Any time, and for any or no reason at all. Meaning they can do whatever the actual fu@$ they want when it comes to suspension/termination of an account.
@@Astraeus.. Not true because they have to obey section 230 or they lose all legal protection. They aren't allowed to curate content be sure it violates the law..a ToS can't contain anything illegal, it won't hold up, and in some states just one illegal condition will get the entire thing throw out. They have no right to do this. The only issue is there hasn't been enough people sueing them, and it would probably be great if it went to the appeals court where the law could really be codefide into law, and precedent set. It's just no one has really fought them on that point. The government can't just come after them without a combining victim.
I've noticed that the Constitution has been shredded to bits this past decade. Nobody cares.
Sad things is none of you will feel stupid when the day comes with the phrase,"hey, remember twitter!?".
Whoa! Did everyone else just hear what I think I heard?
I thought terms and conditions weren't legally binding since you can't prove who actually checked the box unlike a signature
I grew up my whole life knowing not to trust anyone. Especially government. Let alone some post on a social site.
He should be suing the federal government
He is
No shirt, no shoes, no service
happened with Patreon too if I remember. they changed their terms and conditions right before blocking a channel creator from RUclips and they sued the Patreon on that.
Isn't it so ironic that every single thing Alex said in that banned Tweet turned out to be 100% factual? 😉🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Look up Elon Musk meets Post Malone
TRUST ME
😂
New Free Speech regulations are needed, it would only be good. Putting companies in legally fair places!
It would be good! 👍
Haha ya it’s so blatant the government/tech is banning dissent, like he said. I class social media as arms of the government
Check out these robots above
It dint turn out to be 100% factual though. Thts the problem with him. He did not understand it, and decided to spread his bullshit and misinformation
Do you believe the CDC, the WHO, John Hopkins, or Mayo Clinic? Or do you prefer to get all your info from randos on social media?
By settling berenson dropped the ball. He could have gotten discovery if he went forward and to trial. They musta offered him a lot of money
I think it’s still a win. And I’m pretty sure he talked about all the things he saw in the discovery. I’m almost certain he had enough time to see the discovery before they settled outta court.
@@1Deep43VA it’s better than a loss but the simple fact they were willing to settle means they KNEW they were going to lose and were TERRIFIED of more discovery
Why bother with all the stress though, this guy has a life to live probably a wife and kids to take care of. Plus ever heard about this thing called classified information
@@jesseberdowski3148 No man that guy would have fought Twitter to the death and would have gotten the sickest discovery on a major corporation to date and would have tweeted that immediately dude for real no Kapp
@@radoslav2913 maybe he likes his family
God Bless you! Thank you for doing the right thing! We need more people like you! 👏👏👏
Discovery and depositions work because the truth is less costly than lies.
I love this podcast.
If i was going on Rogan, Id wear my good t-shirt
Yeah, Alex looks a bit ragged. Has he been out since COVID?
...but he settled. All that discovery is nothing. He had a chance to stick it to them and he flushed it down the drain to get his account back
i feel like 230 related cases should be overseen by a jury.
Free speech laws are completely off the table if what being said goes at all against the narrative.
Ask him about this... There was a conversation on a public thread about guys saying it was alright to make out with chickens. They were saying anybody who disagree was a beast-o-phobic.
I came in and said, there no such thing as a beast-o-phobic. it's just a made-up name you use to vilify anybody who disagree with your pushing of this sick minded agenda. Next thing you know all the chicken lovers were attacking me. I said, I don't want to talk about this here because I know how cancel culture works so let's talk about this in my DM's This is my private chat where I thought I could speak freely. I told the chicken guy, just because you give something a fancy name don't make you automictically right. if what you are doing is wrong or perverted then any name you try to place on people who are against it is strictly fictitious. We went back and forth, and the guy left my DM's mad as can be. To me it was just another day in stupid town. Next thing I know my page is suspended for harassment...like wtf? The guy reported me, and Twitter took his side.
Then you look at Twitter search engine and no matter what you type, guys kissing chickens will pop up at least 12 times and then you realize...this is an agenda that is being pushed by Twitter and that's why your page was suspended. This man you talked too had the right connections...what happens to the rest of us? ................GRIM
I found em!
ruclips.net/video/Mgnh1zg7ULI/видео.html
Based chickenphobe
That’s some weird shit
Like blue foot chickens?
Wtf kissing chickens?
I responded to that thread, saw this happen in real time since I’ve followed him since June 2020, it’s crazy
I’ve noticed more and more comment sections disappearing from news websites. Discourse is under attack and dissent gets flat out banned.
My God, thanks for sharing. People NEED to hear this!